May 30, 2010
— Open Blogger Hello fellow morans. I recently purchased an FN 57 pistol. It resides under my pillow patiently waiting for the coming 2nd American revolution or the possible zombie Apocalypse, which ever comes first. My question for the discussion thread is: What weapon do you carry or depend on to protect you and your loved ones from the shit that may soon befall us?
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My brain.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 30, 2010 03:17 PM (yPe7P)
Posted by: Gordon at May 30, 2010 03:17 PM (lf4PV)
Posted by: marinetbryant at May 30, 2010 03:18 PM (yUflv)
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at May 30, 2010 03:18 PM (erIg9)
Wife is a 380 fan, and an excellent shot. She now carries always.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 30, 2010 03:19 PM (zXoBa)
Posted by: Bill at May 30, 2010 03:20 PM (mIUnd)
Posted by: Firehand at May 30, 2010 03:20 PM (UQUiP)
This is the moron-sphere. Most of us aren't allowed near bangy-bangy guns or pokey-pokey sharp things.
Posted by: The Atom Bomb of Loving Kindness at May 30, 2010 03:21 PM (Pl6My)
Posted by: kidney, not a right wing extremist at May 30, 2010 03:21 PM (Abmb8)
Posted by: NC Ref at May 30, 2010 03:21 PM (xfZ7W)
Full size .45 HK USP in my Maxpedition bag and a Walther PPS in .40 on my person.
Posted by: Nunya at May 30, 2010 03:21 PM (b7TLI)
Posted by: Mark at May 30, 2010 03:21 PM (9ohA+)
Posted by: Marcotx at May 30, 2010 03:22 PM (JvSpO)
Posted by: NC Ref at May 30, 2010 03:22 PM (xfZ7W)
Posted by: Bugler at May 30, 2010 03:22 PM (VXBR1)
Posted by: Jollyroger at May 30, 2010 03:23 PM (or6Aq)
Posted by: Jollyroger at May 30, 2010 07:23 PM (or6Aq
WTF were you fishing for?
Posted by: robtr at May 30, 2010 03:24 PM (fwSHf)
Posted by: Putter at May 30, 2010 03:25 PM (PU/bC)
Posted by: Vic at May 30, 2010 03:27 PM (6taRI)
J-roger...I thought your ex-wife got them all in the divorce. Just kidding, that would be my excuse!
Posted by: hutch1200 at May 30, 2010 03:28 PM (vlAO9)
AR15 shooting 68gr BTHP-M rounds, and Sig P226 in .40 S&W - both with plenty of ammo.
Because one's rank in both Heaven and Hell is determined by a) the number of enemy you take with you, and b) the amount of lead you throw in their direction!
Posted by: Steamboat McGoo at May 30, 2010 03:28 PM (/cH23)
Posted by: Andi Sullivan at May 30, 2010 03:28 PM (MMC8r)
Salt, needle and thread.
Posted by: Y-not at May 30, 2010 03:29 PM (Kn9r7)
Posted by: Buford Gooch at May 30, 2010 03:31 PM (Oq4Vk)
Everyday I carry either my Titanium Taurus .357, 7 shot. Or my S&W .38, 5 shot. Both are revolvers.
It just depends on whether I'm going to a funeral or a family reunion.
Posted by: hutch1200 at May 30, 2010 03:31 PM (vlAO9)
Posted by: Primal Concrete Sledge at May 30, 2010 03:32 PM (qmOxq)
Posted by: nine coconuts at May 30, 2010 07:31 PM (DHNp4)
You know whats going to happen if someone finds out you shot them with that thing don't you?
Posted by: robtr at May 30, 2010 03:32 PM (fwSHf)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at May 30, 2010 03:33 PM (wd0Iq)
I never leave home without my 2 middle nuckles. They destroy windpipes.
Posted by: PugBoo at May 30, 2010 03:33 PM (h3ZPT)
Posted by: Bugler at May 30, 2010 03:34 PM (VXBR1)
Posted by: rawmuse at May 30, 2010 03:36 PM (pjZ+1)
When traveling into a questionable area, I always request Dick Cheney's WarCock for protection. It's better than a hand gun.
Posted by: Fish at May 30, 2010 03:37 PM (M5t+h)
Hello fellow morans. I recently purchased an FN 57 pistol. It resides under my pillow patiently waiting for the coming 2nd American revolution
That would get you banned over at Hot Air and Red State.
Posted by: Blazer at May 30, 2010 03:37 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: MrCaniac at May 30, 2010 03:37 PM (Vol3D)
House- Winchester Model 12 Police Special and FN-FAL Para
Posted by: Beto at May 30, 2010 03:38 PM (H+LJc)
Posted by: Blazer at May 30, 2010 07:37 PM (t72+4)
That would get you boned at CBS and the New York Times.
Posted by: Fish at May 30, 2010 03:38 PM (M5t+h)
For home defense (inside the home) the Mrs has a Stoeger 2000, 8 shot (tube extension about 2" past the barrel), .12, Tactical.
I have an 870 Remington pump. About 1/2" beyond minimum length.
Birdshot in all!
Posted by: hutch1200 at May 30, 2010 03:38 PM (vlAO9)
I've also got a Browning Buckmark .22, several .22 rifles, and an old bolt-action .410, but I don't consider those SHTF/Zombie Apocalypse weapons.
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at May 30, 2010 03:38 PM (ieQTh)
Posted by: Mr. Matamoros at May 30, 2010 03:39 PM (Owkb6)
My other hand typically carries a potential bribe for the marauding hordes, like my old color GameBoy, my expired Visa card, or a HotPocket. Although I do reserve the right to drop the HotPocket and engage in one last furious round of self-pleasuring before the jackbooted thugs/zombies/census workers break my door down. I haven't fully gamed out the optimal response yet.
Posted by: huh at May 30, 2010 03:39 PM (+ABdJ)
perfect.
like i said,....
but it's so handy. I would rather have this with me than a real gun at home in the safe.
Posted by: nine coconuts at May 30, 2010 03:39 PM (DHNp4)
Posted by: People's Front of Judea at May 30, 2010 03:39 PM (JfNxm)
I got a mini-Louie from the Field of Dreams for close-encounters.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 30, 2010 03:40 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: Joe S. at May 30, 2010 03:40 PM (B5UQ6)
Posted by: Schwalbe at May 30, 2010 03:41 PM (nNYvS)
Guns are evil and so are conservatives who support the pesky Second Amendment. We need justice......ban everything.
Posted by: Sarah Brady at May 30, 2010 03:44 PM (M5t+h)
Carry: Sig 226 9mm. Back up is a brandspanking new S&W Pro Series.
The gun cabinet, though, is well stocked with heavier weaponry which I dare not discuss on a list that Obamabots have access to.
Posted by: DocAnvil at May 30, 2010 03:44 PM (ztfs9)
Glock 22 .40, SKS 7.62 X 39 with composite SAW package and Remington 870 Express.........for close encounters.
Posted by: Blazer at May 30, 2010 03:44 PM (t72+4)
On my nightstand waiting for some douche-bag to make his last fatal error is my Beretta 96FS in .40 cal.
It's reliable as they come and puts a nice hole in whatever the hell I shoot at it with.
If there is a siege to the castle, or the second Revolution, or zombies, or the shit just hits the fan, I have my Kel-Tec SU-16C in 5.56 mm. Also the trusty Remington 870 Express (Synthetic of course) in 12 gauge for the fun of it all, great for zombies.
Then, and only then, is 911 called. I'm not cleaning that shit up!
Posted by: 1idvet at May 30, 2010 03:44 PM (iMyIW)
Posted by: rawmuse at May 30, 2010 03:44 PM (pjZ+1)
HAHAHAHA!!!!
I need a Depends... No really
Posted by: dri at May 30, 2010 03:45 PM (qLZ+x)
Posted by: Waste93 at May 30, 2010 03:45 PM (rYnBh)
Posted by: Ken H at May 30, 2010 03:45 PM (JimvT)
Posted by: The Dread Pirate Neck Beard at May 30, 2010 03:46 PM (wOtDN)
Posted by: People's Front of Judea at May 30, 2010 03:46 PM (JfNxm)
Still trying to decide.
Posted by: mpfs at May 30, 2010 07:45 PM (QuP9W)
Take all the time you want sweety, don't let anybody rush you.
Posted by: The Zombie Horde at May 30, 2010 03:46 PM (t72+4)
CCW: Browning Hi-Power 9mm, Colt 1911 .45acp.
SHTF: Springfield M1A, Remington 700VS w/Leupold Vari-XIII 3.5-10x LRM3, Romanian SAR-1
Posted by: Stu at May 30, 2010 03:47 PM (J+Yrz)
Posted by: Saevus at May 30, 2010 03:47 PM (v/3d8)
Been instructing my kids in firearms use for years, and when my 13 y/o daughter picked up the AR for the first time last year, I think I shed a tear because she shot it like she owned it.
Posted by: ddiddly at May 30, 2010 03:47 PM (JXF5g)
Posted by: little feat at May 30, 2010 03:48 PM (6sKtn)
Posted by: Barbarian at May 30, 2010 03:48 PM (EL+OC)
Are you a slow or fast-moving zombie horde.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 30, 2010 03:48 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: Akbar Zeb at May 30, 2010 03:49 PM (/mRzs)
I see we have the 2nd Revolution and zombies covered, but no mention of psycho clowns.
You do realize that is exactly what they want don't you?
Posted by: Blazer at May 30, 2010 03:50 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: Hammer at May 30, 2010 03:50 PM (GkYyh)
Posted by: People's Front of Judea at May 30, 2010 03:51 PM (JfNxm)
Killer Klowns from Outer Space!
But all you got to do with them is pop their noses.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 30, 2010 03:51 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: Mason Dixon at May 30, 2010 03:51 PM (rR0C5)
Posted by: Ed Morrissey at May 30, 2010 03:51 PM (XbgNo)
Posted by: ChristopherTaylor at May 30, 2010 03:53 PM (PQY7w)
Posted by: garrett at May 30, 2010 03:53 PM (+xB7a)
Killer Klowns from Outer Space!
But all you got to do with them is pop their noses.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 30, 2010 07:51 PM (c0A3e)
I was talking about these clowns.
Posted by: Blazer at May 30, 2010 03:54 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: Cooter at May 30, 2010 03:54 PM (j4mZi)
Seriously, what kind of ammo do you use for swords?
Gunblade
/Stupidest weapon of all time.
Posted by: Squall (Final Fantasy 8) at May 30, 2010 03:54 PM (c0A3e)
Plus you have the nerve to call yourself conservatives, how can you?
Posted by: MrsPaulaRevere at May 30, 2010 03:54 PM (Vol3D)
That's beautiful man. Women are some of the best natural shooters.
My son never wanted to shoot and when he turned twenty five he bought a surplus Russian M44. One brief instruction and he shot it like he had done it all his life. I was never so relieved about anything.
Posted by: Beto at May 30, 2010 03:55 PM (H+LJc)
Posted by: Skookumchuk at May 30, 2010 03:55 PM (btzPD)
Posted by: The Dread Pirate Neck Beard at May 30, 2010 03:58 PM (wOtDN)
Nothing special here, just a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range. I'm sure you guys have me topped.
Posted by: Cyberdine Systems T-800 Terminator at May 30, 2010 03:58 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: AFlyingSquirrel at May 30, 2010 03:59 PM (fbL/a)
40 watts doesn't sound like a whole lot. Maybe 40 megawatts?
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 30, 2010 04:00 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: Twelve Angry Men at May 30, 2010 04:00 PM (XbgNo)
Posted by: JimK at May 30, 2010 04:01 PM (lnFek)
...when my 13 y/o daughter picked up the AR for the first time last year...
Hey, maybe house arrest in Europe ain't so bad after all.
Posted by: Roman Polanski at May 30, 2010 04:01 PM (thr9V)
Posted by: Ben at May 30, 2010 04:02 PM (DKV43)
40 watts doesn't sound like a whole lot. Maybe 40 megawatts?
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 30, 2010 08:00 PM (c0A3e)
Fock Yoo Oshhole !
Posted by: Cyberdyne Systems T-800 Terminator at May 30, 2010 04:02 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at May 30, 2010 04:03 PM (XIUyE)
Posted by: Crusty at May 30, 2010 04:04 PM (qzgbP)
I depend on an 870 and a Glock 21; they work everytime. There's a little bit of everything in the house though. People in Scotland were perplexed that we Texans did not know exactly how many guns we had.
Posted by: Dave at May 30, 2010 04:05 PM (7p3fB)
Posted by: Mason Dixon at May 30, 2010 04:06 PM (rR0C5)
I think a .357 is going to be my next purchase. I'm leaning toward a Ruger GP-101.
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at May 30, 2010 04:06 PM (ieQTh)
Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2010 04:08 PM (fwW9R)
Posted by: scottythrust at May 30, 2010 04:08 PM (oBJkk)
Posted by: jdub at May 30, 2010 04:09 PM (xMCGT)
Shortbow +1
20 Arrows +1
Chain Mail +1
And a Ring of Protection (Democrats) +2
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at May 30, 2010 04:09 PM (SgL5z)
Posted by: Phil-351 at May 30, 2010 04:10 PM (gVY3D)
Posted by: Funeral Guy at May 30, 2010 04:10 PM (NNLlw)
Posted by: garrett at May 30, 2010 04:10 PM (+xB7a)
Posted by: Ed "Chuck J" Morrissey at May 30, 2010 04:12 PM (XbgNo)
Posted by: Bru at May 30, 2010 04:14 PM (e9VUF)
Posted by: O. B. Laden, Esq. at May 30, 2010 04:14 PM (rR0C5)
I have a concealed weapon permit
Glock Model 36 .45
.30-06 Springfield Pederson Model
want to add an AR 15
Posted by: conscious, but incredibly incoherent at May 30, 2010 04:15 PM (YVZlY)
Posted by: no I'm not paranoid, why do you ask? at May 30, 2010 04:16 PM (4WbTI)
Posted by: Gordon at May 30, 2010 07:17 PM (lf4PV)
that's what my brother-in-law carries concealed. He loves it.
Posted by: conscious, but incredibly incoherent at May 30, 2010 04:16 PM (YVZlY)
Posted by: Dave at May 30, 2010 04:17 PM (7p3fB)
BTW, Cabela's sells an AR upper that's chambered for the 5.7x28mm round fired by the FN pistol. Would be a nice combo for keeping your ammo consistent.
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at May 30, 2010 04:18 PM (SgL5z)
Is it little? I need something little. With prodigious stopping power. I would never shoot to wound.
Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2010 04:19 PM (fwW9R)
Posted by: A Man with a Yellow Hat at May 30, 2010 04:19 PM (rR0C5)
While heavily exercising the right to bear arms, how many here think the majority of our military and police rank and file would be fighting with us, not against us; orders or no orders.
Posted by: Breaker19 at May 30, 2010 04:20 PM (hFbqd)
Posted by: Wile E. Coyote at May 30, 2010 04:20 PM (XbgNo)
That's why they'll bring in UN troops to prop up the federal government.
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at May 30, 2010 04:21 PM (SgL5z)
I have a concealed weapon permit
Glock Model 36 .45
.30-06 Springfield Pederson Model
want to add an AR 15
i have the Olympic Arms AR 15. it is, or was before obama, a moderately priced AR and of good quality.
I want to buy the following guns at somepoint in my life.
Garrand
Tactical shotgun
AK 47
and some pistol smaller than a 45 but larger than a 38
not sure what exactly yet
i own a Walter P-38 which is fun to shoot and accurate but james like crazy.
Posted by: Ben at May 30, 2010 04:22 PM (DKV43)
I have very small hands and struggle with recoil on most of the handguns I have tried shooting. I'd just like something to kill intruders with; I don't need anything fancy.
My husband refuses to discuss this with me; he says I am such a bitch when my sleep is interrupted that a firearm would not be necessary. This is probably true, but I'd still like to get a gun. I need something that isn't too heavy, or hard to work.
Another question; would it be possible to get a smallish gun, but have some sort of Super Bullet that would make up for the small size of the gun?
Posted by: MissTammy at May 30, 2010 04:22 PM (GXLjK)
Posted by: Bru at May 30, 2010 04:22 PM (e9VUF)
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at May 30, 2010 08:21 PM (SgL5z)
UN troops. You made a funny!
Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2010 04:22 PM (fwW9R)
Just a simple .38 Special revolver.
It's not what you have, it's...oh well.
"Aim with the hand."
"Shoot with the mind."
"K*ll with a heart of arctic ice."
Of course K*ll = hurt someone's pinky finger.
Oh. I forgot. And my tricked-out Street Sweeper.
Posted by: Musket Man at May 30, 2010 04:22 PM (BFOTs)
M9 Berretta 9 mm pistol.
Plus the odd basket-hilted broadsword, two-handed claymore, M1840 N.C.O. sword (a rapier, more-or-less), halbard, and the odd machete or four I keep around the place.
Posted by: Consul-At-Arms at May 30, 2010 04:23 PM (K4yue)
By the way, no thugs should try to rob or assault my friends and family at a get together because the following have a concealed weapon permit:
me, my son, my daughter, my son-in-law, my sister, my brother-in-law, my niece, my best friend, my best friends wife, two of my son's best friends
11 total and more to come
Posted by: conscious, but incredibly incoherent at May 30, 2010 04:24 PM (YVZlY)
Yes, I know, but they'll still be armed with full auto and armor. And they like to rape women & children.
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at May 30, 2010 04:24 PM (SgL5z)
Another question; would it be possible to get a smallish gun, but have some sort of Super Bullet that would make up for the small size of the gun?
Posted by: MissTammy at May 30, 2010 08:22 PM (GXLjK)
Tammy, check out the Taurus Judge. Small, but it will shoot a shotgun shell. I find it intriguing.
Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2010 04:24 PM (fwW9R)
Posted by: ExurbanKevin at May 30, 2010 04:24 PM (toqoX)
Posted by: Zombie Killers Daughter at May 30, 2010 04:24 PM (hFbqd)
My husband refuses to discuss this with me; he says I am such a bitch when my sleep is interrupted that a firearm would not be necessary. This is probably true, but I'd still like to get a gun. I need something that isn't too heavy, or hard to work.
Another question; would it be possible to get a smallish gun, but have some sort of Super Bullet that would make up for the small size of the gun?
get a 380 with hollow point bullets(expanding bullets)
it depends on how small your hands are. Kimber makes a lot of ladies guns i think.
Can you palm a kiwi?
Posted by: Ben at May 30, 2010 04:25 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: Thor at May 30, 2010 04:25 PM (5JHnN)
122 I want one of these.
Big Fucking Gun 9000.
That wiki article is wrong. (or at best incomplete) The Doom 2 user guide says BFG stands for Big Fragging Gun. I had to fix it.
Posted by: dudeinsantacruz at May 30, 2010 04:26 PM (XAWWt)
Posted by: The Dread Pirate Neck Beard at May 30, 2010 04:26 PM (wOtDN)
If the intruder can handle all five bullets from my snub nosed .38, use my back up piece which is Will Forks weiner.
Posted by: Ben at May 30, 2010 04:27 PM (DKV43)
That's why they'll bring in UN troops to prop up the federal government.
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at May 30, 2010 08:21 PM (SgL5z)
Sorry, I would have responded to this sooner....but I had to pick myself up off of the floor and catch my breath from the hysterical fit of laughing that overcame me.
Posted by: Blazer at May 30, 2010 04:27 PM (t72+4)
I have very small hands and struggle with recoil on most of the handguns I have tried shooting. I'd just like something to kill intruders with; I don't need anything fancy.
My husband refuses to discuss this with me; he says I am such a bitch when my sleep is interrupted that a firearm would not be necessary. This is probably true, but I'd still like to get a gun. I need something that isn't too heavy, or hard to work.
Another question; would it be possible to get a smallish gun, but have some sort of Super Bullet that would make up for the small size of the gun?
I would have to see a scantily clad picture of your, ahem, frame to make an educated suggestion.
Posted by: AP at May 30, 2010 04:27 PM (EL+OC)
I largely agree, although it does have high capacity mags. But the ammo is expensive, like over 40 cents per round even in large bulk. No thanks.
If it were me, I'd stick with a .45ACP. Hell, even a good 9mm is probably better.
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at May 30, 2010 04:28 PM (SgL5z)
You could buy a Gyrojet, just like Matt Helm.
Posted by: Skookumchuk at May 30, 2010 04:28 PM (btzPD)
Can you palm a kiwi?
Posted by: Ben at May 30, 2010 08:25 PM (DKV43)
I wouldn't even blow an Aussie.
Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2010 04:28 PM (fwW9R)
Posted by: Mike 18 at May 30, 2010 04:29 PM (5JHnN)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at May 30, 2010 04:29 PM (XIUyE)
Oh noes, the Internet is wrong!
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 30, 2010 04:30 PM (c0A3e)
That's why they'll bring in UN troops to prop up the federal government.
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at May 30, 2010 08:21 PM (SgL5z)
Sorry, I would have responded to this sooner....but I had to pick myself up off of the floor and catch my breath from the hysterical fit of laughing that overcame me.
Actually UN troops would be just fine. I would have absolutely no moral qualms dealing with them.
I have a personal question. Am I the only person who sometimes has a day dream that is similar to the beginning of Red Dawn, but with Chicoms?
In this dream, I take my entire arsenal outside, with a six pack and a lawn chair. fun times.
UN troops would be just as fun.
Posted by: Ben at May 30, 2010 04:30 PM (DKV43)
Search for the weapon that has the slowest velocity possible, with the largest weight you are comfortable with shooting. Lower weights mean more comfort with the weapon. Slower velocities mean greater impact on the target.
Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2010 04:30 PM (fwW9R)
Like I told Peaches, I know, but they'll still be armed with full auto and armor. And they like to rape women & children.
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at May 30, 2010 04:30 PM (SgL5z)
Peaches, thank you! I'll check it out.
Ben, I have friends in New Zealand, and your question....took me aback for a second, til I realized what you meant.
I think I could barely palm a kiwi, but nothing much larger than that. I usually have to use two hands to hold a large drink.
Posted by: MissTammy at May 30, 2010 04:31 PM (GXLjK)
Posted by: Suburban Soccer Mom Society at May 30, 2010 04:31 PM (w9bVp)
Posted by: Bugler at May 30, 2010 04:32 PM (VXBR1)
Like I told Peaches, I know, but they'll still be armed with full auto and armor. And they like to rape women & children.
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at May 30, 2010 08:30 PM (SgL5z)
Which means it will be about all of 5 minutes before I have some armor and fully automatic weapons and a few Frenchmen get raped.
Posted by: Blazer at May 30, 2010 04:33 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: Burger King at May 30, 2010 04:34 PM (w9bVp)
Posted by: GolfBoy at May 30, 2010 04:34 PM (WGL5k)
Like I told Peaches, I know, but they'll still be armed with full auto and armor.
It's brand new stuff too, only dropped once.
Posted by: robtr at May 30, 2010 04:35 PM (fwSHf)
Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2010 04:35 PM (fwW9R)
.303 Enfield rules.
uhhh. I bought a Model 4 Lee Enfield, WW1 or WW2 vintage but sold it. I really regret it.
it was heavy as shit though, all wood.
Posted by: Ben at May 30, 2010 04:35 PM (DKV43)
I know one die hard libtard that's in the Navy (I mean die hard, wants to repeal the 10th for staters) who has stated openly that he would proudly shoot civilians during an armed insurrection if ordered to do so, no questions asked. I'm sure he's in the minority and would probably be fragged forthwith.
Posted by: mpur in Texas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 30, 2010 04:36 PM (iBTj9)
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at May 30, 2010 08:30 PM (SgL5z)
answer = head shot at long range with a high powered rifle and great scope, or if you want to mess with them, shoot them in each leg
Posted by: conscious, but ronery at May 30, 2010 04:36 PM (YVZlY)
Meh. I figure I could take out a UN troop regiment with my geology hammer, the Louisville slugger and two irritable house cats. Bring it. Welcome to Venice, what color body bag do you prefer?
i assume this is footage of you.
Posted by: Ben at May 30, 2010 04:36 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at May 30, 2010 04:37 PM (554T5)
Posted by: Skookumchuk at May 30, 2010 04:37 PM (btzPD)
Posted by: Dyrewulf at May 30, 2010 04:37 PM (rDb4O)
Good thing you live so far away, otherwise you'd be the first to die. And I always liked you, Ben. Such a shame [shakes head}
Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2010 04:37 PM (fwW9R)
Posted by: mpur in Texas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 30, 2010 08:36 PM (iBTj9)
I'd make him a fucking priority...
Posted by: conscious, but ronery at May 30, 2010 04:38 PM (YVZlY)
Peaches, thank you! I'll check it out.
Ben, I have friends in New Zealand, and your question....took me aback for a second, til I realized what you meant.
I think I could barely palm a kiwi, but nothing much larger than that. I usually have to use two hands to hold a large drink.
yeah, then buy a .380, kel tec maybe, and by hollow point bullets. it isn't guaranteed to stop a tweakers, but i'm sure you can squeeze off a few rounds quickly. i owned one. it couldnt have been more than 25-35 oz. Its tiny as well.
Posted by: Ben at May 30, 2010 04:39 PM (DKV43)
2 or 3 ounce lead fishing weights --- hurled with practiced accuracy and evil intent they will stop an attacker cold. Try it, just tap one to your sternum, then imagine it at 40 MPH. Keep a few in your pocket when you go out at night, it's better than nothing!
Posted by: SFCuebist at May 30, 2010 04:39 PM (kcXmO)
Posted by: Mr. Gridley at May 30, 2010 04:40 PM (GsY1Q)
I know one die hard libtard that's in the Navy (I mean die hard, wants to repeal the 10th for staters) who has stated openly that he would proudly shoot civilians during an armed insurrection if ordered to do so, no questions asked. I'm sure he's in the minority and would probably be fragged forthwith.
they give guns to people in the navy?
Posted by: Ben at May 30, 2010 04:40 PM (DKV43)
Like I told Peaches, I know, but they'll still be armed with full auto and armor. And they like to rape women & children.
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at May 30, 2010 08:30 PM (SgL5z)
In all seriousness dude, you are talking about the most incompetent military force in history. Rolling up a dirt road in some Sudanese backwater and projecting force onto some village where the people still think its two centuries ago is far far removed from rolling down main Street U.S.A. where every Tom, Dick and Harriet is armed to the teeth and has seen every invasion and survival movie to come out in the last two decades.
Posted by: Blazer at May 30, 2010 04:41 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: John Fucking McCain at May 30, 2010 04:41 PM (XbgNo)
Posted by: ARL at May 30, 2010 04:41 PM (xCoRj)
Aint no zombies gonna eat my brains.
Posted by: Boxy Brown at May 30, 2010 04:41 PM (PWM6Q)
Good, Brew, good. Finally got back to work, only a couple of weeks ago. It's totally kicking my ass, after all those endless months on the dole, but I'm enjoying it. Even if I do have to dress like a grownup (sigh).
Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2010 04:42 PM (fwW9R)
All you people who ridicule .25 cal handguns remind me of my son who thinks it won't stop an intruder, but he refuses to let me test his claim by shooting him with it.
I also some times carry a CZ model 82.
Posted by: Pelayo at May 30, 2010 04:43 PM (CNNS6)
You can have the Frenchmen.
It's brand new stuff too, only dropped once.
Heh. They'd probably still be coated in cosmoline, too.
Look, I don't have much respect for the fighting ability of UN troops either, but you have to be realistic. Alone, or even with a few friends, few of us would survive a full frontal assault against a coordinated attack with armor, artillery, etc., not to even mention air support. Guerrilla warfare is another matter altogether, and the preferable option. Red Dawn actually provided a good lesson in that.
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at May 30, 2010 04:44 PM (SgL5z)
Posted by: Mr. Gridley at May 30, 2010 04:44 PM (GsY1Q)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 30, 2010 04:44 PM (eNxMU)
In all seriousness dude, you are talking about the most incompetent military force in history. Rolling up a dirt road in some Sudanese backwater and projecting force onto some village where the people still think its two centuries ago is far far removed from rolling down main Street U.S.A. where every Tom, Dick and Harriet is armed to the teeth and has seen every invasion and survival movie to come out in the last two decades.
i live watching war footage on liveleak in african countries. the way they fire a gun is hilarious. freaking hilarious. i would call it spray and pray, but it isn't even that accurate.
Posted by: Ben at May 30, 2010 04:44 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: Mephitis at May 30, 2010 04:45 PM (ehXLT)
The following was enough to get me banned at Hot Air:
(Said in regards to the Islamic "cultural center" at Ground Zero in Manhattan...)
It'd be a darned shame if something happened to the building.
Yep, they're awfully touchy these days at Hot Air.
Posted by: packsoldier at May 30, 2010 04:47 PM (ZRKXj)
People should'nt have guns.
Posted by: barack obama at May 30, 2010 07:39 PM (98VOn)
And the USA shouldn't have communist dictator wannabes.
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at May 30, 2010 04:47 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: Mark at May 30, 2010 04:47 PM (0nwFA)
Posted by: Bugler at May 30, 2010 04:48 PM (VXBR1)
House gun 1911 Ultra Compact with Golden Sabre HP in a 10 rd mag
Preferred Handgun 1911 Long Slide .45acp with Molly coated 200 gr SWC
Utility all around gun Marlin 336C in 30:30
Don't ever fuck with me gun M1 with CorLox 170gr soft point
Don't ever fuck with me gun II Winchester 1898 pump with 4s
Bird gun Ruger Red Label OU 20ga
Posted by: Serfer62 at May 30, 2010 04:48 PM (HLCnI)
Look, I don't have much respect for the fighting ability of UN troops either, but you have to be realistic. Alone, or even with a few friends, few of us would survive a full frontal assault against a coordinated attack with armor, artillery, etc., not to even mention air support. Guerrilla warfare is another matter altogether, and the preferable option. Red Dawn actually provided a good lesson in that.
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at May 30, 2010 08:44 PM (SgL5z)
Name one fucking battle the U.N. has ever successfully fought and one? Name one fucking time they have ever kept the peace anywhere and one time they have ever stopped wholesale genocide like in Rwanda, Sudan or the Balkans or kept the peace on the Lebanon/Israel border and then get back to me.
If i didn't know any better I'd say you were T-Dub, except with a U.N. fetish instead of a Soviet one.
Posted by: Blazer at May 30, 2010 04:48 PM (t72+4)
Yep, they're awfully touchy these days at Hot Air.
Posted by: packsoldier at May 30, 2010 08:47 PM (ZRKXj)
Yeah, it's more like Tepid Air at this point. Kind of a bummer, but they've sold out and who can blame them?
Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2010 04:48 PM (fwW9R)
OT, but per drudge, the new method BP is trying could open up the leak by 20% more if it fails.
This accident is becoming a major catastrophe. I don't see how BP survives this. I honestly think they will have to go bankrupt because this is going to be tens of billions in damages, maybe more.
oh and Obama Admin is trying to deport the son of the founder of Hamas who turned christian and spied for the Israeli Shin Bet. I guess there is one illegal they want to deport.
oh then there is this....http://tinyurl.com/2vtujnz
Posted by: Ben at May 30, 2010 04:49 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: Mephitis at May 30, 2010 04:50 PM (ehXLT)
If he survived, he'd be the first hanged as a war criminal. You'd think a lefty would understand that.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 30, 2010 04:50 PM (0onAO)
Posted by: TexasJew at May 30, 2010 04:50 PM (KXW8j)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at May 30, 2010 04:50 PM (XIUyE)
Yeah, it's more like Tepid Air at
this point. Kind of a bummer, but they've sold out and who can blame
them?
Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2010 08:48 PM (fwW9R)
Yo.
Posted by: FUBAR at May 30, 2010 04:51 PM (1fanL)
"Yeah, it's more like Tepid Air at this point. Kind of a bummer, but they've sold out and who can blame them?"
True. Money talks and bullshit walks.
Posted by: packsoldier at May 30, 2010 04:51 PM (ZRKXj)
Right on! The only thing the Blue Helmets are useful for is taking advantage of backwater villages via the sex, guns, and drugs trade.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 30, 2010 04:51 PM (c0A3e)
Wolverines!
I've been told that baby blue glows like neon at dawn and dusk. Anyone else heard that?
Posted by: mpur in Texas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 30, 2010 04:52 PM (iBTj9)
Posted by: Pelayo at May 30, 2010 04:53 PM (CNNS6)
Posted by: Mr. Gridley at May 30, 2010 04:54 PM (GsY1Q)
Posted by: irongrampa at May 30, 2010 04:54 PM (ud5dN)
In all seriousness dude, you are talking about the most incompetent military force in history. Rolling up a dirt road in some Sudanese backwater and projecting force onto some village where the people still think its two centuries ago is far far removed from rolling down main Street U.S.A. where every Tom, Dick and Harriet is armed to the teeth and has seen every invasion and survival movie to come out in the last two decades.
Wolverines!
I've been told that baby blue glows like neon at dawn and dusk. Anyone else heard that?
they wouldn't make it past the ports, with the exception of San Francisco.
Posted by: Ben at May 30, 2010 04:54 PM (DKV43)
Right on! The only thing the Blue Helmets are useful for is taking advantage of backwater villages via the sex, guns, and drugs trade.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 30, 2010 08:51 PM (c0A3e)
And I didn't even mention Eritrea or Haiti. I'm sure there are many other instances. Look at inept and incompetent in the Dictionary and you'll see some Euro-pee-on fag ass General with a blue helmet on and a shit eating grin.
Posted by: Blazer at May 30, 2010 04:55 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: Captain Crunch at May 30, 2010 04:55 PM (qypmI)
All you people who ridicule .25 cal handguns remind me of my son who thinks it won't stop an intruder, but he refuses to let me test his claim by shooting him with it.
Any caliber is sufficient, if you can place the round where you want and ESPECIALLY if you can place multiple rounds where you want.
This accident is becoming a major catastrophe. I don't see how BP survives this. I honestly think they will have to go bankrupt because this is going to be tens of billions in damages, maybe more.
I hope you realize this isn't even the largest leak ever in the Gulf. Seriously, folks, get a grip -- it's not the end of the world. If this destroys BP, it's because we've become a pack of cowards incapable of facing the most basic risks of our modern life.Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 30, 2010 04:55 PM (0onAO)
Posted by: George Orwell at May 30, 2010 04:56 PM (XbgNo)
Well I did try out my new 1000 fps .22 pellet gun today but that's just for pests. Did you know that a drop of corn oil in the back of the pellet will burn under the sudden compression?
The sharp crack proves the pellet went supersonic. Fun, but the accuracy goes to hell.
Posted by: snookered at May 30, 2010 04:56 PM (jchJh)
Posted by: Mr. Gridley at May 30, 2010 04:57 PM (GsY1Q)
my favorite weapon is a w*rking radio, with a current SOI, a local map and a dedicated FA Battalion on the other end. Eight inch would be my choice, but the idiots got rid of them, so 155, MLRS or even 120mm mortars will do. CAS also gets'er done, with default being Warthog......
i've been trying to acquire a Die Dicke Bertha, but the people of Essen keep telling me Krupp merged with Thyssen and doesn't make them anymore.
Posted by: Ben at May 30, 2010 04:57 PM (DKV43)
All you people who ridicule .25 cal handguns remind me of my son who thinks it won't stop an intruder, but he refuses to let me test his claim by shooting him with it.
i may have peed a little bit when i read that
Posted by: Ben at May 30, 2010 04:58 PM (DKV43)
To be fair, they are still a great source of great links, though.
Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2010 04:58 PM (fwW9R)
hope you realize this isn't even the largest leak ever in the Gulf. Seriously, folks, get a grip -- it's not the end of the world. If this destroys BP, it's because we've become a pack of cowards incapable of facing the most basic risks of our modern life.
my point exactly. I think everyone and their mother are going to sue BP.
Posted by: Ben at May 30, 2010 04:59 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: Bugler at May 30, 2010 05:00 PM (VXBR1)
Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2010 08:58 PM (fwW9R)
Yeah they are the first to link to anything negative about Sara Palin and anything positive about any democrat.
Posted by: robtr at May 30, 2010 05:00 PM (fwSHf)
So long as the crapweasels don't decide to back their play with my tax dollars, I don't give a rat's ass.
Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2010 05:00 PM (fwW9R)
Posted by: Maj. Hasan at May 30, 2010 05:01 PM (eKgqT)
Top PR firm for BP tied to White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel
By: Mark Hemingway
Commentary Staff Writer
05/30/10 2:42 PM EDT
Over at The Next Right, the've pieced together some interesting connections about the White House's ties to British Petroleum, better known as the company currently polluting the Gulf of Mexico. We all know Obama was the biggest recipient of BP's campaign cash in Washington, but it seems BP's ties to the White House run even deeper.
According to The Next Right, PR firm Greenberg Quinlan Rosner "helped BP plan and evaluate its successful re-branding campaign, focusing the company's branding on energy solutions, including the development of solar and other renewable energy sources."
The firm's Stanley Greenberg is married to Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn. There was something of a flap last year when it was pointed out that White house Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel had been living in the couple's Capitol Hill townhouse and resulting in a lot of questions about whether or not this arrangement violated congressional ethical guidelines.
Further, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee paid Greenberg's firm some $500,000 in 2006 and 2008 while Emanuel was living with Greenberg, and Emanuel was even in charge of the DCCC during the 2006 election cycle.
And I'd be willing to bet that BP has paid Greenberg Quinlan Rosner a lot more than that. I doubt I'm the only one who thinks that BP's relationship with the White House might be a little too close for comfort.
BP Aims to Avoid Fresh Restrictions on Drilling
By ELIZABETH WILLIAMSON
(excerpted)
After the spill, the company brought on crisis communicator Hilary Rosen, former Democratic congressional staffer, former chief executive of the Recording Industry Association of America, and a current editor-at-large for HuffingtonPost.com. Ms. Rosen heads the Washington-based office of U.K. communications firm the Brunswick Group. Public records are not yet available on the new Brunswick contract. Ms. Rosen declined to be interviewed on the record.
(excerpted)
Even before the Gulf disaster, BP has faced tough scrutiny from federal regulators, starting in the aftermath of a 2005 explosion that killed 15 workers at a Texas refinery, a 2006 oil spill in Alaska and allegations of safety lapses at a Toledo, Ohio, refinery.
Despite this history of safety problems, BP has made allies of some Democrats and environmentalists with its support for climate-change legislation, which company lobbyists helped write. It is a key member of the United States Climate Action Partnership, which aims to convince businesses that renewable energy and putting a price on industry emissions of heat-trapping gases can be profitable.
Among BP's lobbyists is Tony Podesta, who heads the Podesta Group, a lobbying powerhouse founded by Mr. Podesta and his brother, former Clinton chief of staff John Podesta, who headed President Barack Obama's transition team. John Podesta now leads the Center for American Progress, the liberal think tank whose scholars have presented the White House with ideas like forcing BP to devote its first-quarter profits, or some $5 billion, to a fund for Gulf cleanup. It also has criticized potential BP-related conflicts of interest within the government.
Tony Podesta confirmed Podesta Group was working for BP on the Deepwater Horizon issue, but responded by email that "they have asked us not to talk to press." BP paid the Podesta Group $320,000 a year in 2008 and 2009, and $60,000 this year through March 31, said the Center for Responsive Politics. "We don't talk business, are often on opposite sides of an issue, and still maintain peace at the dinner table," John Podesta said, referring to he and his brother.
(excerpted)
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at May 30, 2010 05:01 PM (ieQTh)
Posted by: Original Mikey at May 30, 2010 05:01 PM (Av4L9)
Posted by: Dave at May 30, 2010 09:01 PM (fZ3++)
No icky exit splatter to be cleaned up later?
Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2010 05:01 PM (fwW9R)
i've been trying to acquire a Die Dicke Bertha, but the people of Essen keep telling me Krupp merged with Thyssen and doesn't make them anymore.
Posted by: Ben at May 30, 2010 08:57 PM (DKV43)
My Schwerer Gustav is a bitch to take to the range.
Posted by: FUBAR at May 30, 2010 05:02 PM (1fanL)
Hello fellow morans.
Hello there cuz !
Posted by: Erin Moran at May 30, 2010 07:39 PM (t72+4)
It's a Moran-family reunion!
Posted by: Jim Moran (D)-Umbass at May 30, 2010 05:03 PM (xfZ7W)
My Schwerer Gustav is a bitch to take to the range.
I love how the family named all the bad ass guns after themselves.
Posted by: Ben at May 30, 2010 05:04 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: rawmuse at May 30, 2010 05:04 PM (pjZ+1)
Yeah they are the first to link to anything negative about Sara Palin and anything positive about any democrat.
Posted by: robtr at May 30, 2010 09:00 PM (fwSHf)
Did you see Ed defending Barry from MoDo? Who in hell does he think he's impressing?
Posted by: FUBAR at May 30, 2010 05:04 PM (1fanL)
I'm going with "The guy who signs his paycheck" for $200, Alex.
Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2010 05:05 PM (fwW9R)
Posted by: FeralCat at May 30, 2010 05:06 PM (Xp0SK)
To be fair, they are still a great source of great links, though.
Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2010 08:58 PM (fwW9R)
Funny that on a day when Cap'n' Ed goes on a "Leave Obama Alone !" rant about his Memorial Day holiday plans, Maureen O'Dowd of all people comes out with both pistols blazing about Wee Wee not going to Arlington and tending to the Gulf, but to Hyde Park on vacay instead.
Yea, thats right, Maureen fucking O'Dowd.
Posted by: Blazer at May 30, 2010 05:06 PM (t72+4)
Decisions, decisions - I may go with the M1 series:
M1 Garand, M1 Carbine, M1A1, and M1A Thompson submachine gun.
Sadly, my collection is missing the M1 Bradley.
Posted by: USCitizen at May 30, 2010 05:06 PM (eNLJG)
Posted by: Ben at May 30, 2010 05:07 PM (DKV43)
Did you see Ed defending Barry from MoDo? Who in hell does he think he's impressing?
Posted by: FUBAR at May 30, 2010 09:04 PM (1fanL)
Yeah I also saw the douche defending Wasserman Shultz when she was claiming democrats would create more jobs this year than Bush did in 8. I emailed him and asked him what the frigging numbers were for the last 3 1/2 years Wasserman Shultz has controlled congress. I haven't heard back from him.
Posted by: robtr at May 30, 2010 05:07 PM (fwSHf)
Shut up! Really? She is the worst of the worst. And fuckin fugly to boot.
Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2010 05:08 PM (fwW9R)
Several Glocks in 9mm and .40.
A highly-modified Remington 700.
I occasionally think about getting an Accuracy International Super Magnum, and maybe a Steyr SSG, but Obama's economy have put those plans on hold for the time being.
Posted by: Phinn at May 30, 2010 05:08 PM (GiUTT)
Posted by: instinct at May 30, 2010 05:08 PM (TIbRS)
Yeah I also saw the douche defending Wasserman Shultz when she was claiming democrats would create more jobs this year than Bush did in 8. I emailed him and asked him what the frigging numbers were for the last 3 1/2 years Wasserman Shultz has controlled congress. I haven't heard back from him.
Posted by: robtr at May 30, 2010 09:07 PM (fwSHf)
Yeah. Un-frickin'-believable.
I'm going with "The guy who signs his paycheck" for
$200, Alex.
Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2010 09:05 PM (fwW9R)
Barry owns HotAir?
Posted by: FUBAR at May 30, 2010 05:10 PM (1fanL)
Fuck, there'd be a parade there to welcome the new overlords.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at May 30, 2010 05:11 PM (554T5)
or if you want to mess with them, shoot them in each leg the crotch
ftfy
And any UN troops that got deployed stateside would be wiped out.
Posted by: Dang Straights at May 30, 2010 05:12 PM (4Q7Cg)
- Calico M950: the definition of "high capacity"
- Martin 70lb compound (and 55lb and 70lb recurves as backup)
.... a broadhead delivers the same message as a straight razor, only louder.
- plenty of pepper spray, 9V batteries, etc.
(I agree with Gimlet; it's better to go with one's codpiece buttoned)
Posted by: Arbalest at May 30, 2010 05:12 PM (BjcIH)
Now, it ain't legal to carry concealed where I live, and I wouldn't do such a thing, but if I were to consider it, I would put my model 36 Chief's special in my nightstand, and buy a LCP. And load it with Magtech 77 grain hollowpoints made of all copper, no lead (1100fps, 207ft lbs, not bad for a mini).
Oh, and an 8 + 1 pistol grip 12 gauge Persuader w/00 for TEOTWAWKI
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 30, 2010 05:12 PM (Poe30)
If i didn't know any better I'd say you were T-Dub, except with a U.N. fetish instead of a Soviet one.
Look, I don't know where you got the idea that I was "fetishizing" UN troops. I'm just making a cautionary point. I never doubt anyone's bravery or capability in the face of fire because you never know, but it is foolish of any of us to think this is some Hollywood scenario where our various collections of firearms are enough for us to single-handedly fight off a forceful counter-resistance. Even if the entire US military rank and file went AWOL rather than support the Feds, we'd still lack the command and control structure. That's more important to modern military tactics than you may believe. I'm not saying UN troops couldn't be defeated; I'm just saying that a lot of our own people would die in the process.
So, if you want to ignore my point and paint me as some kind of enemy, then fine. Ignore my point, go out on your porch, drink your beer, and fire off your various small caliber weapons at all the inept invaders. You'll probably take out more of them than they take from you. But there's only one of you.
My greater point is that if we're going to envision the scenario posited by the original post, then we should do so completely. Even if the entire populace were unified in such an effort - and they certainly will not be - it would still be an uphill battle.
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at May 30, 2010 05:13 PM (SgL5z)
Posted by: REM at May 30, 2010 05:13 PM (1fanL)
Shit hit the fan multiple: Remington 870 shotgun
Distance: for fun - M1 / for multiple - M1A
Close 100 multiple - AR15
The only thing more dangerous than a private with a loaded weapon is an officer with a map.
Posted by: GarandFan at May 30, 2010 05:13 PM (6mwMs)
Posted by: Vmaximus at May 30, 2010 05:14 PM (IDxZX)
Ref the UN troops
As Admiral Yamamoto said about invading the USA...there'll be a rifleman behind every blade of grass/
UN troops sounds like a barbeque with bullets...
Posted by: Serfer62 at May 30, 2010 05:14 PM (HLCnI)
Is it wrong of me to hope that Cynthia McKinney is on the prow when the IDF shows 'em what's up?
Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2010 05:15 PM (fwW9R)
I have an important question. I have a bomb shelter and yet to have a lady friend, what are some important things i might stock up on in my bomb shelter?
Posted by: robotgossip at May 30, 2010 05:17 PM (EiH7n)
Posted by: George Orwell at May 30, 2010 05:17 PM (XbgNo)
Posted by: robotgossip at May 30, 2010 09:17 PM (EiH7n)
Dunno, blow up doll maybe?
Posted by: robtr at May 30, 2010 05:17 PM (fwSHf)
Tampons
Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2010 05:17 PM (fwW9R)
Posted by: MOE GRUNT at May 30, 2010 05:18 PM (gIxJG)
Posted by: Hoffy at May 30, 2010 05:18 PM (+MfOC)
Plane with man on no-fly list diverted to Montreal
An Aeromexico plane flying to Mexico City from Paris had to land late Sunday afternoon at Pierre Elliott Trudeau International Airport in Montreal to remove a passenger whose name is on the U.S. no-fly list, Radio-Canada reported.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 30, 2010 05:20 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: robotgossip at May 30, 2010 05:20 PM (EiH7n)
Post # 3 is all you need. Every thing else is just a tool.
Actually, morgenholz really can kill with his thoughts.
Posted by: Dang Straights at May 30, 2010 05:20 PM (4Q7Cg)
So, if you want to ignore my point and paint me as some kind of enemy, then fine. Ignore my point, go out on your porch, drink your beer, and fire off your various small caliber weapons at all the inept invaders. You'll probably take out more of them than they take from you. But there's only one of you.
You're ignoring mine. I asked you to name one campaign, battle or peace keeping operation they were ever successful in and so far you have failed to do so. Plus, I'm not alone, I have the whole state of Virginia and tens of thousands of heavily armed good ol' boys backing me up.
Posted by: Blazer at May 30, 2010 05:21 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: eman at May 30, 2010 05:22 PM (kgGdn)
Posted by: George Orwell at May 30, 2010 05:22 PM (XbgNo)
Posted by: Mr. Gridley at May 30, 2010 05:22 PM (GsY1Q)
Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at May 30, 2010 05:23 PM (k2Rnj)
Everything else is frippery.
Posted by: NOI at May 30, 2010 09:21 PM (7EDH5)
Otherwise known as the Mattel Poodle Popper.
Kidding sorta
Posted by: robtr at May 30, 2010 05:24 PM (fwSHf)
Posted by: Jay in Ames at May 30, 2010 05:25 PM (LJaVO)
Posted by: robotgossip at May 30, 2010 05:25 PM (EiH7n)
Posted by: Jay in Ames at May 30, 2010 09:25 PM (LJaVO)
My doctor won't let me watch PBS
Posted by: robtr at May 30, 2010 05:26 PM (fwSHf)
Posted by: chlorine gas at May 30, 2010 05:26 PM (Gk/wA)
Posted by: Enola Gay at May 30, 2010 05:26 PM (p5K6J)
Posted by: Ella at May 30, 2010 05:27 PM (At2Vl)
Posted by: LincolnTf at May 30, 2010 05:28 PM (7EDH5)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 30, 2010 05:28 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Death Star at May 30, 2010 05:29 PM (Gk/wA)
Posted by: Druid at May 30, 2010 05:29 PM (Oe01r)
Posted by: Clown at May 30, 2010 05:31 PM (Gk/wA)
Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at May 30, 2010 05:31 PM (b+X6h)
Just a jaw that can protrude out and rip your heart from its chest cavity....... oh yea, and acid blood,.......other than that, nothing impressive.
Posted by: Xenomorph at May 30, 2010 05:32 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: robotgossip at May 30, 2010 05:32 PM (EiH7n)
I'm a bomb made out of light. How cool is that?
Posted by: photon torpedo at May 30, 2010 09:33 PM (Gk/wA
Fuckin' piker
Posted by: The Genesis Device at May 30, 2010 05:34 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: L. H. Oswald in the book suppository building at May 30, 2010 05:34 PM (CNNS6)
How 'bout a plasma shoulder cannon, bitch?
Posted by: Predator at May 30, 2010 05:35 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: phaser at May 30, 2010 05:35 PM (Gk/wA)
concealment is an issue, but then simply carrying My Weapon of Choice does tend to discourage arguments, harassment, interference, etc
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at May 30, 2010 05:35 PM (JrRME)
First of all, I never defended the UN or held them up as some kind of elite force, I just pointed out the fact that if we were to have a major revolutionary event in the US, they would likely be called in to defend the Feds. So, I'm not arguing against you, or ignoring your point. I'm fully aware that there are millions of well-armed citizens that represent a formidable barrier to foreign invasion of any kind. That's a great thing, but it would require a serious commitment by those people. Thus, I'm just trying to point out the big picture, and you're selectively ignoring my bigger point.
But whatever, dude. You think you're trying to "win" an perceived argument on the intertubes, so have at it.
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at May 30, 2010 05:36 PM (SgL5z)
Posted by: fugazi at May 30, 2010 05:37 PM (4bvZp)
Just a jaw that can protrude out and rip your heart from its chest cavity....... oh yea, and acid blood,.......other than that, nothing impressive.
How 'bout a plasma shoulder cannon, bitch?
Posted by: Predator at May 30, 2010 09:35 PM (c0A3e)
Oh No he didn't. Muthafuggah...........
Just wait 'till i get your ass in AVP Gold, bitch !
Posted by: Pred-Alien at May 30, 2010 05:37 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: Andi Sullivan at May 30, 2010 05:37 PM (VXBR1)
Posted by: Pelayo at May 30, 2010 05:38 PM (CNNS6)
Posted by: Bene Gesserit at May 30, 2010 05:38 PM (Gk/wA)
concealment is an issue, but then simply carrying My Weapon of Choice does tend to discourage arguments, harassment, interference, etc
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at May 30, 2010 09:35 PM (JrRME)
Commie. I prefer an M-32 grenade launcher.
Posted by: FUBAR at May 30, 2010 05:38 PM (1fanL)
Posted by: Magic User - Illusionist at May 30, 2010 05:40 PM (1fanL)
Posted by: Pelayo at May 30, 2010 05:40 PM (CNNS6)
Posted by: Mr. Gridley at May 30, 2010 05:40 PM (p5K6J)
Commie. I prefer an M-32 grenade
launcher.
Posted by: FUBAR at May 30, 2010 09:38 PM (1fanL)
six in one, half-dozen........
plus, mine is bigger than yours
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at May 30, 2010 05:41 PM (JrRME)
Posted by: doubleplusundead at May 30, 2010 05:41 PM (q4aZd)
six in one, half-dozen........
plus, mine is bigger than yours
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at May 30, 2010 09:41 PM (JrRME)
Mine has multiple rounds. And it's not as instantly recognizable. And it wasn't invented by commies, Ivan.
Posted by: FUBAR at May 30, 2010 05:42 PM (1fanL)
Posted by: ion cannon at May 30, 2010 05:42 PM (Gk/wA)
Posted by: fixerupper at May 30, 2010 05:45 PM (ffV1/)
But whatever, dude. You think you're trying to "win" an perceived argument on the intertubes, so have at it.
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at May 30, 2010 09:36 PM (SgL5z)
Project much? You're the one who brought it up and keep pursuing it. Google is your friend and as being someone who really likes to have past history and precedent as the foundation of any argument you have failed to bring forth yours after I have brought forth mine. Look I'm not trying to paint you as an enemy, the T-Dub reference was a low blow, I'll admit. I just think you have way too much faith in a foreign and inept military force that would make Barney Fife look like John Rambo instead of good old American ingenuity and resolve.
The U.N. tries to project force here and its slaughterama, shooting fish in a barrell, end of story.
Posted by: Blazer at May 30, 2010 05:46 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: FUBAR at May 30, 2010 05:46 PM (1fanL)
Posted by: mpur in Texas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 30, 2010 05:46 PM (iBTj9)
That's a legitimate point. Keep in mind, I'm not arguing for such a event, just warning of the possibility. And, God forbid, they kept our naval crews in the dark, and they were transporting UN troops under supposed "training purposes." Jesus, I'm getting too cynical...
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at May 30, 2010 05:46 PM (SgL5z)
Posted by: Craig at May 30, 2010 05:48 PM (0smvD)
Mossberg 590A1 shotguns with ghost-ring sites and pistol grips.
1600fps shells from Hornady and Federal Cartridge.
Posted by: Lindsey Grahamnesty licking Rahm Emanuel's sweet hairy balls at May 30, 2010 05:48 PM (wa5IX)
Mine has multiple rounds. And it's
not as instantly recognizable. And it wasn't invented by commies,
Ivan.
Posted by: FUBAR at May 30, 2010 09:42 PM (1fanL)
.......but mine is bigger than yours, and I want it to be 'recognized'.
Posted by: Ivan, who scoffs at FUBAR at May 30, 2010 05:48 PM (JrRME)
The Israeli Mossad used .22 caliber Berettas to smoke one of the terrorists who was responsible for the Munich Olympic massacre.
They also use them to plink rioting terrorists in the junk. Gotta love that one.
Posted by: Dang Straights at May 30, 2010 05:49 PM (4Q7Cg)
Posted by: Bat'leth at May 30, 2010 05:49 PM (Gk/wA)
Posted by: Barak Horror Picture Show at May 30, 2010 05:50 PM (nUzm+)
Heh heh heh... Depends on which room of the house I'm in, which vehicle I'm driving, and just how roomy my britches are... I believe my Grandfather had the best line regarding concealed carry: " Grandpa, do you have a pistol on ya?" "By God I'm wearin pants, ain't I?"
44s and 45s for belt use, 32s, 380s and 9mils for discreet carry... and NAA mini revolvers in 22 mag just for the pure unadulterated AMERICAN pleasure of never being without something that goes bang and makes leftists piss themselves and lay awake nights. And thats not even considering the rifles...
Posted by: sixgunsam at May 30, 2010 05:51 PM (peALJ)
If you ever wondered what 'side' the military would stand on in case TSHTF, look up the depression era Bonus Expeditionary Force - MacArthur, Eisenhower, and Patton seriously kicked some seditious ass.
Posted by: Druid at May 30, 2010 05:51 PM (Oe01r)
Posted by: fixerupper at May 30, 2010 05:51 PM (ffV1/)
Posted by: Mr. Gridley at May 30, 2010 05:51 PM (p5K6J)
Has anyone ever sprayed WD40 near a lighted match?
yes when i was a teen. it is a terrible idea. you have to be careful, because the flame might travel back to the can and blow up
Posted by: Ben at May 30, 2010 05:52 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: lanse42 at May 30, 2010 05:56 PM (Fo4E1)
Posted by: robotgossip at May 30, 2010 05:57 PM (EiH7n)
Posted by: Mr. Gridley at May 30, 2010 06:01 PM (p5K6J)
And The
AK-47 for when absolutely positively have to kill every single motherfucker in the room.
Posted by: sandbagger at May 30, 2010 06:04 PM (550T/)
Posted by: Pelayo at May 30, 2010 06:10 PM (CNNS6)
Posted by: Mystery Meat at May 30, 2010 06:16 PM (9AJat)
Posted by: TEE866 at May 30, 2010 06:21 PM (3okO/)
Posted by: vermin at May 30, 2010 06:23 PM (5TI5O)
The U.N. tries to project force here and its slaughterama, shooting fish in a barrell, end of story.
You know, you argue just like a Democrat lawyer I know, whereas you take a single quote or segment of an argument out of context, build a straw man, and then proceed to flail at it like a piñata.
Let me make this simple, point by point:
You're the one who brought it up and keep pursuing it.
I brought up the warning of such an event, not a championing of it. The fact that you are trying to tar me with stating something I haven't leads me to continue to pursue the argument. I have no problem with disagreement, but I would expect you not to misrepresent what I said.
Google is your friend and as being someone who really likes to have past history and precedent as the foundation of any argument you have failed to bring forth yours after I have brought forth mine.
Red herring, as I never postulated the success of UN forces. And I certainly never acted as their cheerleader. Wasn't it I who first pointed out their despicable record of raping their own flock?
Look I'm not trying to paint you as an enemy, the T-Dub reference was a low blow, I'll admit.
I appreciate that.
I just think you have way too much faith in a foreign and inept military force that would make Barney Fife look like John Rambo instead of good old American ingenuity and resolve.
Again, I never said I had faith in them, I was just warning of the possibility. And given the internationalist nature of the current administration, do you doubt that they'd try it?
The U.N. tries to project force here and its slaughterama, shooting fish in a barrell, end of story.
Again, I largely agree. But some of us would die, too. That should be a known result. What I was advocating in such an event was guerrilla warfare over frontal confrontation. I think the former is preferable, and the latter not at all. Whether superior or not, in a worst case scenario they would have the initial advantage of superior firepower. That could be overcome with proper tactics. But we need to be clear about what we'd face.
Look, I don't think we're really arguing differing positions. I'm just arguing for caution and prior preparation. Even given our intrinsically superior numbers, without coordination, the effect will be localized and limited to triggering events.
So, basically, I'm agreeing with you that I have more faith in our own than in whatever opposition may arise. But without a concerted and planned effort, our path would be quite difficult. In such an imaginary scenario - wherein the US military is not intact, at least domestically - invasion forces would have no difficulty entering major cities (just think about who runs and lives in them), but pushing out into flyover country will be much harder. That's were the real fight happens, and if they can achieve their footholds, then we'd be facing armor, artillery, and air support. I don't like those odds in a pitched battle. But I do like the odds of a coordinated guerrilla campaign.
Maybe I'm more Lee than Jackson or Forrest, but I'd like to think I'm a measured combination of them all, favoring aggressiveness and speed only when the proper positioning has been acheived.
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at May 30, 2010 06:25 PM (SgL5z)
Like I said, I think I'm getting too cynical. In reality, the odds are near impossible. Just to be clear I didn't mean that as any sort of indictment of the Navy. I was just tossing out the odd possibility of a top-down blackout.
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at May 30, 2010 06:29 PM (SgL5z)
Posted by: HopinIdon'tHaveTooButReady at May 30, 2010 06:34 PM (LutAc)
Depend on otherwise - M-1A, AR-15 HBAR, Remington 870
Have just for fun - Too numerous to list
Posted by: Andy at May 30, 2010 06:43 PM (NjN7i)
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Posted by: Alaska Paul at May 30, 2010 06:53 PM (T7yNK)
Posted by: trainer at May 30, 2010 06:56 PM (yCWYQ)
Posted by: heshtesh at May 30, 2010 06:58 PM (uwPpe)
Posted by: Corona at May 30, 2010 06:59 PM (woZIc)
Posted by: Milo at May 30, 2010 07:05 PM (Jqce/)
Bushmaster AR-15
Winchester Model 70 (made in 1953) in 30-06
Ruger 10-22
S&W 45
Mossberg 410 (wife's)
S&W Model 327 .38 (wife's)
Posted by: SaintGeorgeGentile at May 30, 2010 07:06 PM (/nNkJ)
Posted by: starman at May 30, 2010 07:11 PM (YXmkj)
Kimber Eclipse Ultra II for out and about
Remington 870 for un invited guests and liberals (actually that is repetitive isnt it?)
DPMS AR 15 when the time comes to "Reach out and touch someone!"
Ill turn my firearms oveer to the socialists ....ammo first!
PS. I gots lotsa ammo :-)
Posted by: NuckingFutz at May 30, 2010 07:14 PM (F+hn7)
Now you know why her arms are so toned.
Posted by: chemjeff at May 30, 2010 09:52 PM (Gk/wA)
And i suspect when she throws those HIPS she's going for lethal!!
Posted by: heshtesh at May 30, 2010 07:14 PM (uwPpe)
One of my old bosses was a green beret field captain during vietnam. He carried a suppressed .22 on missions. He loved it.
Posted by: Berserker at May 30, 2010 07:15 PM (gWHrG)
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Posted by: Willy at May 30, 2010 07:50 PM (/oYvI)
@David Gillies, 451.
.00 buck shot is actually not as effective, generally, as #1 buck shot. The reason is that you're only sacrificing .03 inches of pellet diameter and gaining a few more pellets per load. Consequently, you get a higher hit probability and equal or greater energy transfer to the target. Robert A. Rinker advises as much in Understanding Firearm Ballistics. Mind you, if you've already bought double-oughts and loaded them into your Remington (a fine choice, by the way) there's no need to swap them out. You won't have alot of people eager to jump in front of your shotgun.
Posted by: Big Mike at May 30, 2010 07:57 PM (gOXNh)
Posted by: Gerry Owen at May 30, 2010 07:57 PM (W7JkV)
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Posted by: Patrick at May 30, 2010 08:21 PM (ptHpp)
Bushmaster AR-15/M4 5.56 with Eotech sight and magnifier for home protection. Taurus 9mm semi pistol for carry. 1000 + rounds always on-hand for each.
OH yes, and several self-designed and built models of combustion cannons (propane or MAPP gas and air) of golfball caliber. A golfball coming at you at 700 fps is a hell of a thing!!
Here's a look: http://tinyurl.com/29fmfn2
Build details here, if you're interested... http://tinyurl.com/25gwjyd
Posted by: starman at May 30, 2010 08:23 PM (YXmkj)
Posted by: Milo at May 30, 2010 08:26 PM (Jqce/)
Posted by: mrp at May 30, 2010 08:32 PM (HjPtV)
Posted by: Conservative Phantom at May 30, 2010 08:53 PM (RNRhC)
@170: "would it be possible to get a smallish gun, but have some sort of Super Bullet that would make up for the small size of the gun?"
Get a .22 magnum. 42% 1-shot stop rate, small, cheap to shoot, muzzle blast isn't too bad for firing in a bedroom at night, etc. Not a bad gun all around.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 30, 2010 09:04 PM (8MuSQ)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 30, 2010 09:12 PM (9Lm5R)
Taurus 24/7 Pro C 9mm for CCW, Springfield XD .45 Tactical, 1911 .45 clone, Taurus 24/7 Pro DS 9mm, AR 15 Carbine, Winchester 1300 Defender 20 ga., Double Barrel 12 ga. Stoeger, AR 15 Match rifle, 45-70 Marlin 1895, Winchester .22, 20 ga single shot K-Mart special, and if there all else fails, SAA .45 revolver.
The CCW gun and the 20 gauge pump are usually the most handy and ready to use. The 1911 .45 clone will make a good shop / truck gun to have handy. The other 24/7 and the XD are for USPSA and 3 gun competitions
The .22 and single shot were the first firearms that I received from my father as a kid. I think the 20 gauge single was $35 from K-Mart in 1977 and is marked S.S. Kresge Company. As much as I like all the other guns I've owned over the years, I really like that quick and lightweight little 20ga. that Dad gave me all those years ago.
Practice. Join a club and shoot in competition. Get training from a good instructor. Learn from the guys with experience. You will perform the way you practice, and you have to think about the responsibility you are taking on when arming yourself.
I know most of my neighbors have weapons, all of my friends have weapons of some kind. I'm happy with that. I watch out for them and they watch out for me. We are 15 to 20 minutes response time for the Sheriff to get to our little town. If there is a problem, we have to handle it until help comes.
Posted by: Metalman at May 30, 2010 09:24 PM (90He6)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at May 30, 2010 09:25 PM (1k/48)
I'm also looking over something new: the ALFA. My brother picked up one of the 'Defender' models [the 3.5" barrel] and says it can shoot a 5" group at 8 meters, and goes for around $300. AND it's made from CZ parts [hence the accuracy].
I've also got an old Winchester 12GA pump, and a couple of '386' MAK 90's and a Finnish M39 in mint condition (and I was able to score Czech 'silver-tip' ammo for it).
As you can see, I go for accuracy over volume.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at May 30, 2010 09:26 PM (beW+t)
Ruger P60D 45 Cal. because shooting more than once is stupid. I actually have a variety, depends on the mood as to what I carry, but if I feel threatened, it is the Ruger.
I also have a Ruger .30 carbine revolver. Nice, powerful, but a little too large to conceal. Fun to shoot though.
Posted by: SirKnob at May 30, 2010 09:30 PM (YenHA)
Posted by: Ktnxbai at May 30, 2010 09:34 PM (qYca5)
Posted by: schizuki at May 30, 2010 09:40 PM (Xd9fe)
9mm/.380? Ptui!
40 or 45 AT MINIMUM. 7.62X39, preferrably 51.
12ga w/slugs--much more accurate than you realize, and will scoop a torso clean.
Remington, Sig, Ruger, or Springfield.
As to the UN argument (flicks lights on and off repeatedly) FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
And no, neither the majority of the military (well, the enlisteds at least) nor the lower ranking police forces will turn against the people. I speak from experience in both categories.
Posted by: Xenophon at May 30, 2010 09:43 PM (JjLRC)
@475: "A MkIII Browning High Power that stays with me practically everywhere. Since I'm in Calif., it's often unloaded in a lockbox, to stay legal. Pisses me off, but I'm not willing to violate the law."
You can carry a holstered, unloaded pistol in CA. Just carry your mags on one side, pistol on the other.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 30, 2010 09:47 PM (8MuSQ)
, it's cheaper than the later H&K that sprung from it, and because sometimes overkill is entirely necessary.
Glock 27, my usual carry weapon, because .40 get's the job done well, it's very small and light, it's dependable, no external safety so it's ready to go, and it's deadly accurate.
Springfield 1911, 5" barrel, with the lasermax integrated laser, because nothing ends a fight better than a 1911, and because we found in the Navy that laser pointers are more threatening than weapons (something we actually do have to thank Hollywood for). It's also, even at full size, a great concealed weapon.
Next on my purchase list (inspired by Governor Perry) is a snub-nose .38 Special +P rated. Either the ultra lightweight Ruger or the new Magnesium alloy Taurus, because 1) exercising is no excuse to not be ready for anything, and 2) .380 just won't cut it, in my opinion (cue any remaining caliber arguments that haven't yet started)Posted by: jtkerch79 at May 30, 2010 10:10 PM (wY0P0)
Posted by: jtkerch79 at May 30, 2010 10:34 PM (wY0P0)
For no time to choose, I have a Ruger mk lll .22 pistol in nightstand. For Long range I have a Sako Forester .243 with a Simmons scope. But I only have about 100 rounds of ammo for it.
For my bug-out bag I only have two weapons, a Remington International .22 WMR/.410 over & under and a customized Ruger 10/22 with a folding stock and a Aimpoint Micro sight system. I have six 25-round magazines for the 10/22. I have a box of #4 .410 shells (25) 5 rifled slugs. and 100 rounds of .22 WMR. Hopefully that will get me to Cherokee county, where I have several thousand rounds of .22 ammo (cheap) another 10/22, My Sako rifle, antibiotics, pot seeds, fishing equipment.. And lots of cover.
Seriously, .22 caliber weapons make perfect survival tools. You can spend a single paycheck and buy more ammo than you could probably use. .22 rounds could come in real handy for barter if shit goes bad. (so could weed). If you come at me with just a handgun on MY turf. I wouldn't even think about grabbing the .243. I will get you every time with my smallbore rifle. I'm more accurate, I have better range, and I can get off a lot more rounds a lot faster. For survival... a pistol is next to worthless. A weapon of last resort.
Posted by: Jimmie at May 30, 2010 10:37 PM (nZ0GK)
Posted by: heshtesh at May 30, 2010 10:59 PM (uwPpe)
Posted by: McHub532 at May 30, 2010 11:42 PM (ElWT7)
ammo
ammo
ammo
viva los 2nd Amendment com padres
in Memoriam to those who have gone before...
Posted by: JAM2 at May 30, 2010 11:56 PM (DCdSz)
Posted by: Moshe Ben Avram at May 31, 2010 12:42 AM (L9Iq+)
Browning HP, but the old dog is damn heavy.
Tarus stainless .38 daily carry, Federal PP's.
Judge Night Court by the bed, 1,.410 #4, 2,.410 #00, then the real stuff, .45 LC.
No Mr. Gubberment man, I got no guns, trust me.
Posted by: OpenTheDoor at May 31, 2010 01:57 AM (44Ops)
In the nightstand: Rebuilt Norinco 1911-A1 in .45 ACP.
On my hip: Wilson Combat Professional 1911, also in .45 ACP.
Posted by: fly at May 31, 2010 03:44 AM (0HQl1)
Posted by: billygoat at May 31, 2010 04:11 AM (5qJM5)
Posted by: TimInVirginia at May 31, 2010 04:15 AM (uhKua)
My husband would like an SA 80...but I would prefer to have Ma Duece sitting on top of my house (with maybe an optional set up in my truck).
As for reality: well, I guess my favorites are -- what I've got; because those are the only weapons that matter.
Posted by: unknown jane at May 31, 2010 04:40 AM (5/yRG)
Posted by: mueller at May 31, 2010 05:35 AM (8BaFI)
Posted by: MJ at May 31, 2010 05:41 AM (BKOsZ)
Posted by: Dr. Hingus J. Fingus at May 31, 2010 05:46 AM (bIz9X)
503 I'm a traditionalist and prefer a good old Louisville slugger (if it breaks it's still effective in a clubby and stabby kind of way).
Like Mueller, as a member of the SSLOL I can't concealed carry -- but if the shtf I highly doubt that will matter much. As I'm pretty well landlocked the carrier task force would be a silly choice -- maybe have the local NG and Air Guard units at my disposal; that would come in handy.
A cache of claymores certainly wouldn't hurt.
Posted by: unknown jane at May 31, 2010 05:54 AM (5/yRG)
Nothing beats a 30/30 winchester, Revolver, a six shot .357 magnum with at least a 4 inch barrel adj. sights for simplicity and safety.
In an auto pistol, a glock in 9 mm will do. Do not overlook the Markarov for cheap protection.
for CCW a S&W M640 in SS. .357 mag or .38 spl.
make sure your ammo is easy to find or manufacture.
Posted by: HEP-T at May 31, 2010 05:59 AM (0CcfR)
Posted by: Emile at May 31, 2010 06:29 AM (mUWt9)
Posted by: wildman at May 31, 2010 06:29 AM (AJ0mr)
My fave rifle is a Rossi replica of the 1892 Winchester in .357 Magnum. Not a long range package, but for any targets at ranges from 25 to 150 yards, it's handy and carries 10 rounds. If the targets are further out, I would go with my K31 Swiss straight-pull rifle in 7.5x55mm, but in a pinch I'm willing to go with my Garand. They're both sweet rifles, but the K31 narrowly beats out the Garand because it's stock trigger is better, and the Garand enbloc clips are a bit of a headache compared to magazines.
If we're talking handguns, a Ruger GP100 in .357 mag with a 6" heavy barrel is my "go to" gun. I'm also fond of a Makarov in 9x18, and an old Ortgies semiauto in .32 ACP. I know it's a mousegun, but the profile of the gun is seamlessly snagless, so if you can get over the whole "don't carry it with a round in the chamber because you shouldn't trust the sear" factor, it's a good low-recoil carry gun when you use Winchester silvertips.
Shotguns? I've got an old Montgomery Ward pumpgun that has had the barrel cut down to around 20". It's not as smooth of an action as my Remington 870, but it is handy.
Posted by: Russ from Winterset at May 31, 2010 06:48 AM (/MEFr)
you ladies and men with small hands take a look at short barrel rifle for home defence. When held properly it is barely longer than an extended arm with a handgun. I have a Puma 357 lever action that is fun to shoot, short barreled and of course shoots .38 or .357. Great little gun that even the wife can shoot without problems.
Posted by: texanadian at May 31, 2010 07:00 AM (zUiCZ)
I am an old geezer so I don't have any firearms (God's Truth) but I do have two #2 pencils. With my background and training, even an old geezer can parlay two #2's into anything up to and including an Abrams tank. The wartime OSS instructors left a lot of helpful hints if you knew where to look and had the right clearances.
However, my favorite weapon was a Remington Arms automatic rifle, made in 1944. It was not issued until 1957 - I took it out of the original wrapper myself when the Seventh Division went Pentomic and the number of automatic riflemen in a squad doubled. Finest shooting weapon I ever had - nice tight shot groups even on full automatic.
BTW, I keep the #2 pencils realy sharp.
Posted by: Longwalker at May 31, 2010 07:07 AM (1kwr2)
Posted by: EnemyoftheState at May 31, 2010 07:25 AM (LfARW)
I pack a .177 caliber Daisy Red Ryder Special. Its lever-action, spring piston, smooth bore barrel, with adjustable iron sights, and a 650 shot gravity feed magazine . It's heavily modified from the standard Daisy Red Ryder by the addition of an engraved stock, and a saddle ring with leather thong on the receiver. This fine piece of instant justice has can "Put some eyes out" or worse.
Yeah, I'm ready for the zombie apocalypse.
Posted by: Ralphie Parker at May 31, 2010 07:55 AM (WKprX)
Posted by: Bluedog803 at May 31, 2010 07:57 AM (8I9An)
I own a Beretta 92F and an IMI Baby Eagle, both in 9mm. I bought the Beretta when it first came out, so it wasn't available in .40 Smith. When I bought the Baby Eagle, I chose the 9mm so as to keep ammo simple. One day, I will trade them in for a .40.
For fun at the range, I also have a Desert Eagle in .357 magnum. It sounds like a cannon when it goes off. You don't carry a Desert Eagle, though.
I don't own a lot of ammo, but I do have some Golden Sabre and Black Talon in 9mm. And some .357 magnum FMJ. I'm sort of curious what the fully jacketed magnum would penetrate.
Posted by: Mike at May 31, 2010 08:19 AM (YXQhO)
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Posted by: tim at May 31, 2010 12:44 PM (cvyc2)
Wheelgun: my Ruger SP101 .357 revolver. Those Ruger revolvers freakin' rule; I like my Ruger even better than my Smith.
Posted by: Little Miss Attila at May 31, 2010 03:14 PM (saBHO)
Carry: Smith & Wesson M&P 9 compact or Smith Wesson air-weight J frame .357magnum, but loaded with .38 special +P depending upon dress.
For the Obamalypse: M-1Cized Garand in .30-06 with Nightforce scope.
Three AR-15s for myself, the wife, and son for close in work.
One mini-14 for the daughter
Posted by: Armageddon Rex at May 31, 2010 03:32 PM (43Xq6)
On the nightstand, a S&W J-frame Centennial .38 Special snubby with Crimson Trace lasergrips.
For my right hand while I use my left hand to transition to the shotgun standing beside my bed.
Mossberg 500 12 gauge. 20" inch barrel. All black. All American made.
With 8 rounds of 00 buck.
Beretta FS 92 Centurion in my computer/TV den. 15 rounds of Rem. Golden Sabre hollowpoints. And another 15 in the spare magazine. Within my reach right now.
Now, when I'm out and about in our Wilderness areas with my Lab mix, I carry a Ruger Superhawk Alaskan revolver in .454 Casull. That's a hand-cannon with a 2 1/2 inch barrel. Just in case a bear or lion decides to "bother" my dog.
All the rest of my arsenal is in my gun safe.
Well yes, of course I'm paranoid. Why do you ask ? {:^)
Posted by: DanP_from_AZ at May 31, 2010 05:25 PM (Rdpoo)
At the house: Two Mossberg 12 guage shotguns, one for me & one for Mrs. Darkmage.
For World War Z: One M4gery and a Steyr Scout in .308 for those reach-out-and-touch-someone occasions.
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