August 02, 2010
— Ace Playing with dynamite.
The United States once -- under a very different president* -- had an idea of how to deal with that kind of arrogant banditry.
He's been at the center of the discussions and controversies surrounding illegal immigration enforcement in Arizona for quite a while.On the day parts of Arizona's immigration law, SB 1070, went into effect, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio is in the news for another reason: there's a price on his head - allegedly offered by a Mexican drug cartel.
The audio message in Spanish is a bit garbled, but the text is clear.
"It's offering a million dollars for Sheriff Joe Arpaio's head and offering a thousand dollars for anyone who wants to join the Mexican cartel."
A man who wants to remain anonymous says his wife received the text message Tuesday evening. It also included an international phone number and instructions to pass the message along.
Were anything like that to even be attempted... well, nothing would happen exactly under President Apology Tour.
But after.
* Hah, I just realized -- Woodrow Wilson. Not really a "very different president" at all, in many respects, as Glenn Beck will tell you. But definitely was pretty free and easy about sending US troops into war.
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Posted by: toby928 at August 02, 2010 10:29 AM (8/oOq)
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 02, 2010 10:30 AM (R2fpr)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 02, 2010 10:30 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Cyril ven der Floot VII, BSc. at August 02, 2010 10:30 AM (e8YaH)
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Pro Debate Squad, And Summoner Of Meteors. at August 02, 2010 10:30 AM (eCAn3)
Posted by: Jim Clyburn at August 02, 2010 10:31 AM (xO+6C)
Posted by: toby928
So making them my friends on Facebook was a bad move? I shouldn't have sent them the free chickens for their farmville site?
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 02, 2010 10:31 AM (R2fpr)
Posted by: joncelli at August 02, 2010 10:31 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Cicero at August 02, 2010 10:32 AM (QKKT0)
Will we hear anything from Napolitano condeming this type of outrage? Or is she jumping for joy in her sweet DC office?
Posted by: soulpile at August 02, 2010 10:32 AM (gH+Hj)
Posted by: Comrade President Apology at August 02, 2010 10:34 AM (iwyZr)
DHS and the Cyber Czar would not lift a finger to help Maricopa County do anything but implode.
Who would put it past Soros to be backing such a thing?
Posted by: maverick muse at August 02, 2010 10:34 AM (H+LJc)
Posted by: Janet Napolitano at August 02, 2010 10:34 AM (8/oOq)
I wish Arizona would secede. They would have the full support of our country. In fact, it might be the defining moment that polarizes us and brings back a sense of decency and unity to this country.
Posted by: Something Wicked This Way Comes... at August 02, 2010 10:34 AM (Q8oid)
Posted by: Preznit Mongrel at August 02, 2010 10:35 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: joncelli at August 02, 2010 10:35 AM (RD7QR)
NSA can trace any fucking number in the world and a real threat like this would be traced immediately.
Calling Bull Shit.
Posted by: Kemp at August 02, 2010 10:35 AM (2+9Yx)
I'm holding a Mariachi band hostage and if anything happens to Arpaiao, the guy with the giant guitar gets it.
Posted by: Sen. John McCain, Rock Ribbed Conservative at August 02, 2010 10:35 AM (QKKT0)
Wilson also was almost certainly the most racist President of the 20th Century.
Posted by: NYCcon at August 02, 2010 10:36 AM (jLXdE)
Posted by: Al, the sex poodle at August 02, 2010 10:36 AM (2+9Yx)
Posted by: Janet Napolitano at August 02, 2010 10:36 AM (8/oOq)
Posted by: Jean at August 02, 2010 10:37 AM (XSlA+)
Posted by: maverick muse at August 02, 2010 10:37 AM (H+LJc)
Posted by: President The One You've Been Waiting For at August 02, 2010 10:37 AM (ERJIu)
Posted by: toby928 at August 02, 2010 02:29 PM (8/oOq)
Eh...these savages are more organized the Obumbles the great organizer and friends.
Posted by: dananjcon at August 02, 2010 10:37 AM (pr+up)
Posted by: Janet Napolitano at August 02, 2010 10:38 AM (8/oOq)
Posted by: JDFALCON IN VEGAS at August 02, 2010 10:38 AM (lPu+Z)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 02, 2010 10:38 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Janet Napolitano at August 02, 2010 10:38 AM (8/oOq)
I'm holding a Mariachi band hostage and if anything happens to Arpaiao, the guy with the giant guitar gets it.
Posted by: Sen. John McCain
Do that, and I might have to wreak my vengence.
Posted by: El Kabong at August 02, 2010 10:40 AM (R2fpr)
Posted by: Mr. Barky at August 02, 2010 10:40 AM (qwK3S)
Head Mongrel, I sort of like it.
Posted by: bill-tb at August 02, 2010 10:40 AM (y+QfZ)
Been there, done that.
http://tinyurl.com/35fokw7
Posted by: Winford Scott at August 02, 2010 10:41 AM (2+9Yx)
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 02, 2010 10:42 AM (R2fpr)
Well... it is where I got my start...
But listen here Men... its time for America to stand up to these thugs. Don't be afraid, because America is made up of Winners, and can't abide a loser.
Now, with the traitors we have in Washington, if you give me command I may have to attack in Both directions, but never fear, we will prevail.
Posted by: Gen. George Patton at August 02, 2010 10:42 AM (H+oXM)
Posted by: Janet Napolitano at August 02, 2010 10:43 AM (8/oOq)
NSA can trace any fucking number in the world and a real threat like this would be traced immediately.
Calling Bull Shit.
Well, couple of interesting wrinkles here. Ok, lets assume that the NSA, a federal government agency, decides it actually wants to involve itself in this mess. Gratned, that would be a first under the Obama administration, a federal government entity that would actually do their jobs when presented with something that involved illegal immigration, but lets just say they do - and yes, they trace the number. To a prepaid Mexican cell phone. Then what exactly?
Hell, this guy could have used his home phone number, and even if they did have an exact address, what exactly do you think the Federales are going to do with this information once the NSA turns it over? Rush over there and get themselves and their families killed? Or take more money from this drug lord to stay out of his backyard?
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at August 02, 2010 10:43 AM (e8T35)
Posted by: President Obama at August 02, 2010 10:43 AM (qwK3S)
Posted by: El Guapo at August 02, 2010 10:44 AM (QKKT0)
It isn't as if Sheriff Joe Arpaio is THAT successful apprehending the Mexican drug cartel members in Maricopa County. If that were the case, then Phoenix would NOT be the kidnap capital of America still.
This is more like Chicago calling. Even if it were Chicago calling from Mexico.
Since our Mexican War 1846-48, this would be a first, a Mexican activist putting a huge bounty on an American law enforcement officer.
Don't hold your breath waiting for the unengaged potus to respond with anything beyond glee.
Posted by: maverick muse at August 02, 2010 10:44 AM (H+LJc)
How likely is it, that being called a cajone-less MF'er by Sarah Palin, will make Obama over react if it should come to pass that Arpaio is attacked? I mean this is a lot more significant than the Breitbart video.
Posted by: Caspar, the friendly Weinberber at August 02, 2010 10:44 AM (rf1Kd)
Who cares about Arizona? They're racists, I tell you! And they don't even have a decent beach, like my place in the Hamptons. Wingnuts! They're afraid of brown people! Sarah Palin is making this stuff up! To cover up the fact Levi is the father of Trig!
Posted by: Joy Behar at August 02, 2010 10:46 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 02, 2010 10:46 AM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: Glenn who hates Woodrow more than he hates anyone else. at August 02, 2010 10:46 AM (0q2P7)
If they want to 6take him out they'll have to do it with an assassination team.
As for sending Blackjack Pershing into Mexico after Pancho Villa, that was after he had actually invaded the U.S. and took over a town.
And even then, they did not accomplish a whole lot.
Posted by: Vic at August 02, 2010 10:46 AM (/jbAw)
Hey you gonna eat all those fries?
Posted by: Something Wicked This Way Comes... at August 02, 2010 10:47 AM (Q8oid)
Posted by: The NSA at August 02, 2010 10:47 AM (oIp16)
Do you really think O gives a rats ass about the well being Arpaio? On the other hand the sheriff's untimely demise would certainly cement Nappy and O's fate.
Posted by: dananjcon at August 02, 2010 10:48 AM (pr+up)
Chicago is an international call now?
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 02, 2010 10:49 AM (5aa4z)
Badges?
http://tinyurl.com/ynkfll
Posted by: Kemp at August 02, 2010 02:44 PM (2+9Yx)
thanks Kemp...the office here is giggleing.
hehe.
Posted by: dananjcon at August 02, 2010 10:51 AM (pr+up)
Posted by: President Barry Soetoro, citizen of the world at August 02, 2010 10:54 AM (w9BEi)
Posted by: NYCcon at August 02, 2010 10:54 AM (jLXdE)
This will have to get far worse before it gets better. I wait patiently.
Posted by: Something Wicked This Way Comes... at August 02, 2010 10:54 AM (Q8oid)
Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 02, 2010 10:55 AM (Qp4DT)
This is not funny. At all.
An American citizen, one tasked with defending our laws, is threatened by a bunch of foreign thugs. Unfortunately, we have a government that doesn't give a shit.
Any president, attorney general or director of homeland "security" who really meant what they said when they took the oath of office would be on to the Mexican government, loudly and publicly, advising them that this is their problem, and that we will take serious -- and for Mexico -- unpleasant steps if Sheriff Arpaio gets so much as a headache.
This is a serious situation. Jokes are inappropriate.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 02, 2010 02:28 PM
You have it right, Jane. Impeachment and arrest of the Traitor-in-Chief and every member of his regime even remotely involved is in order if anything at all happens on this front and the government responds in the Osama Obama do-nothing-talk-big tradition.
Posted by: MrScribbler at August 02, 2010 10:56 AM (Ulu3i)
LOL, the last time Sheriff Joe sent his folks out in the desert he sent them with a jeep-mounted MA-Deuce.
Ahh.. when you care enough to send the very best. Nothing quite like a 500 round per minute shower .50 Caliber to say, "Welcome to America".
<sniffle> Ok.. have to stop now, I'm getting choked up.
Lol..
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at August 02, 2010 10:56 AM (e8T35)
Chicago is an international call now?
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 02, 2010 02:49 PM (5aa4z)
For burritos, dial 1
For spanish fly, dial 2
For career oppotunities in an ultra violent drug cartel, dial 3
For cajones, dial 4
Posted by: dananjcon at August 02, 2010 10:57 AM (pr+up)
Posted by: Hampton's Redshirt at August 02, 2010 11:03 AM (MTIUi)
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at August 02, 2010 11:04 AM (cFYLs)
Posted by: Obama could be this country's first dictator (with your acquiescence) at August 02, 2010 11:05 AM (sYrWB)
Posted by: ChicagoJedi at August 02, 2010 11:07 AM (WZFkG)
so Joe as 2 enemies ... the Cartel and Obama ... seems fitting ... the enemy of my enemy is my friend ?
I guess that's not fair because the Cartel hates Joe because he is effective and Obama hates Joe because ... oh wait, same reason ...
Wasn't there a line item in the Stimulus for bounties on unruly sheriffs ?
Posted by: Jeff at August 02, 2010 11:07 AM (A3tpD)
This is a serious situation. Jokes are inappropriate.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 02, 2010 02:28 PM
Forgive us Jane, its just our coping mechanism kicking...tears of a clown and all that.
Posted by: dananjcon at August 02, 2010 11:08 AM (pr+up)
Hell, it works for the Jihadists. Why not the Cartels, too? Pretty soon Cub Scouts and Brownies will hold bake sales to raise money for head bounties.
Someday, in the future, everyone will be a terrorist for 15 minutes.
Posted by: The Barbed Cock of Satan at August 02, 2010 11:08 AM (YMZjg)
Posted by: t-bird at August 02, 2010 11:09 AM (ItKW+)
Posted by: Janet Napolitano at August 02, 2010 11:09 AM (8/oOq)
Posted by: Vic
They certainly gave Pancho hell. That WAS a whole lot, because Pancho ended up murdered by Mexicans for having brought Pershing's Army into Mexico on the chase.
Villa was a very sore loser, having lost his bid to rule Mexico, after NOT gaining Wilson's endorsement. His destruction of the New Mexican trade town (and raids all along the Arizona/New Mexican borders) was supposed to show the potus that Wilson had endorsed the wrong guy.
Posted by: maverick muse at August 02, 2010 11:11 AM (H+LJc)
Ya eat re fried beans, you get it. Your from AZ you know this shit, so to speak.
Posted by: Kemp at August 02, 2010 11:13 AM (2+9Yx)
Posted by: tour guide at August 02, 2010 11:14 AM (p302b)
It's pretty much turned into Somalia, and no one is reporting it.
Wonder if that has to do with the super secret squirrel memo about bypassing congress to grant amnesty?
Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at August 02, 2010 11:15 AM (DQLZt)
I've always wondered about the Swiss bank accounts of Sanctuary City Council members, myself.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 02, 2010 11:15 AM (5aa4z)
LOL, the last time Sheriff Joe sent his folks out in the desert he sent them with a jeep-mounted MA-Deuce.
You know what this means, Vic: for the moment anyway, he is.... The Most Interesting Man In the World.
Posted by: Bill H at August 02, 2010 11:17 AM (q8CmE)
Posted by: Joy Behar
According to AZ Rep. Harry Mitchell, the Gadsen Purchase survey was screwed by a crew that ran out of whiskey on the parallel that would have taken them to the Baja for an Arizona port. They unanimously agreed that no one wanted that god forsaken desert land, and headed straight for Yuma instead.
Posted by: maverick muse at August 02, 2010 11:18 AM (H+LJc)
* Hah, I just realized -- Woodrow Wilson. Not really a "very different president" at all, in many respects, as Glenn Beck will tell you. But definitely was pretty free and easy about sending US troops into war.
Free and easy, baby! Let the Free Love flow!
Posted by: Willy Wilson at August 02, 2010 11:20 AM (gbCNS)
Posted by: ChicagoJedi at August 02, 2010 11:21 AM (WZFkG)
Always wondered about that stupid curve in in the state line down by Yuma.
Now I know, and knowing is 5/10ths of the battle.
Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at August 02, 2010 11:22 AM (DQLZt)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 02, 2010 02:30 PM (UOM4
Now there's a reality show I would watch.
Posted by: Tami at August 02, 2010 11:23 AM (VuLos)
Posted by: maddogg at August 02, 2010 11:24 AM (OlN4e)
I recall back after the 1994 elections when I realized that the new GOP House was going to get rolled every time and wasn't going to accomplish one damn thing of importance. Back then there was a big debate over whether to remove Mexico as Most-Favored-Nation trading status over their refusal to do anything about the flow of drugs. Many Rs were against renewal and public sentiment was generally favorable toward non-renewal but Clinton was for it.
And really, in the grand scheme of things, not one damn voter would care either way so the GOP would have been free to yank the status and the base would have been happy for a blow in the drug war. And, it was actually a club we could have used to at least get the Mexicans to do something with long-term benefits that would be paying dividends today.
But, like usual, the GOP collapsed like a cheap chair. For nothing: Not a promise, not a wink, not a pinkie-swear, not even a "we'll talk more later"--Nothing. So, when the budget shut-down came there was no question who was going to fold.
Posted by: jimmuy at August 02, 2010 11:24 AM (66ScL)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 02, 2010 11:25 AM (5aa4z)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 02, 2010 02:28 PM
You have it right, Jane. Impeachment and arrest of the Traitor-in-Chief and every member of his regime even remotely involved is in order if anything at all happens on this front and the government responds in the Osama Obama do-nothing-talk-big tradition.
Posted by: MrScribbler
I agree except to say BEFORE rather than "if anything at all happens".
As a nation of states, we must defy the federal Marxism dissolving our Constitutional Governance from Washington. We have the Constitution on our side. There is no point giving in to dhimmitude because we are being told to take the abuse from Washington.
Davidsbundler vs. the uncircumcised Philistines
Posted by: maverick muse at August 02, 2010 11:36 AM (H+LJc)
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 02, 2010 11:41 AM (xxgag)
Posted by: tour guide at August 02, 2010 11:44 AM (p302b)
SE Tucson hosts an Air Force Base that does nothing to combat the drug lord forts in the SW hills above town.
Even the military intelligence base is not secure in Arizona.
"The most frightening part of this is that Fort Huachuca is the U.S. Army Intelligence Center, where the Army trains its intelligence soldiers -- analysts, interrogators, radio intercept specialists, and counterintelligence agents -- for operations overseas. If we can't secure the fort we use to train our intelligence soldiers, how can we secure anything else?"--T.J. Woodard is a retired Army officer who lives less than ten miles from the Mexican border. He carries a pistol even in his own house in order to be prepared to defend his family whenever necessary.
Posted by: maverick muse at August 02, 2010 11:45 AM (H+LJc)
In response to this, Comrade Zero will immediately begin an brand new Apology Tour. Call Sheriff Joe stupid, then call a beer summit to get some great photos.
If The Three Stooges were President, we would be better off.
Posted by: maddogg at August 02, 2010 11:45 AM (OlN4e)
What Jane D'oh said was that she feels Osama Obama is responsible if anything happens to Arpaio.
I was agreeing with her and being critical of following comments that made jokes about the situation.
Don't know if she agrees with my conclusions, so wanted to clear that up.
But, on reflection I stand by what I said: if we had real Americans running the Traitor-in-Chief's regime, they would tell Mexico (and its little tin-pot president) to straighten up NOW, before we are forced to make their lives more miserable than they are.
Anything less is a violation of the oath of office all our "leaders" took. And that in turn is grounds for removal from office and criminal prosecution.
Posted by: MrScribbler at August 02, 2010 11:47 AM (Ulu3i)
Posted by: Lefty McMoonbat at August 02, 2010 11:48 AM (U6MtO)
Posted by: real joe at August 02, 2010 11:50 AM (IpIBJ)
beginning to wonder what is going on....remember when the mexican president came here and had the unmitigated gaul to give Americans a sermon...what was that like a couple of months ago?
Posted by: tour guide at August 02, 2010 11:51 AM (p302b)
Posted by: WalrusRex
The Army quartered with Mexican Colonials. It wasn't "killing Mexicans" unless caught with Pancho Villa.
Our Army had to follow Wilson's rules of engagement that prohibited any civilian deaths or entanglements with the opposing Mexican Revolutionary besting Villa. Intelligence was lacking then, as our military did not yet boast many Hispanic soldiers or Spanish speaking Gringos. The Army returned home after bad intelligence and an "unfortunate" incident attacking Wilson's revolutionary choice.
Posted by: maverick muse at August 02, 2010 11:53 AM (H+LJc)
Posted by: tour guide at August 02, 2010 11:58 AM (p302b)
one more thing ... whoops, gotta go! My sister's home and she'll kill me if she finds out I'm wearing her ballerina shoes.
Posted by: Person of Stupid at August 02, 2010 11:59 AM (I+7Zv)
Posted by: Rickshaw Jack
we take Baja in retribution. Give it to AZ. Posted by: ChicagoJedi
We won it, and then paid for it...possession being 9/10ths of the law.
Posted by: maverick muse at August 02, 2010 11:59 AM (H+LJc)
Rendel is going to defend the administration. Wasn't he recently criticizing them, probably at the behest of the hillbilly group, guess this is his redemption with BO and co?
Posted by: tour guide at August 02, 2010 12:00 PM (p302b)
Posted by: ChicagoJedi at August 02, 2010 12:03 PM (WZFkG)
Posted by: crenny dane at August 02, 2010 12:07 PM (U6MtO)
Posted by: Zombie Bob Crane at August 02, 2010 12:13 PM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Woodrow F. Call at August 02, 2010 12:14 PM (8g9qq)
I don't see a lot of humor in this type of threat either, but I also understand that when the outrageous becomes everyday news with this administration, sometimes you have to laugh so you don't go crazy.
So what do you think Obama will do with this coming on the heels of Mexico's President coming here and lecturing us? Apologize to the cartel for the US being provocative and advise everyone to tone down the rhetoric?
Posted by: RM at August 02, 2010 12:17 PM (TRsME)
So they do get a National Championship!
http://tinyurl.com/38kk74c
Posted by: Vic at August 02, 2010 12:29 PM (/jbAw)
Posted by: Goldi at August 02, 2010 12:32 PM (rsOPT)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at August 02, 2010 12:41 PM (cwgDp)
Posted by: Lucky Day at August 02, 2010 12:47 PM (R2fpr)
Posted by: Vic at August 02, 2010 12:48 PM (/jbAw)
Re: Mexican cartels - here is an after action report on the 7-16 shootout just over the border.
Be forewarned - includes a pretty nasty picture of what 7.62x39mm rounds do to a human head.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at August 02, 2010 01:36 PM (ySNz/)
@31: "Napolitano and Kagen probably have this huge marital aid that they share. It will need new battries by tomorrow."
The Scissor Summit?
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at August 02, 2010 01:39 PM (ySNz/)
As a result, in April 1917, when we found ourselves at war with Germany, good old Mr Wilson called for a two million man army. Unfortunately, we would only be able to arm about less than 1/2 million with the Springfield '03 rifle. Fortunately the Brits had completed their rifle contracts with Remington and Winchester. So the majority of Doughboys went to war with the Model of 1917. The Brit P14, chambered in 30-06.
Nice planning there Woodrow. Ya dipshit!
Posted by: GarandFan at August 02, 2010 01:45 PM (XaWFq)
The story concerned Mexican consular officials prowling in New York to make sure their peeps aren't being discriminated against by the Eeeeeevil Gringos.
Naturally, that didn't draw any attention from Osama Obama and the rest of the third-world-loving lickspittles in his regime.
If he was around today, Theodore Roosevelt would have sent kick-ass Marines into Mexico and settled the drug cartels' hash on the spot. They might have done a number on Calderon, too, but hey, TR was just a big, impulsive kid.
Posted by: MrScribbler at August 02, 2010 01:47 PM (Ulu3i)
A cool million for the head of Joe Arpaio?
Kick it in to gear Gabe, this is all you!
http://tinyurl.com/28m6c2m
Posted by: sartana at August 02, 2010 01:47 PM (nak8P)
Posted by: sonnyspats at August 02, 2010 02:06 PM (2DxKT)
Under some circumstances, Arizona can constitutionally go to war with Mexico by itself.
Just saying.
Posted by: Steny Hoyer at August 02, 2010 02:08 PM (epBek)
Posted by: UGAdawg at August 02, 2010 02:41 PM (/VjHB)
Posted by: Kemp at August 02, 2010 02:35 PM (2+9Yx)
I do wonder why on earth the cartels would want Arpaio's head that bad. Has he cut their operations that much?
Posted by: arhooley at August 02, 2010 04:03 PM (6GjHP)
You've seen Enemy of the State too many times. I can go down to WalMart and pay cash for a pay-as-you-go phone, use it once, and toss it in the river.
Posted by: slug at August 02, 2010 04:23 PM (DkJNu)
Posted by: Only a lunatic or an imbecile would take such a contract at August 02, 2010 04:41 PM (sYrWB)
Posted by: william wilson at August 02, 2010 05:40 PM (M+OJB)
Posted by: Glib Tunafist at August 02, 2010 06:11 PM (OFn24)
Nothing a 'beer summit' with the president won't fix. As long as the world gets to see Obama bows to the 'drug lord'.
Win - win. /
Posted by: always right at August 03, 2010 07:40 AM (UzjcV)
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