April 27, 2010

Mexico Is A Dangerous Place...First In An Occasional Series
— DrewM

Mexico's Ambassador to the United States announced today that his government issued a travel advisory to Mexicans saying they should avoid traveling to Arizona. It seems the Mexican government, despite its own stringent immigration laws, thinks expecting Mexicans in the US to follow US law is tantamount to harassment.

This got me thinking that perhaps we should focus on some of the dangers Americans face when traveling to Mexico. According to a warning issued by on April 12th, the US State Department, there are quite a few things much scarier than 'harassment' to worry about.

Recent violent attacks have prompted the U.S. Embassy to urge U.S. citizens to delay unnecessary travel to parts of Durango, Coahuila and Chihuahua states (see details below) and advise U.S. citizens residing or traveling in those areas to exercise extreme caution. Drug cartels and associated criminal elements have retaliated violently against individuals who speak out against them or whom they otherwise view as a threat to their organizations. These attacks include the abduction and murder of two resident U.S. citizens in Chihuahua.

...Criminals have followed and harassed U.S. citizens traveling in their vehicles in border areas including Nuevo Laredo, Matamoros, and Tijuana. Travelers on the highways between Monterrey and other parts of Mexico to the United States (notably through Nuevo Laredo and Matamoros) have been targeted for robbery and violence and have also inadvertently been caught in incidents of gunfire between criminals and Mexican law enforcement. Such incidents are more likely to occur at night but may occur at any time.

...In recent years, dozens of U.S. citizens living in Mexico have been kidnapped and most of their cases remain unsolved. U.S. citizens who believe they are being targeted for kidnapping or other crimes should notify Mexican law enforcement officials and the U.S. Embassy in Mexico City or the nearest U.S. consulate as soon as possible. Any U.S. visitor who suspects they are a target should consider returning to the United States immediately. U.S. citizens should be aware that many cases of violent crime are never resolved by Mexican law enforcement, and the U.S. government has no authority to investigate crimes committed in Mexico.

...During demonstrations or law enforcement operations, U.S. citizens are advised to remain in their homes or hotels, avoid large crowds, and avoid the downtown and surrounding areas. Since the timing and routes of scheduled marches and demonstrations are always subject to change, U.S. citizens should monitor local media sources for new developments and exercise extreme caution while within the vicinity of protests.

Wow, sounds like a nice country. If you are thinking of vacationing anytime soon, I'd stay away from a dangerous place like Mexico and consider...Arizona. Sedona is lovely.

As I said, this will be an occasional series. If you see any interesting stories about the dangers of Mexico, send them to me at Dangersinmexico at Gmail (dot) com.

Posted by: DrewM at 02:59 PM | Comments (134)
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1 If you see any interesting stories about the dangers of Mexico,

Including the water quality?

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 27, 2010 03:01 PM (8f41V)

2 They have really crappy Mexican food in Mexico.  It doesn't taste anything like Taco  Bell....

Posted by: Adriane at April 27, 2010 03:02 PM (mXBw3)

3 If mexicans should avoid traveling to Arizona, maybe Mexico should consider building a wall on their side to prevent their citizens from getting themselves into such a predicament?

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 27, 2010 03:02 PM (0GFWk)

4 Sedona is lovely.

Sedona is a hippie Mecca. Make sure you pack a
beating stick and some Zantac.

Posted by: Barbarian at April 27, 2010 03:03 PM (EL+OC)

5 Raaaaaaaaacist.

Posted by: alexthechick at April 27, 2010 03:04 PM (6Cojl)

6 U.S. citizens who believe they are being targeted for kidnapping or other crimes should notify Mexican law enforcement officials and the U.S. Embassy in Mexico City or the nearest U.S. consulate as soon as possible. Honestly, what is the Embassy going to do about this, send a strongly worded letter?

Posted by: mokimoki at April 27, 2010 03:04 PM (IrV7s)

7 It's true - if you visit Phoenix you need to watch out... for all of the speed cameras.

Posted by: mongo78 at April 27, 2010 03:05 PM (2b46R)

8

Hahaha, I love this!

So true, so true.

Meeeheeecoooo is a literal shit hole.

Other than the one year I went in college to Senor Frogs Cancun, I have no desire to ever go back to that wasteland again.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 27, 2010 03:05 PM (mVpDf)

9 I love Sedona and will plan on taking a weekend trip there in the near future.

The lefty reaction to this law, while predictable, is driving me batty. These people truly do not get it. I wish I could deport them all to Central America and see how far they make it into Mexico's southern border.

Posted by: Rum, Bitch Goddess of the Universe at April 27, 2010 03:05 PM (gofDd)

10 A "donkey show" is not for kids.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at April 27, 2010 03:06 PM (I1/U/)

11 And my favorite is the horror that a state is asserting its own rights under the law. Someone tool on the radio said something like, "If other states pass laws like this, then it'll be a nation of separate states!"

Guess the guy has never picked up an actual history book not written by Howard Zinn.

Posted by: Rum, Bitch Goddess of the Universe at April 27, 2010 03:07 PM (gofDd)

12

Flagstaff and Cottonwood Canyon are lovely as well.

Also, the Biscuit. (Prescott)

all have great riding opportunities, too.

Posted by: garrett at April 27, 2010 03:07 PM (cK2QX)

13 That's too bad.  I visited Matamoros when I was a kid.  Not the most beautiful city, but the stores were great.

My most vivid memory was watching college kids literally fill the beds of trucks with cases of tequila and Corona to take back over the border. 

Posted by: Slublog at April 27, 2010 03:08 PM (TGj44)

14 Let's not forget the attack on personnel associated with the U.S. Consulate in Juarez not long ago. An FSO—4 months pregnant at the time—and her husband were gunned down in their car leaving a toddler's birthday party. Both were killed. Thank God their 7 month old in the backseat of the car was unharmed... A Mexican national who had worked for the consulate for 13 years was killed in the same attack, all while his wife begged the attackers to stop shooting. Usually when FSOs get killed in violent attacks it's places like Yemen, Sudan, or Pakistan. Now you can add Juarez to the list.

Posted by: Guy in Utah at April 27, 2010 03:08 PM (AaQ2F)

15

Remember, ice is made out of water. Stick to drinks that are boiled. And preferable bottled in a country with hygine.

It's sad when Italians say, "Dude, that place has crappy water." (Except in Italianese, obviously.)

Posted by: The Atom Bomb of Loving Kindness at April 27, 2010 03:08 PM (Pl6My)

16

Do us all a favor, avoid the entire stinking country of the Untited States.  Stay home in your wonderful, peaceful, tranquill, lawful, shithole.

Posted by: Sparky at April 27, 2010 03:08 PM (r0u40)

17 3 words:

Strip club. Trannies. Watch out.

Ok. That was 5 words. Now it's 10. Wait...oh to hell with it.

Posted by: Navin R Johnson at April 27, 2010 03:09 PM (HpT9p)

18 If you simply must see a woman copulate with a donkey on your next vacation, may I suggest sneaking into Mexico to avoid the Tourist Tariffs.

Posted by: garrett at April 27, 2010 03:09 PM (cK2QX)

19 Arizona could kick Mexico's ass.

Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at April 27, 2010 03:09 PM (dQdrY)

20 People still tell stories about "La noche del Pumahombre que Sodomiza".

Posted by: Cincinnatus at April 27, 2010 03:09 PM (euuyg)

21 I wonder what travel advisory do they issue for all the murder and mayhem caused by the drug cartels? Oops sorry, they pay off the commie overlords don't they.

Do they tell people that the Mexican drug cartels run the trafficking in people, and if you agree to transport the dope, you get the free ride to the USA?

Did you know the world's second highest kidnapping rate is in Phoenix Arizona?

Posted by: bill-tb at April 27, 2010 03:10 PM (y+QfZ)

22

Only a moron would watch some female on donkey hot lovin.

Ick factor x's 10 on that one.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 27, 2010 03:11 PM (mVpDf)

23 My father visited Mexico city a few years ago. He parked at the border and took a bus. It was well known that driving alone on a highway with US plates was a risky venture.

Posted by: fluffy at April 27, 2010 03:11 PM (4Kl5M)

24 Fucking Mexican bitch broke my heart in '01.

Posted by: nine coconuts at April 27, 2010 03:12 PM (DHNp4)

25 And my favorite is the horror that a state is asserting its own rights under the law. Someone tool on the radio said something like, "If other states pass laws like this, then it'll be a nation of separate states!" Rum BGctU(I like your new nic), nobody studies real American history these days. Virtually all of the textbooks reflect the Zinn point of view. Even the homeschool American history text we used was liberal-we just did research and found out what really happened-but nobody seems to have time to do that with their kids who are in public school. So to answer your question, the idiots screaming about this really DON'T understand that individual states have the right to make laws concerning their internal security. (that pesky 10th amendment-who really needs that now?)/

Posted by: mokimoki at April 27, 2010 03:12 PM (IrV7s)

26 Not only is it lovely, but Sedona is only a couple hours from world-famous Gunsite Academy.

Posted by: goy at April 27, 2010 03:14 PM (+Gze8)

27 F ___ Mexico

Posted by: IE COn at April 27, 2010 03:15 PM (/COcn)

28 Good Lord, not Sedona! Sure, it's pretty, but it's also fruitcake central. If you want to get your chakras aligned, by all means, head to Sedona. Me? I prefer Cañon de Chelly http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canyon_de_Chelly_National_Monument over Sedona. And for a true conservative vacation, head to Gunsite, ground zero for modern defensive pistol instruction.

Posted by: ExUrbanKevin at April 27, 2010 03:16 PM (toqoX)

29 Only a moron would watch some female on donkey hot lovin.

Hey, give us some credit around here.

Posted by: morons at April 27, 2010 03:16 PM (d88g9)

30 I was like the only guy there with a job, and they fucked with me.

Posted by: Dog, the Bounty Hunter at April 27, 2010 03:16 PM (Zi+FQ)

31 My very best friend lives with her husband in a house on a spectacular cliff overlooking the sea on the East Cape of Baja.  They've recently purchased a home in the States, because of crime and kidnappings.  D'oh and I (and years ago D'oh Boy) have spent some amazing times there.  She told me last week they've hired a security guard for there community, and shortly after, his brother was kidnapped.

She wants me to come visit soon, but I'm saving my pennies to visit D'oh Boy at his post before he is sent to the 'stan by the Pussy-in-Chief.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 27, 2010 03:16 PM (UOM48)

32 A friend of mine has been renting her house out here for the past five years and living in Mexico ... she just called her renters and told them she will be moving back to the states ... she is afraid as an American to continue living in Mexico ... who could blame her ...

Posted by: jackson at April 27, 2010 03:17 PM (1MAZb)

33

U.S. citizens who believe they are being targeted for kidnapping or other crimes should notify Mexican law enforcement officials and the U.S. Embassy in Mexico City or the nearest U.S. consulate as soon as possible.

Wouldn't you probably not know that until it happens? Or do the criminals in Mexico send politely worded letters or leave voicemails before they carry out their acts?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 27, 2010 03:17 PM (RZ8pf)

34 In all seriousness, if I girl just wants to relax for a few days and  do a spa weekend, what's the best place in AZ??

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 27, 2010 03:17 PM (mVpDf)

35

Fucking Mexican bitch broke my heart in '01.

Awwww.  Here ya' go.

Posted by: garrett at April 27, 2010 03:17 PM (cK2QX)

36 Sent ya the story about UT recalling staff and students from northern Mexico because of escalating violence.

And Flagstaff is my favorite part of AZ. Actually considered moving there once upon a time. May be time to reconsider it.

Posted by: mpur in Texas at April 27, 2010 03:18 PM (iBTj9)

37 33 - lacey ... Canyon Ranch, Tucson, AZ ... perfect spa experience ...

Posted by: jackson at April 27, 2010 03:18 PM (1MAZb)

38 It would be nice if the Mexican govt issued a travel advisory to their citizens telling them to stay the fuck out of the US.

Posted by: The Great Satan™ at April 27, 2010 03:18 PM (C5Q8p)

39 (that pesky 10th amendment-who really needs that now?)/

That was my exact thought when I heard the guy screeching about it. The 10th Amendment is an all important one - which is also why it's part of the Bill of Rights!

But you're right. No one knows history anymore and all they do learn is revisionist.

I'm also beyond livid/outraged/insanely pissed that Attorney General of the US Holder and his DOJ is thinking of filing suit. While I'm not surprised, I am absolutely livid that the Attorney General of this country won't even fight for the country or a state of this country's sovereignty.

P.S. The nick was going to be temporary, but it's growing on me.

Posted by: Rum, Bitch Goddess of the Universe at April 27, 2010 03:18 PM (gofDd)

40

In all seriousness, if I girl just wants to relax for a few days and  do a spa weekend, what's the best place in AZ??

Ventana Canyon in Tucson is a Good Bet.

 

Posted by: garrett at April 27, 2010 03:19 PM (cK2QX)

41
I know a woman whose Mexican uncle was kidnapped. The woman's mother (who lives in Mexico) and her family came up with the $20K to ransom him. A month later the gang kidnapped the mother's next door neighbor. The mother thought they were really targeting her and screwed up the address. She fled her home that day and has been hiding in a hotel in Mexico City for 5 months. Mexico is a lawless shit hole.

Posted by: Atomic Roach at April 27, 2010 03:19 PM (Oxen1)

42 There's also Canyon Ranch...

Posted by: garrett at April 27, 2010 03:20 PM (cK2QX)

43 In all seriousness, if I girl just wants to relax for a few days and  do a spa weekend, what's the best place in AZ??

lacey, there were quite a few spas in Sedona. Ok, even if it's hippie central, hippies do like their spa time. Last time I was driving through I told myself I have to go back for a weekend so I could have more time to explore.

...do I sense another Moronette Weekend?

Posted by: Rum, Bitch Goddess of the Universe at April 27, 2010 03:21 PM (gofDd)

44 Miraval. But it is kind of new agey.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 27, 2010 03:21 PM (RZ8pf)

45 ...Attorney General of the US Holder and his DOJ is thinking of filing suit...

I'm thinking that might not turn out the way they expect.  (Maybe especially after O pissed off SCOTUS at the SOTU.)

P.S. The nick was going to be temporary, but it's growing on me.

I like it.  Keep it.

Posted by: morons at April 27, 2010 03:21 PM (d88g9)

46

Canyon Ranch, Tucson, AZ

Hmm, I'm seeing "nutrition" on their menu. There's lots of tofu listed on that lunch menu. I don't want one of those places

It does look quite relaxing though.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 27, 2010 03:22 PM (mVpDf)

47

Awwww.  Here ya' go.

Posted by: garrett

I felt more along the lines of this (skip to 1:50)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzMQEZLjZlk&feature=related

Posted by: nine coconuts at April 27, 2010 03:23 PM (DHNp4)

48 I'm also beyond livid/outraged/insanely pissed that Attorney General of the US Holder and his DOJ is thinking of filing suit. While I'm not surprised, I am absolutely livid that the Attorney General of this country won't even fight for the country or a state of this country's sovereignty. I don't think he cares. He doesn't like America the way it is. I don't know what utopia they think they are creating, but don't you think they could see the spring/summer/sure-to-be- fall of discontent growing? Oh, wait, they are just redneck, bible clinging teabaggers. Keep the nic-it's you!

Posted by: mokimoki at April 27, 2010 03:25 PM (IrV7s)

49

relax?

there's like a hundred and fifty miles of Singletrack right outside of town!  How can a guy relax with all that trail to ride????

Posted by: garrett at April 27, 2010 03:25 PM (cK2QX)

50 Ya gotta love Eric Holder.  The stupid douche lets baton wielding Black Panthers who threatened voters get off without a slap on the wrist.  "You crackers will know what it's like to be under the rule of the Black man!"

Arizona?  Trying to do for its citizens what Barry and his merry band of thieves, liars and other pranksters won't do.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 27, 2010 03:25 PM (UOM48)

51

I would totally do that, Rum!

Sounds like my kind of weekend.

That VC resort looks incredible btw.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 27, 2010 03:25 PM (mVpDf)

52

Well, I agree with Mexico.

Mexicans should avoid going to Arizona. In particular illegal alien Mexicans.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 27, 2010 03:26 PM (P33XN)

53

I spent some quality time in Juarez in October 2007, during which I narrowly escaped severe bodily harm. A few months later all hell broke loose there, courtesy the Sinaloa cartel. A couple of the people I wrote about in that story (members of Los Centauros) were among the 2000 people murdered in Juarez in 2008. Today I wouldn't go 5 blocks into that town.

Ciudad de Juarez fun fact: besides being the murder capital of North America, it is also the home of the world's largest Krispy Kreme restaurant (owned by my acquaintance Jorge Zaragosa). 

Posted by: iowahawk at April 27, 2010 03:27 PM (hqvM3)

54 So, when I go to Mexico in June, I shouldn't wear my "I'm an Arizona Gringo" t-shirt?  Is that the message?  Hmmmm.

Posted by: Soona' at April 27, 2010 03:27 PM (X3Shs)

55 My libtard sister highly recommends Canyon Ranch.  She's been there a couple of times.  While I was taking care of our mom, dragging my toddler along.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 27, 2010 03:27 PM (UOM48)

56 I'm pretty sure I read a few years ago about Don King getting held up in Mexico City and having his Rolex liberated.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 27, 2010 03:28 PM (V5s1P)

57

Hi Jane!

How was your trip? Enjoying your time w/your son?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 27, 2010 03:28 PM (mVpDf)

58 I can see Mexico from my house!

Posted by: John McCain at April 27, 2010 03:29 PM (qL730)

59 Ventana Canyon is nice. I have been there a few times.

Posted by: garrett at April 27, 2010 03:30 PM (cK2QX)

60 I think this is too funny.

Mexico is angry at Arizona for enforcing our laws.

Kewl.

Hopefully, Mexico will tell drug dealers and killers to avoid the US as well.

Posted by: shibumi at April 27, 2010 03:31 PM (OKZrE)

61 Hi, lacey.  I'm fighting tears every second.  He leaves this weekend for his two-year duty station, and deploys to Afghanistan in January.  Oh, and have I mentioned how I hate the fuck out of his CiC?  (And trust me on this, the military aren't Barry's fans, either.  The stupid, sorry-assed, golf-playing douchetard.)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 27, 2010 03:31 PM (UOM48)

62 My libtard sister highly recommends Canyon Ranch. She's been there a couple of times. While I was taking care of our mom, dragging my toddler along. Posted by: Jane D'oh Jane, how did you escape the libness? You seem to be surrounded by it, yet have kept your sanity and good humor. How? I just found out my sister in law is a libtard (we obviously don't speak much to begin with) and I am having a hard time dealing with it.

Posted by: mokimoki at April 27, 2010 03:33 PM (IrV7s)

63

  And trust me on this, the military aren't Barry's fans, either.  The stupid, sorry-assed, golf-playing douchetard.

You forgot Anti-Semite.

Posted by: garrett at April 27, 2010 03:33 PM (cK2QX)

64 I don't know what utopia they think they are creating, but don't you think they could see the spring/summer/sure-to-be- fall of discontent growing? Oh, wait, they are just redneck, bible clinging teabaggers.

God, I can't wait till November. This balls out, caution to the wind shit will hopefully only bring on more electoral blood letting. They're taking their mandate and running with it. I can't wait to clothesline them.

Posted by: Rum, Bitch Goddess of the Universe at April 27, 2010 03:35 PM (gofDd)

65 He leaves this weekend for his two-year duty station, and deploys to Afghanistan in January. Praying for him, Jane. The guys down in the south are really good. My husband had nothing but good things to say about them. They will have his back.

Posted by: mokimoki at April 27, 2010 03:35 PM (IrV7s)

66 My best friend who lives in Mexico, hated Bush with the heat of a million suns.  She voted for Easy Bake, and told me the other day she and her husband think he's a disaster.  But for the love of God, she still can't let go of her Bush hate.  I just sit quietly and let her rant, while my blood pressure rises. 

Oh, and her Mexican gated compound hired a security guard.  Within a week the security guard's brother was kidnapped and held for ransom.  She has family in Arizona and California, and as liberal as she is, even she sees what's going on as a disaster. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 27, 2010 03:37 PM (UOM48)

67 I spent 3 months in El Paso last fall, during which there were more than 300 murders in Juarez. There were over 2500 for 2009. And not just garden variety murders, no sir, it was shit like you hear out of the Congo; beheadings, mutilations, children getting killed. I don't want to hear one fucking word from anyone in Mexico about the dangers in the US. And Arizona is a great state to visit, by the way. Great mountains, vistas, and Arizona State coeds are among the hottest in the galaxy.

Posted by: UGAdawg at April 27, 2010 03:37 PM (/VjHB)

68 There are a lot of kick-ass golf courses in Arizona, too.

Jus'sayin'.

Posted by: Editor at April 27, 2010 03:37 PM (pUfK9)

69 Mexico has problems in several areas. It is running out of oil because the poorly run, union dominated Pemex can't spend enough money to find the reserves it has used up. Mexico lacks deep water technology that US firms have, but they can't do jv's because foreign ownership of any oil production is prohibited. Money from the US is the 2nd largest source of GDP after oil. Don't know where drug money is, but is probably close behind. US needs to build a wall along the border, and then enforce hiring of citizens first. Sure a guest worker program would be fine, but first employ those who are already here and have a path to citizenship to those who want to stay.

Posted by: John at April 27, 2010 03:38 PM (6FYZ6)

70

Well enjoy your time with him this week.

He'll be back with you before you know it safe and sound!

(I think however, I'm probably the only conservative that thinks this has been a relatively quick year).

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 27, 2010 03:38 PM (mVpDf)

71

Keeping people like this OUT of America is the goal of the Arizona law I imagine.  From today Chicago Sun-Times:

 

A man and a woman have been charged in a baseball-bat attack that put two women in the hospital last week, police sources said.

Heriberto Viramontes, 30, of the 3100 block of North Springfield, and Marcy Cruz, 25, are charged with aggravated battery and armed robbery.

Heriberto Viramontes, 30, and Marcy Cruz, 25, are charged with aggravated battery and armed robbery. They are accused in the Friday baseball bat attack and robbery of two women in the 1800 block of North Damen Avenue.
Stacy Jurich  and Natasha McShane were attacked near this viaduct on Damen early Friday morning. Both were beaten unconscious and were in intensive care later Friday.

Both remain in the hospital.

CruzÂ’s arrest report says she was identified in a video as using credit cards stolen from the victims.

Cruz has been arrested for minor crimes, but never charged. Viramontes has felony convictions for burglary and possession of a stolen vehicle and about 30 other arrests on his record.

The baseball bat believed to have been used in the attack has been recovered. Police used records from the womenÂ’s stolen cell phones and credit cards to track down their attackers, sources said. The two suspects were taken into custody Monday night.

Posted by: Boots at April 27, 2010 03:39 PM (06JTY)

72 Great mountains, vistas, and Arizona State coeds are among the hottest sluttiest in the galaxy.

FTFY

Posted by: Rum, Bitch Goddess of the Universe at April 27, 2010 03:39 PM (gofDd)

73 What does it say about a country that it discourages travel by its citizens to a portion of a neighboring country because said neighbor is insufficiently lawless?  Kinda sad, until you consider the political party in charge of 2 of the 3 branches of government in the neighboring country is actively working to increase its own level of lawlessness on a daily basis.  It's like a state of lawlessness entropy that ensures everlasting power for leftists in both nations.

Posted by: ambidextrous stroker at April 27, 2010 03:39 PM (YsSn7)

74

>>  U.S. citizens who believe they are being targeted for kidnapping or other crimes should notify Mexican law enforcement officials

Why? To ask them where they're going to be held?

Posted by: Dave in Texas at April 27, 2010 03:40 PM (Wh0W+)

75 I am beseiged by a thousand or more of the Mexicans...I have answered the demands with a cannon shot, and our flag still waves proudly from the walls. I shall never surrender or retreat.

Posted by: William Barret Travis at April 27, 2010 03:42 PM (gxpfq)

76

You know of course, that now in the age of Barry and sugary tasting unicorn shit, the Mexicans will actually take their president up on the boycott.

Arizona should start an advertising campaign: "Hey Mexicans!  California Welcomes You!" or perhaps: "Hey Mexicans!  California is Not Totally In The Toilet Yet.  Please Visit." or, "California Tax Payer Just Love Paying For Illegals!"

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 27, 2010 03:42 PM (r1h5M)

77

Posted by: ambidextrous stroker

I think it's really fantastic that most of the  morons here seem to be very well rounded!

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 27, 2010 03:42 PM (mVpDf)

78 What I'd like to know is why the pro-amnesty, open-border people hate Asians, Black Africans and non-Mexican Latinos so much.

Seriously.

For at least 30 years I've been told that disproportionate representation was ipso facto evidence of bigotry - usually racism or sexism.

But we know this:

a) America cannot assimilate the world; the number of people it can assimilate is finite
b) Mexico doesn't allow other Latin Americans to compete with Mexico's own ex-patriot population
c) Asians + Africans vastly outnumber Mexicans
d) Mexicans vastly outnumber all other groups that are allowed (de jour or de facto) into the United States
e) Environmental and social conditions are not admissible reasons for disproportionality. That Whites have had wealth and education for many generations, that Jews and Asians have different social attitudes toward consistent education and study than other groups, or that women choose careers that do not require constant education (programming, engineering) or that are dangerous and therefore higher paying (coal miner) is not only not an excuse for disproportionality, but are also, paradoxically, things multiculturalists want to stamp out.

Therefore, to support amnesty and anything approaching the current immigration system is evidence of one's incorrigible racism toward our Asian and African brothers.

So, again, why does Barack Obama hate Asians and Black people? Why do Mexican politicians in the U.S. hate other Latinos so much? Why do Democrats hate the vast majority of the world's minorities, who, by accident of geography and by Democratic policies are systematically disenfranchised from the immigration system?

Posted by: Amos at April 27, 2010 03:42 PM (klxdU)

79 Thanks lacey and mokimoki.  I've just learned to hit mute or the off button every.single.time the Douche in Chief is on my TV. 

And Moki, I was raised by a military dad and a great mom.  Very conservative.  My sis turned libtard in college (journalism school--surprise!).  My in-laws are total libs as well, with the exception of my husband's fantastic lesbian conservative aunt and his dad, who actually has changed amazingly.  His sibs? can suck it.  Bastards and bitches, every one.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 27, 2010 03:42 PM (UOM48)

80

69 Mexico has problems in several areas.

Yes but one of them is not cleavage.

Just sayin'

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 27, 2010 03:44 PM (r1h5M)

81 anytime the urge strikes me to visit Mexico, i just drive over to Van Nuys, or all the way to ELA, if i really want the full flavor of the experience.

at least the cops are fairly honest and the water is usually safe.

(the locals still wipe their ass and throw the results into a trash can in both places, because, after all, that's what they do at home, if they have a toilet at all.)

can we get the pinche consulate  pendejos to issue a similar advisory for California?

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 27, 2010 03:44 PM (d1FhN)

82 The baseball bat believed to have been used in the attack has been recovered.

Good thing they could trace that "assault weapon."

Posted by: Bomber at April 27, 2010 03:44 PM (d88g9)

83

Why? To ask them where they're going to be held?

Refs from High Officials will get you the best quality kidnappers you can hope for.  Beats getting kidnapped by one of those fly-by-night independent cartels!

Posted by: garrett at April 27, 2010 03:44 PM (cK2QX)

84 Dear Dr. Amy Bishop, I fear I may be targeted for kidnapping or other crimes. Should I notify Mexican law enforcement officials?

Posted by: concerned tourist at April 27, 2010 03:45 PM (aag4W)

85 Mexico is a weird place, at least up by the border. I've been there several times, from the mid-1980's on, and every time it's worse in a different way. Juarez and Nuevo Laredo at first were just grimy and gross and touristy; then got creepy when the government stepped in one of those periodic "clean up" programs and hid the grot under fresh paint; then it just got dangerous and ugly. Mexico's entire northern third is composed of piss-smelling dives or overpriced tourist-traps. It's like the world's most dangerous flea-market and open-air pulqueria. Mexico has bred entire generations of young men who are some of the cruelest, most pitiless dregs you have ever seen in your life. They're like the worst of the Arab zealots, only without the religion. The northern third of Mexico is like the fucking Road Warrior these days, and that's barely an exaggeration. Norteamericanos are taking their lives in their hands if they stray far from the resorts down there.

Posted by: Monty at April 27, 2010 03:49 PM (O3eFQ)

87 Jane, Your parents did a great job. I love your posts, (I tend to lurk more than post). Thanks for sharing about in-laws. She and I never got along, but with this new revelation, it makes MUCH more sense. Trying to be respectful, for my husband's sake, but she is just a mean-spirited person all around.

Posted by: mokimoki at April 27, 2010 03:53 PM (IrV7s)

88

Does that new Law in AZ allow the cops to inspect the bathroom garbage can?

Because that is a dead give away for sure!

Posted by: Not Quite at April 27, 2010 03:53 PM (Bs8Te)

89 P.S. The nick was going to be temporary, but it's growing on me.

Say it ain't so!

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 27, 2010 03:54 PM (MBjYb)

90

Moats, Gator Gar and liberal Bag Limits on 'Desert Hobos' w/ zero Weapons Restrictions. 

Fuck Solving the problem.  That would make Arizona Border Counties a Tourist Destination!

Posted by: garrett at April 27, 2010 03:55 PM (cK2QX)

91

Better go to Arizona instead.  I hear it's great year round.

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 27, 2010 03:55 PM (OMx0s)

92 OK, I'm thinking about the Mexican chick now (dumped me in '01, see above) and let me rant a little.

Once i went to a family picnic and after a few minutes, I asked her why she didn't tell me that it was only gonna be women and children. She looked around and looked at her bff and said "oh yeah, huh, where are all the men?"

There were about 35 people there, from two families, both second generation M-A.
Well they went through a list and it went something like this:
well, Uncle Guido is in prison, and Lorena's dad ran off to Mexico, and Mari's dad is in San Jose, but he ran off too. And the other Guido lives under the 4th street bridge,.....

This went on for about 15 names. It turns out the only male there, other than me, was the owner of the house, and he was in the garage (maybe a 45 yr old) smoking a bone. All the other men were either unknown, in in custody, ran off, or hiding in Mexico.

No lie.

Posted by: nine coconuts at April 27, 2010 03:56 PM (DHNp4)

93

Mexico:

Great place to go to spend lots of bucks and line Calderons pocket. Eat road-kill food, drink mediocre beer and tap sewage water, come home and pee/shit through a screen door for two weeks.

Awesome weight loss program.

Posted by: Andrew at April 27, 2010 03:57 PM (OCJJ5)

94 I wouldn't be nearly as worried about my boy going to the 'stan if we had W or even McLame in office.  But having a leftard, community organizing, Marxist, golf-playing, tantrum throwing, thin-skinned, metrosexual, finger-pointing, hissy-fit throwing, pussy in office makes my blood run cold for my boy, and all the young men and women serving under El Douche.  I only hope my liver can hold up to the next three years.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 27, 2010 03:58 PM (UOM48)

95

he was in the garage (maybe a 45 yr old) smoking a bone.

If you were the only other guy there, it was nice of you to let him blow you.   You are a good guest.  Your parents would be proud.

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at April 27, 2010 03:59 PM (cK2QX)

96 I was in Nuevo Laredo a few times and Juarez  in the late 60s. I was amazed at the crap I saw. At about 5:00 PM nobody payed any attention to traffic lights. You had to pay a local to watch your car when you left it in a parking space. Local drivers would go out of their way to get in an accident with a tourist. I would not go back if someone paid me.

Posted by: Ronster at April 27, 2010 04:01 PM (I+U8m)

97 Does "traveling"  mean using tunnels to bring in cocaine?  Don't do that for a while eh?

Posted by: kansas at April 27, 2010 04:02 PM (2kVkH)

98 94-I know. I was terrified for my husband. But seriously, the boots on the ground are good folk, and they look out for one another. But be sure to send lots of care packages, since McChrystal is getting rid of all the MWR facilities, like Burger King and Pizza Hut. You know, because they just aren't needed in a war./

Posted by: mokimoki at April 27, 2010 04:05 PM (IrV7s)

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 27, 2010 04:05 PM (OMx0s)

100 Say it ain't so!

Does that mean you like the new nick or I should stick with the old one?

What also gets me about the whole illegal immigration thing, and has since it became a huge issue in 2006, is the ridiculousness of those who are pro amnesty. Not only is it hugely unfair to the people who have applied to be a US citizen the legal way, but the fact that they whine about civil rights and discrimination just blows me away. God forbid the US have sovereignty over itself! The impertinence of the country!

Posted by: Rum, Bitch Goddess of the Universe at April 27, 2010 04:06 PM (gofDd)

101 Mexico?  Never heard of it.....

Posted by: Carlos "Where's my culo?" Gibson at April 27, 2010 04:07 PM (0qj+t)

102 Not only is it hugely unfair to the people who have applied to be a US citizen the legal way I've known people who have waited 7-9 years for their turn for immigration. They insisted on doing it the right way, and their turn kept getting bumped back because of all the illegals jamming up the system. Yet they would never do anything other than the proper procedures, because they loved America, and were eager to be American citizens. My heart broke for them. And yes, I am outraged by the fools who think enforcement of our immigration laws is tantamount to Nazi behavior.

Posted by: mokimoki at April 27, 2010 04:10 PM (IrV7s)

103 Yeah, Moki.  Like these kids serving in war when the Jackass in Chief is telling the Tollybon we're leaving in 2011, that they shouldn't have some kind of comfort food when they're on base.  It's not like we have a draft full of scared to death, spoiled brats.  Sheesh.  Yeah, God forbid we should make things a little more comfortable for an all volunteer military. 

/rant

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 27, 2010 04:13 PM (UOM48)

104 I spend my winters in Tucson, 60 miles from the border. I have never crossed the border into Mexico. I've heard too many horror stories from people who have. For instance, two women were arrested for no reason, just so the cops could empty their purses while they were locked up. Mexico's corruption is perhaps best illustrated by the fact that a few years ago, a major car-theft ring was busted in the SoCal area. The thieves were transporting stolen cars across the border and selling them to (wait for it) ... the Mexico City PD!

Posted by: sauropod at April 27, 2010 04:15 PM (hAAbr)

105 94  Jane, your boy will be surrounded by Marines.  That's a much bigger deal than who the CiC is.

Posted by: Bomber at April 27, 2010 04:15 PM (d88g9)

106 G'night all, hope tomorrow is better than today. Newfie puppy is requiring attention. The drool is sometimes overwhelming.

Posted by: mokimoki at April 27, 2010 04:16 PM (IrV7s)

107 My kid is serving with young guys from around the world, who are willing to sacrifice their life and limbs to earn U.S. citizenship.  You have to admire these kids who are willing to go about it the right (legal) way.  The rest of the illegals can just haul their butts back to the shit holes they crawled out of and take a number.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 27, 2010 04:19 PM (UOM48)

108 Does that mean you like the new nick or I should stick with the old one?

I prefer the old one, personally. Your modern world frightens and confuses me.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 27, 2010 04:20 PM (MBjYb)

109 "The safest place in Korea was right behind a platoon of Marines. Lord, how they could fight!"
 - MGen. Frank E. Lowe, USA; Korea, 26 January 1952

Posted by: semper fi at April 27, 2010 04:22 PM (0qj+t)

110 Mexico's Ambassador to the United States announced today that his government issued a travel advisory to Mexicans saying they should avoid traveling to Arizona.

That's more or less the idea, isn't it?

Posted by: profligatewaste at April 27, 2010 04:24 PM (b3rrc)

111 bomber@94  Yeah, you're right.  Still, I can barely control by Barry hate. 

(My boy had me nearly peeing my pants the first night I picked him up and took him to dinner on liberty.  Dear God, he has so many great stories.  The guys he's serving with are such a good looking, smart, funny, brave bunch.)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 27, 2010 04:28 PM (UOM48)

112 I prefer the old one, personally. Your modern world frightens and confuses me.

I'll try shortening it a little, just so you get accustomed.

Cinco de Mayo is going to be interesting this year, isn't it?

Posted by: Rum, Bitch Goddess at April 27, 2010 04:28 PM (gofDd)

113 I believe you mean Cinco de Quatro. Vote for me.

Posted by: Barry Obama at April 27, 2010 04:30 PM (oSrBX)

114 I'll try shortening it a little, just so you get accustomed.

I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn! 



Cinco de Mayo is going to be interesting this year, isn't it?


It's gonna be a lot more interesting for you there in L.A., I would imagine.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 27, 2010 04:33 PM (MBjYb)

115

One word: pulque

That right there is hazard enough imho.

Posted by: unknown jane at April 27, 2010 04:37 PM (5/yRG)

116

But having a

 

leftard,

community organizing,

Marxist,

golf-playing,

tantrum throwing,

thin-skinned,

metrosexual,

finger-pointing,

hissy-fit throwing,

pussy

 

in office makes my blood run cold for my boy, and all the young men and women serving under El Douche.  I only hope my liver can hold up to the next three years.

Posted by: Worth repeating, with emphasis at April 27, 2010 05:12 PM (MzTRc)

117 Funny how so many Californians seem to be sinking into a state of apprehension over what May 5th and the summer may bring.

Posted by: Who Knows at April 27, 2010 05:12 PM (7FgWm)

118

Davey Crockett and Daniel Boone were at the Alamo when they saw 2000 Mexicans running towards them, Davey said to Daniel " Are We pouring concrete today?"

But seriously I heard about a drug rehab place that wanted to open in Rosarito Beach (south of TJ). They were broken into by armed gunmen in the night, they stole computers and equipment. They called the policia and when they showed up...It was the same guys.

I haven't been in Mexico since they made it a requirement to have a passport or passport ID card...

I'll repeat: I can't go to Tijuana for the DAY without a passport.

I stopped going when they started cutting off heads.

Posted by: KZnextzone at April 27, 2010 05:19 PM (veaqz)

119 Holy Crap!!

Daniel Boone was at the Alamo?

Posted by: mpur in Texas at April 27, 2010 05:22 PM (iBTj9)

120

You got me..it was James Bowie   or David...no wait It was Pee Wee Herman!

something about a bike..

Posted by: KZnextzone at April 27, 2010 05:25 PM (veaqz)

121 I really think the US should target Mexican cartels, particularly those in border cities like Juarez, just like we did Pablo Escobar. Covert operations, surveillance, every trick we've got until those savages end up just like Senor Escobar-dead as Judas Iscariot.

Anyone who doesn't consider the border violence a major national security threat has lost their damn mind.

Posted by: UGAdawg at April 27, 2010 05:28 PM (/VjHB)

122 Drew and other morons: FWIW, 48 Hours had a program in their "Live to Tell" series in January about an American family kidnapped in Mexico. Link to the video (can be watched in full online): http://tinyurl.com/35cq783

Or go to 48 Hours online, hit the "full episodes" tab, go to page 2, and look for "Kidnap on Highway 1."

Yeah, you have to sit through an occasional ad urging you to contact Katie Couric on Facebook and other dumb stuff, but it's still an eye-opening program.

Posted by: PA Cat at April 27, 2010 05:38 PM (qJIGY)

123 Mexico should send an airlift or bus convoy to Arizona to escort all of its citizens, who are in such jeopardy here,  back to the safety of Mexico.

Posted by: what the f$CK? at April 27, 2010 06:00 PM (Vc/xe)

124 Mexico is a shithole.  Must to avoid travel, tourism and products made in Mexico.Build the fuckin wall.

Posted by: what the f$CK? at April 27, 2010 06:11 PM (Vc/xe)

125

Was in Monterrey Mexico on business for two days in the 90's...

-military all over the airport with AKs.

-had to prearrange transportation from the airport to the hotel to avoid kidnapping or robbery by fake taxi drivers.

- told not to go out after dark

- told not to walk around alone

- of course don't drink the water

Never been back to MX since and never had a desire to go to anywhere in MX, even Cancun.  The country is an out of countrol shit hole.  All the folks here in SoCal just love the place (even the white folk - makes them feel pseudo rich) - I could care less.

 

Posted by: KLL at April 27, 2010 07:13 PM (/5Axw)

126 The Air Force has prohibited its personnel from traveling in certain areas within Mexico (most near our border) without authorization.  This policy was put in place because of the violent chaos in Mexico.

Posted by: nraendowment at April 28, 2010 01:00 AM (pk3HD)

127

This is a significant reversal by the Mexican government.  For the first time in my lifetime, they are telling their citizens NOT to come to the United States.

And the left said Arizona's new law wouldn't work.

Posted by: Mike at April 28, 2010 04:11 AM (7vbG1)

128 No one is going to want to visit the places on that list, anyway.  Hardly tourist destinations.

I live in Mexico.  The Riviera Maya, to be exact.  Our biggest threat to security is bicycle theft.  Hard to believe that Ace of Spades would jump on the MSM's meme about the dangers of Mexico.  You guys have vacations properties in the US, too?   Like CBS, ABC and Fox?

Posted by: MARK at April 28, 2010 05:14 AM (VX+H+)

129 I spent two weeks in Sedona a few (actually, quite a few) years back.  It was lovely.  The people were wonderfully nice and the scenery was lovely.  But it was HOT.  It was 115 one day I was there.  All the stores at the malls had misters attached to their buildings in an attempt to cool customers down.  Spring would be a better time to go.

Posted by: TimothyJ at April 28, 2010 06:06 AM (IKKIf)

130 I understand the need to dump on Mexico. I aint happy about Calderon's statements but they are hardly surprising. Every Mexican president says pretty much the same thing when the US just even mentions the idea of enforcement.  Its politics.

I live in Mexico City and I do think there is something to all the crime stories, especially in the north. I can understand wanting to boycott Mexico over illegal immigration.

If AZ sticks to its guns, its really going to get interesting. The real loser is going to be the US government, who will have to face AZ handing over a bunch of illegal immigrants the fed cant and dont want to take.

The next losers will be New Mexico and Texas as illegal crosses look for other venues to cross and CA and other states who will those already in AZ looking for safer havens.

Also, check out Michelle Malkins column today about immigration law in Mexico, which I have to follow. I would love an American to come to Mexico City and just stand there with an American flag and do nothing else. Watch how long he lasts there. Alas, Im too chicken to do it and lose my job

Posted by: in mexico at April 28, 2010 08:43 AM (Nz79Y)

131 Apples and oranges.  We weren't enticed to come to Mexico to fill low wage jobs by companies and individuals looking for cheap labor.  Americans wouldn't do those jobs, but they expected them done.  Add to that, the culture of mind alteration, which permeates American society, and you have an almost perfect storm.  Next time you see someone using coke, meth or, even, smoking a joint, ask them how much human suffering comes out of their selfish need to feel good.




Posted by: MARK at April 28, 2010 09:54 AM (VX+H+)

132 I was in Mexico City for 3 weeks in '99 working with Telmex on a telecommunications project. The big story at the time was an incident where the Federal Police attempted to arrest a member of the Judicial Police. The JP weren't going to let the FP take him; guns were drawn and a firefight went on for 15 minutes. No casualties, no arrests, but this took place in Mexico City in broad daylight. Imagine the reaction here if the same thing happened between the FBI and the US Marshals in Washington DC. Sorry, but that country is circling the drain and the only thing keeping it from total chaos is the government's subsidy of the price of tortillas so that the poor can have at least have something to eat.

Posted by: Worried at April 29, 2010 12:46 AM (Tvdzy)

133 Living in San Antonio we have a quite interesting perspective on this.  My block is a in an middle/upper middle neighborhood in Shavano Park I have 2 Mexican national families that have moved in over the past year.  They are not illegal aliens they are Mexican citizens that have moved their families here for safe education and living, while the spouses live and work in Mexico.  They may or may not apply for permanent residence.

The violence is so bad that many Mexican upper and upper middle class families are buying a fairly significant amount of our residential real estate for safety purposes.  Interestingly enough some of these people are moving their business to our side of the border.  NAFTA in reverse.

Damn fine neighbors too I must say.  Hope they stay.

Posted by: haavamaal at April 29, 2010 01:39 PM (xwEHT)

134 sense of smell and taste return and breathing starts to become easier. In the long term, giving up tobacco can help you live longer. Your risk of getting cancer decreases with each year you stay smoke-free.

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