1 I still want that sombrero.

2 Badges? we don't need no stinkin' badges.

3 their trip through Mexico

Catch that bit?

4 I live in a region that is majority Mexican-American. I live in a town that is majority Mexican-American. I've got good friends who are Mexican-Americans. My children's best friends are all Mexican-Americans. I very much like most of  the Mexican-Americans that I know. I see signs at these protests that are basically advocating for civil war. I  hope it doesn't come to that, but they damned sure seem to be pushing in that direction.

5

Mexico, the country that attacks the US for having the temerity to enforce it's immigration laws is under attack from Amnesty International for....the systemic abuse of illegal immigrants.

Amnesty International is a Western-hating piece of shit organization for primitives, self-haters, and enemies of progress, that should be put out of business.  I wouldn't cite them for anything.  Who cares what Amnesty says about Mexico?

6 We have to hold ourselves to a higher standard!

7 Who cares what Amnesty says about Mexico?

Only Nixon can go to China?

8 The Mexican-American's protest tune.

9 Fox is talking about this now and they are repeating the Dem Party line just like the rest of the MFM.

Did all you morons know that the "latinos" are all clamoring for new reform.

10 On Fire!

11

One more time:

The Mexican-American's protest tune.

12

DrewM, why the (*^# are you punching down by citing Amnesty? 

13 #5 Amnesty International is a Western-hating piece of shit organization for primitives, self-haters, and enemies of progress, that should be put out of business.  I wouldn't cite them for anything.  Who cares what Amnesty says about Mexico?

All true, but Amnesty International's report is somewhat useful for deflecting the "OMG, enforcing immigration laws is teh racist!" arguments.

/If you get the rare libs who will actually think for a second.  Otherwise.

14 Most of the illegals in the middle east coast aren't mexicans but El Salvdorians, Columbians, Hondurans etc. They are indeed traveling through Mexico to get here. They must keep going past the border states because the competition for jobs is tougher. The Mexicans look down on them.

15 Don't drink the water.

16 Forced to call relatives in the U.S. to pay off the kidnappers

See? It's all our fault.

17 4  The Americans of Mexican persuasion that I know are some of the finest folks I've ever met, and some of the best Americans...they hate illegals (for the most part -- hey, considering what a shithole Mexico is, one can't really blame a person for wanting to get the hell out); they pretty much hate immigrants period if said immigrant isn't willing to bust his/her balls.

18

Explain to me again why illegal aliens in this country are protesting? 

Are they protesting because Mexico isn't a free country, or that Mexico's definition of  freedom is limited to "You're free to leave?"

19

Central Americans complain about abuse by the Colossus (to their) North–Or: “You DON’T wanna be illegal in Mexico!”

Mexican President Felipe Calderon on the new Arizona law: "this opens the door to intolerance, hate, discrimination and abuse in law enforcement."

"Jose Ramos, 18, of El Salvador said the extortion (by Mexican border police) occurs at every stop in Mexico, until migrants are left penniless and begging for food.

Maria Elena Gonzalez,said female migrants often complain about abusive (Mexican border) police officers. "They (Mexican border police) force them to strip, supposedly to search them, but the purpose is to sexually abuse them," she said.

Others said they had seen migrants beaten to death by (Mexican border) police, their bodies left near the railway tracks to make it look as if they had fallen from a train..."If you're carrying any money, they (Mexican border police) take it from you," said Guatemalan migrant Carlos Lopez in the same story, "federal, state, local (Mexican) police--all of them." Lopez had been shaken down repeatedly in 15 days of traveling through Mexico.

"If you're on a bus, they pull you off and search your pockets, and if you have any money," added El Salvadoran migrant Jose Ramos, "they (Mexican Border police) keep it all and say, 'Get out of here!'"

In May of 2002, 18 Americans--though holding perfectly legal Mexican visas--were unceremoniously booted out of Mexico. "And stay out!" yelled the Mexican immigration authorities while shaking their fists.

The Americans' crime? Why, the arrogant Gringo scoundrels participated in a May Day march in Mexico City!

Unreal.

 

babalublog.com

20 I worked with a guy, probably illegal as he spoke no English, who went to visit his mom and other wife (quite a surprise to his American wife) in Mexico and had his guts sliced open and died in the street for his wallet. 

21 I was stationed in San Diego for a couple years from 98-00. I loved going to TJ and getting drunk, then asking a random cab driver where the nearest donkey show was. They would always take you somwhere, anywhere, just for a few bucks in cab fare. Walking back could get a little crazy.

I wouldn't cross into TJ these days unless I was with about 10 well-armed friends.

22

All true, but Amnesty International's report is somewhat useful for deflecting the "OMG, enforcing immigration laws is teh racist!" arguments.

/If you get the rare libs who will actually think for a second.  Otherwise.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 03, 2010 11:20 AM (9hSKh)

I don't like to base my arguments on the claims of an enemy.  I think it's stupid and counter-productive.

23 I'm starting to think of naming the businesses in my town that use illegals in the local newspaper.

24 Due to the criticism displayed here, implicit or explicit, of races/cultures/nations that are Non-Honkey-Americancentric/Other, I must provisionally denounce this post as racist until such time as can be proven otherwise and/or atoned for by a retraction of the offending material and a suitable display of white guilt.

25 Speaking of illegal aliens, my son, as one of sixty student senators at Texas A&M, is co-sponsor of bill to stop the in-state tuition rate to illegals. The opposition that he has heard so far is incredible.  Basically, if you're from Oklahoma, Florida, or one of the other 47 states, you will pay the much higher out of state tuition rate.  But if you are an illegal and went to high school in Texas, you get the in-state rate. It's just crazy.

26 Personally, I am happy that Arizona decided to exercise it's sovereign right to govern itself. That is the big issue.

The fucking Feds know no shame. They pass the immigration and reform act 20 years ago, immediately refuse to enforce it, then blame the citizens and Az. for trying to protect itself 20 years later from all of the ill effects their inactivity- or criminal failure to act- has caused.

It is a real head scratcher, trying to fig out where the problem lies. Not.

27 Fox is talking about this now and they are repeating the Dem Party line just like the rest of the MFM.
 

Posted by: Vic at May 03, 2010 11:19 AM (QrA9E)

I watched FNS yesterday and red diaper fuckstick Chris Wallace let Butch Napolitano get away with stating that the immigration problems illustrates the need for "comprhensive immigration reform" without a single fucking question in response of how much would having a new law remedy a situation when the existing laws aren't enforced.  Cocksucking Chrissy saved his tough questioning for Marco Rubio.  To hell with Fox.

28 24 Due to the criticism displayed here, implicit or explicit, of races/cultures/nations that are Non-Honkey-Americancentric/Other, I must provisionally denounce this post as racist until such time as can be proven otherwise and/or atoned for by a retraction of the offending material and a suitable display of white guilt.     Okay by me.

29

DrewM, why the (*^# are you punching down by citing Amnesty? 

Posted by: SomePoPGuy at May 03, 2010 11:20 AM (SkRi5)

There's a difference between attacking a "junior varsity" enemy and citing an enemy's assertion about a third party to try and bolster your own argument.  What else are you going to enjoy citing Amnesty International for, because they make the same sorts of claims about lots of countries and they make some outrageous claims about ours, too.

30 >>...Mexico's Ambassador to the United States announced that his government issued a travel advisory to Mexicans saying they should avoid traveling to Arizona.

It's all good.  Maybe the other border states will consider becoming part of this travel advisory.

31 Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 03, 2010 11:36 AM (5TNVe)

Lighten up Francis.

32 Wow, another dysfunctional Kraptocracy lecturing the U.S. on its internal affairs.

Nothing new here.

33 Loved that movie. Now I finally get kill to someone.

34

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 03, 2010 11:32 AM (ZlVf9)

Damn, you're good. Lawyer background?

35 Posted by: Captain Hate at May 03, 2010 11:35 AM (V5s1P)

I quit watching CW long ago. He is pure libtard all the way and hi Fox News Sunday is more left than the old NBC Meet the Press used to be when the guy who died was on there. 

36

Lighten up Francis.

Posted by: DrewM. at May 03, 2010 11:45 AM (9B5OK)

About what?  Citing Amnesty International's assessment of a country?  There's nothing light about that.  Maybe Iran issued a report on Mexico's ill treatment of illegals.  That would be some powerful stuff ...

37 http://pointsandfigures.com/2010/05/03/immigration/ this is really about economics

38

I don't like to base my arguments on the claims of an enemy.  I think it's stupid and counter-productive.

Au contraire. "Political jujitsu", using the Demunists' own arguments against the Commiecrats, is not only useful, but fun.

39 @HH Lawyer? Oh, you're funny. You can come over to my house and fuck my sister!

***punches HH in stomach*** Actually, no. But I come into contact with them all too frequently, even the ones working for us.

40 It's also run by a bunch of communists ... When will the Mexicans figure out why they need to head north to get decent jobs.

41 I very much like most of  the Mexican-Americans that I know. I see signs at these protests that are basically advocating for civil war.

Trying to remember where I read this yesterday--Steyn maybe?--but it was a suggestion that the protesters waving the "U. S. border control = fascism" signs with the Mexican flags and other declarations of Mexican pride aren't "Mexican-Americans", they're Mexicans.  They don't want to be Americans, hyphenated or not.

Back to "getting rid of the hyphen" again--either you're an American (of X Descent, if you must), or you're not.  No more calling everyone of a certain skin tone/mother tongue X-American.

42 Great post. I live in San Diego County and used to enjoy going to Mexico all the time, even back then you were warned it was dangerous..... but nothing like it is now. Such a shame

43 this is really about economics

Actually it is all about getting commiecrats elected over and over again.

If we had Eastern Europeans who just got out from under communism coming in at the rate the Mexicans are coming in Democrats would never be elected again.

44 @ progressoverpeace, C'mon, dude. Quit being purposely obtuse. DrewM's using liberals' favorite weapon against them - hypocrisy. That's what makes it so delicious.

Drew's beating them about the neck and shoulders with an athletic sock full of their own shit, and your complaining that YOU prefer dress socks.

Sometimes you just have to sit back and enjoy. Smell some fucking roses.

45 The irony is that this bill actually helps the illegals who pay the "Coyotes" thousands of dollars to be smuggled across the border, packed like sardines in vehicles and dumped at drop houses around the valley. They are at the mercy of these guys and many are abused and most of the women raped. Often they are simply abandoned and end up back in Mexico. And so the cycle continues, ping-ponging back and forth from Mexico to AZ (and other border states). I hope that if this law comes to pass in 90 days, it will put a crimp in the Coyotes' ease of taking advantage of these people.

46

Au contraire. "Political jujitsu", using the Demunists' own arguments against the Commiecrats, is not only useful, but fun.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 03, 2010 11:56 AM (ujg0T)

I beg to differ.  Amnesty makes up shit all the time.  They are known liars.  Why would you give support to whatever they are saying about Mexico when we know that they lie and falsify claims about all sorts of stuff, such as Israel, for example? 

I seem to be alone in this, but I really don't understand what you guys are thinking. 

47

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 03, 2010 11:56 AM (ZlVf9)

eeeks! Sorry about that. It just seemed so, I dunno, Lawyerly...

(ducks)

48

"Drew's beating them about the neck and shoulders with an athletic sock full of their own shit, and your complaining that YOU prefer dress socks."

Bingo. Political jujitsu.

Mexico has people trying to sneak in from even poorer Central America--imagine that. People who speak the same language, are just as brown (in fact often lighter skinned) than people in Quintana Roo and Chiapas provinces, and are probably quite compatible in Mexico. Do the Mexicans care? Not in the least. (It was amusing to see Mexican patrol boats in Cancun and Cozumel, making sure our dive boat was full of gringo and euro divers and not Guatemalans sneaking in).

49

I beg to differ.  Amnesty makes up shit all the time.  They are known liars.  Why would you give support to whatever they are saying about Mexico when we know that they lie and falsify claims about all sorts of stuff, such as Israel, for example? 

When it comes to Mexico, they aren't lying. Mexico solves its Guatemalan and other Central American illegal alien problem quite simply and ruthlessly, by not hiring them, not giving them *any* benefits, and ruthlessly throwing them out when they do catch them.

50

Trying to remember where I read this yesterday--Steyn maybe?--but it was a suggestion that the protesters waving the "U. S. border control = fascism" signs with the Mexican flags and other declarations of Mexican pride aren't "Mexican-Americans", they're Mexicans.  They don't want to be Americans, hyphenated or not.

Back to "getting rid of the hyphen" again--either you're an American (of X Descent, if you must), or you're not.  No more calling everyone of a certain skin tone/mother tongue X-American.

Actually, the hyphenated American doesn't bother me, because historically it indicates a group on its way into the melting pot (Polish Americans, Italian Americans, Japanese Americans, etc.)

But your point is absolutely well taken. These people aren't hyphenated at all. Actually I take that back. They are Un-Americans, or Anti-Americans.

51 C'mon, dude. Quit being purposely obtuse. DrewM's using liberals' favorite weapon against them - hypocrisy. That's what makes it so delicious.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 03, 2010 12:04 PM (ZlVf9)

I'm not being obtuse, at all.  I have stated my problem with this very clearly and directly.  And, this isn't about hypocrisy, at all.  What does Mexico's treatment of illegals have to do with ours - even in the fevered minds of the left?  That bit of hypocrisy only applies to Mexico's attempt to address domestic US policy, which Mexico shouldn't be trying to do, no matter what, but it has nothing to do with the left and those who want to grant amnesty, here.  They would just say that the illegals from the south need to be given political asylum in the US to escape the awful treatment they get in Mexico. I'll bet that Amnesty likes the asylum idea, too, for the reasons cited (of them) in this post.

52 Governments themselves are creating the black market where mexican kidnappers flourish. The simple solution is to make kidnapping legal, opening up the market to lawful citizens instead of leaving it in the hands of gangsters. Or better, eliminate all borders.

53

And, this isn't about hypocrisy, at all.  What does Mexico's treatment of illegals have to do with ours - even in the fevered minds of the left? 

It illustrates the common sense that every nation needs to control its borders, which sometimes needs to be hammered into the thick skulls of leftist dupes.

54

 Or better, eliminate all borders.

Say what???

55
Real or forged parody?

This picture is already going viral on the Internet. The picture does not obviously appear to be altered and rumors online claim the picture was taken by police in Phoenix, Arizona during the pro Comprehensive Immigration Reform Amnesty marches on May 1, 2010.

56 historically it indicates a group on its way into the melting pot (Polish Americans, Italian Americans, Japanese Americans, etc.)

Historically, sure.  But we don't have a melting pot anymore--assorted groups insisting on being recognized for ethnicity first and "American" second is creating more of a "salad", to use a metaphor from Victor Davis Hanson.  Each component of a salad is distinct; the flavors may blend well (or not...sometimes one flavor overpowers all the others, demanding prayer breaks and footbaths), but the cabbage and the tomatoes are identified as separate, loosely connected pieces.  All they have in common is the vinegrette.

An alloy is not easily separated into its composite metals, you can't look at a piece of steel and see the zinc.

57

Posted by: sickinmass at May 03, 2010 12:31 PM (tamie)

Honduran adjitator.

Happens all the time...

 

58

An alloy is not easily separated into its composite metals, you can't look at a piece of steel and see the zinc.

Incidentally, the original "melting pot" analogy was about steelmaking.

59

Federal officials were stunned to learn that pages from an Immigration Reform measure got mixed in with pages from the Health Reform Act. Worse, it became part of the immigration reform which has already become law. Civil rights advocates were appalled to learn that the non-existent death panels actually do exist. But rather than applying quality of life metrics to American senior citizens, those same metrics are applied to persons illegally in the United States. Given the fact that those people "are now in a fundamentally racist nation, the Quality of Life index for them is quite low," said one anonymous official, "but, at least they'll have health insurance." Protesters had already surrounded the Arizona Capital, one carrying a sign saying "No Lethal Injections." President Obama had no comment and is said to be looking "for the best hamburger in DC."

60 Check it out. Even if you don't watch all the videos look at the stats for each group. On the left side watch vid called "Out of control"
Border Invasion

61

It illustrates the common sense that every nation needs to control its borders, which sometimes needs to be hammered into the thick skulls of leftist dupes.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 03, 2010 12:26 PM (ujg0T)

I agree with you on the gist of this, but I just don't agree that any Amnesty report carries any meaning in this regard.  I don't see why the US would have to refer to any other country's treatment of its borders or illegals to justify defending American sovereignty.  I don't like arguments for American law that cite some foreign law (for whatever reason) and that is the part of the basis to my objection, here - in addition to the problem I have with anyone who cites Amnesty for "information".

We just disagree on this part of the issue.

62 Incidentally, the original "melting pot" analogy was about steelmaking.

Yeah, zinc makes a lousy fondue.

63 If you get the rare libs who will actually think for a second.

Really you actually have first hand knowledge of just such an animal?  I was at a dinner & dance Sat; we had one liberal couple pissing and moaning about the oil spill in the gulf, and how we shouldn't be drilling PERIOD!  I pass along a comment from one of the morons here about getting an "oil soaked varmint then sticking a stick up it's ass, and using it to light the streets of New Orleans"  Still cracks me up!  They were not amused, but y'all knew that.

64 Events have overtaken the entire issue of border controls and immigration reform. By the time Congress finishes any bill that Obama might sign, it will be painfully obvious that BP oil will already have succeeded in fouling the entire US gulf fishery for at least two generations, and it will be clear to all that's it on its way into the gulf stream to work pretty much the same disaster all the way up the entire east coast. It won't be long before Mexico will be pushing towards an effective law bill to keep gringos out.

65

we had one liberal couple pissing and moaning about the oil spill in the gulf, and how we shouldn't be drilling PERIOD!

I always like to remind these morons that their precious iPhones are made from metal and petroleum-based products.  That tends to shut them up pretty quickly, until they start trying to convince me that, if they had to, they could live without their iPhones.

NO BLOOD FOR iPHONES!!!!

66

No shit & the ruling class still operates on a caste system too. I care about them but can't do a damned thing about it. 

"Men will believe anything, the more preposterous the better. Whales speak French at the bottom of the sea. The horses of Arabia have silver wings. Pygmies mate with elephants in darkest Africa. I have sold all those propositions. Well, maybe we're all fools and none of it matters."

- Allardyce T. Merriwhether

How about this one: "America is going to annex Mexico. There will be 81 States in the United States of America" Well, we fuckin should anyway.  A vast majority of Mexicans would vote for it. Go ahead and ask them.

67

How about this one: "America is going to annex Mexico. There will be 81 States in the United States of America" Well, we fuckin should anyway.  A vast majority of Mexicans would vote for it. Go ahead and ask them.

Annexing it and running it like we ran the Phillipines would be a vast improvement.

68 @43 Actually it is all about getting commiecrats elected over and over again.

If we had Eastern Europeans who just got out from under communism coming in at the rate the Mexicans are coming in Democrats would never be elected again.

Posted by: Vic at May 03, 2010 12:01 PM (QrA9E) If comprehensive reform includes allowing an influx of Polish and Czech women across our northern borders, I fully support it.

69

To all you illegals in the US, Something to ponder before your next bogus protest.....

IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR.

 

 

IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.

 

 

 

IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU GET SHOT.

 

IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU WILL BE JAILED.

 

 

 

IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM AGAIN.

 

 

 

IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY AND YOUR FATE WILL BE SEALED.

 

 

IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.

 

 

IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU GET

 

 

1. A JOB,

2. A DRIVER LICENSE,

3. SOCIAL SECURITY CARD,

4. WELFARE,

5. FOOD STAMPS,

6. CREDIT CARDS,

7. SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE,

8. FREE EDUCATION,

9. FREE HEALTH CARE,

10. A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON,

11. BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF PUBLIC DOCUMENTS

    PRINTED IN YOUR LANGUAGE,

12. AND THE RIGHT TO CARRY YOUR COUNTRY'S FLAG WHILE  YOU PROTEST THAT YOU DON'T GET ENOUGH RESPECT.

13. So, STFU Losers........ 

 

 

 

70 Mexico's ambassador to the United States.

71 Mexico's ambassador offers up "Mexican justice" to tourists who don't cooperate and hand over their money, while jabbering about corn chips.

72 United States IS A DANGEROUS PLACE!

Good. Stay away from Mexico. We don't need you losers. When you come here to only drink 'till you pass out, vomit, throw trash and act with disrespect to our cities and Mexican citizens.

STAY IN your decadent country. Stay away from Mexico, please.