1 Go Michelle!

2
Yep, I don't give a shit if a (D) takes the seat, I want that piece of shit gone.

If the GOP had its shit together, which they don't, they could easily make up for that loss in AZ with wins in either IN, CT, or NV.

3 I get what your saying, but I disagree.  Hayworth ain't so great.  Plus I don't think even McCain will be comfortable moving too far from the positions he's taken in this primary.  And he will bone us up the ass something awful if he ever gets booted off the team.

4 "McCains's an ass."-- Dr Spank.

5 P.S. plus I think the immigration situation in Arizona has gotten so bad that he's not gonna flip back on amnesty.  This may actually be a case of the facts changing, rather than the politician changing.

6 That's it, I'm telling Allah to unfollow you on Twitter or I'm cutting him off. You and that Filipina homophobe are trying to cure him of his natural submissiveness

7 I think, on the whole, McCain's a good man. Just not as good as he thinks.

I think he is an unprincipled asshole and he has rode that "hero horse" into the ground until it has foundered.

As MM said, it is time for him to go. I don't give a damn how bad Hayworth is said to be, he can't be any worse than McCain.

8 Ace,

The MB all but said the same thing about Lindsey, I am not Gay, Graham.

9
buzz, I've had my fill of shit sandwiches, thanks anyway, though

10

It's always seemed apparent to me that McCain speaks out of both sides of his mouth.  He's a liberal democrat pretending to be a conservative.  He'll tell anyone whatever he thinks they want to hear for his own personal gain.  He's openly shown his disdain for conservatives, but always finds some way to back peddle when it comes election time - and those people with short attention spans seem to keep voting for him.  I did vote for him for Pres, but only because the other alternative was obama.  We really only had a choice between two democrats in the last election - or as the South Park kids say - (something like) between a Douche and a Turd Sandwich.

11 I don't like Hayworth at all.

I think he represents a lot of why the GOP failed.  More than even Mccain.

But I also noted that Mccain is a powerful broker of legal crap in a minority position.  I think he's undermining himself on that end in this campaign and we might be in the majority anyway, where he's actually a huge liability.

So fine.  Hayworth.  Even someone so associated with crooks and relatively terrible at politics is a much better choice than Mccain.  The GOP can show people it is trying to break free of this progressive RINOs.

12 About time.  Maybe she will agree with me on other topics as well in the near future.

13 My thought?

Simple.  Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out Johnny. 

Seriously, McCain has never shown the slightest compunction about throwing conservative ideas or conservative principles under the bus if it got him the adulation he wanted from the lame stream media.

They've been using McCain to beat up the republican party for years, and now the chickens have finally come home to roost.  Time for McCain to go off to that pasture where the RNC keeps old RINO's, and not a moment too soon.

14 "Cache" and "cachet" are two different words with two different meanings and two different pronunciations. They are not interchangeable.

15 Maybe McCain could find a job in the private sector and be the first McCain in 150 years NOT to be a government employee.

I heard Budweiser was hiring delivery guys down there.

16 I think, on the whole, McCain's a good man.

I think, on the whole, McCain's a good man (relatively speaking for a politician).  In absolute terms, I would not trust him as a business partner, nor would I hire him to do any work for me since he's so unreliable.  In the real world if he were businessman, he'd drive all his customers away to the competition very quickly.

17 And why has Wordpress been banned?

18 In 2000 I seriously considered going to work for his campaign. I was impressed by the story of his captivity; I'm big on that stuff. However, his half-assed campaign which handed the WH to this POSOTUS has done more damage to this country than anything he ever did for it. Sorry, Johnny boy, go spend time with your wife and her zillions.

19 This would be an easy call if Haynesworth wasn't such an ass.

20 It's time for him to go.

I wish I were so sure.

My heart says beat him like a redheaded step child but my head says do we want to turn a safe Republican seat into a toss up?

Also, Hayworth isn't exactly the poster boy for principled small government conservatism.

I'm all for backing the most conservative candidate in a primary who can win in the general (it's why I was on the Rubio bandwagon from Day 1) but I'm not sure that's the case here. A guy who lost a solidly Republican congressional district isn't the first person who comes to mind as a great statewide candidate.

Whacking McCain now, for this challenger, seems to be more personal than business.

McCain is a son of bitch but it's not like he's Linc Chaffe. 

21 Michelle Malkin has perused a hysterical vendetta against John McCain for years, even to the point of relentlessly attacking him during the election which effectively made her a powerful voice for the Obama campaign. She has MDS. Unfair to the point of unhinged, shrill and nasty. It brought her blog hits but it has helped sodomize the country with an Obama presidency.

And if anyone thinks J.D. Hayworth will be an effective senator kidding themselves, he was another pig at the trough when he was a congressman.

22 I don't like Hayworth either.  A good scare could straighten McLame out.

Key word here "could".

23
Can you think of a single Democrat in Congress right now who is a better person than Hayworth?

Hayworth might have his faults, but my belief is the worst Republican is always better than the best Democrat. As far as McCain goes, I'm sick of him taking a shit on my head. Hayworth has yet to take a dump on me.

24 night, mackerel

25 I was impressed by the story of his captivity

That impressed me at first.  Then I found out about his duplicitous collaboration with John Kerry to whitewash the MIA records for Clinton so the Vietnamese could be given trade status.

26 I normally do whatever Michelle tells me to (for reasons best not gone into here) but I still have issues with Hayworth's birther crap.

27

"Michelle Malkin: It's Time For Maverick McCain To Go"

Yeah, sure thing, anchor baby . . .

28 Can somebody put me some effin' knowledge about Hayworth? What are his weak spots and would he have a chance in the general election?

29 We can't endlessly reelect a man who doesn't represent our interests and aspirations to repay him for his steel in Vietnam.

I saw we repay him for his service in Vietnam by letting him retire to a life of leisure, family, and relaxation. A much more dignified end than being wheeled into the Senate by your nursing staff, to cast one more vote before someone notices you're actually dead.

30 knowledge about Hayworth?

He seems like a lightweight.  Gravitas coefficient = 0.000

31 Hey Boxxxy, Michelle hates McCain for good reason: he routinely  craps all over conservatives (Gang of 14, McCain Feingold, etc) and then every 6 years makes a fake move right to gain re-election. Enough is enough.

32 And he will bone us up the ass something awful if he ever gets booted off the team.

How will this be different than McCain any other time?

And just what will he be able to do, no longer being a Senator and all? Go along with the post-election push to enact a VAT? Well, duh, he's gonna do that AND "amnesty" anyway.

33 I heard Budweiser was hiring delivery guys down there.


He's got an in with the boss.....

34 And he will bone us up the ass something awful if he ever gets booted off the team.

Posted by: buzz at April 23, 2010 03:33 PM (kwhut)

How? By saying bad things? He already does that.

35 P.S. plus I think the immigration situation in Arizona has gotten so bad that he's not gonna flip back on amnesty.  This may actually be a case of the facts changing, rather than the politician changing.

Except the facts have not changed. Their degree may have changed, but the facts themselves have not.

36

Then I found out about his duplicitous collaboration with John Kerry to whitewash the MIA records for Clinton so the Vietnamese could be given trade status.

I did not know that. Is there anybody in DC you can fucking trust?

37 As far as the not being bought thing, didn't McCain's whole Real Man Of Integrity thing start after that whole little Keating problem?  Just sayin'.

38 Can Hayworth beat the Dem candidate?

This is politics:  There is a zero-sum aspect here:  If the choice is McCain or a Democrat taking the seat, I'll settle for McCain and hope for the best--rather than a Dem asshole taking the seat.

If Hayworth can defeat the likely Demo challenger, I'd prefer Hayward.

But can he win?

39 Hayworth is nucking futz.  One of the few Abramoff crooks who not only didn't return the donations, he never even paid for the in-kind donation of Abramoff's sky box (which J.D. used for fundraisers) as required by law.  He's a crook.

Not to mention the birther nonsense he was regularly highlighting on his radio show, or his millions of other stupid blowhard statements which embarrass anyone human.

He blew his safe House seat because of this crap.  But stupid people want to run him for SENATE, just because they despise McCain.  Hey, McCain disgusts me too, but I'm not an idiot.

Just remember, folks, after you blow any chance of recapturing the Senate by pitching away a safe seat, you will have to listen to me every time Senator Babbitt votes, because it will have been ALL YOUR FAULT if he gets elected.

So enjoy your little party while it lasts, dumbasses.

J.D. Hayworth?? - just how stupid can people be?  Pitiful . . .

40 I heard Budweiser was hiring delivery guys down there.

They will not hire him, they have heard how many times he has crashed the thing he was driving.

41 Time for this old soldier to go back to the ranch and sit in a rocking chair, I respect him for his great service but he has lost his way.

42 There should be a mandatory retirement age of 70 on the Hill.  Period.

43

Just remember, folks, after you blow any chance of recapturing the Senate by pitching away a safe seat, you will have to listen to me every time Senator Babbitt votes, because it will have been ALL YOUR FAULT if he gets elected.

And how will a Senator Babbitt differ from a Senator McCain? Caucusing with the other party?

Senator McCain will always -- ALWAYS -- fuck us when it matters. He has to, to maintain the favor of his true constituents, the press. Fer crissake, he wouldn't even campaign against Obama!

44

I don't like Hayworth at all.

I think he represents a lot of why the GOP failed.  More than even Mccain.

You mean he was more illegal alien coddling and tone deaf on the issue than McCain? For THAT, more than porktastic bridges to nowhere, more than wide stances in restrooms and emails to pages, is what did the GOP in.

45 So Hayworth is a goddam RINO too? Shit. Doea he at least not have an empty skulled fat assed daughter with a catfish mouth?

46 I normally do whatever Michelle tells me to (for reasons best not gone into here) but I still have issues with Hayworth's birther crap.

Might want to research that a bit, Hayworth did make some comments for his radio show before he ever started his Senate run that were more or less designed to bring up the issue for discussion, but he never said he was a birther and he has since stated publicly and for the record several times that he thinks Obama was born in Hawaii.  That's a smear propagated by the MSM and various other libertards designed to discredit Hayworth because they much prefer McCain.

47 I'm no McCain fan but Malkin can alinsky with the best of them. McCain is not for Open Borders. That's a term coined by opponents of reform. Maybe we can photoshop McCain out of any photographs where he's pictured with conservatives.

48

So enjoy your little party while it lasts, dumbasses.

Thanks, Governor Crist.

49 Okay, I did not know Hayworth was a birther. To me that's a major strike against him. If running against McCain loses the seat then let's swallow and keep McCain.

50

44, term limits. We need them for all elected offices.

And, 29, I think that was a bit uncalled for.

51 33 Hey Boxxxy, Michelle hates McCain for good reason: he routinely  craps all over conservatives...

He is an 80/20. Agree with him 80% of the time, fight him the other 20%. Regardless, this unhinged hate/diva drama queen routine helped elect the worst thing to happen to this country since the Vietnam war.

52 "Frankly, if we're to have a moderate wing, I'd rather it be lead by Scott Brown than John McCain."

Ignorance is bliss...S. Brown is still an unknown whom Obama directly calls, whom Obama has designated as the "moderate" GOP leader. Kiss of death or of  fraternity, Brown doesn't "stand" for anything yet. The one thing he "stood" for passed without his vote, and still without his provocative arguments that ObamaCare is an illegal law having failed the protocol of legislation that requires debate and vote prior to the potus signature into law.

Playing with fire, McCain burned too many Arizonans too many times. Comparisons in voting records show McCain and Hayworth similar in degree of "conservative". But those comparative statistics do not take TOPIC into consideration. Hayworth is sworn to fight the equivalent to amnesty for illegal aliens, to fight against increased emigration from Mexico while the Mexican govt. refuses to fulfill its own obligations to its own citizens.  And McCain would never fight to repeal ObamaCare, whereas Hayworth just might well join the Constitutional Conservative voters.

McCain has had too many terms to complete work necessary for Arizona. He never measured up to Sen. Hayden nor to Sen. Goldwater. The only thing that you can count getting from McCain is a fat lip, kick in the privates, amnesty for illegal alien criminals, an open border that benefits international interests at the expense of national security and the Arizona economy, neoconservative socialist votes meaning votes for the military while voting against the Constitution, against citizens and against State Rights. Whatever judgment goes against McCain, the same principles apply to Dan Quayle's son running for Congress. These imports to the state never represent Arizonans except for only the country club snowbird GOPers.

53
McCain's a good man. Just not as good as he thinks

Bingo.  You can't be one of the Barons of the Senate as long as he has without being turned.  Thank you for your service John, and kindly GTFO.

54 Oh, I don't know, he does the best impersonations of Mr. Magoo and the Pillsbury Dough Boy that I've ever seen. That should count for something.

55 35 I heard Budweiser was hiring delivery guys down there.


He's got an  IT IN with the boss...

FIFY

56

I have the same reservations about McCain as anyone else but Hayworth is not the guy.

He lost his district to a democrat, his district was over 60% republican. He has a long record of off the wall crazy shit that will be used against him this fall just like it was in his last run for the house.

Purity is one thing, suicide is another. Hayworth is suicide.

 

57 Any alternative to Hayworth?

58 McCain is not for Open Borders. That's a term coined by opponents of reform.

Bullshit. McCain is for "amnesty", followed by a weak gesture towards enforcement, followed by "amnesty" again, repeat until we officially rename our country Mexico del Norte.

And, honestly, I'm an opponent of "reform". "Reform" is code for "fuck you, Americans".

59 Ace? That's sounds familiar. There used to be a blogger that called himself Ace.

60

I'm no McCain fan but Malkin can alinsky with the best of them. McCain is not for Open Borders. That's a term coined by opponents of reform. Maybe we can photoshop McCain out of any photographs where he's pictured with conservatives.

Oh puhleeze. Nobody is buying that anymore.

61

I second what Adjoran says.  And while there aren't any heavyweight dems running for the seat now, rest assured if Hayworth wins the primary the no-name dem nominee will suddenly decide they want to "spend time with their family", and they'll come up with somebody who can beat Hayworth.

62 If he does come out of the primary, maybe, just maybe the treatment he's gotten since 2008 has woken him up out of that "adoring press" fantasy.

And maybe, just maybe, if I call a piece of shit "ice cream", it'll be cool and sweet.

63

"Can somebody put me some effin' knowledge about Hayworth? What are his weak spots and would he have a chance in the general election?"

Weak spots:

1. Birfer (oh, it was just famewhoring and not real, he now says)

2. Lack of integrity (The above-mentioned Birfer famewhoring schtick for ratings, stayed buddy-buddy with Abramoff, et cetera).

3. Earmarks. Oughta go over real good with Tea Partiers like me.

4. He talks down to the voters. The ones dumber than he is all think they voted for Pat Buchanan in West Palm Beach during the Battle of the Chads in 2000 . . .

Chances in the general: roughly those of a snowball in Hell . . .

64 He is an 80/20. Agree with him 80% of the time, fight him the other 20%. Regardless, this unhinged hate/diva drama queen routine helped elect the worst thing to happen to this country since the Vietnam war.

Posted by: Boxy Brown at April 23, 2010 03:55 PM (PWM6Q)

You blame the election of Comrade Zero in Michelle Malkin? I don't see that. I don't follow the logic at all.

65 Like the tea party says we need to clean ALL the scum out of the House and Senate and start all over!

66 663. Earmarks. Oughta go over real good with Tea Partiers like me.

Hayworth was a Pig - at - the - trough.

67

Dopey new voters graduates from our esteemed campuses wouldn't care.  Here's a fun activity for a Friday afternoon; Google Bing
"George Mason University" Social Justice
and see our schools encouraging creepy radicals. GMU deserves some scrutiny for radicalizing Zachary Adam Chesser into Abu Talhah Al-Amrikee.

68 He talks down to the voters.

Like McShamnesty?

Remember the "Obama will make a good president" crap?

69

I would scream everytime Maverick would say something like "Obama would make a great president" or "Obama is a good man"..

..or when he would talk about his "friendjzh" across the aisle

70
Wait. Hayworth is one of those nuts who thinks a presidential candidate should show his birth certificate? Oh fuck that. McCain all the way!

71 I think McCain's principled liberalism will come back the moment he's got a new six-year lease on political life.

Exactly.

72

"And, 29, I think that was a bit uncalled for."

If Michelle's idealized form of immigration law were in place, she'd be living in the Phillippines with her parents. She's earned my modest little brickbat fair and square.

73 Ace? That's sounds familiar. There used to be a blogger that called himself Ace.

Really?  Interesting.  Any idea what happened to him?

74 Some one wake me when Mega Megs is running through the streets of DC naked with a bull whip up her ass. 

75 I'm not a huge fan of McCain.  Didn't support him in the presidential primary, and was not as enthused about electing him as I was about not electing Obama.  I think that sums up a lot of the GOP electorate last election and is just one of the reasons we lost.

However, unlike Kerry, McCain's Vietnam experience demands the utmost respect and admiration.  Plus, unlike Murtha, he has always stood by and supported our troops.  That does not entitle him to a free pass.  Nor should it be used to overlook the past that he has not always been supportive of the party, or the conservative movement as a whole.  Because of his wavering support (or non-support or outright antagonism) on key conservative issues, I am ready for a more conservative representative from the state of AZ.  I am not all that familiar with Hayworth, so I can't really say whether he would better represent conservatives than McCain.

But McCain does not deserve the same vitriol commanded by a Kerry or Murtha who have smeared our troops and blasted the US military.  I never agreed with all of McCain's policies and positions.  However, I have never doubted his love of our country.  To call him a "Piece of ___" is undignified.   Let's defeat him if we must, let's point out his hypocrisiy, let's elect true conservatives, but let's do it without the name calling.

76 O/T Dick Durbin subpoenaed to testify at the Blago trial.

77

If Michelle's idealized form of immigration law were in place, she'd be living in the Phillippines with her parents. She's earned my modest little brickbat fair and square.

And this, of course, justifies open borders forever. Sheesh.

78 "McCain is not for Open Borders."

McCain is for NAFTA and fought against the border fence, and has done NOTHING to get Congressional funding for the fence finally passed to be built /when hell freezes over.

McCain is not only for open borders with Mexico, he's done everything until this month to condemn everyone trying to enforce immigration law and clean up the Border Patrol of embedded participation in the drug and human smuggling trade.

79 "Right now it's more important we have a reliable vote than a mercurial leader."

Wah, Wah, Waaahhh?

Scott Brown hasn't shown himself to be a reliable vote so far. I know there's only been a few votes but he's not been a bastion of even moderate Repblican action on those and some of what he's said and those he has decided to hang out with (or not) aren't harbingers of him being a reliable Republican vote in the Senate.

In fact, I'd say that he's a younger McCain (and better looking) so if McCain loses, I think we only have a draw and not a win.

80 67 "You blame the election of Comrade Zero in Michelle Malkin? I don't see that. I don't follow the logic at all."

That's overstating what I wrote a bit, no? But when you have a conservative commentator attacking the last viable alternative to a stinking socialist EVERY FRIGGING DAY, with shrill, unhinged and unfair commentary about "McShaaaaamnisty" and "Juan McCAin" and "pandering to Daddy Yankee" etc... You have to wonder what her desired outcome for the election was.

A socialist president is going to sell more books for a conservative author...

81 77 Some one wake me when Mega Megs is running through the streets of DC naked with a bull whip up her ass. Posted by: dananjcon at April 23, 2010 04:02 PM (pr+up) Christ, that's the very moment I want to be anesthetized! 78 O/T Dick Durbin subpoenaed to testify at the Blago trial. Posted by: Cardinal Biggles at April 23, 2010 04:02 PM (Z1Ck1) Bwahahaha! Blago's gonna take everybody down with him!

82 Hayworth is one of those nuts who thinks a presidential candidate should show his birth certificate?

How dare him! Doesn't he know that is punching up? Doesn't he know that makes him a racist? Doesn't he know that we are all "citizens of the world" now?

83
...let's elect true conservatives, but let's do it without the name calling.

You're on the wrong blog, Lindsey.

And I'm just reciprocating the respect McCain has shown me.

84 83 67 
"A socialist president is going to sell more books for a conservative author..."

Should have put quotes around "conservative".

85 He is an 80/20. Agree with him 80% of the time, fight him the other 20%. Regardless, this unhinged hate/diva drama queen routine helped elect the worst thing to happen to this country since the Vietnam war.

Posted by: Boxy Brown at April 23, 2010 03:55 PM (PWM6Q)

Wha? you lost me at He.

Perhaps your concern will be appreciated else where.

 

 

86 I'm no McCain fan but Malkin can alinsky with the best of them. McCain is not for Open Borders.

What planet have you been on for the past 10 years?

He is an 80/20. Agree with him 80% of the time, fight him the other 20%.

80/20???? He had an ACU rating in 2008 in the low 60s.  That is pure RINO and with him supporting Amnesty II, crap and tax, gang of 14, blocking ANWR, and a host of other major Republican initiatives he has achieved DIABLO status.

I repeat, fuck him.

87 O/T: Seems as though Dick Durbin has been issued a supoena for the Blago trial.

88
The word electability should be stricken from our conservative lexicon in 2010. This is the year to try out something new called principles.

Fuck it. It's time to sink or swim with what we believe and hold near and dear to our hearts.

89 90 He had an ACU rating in 2008 in the low 60s.

????

It is 82%. A hell of a lot higher then Obamas was.

90 Methinks we have a bunch of McCain concern trolls on here today.

91

ALL YOUR FAULT

 

uh, I don't live in Arizona asshole.

92

If Michelle's idealized form of immigration law were in place, she'd be living in the Phillippines with her parents. She's earned my modest little brickbat fair and square.

And what might that idealized form be, genius--that we...gasp...follow the law?

Since her parents were in the U.S. LEGALLY, and she therefore obtained her citizenship LEGALLY, I don't think your brickbat is fair and square, asshole.

93 "not all that familiar with Hayworth"

Hayworth was AZ-R Congressman prior to the Democrat anti-Bush syndrome campaigns electing the current Democrat Majority Congress. A lifelong local Democrat politician and former HS govt. teacher Harry Mitchell was asked by Raum Emmanuel to campaign against Hayworth, and the rest is history.  Mitchell ran as a fiscally responsible Democrat, voting for ObamaCare, voting consistently pro-military benefits. It is unlikely that Mitchell will lose his seat any time soon, as he keeps his ties strong with his home base of former students, having been a good city councilman and mayor and state legislator for years.

94 Seems that Blago couldn't get a reality show on teevee so he's going to make his own at his trial, I hope he screws as many assholes as he can before they lock his sorry ass up!

95

If Michelle's idealized form of immigration law were in place, she'd be living in the Phillippines with her parents. She's earned my modest little brickbat fair and square.

Posted by: Cobalt Shiva at April 23, 2010

Go fuck yourself, Cobalt.  I don't agree with Malkin here, but she's earned the respect of anyone who calls herself a conservative.  And I don't know the details of her parents immigration, but I'm fairly sure (A) it was legal and (B) their not-yet-born daughter had no say in the choices they made.  She was born an American and bases her positions on immigration (and everything else) on what is best for her country.

96 Is Boxy actually Meggie Poo?

97 It is 82%. A hell of a lot higher then Obamas was.

In 2008 his rating was 63. Look it up if you are not to "concerned".

98 That's not the real Boxy Brown!  He's an imposter trying to steal Vanessa from Dewey!

99 100 Is Boxy actually Meggie Poo?

Posted by: Scott J. 

That you Michelle Obama?

100

"The word electability should be stricken from our conservative lexicon in 2010. This is the year to try out something new called principles. "

Absolutely.

The problem is getting everyone to agree on what, exactly, those "principles" are, especially since everyone seems to be saying that if their pet "principles" aren't given absolute priority over every other issue, they're taking their marbles and going home.

40 seats wasn't bad enough; we need to get to 20 seats.

"Fuck it. It's time to sink or swim with what we believe and hold near and dear to our hearts."

And when you sink . . . what's Plan B?

101
You know I'm not one to give commenters shit for their opinions. If someone doesn't like Michelle Malkin, that's fine.

But know this: Michelle Malkin has balls. And she's done more to advance conservatism than all of us combined. I don't have a microphone and I can't go on television so I thank God for people like Michelle Malkin who is my voice on a lot of issues.

102

92, so what is the voter to do when there is no candidate who doesn't offend their principles?

103

McCain has always been loyal to the Party.

The Party of McCain.

Always has. Always will be.

God only knows why Palin is sticking with him, particularly after he equivacated about supporting a possible Palin bid in the next election.

104 Thank you, Cobalt and Boxy, but many others have also told me that my ass is mighty tasty....

105

And when you sink . . . what's Plan B?

A new and better political party, onbviously.

106 I would like to see a link where Michelle wants to intern muslim Americans, that's BS!

107 98 Yeah, an "all fall together" scenario would be most sweet -- probably not going to happen, but it's nice to dream.

108 My friends, what a couple of unconstitutional laws between cronies friends, I ask you.

109 106
But know this: Michelle Malkin has balls.

Yeah, I heard she spent 5 and a half years in the Hanoi Hilton and got her teeth kicked in by the North Vietnamese.

110 If Michelle's idealized form of immigration law were in place, she'd be living in the Phillippines with her parents. She's earned my modest little brickbat fair and square.

No your little brickbat is FOS. She and her parents were here "legally". In addition, her grandfather served with MacArthur in the pacific theater in WWII. 

There was no "anchor baby" to it.

111 All I can say is that he's a favorite of Medved, King of the "don't you dare call Obama a socialist wing of talk radio". 

112 Do NOT insult Michelle Malkin in my presence. I might get angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry ....

113 112, 98 It may not happen, but it will definitely be fun to watch the weasles squirm.

114 That's great, boxy.  He's also pro-amnesty in the worst possible way. If you disagree with him, you're a racist. 

115

"Fuck it. It's time to sink or swim with what we believe and hold near and dear to our hearts."

And when you sink . . . what's Plan B?

Plan A is to run good comapaigns to win races.  Like Scott Brown and Chris Christie.  But let's be clear here...New Jersey is not Massachusetts and neither are Arizona or Alabama.

Uncontrolled immigration is KILLING the border states and will kill them completely when Obamacare and its Medicare mandates kick in.  Fact, not racism and McCain has been very, very slow in coming to that realization. 

116
Yeah, I heard she spent 5 and a half years in the Hanoi Hilton and got her teeth kicked in by the North Vietnamese.

Come on. You gonna pull the POW card? That's bush league. We're talking about electing the best governing body we can, here.

117

That's overstating what I wrote a bit, no? But when you have a conservative commentator attacking the last viable alternative to a stinking socialist EVERY FRIGGING DAY, with shrill, unhinged and unfair commentary about "McShaaaaamnisty" and "Juan McCAin" and "pandering to Daddy Yankee" etc... You have to wonder what her desired outcome for the election was.

A socialist president is going to sell more books for a conservative author...

I see what you mean. But those are all valid complaints concerning McCain. He is a RINO as much as Graham is, and would take us toward socialism in a Cessna 150 rather than an SR-71. He would not have been nearly as bad as Obama, but he is still a piss poor excuse for a conservative. And you say you should have put quotation marks around conservative author (Malkin). I suppose you consider her a right winger. Or possibly a fake conservative? The real blame for Comrade Zero in the oval office is the Republican party's inability to man up and put a candidate who is conservative and principled, along with a talented and charismatic communicator in front of the voters. McCain is Democrat lite, plain and simple.

118 And when you sink . . . what's Plan B?

Don't think you quite get it.  If we can't get people into office that will hold to conservative principles were all sunk anyway, no plan B possible.  It does us absolutely no good to have the Senate and House with a majority of people with the (R) behind their names if all they want to do is force through an Obama-Lite style agenda.  If that happens were all sunk, because this country goes bankrupt. 

119 before they lock his sorry ass up!
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt

I hope he gets the records opened. It wouldn't surprise me at all to find that this is all a foolish Obama attempt to cover Obama's ass over something said on the phone to Blago post election but prior to being sworn into potus office.

Blago was cute and hilarious on Trump's Apprentice.
Q: "Can you type?"
A: "Yes."
And he tried his best, give him that. Except he couldn't type, email, use a cellphone for anything except conversation, but not texting or even faxing as assignments required of him. It was obvious Blago never had to do a damned thing himself EXCEPT do as he was told. That dhimmi obedience to Mob Bosses is what Democrats reference as "executive experience."

120 Was today officially designated Squish Troll Day at AoS, and I missed the announcement?

121 @120: It's not just border states. I live in New York City and I see the detrimental effects of illegals every damned day.

122 LIke I said, McCain trolls. We need PA to track their IPs; guaranteed from AZ.

123 So, Boxy--unless you have POW experience yourself--STFU.

124

JD lost for reasons which had absolutely nothing to do with Abramoff. Get real.

The people of Arizona are flakes, many of whom are retired senior cittizens who get confused, trying to decide which sock goes on which foot when they get dressed in the morning. They fucked up when they didn't reelect JD, and they realize it now. JD is a very effective speaker for conservatives, as was evidenced by his prominence among Repulicans on the floor of the House.  His positives outweigh his negatives, and you'll be hard pressed to cite legitimate examples of the latter.

125

If we're going to take back the Senate, better to have McCain and a guarantted seat than run a weak and ineffectual candidate and lose the seat completely.  Too bad there wasn't a better candidate challenging McCain, but getting GOP control of the Senate is more important.  Longshot, yes, but more so when giving up this easy seat.

Though, yeah, there should be a retirement age.

126 sockpuppet, obviously

127 98 Seems that Blago couldn't get a reality show on teevee so he's going to make his own at his trial, I hope he screws as many assholes as he can before they lock his sorry ass up!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at April 23, 2010 04:10 PM (EcCc0)

Its gonna be sweet Nam, bring yer pop-corn and beer!

Must see TV fer sure.

 

 

 

128 Nil Butron is a Pud.

129 We can't endlessly reelect a man who doesn't represent our interests and aspirations to repay him for his steel in Vietnam.

It's time for him to go.

Welcome to the party, pal.

130 I would like to see a link where Michelle wants to intern muslim Americans, that's BS!
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt

That's probably the old criticism of Malkin endorsing FEMA Camps involving the loss of Liberty, stretched out like bubblegum to fit the Muslim tag.

131
Plan A is to run good campaigns to win races.  Like Scott Brown and Chris Christie. 

This is important and not enough people realize it. The takeaway lesson from both the Brown and Christie campaign is that neither man once took a shit on the Right to win favor with the middle.

Both men won the middle by sticking to their core beliefs and articulating their positions without hemming and hawing. This is winning formula. This is how we win.

McCain cannot do this.

132 Too bad there wasn't a better candidate challenging McCain, but getting GOP control of the Senate is more important.  Longshot, yes, but more so when giving up this easy seat.

We HAD GOP control of the Senate in 2005 and thanks to assholes like McCain we couldn't get a damn thing done.

And on top of that, I don;t think it is an easy seat with McCain running in it. He is now known as a big loser.

133

"No your little brickbat is FOS. She and her parents were here "legally".

Her parents came on a temporary visa, not a permanent residency visa . . . and Michelle was born during that time.

Under extant immigration law (then and now), (a) she's a citizen, (b) her parents were able to easily change status to permanent residency, and (c) were at the head of the line for citizenship.

Had her ideal been in place (no birthright citizenship for children of those born here on temporary visas), none of that would have happened.

 

134 122He is a RINO as much as Graham is, and would take us toward socialism in a Cessna 150 rather than an SR-71.

Hell of a lot easier to turn around a Cessna 150 then an SR-71.

"He would not have been nearly as bad as Obama, but he is still a piss poor excuse for a conservative"

He has shown that he is willing to do the right thing if you lean on hin. Obamna doesn't give a shit what you think. That was the choice.

" I suppose you consider her a right winger."

There is no, Repeat NO conservative argument to be made for helping to elect Barack Obama. Honestly, I consider a cynical opportunist. Look, my only allegiance is to the USA. Sometimes "least worst" us the best you get. We wouldn't have had socialized medicine, socialized automotive and world wide apology tours had we elected the old man and we could have worked to prevent his brain farts.

135

McCain has always been loyal to the Party.

The Party of McCain.

Always has. Always will be.

Posted by: TakeFive

BINGO!

136 It's not just border states. I live in New York City and I see the detrimental effects of illegals every damned day.

Half the new babies born in western Iowa are anchor babies. 

137 I don't hate Barack Obama for being a commie.
I hate Barack Obama for being a commie and making me vote for John McCain, but mostly for making me vote for John McCain.

138 Michelle is one of the best Conservatives out there IMHO.

139 So, Boxy--unless you have POW experience yourself--STFU.

Posted by: Circa

Nope.

140
The pro-McCain argument is with McCain we won't get Democrat's Cap & Trade, or Democrat's Amnesty -- we'll get a slightly watered-down Cap & Trade and a slightly watered-down Amnesty.

Yeah, that's much better. I'm with McCain.

McCain 2010
Half-Measures & Compromise Isn't Really That Bad

141

My friends....

Eh, that's all I got actually.

It's fuck-it-all-Friday after all.

142 BTW For those questioning whether Boxy Brown is a concern troll. I've read his posts for years at another now "off the rails" blog, I say no.

143 There is no point in arguing with these McCain concern trolls it is a waste of breath. (or key strokes)

144

"I would like to see a link where Michelle wants to intern muslim Americans, that's BS!"

Wrote a whole book on the topic: "In Defense of Internment." Basically whitewashed the internment of American citizens of Japanese descent as "military necessity" (which it was not). Draws explicit parallels to the War on Terror. Always wondered if she had investments in Garden Plot/REX 84 camps or something.

145 Clean up on aisle 29 please.

146 Seriously, why have wordpress links been banned?

147 Half the new babies born in western Iowa are anchor babies.

Hell, if you go visit a national park near where I live here in Ohio on a Saturday afternoon, nary a word of English is to be heard the entire day. Spanish is the unofficial language. 

148 (I've noticed no one ever gets huffy about the internment of German-American citizens during WWI and WWII.)

149 Can Hayworth win in the general?  Any info on that?

150 I dunno.  Hayworth strikes me as a world-class douchebag.

151 OT: Gov. of AX just signed bill 1070. Toughest Immigration Law in the country!

152 OT: Gov. of AZ just signed bill 1070. Toughest Immigration Law in the country!

153 Sorry for the dupe.  Wrong state abbreviation.

154 @136: Plan A is to run good campaigns to win races.  Like Scott Brown and Chris Christie. 

This is important and not enough people realize it. The takeaway lesson from both the Brown and Christie campaign is that neither man once took a shit on the Right to win favor with the middle.

Both men won the middle by sticking to their core beliefs and articulating their positions without hemming and hawing. This is winning formula. This is how we win.

McCain cannot do this.

Igoo, where would you like your Internets delivered?

155 154,

Do you work for the SEC and are you one of those porn freaks?

156 Michelle is one of the best Conservatives out there IMHO.

For the most part, I concur.

157 Of course I'm concerned!  Nothing but creationists and Nazis around here....

158 Can't we all just agree that Arizonans are assholes for giving us this choice? Meanwhile can anyone point out a major piece of conservative legislation that McCain either 1) was the author of or 2) didn't try to torpedo to suck up to the MSM? The only thing he's authored is the thoroughly UNCONSTITUTIONAL, anti-free speech McCain-Feingold piece of shit. For that alone he needs to go.

159

MPFS, that's one of the extra 7 Obama invented I guess.

The state flag has an electric guitar on it.

160 36 And he will bone us up the ass something awful if he ever gets booted off the team.

That could be a good thing.

161

Wrote a whole book on the topic: "In Defense of Internment." Basically whitewashed the internment of American citizens of Japanese descent as "military necessity" (which it was not). Draws explicit parallels to the War on Terror. Always wondered if she had investments in Garden Plot/REX 84 camps or something.

And after one too many sudden jihad syndromes at our malls and airports and army bases, and after capturing traitors fighting overseas, damn if she isn't right. Sorry, but Korematsu is still the law of the land--whatever we have to do to win, we do, even if it is excessive in retrospect.

162 Sorry for the dupe.  Wrong state abbreviation.

Huh.  I'd assumed AX was one of the 7 states that sprang into being, Twilight Zone-like, after election of Obamamessiah, who is never wrong.

163 161 OT: Gov. of AZ just signed bill 1070. Toughest Immigration Law in the country!

RRRRRRAAAAACCCCIIISSSSTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!

164

"(I've noticed no one ever gets huffy about the internment of German-American citizens during WWI and WWII.)"

Said internment applied only to those German-American citizens active in organizations loyal to Germany, and there was due process.

Japanese-American citizens were (a) stripped of their property via legalized looting and (b) forcibly relocated to s**tholes, and it was done universally, without any due process.

165

OT: Gov. of AZ just signed bill 1070. Toughest Immigration Law in the country!

Did she? AZ is on Pacific Time (when daylight savings time is in effect--a reason to move there since DST screws me up), and word was it wouldn't go out until 4PM

166 161 OT: Gov. of AZ just signed bill 1070. Toughest Immigration Law in the country!

That's just so unfair, these people didn't do anything wrong. They just want to come to America and vote for me and my comrades.

167 I'm glad we kept the Germans, some of the best German restaurants are in New Brunsfels, Texas and great Americans.

168

Japanese-American citizens were (a) stripped of their property via legalized looting and (b) forcibly relocated to s**tholes, and it was done universally, without any due process.

And we all feel bad about that.

Really.

You do know the irony of pointing out perceived Michelle Malkin inconsistencies when trying to pump up McCain, right?

169

**sigh** I love wiener-shnitzle.

 

 

170

Had her ideal been in place (no birthright citizenship for children of those born here on temporary visas), none of that would have happened.

I do not always agree with Ms. Malkin.

But this is a stupid, chicken hawk immigrant argument and now you're talking about her book about internment.

Ran out of arguments about McCain already, eh?

171 166 Of course I'm concerned!  Nothing but creationists and Nazis around here....

Posted by: "Boxy Brown"

Come on, you need to change the name a bit,

...and you forgot "birthers". But in this case that would be true.

172 Remember when Malkin got the vapors over the "W tries to milk the male horse" story?  I stopped reading her after that that.  She makes a lot of good points and gets the message out there, but she gets a bit too Freeper-hysterical for my tastes.

173

"And after one too many sudden jihad syndromes at our malls and airports and army bases, and after capturing traitors fighting overseas, damn if she isn't right."

Compare the number of those to the total number of Muslim-American citizens.

You're awfully damn willing to forfeit others' rights. How about your own? Or are those sacred?

Were you arguing as strenuously for interning all white Christian male US military veterans in the wake of Oklahoma City? I mean, allowing guys like me to go freely about their business ended up killing 169 people. Surely, we should've interned all those dangerous potential extremist terrorists, FOR THE CHILL-DRUN, right?

(Face palm)

"Sorry, but Korematsu is still the law of the land--whatever we have to do to win, we do, even if it is excessive in retrospect."

Those who would give up a little freedom to gain a little security deserve--and will likely receive--neither.

Freedom is free-and it isn't safe, either. Nor is it supposed to be.

174

Japanese-American citizens were (a) stripped of their property via legalized looting and (b) forcibly relocated to s**tholes, and it was done universally, without any due process.

Posted by: Cobalt Shiva


Good Ole' FDR.   A president I could really admire.

Interestingly enough, memos from J. Edgar Hoover, bogeyman of the Left, described this as "unnecessary" and "excessive". If teh gheys were all like J. Edgar Hoover and his "partner" Clyde Tolson, they would be all right.

175 Sending McVain into a much deserved retirement along with his fat assed, big mouthed daughter is a real plus. I just wish that I wasn't getting such bad vibes from Hayworth. He's right on a whole bunch of issues, but every time I see or hear him my internal asshole detector alarm panel goes bonkers.

176

"Ran out of arguments about McCain already, eh?"

I don't really like McCain, either, but Hayworth's just too fucking stupid & dishonest for words to adequately describe.

177

Were you arguing as strenuously for interning all white Christian male US military veterans in the wake of Oklahoma City? I mean, allowing guys like me to go freely about their business ended up killing 169 people. Surely, we should've interned all those dangerous potential extremist terrorists, FOR THE CHILL-DRUN, right?

(Face palm)

It's lefty troll time! Talking points straight from the Obamunists. Those "Teabaggers" are all closet Klansmen too right?

178 Some of you guys are losing it. You mock and deride McCain with some good and not so good witty zingers but then then get all righteous when someone does the same about Malkin. Pitiful.

179

...and you forgot "birthers". But in this case that would be true.

Posted by: Boxy Brown at April 23, 2010 04:43 PM (PWM6Q)

No, it isn't fucking true.

180 For what office is Malkin running, Forest Trees?  Pathetic.

181

I love Michelle, but I can't believe she would really endorse a dumbfuck like J.D. Hayworth.  I have gum on my shoe that is smarter than him.  I lobbied him back in the day, and believe me he is really, really, really stupid.  He is so stupid he didn't even get hooked up with Jack Abramoff until AFTER Abramoff was already under suspicion!

People who really wanted McCain out of the Senate should have found someone with an ounce of brains and integrity to run against him.  Hayworth is too embarrassing to even contemplate as part of a new Republican majority. 

182 Posted by: Boxy Brown at April 23, 2010 04:08 PM (PWM6Q)

His lifetime ACU is in the 80's, his more recent numbers have been more disappointing.  At first he had good numbers consistently (first term, 90's).  Looking at his numbers when he's NOT trying to get re-elected anytime soon, he runs in the mid to low 60's (and he shoots for 90's for election years to fool... um, people like you I guess, aamzing that it works on anyone).

So he's 80/20 overall, but 90/10 on election years, and 60/40 otherwise.  You do realize if he's re-elected that means he can run 4-5 years of 60/40 again right?

So yes, lifetime 80, more recently 60's except for election years.  Which means 60's is where he wants to be, and he's slipping from where he started, and your using his average and ignoring the recent years means you're either dumb or trying to cover for him as he slides into RINO.

Wow, either you're an idiot, or you really are a concern troll.  Let me guess, you've been a conservative all your life, but now we really need to "whatever the new liberal policy is".

183 There is a political tsunami that will hit in November. If the relative conservative from the GOP cannot win in AZ at this point in time, no matter who it is, then that state is lost to statism. Knowing this, this election will in all probability be decided in the GOP primary. This is the best chance at booting out a liberal "conservative" AZ will have for at least a generation. Seeing the way the constituents are promoting and advancing heavily right-leaning legislation signifies that a Democrat, or a liberal of any branding, doesn't have a chance at the Senate's seat this round.

Get McCain out now by hook or by crook or live to regret it. Hayworth will do fine. If he wins the primary, he'll take the state. Added bonus: he won't be kicking conservatives in the nuts periodically just to remind everyone he's in charge. We're where we are directly because of the poor representation McCain has given us. So, do you repeat that which has been done and been a failure expecting different results, or do you do something different?

The people of AZ know what to do. In the grand scheme of things, Hayworth is the lesser of evils.

184 If Michelle's idealized form of immigration law were in place, she'd be living in the Phillippines with her parents. She's earned my modest little brickbat fair and square.

This is wrong.  Malkin has no problem with legal immigration, and her family was here legally.

185 All you McCain trolls need to go over to the CNN thread now and defend CNN's analysis of ice melting.

186 So he's 80/20 overall, but 90/10 on election years, and 60/40 otherwise.  You do realize if he's re-elected that means he can run 4-5 years of 60/40 again right?

Not only that, the 20 part is always on divisive issues, like judges and immigration.  In other words, he's most likely to go off and do his own thing when we most need him to be a team player.

187 Support McCain, or there will be earthquakes and volcanoes, you creationist, birther Nazis!!!

188 Fuckin' A, Ace. Fuckin' A.

And everybody knows that is the highest compliment.

189

Her parents came on a temporary visa, not a permanent residency visa . . . and Michelle was born during that time.

Under extant immigration law (then and now), (a) she's a citizen, (b) her parents were able to easily change status to permanent residency, and (c) were at the head of the line for citizenship.

Had her ideal been in place (no birthright citizenship for children of those born here on temporary visas), none of that would have happened.

Her parents weren't here on a 90 day tourist visa- her father was training to be a doctor on an employer-sponsored visa.  It's a near-certainty that her parents would've obtained permanent status whether she was born here or not.

McCain advocates amnesty while opposing border security and enforcement of immigration law.  Always has.  He relishes to work with Democrats in a way that screws Republicans, with the Dems never returning the favor.

The only argument for not kicking his tired old ass out of the Senate is the question of whether Hayworth would be worse.  That we'd better off without McCain is a given.

190 Will McCain swing like a weathervane and vote more reasonably after the putative electoral tidalwave in November?

191 I saw we repay him for his service in Vietnam by letting him retire to a life of leisure, family, and relaxation. A much more dignified end than being wheeled into the Senate by your nursing staff, to cast one more vote before someone notices you're actually dead.

Seriously, he has a rich, hot wife.  Time to retire.

192 Keating 5

193
"my belief is the worst Republican is always better than the best Democrat."

This is what the crooks on both sides want their partisans to think.  It's a damn trick.

Don't fall for it. 

194

Meh, I'm not from Arizona, so my opinion doesn't really count.  Looks like a case of going with the least worst person -- and for all the crap McCain has pulled, that Hayworth doesn't appear to be the least worst.  In fact, he appears to be along the lines of old Georgie R. here (maybe not as bad, but still, not good).

I respect Malkin, but I think she might be indulging in a bit of MDS here; maybe a lot of conservatives are -- it's reasonable.

195 22 McCain is a son of bitch but it's not like he's Linc Chaffe.

No- Linc never ran for president.

196 I'm waiting for the requisite "Purity" post from Drew M to make my decision. haha

197 If McCain does manage to eke out a win, will he build my damn fence?

For the ten-thousandth time, no.  God, what is with you inbred racist hillbillies?  Alzheimers?

Now vote McCain, dumbass!

198 I had deep respect for McCain. His time has past. He offers nothing to the conservative cause except a dilution factor. That he is sounding conservative now damages any respect I had left for the man. It must be killing him that Lindsey Graham is stealing his shtick and "sounding reasonable" to the press. By John and thank you for your service.

199

If McCain wins by the end of his term he will be 105 years old.

Let's give him his gold watch now.

200 >>>And if anyone thinks J.D. Hayworth will be an effective senator kidding themselves I'm looking for a malleable senator. If Hayworth is weak of character, I don't really mind, since he'll be dependent on the base (unlike McCain) and so beholden to us.

201 That's a pretty good point, ace.

Also a good point is that he's already had his scandal, so he might just be squeaky the way Mccain was after Keating (which I don't blame Mccain for).

Mccain has to play to those idiots who demand centrism in everything, which is incoherent.

Hayworth depends on crazy right wingers (joke).

I guess I'm completely flipped to Hayworth now.

202 193"No, it isn't fucking true"-Posted by: maddogg

Hayworth is a birther, naaah na na naaah na.

196 "Which means 60's is where he wants to be, and he's slipping from where he started, and your using his average and ignoring the recent years means you're either dumb or trying to cover for him as he slides into RINO." Posted by: Gekkobear

So if "60s" is where he wants to be wouldn't that mean that he would be shooting up to 100% plus to maintain that 82% lifetime conservative rating? And this 60% rating on the Gekkobear scale... what criteria are you using to quantify this? This sounds very well researched and measured they way you present it. Is there a Gekkobear data institute?

201 Support McCain, or there will be earthquakes and volcanoes, you creationist, birther Nazis!!! Posted by: "Boxy Brown"

I even took a spin through the archives to see if I could track down your hash-marks. Dude, you have been a sock puppet forever. 

203 JD and Rush are longtime buddies. That says a lot for JD right there.

204 A #1 duke of New York...

205 Hayworth is an unknown but McCain is known. So at this point the message needs to be sent to the Republican insiders that was sent to the Dems in Mass. These are sober times and the old rules do not apply. I would contend that McCain has done great damage to the party and Hayworth is addition by subtraction-no matter how bad he is.

206 If McCain does manage to eke out a win, will he build my damn fence?

Oh, I'm sure he authorize the fence building this year in the run-up to the election. And then next year he'll tragically discover the federal government just can't afford to do what just about every homeowner does at some point.

But he will support the addition of new border patrol agents.  The following year those agents will be re-tasked with guarding weather stations dedicated to measuring global warming.

207

203

Her parents came on a temporary visa, not a permanent residency visa . . . and Michelle was born during that time.

Under extant immigration law (then and now), (a) she's a citizen, (b) her parents were able to easily change status to permanent residency, and (c) were at the head of the line for citizenship.

Had her ideal been in place (no birthright citizenship for children of those born here on temporary visas), none of that would have happened.

Kind of pointless.  Since as Americans most of us do want enforcement of the law.  Maybe even stricter in some cases.  But I wouldn't be shocked if a lot of us wouldn't be Americans today if the immigration laws we want were in existence when our immigrant ancestors arrived in this country.  How she got here as an American is really immaterial because she's always been American.  She's not being hypocritical at all or flip-flopping.

208 "Virtue untested is no virtue at all." Ace may be right, but.... I do not feel comfortable using that statement as a slam against a man with McCain's personal history.

209 John McCain:
- Voted against killing death tax
- Voted For the bailouts
- Voted against the Bush tax cuts
- AUTHORED amnesty for illegals
- AUTHORED McCain Feingold, which destroyed 1st amendment rights.
- Opposes interrogating Known Terrorists
- Favors Cap and Trade
- Thinks Obama is a swell guy, and refused to debate the marxist on any issues throughout his campaign while meanwhile getting all you suckers to think he's somehow tough and angry.

That's all I need to know to vote for the other guy.  I could give a rats ass who it is.  If the dem wins, great.  McCain IS a dem.  Not voting for the fucker.

And re McCain Feingold for you POS concern trolls that say that the evil corporations are destroying the country, my once and for all comment is to you: Since when can't a corporation make a polical comment?  If you don't like the corp, don't buy their product.  Last I checked companies cannot garnish your wages or imprison you if you disagree with them unlike government.

210 Everything with McCain comes with a caveat - I almost said he was solid on national defense (again) until I just remembered his "torture" flap. He's not a good guy - he's an unprincipled opportunist who will say anything to get elected then turn his coat when it matters. If he weasels his way back into office he will vote his vaunted "conscience" again and forget all about the last year's Conservative play-acting - guaran-f'ing-teed. Don't fall for it, Zona. If the choice were between McCain and a Democrat I'd support McCain, but my "hold-my-nose" pledge only applies to the general election. Hayworth's no prize in his own right but at least he doesn't have a decades-long track record of kicking his own constituents in the balls and calling them names.

211 How many commenters are still stuck on the "opposing McCain = Obama wins" argument ? False dichotomy unless you can show me something like a 20+ point diffferential in their odds in the general. Some names I recognize but many I don't - makes me wonder how many Mavroturfers we have among us.

212

McCain is what McCain is.   We know he sucks.

213 Reliable vote on what?

Certainly not reigning in spending. JD Hayworth is not a true conservative. At least not when it comes to fiscal conservative. He is a big lib spender.

Choose your poison wisely.

214

"Kind of pointless.  Since as Americans most of us do want enforcement of the law."

Hey, I support enforcing some of the existing immigration law. But a lot of it is a system of perverse incentives with no logic or common sense in the equation--and those pieces do need to change.

My bottom line is that it should be much easier to be here legally than it is to be here illegally (it isn't--for instance, it's much easier to deport an otherwise law-abiding legal immigrant on an unintentional technical violation than it is to deport an immigrant, legal or otherwise who has willfully committed a serious or capital crime and is locked up in jail or prison).

"But I wouldn't be shocked if a lot of us wouldn't be Americans today if the immigration laws we want were in existence when our immigrant ancestors arrived in this country."

When it's more than a couple generations back, you have a point . . . but when it's your own damn parents--i.e., only one generation back--that's a wee bit different.

215

@22: "Whacking McCain now, for this challenger, seems to be more personal than business."

It's a message hit - tells other RINOs to either get with the program, or gas up the dinghy and go fisihing with Fredo McCain.

216 McCain reminds me, more and more, of Lowell Weicker.  Weicker was another "Republican" Senator who became a bastion of Republican values, like clockwork, every 6 years.  And then, only for three or four months....

I was pleased for the opportunity to vote for Joe Lieberman to replace Weicker....

Better, I thought, a reliable Senator, even if he was reliably left leaning, than one who would mask his true colors, only to become a "maverick" every time I needed him to take the hard stance on an issue.

You could never count on Weicker's vote when you needed it...just as you can never count on McCain's...

Throw the bum out!

217 Michelle Malkin: It's [WAY PAST] Time For Maverick McCain[-RINO] To Go

218

It isn't that McCain can't be conservative, he often is. I really like the way he stands up for the US military and actually roots for the US to win when we're at war. Also, he is truly awesome when on his 'kill the earmarks' soapbox.

But he takes such motherfucking glee at slamming republicans over AGW and immigration and he hands ammunition to enemies of the republic at an alarming rate.

So fuck him, he's dead to me. Better we on the right have a thug like Hayworth that at least is on our side when the going gets tough.

Plus his precious Megan is a fucking twat that has the mistaken idea that she has something worth saying. He raised a real piece of work with that skank.

219

Next, let's all vow that we won't let NYT pick our candidates -- ever again.

220 Burn down the Big Tent!

221 ...there was little doubt that McCain couldn't actually be bought.

Well, yeah, he could. He just had to convince himself he was on the side of angels first.

Another raging self-righteous moron - the bad kind.

222

For the sake of argument, let's just say that Hayworth is as awful as many of you have been saying; a real corrupt POS.

As a senator, will he caucus with 'moderate' democrats to help them stop GOP legislation? Because asshole McCain did! That's reason enough. 

223 re: 222 - "I do not feel comfortable using that statement as a slam against a man with McCain's personal history." I do. I think we're talking about his history as a RINO senator. His history before that, valiant as it may have been, got him his job as Senator. No knock on McCain as a pilot and prisoner of war, but as a senator he's a useless old fool who needs to get sent home. He and the rest of his RINO herd -- Snowe et al -- are every bit as useful to conservatives as Arlen Specter was when he was a Republican. Which is to say not at all. McCain, you useless old fart, you stupid old man, you're fired. Go home and spend time with your idiot daughter. Again, nothing personal, but as a conservative you aren't conservative, and that's all that counts. And don't even get me started on him losing a winnable campaign back in 2008. Had he had a lick of sense and a drop of spirit, he could have won. So F him. And his dumbass daughter.

224 All RINOs....must leave the building. No room for RINOS anymore. They're done. Anyone supporting them will taste me.

225 Oh, and cheap womens' UGG boots. Can't go without supporting Google robot spammers, eh.

226 41 has it. Hayworth is ugly and crooked, certainly no Brown or Rubio. You're giving this seat to a Democrat.

227 "I think, on the whole, McCain's a good man. Just not as good as he thinks." Problem is, I don't think Hayworth is either. A little digging and Hayworth just doesn't look that good. And I hate McCain's previous views on illegal immigrants, but things have changed regarding that, to the point that I think he finally gets it that we need to control this crap. He ain't going back to his old views there. Plus he impresses me in the area of national defense and foreign affairs. He's not a pussy in his views of how to deal with our enemies. And it seems that he's been right more than a couple important times in the area of use of the military.

228 McCain's a good spokesman, when he's on our side, but he's not on our side enough, and we've got better spokesmen waiting in the wings.

We've been burned by the guy more than enough. Time to give someone else a turn, but make it clear to the FNG that pulling a McCain is unacceptable and there will be a price to pay if it happens.

229 Why I think McCain won't go back to his bad old ways on immigration. Because he lives part of his time in Arizona. Hey, I live in Michigan, and to me illegal immigration is a political issue. I know people who live in Arizona, and it isn't a political issue, it is watching your state turned into a shithole. Those drug people are animals, and Arizonans, including moderates, liberals, and native Americans are done playing games with them. A lot of people in Arizona are turning into conservatives on the issue of illegal aliens and it isn't because they want to win elections, it is saving a great state.

230 nerdygirl,

No dice WRT McCain. We've seen this pattern before. It's his modus operandi. Conservatives cannot trust him. Watching him spin his non-Maverickism and non-amnesty spin, not to mention all of the other seriously consequential small-government issues indicates that independents and moderates should not trust him either. He has provided cover for Obama and the Democrats at some of the worst and most damaging moments and at the expense of the GOP. It's time for someone else to take the reins.

231  The lack of knowledge about Hayworth, doesn't stop  some here from saying  rather silly things.
 J.D. is a straight down the line conservative, who has written a book on anti-illegal immigration. He was against the porkulas bill, and the bailouts. He is a good Christian family man, that will serve Arizona well. The winner of the Republican primary will be the next Senator, the Dem has NO CHANCE. Quit repeating third and forth hand knowledge of J.D.

232 Wow, some of the rubes are still buying mcain's schtick!
they don't call it the stupid party for nothing.

233 Oooooh John,  you're still my hero!!! (sigh)

234

Ooooh daddy, you're still my hero, too. (sigh) 

_{Well, providing that you'll bribe me to keep my mouth shut about what I know about you.}

235

Oooh John, I only have to look in a mirror to see that you're still my hero, too. (sigh) 

Why, only just yesterday,  my ditzy snook-ums told me that, after a few drinks, even her pool boy reminds her of me when I was younger.  (A lot younger.)

236 I'm traveling and bandwidth is the suXXor, so I didn't read the whole thread.....but it seems to me that a valid question might be, "what state should McCain be the Republican Senator for?" In other words, where would he be the most conservative candidate that can get elected in that jurisdiction?

Seen that way, it's easy to say that McCain would make a great Senator for Mass. Or Maine. But it'd be tough to find someone who would say Arizona.

237 Yeah, I heard she spent 5 and a half years in the Hanoi Hilton and got her teeth kicked in by the North Vietnamese.

Posted by: Boxy Brown at April 23, 2010 04:16 PM (PWM6Q)

Oh, fucking SNAP!

238 "If the relative conservative from the GOP cannot win in AZ at this point in time, no matter who it is, then that state is lost to statism."

Ok, but how is Hayworth remotely, let alone relatively, conservative? It really does matter who it is, and as much as I dislike McCain, anyone but Hayworth --  or else you get a Democrat.

239 This is wrong.  Malkin has no problem with legal immigration, and her family was here legally.

Posted by: Ace's liver at April 23, 2010 04:58 PM (XIXhw)

It has already been pointed out that Malkin only supports pregnancies from parents here on permanent residency visa. Hers parents were tourists.

240 Tattoo do have a way with words, don't she? LOL

241 Perhaps the "senteint" one will come along, and translate Tattoo's words for us. Besides Ms. Tatttoo, he's the only one here who is fluent in all dialects of gibberish and bullshit.

242 Tattoo De Plane: "Ok, but how is Hayworth remotely, let alone relatively, conservative? It really does matter who it is, and as much as I dislike McCain, anyone but Hayworth --  or else you get a Democrat."

You don't know what you're talking about. You're starting to sound concerned. A bit too concerned. But let's forget the general, national trending Right and the acute, AZ state trending Right under the current political dynamic as a result of Obamanation. Let's just look at the record. For simplicity, I'm taking the American Conservative Union ratings as a metric since it is a pretty decent measure of "Rightness."

I made a table going as far back as I could until the data became intermittently available up until Hayworth left office. This is a record of his final 8-9 years. For relativity I included Tom Delay, the de facto historical leader of the Right and the GOP in the House, and Ron Paul, a semi-populist conservative/libertarian.

See http://www.acuratings.org/:

2006 --------- 2006 - 2005 - YOS - Life
Hayworth ----- 96 --- 100 --- 12 --- 97.56 -- 2nd most conservative Representative in AZ
DeLAY (TX) - 40 --- 88 --- 22 --- 92.88 -- * left mid-term, but votes not made not averaged
Paul (TX) ----- 76 --- 76 --- 16 --- 82.26

2005 --------- 2005 - 2004 - YOS - Life
Hayworth ----- 100 --- 96 --- 11 --- 98 -- 1st most conservative
DeLAY (TX) - 88 --- 100 --- 21 --- 95
Paul (TX) ----- 76 --- 78 --- 15 --- 83

2004 --------- 2004 - 2003 - YOS - Life
Hayworth ----- 96 --- 88 --- 10 --- 97 -- 2nd most conservative
DeLAY (TX) - 100 --- 92 --- 20 --- 96
Paul (TX) ----- 78 --- 71 --- 14 --- 83

2003 --------- 2003 - 2002 - YOS - Life
Hayworth ----- 83 --- 100 --- 9 --- 97 -- 5th out of 8
DeLAY (TX) - 88 --- 92 --- 19 --- 96
Paul (TX) ----- 75 --- 76 --- 13 --- 84

2002 --------- 2002 - 2001 - YOS - Life
Hayworth ----- 100 --- 100 --- 8 --- 99 -- 1st most conservative
DeLAY (TX) - 92 --- 100 --- 18 --- 96
Paul (TX) ----- 76 --- 70 --- 12 --- 84

2001 --------- 2001 - 2000 - YOS - Life
Hayworth ----- 100 --- 100 --- 7 --- 99 -- 1st most conservative
DeLAY (TX) - 100 --- 88 --- 17 --- 96
Paul (TX) ----- 70 --- 76 --- 11 --- 85

2000 --------- 2000 - 1999 - YOS - Life
Hayworth ----- 100 --- 100 --- 6 --- 99 -- 1st most conservative
DeLAY (TX) - 88 --- 92 --- 16 --- 96
Paul (TX) ----- 76 --- 92 --- 10 --- 87

1999 --------- 1999 - 1998 - YOS - Life
Hayworth ----- 100 --- 100 --- 5 --- 99 -- 1st most conservative, ACU "House Best & Brightest"
DeLAY (TX) - 92 --- 96 --- 15 --- 97
Paul (TX) ----- 92 --- 88 --- 9 --- 88

"YOS"  - Years of Service
"LIFE" – Lifetime score average

<sub>The American Conservative Union tracks a wide range of issues before Congress to determine which issues and votes serve as a dividing line to help separate those Members of the U.S. House and Senate who protect liberty as conservatives and those who are truly liberal.

As a result, the ACU Ratings of Congress has throughout its 38 Editions included a wide variety of issues covering votes on taxes, wasteful government spending, cultural issues, defense and foreign policy.

The votes selected in this edition of the ACU Ratings of Congress are not always considered the “most important” votes as defined by others, instead the votes selected are chosen to create a clear ideological distinction among those casting them.

These ratings have throughout the years become a go-to guide to determine whether an elected officialÂ’s philosophical rhetoric matches his or her record. ACUÂ’s purpose in this guide is to inform the public, in an unbiased way, on where individual members of Congress fall on the ideological spectrum.</sub>


So, Hayworth had virtually a 100% ACU rating except for one observed aberrant year and that 83% ain't bad. His yearly rating and accumulative lifetime rating trumped even DeLay, both of whom left Ron Paul in the dust. To get a "House Best & Brightest" award from the ACU means that the legislator received a 100% rating for the year; so, Hayworth "won" that most years he was in office. His last ACU lifetime rating was 97.56. That's hella good.

In summary Hayworth is a helluva conservative. I don't even need to look up McCain's record to know that Hayworth's stomps McCain silly. But by all means, look it up to confirm your doubts.

I'm even more inclined to back Hayworth now, so thanks for making me do some more homework.

243 But in the end this isn't about good men or rewarding men for prior service.

I have written this many times, McCain has used up all of his hero points.  Duke Cunningham lost his all at once; it took McCain a few years.

244 Perhaps the "senteint" one will come along, and translate Tattoo's words for us.

Funny, you forgot the (sic) with the superfluous comma. And why is that Nintendo 64 late to the circle jerk again? Like you, his joystick's been in the box since 1996, and any practice would improve his game.

245

I know that some of the AoSHQ morons and moronettes will disagree with me, but I absolutely saw no up side in voting for Juan McNotMaverick in 2008.  He advocated many of the same positions as Obama with the exception of being something of a fiscal hawk.  However, I had no doubt that he would go along with any lunatic progressive program that the Democrat-controlled House and Senate sent him.

I knew he lost the second after he suspended his campaign and then voted for TARP.  I could not cast my vote for such a weasel.

Hopefully the voters in Arizona will let him enjoy funemployment soon.

246 Oh, sock!

Hey, your long answer explaining why lumping Hayworth in with Tom DeLay and Ron Paul is hilariously hilarious is in the AZ Immigration Bill thread with the other Paultard comments.

247 Somehow, I doubt Porkulus and Healthcare would have been signed into law under President John McCain. Or this new financial bill. Or bailouts of GM. Someone went to an awful lot of trouble triggering a financial meltdown right before the elections while McCain was ahead in the polls. That person did not share your views that both candidates were the same, or have the best interests of America in mind. National security -- that's another area where Obama and McCain were miles apart. I want McCain to stay in the Senate and continue reminding the 52% how bad they fucked up in 2008. Especially when the choice is a man who would bravely stand up and denounce horse marriage.

248 Tattoo De Plane:

"Oh, sock!

Hey, your long answer explaining why lumping Hayworth in with Tom DeLay and Ron Paul is hilariously hilarious is in the AZ Immigration Bill thread with the other Paultard comments."

I didn't post it there and none of my socks did either. I picked DeLay and Paul just as a relative measure. I could've selected any number individuals. It's just that at the time, Ron Paul and Tom DeLay were two of the biggest names considered conservative and pretty much everyone would know them or have some idea of their philosophy. My point stands. Hayworth was a conservative. He remains a conservative. He's more conservative than most in the GOP. He's much more conservative than McCain and reliably so. Backing McCain because he'd be the better "conservative" voice is provably wrong. It's especially wrong now.

249 Well, this is now, and we know about DeLay's trips across the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, Indian casinos and illicit contributions. We know how Ron Paul is a kook on national security, a racist and a truther, how he admittedly feeds his supporters' paranoia while they keep contributing to his campaigns, how he's full of shit on fiscal responsibility since he faithfully brings pork to his TX district... and Hayworth fed at the trough with the best of them, too. Calling McCain a sell-out is fine, but the issues where he supposedly was doing that on are areas where there should be a lively debate -- immigration and the environment. But on spending, McCain has been rock solid. Even with his misguided TARP support, he thought he was doing the best for the economy including people's life savings and pensions.

250 It makes no sense to me that Giulliani ran a bad campaign, is a moderate, but he gets a pass on it, while everyone takes swings at McCain, who has been a consistent social and fiscal conservative and a national security hawk.

251

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Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 24, 2010 10:45 AM (mHQ7T)

 Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 24, 2010 11:11 AM (mHQ7T)

 

We've got a live one here - a genuine, authentic loony. Throw a net over her. LOL

_{(Psssst, you've got to read all of her comments on both threads. She's nuttier than a fruit cake.)} LOL

252 Someone with a dick in their mouth likes playing armchair shrink. ITzbJ! I think Freud would say your oral fixation comes from your mom breastfeeding you well into your teens. And she hasn't kicked you out of her basement yet.

253 Oh, I almost forgot. BLOW ME!

254

"Mitchell ran as a fiscally responsible Democrat, voting for ObamaCare, voting consistently pro-military benefits. It is unlikely that Mitchell will lose his seat any time soon, as he keeps his ties strong with his home base of former students, having been a good city councilman and mayor and state legislator for years. " 

Posted by: maverick muse at April 23, 2010 04:10 PM (H+LJc)

Then I believe it's a good thing that AZ is full of folks who have moved in over the past 10 years like myself.  I for one don't care how good a councilman he was or mayor or state legislator - I'm voting against him.  He would not meet his constituents face to face to discuss the health care concerns during the recess - instead did a telephone town hall where those with cell phones could not access.  He is a coward and deserves to be voted out for not listening to his constituents.

255 wow! I read AOS every day and today is the first day I am posting! Seems everyone woke up on the wrong side of the bed! :-) I live in AZ. I'm not thrilled with Sen Mc C. BUT JD doesn't seem too much better or worse (?) Certainly NOT a fan of John's daughter. Wish she would go away or stop talking/blogging. She makes things a lot worse, in my opinion. I agree with a lot of you about what MM says. She does go on, (and on) and even tho' we HAD to hold our nose and vote for Sen Mc Cain, she made the pulling of the lever, so to speak a lot harder. BUT on the other hand, she is the voice of us conservatives, which is being suffocated, more and more every day. We need a strong voice for 2012!

256 sandi: "I read AOS every day and today is the first day I am posting! Seems everyone woke up on the wrong side of the bed!"

It only seems like that on days ending in a "y." What, your bed isn't heptagonal?

257 "The real blame for Comrade Zero in the oval office is the Republican party's inability to man up and put a candidate who is conservative and principled, along with a talented and charismatic communicator in front of the voters. " WELL SAID

258 ONE of Sen Mc Cains biggest problems, is is daughter. She, is a self promoting wench. Honestly, our family believes that his wife and daughter are "closet" liberals who don't do him any favors by their endorsements, blogs, tweets, and engagements. I mean, Megan does the view, after they tore the Senator a new one? Really? Such loyality. Living in AZ, it is very hard to be represented by the senator. He could have won in 08 but his campaign was run horribly, half hearted and by dimwits....and so we got the shaft. Thanks for nothing John. Was he a great candidate? probably not. Would he have been better than who is in the WH now? In my view, hands down, yes. He is all we have, in AZ and most times the on again/off again maverick doesn't seem engaged ...Unfortunately JD isn't a great alternative.

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