1 Dead cat

2 I pledge to host 1 neighborhood BBQ this summer for every point Dumbo-ears falls below 50%.

Le the Sam Adams and Steaky freedom flow.

3 I think that part of the reason Obama's popularity hasn't dropped further is that people hate Congress so much and he's done a fairly effective job acting like he has nothing to do with whatever Nancy and Dingy Harry are up to at any given moment. 

4

I think you are right Ace. People will not admit they are wrong until they can latch onto a few things that make themselves feel better so they can turn on Obama more publicly.

5 Ace I don't know why you think there isn't any news happening.  Haven't you heard?  There's SNOW during the winter!  And its in the northern half of the US and heading towards the east coast!  This is the biggest news of the year!

6 Obama got a large chunk of the urban vote, and urban voters have been tolerating, often reelecting, failures for decades.

I'd be interested in seeing how this breaks down geographically. My guess is its the Rustbelters that have turned on him..

7 Peter Robinson: If there is one thing you would say to the President to steer the economy around right now what would it be?

John Taylor: Do not raise taxes.

Richard Epstein: Amen....And abandon these regulatory boondoggles.

8 I think the "blame Bush" thing has a lot more legs than many of us would like to acknowledge.

I think many people buy it, and are giving Obama the benefit of the doubt.

9

Obama has a mini-me!

http://tinyurl.com/yev7txn

Just trying to help out on this no news day.

10 Obama got a large chunk of the urban vote, and urban voters have been tolerating, often reelecting, failures for decades.

They also have detailed knowledge of hyper-super-majorities(aka one party socialist rule) yet still cannot wrap their heads around this fallacy.

11 When I look at him, Obama rates a big fat 0. Having friends like Ayres or Dohrn (Bill fuckin' standing on the flag unrepentant bomber Ayres!), and having attended a God-damn-America and whitey "church" for 20 years... yet claiming to have never heard a word of the reverend Wright's sickening sermons...

This man is President?

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH AMERICA?

12 Compounding the reluctance of people to admit their own wrong judgments is the reluctance of people to think badly of our first African-American President.  They will resist as long as possible coming to the conclusion that he's unqualified for the job and only won because people wanted to give a person of color the chance to prove himself in the nation's highest office.

13 also, while obamacare is still in Congress, those that love bambi & want socialized medicine are holding out hope.  the "hope n change" type hope

14 Rasmussen polls voters, the others poll Americans which, I believe, includes convicted felons, who can't vote, and potential Obama voters too disillusioned to vote. Also since liberal women are the least informed of the electorate, they will peel-off last.

15

Why, I'd probably still be right here, but posting something else from Feministing right now.

Thank goodness for cheap polls, then.

I think the fear of being called racist will keep Obama's support artificially high. I can imagine support for everything he's trying to do in office dropping into the 20's while his "personal popularity" stays around 50.

16
Y-not

I would guess fifty percent of the people who say they like Obama personally but don't like his policies really don't like him personally either, but its a thin enough distinction to assuage the fear of being labeled a racist.

17 #8 Yep. Also, I agree with Ace, I know I hate to admit I was wrong about something. Ever. Although thinking about it now, I really can't recall many times I was wrong. Oh, that one time in 1995, but that's about it.

18 With his cheering msm and the constant passing the buck he remains teflon...........

19

I track Obama's popularity by my token hippie friend. She actively campaigned and registered voters to get this noozle elected.

When he was sworn in she had 8 Obama bumper stickers on her car. Everytime he does something she finds particularly offensive (like Porkulous) she takes a sticker off.

She's down to 2.

I predict she won't have any by the end of the summer and will be joining the Republican party by Christmas.

20

why would you ever vote for someone for President (whether they be black or otherwise) merely to "give them a chance"? 

kinda a big office for training wheels?

21 There are no doubt still people out there telling pollsters that they approve of the O cause they would feel racist saying otherwise. And no one wants to feel racist. If O was even lighter complected than he is and had even less of a negro dialect than he does (ie. if he was a honkie muthafuck) those people would be answering in the negative also.

22 I think that part of the reason Obama's popularity hasn't dropped further is that people hate Congress so much and he's done a fairly effective job acting like he has nothing to do with whatever Nancy and Dingy Harry are up to at any given moment. 

Posted by: Y-not at February 05, 2010 02:31 PM (sey23)

I love this.  We all know, of course, that big Democrat losses in November won't be Obama's fault becuase nothing is ever Obama's fault but know we know the mechanism.

"I think it's very important for us to have a methodical, open process over the next several weeks, and then let's go ahead and make a decision," Obama said Thursday night.

"And it may be that ... if Congress decides we're not going to do it, even after all the facts are laid out, all the options are clear, then the American people can make a judgment as to whether this Congress has done the right thing for them or not," the president said. "And that's how democracy works. There will be elections coming up and they'll be able to make a determination and register their concerns one way or the other during election time."

23

What do these polls tell us? Well, um... that Obama is just as unpopular as we thought he was.

The Prez is who we thought he was.  We polled on him in the summer Â— who the hell takes a third quarter of the fiscal year like it's bullshit? Bullshit! We polled on him in the third quarter — everybody polled registered voters Â— the Prez is who we thought he was! That's why we took the damn poll. Now if you want to crown him, then crown his ass! But he is who we thought he was! And we let him off the hook!

 

24
Remember there is one thing that will never happen:  Barry will never sink as low in polling as Bush did.  The simple reason is the lamestream media will cheerlead Barry with the same unflagging unanimity that the had when they unstintingly trashed Bush.  That will put a sort of concrete floor on Barry's ratings.  The lamestreamers cannot die off fast enough.

25 I now see that others have covered this ground.

26 I think the fear of being called racist will keep Obama's support artificially high. Agree. Also, his nearly unanimous support from the African-American community has to be good for 5% to 6% of his total, and I don't see that level of support changing anytime soon. But that support does not necessarily transfer to other Dems. If I were them I would be very nervous about November and beyond.

27 I could never imagine him dipping below forty. Still can't, no matter what happens. Assholes + fuckheads = 40%. Rock-hard bottom.

28 His self absorbed arrogance is what is bringing him down, above all.  That's the kind of thing that is always just there, and explains the slow steady drip.   Sure, some events accelerate the pace more than others.  His unwillingness to call off the dogs on healthcare is driven by the notion that he can charm us into accepting the unacceptable.  That's the best example, but there are others.

I just saw this on Nat'l review, and I think it illustrates my point perfectly...

http://tinyurl.com/yl4vz3r

29 #8 Yep. Also, I agree with Ace, I know I hate to admit I was wrong about something. Ever. Although thinking about it now, I really can't recall many times I was wrong. Oh, that one time in 1995, but that's about it.

Posted by: mikeyslaw at February 05, 2010 02:41 PM (QMGr1)

"I was wrong" are three of the most liberating words in the English language, when used alone and in that order.  The poster boy for the People Who Have Never, Ever Been Wrong (According to Them) is Charles Johnson.  He will create the most flimsy and absurd argumentative edifices to prove that he has never been wrong, and even if they don't convince anyone else, they're absolutely irrefutable to himself.

30 About half of everyone you meet is full of shit, crazy, or stupid. These polls bear that out.

31
Barry will never sink as low in polling as Bush did


Oh I don't know about that,I could think of several scenarios one of them being God forbid another major terrorist attack on U.S. soil

32

that bump was frightening, thank god it's going away.

his approval rating will never drop below 40% ppl are too adverse to political incorrectness for that to happen.

33 Damn, forgot to link it...

http://tinyurl.com/yl4vz3r

34 It's still not quite safe to actually mock Obama as a charlatan and miserable failure.  When we pass that tipping point, it's express elevator to hell for his poll numbers.

He'll crush Jimmy Carter in his fall.

35 WOnder why Rass polls have him coming back?

36 @33 Dave S
This clown is sounding more and more psychotic every day.

37 Remember there is one thing that will never happen:  Barry will never sink as low in polling as Bush did.  The simple reason is the lamestream media will cheerlead Barry with the same unflagging unanimity that the had when they unstintingly trashed Bush.  That will put a sort of concrete floor on Barry's ratings.  The lamestreamers cannot die off fast enough.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 05, 2010 02:48 PM (AZGON)

I think that even the MSM - with the exception of the New York Times - will eventually succumb to the desire for self-preservation and stop the Obama cheerleading in order to stanch the hemorrhaging of readers and viewers who've gotten fed up with the disconnect between their news outlets and reality.  We see a little of that today, with the AP calling the fall in the unemployment rate "unexpected" and quoting an economist about the "jobless recovery" - not to mention their calling this the "Great Recession."

38 "...this jugeared jackass with the lovely trouser-creases."

Wins Best Descriptive Phrase of the Day!

39 Barry will never sink as low in polling as Bush did


Oh I don't know about that,I could think of several scenarios one of them being God forbid another major terrorist attack on U.S. soil

Posted by: bulwark at February 05, 2010 02:53 PM (MdzCh)

Oh, well, give it 3 to 6 months, then.

40 I think that even the MSM - with the exception of the New York Times - will eventually succumb to the desire for self-preservation and stop the Obama cheerleading in order to stanch the hemorrhaging of readers

Perhaps.  But remember, it's religion with these people.  They may be willing to be martyrs.

41

Many current Obama supporters in these polls will not pull the lever for Obama or his chosen candidate in the privacy of a voting booth.

People will kid themselves in public for alot longer than they will do so in private when there are real consequences for not admitting their error.

42 Well, since 36% of the populace has a positive view of socialism, he won't ever go below that, as for the 12% above that, not sure what they are still seeing in him that rates their approval.

43

I think the explanation is that about a third of U.S. population wants their "free" goodies and they see Obama as a means to that goal.  The Progressives have done a good job over the decades in conditioning a lot of folk to be utterly dependent on the federal government.

44 I think the reason it's hard to get a big consistent drop off is because the MSM's pimping for Obama. Fluffers they are.

45

why would you ever vote for someone for President (whether they be black or otherwise) merely to "give them a chance"?

kinda a big office for training wheels?

Posted by: kelley in virginia at February 05, 2010 02:44 PM (TEIZr)

That's what Joe Biden said: “Right now I don’t believe he is (ready). The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the- job training. I stand by the statement.”

That's what Hillary Clinton said: "Now voters will judge whether living in a foreign country at the age of 10 prepares one to face the big, complex international challenges the next president will face. I think we need a president with more experience than that. Someone the rest of the world knows, looks up to, and has confidence in. I don't think this is the time for on the job training on our economy or on foreign policy."

That's what Sarah Palin said: “The real problem is that these warnings from Joe Biden are similar to his earlier assessment of Barack Obama. It wasn't so long ago that he said Barack Obama wasn't up to the job, and that, quote, 'the presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training.'"

That's what John McCain said: "Sen. Obama was wrong about Iraq and the surge. He was wrong about Russia when they committed aggression against Georgia. And in his short career, he does not understand our national security challenges. We don't have time for on-the-job training, my friends."

But the 52-percenters didn't see it that way. Or maybe they really thought that Joe Biden would provide adult supervision to mentor little Barry along.

46 Barry will never sink as low in polling as Bush did

What with the MSM fluffing Barry and Bush getting bashed by them every fucking day, every fucking day since he left office by the way,  plus not standing up for himself, probably not. 

47 Perhaps.  But remember, it's religion with these people.  They may be willing to be martyrs.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 05, 2010 03:00 PM (AZGON)

The Sulzbergers definitely are willing to die for the cause.  (Although they've been pretty ruthless with the unions at the Boston Globe, so they're willing to look at the cost side of their operations if not the lousy product side.)  I think the rest of the MSM companies have more diffuse ownership and thus have to answer to the shareholders more reliably.

48

one reason I believe O will never drop below 40% is that when a huge contingent of your voting bloc doesn't pay taxes and believes that while the Dems suck, the GOP want to throw them into a wood chipper and starve their grandma, they will at least tepidly support him.

Also, do you seriously believe that the people who believed that Obama would pay for their cars or heating bills out of his stash are going to abandon him?

49 Your sudden drop may still happen as the DOW continues to dive.

50 Nothing is getting done in Congress (thankfully).

I think if they were passing healthcare and cap and tax, you would see his numbers go down.

Or not.. some disaffected lefties are currently pissed at him for not doing any of those things.. so it might be a wash.

51 Obama's floor support is around 40%. How do I get there? Well, about 1/3 of the American public will believe anything. For years survey's have consistently shown that about 1/3 think the CIA killed JFK, that the moon landing was fake and that our government knew about 9/11 in advance (if it didn't plan it). Its not always the same 1/3 for each whopper, but you can always get to that number. So The One starts with a 33% base, that kooky fringe who really think he is the Messiah. But, his approval among blacks is 96%!!! Blacks are about 12% of the population. We can assume the 1/3 of kooks are proportionately black on these other nutty theories (4% of the population). But with that approval rating we have to assume almost all blacks (12% of the population) support The One. So we have to the difference (nearly 8%) to get to about a 40% base of support.

52

Also, do you seriously believe that the people who believed that Obama would pay for their cars or heating bills out of his stash are going to abandon him?

Posted by: eddiebear at February 05, 2010 03:16 PM (wnU1W)

Well, when the bill collectors are knocking and they find out that telling the guy at the door isn't taking "The President is good for it" as an answer, they might feel a little used and betrayed.

53

Barry will never sink as low in polling as Bush did

BushÂ’s big drop-off occurred when he lost the base after the Harriet Myers debacle. He had already lost the liberals in the beginning.  The HM thing was the last straw for a lot of people.

 

Obambi will never lose most of his base.

54 I'll go with fear of looking racist for $1000 Alex.

All of his policies are tanking hard but he maintains higher numbers personally. It can be only one thing.

55

Fox has a new poll over at their site that says people want to vote out ALL incumbents, including Rs.

Americans dispense just about as much disdain for Republicans (42 percent favorable; 46 percent unfavorable) as Democrats (42 percent favorable; 48 percent unfavorable), according to a Fox News poll released Friday.

Sounds like BS to me since in the "real" polls the Rs are coming on like gang busters.

56  

57 If he actually gets something like 'health care reform' or 'cap & trade' passed, his numbers will tank.  Once people see the Real Harm being done, they'll react

Meanwhile, the 'Magic Negro' meme shields him

58 NONTROVERSY!!!

All you wingnuts getting excited over polls run by racists.

The Daily Kos poll is the only one that matters, and they have Obama still in the good awesome approval number of 85 percent. It would be higher if the rubes out there read L GF on Kindle instead of listening to teabaggers.

Excuse me, another red window popped up on my alert, I must see who is making death threats against me

59 If I didn't hang up right away upon hearing "poll" I'm not sure I wouldn't lie and say I approved of Obumble. I do not want mr NPD desperately trying to win back the nations' approval. Besides I want folks focusing on Pelosi, Reid and how bad the democrat party is right now. Remember the DNC picked him, and look at what the next 2 alternatives were. Another 100% socialist and another mr "Look at me I'm beautiful"

60 There were plenty of folks who admitted to having voted for Carter while he was still in office.  It wasn't until a couple of years of Reagan that you started having trouble finding anyone who would admit to having cast a Carter vote.  I guess it took that long for them to realize that Carter's "malaise" did not have to be a natural or persistent condition.

61

Yup, like someone else said, it's racism.  The spector of being called a "racist" makes people reluctant to publicly criticize him, and the racism of "black empowerment" keeps more Black people from being critical of him.  If Obama were a white dude, his numbers would be a lot lower.

62  Wait until inflation hits ala Jimmy Carter.  That's when you'll see the plummeting.

The bond traders are already getting antsy.

63 "Well, since 36% of the populace has a positive view of socialism"

53% of all Democrats ~ 20% of the populace.

64 #50

ss396, I voted for Carter.   Then I voted for Reagan,  and never voted for another democrat.

Using my experience with the Carter administration,  I believe I can shed some light on this.   Carter's popularity underwent steady erosion all through his term,  with a couple of upward moves for things like the Camp David Accord. 

But remember, the misery index was invented during Carter's term.   People were tormented by unemployment,  high gas prices, high mortgage interest, and shortages of things like beef.  

Added to that were scandals, giving away the Panama Canal, boycotting the Olympics in response to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and the Iranian hostage crisis with the failed rescue attempt, and a host of other things,  each one of which was the last straw for groups of individuals.  For my sister (who was and is a democrat) it was his being surprised about the Soviets invading Afghanistan, which is what he claimed when it happened.   For me,  it was stabbing the Shah in the back and then the prolonged hostage crisis.   At some point during the summer of 1980, I realized I was going to vote for Reagan because I was certain that he couldn't do worse, and I wanted someone who was proud of the country.   I think the pride in the American Olympic Hockey Team and the Miracle on Ice made a lot of us realize we wanted a president who loved the country.  

That's how I left the democrat party, and I think a lot of voters will be doing the same thing over the next couple of years.  Obama is every bit as big a scold as Carter, and his wife is even more repellant than Roslynn.   His policies are even more destructive than Carter's, and he doesn't even have the excuse of naivete.

I hope this helps explain how so many democrats became Republicans in the Carter years.

65 George Orwell @ 24:
Remember there is one thing that will never happen:  Barry will never sink as low in polling as Bush did.

One reason for that is that Barry vs. Bush represents a fundamental clash of worldviews re: what some call "the Religion of Humanity." The article about this in the Weekly Standard an issue or two ago was one of the most insightful, eye-opening things I've read in the past year. Sorry I can't link it cuz my server's acting up, but the article's titled "The Roots of Obama Worship." It's DYNAMITE. Get on over to the Weekly Standard and read it.

66 jukin@54:
I'll go with fear of looking racist for $1000 Alex.
All of his policies are tanking hard but he maintains higher numbers personally. It can be only one thing.

But such people really ARE racist. It's called the "racism of low expectations."

If they really didn't care about a person's skin color, they wouldn't zip their lip and refuse to criticize him when he takes a wrecking ball to their country. Instead, must coddle poow widdle Bawwy.

"Political correctness" is the ultimate racism.

67 Obama's widdle bounce from the SOTU went bye-bye?

President Bush has something to say about that. See his comment at It's About Freedom. Click here... http://tinyurl.com/yftkcza