August 19, 2010

Miss Me Yet? Bush Polling Better Than Obama In Imperiled Democratic Districts
— Ace

Blame Bush for this-- the guy was unpopular when he left, but apparently not unpopular enough for Democrats to keep buttering their bread with him.

A prominent Democratic pollster is circulating a survey that shows George W. Bush is 6 points more popular than President Obama in “Frontline” districts — seats held by Democrats that the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee sees as most vulnerable to Republican takeover. That Bush is more popular than Obama in Democratic-held seats is cause for outright fear.

Ed linked this earlier, with his take.

This Hotline piece is mostly a lot of obvious stuff-- use Obama for discreet (no cameras!) fundraising, make each election individual and personal, etc. -- but damn, there is this quote:

"He is a walking radioactive disaster," one senior Democratic operative said of the president.

Many people keep offering Mr. Wolf's advice (as usual, his version of it as offered on his cameo on Sesame Street): Gentlement, let's not start soaping each other's backs just yet.

And at this point, I guess I have to really endorse that. This is no point for complacency or just assuming outside forces are going to make this happen.

There are no outside forces. Every American citizen is a force of one. When Americans decide to skip out on their civic, patriotic duty and leave elections up to other people, or to the impersonal, irresistible outside forces that don't actually exist, bad things happen.

There is no "wave" here except the wave we make. We are the wave. And if you're not registered to vote -- you're not the wave. If you're not planning on voting -- you're not the wave. If you're not emailing relatives you know lean right and encouraging them to check Obama's power, to stand up and be counted -- you're not the wave.

There will be no wave at all unless we set our minds on making it happen. Obama's popularity in polls will not restrain him -- we have seen that already. We saw him arrogantly demanding ObamaCare despite 60+% opinion (and strong opinion) against it.

He actually -- kind of -- doesn't care about polls. Maybe that is to his credit. Maybe not; I think he takes a perverse delight in thwarting you, defying you. Making your lives worse.

But he doesn't care much about polls. He doesn't care about what you believe, what you think, what you want. He only cares about power-- and power comes from elections. He cares about what he has the power to do, over your objections.

There is only one way to restrain that power. And just taking pleasure in bad polls isn't it.

We're not sending a message here in this election -- messages mean nothing.

We are sending an opposition. We are sending a majority hostile to his plans for continued socialization of the United States. We are sending a Congressional investigators armed with the subpoena power and the power to put witnesses under oath -- and recommend them for perjury charges, should they lie.

We are not sending a message: it remains in the power of the target of the message as to whether or not he will respond, comply, or defy.

We are sending something he will have little choice but to comply with. That's not a message he can ignore at his whim. That's a reality inflicted upon him by voters which he has no choice but to bend to.

We are sending a hard limit to Obama's power. We are sending America back to Congress.

Don't forget that. And I know some of you feel so burned by politics or GOP betrayals and all of that. I know that. I know many readers here, despite their apparent interest in politics, actually dropped out of the system years ago and now are entirely spectators.

Obama won on a crushing wave of such similarly-disaffected voters coming back into the system to make their voices heard for once in decades.

You saw the power of that.

Please show Obama the power of that as well, but going the opposite way.

It is the contention of many of those disaffected with the system, of conventional two-party politics, that if conservatives would just show what a potent force they really are, the GOP would stop trying to encourage moderates to vote their way and instead focus on disaffected hard-right conservatives to vote their way.

Well, on that score, it's put up or shut up time. Because if you're still sitting out this election, after all you have seen, after the ruin visited upon our country, after socialism has galloped ahead so quickly and so heedlessly -- if at this point you still will not undertake your basic American duty to cast a ballot on election day, then it is clear you never will, and it is clear there is no point whatsoever in chasing your vote, for your vote will never be cast.

You will then have decided to simply live as a spectator in your own political life, leaving the decisions most important to you to other people and to chance, and in that case, the GOP is quite right, on a rational, pragmatic, utilitarian level, to simply ignore you forever and chase the independents and moderates who do vote.

The choice is yours, and the choice could determine the path of American progress or ruin for the next forty years.

Posted by: Ace at 12:39 PM | Comments (219)
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1 But Intrade has Obama up by 20%!!!!!



First?

Posted by: In before the troll at August 19, 2010 12:40 PM (P9+0W)

2 "use Obama for discrete (no cameras!"

The word you're looking for is "discreet."

Believe me, a guy with my name knows something about being discreet.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 19, 2010 12:41 PM (9cbd0)

3

"He is a walking radioactive disaster," one senior Democratic operative said of the president.

Way too kind. My choice of words would have been, "He's a walking, destructive piece of shit."

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at August 19, 2010 12:42 PM (YVZlY)

4 That Strange New Respect for Pres. Bush sure happened a lot faster than I thought it would.

Posted by: alexthechick at August 19, 2010 12:42 PM (eRjGt)

5
Most of Bush's popularity problems were driven by the hostile media.
Americans starting to wake up.
No news at 11.

Posted by: Juji Fruit at August 19, 2010 12:43 PM (0fzsA)

6 "Radioacative" is a great description, because it shows how much damage he leaves in his wake.

Posted by: Kensington at August 19, 2010 12:43 PM (mEyVv)

7 I'm a registered Democrat who voted for McCain and a Republican Governor I was so disgusted by my party. I will crawl over glass to vote for Republicans in November.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2010 12:43 PM (igf5p)

8 But I thought that the Age of Aquarius dawned on January 20, 2009.  How can we even consider going back to whatever age preceded Aquarius?

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 19, 2010 12:44 PM (xxgag)

9 "Bush" from now on will revert to the proper spelling, "Hitler".

Posted by: Tom from the AP at August 19, 2010 12:44 PM (Nw/hR)

10 We are sending a Congressional investigators armed with the subpoena power and the power to put witnesses under oath -- and recommend them for perjury charges, should they lie.



Investigators....plural??

So far, I've only seen one GOP member of Congress willing to go to the mattresses with investigations, and ironically, he's from CA.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2010 12:45 PM (P9+0W)

11 "Radioacative" is a great description, because it shows how much damage he leaves in his wake. Posted by: Kensington at August 19, 2010 04:43 PM (mEyVv) And just wait until Iran gets it's bomb

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2010 12:45 PM (0GFWk)

12 "Radioacative" is a great description, because it shows how much damage he leaves in his wake.

Posted by: Kensington at August 19, 2010 04:43 PM (mEyVv)

My guess is that the half life of this radioactivity will be measured in decades.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 19, 2010 12:46 PM (xxgag)

13 There is no "wave" here except the wave we make. We are the wave. And if you're not registered to vote -- you're not the wave. If you're not planning on voting -- you're not the wave. If you're not emailing relatives you know lean right and encouraging them to send a message, to stand up and be counted -- you're not the wave. Important points. Suggest there should be a weekly (by 2nd half of October daily) post providing helpful links for people* who live in non-competitive congressional districts. These links might go to places where you can make calls to voters or volunteer to help in places that are in the balance.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at August 19, 2010 12:47 PM (5Plp1)

14 >>>So far, I've only seen one GOP member of Congress willing to go to the mattresses with investigations, and ironically, he's from CA. Give me a fucking break. Some of you will go to the ends of the earth to justify your passive relationship with electoral politics.

Posted by: just a humble ant at August 19, 2010 12:47 PM (QbA6l)

15 Will Farrell can suck the root.

Posted by: eman at August 19, 2010 12:47 PM (Nw/hR)

16 "He is a walking radioactive disaster," one senior Democratic operative said of the president. Well, at least he didn't call me a cloud of coal smoke. He couldn't really, had he wanted to. Racism, you know.

Posted by: B. Hussein Obama at August 19, 2010 12:48 PM (AZGON)

17 The choice is yours, Anyone here has already made a choice, what you need to do is bring ten people with you. We all know 10 people who are too busy to vote - get them to the polls. Those that are laying on the couch, and not voting, let them stay there.

Posted by: Jean at August 19, 2010 12:48 PM (LqcF2)

18
I think Nancy Pelosi(D-Stalinist) is ever more radioactive.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 19, 2010 12:48 PM (0fzsA)

19 After Labor Day is when you should make plans. Prepare e-mails to send to your friends, volunteer at the local GOP campaign headquarters, offer to drive people to the polls. Or, if you have no time for any of this, make a promise to yourself, and resolve to keep it: I WILL VOTE ON NOVEMBER 2.

Posted by: T. Coddington Van Voohees VII at August 19, 2010 12:48 PM (RD7QR)

20

I voted for the turd sandwich.

Posted by: Vibrio cholerae at August 19, 2010 12:48 PM (9Sbz+)

21 Gah! Sockoff!

Posted by: joncelli at August 19, 2010 12:49 PM (RD7QR)

22 Hey, I've got lots of excuses why I don't do more work and better work, too, Ill Tempered Cur. So you keep on keepin' on making excuses as to why Obama is the most dangerous man in American history, a clear and present danger to the country, but why the opposition to him is not sufficiently intense to animate you take twenty minutes to re-register to vote.

Posted by: ace at August 19, 2010 12:49 PM (QbA6l)

23 You can register online or pick up forms at the Post Office, City Hall, etc. Get off your cheezey fat asses.

Posted by: eman at August 19, 2010 12:49 PM (Nw/hR)

24 I'm glad that some light is starting to shine on this.

The stoner children got to drive the car for a while, but it is time to take the keys away and give Obama's voters a time out.

Even with his insane immigration policy and dumbass "reaching across the aisle" mistakes, G.W. is ten times the man Obama will ever be. Hell, Laura Bush could get Barry in a headlock and kick the shit out of him without breaking a nail.


Posted by: sifty hates the MFM. hates. hate. hate. at August 19, 2010 12:50 PM (0niR1)

25 you go, eman.

Posted by: ace at August 19, 2010 12:50 PM (QbA6l)

26

Hey, you know what my contribution to this tsunami is going to be? Voting for Chuck Smith against Bobby Scott, D-VA-03, in a district that's something like D+25. Scott's run unopposed in most cycles and averages around 70% of the vote.

Two years of pure purple outrage, and... that's it. Touching one futile button on the screen.

Well, at least the Bob McDonnell thing was fun.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at August 19, 2010 12:50 PM (SCcgT)

27 >>So far, I've only seen one GOP member of Congress willing to go to the mattresses with investigations, and ironically, he's from CA. To be fair, Issa is the ranking member of the House Oversight Committee. If the Republicans take over he will be the guy issuing the subpoenas.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 19, 2010 12:51 PM (VW9/y)

28 "A prominent Democratic pollster is circulating a survey that shows George W. Bush is 6 points more popular than President Obama..." I hope President Bush is getting a good laugh out of this. I wish he and Laura would make some more impromptu appearances.

Posted by: Moi at August 19, 2010 12:51 PM (Ez4Ql)

29

"There is no "wave" here except the wave we make. We are the wave."

We are the wave we've been waiting for.

Posted by: Cobalt Shiva at August 19, 2010 12:51 PM (v3pYe)

30 I've never been more excited to vote than I am for this upcoming election.  No absentee voting for me.  I'm going to the polls and casting my ballot.  Can not wait.

Posted by: LR at August 19, 2010 12:51 PM (wM0sa)

31 "...more popular than Obama in Democratic-held seats is cause for outright fear." Now they can finally get a real taste of that "politics of fear" they've been squawking about for years. Be afraid Dems, be very afraid.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 19, 2010 12:52 PM (IKf7L)

32 But Intrade has Obama up by 20%!!!!!



First?

Posted by: In before the troll

 

No, I've think that we've seen you before.

Posted by: Walter Duranty at August 19, 2010 12:52 PM (R2fpr)

33 BCP, >>>Hey, you know what my contribution to this tsunami is going to be? Voting for Chuck Smith against Bobby Scott, D-VA-03, in a district that's something like D+25. Not to be all "soaping each other's backs," but I think election day will feature a few shocks in districts like this. A few. Like one, two. In a wave, someone somewhere is going to get stunned.

Posted by: ace at August 19, 2010 12:53 PM (QbA6l)

34 Okay, let's abandon the Blue Wave and make it a Red Wave, mkay?

Posted by: 1980's Kingdome at August 19, 2010 12:53 PM (pUfK9)

35 You can't have a government of the people, by the people, and for the people without the participation of the people.

Posted by: davidt at August 19, 2010 12:53 PM (HtIec)

Posted by: rdbrewer at August 19, 2010 12:53 PM (t0jpM)

37 I have issued a family and friends proclamation:

Nobody gets BBQ at my house anymore unless they vote. And forget raiding my beer cooler. They have no excuses.

I have spoken.

Posted by: sifty hates the MFM. hates. hate. hate. at August 19, 2010 12:54 PM (0niR1)

38 The goggles -  they do nothing!

Posted by: Radioactive Man at August 19, 2010 12:54 PM (/ak0x)

39 You are preaching to the converted, Ace. I think most if not all of us can be called broken glass conservatives.
Even in NY I don't miss an election, though I know it's usually an exercise in futility.
But maybe it won't be this year.

Posted by: real joe at August 19, 2010 12:54 PM (IpIBJ)

40 I'll tell you who is going to get stunned, the first one of you homos I catch in my shower trying to soap my back.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 19, 2010 12:54 PM (VW9/y)

41

There are no outside forces. Every American citizen is a force of one. When Americans decide to skip out on their civic, patriotic duty and leave elections up to other people, or to the impersonal, irresistible outside forces that don't actually exist, bad things happen.

Exactly, & the people who are the most passive are often the worst complainers. That elections matter is just another lesson that we should learn from not only 2006 but also the Obama debacle.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby, lover of double posts at August 19, 2010 12:54 PM (yfJ6g)

42 must be a bookkeeping mistake or something: no way Bush can be more popular that the Grand High Exalted Vacationer-in-chief.

Posted by: Ira at August 19, 2010 12:54 PM (bJm7W)

43 "Every American citizen is a force of one."

I can but laugh. But then you're not Pat Cadell, Force of Plenty.

Posted by: Pat Cadell at August 19, 2010 12:55 PM (swuwV)

44

There is only one way to restrain that power. And just taking pleasure in bad polls isn't it.

...But it sooo magically deliscious!

 

 

Posted by: dananjcon at August 19, 2010 12:55 PM (pr+up)

45 While I refuse to soap any backs but my lovely wife's, I do plan to watch the election night coverage nekid as a jaybird.

Posted by: sifty hates the MFM. hates. hate. hate. at August 19, 2010 12:55 PM (0niR1)

46 Hopefully the fallout half-life of his policies will be measured in years not decades.

Posted by: AE at August 19, 2010 12:55 PM (1bZ96)

Posted by: rdbrewer at August 19, 2010 12:56 PM (t0jpM)

48 Repeal of Obamacare will taste so good we'll want to eat it on crackers for a thousand years.

Posted by: sifty hates the MFM. hates. hate. hate. at August 19, 2010 12:56 PM (0niR1)

49 In a wave, someone somewhere is going to get stunned.

I'm thinking more Senate seats than House seats on that, Ace.

My dark-horse special right now would be Linda McMahon in Connecticut because she's got money, she's got media-savvy on-board because she and her husband have run WWE for years, and Blumenthal's got issues which will pop up every once in a while, especially if the "Stolen Valor" lawsuit in the 9th Circus keeps popping up.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 19, 2010 12:56 PM (wDKwf)

50 Actually "radioactivity" is a bad term to use for the damage he causes. People encounter radioactivity and radiation every day with no problems.

Obama's daily encounters are causing untold amounts of damage. 

Posted by: Vic at August 19, 2010 12:57 PM (/jbAw)

51 52 Repeal of Obamacare will taste so good we'll want to eat it on crackers for a thousand years.
Posted by: sifty hates the MFM

I personally will be dipping...

Posted by: real joe at August 19, 2010 12:57 PM (IpIBJ)

52 Sifty, do we have to bring a photo copy of our ballot?

Posted by: Associated Press at August 19, 2010 12:58 PM (pUfK9)

53 I'm moving shortly and the only thing that I don't like about it is that I won't be part of voting Toomey into office.  Oh and I've already checked into what I have to do to get registered to vote at the new place.  I like the broken glass conservative description and shall steal it.

Posted by: alexthechick at August 19, 2010 12:58 PM (eRjGt)

54 My, how the mighty have fallen. Godalmighty one day, shit on stick the next. How could this happen to the messiah? The Light worker? Hopeyfukkinchangey? Obama is the light? School children swearing their lives to him in song? Euroweenies pledging their poop chutes to his visage of greatness. Disgusting old hags being buried in his tee shirts. Chrissy Matthews getting those tingles up his leg?

Posted by: maddogg at August 19, 2010 12:59 PM (OlN4e)

55
Believe me, a guy with my name knows something about being discreet.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 19, 2010 04:41 PM (9cbd0)

Heh.

as for getting the word out, I've become a harridan with my children of voting age. i said during last election only 1 was of age, you better help us fight , she didn't vote! this year after having 2 children in two years and her husband losing his job. she's like YES i will, so will He and everyone i know if i have to drag them by their hair.

Posted by: willow at August 19, 2010 12:59 PM (/x2TR)

56 >>>My dark-horse special right now would be Linda McMahon in Connecticut because she's got money (whisper: I don't even consider that dark horse. I consider that "difficult.")

Posted by: ace at August 19, 2010 12:59 PM (QbA6l)

57

Oh...I like the wave, and I will keep it!

 

 

Posted by: dananjcon at August 19, 2010 12:59 PM (pr+up)

58 Will Farrell can suck the root.

Well, he already sucks, so I guess giving him a root isn't a bad thing.

Posted by: Sponge at August 19, 2010 12:59 PM (UK9cE)

59 >>>But I kindly suggest we have a ton more problems than just talked about. >>>>I wish success in solving them. I'm think I'm going to go spend my time on more productive pursuits. Good, I wish you would. We have too many Theoretical Americans. "Americans" who "theoretically" love their country and wish to improve its lot.

Posted by: ace at August 19, 2010 01:00 PM (QbA6l)

60 I'm gonna vote, ace, and I'll do as much as I can to support those who want to truly help with the push to make this a Constitutional republic again.

Kinda bugs me when Ed "Poppin' Fresh" Morrissey gets drawn into the discussion, though. I don't dig squishes who dilute every strong stand with "in fairness..." or seem to worried about the minute ups and downs of polls.

Nor, for that matter, do I want to align myself with people who so fear words that their filters block out words like "revolution."

(That's nothing to do with racist shit and expressed advocacy of violence, both of which I know set you off, ace. Much different deal.).

My fear is that somehow our good leaders and potential good leaders will get the idea that they should pay attention to the namby-pamby weasel-worded nonsense and pointless/endless discussions of political "process"  and "nuance" that dominate Tepid Air.

Keep it real, ace. Let the Pillsbury Doughboy and Allahpander link to you. Lead, don't follow.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 19, 2010 01:00 PM (Ulu3i)

61 The best part of this whole thing is how hopeless it makes the MFM feel.  Oh, it tastes so sweet.  This is happening despite all their efforts.

Hahahahahahahahaha.

Posted by: Editor at August 19, 2010 01:00 PM (pUfK9)

62 I just had to take a moment to look it up: it's "The Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler" (from "the Honeymooners.")

Posted by: Ira at August 19, 2010 01:01 PM (bJm7W)

63

Posted by: ace at August 19, 2010 04:49 PM (QbA6l)



I'm not saying that I'm not motivated to donate, vote, put in time etc. I'm just frustrated with the seeming lack of resolve among the Congressional GOP and the RNC to really take it to the Dems if/when we get control of Congress again. We've all complained about this to varying degrees, some of us more coherently than others (looking in mirror).

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2010 01:01 PM (P9+0W)

64 My wife and I vote every election,  My youngest daughter just turned voting age and I've tried to empress on her the importance of her vote. In fact I look forward to being there when she casts her first vote next Tuesday.

Posted by: Bosk at August 19, 2010 01:01 PM (pUO5u)

65 (whisper: I don't even consider that dark horse. I consider that "difficult.")

Out of curiosity, what do you consider the difference?

Posted by: alexthechick at August 19, 2010 01:01 PM (eRjGt)

66 Obama is turning into dogshit that the Democrats have stepped in. No matter how much they scrape the bottom of their shoe the stink of Obama will follow them around.

Posted by: davidt at August 19, 2010 01:01 PM (HtIec)

67 Neither "discrete" nor "discreet" are in my dictionary, Bitches. This has me stimulated. Bustin' even. This news is my sammich maker, and I'm secretin' all over it.

Posted by: Wicket at August 19, 2010 01:01 PM (swuwV)

68

Aug. 19 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama said the jump in unemployment claims shows the urgent need for congressional action on legislation to cut taxes and ease credit for small businesses.

Obama once again called on Republicans to stop blocking the measure and said lawmakers should take up the bill when they reconvene in September.

“Small businesses and community banks that loan to small businesses have been lagging behind,” Obama said at the White House before he and his family leave for a holiday on Martha’s Vineyard in Massachusetts. “If we want this economy to create more jobs more quickly, we need to help them.”

 

Either he's this out of touch with reality or someone needs to change the script in the Royal Teleprompter. What are Republicans blocking to help small business? Barry's increased taxes and regulations on them

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2010 01:02 PM (1Jaio)

69 maddog, He was seductive at first, With  the media on his side,  He did sound as if he would be the hope for different politics. messiah and the One was creepy to me, but i saw young 20s lured, a really sad election, they are taught a lesson but at every americans expense.

Posted by: willow at August 19, 2010 01:02 PM (/x2TR)

70 I wish he and Laura would make some more impromptu appearances.


He's been attending a lot of Rangers games lately, sitting next to the new owner, Nolan Ryan.

Posted by: Sponge at August 19, 2010 01:03 PM (UK9cE)

71 Kinda bugs me when Ed "Poppin' Fresh" Morrissey gets drawn into the discussion, though. I don't dig squishes who dilute every strong stand with "in fairness..." or seem to worried about the minute ups and downs of polls.

+1000% His attitude is partially what got us in this mess..."on the other hand"...DOPE

Posted by: truth at August 19, 2010 01:04 PM (XSD4n)

72 Be the Wave, Danny. Be the Wave.

Posted by: Ty Webb at August 19, 2010 01:04 PM (qwK3S)

73

I think the entire "it's Bushitler's fault" has bit them in the ass. It has become a punch line now for almost everyone but the left, who, continues to use for all occasions.

In America we always pull for the underdog. No, I'm not saying that a former president is an underdog, but when you constantly blame one person for all ills and your own mistakes, people ascribe underdog type projections on that person.

In short, fuck a bunch of Obama.

Posted by: Sgt. Fury at August 19, 2010 01:05 PM (4dEOx)

74

I was 'splainin' to BackwardsGirl that early voting means we can vote just about any time we wish up until Tuesday.

You should have seen her eyes light up. She was a Dim when we started dating, and now lectures her two grown sons on the evils of Dims and The Vapid One® at every opportunity.

And yes, I am proud to have converted her.

Of course, part of it was osmosis.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 19, 2010 01:05 PM (kFODZ)

75 >>>Out of curiosity, what do you consider the difference? Dark horse to me is hail mary, a stunner. I don't think McMahon is that. I think she's merely an underdog. A dark horse is like... whoever Schumer's opponent turns out to be. And I do actually think there's a chance of that, assuming a decent opponent who can catch a little Scott Brown Magic. There are a few Democrats in safe gerrymandered districts who don't even think they have an election coming up who are going to find out, yikes, they were in an election. Like I said, one, maybe two. All that needs to happen is: 1) The minority conservative vote votes like their votes matter for once (and they actually do). 2) the majority liberal vote assumes this is a blow-off election and doesn't vote very much. Suddenly you have a 1% squeaker loss on your hands.

Posted by: ace at August 19, 2010 01:05 PM (QbA6l)

76 Why do I get the feeling that the AP is eventually going to just start reporting the average polling numbers from past Presidents instead of Obama's actual numbers? Gotta correct for that historical and all-pervasive "racist" factor that keeps showing up in their computer models.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 19, 2010 01:05 PM (IKf7L)

77

He actually -- kind of -- doesn't care about polls. Maybe that is to his credit. Maybe not; I think he takes a perverse delight in thwarting you, defying you. Making your lives worse.

That's the whole "pride before the fall" thing I've been bringing up. Obama absolutely takes perverse delight in giving us the finger. He probably jerks off to the thought of it.

He's like a drug addict or an alcoholic who, consequences be damned, will get his buzz on. He's too wrapped up in himself to see the near future.

Posted by: ErikW at August 19, 2010 01:05 PM (Epd0E)

78

 "Gentlement, let's not start soaping each other's backs just yet."

Kinda ghey.  Maybe you meant,  "Gentlemorons, let's not crack the pudding cups just yet?"

Well, it ain't over till Granny Botox isn't in the #3 spot for POTUS should anything happen to Captain Bullshit and the Joey the Plugged Wonder.

Posted by: Speller at August 19, 2010 01:05 PM (qaOKJ)

79 Anyone know where we can hang out and wait for this thing to show up.... dude?

Posted by: Surfers in Hawaii waiting to ride tsunami from Chile at August 19, 2010 01:06 PM (pUfK9)

80 Ace: "We are sending an opposition. We are sending a majority hostile to his plans for continued socialization of the United States. We are sending a Congressional investigators armed with the subpoena power and the power to put witnesses under oath -- and recommend them for perjury charges, should they lie."

This.

And it can be a Constitutional Republic again. If we can empower that wave.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 19, 2010 01:07 PM (swuwV)

81

Voting is a hassle. Besides, what difference is one vote going to make?

(That's what I tell all the Democrat progressive Obama-loving commies around me. I do not want them to vote, so I discourage them. If they feel ennui, I'll help to make sure they keep it for three more months. I'm in a blue county in a blue state, and that's how I'm fighting this fight.)

Why bother?

Posted by: FireHorse at August 19, 2010 01:07 PM (cQyWA)

82 I'm definitely going to vote in this year's election, especially considering we [Texas] have a gubernatorial election this year. Just because I don't like Rick Perry on all the issues doesn't mean I'm going to let Bill White & his ilk inch towards the governor's mansion. This state is too important to give the Dems the impression that they can have it.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at August 19, 2010 01:08 PM (yfJ6g)

83 AP style: Obama is now to be referred to as "Failed President Obama"

Posted by: ingenus at August 19, 2010 01:08 PM (+sBB4)

84 Damn Ace, you're on fire lately.

Posted by: Robert at August 19, 2010 01:08 PM (cd6Ip)

85 (That's what I tell all the Democrat progressive Obama-loving commies around me. I do not want them to vote, so I discourage them. If they feel ennui, I'll help to make sure they keep it for three more months. I'm in a blue county in a blue state, and that's how I'm fighting this fight.)

Hmmm, what would the term be for being an anti-Moby.  A Mondale?

Posted by: alexthechick at August 19, 2010 01:11 PM (eRjGt)

86 Damn Ace, you're on fire lately.

Posted by: Robert at August 19, 2010 05:08 PM (cd6Ip)


En Fuego!

Posted by: The guy who always wanted to say En Fuego! at August 19, 2010 01:11 PM (Q1lie)

87 even a badly gerrymandered district is "only" like 70-30. Now, if you had, somehow, 90% conservative voting, and as usual about 35-40% of the liberals showed up for a blow-off election... that is a loss in a safe democratic seat. It can happen. It actually can happen, I swear to you It has happened before. In a wave, SOMEONE is in for a shock.

Posted by: ace at August 19, 2010 01:11 PM (QbA6l)

88 If you don't register to vote, someone will be assigned to register (and vote) for you.

Posted by: ACORN Obamagrad at August 19, 2010 01:11 PM (FcR7P)

89 The boisterous sea of liberty is not without a wave.

May this wave begin to wash away the rotting corpse of liberalism from our political discourse.

Posted by: Ghost of Thomas Jefferson at August 19, 2010 01:12 PM (9hSKh)

90 Breaker Breaker SALT IN THE WOUND http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-dPSh--CHU

Posted by: DaMav at August 19, 2010 01:12 PM (QNU76)

91 >>>My fear is that somehow our good leaders and potential good leaders will get the idea that they should pay attention to the namby-pamby weasel-worded nonsense and pointless/endless discussions of political "process" and "nuance" that dominate Tepid Air. You really spend an awful lot of time fretting about what's written on a blog you don't like.

Posted by: ace at August 19, 2010 01:13 PM (QbA6l)

92 I am fairly sure that between now and election day, every Fischer ad is going to feature a picture of Portman and Bush together.

 Posted by: Mallamutt at August 19, 2010 05:07 PM (OWjjx)

I hope they do. Fisher is in deep trouble here because of an ineptly run campaign. If he starts pulling the lame ass "Blame Bush" bullshit, he's done.

Posted by: ErikW at August 19, 2010 01:13 PM (Epd0E)

93 Bush was so defined by Iraq.  It's a war we've won.

And people should notice just how muted the thanks from DC is over the Iraq victory.  where are the parades?  Millions of people are living free of dictatorship, and thousands gave their lives for it, and I want some parades!

I think it's going to be damn hard to criticize Bush harshly, when 99% of that criticism was about this Iraq war.  The rest is just pretending Obama doesn't have any blame for economic problems.

Posted by: Da Death Panels! at August 19, 2010 01:13 PM (dUOK+)

94

 

If the O is Radioactive Man, who is Fallout Boy?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 19, 2010 01:13 PM (QMtmy)

95

It'll feel so good to kick the Dems in their hearts' nuts.

I can see November from my unemployment office.

Posted by: gator at August 19, 2010 01:14 PM (aOKEC)

96

I wish success in solving them. I'm think I'm going to go spend my time on more productive pursuits.

What, praytell, could be more important that the future of our country and your children/grandchildren?

In case you just dropped in, that's the reason we're all here, talking politics and offering solutions to the problems of the day. We're engaged and aware of things when we aren't swapping hobo marinade recipes and collecting Valu-Rite caps.

Why aren't you?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 19, 2010 01:14 PM (kFODZ)

97 If the O is Radioactive Man, who is Fallout Boy?

Biden, obviously.

Posted by: nickless at August 19, 2010 01:14 PM (MMC8r)

98 Well I'm real uptight
and unattractive
Turnout will be light
Cause I'm radioactive
Radioactive

Reps win in '10
I'll be inactive
I'll sleep in the den
Cause I'm radioactive
Radioactive

I want to tax you more
I want to travel more (you pay)
I want to ruin more
And I want you to know

Got to concentrate
'Prompters are active
My speech is great!
But I'm radioactive
Radioactive
Radioactive
Radioactive

Posted by: Barack Obama, new lead singer of The Firm at August 19, 2010 01:15 PM (xmjMj)

99

Biden, obviously.

Are hair plugs affected by radiation?

Posted by: gator at August 19, 2010 01:16 PM (aOKEC)

100 Don't forget the Nov 1 revelations in the press that each and every Republican candidate may or may not have kidnapped a girl in college and held her in a pit while saying "now it rubs the lotion on its skin."

Posted by: Gringo at August 19, 2010 01:16 PM (57qHp)

101

My mom voted for Obama. (tho' in her defense, she lived in Arizona long enough to form an opinion of McCain)

Today I mentioned to her that the Republicans were looking like they are going to do well in Nov. and she said "well, I hope they are actually conservative!"

So I take that as a good sign.

Posted by: Mama AJ at August 19, 2010 01:18 PM (XdlcF)

102 And don't forget the Nov. 3 conclusions about stolen elections because the results were so "unexpected."

Posted by: FireHorse at August 19, 2010 01:18 PM (cQyWA)

103 Ace, I'm kind of new here.  Could you warn us when your links are heading over to Hot Air.  I got a nasty virus from them, and I noticed others here did too.  I avoid them like jock rash now.  Please warn us.

Posted by: MoSov at August 19, 2010 01:18 PM (/nZ2Y)

104 Ace is right - we can't just assume that it's going to be some huge wave election if we don't actually make it happen ourselves.  All these polls that show the D's down and the R's up - they are all predicated on a basic assumption that the R's actually show up and vote.

Posted by: chemjeff at August 19, 2010 01:18 PM (Pm5H8)

105 >>>And I'll give you one that would fit the Ace description........Barney Frank. Yeah... Am I not remembering right when I say that Scott Brown beat Coakely in Barney Frank's district? I believe that is true.

Posted by: ace at August 19, 2010 01:19 PM (QbA6l)

106 Not only will I vote (as usual) I will make sure my whole family votes. I will harass my employees to vote, my co workers. Your post is 100% correct Ace. This is an opportunity to kick their asses into obscurity and erase their blight on the country. We can worry about the Republicans fucking it up after we ditch the communists. If patriotic conservative groups stay active, we can hold an axe over their heads ans make them do the right thing. Fearful politicians are thoughtful politicians.

Posted by: maddogg at August 19, 2010 01:19 PM (OlN4e)

107 I'm in Tx as well and it really pisses me off that I only have Rick Perry to vote for.  He's a politician and showed his true colors with that whole executive order forcing the HPV vaccine on young girls as he was in bed with the only Pharm that made the vaccine.

He'll win, and get my vote similar to McCain getting my vote, with my nose plugged.

Posted by: Sponge at August 19, 2010 01:19 PM (UK9cE)

108

My prediction: Since desperation is the current theme of the Democrat Party, whatever retarded October Surprise they come up with will be a huge backfire and ensure a GOP sweep.

I know, don't suck dicks yet and all that but there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of cohesion on the left.

Posted by: ErikW at August 19, 2010 01:20 PM (Epd0E)

109 Ace, the only thing I would disagree on is your assertion that there is a "duty" to vote.  I don't think there is a "duty" to vote - I think the decision not to vote is a legitimate statement to make - but this election is really not the time to be making that statement.  so I wouldn't use the word "duty" , just "really fucking good idea".

Posted by: chemjeff at August 19, 2010 01:21 PM (Pm5H8)

110

My mind sort of added accompaniment


There are no outside forces. Every American citizen is a force of one. *picture of bald eagle soaring in background* When Americans decide to skip out on their civic, patriotic duty and leave elections up to other people, or to the impersonal, irresistible outside forces that don't actually exist, bad things happen.

There is no "wave" here except the wave we make. We are the wave. *US Flag starts waving in background* And if you're not registered to vote -- you're not the wave. If you're not planning on voting -- you're not the wave. If you're not emailing relatives you know lean right and encouraging them to check Obama's power, to stand up and be counted -- you're not the wave.....


There is only one way to restrain that power. And just taking pleasure in bad polls isn't it.

We're not sending a message here in this election -- messages mean nothing.

*Fife starts playing*


We are sending an opposition. We are sending a majority hostile to his plans for continued socialization of the United States. We are sending a Congressional investigators armed with the subpoena power and the power to put witnesses under oath -- and recommend them for perjury charges, should they lie.

*Mine eyes have seen the glory....*

We are not sending a message: it remains in the power of the target of the message as to whether or not he will respond, comply, or defy.

*He is trampling out the vintage...*

We are sending something he will have little choice but to comply with. That's not a message he can ignore at his whim. That's a reality inflicted upon him by voters which he has no choice but to bend to.


We are sending a hard limit to Obama's power. We are sending America back to Congress.

Don't forget that. ...

Obama won on a crushing wave of such similarly-disaffected voters coming back into the system to make their voices heard for once in decades.

You saw the power of that.


*I have seen him in the watchfires....*

Please show Obama the power of that as well, but going the opposite way.

...


Well, on that score, it's put up or shut up time. Because if you're still sitting out this election, after all you have seen, after the ruin visited upon our country, after socialism has galloped ahead so quickly and so heedlessly -- if at this point you still will not undertake your basic American duty to cast a ballot on election day, then it is clear you never will...


The choice is yours, and the choice could determine the path of American progress or ruin for the next forty years.

*HIS TRUTH IS MARCHING ONNNN!*

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at August 19, 2010 01:22 PM (0q2P7)

111 "gentlemen, let's not start soaping our backs yet." nobody touches me. you homo's come near me, you're on the list. [and don't call me francis] {and don't touch my brackets or you're on the list}

Posted by: gomm at August 19, 2010 01:22 PM (EA+Co)

112

... but there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of cohesion on the left.

I think you're geting a bit confused. The great schism is on the right. I keep hearing about an all-consuming civil war among conservatives. (Monty and I disagreed on something trivial about two months ago; maybe that's what everyone means.)

Posted by: FireHorse at August 19, 2010 01:23 PM (cQyWA)

113

116 Ace, I'm kind of new here.  Could you warn us when your links are heading over to Hot Air.  I got a nasty virus from them, and I noticed others here did too.  I avoid them like jock rash now.  Please warn us.

That would be so appreciated, Ace. I still haven't gotten my computer back after picking up a virus clicking on an article at HA and it's costing me $130 that I can't spare to get it fixed. 

Posted by: Miss Fluffy McNutter at August 19, 2010 01:24 PM (xMSXs)

114 I'll be voting on election day.  Like a Viking.

Posted by: nickless at August 19, 2010 01:24 PM (MMC8r)

115 How can I stop the 3-4 flyers and 2-3 campaign calls I get a day from Rick Scott and Bill McCollum?

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson Airplane at August 19, 2010 01:24 PM (kcqZS)

116 My youngest daughter just turned voting age and I've tried to empress on her the importance of her vote.

Yes I too have voted in every election since I got out of the Navy. What's more, I educated my daughter as to the need to do that also.

I was proud of her voting until this past election when she voted for the Huck in the Republican primary by direction from her preacher. Both her and my oldest grandson who is now voting as well.

She did vote for Palin though in the actual election.

Posted by: Vic at August 19, 2010 01:24 PM (/jbAw)

117 Conservatives who don't vote should be forced to do the meat sandwich twixt Rham Emmanuel and Barney Frank, nekkid of course.

Posted by: maddogg at August 19, 2010 01:24 PM (OlN4e)

118

Fearful politicians are thoughtful politicians.

That phrase should be tattooed on the forehead of every public servant immediately after they say the oath of office.

Backwards (naturally) so they can see it in the mirror every morning.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 19, 2010 01:25 PM (kFODZ)

119

 

This is truly a sad day.

I have run out of pith.

Posted by: my little GOP at August 19, 2010 01:25 PM (uFokq)

120

When we had primaries here I had about 6 friends in another district that I knew had never voted in primary races.   Always acted as if they didn't have time.    I researched all their primary candidates, printed sample ballots for their district, and filled them out.   Then I asked them all to have a girl's night out on that night.    (the pols closed at 7:30 in their district).    I told them all I would pick them up around 6:00.  

Once I had them all in the car, I drove straight to their polling place.    You should have seen their faces when I pulled in.   I told them all I would leave them there, if they didn't go in and vote.    Well, they did, and when each one of them came out I asked how they felt.   To a person, they said they felt good about it, and was glad I had done what I did, and they were surprised it didn't take as long as they thought.

Don't have to worry about them voting again, but I have a few more that I plan to do the same thing with in November.

 

 

Posted by: Steph at August 19, 2010 01:25 PM (580hG)

121 >>>ne other thing. If you start reading how inevitable the tsunami is gonna be, and you think maybe you'll stay home on Election Day because one vote won't matter, I've got two words for you. Pile on. >>>This election has to be a 'pile on' of epic proportions. The guy at the bottom of the pile has to get up - after the ref separates the bodies - stagger over to the sidelines, drop his helmet to the ground, and limp out of the stadium, body and spirit crushed for the next twenty years. This is right, spot on. There is injury, and then there is the insult upon it. There is wound, and then there is the salt rubbed into it. There is catastrophe, and then there is the rioting afterwards that almost eclipses the original disaster. That's what we're aiming for. We need to SHOCK them. Dave in Texas (sorry to tip this) wants to... um, he wants to write on this subject and I keep avoiding it because I don't want to step on his toes. Dave -- you have to do that soon or I'm gonna jump ya! But, okay, let me avoid Dave in texas' planned post. For forty years liberals operated under a rule: "Don't scare the bear." The bear was the American electorate, skeptical of liberalism and hostile to socialism. So every liberal had to be afraid of the bear, approach it gingerly, be well-behaved, make small movements only. For ten years, since 2000, liberal actiivsts have been agitating for full-throated, unapologetic liberalism. In 2008, they got their wish -- they elected the most socialist president in history and their Congress then became the most socialist congress ever. Now: They THINK there is no more rule "don't scare the bear." They have done everything possible to wake and rouse and agitate the bear. The bear has two responses now: 1. It goes back to sleep. 2. It tears their fucking faces off and leaves them maimed for life. If it does 1, they will CONTINUE with their shrill socialist takeover. If the bear does 2, they will NEVER DREAM OF GOING THIS FAR AGAIN. Either way, liberals WILL be taught a lesson this year. But they can learn one of two lessons: 1, America doesn't mind a little socialism and the electoral condquences for pushing it are minor and livable, or 2, WHAT HAVE WE DONE. We need the lesson to be 2. If it's 1, we lose something forever.

Posted by: ace at August 19, 2010 01:25 PM (QbA6l)

122 And vote in person. Absentee ballots are ripe for fraud. If they're gonna steal your vote, make 'em do it to your face.

Posted by: LGoPs at August 19, 2010 01:25 PM (+Uv5V)

123 I think there is a competitive House race in every state, right?  Cook's Political Report says there's something like 45 states that have House districts that are either "lean D" or "toss-up".  Maybe the exceptions are WY, MT, AK, VT and ME.  So there is something for everyone to do pretty much no matter what state you are in.

Posted by: chemjeff at August 19, 2010 01:25 PM (Pm5H8)

124 think of it this way: who would you vote for if they ran against the empty suit? my list pretty much includes anyone living or dead, including jimmy carter, dead ted kennedy, and charles manson. hell, if it came down to any of those 3 running against the commie bastard, i'd volunteer to help with the campaigns...

Posted by: cali grump at August 19, 2010 01:26 PM (1tJr/)

125 To add to my#128, I realize that most of the time it is obvious that the link is to HA, but just in those instances where it might not be a heads up would be helpful.

Posted by: Miss Fluffy McNutter at August 19, 2010 01:26 PM (xMSXs)

126 no complacency, check. we need optics too though, more comparisons Bush v. Obama. you know, deficits and unemployment.

Posted by: joeindc44 at August 19, 2010 01:26 PM (QxSug)

127 Okay, I will note either "Hot Air," "Allah," or "Ed Morrissey" when I link. If you notice, I did say "Ed wrote." I meant Ed at Hot Air. I will write "Ed Morrissey."

Posted by: ace at August 19, 2010 01:26 PM (QbA6l)

128 I am so committed that I shall vote thrice instead of my usual twice in the upcoming elections!

Posted by: grave dweller at August 19, 2010 01:26 PM (f0UXf)

129 Ace: "In a wave, SOMEONE is in for a shock."

Pwease don't let it be me.
Pwease don't let it be me.
Pwease don't let it be me.

Besides, I'm against Fannie-Freddie now? Don't you want me on your side? Am I not worthy?!

Posted by: Barney, Frankly at August 19, 2010 01:27 PM (swuwV)

130 Re: left leaning aquiantences

Being the jovial guy I am, I am preparing to send a guilt-ridden email to all my relatives, some of whom (I think) voted Obama, sternly requesting that they vote for anyone but Boxer/Brown -- just anyone but (for the future yada yada)... And that I ask in lieu of any Xmas/Birthday gift. I actually wanted to say don't bother sending one otherwise, but thought better.

Am I buying votes? I sure as hell am trying. If only we could each convert one. Penpals or somtin. Pull all stops nov here we come.

Posted by: Life o the party at August 19, 2010 01:27 PM (YWF64)

131

I have run out of pith.

A quart of Gatorade ought to fix that.

Posted by: FireHorse at August 19, 2010 01:27 PM (cQyWA)

132

Don't have to worry about them voting again, but I have a few more that I plan to do the same thing with in November.

You magnificent bastard!

Posted by: gator at August 19, 2010 01:28 PM (aOKEC)

133 "We are the wave" Oh are you now?!?!?! Don't think you RethugliKKKans can pull the wood over MY eyes!! I LEARNED from the after-school specials!! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wave_(novel)

Posted by: Emily's Lint at August 19, 2010 01:28 PM (qndXR)

134 I got a nasty virus from them, and I noticed others here did too.  I avoid them like jock rash now.  Please warn us. Posted by: MoSov

Which virus?

Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at August 19, 2010 01:29 PM (oL8lS)

135

I always vote -- every election (I don't do primaries every time, but generals, yeah), just because.

I've got everyone in my family who can be persuaded going out to vote...and...I've got about 2 dozen former registered Dems, who are all fired up and ready to vote -- straight party line GOP (amazing what happens to people when times are tight and their party basically spits on them).  We're meeting for a "vote party" (that way we can keep each other fired up and ready to roll).

Posted by: unknown jane at August 19, 2010 01:29 PM (5/yRG)

136 Ace,
I know you take a lot of smack for being too moderate at times and being too willing to accept moderate candidates.  I don't know all of your stances, but it's likely you're more moderate than me, as I'm just to the right of Limbaugh, Reagan, and Thomas.  But, I will say that your postings in the last couple of weeks have been spot on.  Just the right amount of rah rah, red meat, win one for the Gipper (see what I did there) with a reasoned, yet edgy delivery.

Keep doing what you do...let's make this a wave to remember.  

Posted by: The Hammer at August 19, 2010 01:30 PM (32ubA)

137 I'm partial to the term Tsunami when discussing leftard routs at the polls.

Posted by: maddogg at August 19, 2010 01:30 PM (OlN4e)

138

The bear has two responses now

1. Bear costume

2. Pudding

3. Vote

4. Profit!!!

Posted by: Mama AJ at August 19, 2010 01:31 PM (XdlcF)

139

I think you're geting a bit confused. The great schism is on the right. I keep hearing about an all-consuming civil war among conservatives. (Monty and I disagreed on something trivial about two months ago; maybe that's what everyone means.)

Posted by: FireHorse at August 19, 2010 05:23 PM (cQyWA)

The party schism is on the right, for sure. I'm talking about the unwillingness on the left to embrace a central party theme, at least superficially. When Reid starts questioning the wisdom of the GZ mosque my bullshit meter shorts out.

Our internal battle is a healthy one, their's is on self-destruct.

Posted by: ErikW at August 19, 2010 01:32 PM (Epd0E)

140

Anybody here going to D.C. on the 28th.It should be quite an event.

Posted by: ziptie at August 19, 2010 01:32 PM (UdYT0)

141 i knew it! there is so an 'inner circle' here at AoS. You guys talk and shit. And coordinate. Like a cabal.

Posted by: Our government is totally into anal. Totally. at August 19, 2010 01:33 PM (uFokq)

142

Could you also please send me a separate e-mail confirming that you intend on linking to Hot Air with the approximate time of that linking.  Thanks.

As well as a comment on every open thread on Hot Air, just in case I'm over there instead of here at the time.

 

Posted by: Ewoks for Independence at August 19, 2010 01:34 PM (tcMQZ)

143

We are the ones we have been waiting for.

We are the boot to the ass they have been asking for.

Posted by: sherlock at August 19, 2010 01:34 PM (f/lPF)

144 I'm in pretty solidly Red territory--I still find it amusing that a state with demographics like this (Alabama, for the record) still went McCain.  (So much for race as a political weapon...)  So pretty much my only joy this cycle is to end the brief Congressional career of Bobby Bright, D(oomed)-2(oblivion).

I wish I could vote in some of those other races out there, but I'm not a registered Democrat.  (No, dammit, I'm not denouncing myself.  I denounce all these denunciations!)

Remember, the burden's on those of you in bandit territory.  I can rant from my spot on the map all I want, but I can't toss out Pelosi, Reid, Frank, et al.  I can only do my own.  Those of us still in Red territory are depending on those what ain't.  Lock and load, gentlemen, it's time to carry your part of the load.

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at August 19, 2010 01:35 PM (IkEhE)

145 via Jawa Report:

CBS is asking us to vote on The One's performance so far.

Posted by: Gran at August 19, 2010 01:35 PM (xmjMj)

146 #150, Adware.  That piece of shit software that demands you purchase to clean the crap IT puts on you computer.  It's main pop-up has a light blue background as it "acts" like it's scanning your computer.  It commandeers every damned element of your machine.

Posted by: MoSov at August 19, 2010 01:35 PM (/nZ2Y)

147

>>> Could you also please send me a separate e-mail confirming that you intend on linking to Hot Air with the approximate time of that linking.  Thanks.

Sure go ahead and laugh - I got the same virus and it cost me $215 and 2hrs of down time.  It was nasty.

Posted by: Roadking at August 19, 2010 01:35 PM (m7wM4)

148

Could you also please send me a separate e-mail confirming that you intend on linking to Hot Air with the approximate time of that linking.  Thanks.

I would prefer a personal phone call, warning me in advance. Asking for a peremptory visit to the house would be presumptious of me so I won't ask for that........

 

Posted by: LGoPs at August 19, 2010 01:36 PM (+Uv5V)

149 I watched my Marine cousin get spit on and have rocks thrown at him when he came home from vietnam in 1968 after the tet offensive. He was over run twice, and was at the battle of Hue. I was a very young kid, but its something I never forgot. The rest of my life was spent with an ear bent to just who these assholes were, what they believe in, what makes them tick, and who they fucking vote for. They were evil, and I eventually learned they are represented by evil.

I never voted democrat in my life, ever. My cousin is gone now, but that image will always be with me, and  no matter what the republicans have done, they will always be a massive lesser of 2 evils. Given a choice  between slightly stupid sometimes, or evil to the bone, I'll go with stupid. You can educate stupid, but evil needs to be destroyed.

Posted by: Berserker at August 19, 2010 01:36 PM (gWHrG)

150 We need a margin of victory that kills ambiguity.

No chance for a 'no mandate' spin from Qwissy and Queefums.

A good ol' MO Prop C tidal wave.

I want Dems to be struck speechless, catatonic, in a fugue state for at least 24 hours at the rejection of their policies, their Messiah, and their Brave New World of Big Daddy Gummint.

Posted by: nickless at August 19, 2010 01:36 PM (MMC8r)

151

You magnificent bastard!

Posted by: gator at August 19, 2010 05:28 PM (aOKEC)

I was called a devious bitch at the time, and was damned glad to hear it.    They can call me whatever they want, but they will vote.

Oh...those 6 friends that I tricked into voting?    Some of the most vocal against our prezdick, now.    Can't freakin' shut 'em up about him.

Posted by: Steph at August 19, 2010 01:36 PM (580hG)

152 They need a spanking, not just a lesson

Posted by: ingenus at August 19, 2010 01:36 PM (+sBB4)

153 I want Boxer out and I want Moonbeam rejected.

Posted by: eman at August 19, 2010 01:37 PM (Nw/hR)

154 I want to thank Ace & the Acettes for not posting about Ann Coulter, WorldNet Daily, and GOPPud. I'm not in the mood for that nonsense.

Posted by: Our government is totally into anal. Totally. at August 19, 2010 01:37 PM (uFokq)

155 If you notice, I did say "Ed wrote." I meant Ed at Hot Air. I will write "Ed Morrissey."

How about a Flaming Skull o' Poppinfresh?

Posted by: nickless at August 19, 2010 01:38 PM (MMC8r)

156 Sorry, should have said grade his performance (A-F).

Posted by: Gran at August 19, 2010 01:38 PM (xmjMj)

157 I think you're geting a bit confused. The great schism is on the right. I keep hearing about an all-consuming civil war among conservatives. (Monty and I disagreed on something trivial about two months ago; maybe that's what everyone means.)

The schism here is,

We can sell....

A. Conservatism,
B. Reagan Brand Extra Strength Conservatism,
C. Holy Sh*t its 1776 Conservatism.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at August 19, 2010 01:38 PM (0q2P7)

158 >>>"They need a spanking, not just a lesson." And then the oral sex.

Posted by: Zoot at August 19, 2010 01:38 PM (uFokq)

159 "Please come upstairs and look at my HotAir links"

Posted by: ingenus at August 19, 2010 01:38 PM (+sBB4)

160 Thanks, Ace, on the HA warning.  Appreciate it.  BTW, you don't need to send me an email.  Polynikes is a bit demanding.

Posted by: MoSov at August 19, 2010 01:38 PM (/nZ2Y)

161

Ace is on fire and getting his game on for this fall. folks we are going to have to return with a VENGEANCE, and that means each and everyone of us. We must terminate Democratic command of congress. terminate with EXTREME prejudice. there will be plenty of chances to deal with any lingering Rinos, but don't get all caught up in that battle until we chase these rotten progressives out of town.

Posted by: exceller at August 19, 2010 01:38 PM (jx2Td)

162 If you notice, I did say "Ed wrote." I meant Ed at Hot Air. I will write "Ed Morrissey."


That's awesome you take constructive criticism and suggestions, respond on the spot and make changes to appease your followers.  What a refreshing change of pace to everyday life.

Good on ya, Ace.

Posted by: Sponge at August 19, 2010 01:39 PM (UK9cE)

163 162:  Just tossed in my two coins for the ferryman.  Turns out most of the country agrees with me.  (And that the only issues where he doesn't get majorities of failing grades are Iraq and Afghanistan, where I issued D's, for the record.)

Nya-ha-ha-ha-ha!

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at August 19, 2010 01:39 PM (IkEhE)

164 I cant wait to vote !  I dont think I ever cared to vote in a mid term.
My son will be casting his first vote.. he knows, he votes straight R or he can move out.  hehe

I think the stampede to vote will be awesome!

I gotta say... do you think most of those ridiculous kool aid voters even know there is a mid term in November? " Penny the moucher?"   ... detroit "Its Obama's stash" people...
Somehow I seriously doubt those folks sit around discussing the mid terms...or even know what a mid term is.

I completely get my parents hatred for Jimmy Carter now.  They never forgot those stupid years.  I certainly wont ever forget the Obama years either.

Posted by: Timbo at August 19, 2010 01:39 PM (ph9vn)

165 Oh, I forgot to add, I have a tab open right now to Hot Air. So don't read my comment!

Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at August 19, 2010 01:41 PM (oL8lS)

166 Mr. Dark Lord of the Internet, where in the great state of Alabama would you be? I was born in Mobile and have lived everywhere there is to live there.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 19, 2010 01:43 PM (kFODZ)

167 I abandoned HA months ago. It's like dumping a crappy, stupid girlfriend that sometimes is cool. Difficult at first, but then you start to smile more and those stupid headaches go away. Try it. Sometimes a link takes me there, but I run away like King Arthur.

Posted by: eman at August 19, 2010 01:44 PM (Nw/hR)

168 Don't you know it's bad form to remind us of what Obama-electing fucktards we are?

Posted by: Pouty conservative purist of 2008 at August 19, 2010 01:44 PM (Xd9fe)

169 Sorry, should have said grade his performance (A-F).

Posted by: Gran at August 19, 2010 05:38 PM (xmjMj)


That poll/grade is from January 2010, so it's a little old.

Posted by: Sponge at August 19, 2010 01:45 PM (UK9cE)

170 Tuscaloosa is an evil place

Posted by: ingenus at August 19, 2010 01:45 PM (+sBB4)

171 165 Could you also please send me a separate e-mail confirming that you intend on linking to Hot Air with the approximate time of that linking.  Thanks.

I would prefer a personal phone call, warning me in advance. Asking for a peremptory visit to the house would be presumptious of me so I won't ask for that........>>

Yeah, it was hysterically funny spending the equivalent of a week's worth of groceries to get it fixed.

Posted by: Miss Fluffy McNutter at August 19, 2010 01:46 PM (xMSXs)

172 183: Spent most of my mortal existence in Montgomery and environs.  I used to hate the place, but as I take a closer look these days at the places I thought I wanted to be...well, let's just say it doesn't look as bad anymore.  (Two years in Birmingham...yikes, that's a hole now...)

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at August 19, 2010 01:46 PM (IkEhE)

173 I think President Bush showing up to welcome the troops home was a huge reminder of how far we have sunk.
I dont remember Clinton doing anything like that after he got out of office.  And Barry.. he certainly wont.

Posted by: Timbo at August 19, 2010 01:46 PM (ph9vn)

174 181  They may not pay attention, but their ward's heelers do --  somebody will be picking them up and driving them in, I'm sure of it (their dead relatives too).  So...it's really important that people get out and vote this time.

Posted by: unknown jane at August 19, 2010 01:47 PM (5/yRG)

175

>>> Oh, I forgot to add, I have a tab open right now to Hot Air. So don't read my comment!

Dude - I could smell the taint on your comment before you even mentioned it.

*shivers*

Posted by: Roadking at August 19, 2010 01:47 PM (m7wM4)

176 The wave will be massively destructive.  The real question, the real task, is once these "conservatives" get into office will they remain true.  42% of us are cons..  20% libs.  The rest are unprincipled squishes that roam around.  We know this.  In the past, the conservative voters sent their people to DC and they turned soft almost immediately.

This time it's different.  Guaranteed.  That 40%, which I'm a part (61 yo and never been more pissed off), and a Tea Partier (www.mosov.org) will see to it that whoever we send to Plant DC will NOT go soft.  If they use either "cross the aisle" or "bipartisanship" just once, they the voices will be deafening.  They will be watched like a hawk on a perpetual basis.

That 40% will never leave the protest sidewalk again and go back into the house.  We have taken up permanent residence on that said sidewalk.

Posted by: www.MoSov.org at August 19, 2010 01:54 PM (/nZ2Y)

177 OK, morons. Listen up. I live in Maine. I get to vote for either Republicans who won't win, or RINOs who do. I voted for McCain in '08 even though I despise him and knew he couldn't possibly win the state. So if I can waste my time every two years voting for losers and RINOs,  you morons can show up in reasonably competitive districts and states where you can have the satisfaction, which I will never know, of feeling like you made a difference.

Posted by: schizuki at August 19, 2010 01:57 PM (Xd9fe)

178 @162

Dayum, President Radioactive is getting crushed.  Not just a little....we're talking colossally crushed.  "F" is the order of the day for the Won We've Been Waiting For.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 19, 2010 01:58 PM (M6enm)

179 I have one more word: DOWNBALLOT!

We need this wave to sweep the GOP into statehouses like never before.

Don't be Stupaked into thinkin there is a "moderate" Democrat on the ticket.

This is a redistricting year.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 19, 2010 01:59 PM (T0NGe)

180 Well, I think the bear will be satisfied with: 1. impeaching some lefty federal judges. 2. repeal obcare 3. FMA 4. Another amendment that bans public sector unions and public GOTV/voter fraud orgs like ACORN. 5. Override Obama veto to reinstall Bush tax cuts or Bushtax cuts plus a little extra off the top 6. slash federal spending to, oh, I don't know 2001 levels. 7. investigate the fuck out of everyone we know to be dirty.

Posted by: joeindc44 at August 19, 2010 01:59 PM (QxSug)

181 oops

Posted by: joeindc44 at August 19, 2010 02:03 PM (QxSug)

182 Don't you know it's bad form to remind us of what Obama-electing fucktards we are?

Posted by: Pouty conservative purist of 2008
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Posted by: Sonya Sotomayor and Elena Kagan at August 19, 2010 02:05 PM (Xd9fe)

183 the virus, i have no idea if i got it at HA although i read them several times a week, what happened is it took over saying i could not use IE , then it said my AVG had a virus, always with no function at all unless i was willining to BUY their virus kit. pro vira something..malwarebytes killed it (i hope) but my computer is wacky now.

Posted by: willow at August 19, 2010 02:10 PM (/x2TR)

184

re 203 the virus, i have no idea if i got it at HA

i run around , da da da run around all over the net  that's to keep my ace of spades sexy credentials up.

Posted by: willow at August 19, 2010 02:12 PM (/x2TR)

185 Posted by: MoSov at August 19, 2010 05:35 PM

Had that a couple weeks ago here.

Cost me more than $130 to get it fixed. Especially when the first (national Big Time computer-fixer chain that has its techs drive around in VW Beetles *coughs*) repair lasted a matter of hours and the damn pop-ups were in control again.

And as for my feelings about the Tepid Air crowd: they represent what I consider bad news for conservatives. We cannot win if we backtrack, equivocate, play "fair" and revel in "nuance." Honesty and directness are the only policies, IMO.

You have to stake out a position and consider every hill worth fighting for. Ace has been doing that lately. Those other guys, not so much.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 19, 2010 02:17 PM (Ulu3i)

186 I get to vote for either Republicans who won't win, or RINOs who do.

One word: DOWNBALLOT.

Get them into the statehouse.  Let them work their way up.  Look, Maine-iacs won't vote GOP because they think there's some moral value in voting Dem. 

They won't change their habits until they see likable conservatives doing good stuff.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 19, 2010 02:20 PM (T0NGe)

187

Berserker, #166: ... what they believe in, what makes them tick ...

The way I see it, there are two types of government -- there's the type where other people tell you what to do and exert their control over you, and there's the type where you decide matters over your life and property. I say "government" in the broadest possible sense, encompassing pretty much all human interactions. For lack of better terms, the first is tyranny, the second is freedom.

Each is appropriate in a certain setting. Tyranny (at its best) describes what parents do with their 1-year-old children and what companies do with new hires, for examples. Mentally handicapped people are also subject to a level of tyranny, depending on the level of their handicap. When a cop tells a driver to do something, the driver complies. Tyranny is part of life, and it's good -- but only sometimes.

But there are people who like to be on the upper side of these interactions, just because. They take a perverse pleasure in telling you what to do. The more arbitrary their power, and the more their subjects suffer, the more they like it. These are the sadists who become the religion cops in Taliban Afghanistan or join the Gestapo or become street toughs hassling people on buses. It's a power thing, and it strikes me as demonic.

Consider: Bush didn't have overwhelming support for invading Iraq. He responded by trying to increase popular support for the invasion. He was going to do it anyway because he thought it best, but he also tried to convince everyday Americans that it was best. This is why I consider Bush to be a great president -- not because his decision was correct, but his authority was wielded respectfully and in the service of those who gave it to him.

Obama, on the other hand, considered the passage of the health care bill to be a victory even though six out of ten people opposed it. The thing is that he didn't even try to convince me that this was a good thing. He was all about the votes. It's as though he didn't care what popular support he had -- or, worse, he cared but preferred more opposition. (Ace has pointed this out; as commenters have pointed out, he's been on fire lately.)

As far as what people like these believe in, I'm convinced there's no philosophy or worldview they hold in common except for this: You belong to them. There are no limits to this -- they'll take part of your money, then the rest of your money, then your stuff, then your soul. And they're everywhere.

Then again, so are we, and this November we have to, have to, have to step forward and be counted, each and every one of us.

(Sorry for being all verbose and stuff. I hope there's something useful here.)

Posted by: FireHorse at August 19, 2010 02:31 PM (cQyWA)

188 From the first link: "outright fear."

Warms the cockles of my heart.  Makes me wanna beat it like I'm Ike Turner.

Posted by: FUBAR at August 19, 2010 02:34 PM (LPL4Z)

189 Yeah, I got the virus from Hot Air too--$130 to fix.  That site is as diseased as Andrew Sullivan's colon.

Posted by: Leo Ladenson at August 19, 2010 03:07 PM (mAm+G)

190 MrScribbler: I got that on 3 separate occasions last month but think I know how to handle it and nip it in the bud. Does it change your proxy so you can't access the internet for help? Does it corrupt your explorer and browser? First, you have to change the proxy back to what it was. Then you have to run a portable virus scan like superantispyware which you can download for free onto a usb drive or something. It will get rid of it for you. I'd like to find who started this virus and beat them into a coma with a baseball bat.

Posted by: Moi at August 19, 2010 03:07 PM (Ez4Ql)

191 "...We are the wave...."

Wait a minute. I thought We Are The World.

Wave/World....I always get those things mixed up.

Seriously, though, I agree that piling on has it's advantages, but those GOP knuckleheads had better know that they're on a short leash. There'll be no more of that McCain/Feingold, McCain/Kennedy bi-partisan crap. No more Bridges-to-Nowhere in your district so I can get a Farm Subsidy in mine.

With any luck, it'll be ironic if the "fundamental transformation" that Zero sought will be delivered to him in buckets.

Also, a couple of days ago, my homies over at exurbanleague.com had this little breath of fresh air....
http://tinyurl.com/2fnrd3j

Posted by: azlibertarian at August 19, 2010 03:16 PM (zw1gy)

192 Chemjeff, this may be my first big disagreement with something I've seen you post. Of course there is a duty to vote. Not to vote is no more a statement than not flushing.

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at August 19, 2010 03:23 PM (kJXs1)

193

RE: viruses.

GET NoScript on Firefox, with no exceptions to ANY ad companies.  Including google-analytics (not the other google extensions, for the most part)

Keeps me surfing safe, even unto the heart of internet darkness

Also keeps pandora from playing ads, and all of those stupid fucking "call-out" ads (you know, the ones that float off of the browser window.

Posted by: s'moron at August 19, 2010 03:41 PM (UaxA0)

194 GET NoScript on Firefox, with no exceptions to ANY ad companies.  Including google-analytics (not the other google extensions, for the most part)

Also, do not load Flash Player on the browser you use for general blogging and surfing. Flash Player is one of the ways the phony virus scam trojan loads.

Posted by: Vic at August 19, 2010 03:49 PM (/jbAw)

195 >>>Seriously, though, I agree that piling on has it's advantages, but those GOP knuckleheads had better know that they're on a short leash. There'll be no more of that McCain/Feingold, McCain/Kennedy bi-partisan crap. If the Democrats are afraid of the Tea Party, don't you think the GOP is?

Posted by: ace at August 19, 2010 04:01 PM (QbA6l)

196 yes Ace!!! the awesomeness of this is just so damned AWESOME!! WE ARE THE WAVE!!

MAKE the wave!
FEEL the wave!

as Chevy Chase said in Caddyshack-

BE the wave!

we are the waaaaave
we are the voters
we are the ones to kick the Democrats out
cause they are nutters

there's a choice we're makiiiiing
we're saving our own JOBS!
so vote to make a brighter day
for you and meeeeee

well, well, well, well....

*gettin my 80s Cyndi Lauper voice on now*


Posted by: mim/ginaswo at August 19, 2010 04:10 PM (6uk6i)

197 i once told some of my lib friends. haughty in their messiah's victory that the need for checking themselves has arrived. the democrats over-played obama, in my opinion, theyre doomed.

this current dem congress/president threw their cards on the table, they went all in, game over.

theyve celebritized the presidency and politics in general, but theyll never learn. just as with hollywood, so the same with them. people liked lindsay lohan at first didnt they...now everyone laughs and agrees shes an annoying piece of garbage. same thing with obama, and as we all know, its more fun to tear someone down after theyve been so high up.

obama and the democrats arent going to just "wake up" tomorrow and shift the polls, theyre only gonna get worse, or at the least, stay right where they are- loathed. i think these elections in november will only make them angrier despite their stupid smiles and the eventual 'this loss is actually good for the dems' crap we're gonna hear from the media. this is gonna be an epic pounding of epic proportions.

good for em, fuck em. beat them down right into the ground i say. then when the smoke clears im going to play every video of singing chirrens, fainting cultists, music videos, first lady fashion articles, celebrity commercials etc i can and just laugh. "you voted in a fucking loser one term president, the worst president ever...look how the media and the dems hoodwinked you". and drink beer while im doing it, laughing the whole time.

......my god....itll be beautiful.......and im stephen hawking....i fucking know everything goddammit.

Posted by: stephen hawkings, man of science at August 19, 2010 04:11 PM (icVev)

198 211. shxt! you beat me to it, as a recovering Dem I have We Are the World pretty much on an endless loop in my head, have to work hard to override the programming donchaknow! lol

Posted by: mim/ginaswo at August 19, 2010 04:12 PM (6uk6i)

199 and hell yes the margin of the EPIC LOSS for the Dems must be SO GREAT, so AWESOME, they never ever try this again (until we Gen Xers are Seniors then we can smack em down again as needed)

Double Tap people, good rule from Zombieland.

Bring at LEAST 2 voters with you to the polls, so each trip we get 3 votes,

triple tap

just in case

Posted by: mim/ginaswo at August 19, 2010 04:14 PM (6uk6i)

200 "I have We Are the World pretty much on an endless loop in my head"


---- we are the world was a song by various artists in the 80's raising charity for starving african children.....just letting you all know is all......im stephen hawking.

Posted by: stephen hawkings, man of science at August 19, 2010 04:15 PM (icVev)

201

Ace, my man, you give too much credit to the Tea Party.

They have been marginally effective in similar respect to Ross Perot's notoriety. But, as always, the Republican Party will prevail in November on its own merits. Your criticisms of the Republican Party show a certain lack of maturity and sophistication.

Posted by: Atrollpasinthru at August 19, 2010 04:23 PM (sYrWB)

202

KARL ROVE!!!!  YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!

B+rry will kill communism for another generation.

Posted by: torabora at August 19, 2010 04:43 PM (WNp4r)

203 162 via Jawa Report:

CBS is asking us to vote on The One's performance so far.

Posted by: Gran at August 19, 2010 05:35 PM (xmjMj)

The Kenyan is getting more 'F's' than all the A B C & D's  put together. How long will CBS keep this up?

Posted by: torabora at August 19, 2010 04:56 PM (WNp4r)

204 If the O is Radioactive Man, who is Fallout Boy?

Sugar, we're going down swingin'

Posted by: Fallout Boy at August 19, 2010 06:03 PM (c12TC)

205 My wife & I will be riding the crest of that wave as it sweeps Joe Sestak out of Pennsylvania and into some far away retirement in Clintonia.

And in two more years, we'll be ridin' the tube as it spits Lil' Bobby Casey out into the tidal pool from whence his retarded ass crawled...

Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at August 19, 2010 09:57 PM (SgL5z)

206

"Sherman, set the Wayback Machine for 1994."

"But Mr. Peabody, we seem to already be in 1994."

 

Posted by: Max Entropy at August 19, 2010 11:16 PM (7FgWm)

207 I don't want to see subpeonas and investigations.  I want to see impeachments.  Obama, Holder, Reid, Phewlosi, Cocksucking Frank, and the rest of the degenerate lot of Democraps.

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209 I really hate these "Miss me yet" post on various Conservative blogs. Yes Obama and the Democrats are way worst then Bush's "Compassionate Conservatism" but Bush's policy's are nothing for real Conservatives to pine for.

If I wanted to yearn for the days of a real Conservative in the White House then I'll do it for Ronald Reagan. That's a man actually worth yearning for.

Posted by: GhostShip at August 20, 2010 07:10 AM (4VxpQ)

210 The error here is in thinking that what matters is what the elected officials do, and therefore, what influence can be exercised over them. That is wrong. Votes do not determine reality. Reality does not follow elections. The elected must of necessity obey reality. They can pretend not to for a while, but the longer they do so, the harder it bites them in the end. Ace hasn't figured this out. I keep seeing posts here about Obama's poll numbers. He has been in the 40s for the past six months: NOTHING SIGNIFICANT HAS CHANGED. A significant fraction of the population of the USA was capable of voting for the man in the first place, and are not likely to change their minds: that is the real, basic, problem. The electoral course is a dead end. We will not be voting our way out of this situation, and the Tea Party, as admirable as its ideals are, will not have any serious impact on the current progress of events. Electing Republicans this year will just be one more part of liberalism's two-steps-forward-one-step-back dance. Republicans are constitutionally incapable of actually opposing liberalism, as they are fundamentally liberal themselves. The only way out is through. (Oh, and Reagan? As governor of CA, signed the first no-fault divorce law in the country. Yeah, great job there. That's eaten away at this society more than just about anything else that's happened. The verdict of history is not yet complete on this man.)

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