June 07, 2010

Monday Morning Economic Briefing
— Monty

Last night's DJIA futures were down about 1%, but seem to have recovered overnight. "It was all just a bad dream," officials said soothingly. "Just go back to sleepy-bye, my darlings."

Many economists are predicting the end of the Euro, but Jean-Claude Trichet insists that it's only a flesh wound. "We'll make it up on exports!", cry the optimists. (No word yet as to who in the world has enough money to buy those exports.)

Even the lunatic-state North Korea is not immune to economic pressures. Due to the failure of the "You'll do what I tell you and like it!" economic plan, and failing health, Kim Jong-Il is trying to establish the succession of power in preparation for the day when the Devil comes to collect his black shrivelled raisin of a soul. Heightened tensions with South Korea have put world markets on edge.

"Our representative was apparently smoking crack-rock", said Hungarian officials over the weekend, in response to questions about Hungary's potential for default on its debts. "Seriously, this dude was tripping balls. We're not broke or anything -- honest! Pinkie swear!" Hungarian officials then whipped out rolls of Hungarian bank-notes and riffled them. "Check out this cheeze. Does this look like we're broke, bitches?"

In other news, California is still boned.

Brought to you by Purina Human Chow.

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1 Sad to be awake already

Posted by: Y-not at June 07, 2010 04:33 AM (Kn9r7)

2 If the Argies really wanted to take the Islas Malvinas from the Brits, wouldn't it be easier to rename their country the Islamic Republic of Argentina, put Christina Kirchner in a Burka and just say Boo???

Posted by: dr kill at June 07, 2010 04:37 AM (w9bVp)

3 More good news. Pull quote: Fry sees three outcomes for the global economy and none of them makes very good reading. “You can have lower rates and deflation, higher rates and higher inflation or the nightmare scenario of higher rates and deflating asset prices,” he said. It's just a wonderland of happy thoughts out there.

Posted by: Monty at June 07, 2010 04:42 AM (4Pleu)

4 On the economic front, I think I will be saving some money since I want to loose 20-30 pounds although that Allie stuff is expensive so maybe not?

Posted by: nevergiveup at June 07, 2010 04:45 AM (0GFWk)

5 Does the Human Chow come in "Frosted"? Does it get mushy in milk or stay crisp for a while?

Posted by: jcjimi at June 07, 2010 04:49 AM (I7L+g)

6 If the Aggies wanted the Maldives, they should have hired some third rate actors, staged a series of melodramatic protests, and had a bunch of academics write articles about the post-colonial evil occupation ... The Brits would have paid them to take them.

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2010 04:50 AM (JaO+v)

7 Maybe this is a good week to start drinking heavily.

UK Cameron: Interest Payments On Govt Debt GBP70 Bln By 2015


LONDON (Dow Jones)--The U.K. government would have to pay GBP70 billion in interest on its debt by 2015 if it doesn't take urgent action to cut its borrowing, Prime Minister David Cameron said Monday.

When paying off the interest on your debt starts to be the primary allocation for your budget...only chaos ensues. 

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 07, 2010 04:51 AM (9hSKh)

8 Sad? Yeah, and conscious ain't no barrel of fun neither.

Posted by: bigred at June 07, 2010 04:51 AM (WUwAu)

9 I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

Posted by: Johnnyreb at June 07, 2010 04:52 AM (Mv/2X)

10 5 Does the Human Chow come in "Frosted"? Does it get mushy in milk or stay crisp for a while?

Try some free-range hobos if the canned Human Chow gets too old for you.  If there's one thing that Obamanomics is going to stimulate the production of, it's more hobos.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 07, 2010 04:53 AM (9hSKh)

11

Ponzi apocalypse is boring.

 

Bring on the zombies.

Posted by: ether at June 07, 2010 04:55 AM (n9G1U)

12

The Joos spread their human chow on bagels.  They call it "lox." 

I'm always sad that when I was in Korea, I never got a sideways-pinstripe suit. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 07, 2010 04:55 AM (8lCJT)

13 Do hobos can well? I suppose it's all in the canning...

Posted by: jcjimi at June 07, 2010 04:57 AM (I7L+g)

14 Thankfully I just landed a job. That's my Monday good news

Posted by: Mjim at June 07, 2010 04:57 AM (mMdWG)

15 Deep Fried with lots of Tabasco -- cures all

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2010 04:59 AM (vb5IK)

16 Mjim,
Sweet! Off to mine now.

Posted by: jcjimi at June 07, 2010 04:59 AM (I7L+g)

17 Congrats, mjim.  Your futures are higher this morning. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 07, 2010 04:59 AM (8lCJT)

18 I'm still going to continue to expand my portfolio in shoes, bacon and weaponry. 

Posted by: alexthechick at June 07, 2010 04:59 AM (8WZWv)

19 Do we want to post some wagers on how fast the market gets to a Rule 48 stoppage this morning?

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2010 04:59 AM (QFzyw)

20 Buy stock in those damn hanging tomato planters.  Everyone's gonna want them.

Posted by: Todd Bridges, Survivor. Outwit, outlast and outplay. at June 07, 2010 05:00 AM (qL20/)

21 You guys and your Republican Congress of 2011 might want to thank Prime Minister Stephen Harper if the U.S. doesn't go along with the "bank tax" and you guys bailing out the world's shitty banks even more than you already do through the IMF. (See you tonight; I'm off.)

Posted by: andycanuck at June 07, 2010 05:00 AM (7b1Uc)

22 Well, since Bambi took over Ticketmaster we"ll all have front row seats to the Apocholypse.

Posted by: bigred at June 07, 2010 05:00 AM (WUwAu)

23 Fuck the Euro. It opened at like $0.88 and quickly shot up to retard strength.

That's the problem with fiat currency. Without a commodity to index against, currencies are as valuable as people "feel" they are, which is as irrational as the DJIA shitting 1000 points in a single session, then making up nearly all the losses the next trading day.

The Euro's strength has always been based on European feelings of superiority to the U.S. and now they're having their pants pulled down. Fuck 'em with a bent rebar. I'm glad to see their socialist experiment go down in flames. Hopefully we'll learn from it in time.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 07, 2010 05:01 AM (CthB/)

24 Congrats, mjim!

although that Allie stuff is expensive so maybe not?

I wouldn't worry so much about the expense as the anal leakage.  You know, that's not a side effect, that's a freaking oh HELL NO for use for me. 

Posted by: alexthechick at June 07, 2010 05:01 AM (8WZWv)

25 If anyone wants a good overview of why lots of us considered the Euro project doomed from the start, this article by Martin Feldstein at the Weekly Standard is a good overview. Overview: when monetary policy and fiscal policy are not in alignment, you get a big fat FAIL.

Posted by: Monty at June 07, 2010 05:01 AM (4Pleu)

26

From the Nork article at the KCNA New York Times: 

The departing premier reportedly made a rare apology in February for making a policy blunder after the government drastically revalued its currency in a move that was designed to fight inflation but created public unrest.

Inflation?  Public Unrest?  I do not think Pyongyang is like Athens. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 07, 2010 05:03 AM (8lCJT)

27 I always thought that the Euro was doomed because they didn't have a weird short guy, like Napoleon or Hitler, in charge.

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2010 05:03 AM (JaO+v)

28 @4
I think I will be saving some money since I want to loose 20-30 pounds

It is one of the most annoying things of modern life that losing weight usually costs money... unless you are willing to lose weight by cutting meat and switching to one of those whole grain diets.  Personally, I find I can only eat so much brown rice and beans! 

Posted by: Y-not at June 07, 2010 05:03 AM (Kn9r7)

29 14 Thankfully I just landed a job. That's my Monday good news.

Kudos to you, Mjim!  Any good news is welcome around here.

Iran's first women-only bank opens in holy city of Mashhad - IRNA news agency via Reuters

Aint that sweet of the Iranians...

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 07, 2010 05:04 AM (9hSKh)

30 Thankfully I just landed a job. That's my Monday good news This is why I always go long on the Moron Nation. Congrats!

Posted by: Monty at June 07, 2010 05:04 AM (4Pleu)

31 Congrats, Mjim!


Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 07, 2010 05:05 AM (OkT2m)

32 14 Thankfully I just landed a job. That's my Monday good news

Congrats!

Posted by: Y-not at June 07, 2010 05:06 AM (Kn9r7)

33 8 Sad? Yeah, and conscious ain't no barrel of fun neither.

Posted by: bigred at June 07, 2010 08:51 AM (WUwAu)

I hear ya!

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at June 07, 2010 05:08 AM (YVZlY)

34

Thankfully I just landed a job. That's my Monday good news.

Outstanding! Good for you. One down, several million more to go...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 07, 2010 05:10 AM (i3AsK)

35 Thats some rare good news on Monty thread, Mjim.

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2010 05:10 AM (PjevJ)

36 So Helen Thomas didn't get canned? I just heard that she had been disinvited from a HS graduation, but I was sure that she'd get fired.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 07, 2010 05:11 AM (7EDH5)

37 It is one of the most annoying things of modern life that losing weight usually costs money...

I lose weight when I can't afford beer and get it back when I can.  *snicker*

Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 07, 2010 05:11 AM (OkT2m)

38 "Our representative was apparently smoking crack-rock", said Hungarian officials over the weekend, in response to questions about Hungary's potential for default on its debts. "Seriously, this dude was tripping balls. We're not broke or anything -- honest! Pinkie swear!" Hungarian officials then whipped out rolls of Hungarian bank-notes and riffled them. "Check out this cheeze. Does this look like we're broke, bitches?"

hahahhahhahahhahahhahahahhahah

Posted by: curious at June 07, 2010 05:11 AM (p302b)

39 See, this is why i've spent years amassing my huge stash of collectible dinner plates. I have a hunch that when the shit hits the fan they'll become the currency of the new world. Ain't nobody gonna want a piece of worthless paper, but a plate with a nice calming scene of ducks taking flight or Mr. T lettting the fools know he pities them? Gold my friends.

Posted by: koopy at June 07, 2010 05:12 AM (awinc)

40 I wouldn't worry so much about the expense as the anal leakage. You know, that's not a side effect, that's a freaking oh HELL NO for use for me. Posted by: alexthechick at June 07, 2010 09:01 AM (8WZWv) I know I Know. I am not all that over weight. As a matter of fact I am with in standards for the US Navy, but I still want to loose some weight and although that can be nasty stuff, it does speed the process.

Posted by: nevergiveup at June 07, 2010 05:13 AM (0GFWk)

41 When paying off the interest on your debt starts to be the primary allocation for your budget...only chaos ensues. That's why either deflation (if interest rates stay near zero) or inflation (if interest rates go up) is all but assured. I'm betting on inflation, because bond-rates can't stay at zero forever. Helicopter Ben will run the presses to meet the debt payments. Deflation is politically intolerable -- no politician would allow it. They'd be run out of town on a rail. Inflation is more insidious and easier to hide behind semantic tricks ("quantitative easing", for example).

Posted by: Monty at June 07, 2010 05:13 AM (4Pleu)

42 I SHALL inherit the earth.

Posted by: The Cockroach at June 07, 2010 05:13 AM (5jCbz)

43 Guess Dean Wormer was wrong. Fat, drunk, and stupid is the only way to go through the life in the Bammy years.

Posted by: bigred at June 07, 2010 05:14 AM (WUwAu)

44 "14 Thankfully I just landed a job. That's my Monday good news

Posted by: Mjim at June 07, 2010 08:57 AM (mMdWG)"

wooo hoooo....great.....good for you....go get em.....you're the best...

oh what great news this morning!!!!   congratulations...

Posted by: curious at June 07, 2010 05:14 AM (p302b)

45

Brought to you by Purina Human Chow.

Seriously real possibility at the rate things are going. Oh. well, Taco Bell is already serving that shit under the title of burrito.

Posted by: maddogg at June 07, 2010 05:15 AM (OlN4e)

46 While we're on the subject; my sympathy for California could be fit into a shot glass and still have room for a shot.

Posted by: maddogg at June 07, 2010 05:17 AM (OlN4e)

47 Whoever was saying that diets are expensive, do a sugar cleanse.  My friend is doing one and she is already losing weight.  It's tough though cause "high fructose corn syrup" is in everything.  But they say if you are off sugar for 40 days....you will begin to lose weight naturally without doing much else.  As long as you drink water and exercise a little bit.  So far, she is losing weight and she feels better.

Posted by: curious at June 07, 2010 05:17 AM (p302b)

48 John Cole of Balloon Juice fame is upset about the Helen Thomas comments.  Not with the actual comments themselves silly!  With the people (like Craig Crawford) disassociating themselves from the comments.!

A Real Profile In Courage

"Craig Crawford:

I concur with the following response from my agent to Helen Thomas’ lamentable remarks about Israel, and will no longer be working with Helen on our book projects.—Craig Crawford

Condemning an almost ninety year old woman and severing all ties over an offensive remark takes balls! So bold! So noble! Any thoughts on Jimmy the Greek or Howard Cosell? HeÂ’s already left MSNBC citing irreconcilable differences- how long before he is at PJTV or FOX?"

And his comments section is littered with anti-Semites now.  Wow, that blog has really gone way downhill.

Posted by: Phil at June 07, 2010 05:20 AM (6Oe5v)

49 The next contestant in the European broke-a-lympics is...Belgium! Let's give her a big hand, folks!

Posted by: Monty at June 07, 2010 05:20 AM (4Pleu)

50 Posted by: Monty at June 07, 2010 09:20 AM (4Pleu)

What? are the waffles in danger?

Posted by: curious at June 07, 2010 05:21 AM (p302b)

51 Does Belgium have a Government yet - or are they still refighting the war of 1870?

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2010 05:24 AM (tJF9l)

52 Maddog, how about inside a raindrop and still have room for rain?

Posted by: bigred at June 07, 2010 05:26 AM (WUwAu)

53 43 I SHALL inherit the earth.

Posted by: The Cockroach at June 07, 2010 09:13 AM (5jCbz)

Get in line, bitch!

Posted by: The Meek at June 07, 2010 05:26 AM (YVZlY)

54

The European union. Has a flag no one salutes, an anthem no one sings, a army that couldn't defend its own barracks, and a currency no one really wanted.

 

Yup that sounds exactly like early America...

Posted by: Ben at June 07, 2010 05:27 AM (wuv1c)

55 43 I SHALL inherit the earth.

And so will I.  We must fight to the death!

Posted by: Cher at June 07, 2010 05:27 AM (9hSKh)

56

Does Belgium have a Government yet - or are they still refighting the war of 1870?

how can you take a group with the name Walloons seriously?

Posted by: Ben at June 07, 2010 05:27 AM (wuv1c)

57 2 minutes until...weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Posted by: Today's Stocke Market at June 07, 2010 05:28 AM (YVZlY)

58 Germany should just make an economic union with all the germanic and nordic countries. it would be considerably stronger and more stable.

Posted by: Ben at June 07, 2010 05:28 AM (wuv1c)

59 Learned something new today from the Belgium link -- "the Bond Gods" fear them Kratos

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2010 05:29 AM (tTdaQ)

60 whew. dow up 8 poins. all is well

Posted by: Ben at June 07, 2010 05:31 AM (wuv1c)

61 On the other hand, Anal Leakage would be a great name for a rock band.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 07, 2010 05:32 AM (i3AsK)

62

60 Germany should just make an economic union with all the germanic and nordic countries. it would be considerably stronger and more stable.

They tried that in the early forties, didn't work out.

Posted by: maddogg at June 07, 2010 05:33 AM (OlN4e)

63 Ben, thats just European money running for cover - the pain will come later. I'm guessing a Rule 48 stoppage by noon, followed by a mysterious cash surge at three o'clock.

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2010 05:33 AM (tTdaQ)

64 whew. dow up 8 poins. all is well Well, thank Christ. Our long national nightmare is over.

Posted by: Monty at June 07, 2010 05:33 AM (4Pleu)

65

Well, thank Christ. Our long national nightmare is over.

Zero resigned?

Posted by: maddogg at June 07, 2010 05:35 AM (OlN4e)

67 50 What a bunch of idiots at Balloon Juice. I attempted to post a comment, but I'm doubtful that it will survive the moderation process. I kinda went "full Godwin" on them.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 07, 2010 05:36 AM (7EDH5)

68 They tried that in the early forties, didn't work out. To be honest, if they had been stopped at the "Phony War" stage; the world would look very different today.

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2010 05:36 AM (OlnxK)

Posted by: Juji Fruit at June 07, 2010 05:37 AM (0fzsA)

70 well....the sooner it all fails the sooner we can repair it

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 07, 2010 05:37 AM (ucxC/)

71 German factory orders up, one possible reason for today's Euro jump.

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 07, 2010 05:38 AM (xOTwH)

72 Can somebody PLEASE get this boot off of my neck?

Posted by: America at June 07, 2010 05:38 AM (x4S2a)

73 Did anyone read the ZH article on a copper/Crude oil monetary base?

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2010 05:41 AM (vb5IK)

74 Can somebody PLEASE get this boot off of my neck? Posted by: America at June 07, 2010 09:38 AM (x4S2a) Nov 2010---Vote Baby Vote, like your life depends on it!

Posted by: nevergiveup at June 07, 2010 05:41 AM (0GFWk)

75 German factory orders up, one possible reason for today's Euro jump. Most of that is due to China buying heavy machinery, and it won't last. Germany has been front-loading their inventories through the spring to benefit from the lower Euro exchange-rate. China's economy is cooling off (whether accidentally or on purpose), so I doubt the Germans will be able to sustain this over the summer. And even if they can, it doesn't help any of the other Eurozone countries -- it's actually yet another reason for Germany to leave the Euro and revert to the DM.

Posted by: Monty at June 07, 2010 05:41 AM (4Pleu)

77 Waterhouse, are those the factories coining new DM?

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2010 05:41 AM (vb5IK)

78 After a couple of seconds of positive-territory euphoria, the DJIA remembers that everything sucks and turns negative again.

Posted by: Monty at June 07, 2010 05:42 AM (4Pleu)

79 That is my ode to Fwank, and Dudd.

Those fuckers need to answer some questions NOW.

Posted by: MelodicMetal at June 07, 2010 05:42 AM (x4S2a)

80 The only speech I want to hear from Bama is the one that starts "It is with a heavy heart that I...." Maybe someone could slip that in on the prompter. The market would hit 20,000 before he figured out what he just said.

Posted by: bigred at June 07, 2010 05:42 AM (WUwAu)

81

Early America did start out with a EU-style decentralised system. This was the Articles Of Confederation era. About the nicest thing I can say about it is that it held the country together long enough for various factions to come up with a Constitution that lasted longer.

Posted by: Zimriel at June 07, 2010 05:43 AM (9Sbz+)

82 Try Crusty Brand Imitation Human Chow, 4 out of 5 C.H.U.D. can't tell the difference.

Posted by: damian at June 07, 2010 05:43 AM (4WbTI)

83 So "US Truck Rates Are Soaring" according to clusterstock.  And the problem is they need more equipment.  So I asked my friends about this and people are saying they don't see as many trucks on the road as they did two years ago.  So wonder what is up with this article.

Posted by: curious at June 07, 2010 05:43 AM (p302b)

84 so I doubt the Germans will be able to sustain this over the summer.

Yeah, the article says Germany's GDP growth forecast is still only 1.6% for the year, which is pretty weaksauce.


Posted by: Waterhouse at June 07, 2010 05:43 AM (xOTwH)

85 Here we go! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.......

Posted by: Today's Stock Market at June 07, 2010 05:44 AM (YVZlY)

86

Try Crusty Brand Imitation Human Chow, 4 out of 5 C.H.U.D. can't tell the difference.

each bag comes with a metal Krusty-O

Posted by: Ben at June 07, 2010 05:45 AM (wuv1c)

87 how is the vix today?

Posted by: curious at June 07, 2010 05:45 AM (p302b)

88 Zimriel: The United States prior to the Civil War was far more federalist than in the post-war years. Shelby Foote, in his commentary on Ken Burns' Civil War documentary, said something that always stuck with me: prior to that war, we always said "The United States are...". After the war, we said "The United States is...". We went from a collection of federalized states into a single nation, for good or ill.

Posted by: Monty at June 07, 2010 05:45 AM (4Pleu)

89 I've always thought Bachelor Chow, as seen on Futurama, would be a good idea.

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 07, 2010 05:46 AM (xOTwH)

90 61 Learned something new today from the Belgium link -- "the Bond Gods" fear them Kratos

Read that too.  Seem like the kind of Gods that are impervious even to the Blade of Olympus. 

And lookie here, Spain's reacting predictably to what they need to do.

MADRID, June 7 (Reuters) - Spain's public sector strike against a government austerity plan on Tuesday will allow the country's unemployed to vent their frustration but the real test will come in response to labour reform to be unveiled this week. Tuesday's work stoppage and planned marches, called after the government rammed through a plan to shave 15 billion euros ($17.91 billion) off the budget with public sector cuts, is a shot across the government's bows before unions receive its draft of much-awaited labour reform on Wednesday.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 07, 2010 05:46 AM (9hSKh)

91 I'd like to catch a bunch of floor traders holding their hands over their heads and yelling Wheeeee ...

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2010 05:47 AM (PjevJ)

92

Jean 76, the ZH commenters are having a good long laugh at it.

Copper and crude are boomtime commodities, unless someone is interfering with the supply chain (by blockading Hormuz and Suez, for instance). When everything sucks, demand for that stuff falls off. Making those commodities the base for a monetary system makes no sense to me, and it doesn't make much sense to ZH either.

Sometimes ZH will run an article or quote an article from a moron just to give the commenters something to poop on.

Posted by: Zimriel at June 07, 2010 05:47 AM (9Sbz+)

93 I've always thought Bachelor Chow, as seen on Futurama, would be a good idea. Now with flavor!

Posted by: Monty at June 07, 2010 05:47 AM (4Pleu)

94 how is the vix today?
Posted by: curious at June 07, 2010 09:45 AM

Well my nose is clearing a little but I don't rub it all over my chest like mom did.

as far as you know

Posted by: jcjimi at June 07, 2010 05:48 AM (I7L+g)

95 How do the unemployed conduct a work stoppage?

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2010 05:48 AM (6Njk9)

96 How do the unemployed conduct a work stoppage? Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2010 09:48 AM

Ask a Greek

Posted by: jcjimi at June 07, 2010 05:49 AM (I7L+g)

97 Zim - so why is China stockpiling copper?

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2010 05:50 AM (6Njk9)

98 Jean 98: by setting up barracades (sp?) and stopping other people from getting to work, I'd reckon...

Posted by: Zimriel at June 07, 2010 05:50 AM (9Sbz+)

99
OT: But one of the "humanitarian" ships attempting to go to Gaza is called the ..... "Rachel Corrie".

Heh.

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at June 07, 2010 05:51 AM (JKe0g)

100 So, they stop other people from working.

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2010 05:51 AM (mtAmx)

101

Well my nose is clearing a little but I don't rub it all over my chest like mom did.

oh i remember those days. you mom was the best.

Posted by: Ben at June 07, 2010 05:51 AM (wuv1c)

102 no, not that "vicks"...this vix

Posted by: curious at June 07, 2010 05:51 AM (p302b)

103 Zim - so why is China stockpiling copper? Because it's cheap, comparatively. They're doing a lot of infrastructure work -- power plants, especially -- that use a lot of copper. But they'll warehouse it rather than using it right away. They can always dump the excess later if the price goes up, or use it at their leisure if the price stays down. The Chinese are also buying a lot of other commodities, gold in particular.

Posted by: Monty at June 07, 2010 05:52 AM (4Pleu)

104 no, not that "vicks"...this vix
Posted by: curious at June 07, 2010 09:51 AM

Yeah. Knew that. Check your URL.

Oh I meant "a Grecian" above. Not "a Greek".

Posted by: jcjimi at June 07, 2010 05:54 AM (I7L+g)

105 Jean #100, assuming the Chinese government isn't just being silly, then because they're establishing a strategic reserve in case shit meets fan in a big way.

Posted by: Zimriel at June 07, 2010 05:54 AM (9Sbz+)

106 "108 Jean #100, assuming the Chinese government isn't just being silly, then because they're establishing a strategic reserve in case shit meets fan in a big way.

Posted by: Zimriel at June 07, 2010 09:54 AM (9Sbz+)"

This is what worries me.  Last year they were stockpiling steel.

Posted by: curious at June 07, 2010 05:55 AM (p302b)

107 Zim - The gold comments in the article were sort of spurious. The charts showed that investing long in base commodities was a good idea; rather then in gold. Had nothing really to do with monetary policy.

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2010 05:55 AM (JaO+v)

108 and it's currently (0.25%)

Posted by: jcjimi at June 07, 2010 05:56 AM (I7L+g)

109

Zim - so why is China stockpiling copper?

Hu Jin Tao plans on making a tomb that puts Qin Shi Huangdi's tomb to shame.

It requires a lot of lighting and therefore tons of copper.

Posted by: Ben at June 07, 2010 05:57 AM (wuv1c)

110 They are either buying it in case SHTF or because nothing else makes sense right now - and the Chinese investor is inherently conservative (until somebody breaks out the poker chips and scotch).

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2010 05:57 AM (tTdaQ)

111 The United States prior to the Civil War was far more federalist than in the post-war years. Shelby Foote, in his commentary on Ken Burns' Civil War documentary, said something that always stuck with me: prior to that war, we always said "The United States are...". After the war, we said "The United States is...". We went from a collection of federalized states into a single nation, for good or ill.

Actually that started BEFORE the war which was the major cause of the South Seceding. When the South lost there was no reason for the Radical Republicans in the North to even make any bones about it. In fact, their spokesman in Congress told the Democrat leader on the floor of the House that it was the duty of the minority Party to sit down and shut up because the majority Party (Republicans) was going to rule the nation.

The "majority Party was the majority only at the point of the gun.

Along that same score there was a question on the book thread after I left:

Vic--name of that British civil war book?

Killer Angels hands down

Which is better...Catton or Foote? I'v read Catton but not Foote.

I have a link at post #53.

http://tinyurl.com/22kq9va

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2010 05:58 AM (6taRI)

112 Just put on CNBS.  That picture on the right of the oil spill seemingly gushing more today than ever before looks oddly like the burning top of the twin towers. 

Posted by: curious at June 07, 2010 05:58 AM (p302b)

113 Sarah Palin was at the Belmont Stakes this weekend, rumor has it.

Posted by: curious at June 07, 2010 06:00 AM (p302b)

114 Curious, truck rates may be soaring but that's like GDP going up. When you start from a lower base a small increase looks like a large per cent. The company I used to drive for until Jan. was getting as low as .70 cents per mile from East coast to Midwest in the last 2 years or so. With driver's wages .36 to .40 a mile, and fuel about .30 that barely covers the biggest expenses. 10% to 20% still doesn't get you anywhere near break even on backhauls because your outgoing rates have also been under pressure. Besides, my phone ain't rung yet.

Posted by: bigred at June 07, 2010 06:00 AM (WUwAu)

115

Just put on CNBS.  That picture on the right of the oil spill seemingly gushing more today than ever before looks oddly like the burning top of the twin towers.

i saw CNN a couple days back. They had the entire bottom right of the sceen devoted to a live shot of the oil spilling out.  They kept it their through all of their shows.  It was very distracting. a full 1/5 of the screen was taken up.They also had a gallon count, kind of like the debt clock, which is stupid because no on knows exactly the rate and volume of the oil leakage. So they essentially had a made up number.

 i haven't checked back in, but i am sure they stopped doing that as it is extremely stupid.

Posted by: Ben at June 07, 2010 06:01 AM (wuv1c)

116 Posted by: bigred at June 07, 2010 10:00 AM (WUwAu)

you should comment over there on that article.  Cause you just verified what I was thinking.

Posted by: curious at June 07, 2010 06:01 AM (p302b)

117 bigred, I have access to some weird datasets, one of which is North - South I95 data. Truck trips haven't been going up -- flat day-to-day, lower on weekends (Do you guys get weekend pay?), they have actually spread out on an daily time basis. Maybe the truckers don't fear the traffic as much?

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2010 06:11 AM (h0rZ/)

118

Wow, a lot of let-them-eat-cake comments from the pro-government-worker contingent at Business Insider. The apologetic for the public-sector having job security runs like: you had the choice to apply for a government job, you chose the private sector, you lost, suck it up and pay your taxes.

If I said what was on my mind reading this, I'm pretty sure I'd be banned from here and deserve it.

Shorter, self-censored version: the public sector and its defenders despise the rest of us, and they need a serious wake-up call.

Posted by: Zimriel at June 07, 2010 06:15 AM (9Sbz+)

119 Thank you all for your cheers on my new job.
I consider myself lucky, as I know there are still lots
without work.

Posted by: Mjim at June 07, 2010 06:15 AM (mMdWG)

120 (that was in response to curious #69)

Posted by: Zimriel at June 07, 2010 06:16 AM (9Sbz+)

121 69 the backlash against public sector workers -- whether fair or not --"


Oh it be fair alright.

Posted by: Barbarian at June 07, 2010 06:17 AM (EL+OC)

122 Sarah Palin was at the Belmont Stakes this weekend, rumor has it.

No rumor; she was looking quite boobalicious too.

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 07, 2010 06:17 AM (xOTwH)

123 Curious, thanks for the compliment. I've being playing this game for almost 40yrs. Plus my old man drove so I grew up in it. I worked the last 22 years on a dedicated basis until the customer moved out of state. But my kids are grown, house paid off, 59 andahalf so I put my 401k in an income fund and enjoying being a hermit for awhile. About 75 weeks left on funemployment so I can be picky on what I do next. 

Posted by: bigred at June 07, 2010 06:18 AM (WUwAu)

124 Comment from the Wired article tweeted by jaketapper: “Everywhere there’s a U.S. post, there’s a diplomatic scandal that will be revealed,” Manning wrote. “It’s open diplomacy. World-wide anarchy in CSV format. It’s Climategate with a global scope, and breathtaking depth. It’s beautiful, and horrifying.”" - in regards to a 290K file deep record of diplomatic cables that have been leaked. http://tinyurl.com/244dkn2

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2010 06:21 AM (OlnxK)

125 No rumor; she was looking quite boobalicious too.

Damn. Think i may need a few moments alone after that pic.

Posted by: koopy at June 07, 2010 06:25 AM (awinc)

126 No rumor; she was looking quite boobalicious too.

I don't care what anybody says, that IS teh hawt!

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2010 06:26 AM (6taRI)

127

. . . so why is China stockpiling copper?

It's a major component of Rearden metal.

Posted by: Ed Anger at June 07, 2010 06:31 AM (7+pP9)

128 Jean, in most companies it all pays the same, and if you get hung up on a weekend you sit there on your own time. One thing on I-95, thats a lot of fresh produce going from the South to major East Coast markets, NY. NJ, Boston. Produce doesn't have a set rate. Brokers put the loads out and pay based on the availablity of equipment. More trucks sitting in the area, less the load pays and the bigger cut the broker keeps. Same off the west coast. So you are going to have a certain minimum of traffic, but it doesn't mean it's paying alot.

Posted by: bigred at June 07, 2010 06:32 AM (WUwAu)

129 49 Whoever was saying that diets are expensive, do a sugar cleanse.

Thanks, curious.  You're right about cutting out (severely reducing) sugars and processed carbs as well -- those make a big difference.  Also reducing alcohol, sad to say.  We lost 40 (hubby) and 30 (me) pounds in Dec-Feb doing that.  It was still expensive, though, as we cannot will not live without animal protein so we had to go to more expensive cuts of meat and more fish.  Plus going to more fresh veggies and doing more cooking from scratch can add up. 

We had to exercise, though, to get our metabolisms going. 

Posted by: Y-not at June 07, 2010 06:36 AM (Kn9r7)

130

Here it comes, all that propping up overnight and 1st thing this morning is over, lost 7 pts in the last few minutes.

Hold on, kiddies.

Posted by: Dang Straights at June 07, 2010 06:40 AM (fx8sm)

131 Jean, you always fear traffic. It's the only way you make it this long in this business. Do you know what the deadliest job in this country is? Not cops, not firefighters, not miners. More truck drivers are killed on the job each year than any other profession. And in most truck-smaller vehicle accidents, the smaller vehicle is at fault. I know there are bad truck drivers out there and I've known some in my time, but a lot of them get weeded out before they do too much damage. And I've pulled a few weeds in my time.

Posted by: bigred at June 07, 2010 06:45 AM (WUwAu)

132 "130

. . . so why is China stockpiling copper?

It's a major component of Rearden metal.

Posted by: Ed Anger at June 07, 2010 10:31 AM (7+pP9)"

what is 'rearden metal" please?

Posted by: curious at June 07, 2010 06:51 AM (p302b)

133 what is 'rearden metal" please?

Ah curious you have to be kidding me. Read Ayn Rand

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2010 06:55 AM (6taRI)

134 Hey Red.  I see more and more foriegn born drivers and company owners flooding the business.  There are quite a few that cannot even speak english well enough to take directions into shipping and receiving locations.  I often wonder how these drivers got their CDLs.  These drivers and company owners also depress rates as they are willing to do loads at unimaginable rates. 

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 07, 2010 06:56 AM (yQWNf)

135 what is 'rearden metal" please? It's from Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged. Hank Rearden creates a fabulous new metal that is superior in every way to steel, the so-called "Rearden Metal".

Posted by: Monty at June 07, 2010 07:01 AM (4Pleu)

136 Truck monkey, heard that. I delivered to one of our customers last year. On the counter at the window in the guardshack were the yard rules written in Spanish. I pointed to the lower half of the paper and said"Russian?" The guard just rolled his eyes and said "Yeah".

Posted by: bigred at June 07, 2010 07:03 AM (WUwAu)

137 U.S. Intelligence Analyst Arrested in Wikileaks Video Probe ...

Why does an E-4 have access to so much information? http://j.mp/dzsOoR #wired ... http://tinyurl.com/244dkn2 /Persecute (prosecute) those truthtellers! ...

njuice.com/OLmSt-Intelligence-Analyst-Arreste... - 11 hours ago - Similar

U.S. Intelligence Analyst Arrested in Wikileaks Video Probe ...

RT @Dimitrijevic_66 US Intel Analyst Arrested in Wikileaks VideoProbe http:// tinyurl.com/244dkn2 /Persecute (prosecute) those truthtellers! ...

www.linksalpha.com/link?id=us-intelligence-an... - 12 hours ago - Similar

MacBlips - Twitter Reactions - U.S. Intelligence Analyst ...

Holy Crap the Wikileaks leaker stole 260000 in diplomatic cables and apparently sent it to Wikileaks? http://tinyurl.com/244dkn2 95 minutes

Jean is this link correct? i've never gotten a whole page before?

Posted by: willow at June 07, 2010 07:09 AM (HyUIR)

138

bigred, and the smaller vehicles being cause..

I have seen a dozen times at the least, smaller vehicles pull in front of  moving trucks, thinking they can accelerate fast enough or the truck can slow down enough quickly enough to accomodate them.

Posted by: willow at June 07, 2010 07:11 AM (HyUIR)

139 Why does an E-4 have access to so much information?

Rank really has nothing to do with it. I had a secret clearance as an E-3.

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2010 07:16 AM (6taRI)

140 All the time, willow. You haven't lived until some night you go around a curve on a hill east bound on an interstate and have a car flash by you west bound in the lane you just moved out of. I wouldn't have seen him til he was in my cab. The idiot had driven from Milwaukee to Madison (70 miles) and beyond with out realizing he was on the wrong side.

Posted by: bigred at June 07, 2010 07:21 AM (WUwAu)

141

But whatever you do, just don't buy your copper from D'Anconnia.

Trust me. Bad idea.

Posted by: Entropy at June 07, 2010 07:24 AM (IsLT6)

142

Also, don't date successful high-powered female business executives. Ever.

Posted by: Entropy at June 07, 2010 07:26 AM (IsLT6)

143 Why does an E-4 have access to so much information? -- Because he was computer savvy, most of the computer savvy guys are contractors by the time they would be up for E-6

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2010 07:26 AM (mtAmx)

144 Willow, yes -- link is good.

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2010 07:30 AM (h0rZ/)

145 129 No rumor; she was looking quite boobalicious too.

I don't care what anybody says, that IS teh hawt!

Palin looks incredible.  As I woman I can't be catty about her, she is fabulous.

Todd is rawrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.


Posted by: mpfs at June 07, 2010 07:32 AM (iYbLN)

146

 assuming the Chinese government isn't just being silly, then because they're establishing a strategic reserve in case shit meets fan in a big way.

They're probably building up their strategic reserve of empty buildings.

China's economy is a bubble. If they stop building, everything explodes.

Posted by: Entropy at June 07, 2010 07:32 AM (IsLT6)

147 True, Jean. Besides, someone has to do all that typing. You don't expect officers to, they're too busy being leaders of men.

Posted by: bigred at June 07, 2010 07:32 AM (WUwAu)

148

mpfs, when he passes away the undertaker will never get that sh!t-eating grin off his face.

Lucky SOB!!

Posted by: bigred at June 07, 2010 07:38 AM (WUwAu)

149

True that about rank having nothing to do with it -- my kids are jr. enlisted (well, one not anymore) but they have security clearance.  And thanks to both of them having better grammar, typing, foreign language, and computer skills than most -- they get to do stuff that would normally be above their rank and not in their MOS. (they also get to mow the lawns, drive buses, man the .50 and the SAW, and paint the humvees besides their actual job-jobs -- the military takes an holistic approach, lol).

 

Well, not matter if the apocalypse hits -- the weather has been lovely the last two days.  I'm planting more garden.

Posted by: unknown jane at June 07, 2010 07:55 AM (5/yRG)

150 Ah, just read through the comments: congratulations Mjim!

Posted by: unknown jane at June 07, 2010 08:00 AM (5/yRG)

151

"No rumor; she was looking quite boobalicious too."

 Wowza. Todd is one lucky bastard.

Posted by: Dirk Diggler at June 07, 2010 09:23 AM (jmf9+)

152 Brought to you by Purina Human Chow. Isn't that being marketed under the Soylent™ brand?

Posted by: Aristomenes at June 07, 2010 10:58 AM (t2f+y)

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