July 12, 2010
— DrewM Sure by the end of the year we won't be able to put anyone in space any more but we still lead the world in throwing people under the bus.
White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Monday that NASA Administrator Charles Bolden must have misspoke when he told Al Jazeera last month that one of his top priorities is to reach out to Muslim countries."That was not his task and that's not the task of NASA," Gibbs said.
Bolden, though, said last month in the interview that it was President Obama who gave him that task. He made a similar claim in February.
The White House also backed up Bolden last week when his remarks first stirred controversy. A White House spokesman last Tuesday said Obama wants NASA to engage with the world's best scientists and that to meet that challenge, NASA must "partner with countries around the world like Russia and Japan, as well as collaboration with Israel and with many Muslim-majority countries."
NASA last week walked back Bolden's claim that Muslim outreach was the "perhaps foremost" plank of his mission, saying that Bolden was merely talking about his "outreach" responsibilities and that space exploration is still NASA's No. 1 job.
As you can see, this isn't any old bus throwing. No, this one has a bit of John F. Kerry, I was for making NASA reach out to the Muslim world before I was against twist. Not everyone can pull that off.
I have a confession to make, I wouldn't mind if part of what NASA did was to inspire kids around the work (including Muslims) to value science and dream big. I'd much rather Muslim kids aspire to be great engineers and astronauts than spend all their time in school memorizing the Koran and becoming embittered against the west. We aren't going to kill them all, so using whatever leavers we have at our disposal to win a some hearts and minds is a good thing.
The best way to do that of course is by example and success. You know, do some really cool space stuff. Believe it or not, NASA actually used to do that back in the day. If you want to throw in the occasional conference and scholarship aimed at kids in Muslim nations, that's fine with me. The problem, as always, is the way the administration went about this. They tried to score cheap points by saying it was the most important thing. They came off as valuing style over substance and dressed arrogance up as compassion.
I wouldn't be surprised if Obama never said any such thing to Bolden (though I wouldn't be surprised if he did). The thing is, given the unprecedented level of stupidity and arrogance exhibited by this administration Bolden had every reason to believe this is the kind of thing Obama would want him to say even if he never actually was explicitly told to.
Now that it didn't work out with the public....it's under the bus for Administrator Bolden.
NASA story via Keep America Safe, funny picture via Slublog.
Maybe when Bolden is done at NASA, which maybe sooner than later, he can start working on a Muslim version of this.
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Posted by: Barry 'Buzz Aldrin' Obama at July 12, 2010 11:34 AM (FcR7P)
>> "White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Monday that NASA Administrator Charles Bolden must have misspoke when he told Al Jazeera last month that one of his top priorities is to reach out to Muslim countries."
Because when people make shit up off the top of their heads, that's what they come up with.
Posted by: FireHorse at July 12, 2010 11:35 AM (cQyWA)
Posted by: spineless fucking cowards local 101 at July 12, 2010 11:35 AM (w9bVp)
You do know they're all majoring in chemical engineering, right?
Actually, for the same reason that Obama went to law school.
Posted by: AmishDude at July 12, 2010 11:36 AM (T0NGe)
Obowma sends his stooge out to praise Islam, then runs over the guy when he does what he was asked to do. How cruel.
Going to make others think twice.
Posted by: bill-tb at July 12, 2010 11:37 AM (y+QfZ)
Must mean all the chakras are alive and flowing....
Drew, don't go all Ed Morrissey on us, please. I can't imagine anyone not wrapped in a straitjacket making the kinds of absurd statements Bolden did unless Osama Obama his own self sent down the order.
As for involving the Muslim world? Let 'em watch U.S. space launches on TV. That is all.
Posted by: MrScribbler at July 12, 2010 11:38 AM (Ulu3i)
I wouldn't mind if part of what NASA did was to inspire kids
It would be a lot easier to do that if you actually did some freakin' amazing things in space & stuff. Which NASA stopped doing in, oh, about 1986.
Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at July 12, 2010 11:38 AM (SCcgT)
But the public doesn't know - tree in forest, no harm no foul, move along.
Posted by: Reidemandweep at July 12, 2010 11:38 AM (/H8uK)
Posted by: t-bird at July 12, 2010 11:42 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Ella at July 12, 2010 11:42 AM (DmnMk)
And they will be supplied generously with a Tasco telescope for the completion of this task.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 12, 2010 11:43 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: I am my own bus and I'm so outta here at July 12, 2010 11:44 AM (/H8uK)
In a stunning move, NAACP to condemn New Black Panthers for racism:
Oh! Did I say New Black Panthers? I meant Tea Party naturally. My bet is that it was that “You gotta kill you some black babies,” comment.
Just a guess.
Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson almost certain to shake down some companies over this fiasco!
It's either that or they are gonna have to find themselves an actual church somewhere... you know... to do some of that reverending stuff from.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 12, 2010 11:45 AM (RkRxq)
Posted by: Obama at July 12, 2010 11:46 AM (xxgag)
Posted by: maddogg at July 12, 2010 11:46 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Obama at July 12, 2010 11:47 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Charles "Mel Armstrong" Bolden at July 12, 2010 11:47 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: 48%er at July 12, 2010 11:48 AM (OThQg)
Fuck him.
He's from SC, think they found out he's Alvin's brother brother.
Posted by: Kemp at July 12, 2010 11:50 AM (2+9Yx)
Posted by: dfbaskwill at July 12, 2010 11:50 AM (usjNq)
Posted by: Usful Ijit at July 12, 2010 11:50 AM (M/psB)
Never heard of 'em.
Small wonder. They'll never go. They've heard too much about those
PIIIIIGS...INNNNN...SPAAAAACE
Posted by: AmishDude at July 12, 2010 11:50 AM (T0NGe)
I would take that deal.
Posted by: alexthechick at July 12, 2010 11:51 AM (ctFPm)
Posted by: Charles Bolden, Clarifying and Extending His Original Remarks at July 12, 2010 11:51 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: The Bus at July 12, 2010 11:51 AM (JSghx)
Posted by: Suburban Scarecrow at July 12, 2010 11:52 AM (iDeWI)
Politics & business operate on (seemingly) shared ideals & agreements, then stabbing people in the back after they lose their value. This is really no different.
Besides, Obama has thrown how many people [in his Administration] under the bus now?
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby, cynic at July 12, 2010 11:52 AM (/h097)
Posted by: Charles Bolden, Clarifying and Extending His Original Remarks at July 12, 2010 11:52 AM (QKKT0)
And while Obama is killing NASA (that effectively researches for our military), the Brits have produced Taranis, their autonomous stealthy Unmanned Combat Air Vehicle (UCAV) "capable of precisely striking targets at long range, even in another continent."
Posted by: maverick muse at July 12, 2010 11:54 AM (H+LJc)
After learning this factoid from the Gibbster, it's quite apparent Charles Bolden is a misspeaking dumb ass. Throw this bastard under the Space Shuttle Mover.
Posted by: Fish at July 12, 2010 11:54 AM (v1gw3)
Posted by: Charles Bolden, Clarifying and Extending His Original Remarks at July 12, 2010 11:54 AM (QKKT0)
4 Arabs have not been allowed to have a single original idea since 714 CE.
Well... in 715 or so my glorious armies were at the forefront of testing the Greek Fire.
Posted by: Caliph Sulayman at July 12, 2010 11:55 AM (9Sbz+)
That sounds like a bit of a Reverending Story.
Sorry.
Posted by: Guy of Gisbourne at July 12, 2010 11:56 AM (hA3Vp)
Posted by: Charles Bolden, Clarifying and Extending His Original Remarks at July 12, 2010 11:56 AM (QKKT0)
Oh yeah... GREAT IDEA! Lets teach all the Muslim countrys how to build Big Gaint Rockets! Lets HELP them get that technology! Lets make it so they can put large Nuclear peaceful payloads into orbit!
/channels Bill Murray
Yea... great Idea... I'm excited about this plan!
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 12, 2010 11:57 AM (H+oXM)
You know what I think? NASA is a lot like Barry. From day-to-day they focus laser-like on stuff. It's just that, since whatever it is they are focusing laser-like on can be whatever "hot" item they think it is that people want them to focus laser-like on, if they don't get the "We're focusing laser-like on this today," email, they may blow it when they pick an item to focus laser-like on and it happens to be the wrong thing!
Focusing laser-like is hard!
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 12, 2010 11:58 AM (RkRxq)
Scientists profess that the determining factor is based on belly button positioning. Blacks run faster, but whites swim faster.
Posted by: maverick muse at July 12, 2010 11:58 AM (H+LJc)
Since the zero?
Posted by: maverick muse at July 12, 2010 12:00 PM (H+LJc)
Among all the societal upheavals and gloom and doom, it is good to know that some things are not going to change anytime soon!
By that I mean: Jean-Francoise Kerry is the absolute gold standard for fatuous lying douchebags.
Barky is taking a run at him to be sure, but how is Barky ever going to top the hurl-inducing "Reporting for Duty" salutes that were to remind of his 90-day combat career, 3 band-aid-level purple hearts, and years of traitorously slandering of our men and women in uniform? The dude is a role model for every Democrat ideal, and whilel many of them are obviously studying his techniques, I am confident that none will ever equal it.
Caution: the man is just such a colossal fucking piece of shit that the fabric of space-time could be rent asunder if he ever said anything genuine!
Posted by: sherlock at July 12, 2010 12:00 PM (ZrS0c)
Scientists profess that the determining factor is based on belly button positioning.
It's all about the center of gravity, ya know.
Posted by: ErikW at July 12, 2010 12:02 PM (NU7dt)
There is a persistent rumor in the Muslim world that Neal Armstrong was told by Allah to get the hell off the moon. So he flew home and converted. Good luck with that outreach!
http://tinyurl.com/28kdysq
Posted by: spongeworthy at July 12, 2010 12:03 PM (rplL3)
Oh brother. They do both.
Posted by: wHodat at July 12, 2010 12:04 PM (+sBB4)
Posted by: Somali Space Shaheeds at July 12, 2010 12:04 PM (VXBR1)
I knew Suitcase William, I think he was my daddy, but I am not sure, no one really knows. Everyone was over at "mommas".
Hey, think I'll make the news tonight? I got my fat ass down in SC for the 50 anniversary of something I did in college while smoking dope.
WTF, Sit in a drug store?
Oh, yeah, dat's where the drugs are.
Posted by: Jesse Jackson at July 12, 2010 12:06 PM (2+9Yx)
Posted by: Dr. Spank at July 12, 2010 12:06 PM (xO+6C)
Style over substance has been the hallmark of this administration since Day One.
Posted by: GarandFan at July 12, 2010 12:06 PM (6mwMs)
Posted by: Suburban Scarecrow at July 12, 2010 03:52 PM (iDeWI)
No, leverage.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow at July 12, 2010 12:07 PM (Q1lie)
Posted by: joncelli at July 12, 2010 12:08 PM (RD7QR)
Since the zero?
Posted by: maverick muse at July 12, 2010 04:00 PM (H+LJc)
No, the "O" was a more recent Moslem Idea..
Posted by: Right Wing Conspiracy Guy at July 12, 2010 12:08 PM (H+oXM)
Charles Bolden must have misspoke when he told Al Jazeera last month that one of his top priorities is to reach out to Muslim countries.
"That was not his task and that's not the task of NASA," Gibbs said.
Gibbs better be careful or Eric Holder will start an investigation on him
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 12, 2010 12:08 PM (1Jaio)
"That was not his task and that's not the task of NASA," Gibbs said.
Bolden, though, said last month in the interview that it was President Obama who gave him that task. He made a similar claim in February.
Gee funny thing, when a story like this gets reported by the MFM and gets a little traction, Barry has to throw someone under the bus. With all the people cowering under there, he's going to need some bigger tires.
Posted by: runningrn at July 12, 2010 12:09 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: Dr. Spank at July 12, 2010 04:06 PM (xO+6C)
Oh, I don't know about that...
Posted by: Dr. Strangelove, or how I learned to love the Bomb at July 12, 2010 12:09 PM (H+oXM)
Posted by: Caliphate at July 12, 2010 12:10 PM (+sBB4)
Posted by: rdbrewer at July 12, 2010 12:10 PM (5LT3M)
Charlie Bolden is one swell guy. Stand up Charlie, let 'um see you. Yea, go ahead Charlie, let's make a big fucking deal outta this public appearance.
Posted by: Joe "Bite Me" Biden at July 12, 2010 12:11 PM (v1gw3)
Posted by: moi at July 12, 2010 12:12 PM (bjYAr)
Posted by: Joe Biden at July 12, 2010 12:13 PM (ATu6O)
We also won't extradite the gold teeth the nazis ripped out of the mouths of their victims. Sieg Heil!
Posted by: The "Neutral" Country of Switzerland at July 12, 2010 12:15 PM (FkKjr)
Posted by: Monkeytoe at July 12, 2010 12:15 PM (sOx93)
Gee funny thing, when a story like this gets reported by the MFM and gets a little traction, Barry has to throw someone under the bus. With all the people cowering under there, he's going to need some bigger tires.
We're gonna need a bigger bus
Posted by: Chief Brody at July 12, 2010 12:16 PM (QY7/i)
The guy takes orders, Gibbs is lying sack of shit. Obama told him to say what he said.
This disloyalty is going to cost these fuckers, God willing.
From Wiki:
A 1968 graduate of the United States Naval Academy, he became a Marine Aviator and test pilot. After his service as an astronaut, he became Deputy Commandant of Midshipmen at the Naval Academy.
Also a major general, which could mean nothing except his is BLACK.
So he was up there with Suitcase Williams
Posted by: Kemp at July 12, 2010 12:16 PM (2+9Yx)
Grade
A
Snark.
Both thumbs up.
Posted by: shibumi at July 12, 2010 12:16 PM (OKZrE)
Posted by: Maxine Waters at July 12, 2010 12:16 PM (VXBR1)
The only thing too big to fit under the Obamabus tires? Obama's ego.
Posted by: jimmuy at July 12, 2010 12:16 PM (66ScL)
I think I realize what Barry had in mind for NASA. He was going to tell Muslims that their real enemy is infact space junk orbiting around out there bumping into all of the Muslim spy satellites, that tell them who all of the adulterous women are, thus keeping them from stoning to death all of the women who obviously deserve it.
He could then encourage all of the suicide bombers to make oneway trips into space to blow up space debris.
Two birds - one stone.
That Barry is wicked smart.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 12, 2010 12:16 PM (RkRxq)
Instead of giving them our rocket technology, how about some nice midnight basketball, or condoms?
Posted by: Beagle at July 12, 2010 12:17 PM (sOtz/)
I certainly would be surprised if Bolden was making that up. Who would ever think to do such a thing? Even among the retards in this junta? No. This administration is run, strictly, from the top. That's what they're all about. They want that for the US (with the feral government controlling everything) and that is how their own organizations are structured.
And, in any event, if Bolden did make this up, then that shows how incredibly retarded he is and calls into question the competence (as if their total ineptitude were nto already well known to anyone with a brain) of those who would choose such an idiot and allow him into that position.
Posted by: Semantics R Us at July 12, 2010 12:19 PM (Qp4DT)
The scandalÂ’s not the scandal. ItÂ’s the person who uncovers the scandal thatÂ’s the scandalÂ…
roughly half of the time, anyway.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 12, 2010 12:19 PM (RkRxq)
First Lady Michelle Obama brought renewed energy to the NAACP today, delivering the keynote speech at the annual convention one day before the nation's largest civil rights group is expected to condemn what it calls racist elements in the Tea Party movement.
Posted by: The Bus at July 12, 2010 12:21 PM (JSghx)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 12, 2010 12:21 PM (ATu6O)
I still think that all this Muzzie anger towards us is the fault of Ray Stevens.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 12, 2010 12:22 PM (i3AsK)
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 12, 2010 12:22 PM (Qp4DT)
Unprecedented! And not in a good way.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 12, 2010 12:22 PM (ATu6O)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 12, 2010 12:22 PM (0q2P7)
Hey, I'm right here!
Posted by: Rahm Emanuel at July 12, 2010 12:24 PM (ATu6O)
Oh so we officially exist now?
But we're racist of course.
Or we dislike BHO's middle name.
And probably ought to be thanking him for reducing our tax burden,
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 12, 2010 12:24 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Ahmadildoblob at July 12, 2010 12:24 PM (VXBR1)
Posted by: KG at July 12, 2010 12:25 PM (S8TF5)
I still think that all this Muzzie anger towards us is the fault of Ray Stevens.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 12, 2010 04:22 PM (i3AsK)
That and all you guy's bacon recipes. Everything was ok until the bacon daiquirs. You guys have no self control!
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 12, 2010 12:26 PM (RkRxq)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at July 12, 2010 04:24 PM (JSghx)
The poor man's solution is to use a different kind of browser for the socks ... but that's a bit of a hassle.
I feel your pain, though.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 12, 2010 12:26 PM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: Bob Denver, Far Out Space Nut at July 12, 2010 12:28 PM (yQWNf)
Posted by: Charlie Bolden at July 12, 2010 12:28 PM (GwPRU)
We are tired of being waterboarded with high unemployment, high bankruptcy, and high foreclosure rates.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at July 12, 2010 12:28 PM (JSghx)
Posted by: Maxine Waters at July 12, 2010 12:28 PM (VXBR1)
---
Just like the local submarine club. There were races and events during all of last week. You must have missed it.
Posted by: fb at July 12, 2010 12:29 PM (G60Nl)
Posted by: denny crane at July 12, 2010 04:28 PM (I+7Zv)
That's truly scary.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 12, 2010 12:29 PM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: denny crane at July 12, 2010 12:31 PM (I+7Zv)
Posted by: denny crane at July 12, 2010 04:31 PM (I+7Zv)
What was he doing on Al Jezeera?
Why did The Precedent give his first TV interview to Al Arabiya?
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 12, 2010 12:33 PM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: John Galt at July 12, 2010 12:34 PM (F/4zf)
Because he wanted to placate the Middle East. How'd that work out for him?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 12, 2010 12:35 PM (ATu6O)
Posted by: denny crane at July 12, 2010 04:31 PM (I+7Zv)
Sure, there's a chance ... except that you can watch the friggin' video for yourself!
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 12, 2010 12:36 PM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: Comanche Voter at July 12, 2010 12:36 PM (ktYjH)
We black people got it goin' on. What wit Obama, Bolden. and da other black folk in power, soon all us be on da mailin' list for the Obama stash.
Posted by: Snoop Dog at July 12, 2010 12:36 PM (v1gw3)
Posted by: Cheri at July 12, 2010 12:38 PM (G+Wff)
Posted by: ChicagoJedi at July 12, 2010 12:40 PM (WZFkG)
Posted by: ziptie at July 12, 2010 12:40 PM (0135J)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 12, 2010 12:41 PM (yQWNf)
You guys have no self control!
Uh, yeah, sorry about that. Now we just need to figure out a way to dip the Shuttle in bacon grease.
If we can put a man on the moon...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 12, 2010 12:42 PM (i3AsK)
Question: If we send up 7 or so Muslims on a Shuttle, is Houston responsible for the daily calls to prayer? I already figured that they can kneel on prayer rugs that are velcroed to the bulkhead but how does one face East in space?
Posted by: ErikW at July 12, 2010 12:43 PM (NU7dt)
Posted by: Darth Randall at July 12, 2010 12:45 PM (oLULt)
Posted by: Marion Barry at July 12, 2010 12:46 PM (VXBR1)
Posted by: Truman North at July 12, 2010 12:46 PM (e8YaH)
If I go into space on a planned eight day mission, do I have to shave my body every day, or just on the day of the attack?
Posted by: Achmed the Terrorist at July 12, 2010 12:48 PM (v1gw3)
Posted by: Cheri at July 12, 2010 04:38 PM (G+Wff)
Many thanks. Care to join my other two readers?
BTW, I'm just one moron amongst many. Ace taught me everything I know.
Not everything he knows, mind you...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 12, 2010 12:48 PM (i3AsK)
Posted by: ErikW at July 12, 2010 04:43 PM (NU7dt)
And prayers 5 times per "day", with a day clocking in at around 92 minutes on the International Space Station ... means that muzzies will have to be kissing the floor once every 18 minutes. That should be interesting. They're lucky that Mohammed was such a great haggler and was able to bargain allah down from the 35 or 36 times that he initially demanded.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 12, 2010 12:48 PM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: Ahmed the Enlightened at July 12, 2010 12:50 PM (VXBR1)
Bolden should be fired for incompetence right away.
Not because he pitched that Muslim outreach crapolla (which I find entirely believable that Ogabe would have directed him to do), rather because he clearly accepted it as an unofficial verbal order of some sort without demanding an official written CYA memo to that effect that would be archived for posterity.
A NASA director that doesn't know how to formally cover his ass when ordered to do something obviously sketchy/flaky, is a dangerously naive fool.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at July 12, 2010 12:50 PM (UbfCx)
Will the diapers and fan belts worn by Muslim's float free in space due to zero gravity, or will they be allowed to duct tape their heads?
Posted by: Fish at July 12, 2010 12:51 PM (v1gw3)
Posted by: FORGER - Racist Czar at July 12, 2010 12:52 PM (E5Pqe)
What's really disturbing about Major General Charles Belton is the length of time it took for Obama and his minions to corrupt this man. To remain in the job tells you everything you need to know about his character. If someone like Gibbs challenged your veracity and truthfulness, would you continue in the job?
For me, it would be a public ass kicking and a resignation with prejudice.
Posted by: Fish at July 12, 2010 12:55 PM (v1gw3)
Posted by: ed at July 12, 2010 12:56 PM (Urhve)
Posted by: Lace Whig at July 12, 2010 12:57 PM (+OP3J)
Maybe...after tuning him up with a baseball bat.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at July 12, 2010 12:57 PM (UbfCx)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2010 12:58 PM (5jbD3)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 12, 2010 12:59 PM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: Jean at July 12, 2010 01:00 PM (CPefM)
Arabs have not been allowed to have a single original idea since 714 CE.
Yeah, just go ahead and ignore Paula Abdul.
Posted by: Charles Bolden, Clarifying and Extending His Original Remarks at July 12, 2010 01:00 PM (QKKT0)
The resolution, scheduled for a vote as early as Tuesday by delegates attending the annual NAACP convention in Kansas City, calls upon “all people of good will to repudiate the racism of the Tea Parties, and to stand in opposition to its drive to push our country back to the pre-civil rights era.”
Pre-civil rights era? I can't believed they contained themselves and didn't go all the way back to slavery.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at July 12, 2010 01:04 PM (JSghx)
Posted by: ontherocks at July 12, 2010 01:04 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: Lace Whig at July 12, 2010 04:57 PM (+OP3J)
As far as I know, the only difference between BC/AD and BCE/CE is that the latter is used by PC secular douchebags who feel icky being around normal people and have to invent a cocoon in which they feel comfy.
As far as I know.
Posted by: ErikW at July 12, 2010 01:05 PM (NU7dt)
Posted by: Adam "Ace" Smith at July 12, 2010 01:05 PM (/H8uK)
Because Academia has a special hate for the old Church despite.
A. The old Church saved and duplicated most of the classic writings of older civilizations that are available today.
B. Are the origin of academic regalia, due to academic study being confined to monasteries, the two being virtually the same institution in the middle ages.
C. The Catholic Church was responsible for the calendar of the modern world.
In their mind Academia has grown up, has risen, and is ready to strike down their old master and replace it as the focus of worship; But first they need to get rid of any references to that troublesome God and Savior.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 12, 2010 01:07 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: ErikW at July 12, 2010 01:09 PM (NU7dt)
Unprecedented! And not in a good way.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp
If this doesn't cause a Pot - Kettle Black Hole of irony, I don't know what will...
Posted by: FORGER - Racist Czar at July 12, 2010 01:12 PM (E5Pqe)
Arabs have not been allowed to have a single original idea since 714 CE.
Yeah, just go ahead and ignore Paula Abdul.
Posted by: Charles Bolden, Clarifying and Extending His Original Remarks
at July 12, 2010 05:00 PM (QKKT0)
She's Jewish.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 12, 2010 01:12 PM (Qp4DT)
As far as I know, the only difference between BC/AD and BCE/CE is that the latter is used by PC secular douchebags who feel icky being around normal people and have to invent a cocoon in which they feel comfy.
As far as I know.
Posted by: ErikW at July 12, 2010 05:05 PM (NU7dt)
BCE/CE is an old Jewish thing that was picked up by the secular pseudo-intellectuals much later.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 12, 2010 01:14 PM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: Jeff at July 12, 2010 01:15 PM (A3tpD)
Posted by: maddogg at July 12, 2010 01:16 PM (OlN4e)
Anybody know where I can buy a nice replica watch?
I really, really want one! Not a pseudo-gold Rolex - I want a rose gold IWC!
Posted by: Whitehall at July 12, 2010 01:18 PM (FmPSC)
BCE/CE is an old Jewish thing that was picked up by the secular pseudo-intellectuals much later.
Huh. I hereby revise and update my knowledge. Was there a Jewish / Christian schism that was responsible for the difference or just one of those things?
Posted by: ErikW at July 12, 2010 01:20 PM (NU7dt)
Posted by: Abdulla Oblongata at July 12, 2010 01:20 PM (JSghx)
Posted by: Malaysia's National Fatwa Council at July 12, 2010 01:21 PM (w9bVp)
http://tinyurl.com/cuxs92
Posted by: wiserbud at July 12, 2010 01:21 PM (EW49d)
calls upon “all people of good will to repudiate the racism of the Tea Parties, and to stand in opposition to its drive to push our country back to the pre-civil rights era.”
Those people are some sick asswipes. Other than calling it a damn lie, I don't know how to respond.
Posted by: Ronster at July 12, 2010 01:21 PM (nnNfA)
The resolution, scheduled for a vote as early as Tuesday by delegates attending the annual NAACP convention in Kansas City, calls upon “all people of good will to repudiate the racism of the Tea Parties, and to stand in opposition to its drive to push our country back to the pre-civil rights era.”
The liberals are rightly scared of the Tea Party and its supporters. They will throw race and everything else that they can conjure up to try and discredit and remove the threat. Don't back down.
Posted by: Cheri at July 12, 2010 01:24 PM (G+Wff)
BTW Michelle, if somebody yelled "haul ass" you'd have to make 3 trips.
I bet she has to downshift to get up a 5o grade.
Posted by: ErikW at July 12, 2010 01:24 PM (NU7dt)
Going to make others think twice.
About saying what they were told to say, yes. Expect a lot of "No comment" answers from now on, while their agenda goes forward. "Teach Muslim kids how best to kill infidels? Sorry, can't comment on that."
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 12, 2010 01:24 PM (eNxMU)
Posted by: dr kill at July 12, 2010 01:25 PM (w9bVp)
Yeah but what direction do you face if Mecca is beneath you?
In space, no one can hear you scream "Allahu akbar."
Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 12, 2010 01:28 PM (3fiIy)
And maybe in 6000 years it will catch up the maturity level of Judaism.
What, where practically none of the adherents believe any more?
I'm just bitter that American Jews still vote for the most anti-Semitic party in modern political history.
Posted by: s'moron at July 12, 2010 01:32 PM (UaxA0)
“all people of good will to repudiate the racism of the Tea Parties, and to stand in opposition to its drive to push our country back to the pre-civil rights era.”
This is fucking outrageous.
Posted by: Dang Straights at July 12, 2010 01:33 PM (fx8sm)
Islamic philosophy needs to have a serious discussion about predestination vs free will, and how both can exist at the same time at the same place. The fatalistic "Alla wills it" attitude acts like a boat anchor on their progress.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 12, 2010 01:34 PM (0q2P7)
Huh. I hereby revise and update my
knowledge. Was there a Jewish / Christian schism that was responsible
for the difference or just one of those things?
Posted by: ErikW at July 12, 2010 05:20 PM (NU7dt)
I don't know, but I learned it in Hebrew School, many years ago. Back then, no one but Jews used it, and not very much in public.
In Israel, they still call it "The Christian Calendar" and Jan 1st New Year's is pretty much of a non-event (though that has been changing in the last decade or two).
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 12, 2010 01:37 PM (Qp4DT)
Their troll-fu is strong. Now if we could just have some sort effective response against the NAACP, I know, Excoriating response from the RNC Chairman in 385,613,756,123 ... 385,613,756,122 ... 385,613,756,121
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 12, 2010 01:40 PM (0q2P7)
That whole Jan 1 thing, as with most of the calendar, yeah that's Roman and predates Christ, though not Rome's occupation of Israel.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 12, 2010 01:44 PM (0q2P7)
Islamic philosophy needs to have a serious discussion about predestination vs free will, and how both can exist at the same time at the same place. The fatalistic "Alla wills it" attitude acts like a boat anchor on their progress.
Seems to me that the time has come and gone.
Whether it's that I'm getting older and learning more or that religious violence is increasing, I'm not sure. What I do know is that I am rapidy running out of patience for a religion that we're all supposed to love and accept while all they want to do is kill us.
I know, this has been said ad infinitum but I'm just tired of these ass backward fucking animals ruining the party.
Posted by: ErikW at July 12, 2010 01:44 PM (NU7dt)
With all due respect - really, I do respect you - I think this is incredibly naive.
The way Islam is structured, with its patriarchical society, good little Muslim boys and adult Muslim men have plenty of time to do both - pursue their careers and their fanatical devotion to blowing up the West - while their dutiful wives and mothers coddle them and support them at home.
In my experience with foreign nationals studying/working in science, technology, and engineering in U.S. universities, they change very little in terms of their philosophical bent by being here. The Communist Chinese students remain very different than the students from Taiwan, the Indians retain their identity, as do the Muslims. Having access to the benefits of a Western country does not mean that they will adopt a Western view of things.
I would much prefer the Islamists throw rocks and molotov cocktails at us - or even rely on stolen or ill-gotten weapons - than to see them equipped with the ability to design and manufacture their own high-tech weapons.
If you want to change Islam through education, then educate the female students, empower them, and maybe they can turn their men around (but I doubt it).
Posted by: Y-not at July 12, 2010 01:48 PM (O627A)
Posted by: Jugears Asshole Hussein - Teh iWon at July 12, 2010 01:49 PM (E5Pqe)
178 Shehag cannot help herself can she?
Whose fault is it that some minorities are in the perpetual spiral of doom? Sure as hell isn't my fault. A little self reflection on their part might not hurt.
Posted by: Ronster at July 12, 2010 01:49 PM (nnNfA)
But, here, we have one of the first contributions of islam, in that Mohammed commanded that muslims must go back to the primitive, strictly lunar calendar (which drifts aimlessly through the solar years) and Mo even put an exclamation point on it by declaring that the addition of any intercalaries was a capital offense in islamic "law".
Just some islamic calendar trivia explaining why that ideology is so backward and primitive and will never be able to coexist peacefully in close proximity to any developed society.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 12, 2010 01:51 PM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 12, 2010 01:52 PM (PQY7w)
EXACTLY. Except if I were the NASA administrator, my resignation would have been on Toonces' desk before he finished getting the words "...to Muslim nations" out of his mouth.
Because this is a personal, gut-level blow. American blood has been shed to purchase our foothold in space, and THIS is what the douchbag wants to do with that heritage? I'm sitting here trying to think of something worse, and seriously, I can't, unless it's putting suicide bombers on the pad so as to grant them better firepower.
Barry has finally fucked with the wrong program. You have conservatives who hate the idea of the government funding space exploration, and you have commie libs who would rather see the money poured down the destructive toilet of social programs, but the great middle, even if not totally interested in space, still go "Hey, neat" over spaceflight in general. The image of Buzz Aldrin saluting the flag has become synonymous with American exceptionalism, and Barry tried to unplug that and re-socket it into an enemy nation's wall. He fucked with Americana and this dipshit Bolden has paid the price--but now, without any honor whatsoever.
Posted by: Filly at July 12, 2010 01:54 PM (6ab9q)
So far as I can tell, he'll have Sean Hannity's groveling endorsement. After all, he's a "great American."
Are we forever doomed to have either racist, incompetent, American-hating traitors or worthless friggin' has-beens in the White House?
Posted by: MrScribbler at July 12, 2010 01:54 PM (Ulu3i)
Let us be clear. Really poor Muslim men spend all their time figuring out how to get something to eat to survive. They are not a threat.
It is Muslim men who reach middle class or higher affluence, Engineer Mohammed Atta, Osama bin Laden, son of a billionaire, Crotch bomber AbdulMutallab, son of a Nigerian billionaire, that are threats, to travel to the West, and kill Westerners.
If anything, non-Muslims would be secure if Muslims were as poor as they were say, in 1928. You don't see Muslims from Niger, or Chad, or Mauritania, traveling to the West to blow people up. They just can't afford it (and have no knowledge or interest of the West, which remains at most a vague rumor to them).
No, making everyone better off DOES NOT create harmony. Quite the reverse, its like a tribe that gets a casino or Usual Suspects. The cut goes further when there's less people taking the cut. Moreover, more money means more resources for the worst rather than better part of human nature to take hold.
Posted by: whiskey at July 12, 2010 01:56 PM (t3UKO)
And if you needed any further proof that the civil rights establishment is stuck in the 60's, well, there you have it. Because if racism stopped being a problem, then these groups would have no reason for existence.
Still, I wonder how much influence this group has with regular black Americans vs. how much influence it has over businesses and government.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at July 12, 2010 01:57 PM (MwPPi)
The Jewish calendar was lunar-based, but adjusted for the solar year with a leap month (as many of the calendars had progressed, naturally, as a growing modern civilization was agrarian and had more of a connection to the sun than the moon - which is more important to desert types).
Which would explain why any given Muslim country is NOT a major contributor to the world's food supplies.
I wonder if Ramadan wandering along the calender through the years caused any sort of starvation problems.
Posted by: ErikW at July 12, 2010 01:58 PM (NU7dt)
I have lost count of the number of stories which are clear indicators of this administration's incompetence.
Posted by: Filly at July 12, 2010 01:59 PM (6ab9q)
We're gonna need a bigger web page.
Posted by: Chief Martin "Drudge" Brody at July 12, 2010 02:07 PM (Qp4DT)
The financial regulations package recently passed by the House of Representatives would create a new diversity overseer at each of the major federal financial regulatory agencies, including the new ones created by the legislation itself.
Well, maybe not....
This new office, called the Office of Minority and Women Inclusion, would take over from any existing diversity or civil rights office already working at the agencies in question.
But at least it will be administered equally across the board...
However, each individual diversity czar is responsible for defining exactly how many minorities, women, and minority- and women-owned businesses are satisfactory.
Nope, you're screwed.Posted by: Guy Fawkes at July 12, 2010 02:07 PM (JSghx)
Posted by: mr Pink at July 12, 2010 02:09 PM (pxyXV)
I invite you take a sec and look at the headlines of Drudge for a sec. Just scan 'em.
I see that Michelle is looking rather hideous. I don't know who the photogs are but somebody needs to tell them that you NEVER shoot someone from below.
It enhances their nostrils, frown lines and in Michelle's case, mouth full of shark teeth.
Gah!
Posted by: ErikW at July 12, 2010 02:09 PM (NU7dt)
I don't know who the photogs are but somebody needs to tell them that you NEVER shoot someone from below.
I really don't think the angle of the camera has anything to do with that, she is just a hideous creature.
Posted by: Dang Straights at July 12, 2010 02:10 PM (fx8sm)
Yeah, let's bring in the guy who not only did such an awesome job botching the Contract with America and is completely untrustworthy on most conservative issues, he's also led a morally disgusting personal life ! Yay!
The GOP: Just When You Thought We Couldn't Do Worse Than McCain TM
Posted by: Filly at July 12, 2010 02:15 PM (6ab9q)
Posted by: Mara Liasson at July 12, 2010 02:15 PM (Qp4DT)
Amen. We're going to screw this up. I just know it. As Ann Coulter said, let's not plan the victory parties until after November 7.
Posted by: AlGore at July 12, 2010 02:17 PM (y4B2y)
When the last time you were relevant was 16 years ago, it might just be time to step aside and let someone else have a chance.
Posted by: Ombudsman at July 12, 2010 02:18 PM (y4B2y)
The photographer was kind enough not to claim a camel toe. It would not have been a toe, but a gaping fissure of unsightly meat surrounded by very matted and stinky scorpion hair and pustules of odoriferous secretions.
Posted by: Fish at July 12, 2010 02:19 PM (v1gw3)
Posted by: Passenger on the bus at July 12, 2010 02:19 PM (M4l/6)
Posted by: t-bird at July 12, 2010 02:21 PM (FcR7P)
ABC News says that fat, over-the-hill, irrelevant RINO squish Gingrich is thinking about running for president.
Posted by: Ombudsman at July 12, 2010 06:18 PM (y4B2y)
Bob Dole says it's Newt's turn.
Posted by: Bob Dole at July 12, 2010 02:21 PM (v1gw3)
Posted by: dr kill at July 12, 2010 02:22 PM (w9bVp)
Thanks alot Fish.
Posted by: Ronster at July 12, 2010 06:20 PM (nnNfA)
Are you nauseous? Take a swig of Pepto and call me in the morning.
Dr. Fish
Posted by: Fish at July 12, 2010 02:23 PM (v1gw3)
It enhances their nostrils, frown lines and in Michelle's case, mouth full of shark teeth.
Gah!
Posted by: ErikW at July 12, 2010 06:09 PM (NU7dt)
But, but, she's so beautiful!
Posted by: The MFM at July 12, 2010 02:24 PM (YVZlY)
Posted by: Dang Straights at July 12, 2010 06:10 PM (fx8sm)
Michelle is the loveliest and most gracious human female to ever grace the halls of the White House. And those arms of hers are just to die for!!!!
Posted by: The Editors of Vogue at July 12, 2010 02:26 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: dr kill at July 12, 2010 02:27 PM (w9bVp)
Take a swig of Pepto and call me in the morning.
Too damn late.
Posted by: Ronster at July 12, 2010 06:26 PM (nnNfA)
Alternate treatment: Stick your finger down Dang Straights throat and you'll feel a lot better.
Dr. Fish
Posted by: Fish at July 12, 2010 02:29 PM (v1gw3)
Posted by: Fish
Goddammit, Man!!
I have sorted thru brain tissue for shotgun pellets with my bare hands and ate a Sloppy Joe sammich for dinner at the St. Louis Co. Morgue afterward, but HOLY FUCK, that made me gag.....
Posted by: FORGER - Racist Czar at July 12, 2010 02:29 PM (E5Pqe)
Posted by: logprof at July 12, 2010 02:29 PM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: Cicero at July 12, 2010 02:30 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Holy Shit, really holy fucking shit at July 12, 2010 02:31 PM (Gr1V1)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2010 02:31 PM (5jbD3)
Posted by: logprof at July 12, 2010 06:29 PM (BP6Z1)
Space is no place for those bubble-headed boobies.
Posted by: Dr. Smith at July 12, 2010 02:33 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: logprof at July 12, 2010 06:29 PM (BP6Z1)
I completely agree with you, Dave. Just a minute. Just a minute.
Posted by: HAL 9000 at July 12, 2010 02:34 PM (QKKT0)
The Michelle Obama bobble-head doll will be dressed like a bumble bee and holding a "Fuck Tea Baggers" sign.
Posted by: Fish at July 12, 2010 02:34 PM (v1gw3)
Amen. That's just humiliating.
Posted by: Ombudsman at July 12, 2010 02:34 PM (y4B2y)
Posted by: Holy Shit, really holy fucking shit at July 12, 2010 06:31 PM (Gr1V1)
Don't get too excited. I honestly think we'd be better off with the Democrats. At least they don't lie about their views.
Fuck Scott Brown
Posted by: beedubya at July 12, 2010 02:35 PM (AnTyA)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 12, 2010 02:35 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Ombudsman at July 12, 2010 02:36 PM (y4B2y)
The Barbara Boxer bobble-head doll will come with a bad hair day and a vocal message, "don't call me ma'am, call me Senator general."
Posted by: Fish at July 12, 2010 02:37 PM (v1gw3)
Posted by: George Orwell at July 12, 2010 02:37 PM (AZGON)
Ah another Obama White House trial balloon filled with flatulent goes awry
Posted by: Buffalobob at July 12, 2010 02:37 PM (Bqsom)
Toomey +2 over Sestak in PA, too. The White House isn't going to do Sestak any favors, after having the temerity to run against Snarlin' Arlen. Shame..
Posted by: Ombudsman at July 12, 2010 02:37 PM (y4B2y)
As for Meg, hope she wins, but she is going to run into a brick wall of govt union backed thug legislators so unless she goes Christie on them, its going to be tough, but at least she can stall them out for 4 years.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at July 12, 2010 02:39 PM (JSghx)
Posted by: George Orwell at July 12, 2010 02:41 PM (AZGON)
Many jihadists are also medical doctors.
An education doesn't preclude jihad.
It makes for smarter martyrs.
Posted by: Brian72 at July 12, 2010 02:43 PM (GNBk5)
Posted by: George Orwell at July 12, 2010 02:43 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Zero sum at July 12, 2010 02:43 PM (Gr1V1)
Posted by: dr kill at July 12, 2010 02:43 PM (w9bVp)
What the hell is around Mara's neck?
Posted by: Ombudsman at July 12, 2010 06:42 PM (y4B2y)
Those are condor eggs, and hatch every ten years on Lincoln's birthday.
Posted by: Fish at July 12, 2010 02:45 PM (v1gw3)
She doesn't look like the pearl necklace type. (Thought I'd get that in before Fish did)
Posted by: Ombudsman at July 12, 2010 02:45 PM (y4B2y)
Posted by: t-bird at July 12, 2010 06:21 PM (FcR7P)
In the initial takeover of the promised land, it was all-out war - take no enemies, leave no suvivors at times. Of course, the promised land was quite finite and once it was conquered no further activities of this type were entertained, except that the land was defended without apology - no matter what it took. But this state structure was never meant to be applied outside of the promised land.
For islam, the "Kill, kill, kill!" attitude extends to the whole of the world - and out into space, if NASA gets its way. It is limited by nothing and promoted by the ideology's declaration that all falls under it.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 12, 2010 02:46 PM (Qp4DT)
Woo-hoo..Snowe just came out and said she will vote for Obammie's financial reform bill
...thank God we have principled conservatives like Scott Brown
Posted by: beedubya at July 12, 2010 02:46 PM (AnTyA)
Why don't you try watching the actual fucking video to see if your ears are lying to you again, you stupid fuck.
Posted by: Waterhouse at July 12, 2010 02:46 PM (uoL0S)
Posted by: Mel Gibson at July 12, 2010 02:47 PM (AZGON)
What the hell is around Mara's neck?
Posted by: Ombudsman at July 12, 2010 06:42 PM (y4B2y)
Those are condor eggs, and hatch every ten years on Lincoln's birthday.
Cancel all the above.
Posted by: Fish at July 12, 2010 02:47 PM (v1gw3)
yay..Scott Brown...what a great day that was when he was elected...yay
Posted by: beedubya at July 12, 2010 02:47 PM (AnTyA)
I forget- does he have to run again in November?
Posted by: Ombudsman at July 12, 2010 02:49 PM (y4B2y)
Yes otherwise the public option would be law by now.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 12, 2010 02:49 PM (0q2P7)
Yay..we have principled conservatives like Whitman and Fiorina taking respective leads in California
...yay...we may have Carly alongside Scott Brown in the Senate..yay..
.
Posted by: beedubya at July 12, 2010 02:50 PM (AnTyA)
Yes otherwise the public option would be law by now.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 12, 2010 06:49 PM
Bartender..give me a double of what he's having
Posted by: beedubya at July 12, 2010 02:52 PM (AnTyA)
Posted by: rdbrewer at July 12, 2010 02:55 PM (5LT3M)
Posted by: Doc at July 12, 2010 02:59 PM (MYT77)
Posted by: Ombudsman at July 12, 2010 03:02 PM (y4B2y)
Amen. That's just humiliating.
Posted by: Ombudsman at July 12, 2010 06:34 PM (y4B2y)
--I think they're working on robots, not manned missions. In any case, who cares if they land on the moon? Been there, done that, 41 years ago.
Posted by: logprof at July 12, 2010 03:07 PM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: logprof at July 12, 2010 07:07 PM (BP6Z1)
Because it's ours.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 12, 2010 03:11 PM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent - black panthers are white if you invert the color at July 12, 2010 03:12 PM (YVZlY)
only if we are lucky. Otherwise we get 6 more years of Babs, whom, I think has voted conservatively, oh that's right never. Or do you entertain the belief that we could run Fred Thompson here and beat Babs?......Based on ideological purity? I usually lean more purist, and think that we give up too much. But California isn't a toss up state anymore, maybe you've noticed; We went 61/37 for a known Socialist two years ago, losing Los Angeles, San Diego, the entire Bay Area, and Sacramento. Never mind, your a jackass who would rather have a clensing. Because guess what, libbies aren't going away any other way, and some states are riddled with them.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 12, 2010 03:12 PM (0q2P7)
What??? Of course I'm conservative. I have an (R) after my name, don't I??
...ooooohhhhhh...there's Scott Brown. I love him. He has an (R) too....
...and he was in Cosmo
Posted by: Carly Fiorina at July 12, 2010 03:14 PM (AnTyA)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2010 03:14 PM (5jbD3)
Fuck you, whoever you are.
It's becoming increasingly obvious that the Dems would have been able to pick Scott Brown off as a vote for ObamaCare if they'd really needed him. They'll have him for Cap & Trade, Card Check, Kagan, and whatever else they want.
Brown is worse than useless.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at July 12, 2010 03:15 PM (cHiut)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 12, 2010 03:16 PM (0q2P7)
Why would you want Babs Boxer,??? She's just soooo darned predictable.
I'm more fun. You'll never know how I'll vote.
Posted by: Carly Fiorina at July 12, 2010 03:17 PM (AnTyA)
O/T
Republican Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine says she will vote to overhaul financial regulations, pushing the legislation to the verge of final passage and a victory for President Barack Obama.
The Grand Utopia of Marxism is closer than we think. Senator Snowe has out lived her usefulness, and needs to live with the proletariat for a few years performing the evil blow job.
Posted by: Fish at July 12, 2010 03:19 PM (v1gw3)
Posted by: CBDenver at July 12, 2010 03:20 PM (3VJ9f)
Guess what they did. And they didn't. Or do you think that that Obamacare as passed was the form the Harry and Nancy hoped for, or do you think, that Reid didn't know that this stunt would cost him plenty of seats and endanger his own? And just said, ah, we could get Brown and claim bipartisanship and a legal Senate vote, but I'd rather commit a kamikaze suicide, blow holes in my majority, and force my kid to run for office without using my last name?
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 12, 2010 03:20 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Fish at July 12, 2010 07:19 PM
...but...but...but we have Scott Brown (R) MA, who will stop this
We need more like him.........like Carly Fiorina
Posted by: beedubya at July 12, 2010 03:21 PM (AnTyA)
Why would you want Babs Boxer,??? She's just soooo darned predictable.
I'm more fun. You'll never know how I'll vote.
I'll take a set of dice over Babs. Odds say I'll win sometimes.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 12, 2010 03:22 PM (0q2P7)
Speak English and I'll give you a response.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at July 12, 2010 03:23 PM (cHiut)
Anybody see any Black Panther coverage on the MFM news tonight?
Thanks, I'll be here all week.
I really will.
Posted by: gator at July 12, 2010 03:23 PM (aOKEC)
http://tinyurl.com/37mmolv
The female co-author is president of La Raza.
Posted by: PA Cat at July 12, 2010 03:24 PM (6iC1y)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 12, 2010 03:25 PM (0q2P7)
OK Simple. Reid and the Dems had more than enough reasons to get Brown's vote if they could. The fact they didn't is a very strong argument that they couldn't.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 12, 2010 03:27 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 12, 2010 07:16 PM
1) Goldwater was an Arizonan, so he couldn't run against Boxer
2) He's dead.
3) If we had a real conservative who had support..fuck yeah..he'd kick ass. But too large a segment of the conservative bloc is too concerned about offending the left
*cough*like Ace*cough*
Posted by: beedubya at July 12, 2010 03:28 PM (AnTyA)
Why do we place so much trust in politicians who pull the same shenanigans every single election? Sincerity, honesty, & integrity are foreign words to these people. So why are we disappointed when they lie?
/Though I'd say 5-10% of politicians are worthwhile.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby, cynic at July 12, 2010 03:28 PM (/h097)
/Though I'd say 5-10% of politicians are worthwhile.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby, cynic at July 12, 2010 07:28 PM (/h097)
About the same percentage is true of Bangkok brothels, and amazingly, the end result is the same.
Posted by: Fish at July 12, 2010 03:31 PM (v1gw3)
Why do we place so much trust in politicians who pull the same shenanigans every single election?
Apparently, only conservatives are disappointed when their guy lies. The libs could care less, as long as their candidate wins.
That's why you haven't seen Iraq War protests in, say, about 20 months.
Posted by: gator at July 12, 2010 03:32 PM (aOKEC)
Speak English and I'll give you a response
OK Simple. Reid and the Dems had more than enough reasons to get Brown's vote if they could. The fact they didn't is a very strong argument that they couldn't.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose
He said speak English. Really...it's right there.
Posted by: beedubya at July 12, 2010 03:33 PM (AnTyA)
only if we are lucky. Otherwise we get 6 more years of Babs, whom, I think has voted conservatively, oh that's right never. Or do you entertain the belief that we could run Fred Thompson here and beat Babs?......Based on ideological purity? I usually lean more purist, and think that we give up too much. But California isn't a toss up state anymore, maybe you've noticed; We went 61/37 for a known Socialist two years ago, losing Los Angeles, San Diego, the entire Bay Area, and Sacramento. Never mind, your a jackass who would rather have a clensing. Because guess what, libbies aren't going away any other way, and some states are riddled with them.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 12, 2010 07:12 PM (0q2P7)
--I agree. No need to go for 24k pure conservative in places like MA and CA.
Because to get to the moon, first you have to occupy or at least me in "near space" , the space around the planet earth. And he who controls space, controls the space under it---meaning EARTH.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2010 07:14 PM (5jbD3)
--And we need manned craft to control that space? Nope.
Posted by: logprof at July 12, 2010 03:34 PM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2010 03:35 PM (5jbD3)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I knew it would be good.
And this mythical Dark Horse can just win anywhere, because, nowhere in this country are those 30% or so self avowed liberals, who actually want Socialism, concentrated in a way that influences polls.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 12, 2010 03:36 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2010 07:35 PM (5jbD3)
--So in a way you're backing up my point. We could make several unmanned craft and missions for each manned one. What you said just reinforces my point that 0bama is an idiot. 
Posted by: logprof at July 12, 2010 03:38 PM (BP6Z1)
And this mythical Dark Horse can just win anywhere, because, nowhere in this country are those 30% or so self avowed liberals, who actually want Socialism, concentrated in a way that influences polls.
Speaka the English
Posted by: beedubya at July 12, 2010 03:38 PM (AnTyA)
The vast majority of people are not douchebag political junkies like we are. Most conservatives are simply watching a guy we expended time and money working to elect not six months ago to serve as a bulwark against all of this shit rolling right over and helping to pass all of it. They have had it up to fucking here with liars, cowards, and frauds and they are not going to listen to a collection of wonkish assholes on the "right" tell them they have "tunnel vision" for being angry at getting stabbed in the back.
The election of Scott Brown got us absolutely NOTHING, in case you haven't been paying attention. All his betrayals are doing is increasing the anger and disillusionment of the party base toward the GOP. If you really think that the destruction of America's financial sector and de facto nationalization of all American businesses is a net gain for us just because it encouraged Hattie McBaldo to run for office in a deep blue state, then good for you. Enjoy it.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at July 12, 2010 03:40 PM (cHiut)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at July 12, 2010 07:38 PM (JSghx)
--She's cleaning up the Gulf whilst trashing America. Multitasking.
Posted by: logprof at July 12, 2010 03:40 PM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: railwriter at July 12, 2010 03:41 PM (daRzV)
Posted by: Neo at July 12, 2010 03:42 PM (tE8FB)
Posted by: railwriter at July 12, 2010 03:42 PM (daRzV)
I'll try shorter sentences with smaller words.
Some people like Socialism.
Some people WANT Socialism.
Many of them live in California.
California used to have a lot of people that didn't want Socialism.
Most of them left.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 12, 2010 03:45 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at July 12, 2010 03:45 PM (JSghx)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2010 03:46 PM (5jbD3)
*cough*like Ace*cough*
Posted by: beedubya at July 12, 2010 07:28 PM
One can only cringe when thinking about the names that would appear on the voting rolls....
"You can vote new, Mr Kratos, and Mizz GirlInSeattle is next...."
Posted by: MrScribbler at July 12, 2010 03:47 PM (Ulu3i)
Heh. check out drudges bold headline.
Think Baracksucker puts his junk in there?
Not unless he values his manhood.
HA! Yeah, I went for the obvious. Ya see, it works two ways...
Posted by: ErikW, Open Mic Night Failure at July 12, 2010 03:49 PM (NU7dt)
Some people WANT Socialism.
Many of them live in California.
California used to have a lot of people that didn't want Socialism.
Most of them left.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 12, 2010 07:45 PM
Fuck...Fuck..Fuck..(bashes head against wall)
It doesn't fucking matter. Fiorina would be no fucking better that Ma'am on the important issues..
Carly Fiorina (with a fucking "R" after her name) is in favor of Cap and Trade
....but it's only the "R" that matters...good thing she doesn't have a "D"..
Posted by: beedubya at July 12, 2010 03:51 PM (AnTyA)
Not unless he values his manhood.
I just wondered if he kept his junk in there, as in uses it as storage space.
Posted by: gator at July 12, 2010 03:51 PM (aOKEC)
Ought to have said three generations. Flame away.
Posted by: railwriter at July 12, 2010 07:42 PM (daRzV)
In some inner-cities would be four generations.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 12, 2010 03:51 PM (oIp16)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 12, 2010 07:45 PM
..fucking awesome we have brilliant minds like Mikey the Moosehead to set us straight, huh?
Posted by: beedubya at July 12, 2010 03:53 PM (AnTyA)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 12, 2010 03:54 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: dr kill at July 12, 2010 03:55 PM (w9bVp)
Scott Brown is a vote for majority leader with an R after his name. That means controlling committees (where teh dangerous stuff happens) and moving the agenda. An (R) in that spot will probably be a squish, but hell of a lot better than Hairy Reed.
I'd love a true blue conservative in every elected office in teh land. We can't get it.
I'd therefore like to minimize the amount to damage the government can do.
Period.
Brown would never have voted for Obamacare, because that is exactly what he campaigned on. He could chuck a lot over the edge, but not his "I'm the 41st vote, not the 60th" line.
Posted by: s'moron at July 12, 2010 03:55 PM (UaxA0)
In some inner-cities would be four generations.
Posted by: Jim in San DiegoI'll see your four and raise you five generations..
If you factor in the pregnant JR. High Schoolers, you could easily get 5.5...
Posted by: FORGER - Racist Czar at July 12, 2010 03:55 PM (E5Pqe)
In some inner-cities would be four generations.
My next door neighbor in CA was a 7 ft tall 18 year old and he had good hair. I shit you not, he had 10 kids, all under 4 years old. Every sista out there wanted to have a son who could be in the NBA with good hair.
Didn't have a job, he didn't.
Posted by: gator at July 12, 2010 03:55 PM (aOKEC)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 12, 2010 07:54 PM (0q2P7)
We did? How did I miss that?
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 12, 2010 03:56 PM (oIp16)
290 All I'm saying is that we seem to be surprised that they play-the-game, when it's what they get paid to do. Politics isn't exactly the most noble of professions, & our current crop is more corrupt than average (to put it mildly).
I will say that I'm disappointed when a politician who is not like the others lies, cheats, steals, etc., though I realize they all do it at some point. But what to do?
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby, cynic at July 12, 2010 03:56 PM (/h097)
I just wondered if he kept his junk in there, as in uses it as storage space.
I had a nice safe bail-out procedure and you knifed the whole deal!
That's okay, it was a shitty joke anyway. 
Posted by: ErikW, Open Mic Night Failure at July 12, 2010 03:58 PM (NU7dt)
Didn't have a job, he didn't.
Posted by: gator at July 12, 2010 07:55 PM (aOKEC)
He was bangin' da honeys. How could he have time to work? Would you? I'm pretty sure I'd have to think long and hard about getting out of bed in the morning were that the case. Besides, he had good hair. I'm not sure what that means... but still.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 12, 2010 03:59 PM (oIp16)
Me tinks she keeps her junk in him, as hers is bigger.
Posted by: sTevo at July 12, 2010 04:01 PM (zIUsq)
We did? How did I miss that?
Jim, do you honestly believe California could trend conservative again? After 20 years in Los Angeles, I tend to be a little fatalistic on this point. I know there are a great many conservatives out there, but their best hope stems from the fact that most democrats don't vote.
Posted by: gator at July 12, 2010 04:02 PM (aOKEC)
Posted by: logprof at July 12, 2010 04:03 PM (BP6Z1)
Jesus Motherfucking Christ
..that fucking moronioc idiot Bill O'Reilly just said that Erskine Bowles came to a conclusion about the deficit that Obama wouldn't like
FUCK...FUCK..FUCK
he gave Obama just what he wanted..here come the tax increases
My fucking God...O'Reilley you idiot SHUT.THE.FUCK.UP!!!
Posted by: beedubya at July 12, 2010 04:03 PM (AnTyA)
Drew, are you using dictation software?
Posted by: Original Roy at July 12, 2010 04:05 PM (wTawr)
Posted by: CAC at July 12, 2010 04:05 PM (Gr1V1)
Sweet: NFL Network is showing the '94 MNF game when Joe Montana led the Chiefs to beat Elway in Denver.
Well, whoopdy fucking doo.
Posted by: Ronster at July 12, 2010 04:06 PM (nnNfA)
Posted by: CAC at July 12, 2010 04:07 PM (Gr1V1)
We did? How did I miss that?
Jim, do you honestly believe California could trend conservative again? After 20 years in Los Angeles, I tend to be a little fatalistic on this point. I know there are a great many conservatives out there, but their best hope stems from the fact that most democrats don't vote.
Posted by: gator at July 12, 2010 08:02 PM (aOKEC)
If they could find a way to enforce all immigration laws we would flip back to red tomorrow and get even redder in a decade. In it's most simplistic terms, that is the kernel of ALL of California's problems. It will not happen under an Obama administration, or any kind of a squish Republican.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 12, 2010 04:07 PM (oIp16)
Sweet: NFL Network is showing the '94 MNF game when Joe Montana led the Chiefs to beat Elway in Denver.
Damn Chief fans.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at July 12, 2010 04:08 PM (qjJVe)
I dunno. The trouble is that the ag folks, who in many ways "should" be conservative and are conservative, want cheap labor. Lots of money in that group. I think they have enough money to protect their personal interests while propping up a broken immigration system that gets them cheap labor to pick their crops.
Posted by: Y-not at July 12, 2010 04:10 PM (O627A)
The sistas in South Central wanted babies. Men aren't even considered in the equation for most of the ladies out there. The government is there to take care of your baby, and you don't need a man. I think it was something they wanted, to be a single mom so they could claim yet more victim status. Badge O'Courage, it was.
I taught a seventh grade class once, and one of my students got pregnant. I asked her "What are you gonna do now?"
Her answer was "Sign up for WIC, obviously." Seventh grade.
Race means nothing, culture is everything. Can't deny the changing culture of America.
Posted by: gator at July 12, 2010 04:11 PM (aOKEC)
Posted by: dr kill at July 12, 2010 04:11 PM (w9bVp)
Posted by: ford at July 12, 2010 04:12 PM (Ki7fm)
Posted by: dr kill at July 12, 2010 04:15 PM (w9bVp)
Sweet: NFL Network is showing the '94 MNF game when Joe Montana led the Chiefs to beat Elway in Denver.
Damn Chief fans.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at July 12, 2010 08:08 PM (qjJVe)
--Hey, I gotta go way back to when the Chefs were good. Cut a fan of losers some slack.
Posted by: logprof at July 12, 2010 04:15 PM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2010 04:15 PM (5jbD3)
If they could find a way to enforce all immigration laws we would flip back to red tomorrow and get even redder in a decade.
Throw another 'if' in there, too. They have to find a way to take citizenship away from all the Mexican anchor babies that have been born there in the last 50 years. Because, once they are American, they are entitled to all benefits and can bring their family over from Mexico.
If you want to deport their parents, of course, you, SIR, are worse than Hitler. Sounds terrible to say, but the wrong cultures are outbreeding the right ones. People will read that as race, but that's not the case. Smart people don't have 10 kids with ten different women, OR with one. Because they would feel responsible and think the baby would be THEIR financial responsibility. When that doesn't hold you back, it's fucking time, baby. Sure, they have serious consequence in their lives, but paying for their babies ain't one of them.
Posted by: gator at July 12, 2010 04:16 PM (aOKEC)
Posted by: CAC at July 12, 2010 04:17 PM (Gr1V1)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby, cynic at July 12, 2010 04:18 PM (/h097)
--Hey, I gotta go way back to when the Chefs were good. Cut a fan of losers some slack.
Posted by: logprof at July 12, 2010 08:15 PM (BP6Z1)
Ok fair enough. We haven't exactly been lighting the world of fire since Elway retired though.
It will be fun to root for the left's least favorite qb.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at July 12, 2010 04:18 PM (qjJVe)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at July 12, 2010 04:19 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: CAC at July 12, 2010 04:19 PM (Gr1V1)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2010 04:20 PM (5jbD3)
INCONCEIVABLE!!!
Posted by: Vince Foster at July 12, 2010 04:20 PM (ATu6O)
I dunno. The trouble is that the ag folks, who in many ways "should" be conservative and are conservative, want cheap labor. Lots of money in that group. I think they have enough money to protect their personal interests while propping up a broken immigration system that gets them cheap labor to pick their crops.
Posted by: Y-not at July 12, 2010 08:10 PM (O627A)
True, but the number of ag workers, as a percentage of Illegals is pitifully small. It's some number less than 1%.
There is little that is more expensive than 'cheap labor'.
Illegals add over $21,000,000,000 in cost to California's budget alone.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 12, 2010 04:23 PM (oIp16)
My only fear for my kids is that they might get pressured against "acting white"
Damn right, CAC. I had students with 'A's ask me to fail them because they were getting teased. Reading a book was mocked as 'acting white'. I admire the kids that could stand up to it and see the bigger picture. Their parents were the hardest working people in the neighborhood.
Growing up in the deepest darkest crackerest part of Georgia, I was friends with a million black kids, and it never, ever occurred to me that they weren't just like me. My mom hated y'alls black asses, but she got hers because my sisters married strong black men. Hilarious. She actually kicked me out once because I let my brother-in-law in the house. Seriously. How fucked in the head is that?
Two things I have seen in my experiences:
1. The trailer park and the ghetto are almost exactly the same.
2. Rich people and poor people are taken care of by the government.
Posted by: gator at July 12, 2010 04:25 PM (aOKEC)
Posted by: Ground Chucked n Rolled Bolden at July 12, 2010 04:25 PM (zIUsq)
I have to disagree with this, as I know people who do have up to 10 kids, with their one and only wife, and who are raising them without taxpayer support.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 12, 2010 04:25 PM (5aVkt)
Posted by: CAC at July 12, 2010 04:28 PM (Gr1V1)
I have to disagree with this, as I know people who do have up to 10 kids, with their one and only wife, and who are raising them without taxpayer support.
You are absolutely right...I was generalizing a bit there. But, as you know, this isn't the norm.
Posted by: gator at July 12, 2010 04:29 PM (aOKEC)
Posted by: Y-not at July 12, 2010 08:10 PM (O627A)
Fuck...Fuck..Fuck
My one brother-in-law who was in the building trades just sold the last of his commercial properties..and now he and his wife are selling their "dream home"..
They don't know what they will do after that
..he began losing business before the Obama depression when the competitionmostly from out-of-state brought in illegals for their crews.
He provided a good living for about two dozen people for a long fucking time
..so FUCK YOU!!!
Posted by: beedubya at July 12, 2010 04:31 PM (AnTyA)
Posted by: CAC at July 12, 2010 08:28 PM (Gr1V1)
--I hope so. It's about time the scales fell from a lot of eyes.
Posted by: logprof at July 12, 2010 04:32 PM (BP6Z1)
Two things I have seen in my experiences:
1. The trailer park and the ghetto are almost exactly the same.
The only difference is that you can actually see the shitty tattoos on the white people.
Posted by: ErikW at July 12, 2010 04:32 PM (NU7dt)
Ive been thinking Jim about the latest poll numbers showing the black vote going 1/3 to the Republican Whitman and Fiorina...
I have not seen that, but I hope you are correct. I just don't see large numbers of blacks leaving the Democrat plantation even though their new Hispanic overseers want to 'disappear' them.
For the last two decades, in SoCal there has been a systematic and frequently lethal ethnic cleansing of Blacks from large swaths of LA.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 12, 2010 04:34 PM (oIp16)
Posted by: CAC at July 12, 2010 04:35 PM (Gr1V1)
the black v mexican thing happening in Los Angeles
How would you like your black child to sit in elementary school and do nothing while the Latino kids in his class learned English? The people who are hurt the worst by illegal immigration are black. Go try to get a job flipping burgers in LA if you don't speak English. The illegals have killed so many black men, and our government doesn't care.
I think the brothers and sistas are gonna miss whitey when the Mexicans are running the show. 
Posted by: gator at July 12, 2010 04:35 PM (aOKEC)
It's obvious she hasn't communicated this message to her ass:
Michelle Obama: Dessert is not a right!
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent - black panthers are white if you invert the color at July 12, 2010 04:37 PM (YVZlY)
Posted by: logprof at July 12, 2010 04:38 PM (BP6Z1)
Go try to get a job flipping burgers in LA if you don't speak English Spanish.
Fixed!
But seriously, you cannot get a job at a burger place around here if you do not speak Spanish. Not speaking English isn't that big of a hindrance.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 12, 2010 04:39 PM (oIp16)
Posted by: CAC at July 12, 2010 04:39 PM (Gr1V1)
The only difference is that you can actually see the shitty tattoos on the white people.
Another slight difference:
The black chicks in my neighborhood (Hoover Crips Territory) wore orange and blue weaves to 'reprezent thay cullers'. Trailer park chicks just dyed theirs to attract the mullet boys.
Posted by: gator at July 12, 2010 04:40 PM (aOKEC)
Posted by: gator at July 12, 2010 08:35 PM (aOKEC)
Gator, you obviously haven't spent much time trying to order at fast food drive-thru lanes in Southern California.
Posted by: Cicero at July 12, 2010 04:41 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: dr kill at July 12, 2010 04:41 PM (w9bVp)
Go try to get a job flipping burgers in LA if you don't speak English Spanish.
Fixed!
But seriously, you cannot get a job at a burger place around here if you do not speak Spanish. Not speaking English isn't that big of a hindrance.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 12, 2010 08:39 PM (oIp16)
Just wait until the U.S. Federation of Burger Flippers gets organized and affiliates with the SEIU!
Posted by: USFBF at July 12, 2010 04:41 PM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: CAC at July 12, 2010 04:42 PM (Gr1V1)
For the last two decades, in SoCal there has been a systematic and frequently lethal ethnic cleansing of Blacks from large swaths of LA."
Once the Mexican immigrants have Srebrenica'ed the poorer neighborhoods, the only remaining blacks would be the wealthy/middle class ones. There are actually *a few* GOP voters in that contingent.
Posted by: Zombie King Henry V at July 12, 2010 04:42 PM (ySNz/)
I agree with that. I just know too many people who are looked down on for having large families, i.e. "You know where those come from, don't you?" The real problem is indeed the people who are having babies with multiple partners and who feel no responsibility to care for them.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 12, 2010 04:43 PM (5aVkt)
But seriously, you cannot get a job at a burger place around here if you do not speak Spanish
Spot on...that's what I meant. I never saw a black kid with a job at McDonald's. It was usually all older Latinas. If you only spoke Spanish, you were fine. I would go a day or so without speaking English in public.
Posted by: gator at July 12, 2010 04:43 PM (aOKEC)
“There has been no stronger defender of the State of Arizona than Governor Jan Brewer,” [Mr. Blank] said in a statement. “From border security to health care to job creation, Governor Brewer has consistently stood up for our state. Governor Brewer continues to lead the fight against the Obama administration’s frivolous lawsuit against Arizona’s immigration law.
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at July 12, 2010 04:44 PM (oL8lS)
Posted by: dr kill at July 12, 2010 04:44 PM (w9bVp)
Posted by: steevy at July 12, 2010 04:47 PM (du6fs)
Posted by: steevy at July 12, 2010 04:48 PM (du6fs)
Posted by: dr kill at July 12, 2010 04:49 PM (w9bVp)
Posted by: TEAPartyBlackCaucus2011 at July 12, 2010 04:49 PM (Gr1V1)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2010 04:50 PM (5jbD3)
Damn .. That easy?
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at July 12, 2010 08:47 PM (oL8lS)
I also want to guess John McCain.
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent - black panthers are nothing but big pussies at July 12, 2010 04:50 PM (YVZlY)
Let's be honest, the Mexicans hate your black asses. They have quite a few Spanish, well, at least Mexican Spanish, slurs for you brothas and sistas. There are neighborhoods in LA, like Alabama used to have, where you darker fellas are not welcomed. They seriously would shoot your ass.
There were/are black/brown fights at schools all the time. I'm surprised LA hasn't burned since Rodney King.
Posted by: gator at July 12, 2010 04:51 PM (aOKEC)
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 12, 2010 04:52 PM (oIp16)
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 12, 2010 08:52 PM (oIp16)
McCain better just back the fuck away from Jan. She is all mine. Always has been.
Posted by: Will Folks at July 12, 2010 04:54 PM (YVZlY)
The NASA director? He's getting an edumacation in Chi-town politics.
Meantime, apparently the hole in the Gulf has been plugged. Obama scheduling a presser to take full responsibility in 3.....2.....1.....
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 12, 2010 04:54 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: theoneandonlyfinn at July 12, 2010 04:56 PM (Gr1V1)
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at July 12, 2010 04:56 PM (554T5)
The black chicks in my neighborhood (Hoover Crips Territory) wore orange and blue weaves to 'reprezent thay cullers'. Trailer park chicks just dyed theirs to attract the mullet boys.
Been there. Part of my ministry training was living in the Bottoms (Franklinton) in the floodplain south of Downtown Columbus. It was a typical cockroach infested, turn of the century neighborhood with half of the houses boarded up and gang activity all over the place.
It was one quarter white, three quarters black and they all embraced the downtrodden culture. It was tough to communicate because they really didn't want a better opportunity because they simply didn't think it existed for people like them.
Only a few wanted to actually work, the rest just told us to fuck off.
Posted by: ErikW at July 12, 2010 04:56 PM (NU7dt)
I just came from our local Tea Party committee meeting. We had an actual entire Black family join tonight. *gasp*
How can that possibly be? The NAACP has just declared the Tea Party as raaaacist.
Posted by: Ronster at July 12, 2010 04:57 PM (nnNfA)
Posted by: theoneandonlyfinn at July 12, 2010 04:57 PM (Gr1V1)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2010 04:57 PM (5jbD3)
Ah should have edited the 'our State' part, me thinks.
Since no ONT yet. Here's another quote apropos of nothing recent (hint).
“Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”
No peeking, of course.
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at July 12, 2010 04:58 PM (oL8lS)
*looks around for missing loofah*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 12, 2010 04:59 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 12, 2010 05:01 PM (UOM48)
they simply didn't think it existed for people like them.
THAT! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ They truly think the American dream isn't available to them, and hate with much anger anyone who tries to tell them any different. Poverty is a mental disorder.
Best intentions and all that.
Posted by: gator at July 12, 2010 05:01 PM (aOKEC)
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at July 12, 2010 05:01 PM (554T5)
Posted by: logprof at July 12, 2010 05:02 PM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: gator at July 12, 2010 05:03 PM (aOKEC)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 12, 2010 05:03 PM (UOM48)
Best intentions and all that.
Posted by: gator at July 12, 2010 09:01 PM (aOKEC)
How YOU doing?
Posted by: ENVY in San Diego at July 12, 2010 05:03 PM (oIp16)
Posted by: gator at July 12, 2010 09:03 PM (aOKEC)
--Thanks, asshole.
Posted by: logprof at July 12, 2010 05:04 PM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 12, 2010 05:04 PM (UOM48)
In a millennium, after archaeologists are able to reconstruct the Internet from the shredded remains of our efforts, they will find this comment and remark, "They were an honest but truly fucked up civilization."
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at July 12, 2010 05:05 PM (oL8lS)
Posted by: Ronster at July 12, 2010 05:06 PM (nnNfA)
There were/are black/brown fights at schools all the time. I'm surprised LA hasn't burned since Rodney King.
Posted by: gator at July 12, 2010 08:51 PM (aOKEC)
Got a match, Homie?
Posted by: La Eme at July 12, 2010 05:06 PM (5oTOQ)
Posted by: Samantha Brown's ass at July 12, 2010 05:07 PM (w9bVp)
Either we cut defense to ZERO and raise taxes to 120% or this country is going straight to monetary hell. Hell, I tell you! And we need a VAT. Two VATs, in fact.
Posted by: Irksome Bowels at July 12, 2010 05:08 PM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: Cheri at July 12, 2010 05:10 PM (llSaz)
THAT! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ They truly think the American dream isn't available to them, and hate with much anger anyone who tries to tell them any different. Poverty is a mental disorder.
Poverty is not a mental disorder, I've been to small store-front churches in the ghetto that preach self-reliance and often times that's what keeps the community together.
Poverty is what libs use to crush the spirits of poor people.
You think Shabazz hates white people? I hate people like Shabazz who enslave their own people through ignorance.
Fuck them.
Posted by: ErikW at July 12, 2010 05:12 PM (NU7dt)
You don't say.......
Posted by: Don Imus
Fo' shizzle, ma' mizzle.
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at July 12, 2010 05:12 PM (oL8lS)
Posted by: theoneandonlyfinn at July 12, 2010 05:15 PM (Gr1V1)
Posted by: Irksome Bowels at July 12, 2010 09:08 PM (Qp4DT)
Hellz yeah!!11!!1!
Posted by: ricky at Crooks and Liars at July 12, 2010 05:17 PM (BP6Z1)
Fuck them.
Much like the muslims who happily blow themselves in half in the hopes they can kill Jewish children, the inner city folk have been taught from early on that they are victims and don't even have to try.
Con men keep them that way, but their parents start the indoctrination. They are too stupid or don't care to get out of their situation. They are mental slaves to people like Shabazz Malik Erika Bambada Badu and Rev Wright, no doubt. Those guys all live in gated, WHITE neighborhoods away from the shit they love to preach about.
But, yeah, fuck them if they won't be helped and can be so easily duped.
Posted by: gator at July 12, 2010 05:18 PM (aOKEC)
I've only been in California for about 4 years, but my impression is that it someone's perspective of the state is really colored by where one is, south vs north, inland vs coast, rural vs city. So I was just curious where you lived in California.
I think the people down here in Southern California (eastern L.A. county/Inland Empire) are so stressed out about getting by here that even if they trend conservative (as several of my neighbors do) they are not up for a big political fight. I think getting someone who is not part of the Democrat machinery and somewhat business friendly is about the best we can hope for.
Posted by: Y-not at July 12, 2010 05:19 PM (O627A)
You going to the live show next month? Reefer Madness, baby!
Posted by: Filly at July 12, 2010 05:20 PM (6ab9q)
Posted by: curious at July 12, 2010 05:22 PM (p302b)
I agree, but I've talked with a fair number of ag business types (when I was working for a UC ag school) and they just don't seem to see it. There was only one guy out of about two dozen board member types who wanted to invest in engineering solutions to pick crops (like robotic stone fruit pickers), the rest of them just wanted to talk about "immigration reform."
I think they are so insulated from the numerous downsides of the illegal problem here that they just don't care what it does to the state. They have lots of money, family money, and property, including out of state, so once they retire they're set.
Posted by: Y-not at July 12, 2010 05:23 PM (O627A)
331 Jesus Motherfucking Christ
..that fucking moronioc idiot Bill O'Reilly just said that Erskine Bowles came to a conclusion about the deficit that Obama wouldn't like
FUCK...FUCK..FUCK
he gave Obama just what he wanted..here come the tax increases
My fucking God...O'Reilley you idiot SHUT.THE.FUCK.UP!!!
Were you screaming obscenities at your TV too? My husband went to bed with a headache after my screed!
Posted by: Marybeth at July 12, 2010 05:32 PM (zQoWP)
Was born here, raised here, left for the Navy for a while, came back. Lived in San Diego, the northern state, and the Bay area. If I had really known how bad the State had gotten I'd have never returned.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 12, 2010 05:49 PM (afd0I)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at July 12, 2010 05:51 PM (yQUhB)
Posted by: KG at July 12, 2010 07:00 PM (S8TF5)
Posted by: Neo at July 12, 2010 07:24 PM (tE8FB)
Reagan came along and advanced the conservative cause. He started out as a Democrat and lost the nomination to Ford before winning a landslide victory four years later. He actually lost the nomination in 1968 to Nixon, as well, now that I think of it.
CA and MA are not going to flip over night, even if you have the purest guy you can find on the ballot. They are both controlled by unions, gerrymandered and largely inhabited by a dependent class of citizens.
How long have conservatives been bitching and moaning about Snowe and Graham? McCain is more conservative than the Maine sisters, but neither of them have faced a primary challenge like the one in Arizona right now. The best they could dredge up was Hayworth, too, so Maverick will stay.
I have read Brown's editorials in Boston papers about why he will vote the way he will. Mitt Romney would have voted the same way. At least Brown will vote with conservatives when he can, but he has to do it with consent of the people who elected him. The Republican party as a whole has not successfully made a case why this bill will kill the economy. It is still seen by the majority of Americans as a "reform" bill, and nobody wants another crisis or a worse economy. It's as if there is a gun to the public's head, and the GOP has not controlled the situation yet. As the RNC chairman said, "Our party is not ready to lead." So, shut up about Brown.
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This guy just got run over by Bammy on a Bike, that's all. Not a mortal wound.
Yet.
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