1 I'm honestly inclined to think Kagan is the best we could hope for out of this administration.

2 NBC News: Obama To Nominate Kagan Fro Supreme CourtAwesome!

3 1st lesbian on the SC!!Historic!!!!

4 I'm sure Kagan is liberal enough.

5

Elena Kagan and Janet Napolitano.  Separated at birth?

6 Fro? Damn, that's some bold racism, boy.

7 Let me be the first to say to our wonderful conservative friends that sat out the last election: elections have consequences--in this case, control of the court was within reach for a generation or more (Yes, I'm assuming Souter et al would have retired if McCain had won, but allow me this blissful little fantasy.) Also: Wordpress is banned again.

8 Kagan wears a Fro?  Weird.

9 Is she going to do that arm-punch flinch contest with Alito?

10 Beat up? By who, Senate Reflublicans? *snort*

11 I'm honestly inclined to think Kagan is the best we could hope for out of this administration.

You know, this is probably true.  Tossing aside her own beliefs, she was supposedly more friendly to the Federalist Society at Harvard than past Deans.  That's not saying too much and she by no means identified with the group, but it at least shows a little more tolerance and less single-minded ideology than other academics.

And yes, "best" here =/= "good."

12 Headline: Elena Makes Lindsey Cry

13 They want their own version of Scalia. Kagan ain't it.>>>> served as the Dean of Harvard Law School.

I'd bet she turns out to be.

then again trade one lib for another.  no matter.

14 If she gives Ruth a wedgie she's all right with me.

15

As Solicitor General, she acted one way.

As a Supreme Court Justice, she will be free to act another.

And of course, this will change the conversation for a few weeks, away from the currency melt-down, falling stock market, floods in Tennessee (what floods?), the oil slick in the Gulf, Obama's golf game, and hopefully FIFA (I hate soccer).

16 She just be a vote, like Sotomayor.   She doesn't have the intellectual firepower to be a liberal Scalia, and alter our understanding of the Constitution by dint of argument.

17 When the left talks about wanting their own version of Scalia, they don't mean somebody who will be a hard left Supreme Court Justice.  They've had a ton of those already.

They want somebody who rip into the other side when writing their decisions as thoroughly as Scalia does.  Since it either doesn't occur to them, or they are unwilling to admit, that Scalia is able to do this because they have the wrong position, they conclude they just need the right Justice to do it.  Kagan hasn't shown a record yet of being that person.

18 Yes, but is she wise?

19 I like this woman.  I really do.

20 Well, it looks like the debt crisis is about to Mad Max us anyway.

21 What are the odds of randomly picking two women in a row for SCOTUS positions among the possible choices?

What percentage of "qualified" people that age are women?

All those race-based lawyers and advocacy groups must know this number.  I'd like to see it.  It seems to me that these should be long odds.

22 They better change those judicial robes to judicial burkas and I mean soon!

23 The GOP should make a fight out of it just because the days of 90+ votes are gone thanks to the Democrats.

The GOP should make a fight of it for the same reason that they need to fight everything The Precedent and Wahington junta try to do, because they need to save the nation.  The Precedent must not be allowed "free movement" of the Executive or legislature for ANYTHING.  The GOP needed to be full force on this from Jan 20th.

On top of that, the GOP needs to specifically fight this because Kagan is probably going to be a total nut on the Court.  The Indonesian Imbecile wouldn't have nominated her if she didn't exhibit this potential, in spades.

24 Like Souter, we're just trading a liberal vote for a liberal vote.  Except for the anguish of what-might-have-been, we're treading water so no wrist slitting.

Good health to Scalia and Thomas.

25

I bet she'll be compassionate.......in all the wrong ways.

Her lesbianism is also a problem.

Blackmail material there....since that seems to be something she feels the need to hide.

Then again, no one has published pics of Sotomayor with a roll of quarters and a donkey.  But you just know they exist. 

26 21, So, Easy Bake covers woman, Hispanic, and gay in his first two picks. What will be next?

27 Are we sure this is not a Harriet Miers pick. Does she have a paper trail from sitting on the bench. And has she ever had to work or was it always in academia.

28 If he gets it next year, it will be with a smaller Senate majority and with some scared Senate Democrats. Will Obama want a fight then to rally the base going into '12?

You mistake The Precedent's intention and motivation.  He doesn't care who he gets on the court.  His main motivation is to put unpalatable nominees up in order to cause friction and chaos in the process of confirmation.  The Precedent is really out to destroy the system, not to move the Court left.  He will move it left, if possible, but he's really intending on destroying everything (if he can) before too long.  It's the chaos in Congress that he wants to foment (as with the Porkulus, as with the health scare) more than the details of what's happening, seen in how he let Congress run hog wild on the Porkulus and health scare and even started throwing dems in Congress under the bus on health scare because he needed to scare them into the suicide run.

29

I just posed a question which I would love to hear the morons weigh in on...

 

yes, it was a preposition

 

Had Obama given Kagan the call last time around, is there any way in hell he could get a Sotomayor through now?  I think the answer is no, and I'm somewhat encouraged by that (that he's seeing just how low his stock has fallen).

Anybody?

30 29, Logical.

31

Had Obama given Kagan the call last time around, is there any way in hell he could get a Sotomayor through now?  I think the answer is no, and I'm somewhat encouraged by that (that he's seeing just how low his stock has fallen).

Posted by: Dave in Texas at May 09, 2010 10:57 PM (Wh0W+)

Well, we have to see what the Kabuki theater in the judiciary committee ends up being for Kagan, but generally I would think that Sotomayor would get the same votes today that she got before.  In fact, with the bullshit flying around the Arizona law and the dems going full racist on it, I think they would be committed to their votes for her, now, more than before.  And Lindsey Grahamnesty would vote to give her a committee vote to get to the floor and the GOP wouldn't get a filibuster together.

That's what I think, at least.

32 3 1st lesbian on the SC!!Historic!!!!

Posted by: typical liberal asshole at May 09, 2010 10:31 PM (6ApNg)

Are you sure?

33 Please take note: She has no paper trail and yet she was Dean of the Harvard Law School.

In no other academic field can you get tenure with as sparse a record as she has.

34 Posted by: Dave in Texas at May 09, 2010 10:57 PM (Wh0W+)

And the GOP amnesty votes would be there for her on the floor.  They would argue some crap about giving The Precedent the courtesy of nomination ... blah blah blah.

35 Had Obama given Kagan the call last time around, is there any way in hell he could get a Sotomayor through now?  I think the answer is no, and I'm somewhat encouraged by that (that he's seeing just how low his stock has fallen).

I agree.  No--not with the election coming up, not with the chance now we could filibuster.

Of course, never underestimate the spinelessness of our side, but we were able to get our leaders to hold a hard line on healthcare.  With the all the stuff in Sotomayor's past, we could have stopped her.

36 Please take note: She has no paper trail and yet she was Dean of the Harvard Law School.

In no other academic field can you get tenure with as sparse a record as she has.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 09, 2010 11:05 PM (T0NGe)

And the ones that have written extensively are idiots.  Harold Koh was Dean of Yale Law School and he doesn't even believe in the concept of the basic sovereignty of the nation-state.  You can't get much dumber than that.

37 The first non Latino ghey on the bench!

Hope and Change!

38 All of you Liberals SUCK.  You want us to be like Greece ?  UNIONS should all GTH and the rest of you liberals can follow

39 HARVARD SUCKS

40 33, Was she born in Hawaii?

41

Kagan is the safe pick. I really thought Obama was going to go for it here. What did he have to lose?

I don't think they want a big fight just before midterms.

42 I do not agree that Kagan is the moderate choice.  She's moderate in terms of Obama picking her and getting her on the Court, but as a person, I think she's very extreme and in a few years everyone will know it.

She's hidden her views carefully, just as Obama has.  As an academic, she's published less stuff than I did as a fucking student.   How did she get to Dean?  It's actually hard to say.

And her few noteworthy calls are exceptionally liberal.  The Military decision was fucking nuts and intemperate.  It's saying you oppose a functional military, in time of war, if you disagree that some T has been crossed.  It's the same reasoning of that birther who won't take orders.  You have to obey some level of rules and law and advocate to the right place to change the intolerable ones.  I can't expect everyone to handle this, but judges and law Deans?  Of course they should get it.

No, there's this pack of Chicago people, Obama and Kagan being but two, who strangely promote eachother for no apparent success.  I think they know eachother well enough to know they are both radicals.  I think a lot of them are radicals and have been playing along with this 'how you get in power' shtick for decades.  Their favorite book is called "Rules of Radicals" after all, and about lying a lot.

Kagan and Obama knew Kagan would be on the Court before Obama even announced his candidacy. 

Now, elections have consequences, and lots of moderates flipped to O and lots of conservatives didn't turn out for Mccain.  This is one of the most dear prices we pay for the 2008 election.  I would vote for a ham sandwich over Obama, and I would even vote for Romney over Obama if not decent human beings manage to get to that point.

This is why.  3 justices will change hands.  Ginsburg has cancer.  Obama will be a powerful part of our lives for ... the rest of our lives.  Let's not let that happen again.

43

They better change those judicial robes to judicial burkas and I mean soon!

God I hope so. Seen her face?

But srsly, ugh.

It'll be interesting. I remember reading that she wrote an article in the mid-90s stating that she thought that potential SCOTUS justices should be requried to give substantive answers on their views on the constitution and other issues during the confirmation process.

Heh. Wonder if she'd be willing to be such a stand-up gal.

44 If she's White she's still an Oppressor.

45 At least Souter had experience. What does Kagan have, other than being a Clintonista who lingered at BHO's old haunts?

46 The first non Latino ghey on the bench!

Pssst, now who's being naive?

47 Harvard is not much of a recommedation. A lot of  their graduates are now serving prison terms or awaiting trial. A lot more have lost their license to practice law for various criminal acts. Two former (not by choice) lawyers are residing in the white house. Proof that crime does pay, and well.

48

Isn't it funny how Obama's team overreacted to the rumors about her sexuality?

I mean, really funny in that it was stupid as hell.

49

She doesn't have the intellectual firepower to be a liberal Scalia, and alter our understanding of the Constitution by dint of argument.

She also doesn't have the gravitas of Stevens. He could flip opinions. I'm doubtful she'll be able to replicate that feat in any significant way.

50 One good thing is that the Supreme Court does not respect her as SG.  Things have not gone her way in many cases, and they are very likely to find her annoying on the Court.  Their primary job is oversight over so many other judges.  It's a tough job for Justices with decades of experience as judges, who understand what it's like at different levels.

Kagan has no experience whatsoever, and should be compared to Miers.

She will be annoying to those on the Court now, in particular Kennedy.  I think, since we were replacing a liberal with another certain liberal, this is, at worst, another horrible missed opportunity.  If Mccain had been picked, well, Mccain would probably have picked some nutty choice so I have no argument ,,,'

Fucking mccain.

51 So no paper trail and Dean of Hahvahd?

Sounds like a stealth radical to me.  The only real skill she has shown is in politicking to get hired.

52 I bet the closeness of November gets GOP squishes to man up just enough to say "Sorry. Next?"

53

Hey, Elena, welcome to the Court!

Now go get me a coffee. Black.

54 This is a judge that doesn't follow the constitution what is more in your face than that?

55

'gina-- check

lesbo-- check check.

empathy gene---check check check

I'm just disappointed she's not a bi-racial, transgendered, club footed, hermaphrodite.

Fingers crossed on the dyslexia though!

56 I don;t care how "moderate" this benchwarmer is, let her confirmation drag out as long as possible so as to delay the rest of the Dhimmicrat agenda before November.

57 No courtroom experience.

No judicial experience.

None.  She's basically nothing more than a legal pundit.

58 She will be rejected.

59 Obama nominated this woman because she did him a favor and "cleansed his transcripts" she was the Dean of the Harvard law school.

60 58 She will be rejected.

Wish I could be so sure. One would hope, but the Senate is a cesspool.

61

She will be rejected.

Unless something explosive surfaces, I doubt it. But we can always hope.

 

62 I wonder if Kagan pisses standing up?

63 I agree she has zero judicial experience and (the past history of nominating non-judges aside) a person having at least been a judge, you know, once...has been pretty standard for a few decades now.  Everybody calling her inexperienced is perfectly right to do so.

So, don't let me stop anybody from doing that, but it's also not going to get us anywhere.  Everybody's going to see "Dean of Harvard Law School" and that will be enough.  We're not going to win this one.  Again, don't let me stop you, but just sayin'...

Okay, now I feel like Bob.

Sorry.

64 A couple of decisions as Dean and 18 months as Solicitor General makes you now qualified to be a Supreme Court Justice? Or did they stop the vetting at "Female"? I'm betting on the latter. It's ok to do that when you're a liberal.

65 She's seen more courtrooms on Law & Order than in real life.

66 rejected?  No, she'll walk through.

67

Why wouldn't she be the candidate?

She's the mirror image of Precedent Done Nothing, no?

 

68 60, Yeah, I know. It's only a guess. I just smell enough lameness on her part, weakness in the Democrat position, contempt for Easy Bake, and approaching massive GOP victory, to give GOP Senators the guts to say "No".

69 Does she know which end of the gavel to use?

70 Cracks me up that Kagan is almost perfectly the judicial equivalent of 0bama.

71 Is it just me, or does Kagan look disturbingly like Mike Myers in drag?

72 59 Obama nominated this woman because she did him a favor and "cleansed his transcripts" she was the Dean of the Harvard law school.

Posted by: dfdsfsdf at May 09, 2010 11:23 PM (Tfuib)

--Now that is an interesting theory.

73 71, Here's your topic: "Eighteenth Century Enlightenment and the First Amendment". Talk amongst yourselves.

74

Can we at least get some Celeb Reality show to give her a makeover for the Confirmation hearings??

I will need nausea meds just to even watch the recaps.

These lib scrunts go out of their way to not even try.

 

75 74, There had to be at least one hot babe Lesbian for Easy Bake to consider. I wonder if Worf purged them before he saw the list.

76 Kagan, Ginsburg, and the Wise Latina?  In one room?  It's hot...but....how am I supposed to focus?

77

#66

Agreed.  Could be worse too.  I guess.

78

There are simply no vacancies on the US Supreme Court right now! I'm a Lieutenant, dammit!

http://tinyurl.com/2ew6szc

79 She will be rejected.
Posted by: eman at May 09, 2010 11:22 PM (ONBbr)

Unless something shocking comes out we don't know about now, she'll get in the neighborhood of 70 votes (+/-5).

80

Wouldn't it be cool if she broke right?  Everybody always breaks left.  I'm sick of that.  

I dream like the wind.

81 79, I'm going for the long shot. I want my bet to pay off big time.

82

#79

74 is my guess here. 

83 The left will be disappointed that they didn't get an unabashed, in your face liberal. They want their own version of Scalia. Kagan ain't it.

I hope you're right.  Sometimes justices you think you know change pretty dramatically once they get to the Supreme Court.  Weren't several supposed to be conservative, and once appointed they turned out to be pretty moderate at best?

84

#80

Not cool man.

85 I would really love it if someone asked Kagan about Obama's grades.  Surely she knows about them since she hired him to teach ... and wasn't he rejected for a job, and then some friends made the right phone calls?

I think an issue could be made of that situation, at least questions asked and answered about it, to shed light on how such an inexperienced person could even be considered for such a major role on top of a political branch on lifetime appointment.

I'd like to know if Kagan was selected for her record as a jurist.  Her SG record is terrible.  As an academic, she has published less than most undergrad professors.  She's really terrible from all angles, figuratively I mean, and I think there's reason to ask her about her work with Obama.  How did HE get hired?  He had a terrible resume at the time.  Did someone urge his hiring?  What where his grades and recommendations?

And really, how did Kagan get her job at Harvard? 

Is this just a system where people from Chicago, with no qualifications, have managed to circle jerk eachother into higher and higher positions?

Yes.

86 Actually, that prediction in 79 should be 65 votes (+/-5)

She got 61 for Solicitor General. Specter voted no but he'll be a yes, Graham didn't vote but he'll be a yes,, Kennedy didn't vote but I bet Brown is a yes.

The worst part of this nomination is how boring it will be.

87 She'll eff up and say something really damaging during the hearings.

88 I think I read somewhere that she doesn't appear to be as left as Stevens, which would be nice.  Anyone know or remember that?

89 72 59 Obama nominated this woman because she did him a favor and "cleansed his transcripts" she was the Dean of the Harvard law school.

Posted by: dfdsfsdf at May 09, 2010 11:23 PM (Tfuib)

--Now that is an interesting theory.

Meh, I don't think the law school transcripts will show much.  Grades?  His grades were probably OK.  I'm sure he beguiled a lot of professors who were happy to give him an A.  (Besides, who flunks out of law school, especially Harvard?)  Would they show anything else?  Maybe that he took "Critical Race Theory I, II, III" and "Activism via the Judiciary" and "Alinsky and the Law" a few too many times.  Maybe his LSATs were embarrassing.

I think his undergraduate transcripts would be far more revealing.  Lots of very embarrassing course titles and mediocre grades, but that's just a guess.

90 I hope you're right.  Sometimes justices you think you know change pretty dramatically once they get to the Supreme Court
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 09, 2010 11:38 PM (eNxMU)

Yeah, but they don't get smarter. She'll vote the same as any hard lefty Obama could pick. She just won't write snappy opinions that rally the troops or serve as benchmarks for future judges like Scalia's opinions (majority and dissents) do.

91

#86

Boring?  Are you kiddin me?

92

Future WaPo headline:  Sotomeyer and Kagan Both Break Right

Don't beat it too hard.  And you're welcome.

93

#88

I do.  She could be worse.  Whatever.  From what I've read, she's slightly to the right of Stevens.  What does that mean though.  Who knows.  She was Obumble's best choice.  She will get thru pretty easily I suspect. 

94 Posted by: rdbrewer at May 09, 2010 11:39 PM (ArWGd)

Most of that is based on her defense of holding some detainees. She's made arguments about executive power both in her Solicitor General nomination and as SG.

How does that translate to her decisions as a judge? I bet not very well.

95

I think I read somewhere that she doesn't appear to be as left as Stevens, which would be nice.

Umm, no. Because she threw conservatives a bone by hiring a few at Harvard? Not much of a qualifier there.

This is really nothing more than yet another example of the left in general and Obama specifically indicating that exceptionalism no longer exists in this country. Lowest common denominator rears its ugly head again with this administration.

It's the highest court of the land. Yet he's treating it like a mock court session in high school where everyone gets  a turn to set up on high with a robe and gavel.

 

96 I have to admit the first time I saw a pic of Kagan I thought to myself;

"Man that chick would make a pretty good lookin dude"

97 NY Times has it as the lead.  Picture of her and her 4 chins. 

Reckon, thunder thighs Michelle will put her on a diet?

98 87 She'll eff up and say something really damaging during the hearings.

Not "really damaging" but she has lived a long time in the bubble.  She's likely to say something stupid.  She'd get confirmed, but Republicans would feel free to vote no.

The basic lines of attack are either "no experience" or the DADT military thing.  I'm thinking that Obama doesn't want DADT brought up again because he tiptoed up to it and then backed off.  But who knows?

99 She's 50 but on the other hand, she looks like she might have a run-in with a ham sandwich, a la Mama Cass.

100 One powerful set of q & a might come from having her comment on the rulings made by other folks who truly are qualified to join the SCOTUS.

101 Yeah, but they don't get smarter. She'll vote the same as any hard lefty Obama could pick.

Maybe.  Maybe she'll pull a Souter and 'grow in office'. 

With any justice you can look at their background and note (or guess) that they have a certain philosophy, and that there are also certain issues on which they'll bend that philosophy to mollify their own particular distastes.

So we've got a Scalia whose philosophy of constrained constitutional powers goes right in the crapper when states want to loosen pakalolo laws.

Kagan might turn out to be center-left with a buzz for gay-rights issues (supposing DADT was in fact her criteria for stiff-arming military recruiting) which would be a modest improvement over where we are now.

102

#100

Nice,

103 BTW, I note that she is not of African descent.

I have noticed that Barack Obama does not like any African-Americans in power who do not work directly for him.

Prediction: Kendrick Meek will "drop out" of the FL Senator's race before November.

104 Barack Obama to African Americans: Drop Dead.

105 I thought Kagan was really good in Paul Blart, Mall Cop.

106

#104

Amen.

And Crist will promise to caucus with the Dims.  Meeks is a non entity and the Dims know it.  He is toast. 

107 I thought the Kagan was really good in Highlander.

108 Meh, I don't think the law school transcripts will show much.  Grades?  His grades were probably OK.  I'm sure he beguiled a lot of professors who were happy to give him an A.  (Besides, who flunks out of law school, especially Harvard?)  Would they show anything else?  Maybe that he took "Critical Race Theory I, II, III" and "Activism via the Judiciary" and "Alinsky and the Law" a few too many times.  Maybe his LSATs were embarrassing.

I think his undergraduate transcripts would be far more revealing.  Lots of very embarrassing course titles and mediocre grades, but that's just a guess.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 09, 2010 11:40 PM (T0NGe)


Obama graduated magna from Harvard before Kagan was ever there.  For that to happen, it's pretty much set in stone that he had good grades and that Kagan had nothing to do with his HLS transcript.  Now, being on law review, he had access to the law review's outlines (basically class notes of professors that past law review members keep), so that gave him a leg up grade-wise, especially he apparently didn't do much, such as write a note, while he was on law review.  There is almost no chance his grades at HLS were whitewashed.  He had good grades, though he did get a decent leg up over other students with them.

As you're saying, he and his campaign made it clear everybody knew he graduated magna from Harvard and yet they didn't say anything similar about Columbia.  They didn't say he graduated summa, didn't say he graduated magna, or just cum laude.  Just nothing.  Given that and given that he already wrote that he "undoubtedly benefitted from affirmative action," I think it's pretty much a given his grades at Columbia left a lot to be desired.

109 Frankly, I thought Kagan had a really hot redheaded wife, but must have thick callouses on her feet from driving that stone-age car.

110 Why does Obama surround himself with such ugly chix? 

111 Her name spelled backward is "nagak."

112 Miers? Lightweight.

113 Danny Glover is next. I mean, the dude killed a Predator.

114

#111

Why do you think smartass?

115 Great. Another Harvard asshole. Payback for burying his transcripts?

116 Kagan hit 714 home runs, without steroids.

117 Obama graduated magna from Harvard before Kagan was ever there.  For that to happen, it's pretty much set in stone that he had good grades and that Kagan had nothing to do with his HLS transcript.

I've heard speculation that the second Obama was made president of HLR, he was going to be magna, no matter what.  It would have been unseemly otherwise.  I don't know if it's true.  I do know that at the schools I've been at, the right paperwork can change grades retroactively.  It isn't all that hard to do, especially if not too much time has passed.

118

#117

Bullchit.

119 She looks like a dyke. If she's not a dyke, I'll eat my shorts. Wtf? Just a few years ago, people like here were deviants and liable to EST. Skip the EST, but do they have to be on the SCOTUS?

120 I heard Kagan dated a whole warehouse of cardboard guys in HS, than started "experimenting" in college.

121 Diversity Advocates Object to Obama's Appointment of "Yet Another Total Dweeb" to the Supreme Court: tinyurl.com/23mndsl

122 Yeah, it's impossible to believe a dolt like Obama could have earned a magna cum-laude.

123 I hope they ask her what she thinks of the BSG ending.

124 I've heard speculation that the second Obama was made president of HLR, he was going to be magna, no matter what.  It would have been unseemly otherwise.

As liberal as it is, there would have been conservatives there who would have heard about that at some point if the liberals did and I have to think they would have piped up by now.  Yeah, I'll concede I'm essentially relying on guys like David Frum now, but it just seems too much for me--maybe I'm being naive.  Do you remember where you heard it or has it just been going around?

125 70 Cracks me up that Kagan is almost perfectly the judicial equivalent of 0bama. You made me shoot my Mt Dew out my nose!

126 126, I think they don't allow teleprompters in the SCOTUS.

127 I take this as a sign that the administration has somehow bowed to the reality that its socialist stomping might be a teeny bit unpopular at the moment.

128

Cracks me up that Kagan is almost perfectly the judicial equivalent of 0bama.

I suspect that Kagan is actually smart.

129 I'm going to be the hottest chick on the bench.

130 Do you remember where you heard it or has it just been going around?

Yeah, like I said, just speculation -- not even a proper rumor -- and I inferred that it wasn't all that organized.  The basic idea is: you're a HLS prof in the mid-80s, leftist as the day is long, do you want to be the one to give the golden child a bad grade?

He told us himself, he sought out the Marxist professors.  If he had a lot of leeway in his course selections, it's entirely possible that he wouldn't have chosen anyone who would have given him anything but HLS's "gentleman's A".  Grades in all graduate programs range from A to B.  Really.  A C is usually a failing grade, so a single grade will not kill your magna chances.

131 130 I'm going to be the hottest chick on the bench.

Posted by: The Not Impressive Sexist Latina at May 10, 2010 12:24 AM (ArWGd)

I think she'll finally get her second vote to have Old Country Buffet run the SCOTUS cafeteria.

132 @125 I thought Harvard at the time was pass/fail. We have a forced cure which blows at my state school, but there are some visiting students who get the whole P/F thing and it works out great for them. In the 80's at Harvard the school was overrun by Critical Legal Studies professors and they played kingmaker. The Critical Race Studies are an offshoot of CLS. Bambi was right at home.

133 Even in my state law school its hard to get a C. You really have to try at it. I'm awesome, I can manage without trying.

134

The Wise Latina is smokin hot compared to Kagan...cmon now....

(um, did I just type that?)

135

I can't say that I give a rat's ass if she's a lesbian or not.  That she didn't want military recruiters at Harvard says a lot about the Military wanting to recruit Harvard students!!

But I'm afraid that she's not so much in love with our Constitution as I would like and she had NO courtroom experience prior to becoming Obama's Solicitor General in '09.  THAT does trouble me; appellate judges - especially the SCOTUS Justices, know that they are supposed to rule only on the trial court record and their interpretation of the constitutionality of the issue(s) of law at hand.

That she is such a rookie at this should disqualify her for SCOTUS - at least Sotomayor was a trial lawyer and a trial judge and an Appellate Judge before going up to SCOTUS.

136 Hillary Clinton, Janet Napolitano, Sonia Sotomeyer, Elena Kagan, etc. ...., this wuusy in the White House apparently sees fat, ugly woman as his role models, and as his authority figures. Why am I not surprised? We've got a real mama's boy in the White House.

137 I thought Harvard at the time was pass/fail.

Are you thinking of Yale?

In the 80's at Harvard the school was overrun by Critical Legal Studies professors and they played kingmaker. The Critical Race Studies are an offshoot of CLS. Bambi was right at home.

Yeah, I'm guessing that Obama was all about the contacts.  And there really is no objectivity to grades.  Even a prof who isn't all that corrupt will sometimes bump a student up a grade for some intangible issues.  The cutoffs between grades are completely subjective.  But I don't know enough about Ivy League law schools to say more than what happens generally in academia.  I have heard that the grading is supposed to be blind.

138 That she is such a rookie at this should disqualify her for SCOTUS

Agreed.  Miers had far more courtroom experience, for example.

139 Posted by: AmishDude at May 10, 2010 12:24 AM (T0NGe)

See the reason I'm more skeptical about that is that law schools are hard-asses when it comes to the curve.  You can focus on seminars where they'll go easy on you and anybody intent on graduating with a high GPA would have done that, but he would have had to have taken some large classes where the attitude towards students in general is "no, f' you, this is the curve and we aren't giving everybody As."

Those classes are also supposed to have blind grading.  Yeah, quit laughing, no really they're supposed to have blind grading.

Harvard had a much easier curve.  Barely any students would have gotten Cs, so you would have gotten grades that looked good on paper no matter what you did, but to get in the top 10% (or whatever inflated amount counted as magna there in the 80s), he would have had to get a better GPA than 90% of the students.  Your career prospects in law school also depend mostly on your grades during your first year, so, already having law review under his belt, it isn't really the end of the world if he doesn't graduate with honors.  Just for show...just given his position as the golden child...I guess I might see it, but I'm just really inclined against it.  Oh well, I hadn't heard of it prior to this so I'll dig around myself.

140 Kagan and Spade were great in Tommy Boy.

141 This loosely relates to the story:

NBC blows, and f*** you if you work for them.  You're scum.

142

I didn't know Adam Sandler's lunchlady will be nominated to the SC...

143

#141

Big time!

144

law schools are hard-asses when it comes to the curve.

Naa.  Maybe some.  Some are hard ass about attempting objectivity, but you have individual professors who find ways to find out who's who.  If they can't generate the mental horsepower to work to be objective, they aren't qualified to teach.

I've heard of "the gentleman's C" at Harvard. 

145 What I always thought weird about obama was that you rarely see an interview with someone who sat in a class with him in college, even as a human interest story, or in a fluff piece about him.  Its almost like his whole background is totally made up.  In fact I have seen interviews of people in groups he was supposed to have joined, but no one remembers him and he's not in any pictures.

Weird.  A Kagan seems backgroundless too.

146 Obama didn't release his grades for a reason.  This asshole was coddled and helped along by slobbering white liberals his whole life.

147 If handled well, we can kill Obama with this. The WH, a few weeks ago, denied her being Gay. I couldn't care less that she is. If "we"/GOP'rs say loudly that we don't care, but put WH in the position of denying the truth of her life choice reality again, that will flatten out loon left vote like little else but starting a new "war". I hope we can balance our desire to support Individual Rights and only make fun of Barry for both pandering to a typical Dem sliver of the pie Group while denying that Kagan a member of that group.... while he offers NO real support for Don't Ask Don't Tell and Gay marriage. My step daughter a Gay person living in WeHo (new term I just learned for West Hollywood) and is less impressed/doesn't give a rip about Barry anymore. Let's not change that dynamic around, eh?

148 And yes, NoHo stand for North Hollywood. Oh well... and so it goes...

149 @145, I'd change that to most, not some.  In fact, almost all of them attempt to grade with anonymity.  It's in the ivy league I've heard many feel they are above mere grading.

150 Yale Law School hasn't had (standard) grades since the 70s.  The grades are H(onors), P(ass), L(ow Pass) and F(ail) - but Fs are unheard of, and you have to sort of try to get an L - or have a panic attack during a test, something like that.

Harvard and Stanford Law schools, rounding out the top 3, just switched to a similar H/P grading system last year.  But where YLS doesn't have a fixed curve and the H/P ratio, whether to blind grade, etc., is totally up to the individual professor there, I understand that at HLS and SLS there is a fixed standard for Hs and Ps.

Since YLS grades are so weird, I've heard employers literally count how many Ps applicants got and rank them that way, while realizing that this means very little (other than for the few students who graduate with all or almost all Hs, who are the SCOTUS clerkship set) ...

151

I guess I might see it, but I'm just really inclined against it.  Oh well, I hadn't heard of it prior to this so I'll dig around myself.

My theory has always been that Obama's transcripts are not released because of the course titles, not for the grades.

Is it possible to award a magna independent of grades?  I know that's the way they're always awarded, but it is an award, after all.  It is possible that the law school has carte blanche as to how all awards are chosen.  They could just give one to anybody they like, for example, as an award for being HLR president.

The HLR editor used to be the student with the best grades, but shortly before Obama got there, it was turned into a elected position, a president, presumably with the intention of getting a woman or minority into the position. 

So I think the previous editors had received cum laude awards naturally.  This would explain why there would be motivation to award something to the HLR president.

Still, I agree with you that it seems unlikely, it's idle speculation and would have happened long before Kagan showed up with her threadbare CV to become Dean.

152 I've heard speculation that the second Obama was made president of HLR, he was going to be magna, no matter what.  It would have been unseemly otherwise.  I don't know if it's true.  I do know that at the schools I've been at, the right paperwork can change grades retroactively.  It isn't all that hard to do, especially if not too much time has passed.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 10, 2010 12:04 AM (T0NGe)

I would assume that, after he was made Precedent of the Law Review, professors (who were inclined to treat him in class the same way the MFM treats him, now - it's almost impossible the count of the utter stupidities he's stuttered through that they have totally ignored, versus the few gaffes by Dan Quayle that they hung onto for more than a decade) were pumping up whatever his grades already were.  When I was in grad school, a "B" was pretty darn crappy.  The fact that he only made magna, and not summa, as Precedent of the Law Review, is pretty pathetic, really, and shows how contrived his election was.

I don't assign any malevolent motivations to the professors. They're just idiots who are moved by skin and preserving the Hah-vahd name.  Can't have a Precedent of the Law Review, written up by the New York Slimes, just barely making it through.  It would only be years later that the world would be confronted with how incredibly stupid Mr. "profit and earnings ratios" ... Mr. "reduce premiums by 3000%" is, and then the MFM would cover for him, anyway.

153 With his lip-smacking and with his prissiness as he talks, I'll bet that,  when Obama gets together with a bunch of women, they think of him as one of the girls ..., probably another reason why the leaders of other country's consider him to be a joke.  He should be an embarrassment to all Americans, and especially to black men. He's our first effeminate president, too.

154

She'll eff up and say something really damaging during the hearings.

She could hardly do worse than Sotomayor. Good lord was she a bumbling idiot up there. Really, really pathetic. Kagan will likely sound like a genius compared to Sodapop.

155 Posted by: AmishDude at May 10, 2010 12:04 AM (T0NGe)

BTW, in the wake of the sit-ins and such at HLS, they changed the grading system (around the same time they changed the procedure for picking editors and the President of the review) so that professors were allowed more subjectivity in their grading.  They were pretty explicit about doing all this to enhance minority representation adn performance, much as they still argue for their program for special tutoring programs only for minorities and women, with special access to the professors.  Harvard is absolutely shameless with all this crap.

156 I've heard of "the gentleman's C" at Harvard.

You're giving him too much credit--"Gentleman's C" is 1950s stuff.  I think the average GPA there was something on the order of a 3.5 before they got rid of grades a couple years ago (make yourselves more indistinguishable and get rid of inflated grades right when the recession hits...awesome idea!...somebody should get a couple unemployed Harvard grads to ask Kagan about that).  Unless he was caught sleeping with the professor's wife, yeah, there was no way he or just about anybody else was getting a C.  I mention blind grading with sarcasm also, but I did run into a decent number of professors when I was in school who clearly took it seriously.

My theory has always been that Obama's transcripts are not released because of the course titles, not for the grades.

I agree, though the guy could still give his class rank, honors, etc., which is why I'd still bet just about anything his undergrad grades were nothing remotely impressive.

157 Barry was too busy making friends at Harvard to study: From Sun Times, and his other best buddy, Tony Rezko, involved: E-mails and other records of Dr. Eric Whitaker -- one of President Obama's best friends -- have been subpoenaed by a federal grand jury, the Chicago Sun-Times has learned. The investigation involves "faith-based initiatives" and health-awareness campaigns funded by the Illinois Department of Public Health when Whitaker ran the agency for former Gov. Rod Blagojevich, according to copies of subpoenas obtained under the state's Freedom of Information Act. Obama has said he recommended Whitaker for that job, which Whitaker landed in April 2003. The president's friend resigned in October 2007 to join Obama's wife, Michelle, as an executive at the University of Chicago Medical Center. ---------------------------------- Whitaker, 45, of Chicago, met Obama when the two were in graduate school at Harvard. He often traveled with the president on the campaign trail and has vacationed with him in Hawaii. In 2003, Obama -- then an Illinois state senator, gave a "glowing" reference for Whitaker to Tony Rezko -- the now-convicted political fixer who helped Blagojevich find people to run state agencies. Obama has said that's the only time he can recall talking to Rezko -- who was a major campaign fund-raiser for him and for Blagojevich -- about getting anyone a state job. "Somebody who I do remember talking directly to Tony about was Dr. Eric Whitaker," Obama told the Sun-Times in March 2008. "He and I played basketball together when he was getting his master's in public health at Harvard, while I was in law school there. He had expressed an interest in that job. I did contact Tony, or Tony contacted me, and I gave him a glowing recommendation because I thought he was outstanding." http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/2250646,CST-NWS-whitaker09.article

158 Kagan NFL 11 to be released in August, with Drew Brees on the cover.

159

C?  Obama promised me a gentlemans B+

160

I'm waiting for the movie version of the hearings starring Kathy Bates as Elena Kagan.

A special guest appearance by Horatio Sanz as Sotomayor is in the works.

161 From Harvard Crimson: Constitutional law expert Laurence H. Tribe ’62, who has argued over 30 cases before the Supreme Court, gave a similarly glowing endorsement of Kagan’s abilities. He pointed to her deft handling of a politically and philosophically divided faculty as evidence for her future success as solicitor general. “If it were anyone other than Elena Kagan, then a lack of experience would be a problem,” he said. Tribe employed both Kagan and Obama as research assistants during their time at Harvard Law School, which did not overlap. In recent years, Tribe has generously praised Kagan and emerged as a close adviser to Obama. http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2009/1/7/kagan-picked-for-dc-post-harvard/

162 Someone should make an Obama stupid gaffe reel.

163 Stupid gaffes as opposed to smart gaffes.

164 My wife saw a picture of Kagan and did not believe she was a woman. Not by birth anyway.

165 The highlight of the hearings will be the surprise discovery of an Elena Kagan sex tape in which a nude Kagan is seen giving Ruth Bader Ginsburg a sponge bath.

166 Go on making fun of lesbians, Republicans.

The Democrats will take 20 more seats in November.

167 Maybe Barry will pull a Tiger, who walked off course today, when the Legislative Branch falls to GOP in November. And, I have not doubt a drooler like "crapflagon" will assume that my question RACIST. Go Bears!!

168

I'd still bet just about anything his undergrad grades were nothing remotely impressive.

It's fairly obvious he didn't merit the placement.

169 #165 Birther!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

170

Kagan reportedly working on a new album: Bat Out Of Hell IV: The Supreme Court

 

171 Well, she's gay and she's a woman, which is great, but she's also white, which is horrible. Maybe we can put lots of spay on tan on her and pretend she's hispanic.

172 Only One word to characterize such a great post “WOW” that was a very interesting read
such a wonderful information for me..i am really impress it.

173

Go on making fun of lesbians, Republicans.

We're making fun of Obama and ugly chix, retard.  There are a lot of gay AoS fans.  They don't occupy some special position here where one must dance around the issues in order not to offend.  And one of the cob loggers is gay.

But I understand why it's necessary for you to think of it that way.  It reinforces your hatred.  It strokes your emotion-driven limbic decison-making.  After all, life is full of black and white good guys and bad guys, just like cops and robbers you saw on TV as a child.  And now that you've thrown out your little insult, you've told yourself (subconsciously) you don't have to consider the merits of any argument made here.  Party on, dummy.

174 When you subsidize poverty and failure, you get more of both. – James Dale Davidson, National Taxpayers Union

175 Oh, and the pussy R's in Washington won't put even the semblance of a fight, they'll leap frog each other to be the first to put a lesbian on the court, politically correct cowards every last one of them, fuck 'em all.

176 Oh, crapflagon, I forgot to acknowledge the superiority your psychological makeup requires you to put on display.  You are on another level, man. 

177 I saw a picture of Kagan and thought she was wearing an Edith Bunker Halloween costume.

178 Dack, you forgot to make fun of her lesbianism again.

179

OT:

Lena Horne died at age 92.

180 167 Go on making fun of lesbians, Republicans.

The Democrats will take 20 more seats in November.

Posted by: crapflagon at May 10, 2010 01:24 AM (Mmw0q)

 

What a bizarre rationale.

 

Tattoo Duh Plane? Sentient Nintendo? Is that you?

181

Dack, you forgot to make fun of her lesbianism again.

Now, now. We don't know for a fact that she's a lesbian. All we know is that she is one. I mean, when you're sporting basically the same coif as Rachel Maddow, well, there you go.

182

Meet the Press: "This is a damn outrage"

183

More reason to repeal the 17th amendment, so the states take back the Senate

1913 was the end of States Rights, with 16 (Fed income Tax) and 17, the Beast gained power, and food.

184 I've often thought Meet the Press is an outrage. Especially since David Gregory took over.

185

I do hope dummy didn't leave.  S/he should stick around and learn something.

Here's a lesson about subjectivity, dummy:  Just because you have a tendency to see what you want to see rather than what is actually there doesn't mean Democrats will pickup 20 seats in November.  Now, imagine growing up and perceiving the world with objectivity going forward.  If you don't, you're more limbic and less neo-cortex, more animal and less human.

186 Dummy's an ideology bigot.

187 I think Kagan shouldn't even be considered for a SCOTUS position until she personally stops the oil spill in the Gulf.

188 I think crapwagon's a froll

189

Kagan announces she will no longer be Michael Moore's stunt double, citing back problems.

190 In some Eastern European countries, mothers scare their children into behaving by telling them that a monster known as the Kagan will grab them out of their beds and devour them if they don't shape up.

191 #187 - Ýä ÊÇíã ÃŸÃ¦ÃŸÃŠÃ­Ã¡ Ã£Ã‡Ã“äÌÑ and furthermore,  Ïáíá ãæÇÞÚ to you, too.

192 Why do some people even care what nominees for any office look like or whether they are gay or straight? Some frat boys seems to be out in force on this thread, and thanks to the guys and gays on the thread who don't have the frat boy mentality.

193 Google tells me that crapflagon and logprof share an IP address.  Hmmm....

194 "Lena Horne died at age 92." Was she a lesbian?

195 I think crapwagon's a froll

Posted by: logprof at May 10, 2010 01:57 AM (Mmw0q)

Don't stop brewer.  He's on a roll.

196 If you press 1 + 2 on controller one at least ten times straight on the first screen of level four before either player moves you get unlimited 1UPs!!!!111!!!

197 Kagan's fraternity nickname: Flounder.

198 How does Barry get out of this? Or, good luck spinning this one MFM. OK, as a given, the lovely Ms. Kagan fought the military on using the Harvard campus and mailing list for recruitment purposes because of her disdain for "Don't Ask Don't Tell - or so she is quoted as saying. She did this while everyone BUT Barry Obama, and whoever programs his Teleprompter, recognizes Ms. Kagan's life choice to pursue her preference for women. Barry and WH, when rumor of her nomination get discussed a few weeks ago, even FEELS it's necessary to come out and deny that she is Gay. A Prez and WH who pretend to support Gay Rights, but behind the scenes do nothing but direct their lawyers to cancel advances made by Log Cabin Republicans, etc. denying a Gay persons being Gay? Hmmmmm? OK, it's obvious that Barry is a 24/7 politician. Ms. Kagan is being nominated to assuage the anger/get votes from the Gay community and left. But, if Barry is denying her gayness, then let's play "Who's the Bigot"... and play it hard and fast. Let Joe Klein swirl that around his big brain for a bit. ps. I could have, to appeal to some asshat troll, but in the Seinfeld disclaimer... yet, with our Post Everything Prez, I figured I'd be cool without doing so... yeah, right...

199 Why do some people even care what nominees for any office look like or whether they are gay or straight? Some frat boys seems to be out in force on this thread, and thanks to the guys and gays on the thread who don't have the frat boy mentality.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 10, 2010 02:07 AM (KkrUE)

The funny thing is with all the bitching, there's a good chance the opposite is happening.  There's good reason to believe we've already had a gay Supreme Court Justice, David Souter, the guy who's leaving.  Besides the previous rumors--a guy goes jogging in DC in a park at 5:00 in the morning; gets beat up; the other guy gets caught; and yet they didn't press charges?  What do you think was happening, idiots?

The rumors about Kagan were pretty widespread with little pushback, so the White House shouldn't be too surprised that people assume it, but as long as we're dealing in this stuff it's been tossed around for an equally long time that Souter was gay.

200 I make thee best Feesh Tacos!

201

BTW, during the debate today between California's Republican Senatorial Candidates Chuck Devore, Tom Campbell and Carly Fiorina, all three of them made pretty good showings.

But there was a disclosure about Carly Fiorina which has never been mentioned by the MSM, and which is that apparently when Ms. Fiorina was the CEO of Hewlett-Packard, she pulled a cutesy stunt, authorizing her subordinates to get around a ban and to sell large quantities of computers, printers, spare parts and other supplies to Syria and to Iran; further evidence that the woman is an unscrupulous, two-faced, back-stabbing sleaze who gets jobs by affirmative action, not by being qualified..

202 Kagan's fraternity nickname: Flounder.

Posted by: Moron with popcorn under his Snuggie at May 10, 2010 02:19 AM (FD3EH)

 

"And... Clayton. Sidney. Jugears, Mohammet, Lonny."

"We already met."

"Super! Then you'll have lots to talk about, even though you seem to have written nothing in your life, thus far."

203

Shivas, I read something about a  CBS story today that was pulled w/o comment.  Maybe a blog story.  It was because the whitehouse wanted it.  I don't care who she screws, but it seems like Obama went overboard denying the (unsupported?) allegation.  I just skimmed, but I think someone at CBS repeated or reported the allegation.  (I use "allegation" lightly.)  (Because who gives a flying fuck on a rolling doughnut, anyway?)  (That's like saying "alleged overeating.")  (I do so love parenthesis.)  Anyway, yeah, it does seem weird on Obama's part.  Seems like a controversy generated out of thin air.  And I don't know why.  So. Because of Obama's big attack and denial, now I'd like to know if she's gay.  Why?  So I can kick it around with all the other political footballs.

I guess I'll unlazy myself and go back and actually read about the controversy.

204

she pulled a cutesy stunt, authorizing her subordinates to get around a ban and to sell large quantities of computers, printers, spare parts and other supplies to Syria and to Iran

What's wrong with that?  Sounds like what a good, zealous boss would do--represent the company and stockholders as much as she can. 

205 I don't care who she screws, but it seems like Obama went overboard denying the (unsupported?) allegation. 

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 10, 2010 02:38 AM (ArWGd)

He always pulls this shit, and he always gets away with it.  It's amazing, really.  It's like being trapped inside a giant imbecile's brain.

206 POP, I wonder if crapweasel will now come back and attack Obama for diminishing lesbians by acting shamefully--with apparent shame--over the issue.

207

#206 - If not illegal, it was certainly unethical and sleazy, in view of the ban against selling technology to those particular countries ..., kind of like when Clinton authorized the sale of missle technology to Communist China. C'mon redbrewer, that's a no-brainer.

 

208 missile tech ‚ printer spare parts

209 Ahem.  That was a does not equal sign at one point in time.

210 The Pennsylvania primary is May 18th... if Specter loses I wonder if he'll vote against Kagan...

211 "My wife saw a picture of Kagan and did not believe she was a woman. Not by birth anyway."

Yeah, she looks like a cross of Chaz Bono and Susan Boyle...

212

There is simply no evidence that a company called "Hewlett-Packard" exists! I have a track record, dammit!!!111

http://tinyurl.com/2ew6szc

213

Whitehouse upset over out of the closet rumor, says she isn't.

Yeah, odd thing to get upset about.  I still don't know if she's gay or not, but it's funny to see the whitehouse thinking "out of the closet" is a negative accusation to be attacked.  If they're going to be jumpy, they need to take their finger off the trigger.

214

O/T, okay, I'm going to tell that really funny joke again:  "Eric Holder, intellectual."

HA!

215

O/T, okay, I'm going to tell that really funny joke again:  "Eric Holder, intellectual."

HA!

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 10, 2010 03:03 AM (ArWGd)

"President . . . Barack Obama!" [laugh track]

216 "further evidence that the woman is an unscrupulous, two-faced, back-stabbing sleaze who gets jobs by affirmative action, not by being qualified.. Posted by: A Casual Observation"


See, I think her time at HP show she was sleazy and I even grant the plausibility of back stabbing, but she was qualified for her work then, and she did a hell of a job at it.

I don't know about this Iranian computer thing.  I'll have to look into it, but I think such things should be prosecuted and suspect there's some explanation (if there isn't, I'm asking her for a refund of my donation).

I like fiorina because she has a record of saying the hard truth to a hostile board and fixing seriously tough problems.  Her methods got her kicked out, but her plan saved the ship and I think she's a more realistic contender who would be an improvement over Boxer.

Nothing against her competitors in the primary, who are not as electable in my view.

217 Agree with the 1st comment, Kagan, or perhaps Cass Sunstein, is about the best we can expect out of this petty, pissy, prancing, preening peacock of a President.

I think her sex life is her business.  Having seen her picture, I hope she keeps her business private.

218 So, anyway, Teddy Kennedy and I were walking on the beach one night talking about health care, and Elena Kagan passed us walking the other way.  Ted said, "Man, that was one ugly woman!"

I rebuked him, saying, "Now, don't say that, she might be a great lay - you know that beauty is only skin deep."

Ted shot back, "Fine, let's skin her."

I miss that old boy, he was a hoot.  Especially with a fifth of Chivas and a pair of waitresses.

219 Europe is throwing a trillion dollars (equivalent) at its problems.  But they are still only going to get worse.  Markets cheer the free money and rush back into risky investments.

Yay!  More time has been bought and the problem still festers.

220 ECB is buying Euro bonds.  More brilliance from the finance masters.

221 No flaming skull!?

222 Have Kagan and Fred Flintstone ever been seen in the same place at the same time?  Just curious.

223 "(I use "allegation" lightly.) (Because who gives a flying fuck on a rolling doughnut, anyway?) (That's like saying "alleged overeating.") (I do so love parenthesis.)" Creatively stated; Cheers for making it fun to be "here".

224 #221 Sweet riff. Including The Floater always scores style points with me. Cheers.

225 WAIT A MINUTE!!!!!!! That sure looks like Janet's love child or is the wine corked tonight?

226 SHIIIINOLA. Pre-Flight the bird and alert Idaho bunker-green ...........

227 "further evidence that the woman is an unscrupulous, two-faced, back-stabbing sleaze who gets jobs by affirmative action, not by being qualified.. Posted by: A Casual Observation"

Affirmative action is racial profiling.

228 Michelle Malkin continues to hate: Dean KaganÂ’s nomination to the Supreme Court would be concerning given her complete lack of judicial or appellate experience. She has never been a judge or even argued a case in a court of appeals. It is difficult to see how her experience fundraising for Harvard Law School qualifies her for a seat on the NationÂ’s high court. Tolerance now, Man!

229

Ellen  Allen Kagan.

 

FIFY

230

I'd hit th-

Wait. When's my tee time?

231 @203

HP was a bunch of stupid white guys.  They didn't know what they hell they were doing.  It wasn't until I came along that they started selling stuff to those off-white guys (who aren't quite a stupid and incapable as white guys are, but still).

C'mon, all I did was give a little aid to them.  And maybe a little comfort if they loaded up solitaire.  And so what if they use our printers to print out photos of dissidents to be rounded up?  I made money for my company (although I kinda ran the place into the ground, but still).

But none of these things are important to California.  What is important is that you ignorant sheeple conservatives, vote for me because I am a woman.

232 Is this where the morning crowd went to?

233 I particularly liked her in the role of the albino in "The Princess Bride."

234 Mama Cass to join the Supremes

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236 Is Chaz Bono really qualified to be on the SCOTUS?

237 This whole "lesbian" thing is a perfect example of the difference between the Right and the Left.  We really don't give a damn if she is gay or straight.  We care that she's a lightweight.  The Left is spun up about identity politics and what people will think, so they have to go full-on retard denying it because they are afraid people will care, even if it pisses off another part of their base.

238 Mama Cass to join the Supremes Unlike Elena Kagan, I was accomplished in my field.

239

Goddammit..THIS has my blood boiling. Seniors in Georgia elderly care facility are told they cannot pray before meals because the food is subsidized by the federal government.

I am going to write to Miss Lindsey Graham and the other real Republicans on the judiciary committee to demand they put this in a question to Mr. Allen Kagan.

Fuck..seriously pissed off here

240 I would have thought Obama would have nominated a woman this time around.

241 100% safe pick for both sides.  No better and no worse than who she is replacing.

242

# 248

You can bet if they were Muslim and wanted to wash their feet in the sink before they prayed, nothing would be said.

243 Kagan looks kind of man-ish...

244 Quick question. Not that it means anything what so ever, but it Kagan Jewish?

245 254 Quick question. Not that it means anything what so ever, but it Kagan Jewish?

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 10, 2010 08:47 AM (0GFWk)

 

I read somewhere that she was raised in a Jewish house, but nothing other than that.

246 I read somewhere that she was raised in a Jewish house, but nothing other than that. Posted by: Johnnyreb at May 10, 2010 08:51 AM (cqZXM) Yeah it's funny that there is no mention of that? Oh I guess another liberal progressive that has sworn off religion ha?

247 It must be frustrating for the CodePinkos and KosKids that they're not gonna be able to get a "better" Judge than Stevens. I personally detest the choice. Not because of any nuanced legal analysis, of course. Simply because of the ROTC thing. I'm 100% sure she'd bend over backward to allow some kid from a favored class to use my (or your) money to go to college. But if that same person wants to serve his country in exchange for the same education, she goes out of her way to obstruct him. And for a completely tangential political issue that the prospective students have NOTHING to do with. Makes me confident she'll be the worst kind of "activist Judge", at least in matters military.

248 Out, damned sock!

249 Makes me confident she'll be the worst kind of "activist Judge", at least in matters military. Because I have never been a judge before, I will need to acquire some experience before I am good at judicial activism.

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251 So, Easy Bake covers woman, Hispanic, and gay in his first two picks.

What will be next?

Wookie. Right when his term is up and it looks like he won't get reelected.

252 I would rather see his college and grad school financial records, myself.

253

That guy Obama wnts to nominate to the Supreme court looks familiar. Where did that guy work before?

254 I keep seeing the name Kagan, and thinking Mask of Command/Face of Battle -- then I slap myself and wonder if I poured from the decaf pot.

255 Hey, I think she a nice A$$. Both of them....

256 Damn! You put some glasses on "it" and you get "Pat" from SNL!!

257 Obama nominated this woman because she did him a favor and "cleansed his transcripts" she was the Dean of the Harvard law school.

Posted by: dfdsfsdf at May 09, 2010 11:23 PM (Tfuib)

That was my immediate thought. Of course, I doubt she would have brought any incriminating information to light, because I think it must have been big, not just favoritism or embarrassing grades.

Remember Percy Sutton's comments? The Dean of Harvard would know how Obama got into Harvard -- legacy student, foreign exchange student or just a direct order from a Saudi prince with deep ties in our intelligence community. If there was a smoking gun, she would have seen it.

There was also John O. Brennan, Assistant to the President and Deputy National Security Adviser for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism, who saw Obama's passport during the election. The guy working for him died, and he got promoted. Brennan is a loose cannon. He made a speech in front of a crowd of Islamic law students, in Arabic, where he compared terrorists to shoplifters. There were calls for him to be fired.

It's not like Obama hasn't paid people off who have incriminating stories about him. There is probably significant dirt on our Manchurian President. Stuff that would make Clinton look like a choir boy. Speaking of which, Obama probably had them killed, too.

258 253 Kagan looks kind of man Jew-ish...

Just sayin'

259 Harris was the guy working for Brennan. Shot in the head, in his car, in front of his church. Donald Young was also murdered.  He claimed he attended a support group for gays at TUCC, and that he was "intimate" with Obama. This came up with the Larry Sinclair allegations. Two other young black men that attended the same church—Larry Bland and Nate Spencer—were also murdered execution style with bullets to the backs of their heads—all within 40 days of each other, beginning in November 2007.

260

It would never happen but my criteria would be:

1) Currently serving on a state court level, preferably a state Supreme Court

2) Not a graduate of an Ivy League law school, nor ever worked for them

3) Extensive previous experience in private practice

4) Member of Federalist Society or similar conservative legal group

5) Must be anti-Roe V Wade rulings

 

261 Oh and 6) Married with children

262 First we got a dodo, now we get an enema. Neither of which can read the US Consitution. That's progressives for you. Dumb socialists.

263 Her lesbianism is also a problem.

I really don't give a damn if she is a carpet muncher.  What gets me is that she is most likely just another communist who believes in a rubber Constitution. 

The Republicans should fight this tooth and nail because the Dems do that EVERY damn time and especially when there is a nominee with no record.

We know how that works, no record means drift left. With a commie nominee that means they start out left and drift into bat shit crazy.

264 I disagree that you can't get a lot of mileage out of her contempt for the military.  Obviously, in her circles, the military is held in little regard and is hated.  On a national scale, it is held in high regard.  Shove her nose in her position.

265

So she's a radical leftist with absolutely no experience for the job. That sounds a lot like someone else in Washington.

266 I disagree that you can't get a lot of mileage out of her contempt for the military. Obviously, in her circles, the military is held in little regard and is hated. On a national scale, it is held in high regard. Shove her nose in her position. Posted by: ed at May 10, 2010 10:18 AM (Urhve) That would take Republicans with balls, and last I looked they don't have any.

267 Sticking with my long shot: she will be rejected.

268 So she's a radical leftist with absolutely no experience for the job. That sounds a lot like someone else in Washington. Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 10, 2010 10:19 AM (1Jai Yeah and look how well that has worked out? Oh G-D we're all gonna die!

269 Posted by: ed at May 10, 2010 10:18 AM (Urhve)

Hear, hear.  Kagan's position against the military was unconscionable and totally indefensible.  This should be enough for the GOP to not allow the worm out of committee, but of course, we have Lady Lindsey on the judiciary committee, so there's little chance of that.  I would like to see Grahamnesty thrown out of the GOP caucus in order to take away his power to allow Kagan through committee, as he did with the empathetic, wise Latina.

Kagan should also be pounded about affirmative action racism at Harvard during her tenure and how she loves the marxist concept of 'race, class, gender' and will likely take such idiocy to the Court with her.

270 Obama seems to be drawn to lesbians like he's, you know, a lesbian.

271 273 253 Kagan looks kind of man Jew-ish...

Just sayin'

Posted by: Barbarian at May 10, 2010 09:34 AM (EL+OC)

 

So does Janet Incompetano.

 

So does the Wise Latina (think Noriega in drag).

 

So did Janet Reno.

 

Detect a pattern? 

272 286 Obama seems to be drawn to lesbians like he's, you know, a lesbian.

Posted by: alppuccino at May 10, 2010 10:23 AM (HC9nf)

 

Are you saying Obama is a Lesbian trapped in a Muslim body?

273 GOP approach to Kagan = otherize her as a troop-hating, gay-loving elitist who wrote a thesis about socialism, right?

Snap.Out.Of.It.

274 One thing is for sure she's more manly than Barry. Of course so is his wife Aunt Ester. Barry must have a thing for butch women.

275 "Obama also said the law is more than words on paper. A truly scary thought from a President."

There's that Constitutional scholarship again.

At least he's being consistent in proving he didn't learn anything while someone spent a lot of money for it.

And we now get an inexperienced Justice to go with an inexperienced President. Hooray! We're screwed.

276 OT:

Anyone else still keep up with Zero Hedge?   I check them off and on, the last week has had some pretty dark stuff.  Stuff like don't keep your money in banks and now you better odds in Las Vegas that you have making money with your E-Trade account.

I think it is all a little over the top.  What say you?

277 Sticking with my long shot: she will be rejected.

Hahahqahaha; when have the Republicans ever got up back bone and voted to block ANY damn Dem nominee. 

278 Obama nominated Kagan because she was outstanding in her field.  In fact, that's where he found her, out standing in a field...of moo-cows.

279 That would take Republicans with balls, and last I looked they don't have any.


Check the women.

280 At least he's being consistent in proving he didn't learn anything while someone spent a lot of money for it.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 10, 2010 10:27 AM (swuwV)

The Precedent did learn (which is unusual for him).  He learned that he can promote the most un-Constitutional, un-American idea of empathy being the most important quality in a justice and still get idiots in the GOP to go soft on the pathetic nominee and have the empathetic imbecile get onto the Court without much resistance, at all.

Thanks to all the GOP shitheads and pundits who were so scared that the GOP would oppose the insane empathetic, wise Latina - who never should have been allowed within earshot of the SCOTUS.

281 Sam "now you better odds in Las Vegas that you have making money with your E-Trade account" -- that may not be too far off.

282 Obama nominated Kagan because she was outstanding in her field. In fact, that's where he found her, out standing in a field...of moo-cows. Posted by: Speller at May 10, 2010 10:31 AM (o0R2E) Was that her in the "Revenge of the Nerds"?

283 292, Nowhere near fluent in these things, but it seems the EU with it's slashed femoral artery is getting a band-aid and a cigarette from the US via the IMF.

284 You are right-it's hypothetical mileage.  We have hatch and Graham on our side. 

285 Obama also said the law is more than words on paper. A truly scary thought from a President.

That was just the same stupid argument he made for the empathetic, wise Latina and she sailed right onto the Court (thanks to squishy "conservatives" who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground). 

This is nothing new from the Indonesian Imbecile, and the Senate judiciary committee has already given its blessing for this type of reasoning in choosing justices.

286 Obama also said the law is more than words on paper. A truly scary thought from a President.

He has said that repeatedly.  The Constitution doesn't have the words in it he likes so it means NOTHING to him. It is painfully obvious since every bill that he has pushed since he came in office is unconstitutional.

We need congress so we can impeach the jug-eared lying SOB. 

287 293, Yeah, Vic, I know. But think of the payoff: free value-rite for one year and an autographed hump-pic.

288 We now know what Ferris Bueller grew up to look like. 

289 Jean,

I just don't buy it.  I know 3 people who make their money as day traders.  They are still doing their thing...

Things are bad, and are looking to stay bad for some time.  But the complete collapse of our economic/financial system?

290 >>>I just don't buy it.  I know 3 people who make their money as day traders.  They are still doing their thing...

Volatility is great for day traders.

>>>Things are bad, and are looking to stay bad for some time.  But the complete collapse of our economic/financial system?

Posted by: Sam at May 10, 2010 10:36 AM (Cxsey)

Worse.  The complete collapse of our monetary system, which also happens to be the monetary system the world is built on and which cannot be abondoned nor replaced.

291 Things are bad, and are looking to stay bad for some time. But the complete collapse of our economic/financial system? Posted by: Sam Panicking human beings doing the absolute worst thing at the absolute worst time in the absolute worst way could do it.

292 Panicking human beings doing the absolute worst thing at the absolute worst time in the absolute worst way could do it.


So it's 99.44% certain.

293 "...human beings doing the absolute worst thing at the absolute worst time in the absolute worst way could do it..." Let's leave Bill Buckner alone.

294 #303  We need congress so we can impeach the jug-eared lying SOB.

I agree, but good luck.  Imagine the uproar if Congress even considered impeaching the first "African-American" President.  I wish there was some Repub that had the balls to at least introduce Articles of Impeachment to the floor of the House.

295 But the complete collapse of our economic/financial system?

You can make money in this parlor game.  That will always be the case.

The question is, can you RAISE CAPITAL in this environment?  That is the big struggle.  Black boxes don't try to raise capital.  They merely are programmed to respond to changing conditions.

296 A new Congress isn't going to slay the President.  But a few of his knights are going to fall down hard.

297
I disagree that you can't get a lot of mileage out of her contempt for the military.

Big, BIG difference between can't and won't as far as the RINOs on judiciary are concerned.

She'll get a pass, just like the Illiterate Latina.

298 Are you saying Obama is a Lesbian trapped in a Muslim body?


I was thinking more Obama is a lesbian married to a lesbian trapped in a man's body. 

299 To the Senate:

The Constitutional provision requiring Senatorial confirmation was a direct notice that the Chief Executive was not to be given whomever he wanted for various positions, but only those of whom the Senate approved. This was and is a check on the ability of the Chief Executive to execute the laws in a manner at variance with the majority spirit of the nation, as it is often a case that elections turn on issues that lose their salience once the election is over, and other issues take front and center that Chief Executive may wish to act on in tones that the that the electorate in no way has decided upon. Naturally, the Chief Executive must be able to act upon these issues as he sees best, but the Senatorial confirmation process--along with the Congressional power of the purse and the power to make law--are a natural and proper constraint on that power to act as he sees best, to ensure that he acts within a certain broad consensus to avoid undue strife, as major changes in the nation should arise from the people, not be handed down by a single would-be Cleisthenes who wishes to reorder the populace.

Thus, in this upcoming nomination hearing, Senators should feel no compulsion against voting "no" if they choose to do so. It is an election, in a sense, one of the direct checks the Congress has on the Supreme Court, and to not vote "no" due to an feeling of undue "deference" to the Chief Executive is to allow for too coarse a system of checks on the Court, and will eventually lead to its downfall as an anti-democratic element too powerful and yet too remote all at the same time; a Court fundamentally at odds with the belief that sovereignty resides in the people and that the will of that sovereignty is best expressed via the federal system of state and national legislatures, with a President to administer but not make law.

As for as filibustering, that is to each Senator's conscience. If 60% of the Senate cannot agree on something as momentous as a nomination to the Supreme Court, especially with the Court playing such a role in American life as it does now and constituted with life-time tenure as it does now, then perhaps, in the interests of national good-will and unity, another pick is best. Please feel free to bring this post up again in a administration of another party, for the belief will be the same. The Senate is a check on the President's appointment, and their actions should reflect that fact.

300 I'm waiting for someone, anyone, to get in a pissing match with the Pres. (or the Mrs.) and leave the Administration in a huff. Doesn't have to be a high-level staffer or anything, just someone close enough to write a credible tell-all book. Not holding my breath, but it would be nice. I can't possibly know what this White House is like from the inside, but I bet it's a total viper pit.

301
just someone close enough to write a credible tell-all book.

You don't think Kal Penn getting a gun to his head after leaving the administration might have had a chilling effect on tell-alls?

302

Isn't Weigel supposed to be the conservative at WP?

303

The Precedent did learn (which is unusual for him).  He learned that he can promote the most un-Constitutional, un-American idea of empathy being the most important quality in a justice and still get idiots in the GOP to go soft on the pathetic nominee and have the empathetic imbecile get onto the Court without much resistance, at all.

Thanks to all the GOP shitheads and pundits who were so scared that the GOP would oppose the insane empathetic, wise Latina - who never should have been allowed within earshot of the SCOTUS.

Posted by: progressoverpeace

 

What if this is part of the strategm? Obamas nominates this person, and she either sails through, or is opposed, obstensibly because she's a lightweight. Obama then plays the discrimination card, and either fights for her, or allows this to drop, and comes with an obvious leftist as the replacement. This energizes the base, is seen by the compliant media as defending Gays, and casts Republicans as the party of 'no'.

304
casts Republicans as the party of 'no'.

Who gives a shit, you're just sticking to their script, just like the senate RINOs.  We really have to get over caring about what the hell the MFM says.

305 Things are bad, and are looking to stay bad for some time.  But the complete collapse of our economic/financial system?

Posted by: Sam at May 10, 2010 10:36 AM (Cxsey)

The fact that gold is up in reaction to the trillion being thrown down black holes in Europe says something pretty nasty.  Sure, the dollar is down (which would push gold up) but gold was up with the dollar's earlier rise, too.

I'm not a gold bug (I don't really trust gold to hold value) but it's clear that fiat currencies are rapidly driving themselves over the cliff and they don't seem to have any desire not to go for the full suicide run.  THis bailout for Greece and the PIGS will do nothing to fix their problems.  In fact, it only gives them reason NOT to fix the problems, which will just make them fester and return in much worse shape before long (and I mean "soon").

I liked the European commission president's comments last night about the strength of the EU. Asked about Greece leaving the monetary union, or other nations going, Barasso's idiotic reply was, "Estonia is coming into the EU" and that the EU is still 'growing'.  Estonia?  Wow!

306 I actually never followed the Kal Penn story. I had no idea he had left the Admin. I was annoyed when I realized that a guy from a movie that I actually found funny (a rare occurrence) was a worse-than-usual Hollywood dipshit. I'll go Google it.

307 Heard on the radio today that this would make the court religious makeup 3 Jews and 6 Catholics. No Protestants? No atheists or other? Kinda weird.

308 Sam, for every competent day trader that sustains themselves on it -- there are hundreds that burn in after three months. I have always wondered if ETrade uses the meta-data from traders for their own investments -- eg. these 15 day traders are good at this sector; lets follow them with some real money and hedges, etc.

309 casts Republicans as the party of 'no'.

Who gives a shit, you're just sticking to their script, just like the senate RINOs.  We really have to get over caring about what the hell the MFM says.

Posted by: Dang Straights

 

Agreed. However, this is how some strategists and many politicians think.

310 What is it with Obama and really ugly women?  Seriously, it's almost like he goes looking around for the ugliest hags he can find to serve as judges or in his administration, knowing it would enrage us bitter gun slingers who like pretty, morally upright women even more.  Bastard.

311
However, this is how some strategists and many politicians think.

Ask Bob Bennett how that worked out for him this cycle.

312 Posted by: A Casual Observation at May 10, 2010 01:46 AM (ITzbJ)

Earth to Blow Job. Check the hash. Google the IP.

313 What is it with Obama and really ugly women?

If they weren't ugly, they wouldn't be Marxist-feminist Democrats.

314 Original Roy - if it were three orthodox jews, and six devout catholics -- then we could be headed in the right direction. Obviously, the court needs a Cuccinelli to balance things out.

315 Kagan thesis: "To the Final Conflict: Socialism in New York City, 1900-1933" What does it tell us about her?

316 Obama also said the law is more than words on paper. A truly scary thought from a President.

Weight is just numbers on a scale.

317 327 What is it with Obama and really ugly women?  Seriously, it's almost like he goes looking around for the ugliest hags he can find to serve as judges or in his administration, knowing it would enrage us bitter gun slingers who like pretty, morally upright women even more.  Bastard.

 

In all fairness, his options are limited.  He can only consider democrats.

318 "Otherize" is a double-plus ungood word.

319 "What does it tell us about her?" That she picked a topic that no self-respecting Socialist Professor would ever grade lower than a B. Lightweight bee-yotch.

320 Blue Hen: "What if this is part of the strategm? [...] This energizes the base, is seen by the compliant media as defending Gays, and casts Republicans as the party of 'no'."

I submit to you The Rule of Anyway™.

Republicans should argue against her inexperience, her thin academic record of published scholarship, and, if necessary, speculate that she'll advance the standard, living Constitution POV. It really is up to the GOP to argue principles and even spice it up a bit by referencing the Bush-Miers appointment attempt. The Right forced Bush out of that decision - and it was the proper one - so now they should do it against the "enemy."

321 How is it that all of the hot chicks in college are liberal dims; but we end up with Reno, etc. on TV?

322

What if this is part of the strategm? Obamas nominates this person, and she either sails through, or is opposed, obstensibly because she's a lightweight. Obama then plays the discrimination card, and either fights for her, or allows this to drop, and comes with an obvious leftist as the replacement. This energizes the base, is seen by the compliant media as defending Gays, and casts Republicans as the party of 'no'.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 10, 2010 10:50 AM (R2fpr)

My view is that these appointments are all win-wins for The Precedent.  He doesn't care if any of his nominees make it through, but he picks people who will do damage getting on the Court, if they do, and who will do damage to the institutions with bruising battles, if they don't.  As The Precedent is driven by an overriding desire to destroy our institutions, he doesn't lose.  It's like his Copenhagen Olympic trip.  He didn't care if the US got the Olympics, or not.  If it went to Chicago, he got a lot of political power from that (sadly, as it shouldn't have had an effect on Americans, but we have so many un-American Americans, now), his criminal buddies made tons of money and he had more power to screw the US in other ways.  If he lost, then the US Presidency was harmed and US power took a hit in the world, which was his preferred outcome, anyway.  And he had the added advantage of doing something totally and unequivocally un-American (having the White House being the main salesman for the Olympic bid, which we have never done, as our nation just isn't structured that way - as the rest of the world is) and chipping away at the American creed that way.

For The Precedent, it's always about harming the US and destroying American systems and institutions.  That is what drives him.  That's why he's even more "in your face" about his insane and un-American and stupid 'empathy' argument for justices.  It's an offense to the intellect, but we don't have enough conservatives with brains to realize this and understand that this is a last stand this nation is experiencing.  So many of our traditions have been shit all over and so many of our institutional taboos have been broken that there really isn't that much left, now.  The damage is about irreparable, and The Precedent is just pushing it until it all breaks.

323
The modern version of the Ant and the Grasshopper..

The ant works hard in the withering heat and the rain all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter.

The grasshopper  thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away.

Come winter, the shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while he is cold and starving.

CBS, NBC , PBS, CNN, and ABC show up to provide pictures of the shivering grasshopper next to a video of the ant in his comfortable home with a table filled with food.

America is stunned by the sharp contrast.

How can this be, that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper  is allowed to suffer so?

Kermit the Frog appears on Oprah with the grasshopper and everybody cries when they sing, 'It's Not Easy Being Green.'

ACORN stages a demonstration in front of the ant's house where the news stations film the group singing, "We shall overcome." Then  Rev. Jeremiah Wright has the group kneel down to pray to God for the grasshopper' s sake.   

President Obama condemns the ant and blames President Bush, President Reagan, Christopher Columbus, and the Pope for the grasshopper's plight.

Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid exclaim in an interview with Larry King that the ant has gotten rich off the back of the grasshopper, and both call for an immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his fair share.

Finally, the EEOC drafts the Economic Equity & Anti-Grasshopper Act retroactive to the beginning of the summer.

The ant is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number of green bugs and, having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated by the Government  Green Czar  and given to the grasshopper.

The story ends as we see the grasshopper and his free-loading friends finishing up the last bits of the ant's food while the government house he is in, which, as you recall, just happens to be the ant's old house, crumbles around them because the grasshopper doesn't maintain it.

The ant has disappeared in the snow, never to be seen again.

The grasshopper  is found dead in a drug related incident, and the house, now abandoned, is taken over by a gang of spiders who terrorize the ramshackle, once prosperous and once peaceful, neighborhood.

The entire Nation collapses bringing the rest of the free world with it.

MORAL OF THE STORY:  Be careful how you vote in 2010, ants Morons!

324 Kagan said we had a "constitutional democracy".  Oh, really Elana?

325

Kagan could be the Left's version of Souter, but in reverse.  They think she's a safe middle of the roader, and once she gets in she'll go full LEFT.  I think Obama knows a lot more about Kagan than he's letting on.  She's replacing a full-on lefty so it's not going to change the way the SCOTUS votes, but she is relatively young at 50 so she'll be there for generations. 

Also in certain pictures she really looks like Dick Morris.

326 338 How is it that all of the hot chicks in college are liberal dims; but we end up with Reno, etc. on TV?

Biology is cruel.  And I'm of the opinion that the "neo-feminists" hatred for every perceived slight not only warps them mentally, but that it changes them physically.

327

But more importantly, she understands, "behind the law there are stories, stories of people's lives," Obama said.

Doesn't that just give you a case of the big warm fuzzies?

328 How is it that all of the hot chicks in college are liberal dims; but we end up with Reno, etc. on TV? Posted by: Jean at May 10, 2010 11:02 AM (mtAmx) What the hell did you think grass and booze on a college campus was for for pete's sake??????

329 Obama also said the law is more than words on paper. A truly scary thought from a President.

Even scarier thought if it comes from a judge.

330

What is it with the wymyn of the left and those cold, dead, shark eyes?

 

Seriously, it creeps me out......

331 Kagan said we had a "constitutional democracy".

Did she take Con Law with Barry?

332
What is it with the wymyn of the left and those cold, dead, shark eyes?

They are true sociopaths, much like Wee Wee.

333

Also in certain pictures she really looks like Dick Morris.

Posted by: Boots at May 10, 2010 11:04 AM (06JTY)

Have we ever seen them in a room together at the same time?

334

Off topic, but Ahhhnold gave an interview bemoaning he can't run for POTUS after his California Gov. gig is up.

 

Why the hell NOT?

 

He should run, and refuse to show his birth certificate. 

335 Have we ever seen them in a room together at the same time? Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at May 10, 2010 11:09 AM (YVZlY) Well unless she is a Dominatrix, of course not!

336 The only thing that the three end of things holds sacred is abortion.  The long history of Western Civilization and thought/philosophy boils down the this one practice as the only thing that is sacrosant.

337

Off topic, but Ahhhnold gave an interview bemoaning he can't run for POTUS after his California Gov. gig is up.

Isn't Austria the 57th State?

338 Isn't Austria the 57th State? Posted by: Speller at May 10, 2010 11:10 AM (o0R2E) Well Hitler thought so

339 MORAL OF THE STORY:  Be careful how you vote in 2010, ants Morons!

Once upon a time, there was a happy-go-lucky grasshopper who lived only to have fun. All through the long summer days, he would sing and dance, and laugh at the industrious ants who were busily preparing for winter. But then cruel winter came, and the grasshopper was starving. In desperation, he approached the ants' nest and begged for food. "You should have danced less and worked more," the ants scolded him, but then, being basically kind-hearted creatures, they decided to give him a few of their hard-won crumbs.

The next summer was exactly like the one before: Once more, the ants worked without pause, while the grasshopper sang and danced. When winter came, he appealed to the ants again, only this time, he brought his 10,000 children along with him. "It's thanks to your kindness," he said, "that I made it through the winter, and was able to father these little ones. Surely, you won't let us all starve to death."

The ants convened a meeting of their Council to decide what to do. On the one hand, they felt a certain responsibility for the grasshopper and his huge brood; on the other hand, feeding 10,000 growing grasshoppers could make a serious dent in their winter provisions.

Finally, one Council member had a brilliant idea. "Let's just take some food from the hardest-working ants. They've got more than enough, and won't mind sharing their good fortune with the needy grasshoppers."

The Council-of-Ants thought this was a splendid plan, and quickly acted on it. As a result, the grasshoppers survived the winter, the ants congratulated themselves on their compassion, and hardly anyone noticed that the hardest-working ants, whose food had been seized, left the nest in disgust.

Summer came around once again, and once again the grasshoppers danced and sang, while the ants toiled and saved. But without the hardest-working ants to do the heavy-lifting, the ants did not get very much accomplished, and barely accumulated enough food to get themselves through the winter.

And then, one cold and snowy day, the ants heard an ominous rumble approaching ever-closer. It was the sound of a million grasshoppers, all converging on their tiny ant-hill. "Since time immemorial," Grandfather Grasshopper solemnly declared, "the ant people have shared their winter provisions with the grasshopper people. We demand that you do so now, immediately, or we'll destroy your nest, and take by force what is rightfully ours."

This is how the Dilemma of the Welfare State, aka the Entitlement Crisis, came into the world.

340 Newsbreak: Rosie O'Donnell enthusiastically supports the Kagan nomination.

341 #354  Isn't Austria the 57th State?

Yeppers.  With it's own language. 

/I cannot bear to think about the economic damage a President Schwarzenegger would bring.  The Cali atmosphere has seriously warped his thinking.

342 What we need are some conservative, Manchurian candidates. Have someone at watch the admissions process at Hillsdale, The Citadel, VMI, Liberty, BYU, etc for some sharp candidates -- get them to apply to Harvard, pay their way through some obscure foundation, live like bohemians. Same foundation provides financial support, allows them to live like leftys and give to pols, and get promoted - until they can pull a reverse Souter.

343

Posted by: ed at May 10, 2010 11:09 AM (Urhve)

 

There's no doubt abortion has become the Holy sacrament of Liberalism.

 

Never mind "Safe & Rare;" a few more years and Liberals will demand a holiday celebrating it and those women that got abortions.

 

 

344 Speaking of neo-feminists, Amanda Marcotte thinks this is a great idea.

345 "that's a man baby"

346 I would eat Barrack's pussy forever if it weren't for Michelle's strap-on always getting in the way.

347 Heard on the radio today that this would make the court religious makeup 3 Jews and 6 Catholics. No Protestants? No atheists or other? Kinda weird.

Posted by: Original Roy at May 10, 2010 10:52 AM (jV0wG)

This is not good news for Jews, since the 3 Jews on the Court would all be America-hating shitbags who will harm American Jews more than anything in our history.  This is a very dangerous development for American Jews, and is part of a strategy to marginalize Jews in America - which American Jews have been happy to go along with in large numbers, as they supported the Indonesian Imbecile in embarrassing numbers.

It is sad, but Jews are going to experience the 1930's all over again, except that it will be global, this time, and there will be no sanctuary.  Once Israel is gone, it's pretty much all over.  The chances that Israel does what it needs to survive, though, are not encouraging.  Not one bit. 

Having the left side of the Court packed with Jews is a terrible development that American Jews ought to rally against, just for survival.  I'm keeping my fingers crossed and hoping against hope.

348

From The Hill: (snip)

Republicans are questioning Elena KaganÂ’s ties to a liberal icon and the nationÂ’s first African American Supreme Court justice, Thurgood Marshall.

Kagan quoted from a speech Marshall gave in 1987 in which he said the Constitution as originally conceived and drafted was “defective.” She quoted him as saying the Supreme Court’s mission was to “show a special solicitude for the despised and the disadvantaged.”

http://tinyurl.com/3894fva

I tried to post more of the article but the system found an additional two sentences 'annoying'. 

349 Yeah, things have really turned around.

Fannie Mae requested another $8.4 billion from the federal government on Monday, saying that due to trends in the housing and financial markets, the company expects its deficits to continue. Â…

The request cames just four days after Fannie’s twin Freddie Mac also asked for a handout – to the tune of $10.6 billion – after posting an $8 billion quarterly loss.

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Kagan quoted from a speech Marshall gave in 1987 in which he said the Constitution as originally conceived and drafted was “defective.” She quoted him as saying the Supreme Court’s mission was to “show a special solicitude for the despised and the disadvantaged.”

Posted by: Tami at May 10, 2010 11:34 AM (VuLos)

Didn't Barry say the Constitution was flawed? This cow is as leftist as Barry is or she wouldn't have been nominated.

351 My question is, why do they keep posting pictures of her boyfriend?

352

Didn't Barry say the Constitution was flawed? This cow is as leftist as Barry is or she wouldn't have been nominated.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 10, 2010 11:45 AM (1Jaio)

Moo!

353

Didn't Barry say the Constitution was flawed? This cow is as leftist as Barry is or she wouldn't have been nominated.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 10, 2010 11:45 AM (1Jaio)

Obama, from a 2001 Public Radio interview: (source: American Thinker)

If you look at the victories and failures of the civil rights movement and its litigation strategy in the court. I think where it succeeded was to invest formal rights in previously dispossessed people, so that now I would have the right to vote. I would now be able to sit at the lunch counter and order as long as I could pay for it IÂ’d be o.k. But, the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and of more basic issues such as political and economic justice in society. To that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasnÂ’t that radical. It didnÂ’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as its been interpreted and Warren Court interpreted in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. Says what the states canÂ’t do to you. Says what the Federal government canÂ’t do to you, but doesnÂ’t say what the Federal government or State government must do on your behalf, and that hasnÂ’t shifted and one of the, I think, tragedies of the civil rights movement was, um, because the civil rights movement became so court focused I think there was a tendancy to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalition of powers through which you bring about redistributive change. In some ways we still suffer from that.

354 Whoa!  Sorry...we need a 'preview' option.

355 Handsome woman. 

356 Says what the Federal government canÂ’t do to you, but doesnÂ’t say what the Federal government or State government must do on your behalf,

Posted by: Tami at May 10, 2010 11:59 AM (VuLos)

The "Constitutional Scholar" evidently never read Amendments V, VI, or VII.  All they talk about is what the various governments must do on your behalf. 

V talks about due process that the government MUST do and just compensation that governments must give for seized private property.  

VI discusses that the government must provide a speedy and public trial by jury, including details about the composition of the jury, the jurisdiction to be tried in, ...

VII forces the government to provide trial by jury for civil cases above a minimal amount.

Usually, people who characterize the Constitution as a "charter of negative liberties" (which it isn't, anyway, as its main purpose is as the architecture and limits of the federal government) are only talking about the Bill of Rights (as the rest of the Constitution has little to do with 'negative liberties') and, even then, they are only talking about the few cherished amendments that the left has based most of its idiotic cases on - though the "Equal Protection" amendment is a favorite of lefties to abuse for all sorts of insane cases.  Even the Bill of Rights involves positive instructions to the various governments as to what they must do on the citizen's behalf ... but I wouldn't expect Harvard retards to learn or understand this.  It's too obvious.

357 Posted by: Tami at May 10, 2010 11:59 AM (VuLos)

Oops.  I should have put quotes in to show that you were quoting the Indonesian Imbecile.  Sorry, Tami.

358 No problem, POP. 

359 I would now be able to sit at the lunch counter and order as long as I could pay for it IÂ’d be o.k. But, the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and of more basic issues such as political and economic justice in society. To that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasnÂ’t that radical.

This is where it all started.  A lot of people said that the federal government had no authority to tell private businesses who they could serve at their "lunch counters", nor could they tell private owners who that could sell their house to, or private companies who they had to hire.

Even as people said that this was an abuse of authority even if it was for a so-called worthy cause they were accused of racism. Hell, that tactic worked so good it is used for everything now. Hell, if you are against anything that black people advocate now you are a racist.

The truth of the matter, as originally stated, the Constitution does not allow the federal government to have the authority to tell people who, what, or where they will do business. And as was originally stated this has morphed into other venues besides guaranteeing blacks.  Now a bar can not allow smoking and the government can force you to hire based on a percentage of race, except in the case of Asians.

360 A lot of people said that the federal government had no authority to tell private businesses who they could serve at their "lunch counters", nor could they tell private owners who that could sell their house to, or private companies who they had to hire.

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2010 12:29 PM (6taRI)

Not just the federal government, but even state governments are not allowed to infringe on private property rights without, at least, just compensation for the loss to the owner (amend V).  But to have the federal government do it is doubly offensive, un-Constitutonal, and un-American.

361 Barry Goldwater famously supported civil rights improvements and legislation and society making the loud argument for fair treatment.  He was an NAACP member back when it meant something and entailed risk and a real fight, instead of the nasty cash grab crap it means today.

But he refused to sign onto a bill that would tell people who they had to do business with.  He knew that was wrong.  He knew it would cement divisions.  Instead of learning how to get along, we were always going to be forced to, and some would resent it.

And now this patriot and lover of all Americans was branded a racist by some for opposing one civil rights bill on his own more solid understanding of the true meaning of civil rights.

362

What is it with the wymyn of the left and those cold, dead, shark eyes?

I resemble that remark.

363 #379 - Barry Goldwater? Now, there's a tidbit of minutia and a name from the far distant past. And here I thought that the Democrats had done a better job of purging his name from history than the Egytians tried to do when they had any mention of Akhenaten removed from all of their monuments.

364
Did anybody say that she looks like Dick Morris in drag?  Or not in drag.  Especially that pic on drudge.

365

I resemble that remark.

Posted by: Janet at May 10, 2010 01:54 PM

 

"The eyes are the window to the soul..."

 

*Shudders*

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