1 Good for Bibi!

About time he started waking up

2 Israel stands alone right now.  The president does not care about Israel.  What a weird set of principals he has.  It makes no sense for the US to behave this way, yet, for some strange reason, with this president it makes perfect sense.  We are in strange times indeed.

3 “It is more dangerous to be America’s friend than to be her enemy.”

Hell, it's just plain dangerous to be an American.

4 I don't know what that fucker thinks he's doing, but it sure appears to me as if he is trying to assist his Muslim brothers in destroying Israel.  http://tinyurl.com/y2lwpy5

5 How to Piss off Friends and Bribe People by Barack 0bama

6 This combined with Obama denying Visas to Israeli nuclear scientists just makes you wonder where this crazy train is taking us, and what will the damage be when it all derails?

7 According to this "senior foreign policy fellow" the only reason the Republicans like Israel is because Israel kills Muslims.

"he modern Republican Party that has to cater to these racists and that gets me to my fundamental point, it is not that they are pro-Israel. They are anti-Muslim. They do not like Muslims. They are on the side of Israel because Israel is — they don’t like Jews that much to start out with, either — but compared to Muslims, they like Jews fine.

TheyÂ’re infatuated with the Israeli army. Why? Because the Israeli army kills Muslims. I mean, this is what itÂ’s all about[.]"

By that standard we should have loved Saddam and Syria and the USSR and  . . . .

8 Actually Netanyahu is telling Barry, "Go fuck yourself", but in a nice way of course.

9 Teh Fred also had another line in that movie - perhaps the best line in all moviedom:

"A Russian don't take a dump, son, without a plan."

Watching President Obama flail around, I'm quite sure he's no Russian.

10 I am willing to bet that if Israel attacks Iran, that Obama will shoot her planes down if they fly over America airspace in Iraq

11 Can't blame them a bit really, I would do the same thing in there shoes.  We can't even keep pictures of our on CIA officers away from terrorists were holding at Gitmo.  Hardly surprising the Israeli's aren't to keen about sharing top secret information with us, anything they did tell this administration would probably be on CNN the next morning.

This "summit" will be just a repeat of all of the crap you see at the UN, a bunch of asshat dictators and despots decrying the good guys and taking them to task for having the temerity to want to defend themselves.

I only hope that Israel can hang on till 2012 when we can do a little regime change of our own.  Until then I fear they are in tremendous peril, no Monty Python reference intended.

12 I am willing to bet that if Israel attacks Iran, that Obama will shoot her planes down if they fly over America airspace in Iraq

I'm willing to bet that our pilots say "What planes?" or "Shit, my radar's down."

13

Ben, i believe that is what brezinski (?)stated a year ago. I really cannot understand what this administration is doing  or i do but am dumbfounded by it all..

 

14

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 09, 2010 12:32 PM (xxgag)

If that "Senior Foreign Policy Fellow" said that in my presence, I'd crush his fucking face.

15 No one expects the Nuclear Inquisition!

16

Dong fogay bow me.

I havva nuke an I make mofo you. OK?

 

17

This combined with Obama denying Visas to Israeli nuclear scientists

Yeh, I linked that in the headlines thread.

DrewM., you wannna add that bit? It's bad, in a way that's typical of this administration.

18 Good on you Bibi! I'd tell Obama to go fuck himself too, the Muslim Marxist tool.

19 Netanyahu stands up Captain Awesome?

Now where would he get an idea to do that?

20 A fantasy: Obama: Hello? Netanyahu: You know your so-called terrorism summit? The one where you pretend to fight terrorists getting nukes? Where you pretend to be my nation's ally? Well, count us out. Obama: Uh, um, who is this? What's your uh, name? Netanyahu: What's my name? Fuck you, that's my name. Obama: Uh, is that a Thai name? Like, um, Moo goo gai pan? Austrian? Netanyahu: Obama: Hello? Do you need to, um, talk to Axelrod or Rahm one of the guys who does the, um, real stuff around here? I'm sort of busy now, I'm reading up on Tiger Woods. Hey, what's a "bogey?" Is that like "bogeyman" or something racist? Netanyahu: Sorry. Wrong number. (click)

21 Obama?
I loathe him.

22 Obama's every move is calculated to weaken America or hurt our allies. I loathe him.

23 If only those pesky Joos would stop trying to protect themselves from their non-existent enemies in the middle east we would have peace throughout the world. And if they are wrong about the threat and they get nuked or invaded? So what? It's not like their lives are important or anything.We could send those billions in aid to people who really need it, like the Venezuelans.

24

Loved (not) the headline Yahoo put up: Netenyahu "ducks" conference.

No dipshits, he declined -- and for good reason.  Anti-semite/pro Israel arguements aside: it makes no (or very piss poor) strategic sense to hang Israel out to dry.  Why is this administration doing it?  Beats the hell out of me (not really, but the implications are really horrible to contemplate, so I'll stick with blessed ignorance as bliss).

25 Does anyone here know if isreal has the ability to produce Fusion bombs (H-bombs)?

26 Going to this thing would have just been PUNCHING DOWN for Netanyahu, anyway...

27

Just to re-post something I wrote from down below...

If I were Israel I'd be feeling very nervous about now. One thing they always had going was that if things got really bad was that the U.S. was their friend and ally.

Not now.

Basically, they are in a worse situation than England was in 1940 after the fall of France.

28 What worries me the most is that we've pretty much put Israel's back to the wall and it's only going to get worse from here.  They have to know by now that Obama will do absolutely nothing to keep Iran from developing a working nuclear weapon.

All of their talk of sanctions and arms treaties and all that other nonsense is total bullshit, Iran will get the bomb if someone doesn't stop them.  Now, put yourself in Israel's position.

You have no reason to doubt that the asshat mulahs who've been threating you with annihilation for years and years won't act on this the absolute moment they obtain a weapon capable of making that threat a reality.

And you can forget all that fancy missile defense technology that your fair weather friend America supposedly is deploying to the gulf.  First you'd have to count on the fact that it would actually work and stop an incoming attack.  Second you'd have to rely on your supposed allies to have the spine to actually use it, which is questionable at best. And odds are good it will be a moot point entirely, because the most likely scenario for a nuclear attack on Israel won't involve an Iranian missile at all.

It will involve an Iranian warhead, or perhaps more than one, turned over to Hezbollah.   The nutjob terrorist sent off the nuke, and even if you could prove it came from Iran (something everyone in the world would know for a fact) odds are good nothing would get done about it at all. 

Israel is such a small country you really wouldn't need a whole lot of warheads to wipe them off the map.  So really Israel is running out of time, and out of options here, and if something doesn't happen soon they'll be left with two inevitable but wholly undesirable choices:

1) A military strike or more likely full scale military invasion of Iran.  It's doubtful a strike would do enough damage at this point, odds are good they'd need to launch a full scale invasion to make sure they were safe further down the road.

2) A pre-emptive nuclear strike against Iranian facilities.

29

Does anyone here know if isreal has the ability to produce Fusion bombs (H-bombs)?

I'm thinking it's all pretty much fission these days. But a nuke is a nuke. Really, really big bang.

30 I've always though there was something kind of redundant about calling Israel our greatest ally.  No shit they are.  We have pretty much propped the country up since inception. With money, defense technology, etc. Not that I disagree with it, but they dont have much choice but to be our ally.

31 Now that Barry has Israel's back to the wall, and Israel may have to act pre-emptively, Barry's dream comes true. Gasoline at $10 per gallon, oil at $250 per barrel. We can't just drive our SUVs anywhere we want, you know. Unless they are Barry's personal armored ones.

32 #10 - I am willing to bet that if Israel attacks Iran, that Obama will shoot her planes down if they fly over America airspace in Iraq. I'd bet Israel will stage it's aircraft directly across the Gulf, either in the UAE or Qatar, maybe even secretly in Saudi Arabia. OR.... If Israel overflies Iraq, what makes you think that the US forces would shoot at IAF aircraft? Can you say mutiny?

33 As Teh Fred said in The Hunt for Red October, "This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it. "

And Israel gets to take the first punch to the chin, lucky them. Well at least that will give us some warning that the world is ending.

[BRAAAIIINS]

Look there goes a zombie now. . .

34 If Israel overflies Iraq, what makes you think that the US forces would shoot at IAF aircraft?

Ooops! I missed...silly me, I left the safety on.

35 @#25 bergerbilder:

Implosion fission is the tough part; lots of hydrodynamic maths.  The Teller/Ulam design (or Sakharov's Third Idea if you play for that team) has been openly discussed to the point where anyone with sufficient Pu-238 (for the fusion sparkplug) could build something that had some level of fusion burn.  The tough part of fusion weapons is sizing and packaging into something deliverable.  I can't imagine that the Israelis haven't figured this out by now; after all national survival tends to focus the scientific minds.

36 Rahm is the one that perplexes me. He did time with the IDF civilian auxiliaries, he and his family has been BIG public supporters of Israel in the past. Can't understand why he's willing to see this continue.

Oh yeah, he a Democrat.

37

And odds are Obama would join the ambush rather than prevent it.

What are you saying? You're offering long-shot odds on Obama leading the ambush? I'll take that action.

38 If Israel decides it must act during our Reign of Error, Jan. 2009-Jan.2013, it is certain they will give a very last minute "heads up" to the Nation Below Canada, perhaps an hour or less of warning. Can you imagine the sheer quantity of soiled pants in the White House that will appear in that short time? If Israel acts, it must do so without coordination with the Obama Regime, for Barry will do everything imaginable to stop it.

39

"If Israel overflies Iraq, what makes you think that the US forces would shoot at IAF aircraft?"

Milpron Trivia:  No two countries that own F-16's have ever gone to battle against one another.

Barack Obama - UNPRECEDENTED.  HISTORIC.

40 Barry will do everything imaginable to stop it

They'll be condemned by the US and the UN either way. The US isn't going to attack Israel either way, so why bother telling Washington anything until after the fact?

41 I'm thinking it's all pretty much fission these days. But a nuke is a nuke. Really, really big bang.

Most of Israel's warheads are believed to be the Teller-Ulam design, it's a pretty standard design used by most countries.  While it technically uses both fusion and fission it's the fissionable material that creates the biggest portion of the bang.

But your right, for the most part a nuke is a nuke.. the bang is so damn big whether it was fusion or fission really doesn't make a hill of beans difference for the most part.

42 Dammit, I didn't mean to keep the someguy sock on.  I want to take credit for my milpron trivia...

43 I'm thinking it's all pretty much fission these days. But a nuke is a nuke. Really, really big bang.

And you'd be wrong. Almost all nukes have fusion components, and it does
make a substantial difference in yield. Ground zero doesn't really care, but a mile away the difference between the two starts to effect human survivability.

44 @40 Israel would issue a last minute warning to friendly forces in the area, only to prevent alarm and retaliation against Israeli forces. You know, the IDF could issue a warning that an unusual conventionally-armed attack or recon mission was taking place, and simply lie to Barry.

45 I'm glad Bibi took my advice.

46 OR.... If Israel overflies Iraq, what makes you think that the US forces would shoot at IAF aircraft?

Can you say mutiny?

No, I don't think the military would probably do something like this, my guess would be they would most likely follow orders and fire.  However, while they can order you to fire at an aircraft they generally forget to order you to do your best to hit it, which are two entirely different things.

Besides I just don't see Barry and company having the stones to order the troops to open fire in the first place.  The backlash in the Jewish community alone would be unimaginable.  No, while they seem for whatever reason perfectly fine with supporting these worthless asshat liberals despite their rather thinly veiled anti-Semitic sentiments, I doubt that an action that open or brazen against Israel would be tolerated at all by what has been a pretty solid voting block for them to this point.

47

AoSHQ:  Where Supreme Court Justice threads turn into Michael Moore joke-fests, and Israel threads turn into the National Assembly of Oppenheimer Impersonators.

I love you guys.

48

I'm not so sure that Obama and the Clinton-administered State Department have taken an anti-Israel stance.

I have always liked Benjamin Netanyahu if for no other reason than because his personality makes him, for lack of a better word, an interesting man.

But he is a lousy poker player; e.g., he should not have come to Washington. He should have gotten Obama's and Clinton's people to come to him.

That being said, he should have left his pomposity and his arrogance and his whiny claims of mistreatment at home, for he continues to give rise to a perception that he suffers from a delusion that the tail is wagging the dog.

BTW, Israel is not one of our strongest and best allies. I suspect that they have been giving migraine headaches to our State Department and to our military for the past 50 years, and before then, for the immediately prior 12 years, the British weren't fond of them either.

An ally? Not hardly. A pain in the ass? Definitely.

49 But your right, for the most part a nuke is a nuke.. the bang is so damn big whether it was fusion or fission really doesn't make a hill of beans difference for the most part.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but considering the available delivery vehicles (aircraft & missiles), the weight/size vs yield question really makes fusion a necessary condition for militarily practical nukes.

Once you go to clandestine shipping container delivery though, that changes things.

50 AoSHQ: Where Supreme Court Justice threads turn into Michael Moore joke-fests, and Israel threads turn into the National Assembly of Oppenheimer Impersonators At least you haven't devolved into booty puns here. Man, my balls are throbbing. I haven't had any in at least eight hours.

51

Almost all nukes have fusion components, and it does
make a substantial difference in yield.

Yes, but are we talking about an atomic bomb or a H-bomb? I'm suggesting that the latter really doesn't exist anymore. Way too big, and out of control.

At least from what I've read and seen in documentaries.

But I could be wrong...

52 I love you guys.

Hey, what's not to love.  But now that you mention it maybe we can get two in for the price of one.  How about giving Moore a ride up to the international space station (assuming we have rocket boosters strong enough to get his fat ass off the ground of course) and then dropping him from orbit so that he strikes Iran?

I haven't run the calculations myself, but odds are good that the devastation would be enough to pretty much wipe out the whole country.    Only thing that concerns me is the mass, it might be just enough to kick up a large enough dust cloud to wipe out all life on earth.

If nothing else with the smell that would be generated the Persian Gulf would likely be uninhabitable for centuries to come.

53 An ally? Not hardly. A pain in the ass? Definitely.

A pain in the ass to our working-for-the-other-team Islamist State Department?  Another reason to consider Israel a great ally of America.

54

"As Teh Fred said in The Hunt for Red October, "This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it."

I chuckled at first--it's a great movie from which to cull the telling quote--but then my blood went slightly cold at the obvious follow-on scene:

Capt. Tupolev (played by Barry Soetoro):  "we're going to kill an old friend, Yvgeni."

Lt Cdr Bonovia (played by Rahm Emanuel): "You arrogant ass.  You've killed US!"

55 I am become Dork, Destroyer of World Wide Webs.

56 Now Obama is trying to position himself as some nuclear strategy expert by attacking Sarah Palin, not the argument that she made. Lulz.

57

"A pain in the ass? Definitely."

Don't get me started...

58 The questions is... does this criminal fucker even HAVE a birth certificate?

59

BTW, Israel is not one of our strongest and best allies. I suspect that they have been giving migraine headaches to our State Department and to our military for the past 50 years, and before then, for the immediately prior 12 years, the British weren't fond of them either.

Care to explain that one? I'd be interested...

60

"If nothing else with the smell that would be generated the Persian Gulf would likely be uninhabitable for centuries to come."

Such is the consequence when you resort to nuclear shitheads...

61 Yes, but are we talking about an atomic bomb or a H-bomb? I'm suggesting that the latter really doesn't exist anymore. Way too big, and out of control.

Well technically all thermonuclear weapons are H-Bombs, most rely on a combination of a fission and a fusion reaction to produce a high yield explosion.  The older "A-Bomb" fission only designs really aren't used anymore, the yield by comparison is much smaller vrs the size of the warhead itself.

62 A little off topic, but someone help me out here...what exactly happened to teh Fred in the primaries.  I know that that skinny little runt, Carl Cameron, at Fox News "exposed" the Fred's supposed person view that being President wasn't all that important to him, but Fred went down too quietly for my liking.  I expected him to put the smack down on the story, stick out his chest, and bellow one of his great movie lines, or smack Carl Cameron around like he did Jabba Moore.  But Teh Fred seemed to quietly slink away into the political mist with his tail tucked behind his very hawt wife.  There's got to be more to the story.  Fred's wife seems to be more out in front than Fred is now.  It is disappointing that Fred isn't all over the talk shows, etc. smacking the muslim poser down in the way that only Teh Fred can.  I just wonder why.  It almost seems like he's been blackmailed or someone is holding something over his head.  Anyone have any opinions?

63
Correct me if I'm wrong, but considering the available delivery vehicles (aircraft & missiles), the weight/size vs yield question really makes fusion a necessary condition for militarily practical nukes.

Once you go to clandestine shipping container delivery though, that changes things.

The hydrogen injection system in a fusion warhead takes up quite a bit of room and is a big difficulty in creating practical sized delivery vehicles for fusion weapons designed for missile delivery; but it has been done and provides substantial increases to yield. But keep in mind that fusion warheads contain a fission trigger to build the necessary conditions to start the reaction. In many small warheads, the yield from this portion of the weapon is the larger yield. Portable devices I would imagine cannot simply have the room for such a system, so they would be fission only. Keep in mind, based on the mass of fuel used, energy released from fusion is 4X+ greater than that of common fission fuels.

64 Israeli jets don't have the legs to make it to Iran with a heavy payload and back home again and with the situation in Iraq what it is I doubt they would overfly Iraqi airspace.A more likely scenario would be the Saudis or Turks would quietly allow the use of their airspace but in flight refueling would still be a problem without U.S. assistance.

65

"Rahm is the one that perplexes me. He did time with the IDF civilian auxiliaries, he and his family has been BIG public supporters of Israel in the past. Can't understand why he's willing to see this continue.

Oh yeah, he a Democrat."

That, and whenever there is a choice involved, liberalism trumps. Always.

66 25 Does anyone here know if isreal has the ability to produce Fusion bombs (H-bombs)?

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 09, 2010 01:01 PM (FkfJJ)

Yes they do. And they have it.

67 59

BTW, Israel is not one of our strongest and best allies. I suspect that they have been giving migraine headaches to our State Department and to our military for the past 50 years, and before then, for the immediately prior 12 years, the British weren't fond of them either.

Care to explain that one? I'd be interested...

Posted by: HH

I'm still waiting for their explanation too.  I guess they aren't very Joooish friendly.

68

Team Troll is absolutely right.

The source of the headache isn't the Palestineans, Iranians, or Syrians who all keep trying to drive the Israelis into the ocean and take the land.  No.  Not at all.  It's those fuckers who keep calling us up, and bitching about how they're trying to be exterminated again!

The headache isn't coming from Hezbollah RPGs crashing into densely-populated settlements.  It's those damn settlements getting in the way of the blast!

The headache CERTAINLY isn't the captured media footage of dead / dying Israeli civilians lying in the rubble.  Nope!  The headache is ABSOLUTELY the manufactured media footage of dead Syrian militia dressed up like civilians to throw off Israeli snipers.

69 So Mike, you seem to know something about this.

70

Definitely.

Posted by: Dianne & Brian at April 09, 2010 01:30 PM (ITzbJ)

How fucking stupid are you two? The British are hardly our allies anymore, with this commie bastard in office.

71
I'm still waiting for their explanation too.  I guess they aren't very Joooish friendly.

Posted by: mpfs at April 09, 2010 01:48 PM (iYbLN)

Well, Dianne has a cock...

72

What is really sad is that Obama is going to force Israel to ally with Russia soon...

Russia is having its own terrorist problems, and are about to lose patience with the Wests namby pamby tactics... and if Israel gets thrown under the bus by Obama, they will seek out the next most powerful ally just out of pure survival.

Problem is that Israel is one of the best weapons designers out there.  There technology sometimes even exceeds our own, and if they start supplying Russia with design help... look out.

73

"I'm still waiting for their explanation too."

YOU EXPLAIN HOW WE CAN BELIEVE YOUR CLAIMS TO BE FEMALE FIRST!  HULGAGUAHGLUAGHGLAUGAH!

74 So Mike, you seem to know something about this.

Umm-a little I guess...

75 @73

LOL

76

Brian can't type his reply since it's hard to type with Dianne's cock in his mouth.

Wait till he stops gagging.

77

How fucking stupid are you two? The British are hardly our allies anymore, with this commie bastard in office.

Posted by: TexasJew at April 09, 2010 01:51 PM (P9FdQ)

 

You dumb shit. The British have always been this country's strongest and best allies. 

78 My, my aren't we testy today Dick & Balls.
What?  Not enough Jews die today to satisfy you?

79

and before then, for the immediately prior 12 years, the British weren't fond of them either.

Say, would that be when they were in Europe? And didn't Eruope come under controle of Nazi Germany?

Say, what did happen to them pesky jews about then?

Oh, the survivors left and tried to make a country for themselves?

Damn, how uncomfortable for the Brits.

And they've had to fight for survive ever since?

Damn, how rude of them.

Well, what can a person say? Those pesky jews just upset the natural order of things, I guess.

Only thing I can say to sum this up.

Go Israel!

 

80

Why is everyone wondering about our Israel policy.

Obama's father being a communist muslim certainly was an anti-Semite. As a youth, Obama when to a Muslim school in an Muslim country which was certainly anti-Semite. Then when Obama was old enough to go his own way he chose to go to a church with an anti-Semite preacher.

I suspect the title "Dreams Of My Father" actually refers to a world without Jews.

81

I guess they aren't very Joooish friendly.

Posted by: mpfs at April 09, 2010 01:48 PM (iYbLN)

 

With respect to the issues which I raised, the religion of the many of the Israelis is irrelevant. It is the prudence of their policies which I'm challenging. So give your paranoia a rest. 

82 Hey, do you really expect to get this much stupidity and hatred out of a single person?  At least by going after two people at once, y'all are punching up!

83

With respect to the issues which I raised,

Shouldn't that be We, err Dianne & Brian ?

Oh, and you haven't come clean on why the Israelis are the cause of all the problems in the mid-east.

Waiting....

84

Oh, the survivors left and tried to make a country for themselves?

Damn, how uncomfortable for the Brits.

 

"Left", huh? Under their own accord? ''

Um, like the British didn't do their best to assist the people who fled to Palestine, um, until those ingrates thought that they were smarter than the British were.

You show your ignorance. You don't even know the part that the British played in the formation of what is now the state of Israel.

Under the British plan, those immigrants would have been assimmilated peacefully without the bloodshed that ensued.

85

Posted by: Dianne & Brian at April 09, 2010 02:34 PM (ITzbJ)

WTF?

What kind of history have you people read?

Jesus...

86

Oh, and you haven't come clean on why the Israelis are the cause of all the problems in the mid-east. - HH

 

Cut and paste where I said that?

Don't get cutesy with me, dimwit. You're not up to the task.

87 I'm tired of talking in circles with you people, so I'm just going to cut to the chase.

No matter what the Jews do or say, they are guilty in the eyes of my kind. They must be pushed into the sea and Israel must cease to exist, only then will I be satisfied. Then, and only then, will all those other surrounding nations contue to peacefully coexist with the world.

88 Israel's very smart to get out of this conference. Obama's game-plan has been blatantly clear for some time.

Get nukes on the public agenda as a major item (sorta like health care) ->

Forge agreement with Russia, continue to gin up the topic as a major, major, major national security issue ->... See More

Gather Israelis and the usual gaggle of Israel-haters into a big room and pound, pound, pound on Israel about how change has come, it's time to make the tough decisions, needs to be a nuke-free middle East, etc. ->

Regardless of outcome vis-a-vis Israel, go to Arab states with new bragging rights about having stuck it to Israel. Beg for reciprocity in the form of support of weak Iran sanctions; beg Palestinians to be happy with a finally-Israel-hating America and make some kind of media-ready deal with the Jews even if the whole thing is a sham ->

Arabs laugh in Obama's face and repeat the exact same demands from 1948, 1967, 1973, 1981 etc.

Announce major diplomatic breakthrough.

89 i am become death, destroyer of worlds lol

90 Sorry. Pasted that from a post on my FB page.

91

At this point I'm wondering if Obama was born at all, or just manifested in a sulfrous cloud of smoke at the bottom of some mine somewhere.

"This foe is beyond any of you"...

92

BTW, Israel is not one of our strongest and best allies. I suspect that they have been giving migraine headaches to our State Department and to our military for the past 50 years, and before then, for the immediately prior 12 years, the British weren't fond of them either.

So correct me if I'm wrong. You are NOT blaming Israel for the problems in the mid-east. Fine.

Now tell me why they are so wrong for trying to exist as a country.

Go ahead. A group of persons who were almost wiped out by the Nazis. And wanted to get the hell out of Europe to start their own country.

Actually, tell it to THEM, not me, why they were wrong, and caused so much 'migraines' to the Brits.

Idiot...

93 Dick and Balls are your typical Jew haters. It's that simple. Why don't you go to Kos where they just cream themselves over being anti semites.

94

Posted by: mpfs at April 09, 2010 02:49 PM (QkFdF)

Yer right. I should know better than to get into something like this.

Live and learn, as they say.

95

"Under the British plan, those immigrants would have been assimmilated peacefully without the bloodshed that ensued."

That must be the dumbest statement I've seen on this site that came from a non-troll hash.

96 Just a simple question if you all post the same shit at Drudge or HA, does that count as a double post?

I got a bet on the number of double posts over here.

97

HH, not to mention a people whe were unceremoniously expelled from Iraq and Egypt; and very lucky to escape alive from Yemen. But sure, if the Brits just had been allowed to work the magic they'd already worked in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Iraq then Palestine would have been a marvel of interreligious multiethnic harmony.

Where's Cedarford? His crazed rants were at least amusing.

98 @60

I see what you did there.  Heh.

99

So I guess Israel isn't as willing to let Bammy slap a 'Kick Me' sign on their back.  Good for them! 

And for folks wondering why they won't share nuclear secrets with us?  Six words:  'Senate Intelligence Committee' and 'House Intelligence Committee'.  The only reason they should share their nuclear capabilities with us is for the purpose of running a disinformation campaign against their enemies.

100 But sure, if the Brits just had been allowed to work the magic they'd already worked in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Iraq then Palestine would have been a marvel of interreligious multiethnic harmony.

Don't forget their own country, which is now an impotent, balkanized quasi-police/welfare state with Islam as its de facto state religion.

They're like Harry Potter magical, they are.

101

"Now tell me why they are so wrong for trying to exist as a country."

 

LOL. Cut and paste where I said that, also?

Dayum, goober, you can't be that inept. NOBODY is that inept ..., well, except for mpfs, this site's resident yenta. LOL

 

102 I hate Jews. True story.

103

"What kind of history have you people read?"

Ummm...does the name Howard Zinn ring any bells?

104

What many posters don't realize is the SIZE of the area we are talking about.

Once you take out the Negev Desert.. you can drive the length of Israel in about 2 hours.  You can drive the WIDTH of Israel, in places, in HALF an hour, to an Hour.

If you give the Palestinians all that they want, it CUTS the country into pieces, with no territorial integrity.  It also places the ENTIRE country inside the range of Medium Range Surface to Surface Missles, from areas held by a group that is SWORN in their founding documents, to destroy them.

I've been to the Mideast a few times... and to Israel once... I'll take Israel over the rest of the Mideast anytime.

105 102 I hate Jews. True story.

Posted by: Dianne & Brian at April 09, 2010 03:26 PM >(qs11W) <

 

(qs11W) isn't the brightest bulb on the tree. LOL But he is the sleaziest.

 

106 Dianne and Brian:

I think you belong over at KOS.

Obambi deserves the hottest circle of hell for what he is doing, and I believe the Almighty will certainly oblige.

107 Oh, my!

These may be the dumbest trolls I have ever seen here at AOSHQ.

Absolutely no knowledge of the British role in Palestine. No understanding of the relationship between the USA, Israel, and security in the ME, and they aren't clever at all.

I pay good money for this subscription. I expect better trolls!

108 Damned sock!

109 Can't you at least give us credit for not calling outright for the elimination of Jews? We only want to enable others to do it!

110

I think you belong over at KOS.

LOL - Um yeah, we've busted their balls, too, and I suspect that Arianna has kinky, multiple orgasms whenever I screw with the minds of the loonies there.  We're equal opportunity ball-busters.

BTW, if you think I give you dimwits headaches, consider the migraines that I gave to James Carville when I was in one of his summer courses just for the fun of it.  

 
Posted by: jlfintx at April 09, 2010 03:37 PM (JtnAT)

111 Well, well. It has an inflated ego as well as an inflated sense of its own knowledge.

Don't flatter yourselves; I don't think anyone here has paid enough attention to you to get upset.  Mostly we like poking at you with sticks, just to see what spouts out of your puss-filled maw.

112

111

 

 Uh, huh. Um, yeah, right. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

113 I can haz ded joos nao?

114 113 I can haz ded joos nao?

Posted by: Dianne & Brian at April 09, 2010 04:25 PM >(tcMQZ)<

 

 

And the Dummy Of The Day Award goes to (tcMQZ) ....., for reasons which, well, he is too stupid to realize. LOL That's what makes our presentation of that award so much fun. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

115 Lots of Laughs!

116 Dianne and Brian

If you were within reaching distance I would cut off your head and shove it down Brian's neck.

117

You know, I'm going to reply straight up:

Yes, under the British plan the Jewish refugees would have assimilated, or at least cohabited peacefully, and it could have worked too -- there was a long history of Jews living in the area already, and their relations with the Palestinian Arabs was not always so hostile.  The Grand Mufti kind of threw a wrench in the works though.

As for Israel being a pain in the ass -- well of course it has, and we've been a pain in their ass too.  Allied countries are merely that; they are not your siblings or your lovers.  Countries work to their own best interest, or should; to expect differently is to be foolish.  To expect Israel to always be aggreable to us is as ridiculous as to expect us to always be agreeable to Israel.  HOWEVER, it is in both countries best interests to work together as allies, and it is in the best interests of many of the surrounding Arab states to have it remain so as well -- the American-Israel allegiance provides a certain stablity to the region that would not be there if it was gone.  This dimwit is endangering not just Israel, and not just the U.S. with these shenanigans.

118 Dianne & Brian are mein kind of people!

119

".... the American-Israel allegiance provides a certain stablity to the region that would not be there if it was gone." - Jane @ 5:22

Looks good on paper, Jane, but it isn't the reality. Cite one service that they render that the USA couldn't do without? They need the USA. The USA doesn't need them. Even if you're naive enough to call them allies, they've repeatedly dropped the ball, and they're not even pulling their own weight in that region. Until they clean up their act, they will continue to be a liability, not an asset. They don't get along with anybody. They're obnoxious and abrasive with everybody, even people who try to help them.

120 BiBi is getting all wee-wee'd up...  for dam good reason

121

Hey look, ITzbJsForEverybodyInStormfront, you putz:

We'd have a much easier time believing your vague talk of Israel "pulling its weight", if you hadn't shown your hand earlier when you critiqued Israel's founding.

And now you pull out the pushy obnoxious JewIsraeli canard, like that helps your case.

Ever look around the countries surrounding Israel? See a lot of democracies? Countries ranked high in economic freedom and prosperity? What's the religion of those countries - Buddhism perhaps? Something with a reputation for tolerance (and I'm not talking some bullshit "dhimma" pact with second- or third-class status)?

Israel did get along with Iran and then Turkey before they, too, decided they were Muslim. Coincidentally that also coincided with their turning away from Israel, which must be coincidence.

But by all means, keep fucking that chicken. Maybe you can get it to squawk the Horst Wessel Lied.

122

#121 - Yeah, well, Zimreil, pretty much everybody else on this planet shares my opinion on that issue to one extent or another. But you'll continue to have your delusions. They're all that enable you to reconcile your screwy positions on such issues.

It's just a suspicion, mind you, but I suspect that if the truth were known, you have been resentful and hateful of WASPs for your entire life, and so you project your own bigotry onto WASPs, accusing them of being Jew-haters.  You're dense, shallow and ignorant. I feel sorry for you. You're pitiful.

123 BTW, Reality check: For the past 60 years, Turkey has been this country's staunchest ally in the Middle East. How does that grab you, ye-without-a-freaking- clue-as to-what-has-been-going-on-out-here-in-the-real-world? LOL What a dumbass!!!!

124 Zimriel,

Why bother. It is so mind-bogglingly stupid that it doesn't even recognize its own moronic comments. I honestly don't think this is a troll.

It is a cock-sucking, puss-spewing Jew hater. That's what baseball bats and axe handles are for.

I used to see this kind of scum in Berkeley in the 1980s. Usually they were affiliated with the Spartacus League or one of the other idiot-filled communist organizations. They were very good at a certain kind of shallow argument, and would win the arguments out of sheer perseverance, but I and my friends always, and I mean always, won the fights.

125

What's really ridiculous is that it thinks I have a problem with WASPs. I didn't say shit about WASPs. I admit, I did talk some trash about British Near Eastern policy circa 1915-1955, which I think is within my bounds. But WASPs? The hell?

Oh wait, it assumes I'm Jewish. And of course Jews are resentful of WASPs.

(Even people who are only part Jewish although mostly English. It's that Jew-stain!)

What a putz. Also, what a wanker.

126

(Even people who are only part Jewish although mostly English. It's that Jew-stain!)

 

LOL - Because we're, um, compassionate conservatives, we'll give you an opportunity to rephrase that inane (and funny) comment.

Here's a hint that might help: English isn't a religion and Jewish isn't a nationality. LOL

_{(Dayum, playing with these dimwits is like taking candy from babies ...., or like rolling drunks.)}

127 And odds are Obama ;">Odrama Queen would join LEAD the ambush rather than prevent it.

There!  Fixed that for ya, Drew!

128 It is good to see that my glorious teachings have found purchase in the fertile minds of dupes - er - kommeraden like Dianne & Brian.

129

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130 So D & B is a hermaphrodite, right?

131

Oh wait, it assumes I'm Jewish. And of course Jews are resentful of WASPs.

(Even people who are only part Jewish although mostly English. It's that Jew-stain!)

What a putz. Also, what a wanker.

Posted by: Zimriel at April 09, 2010 07:39 PM (rtzHA)

 

LOL - Let's see if I've got this straight.

Finding himself on the defensive, Zimriel first implies that he is not Jewish, implying, also, that he is embarrassed about his heritage, and then, upon reflection and with hereditary (and perhaps even genetic) guilt, he says that he is only part Jewish, and mostly English, presumably proud that he is of English ancestory, but embarrassed that he had Jewish ancestors. Hmmmm, okay. LOL

So he's part Jewish, but mostly English, huh?  Um, yeah.  LOL - Makes you wonder, doesn't it, if his Jewish relatives pretend that they don't know dimwit, because he is so ditzy that actually he is an embarrassment to them?

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