1 I just read a Corner post about the first part, but the second is WIN.

Fish gotta swim, birds gotta fly, and Dems gotta lie.

2 Out of the shadows and over to California!

3 New Democratic Immigration Plan: Lie About What They WantAlso

Old Democrat Plan; Lie about everything.

4

Here's how you stop immigration.

http://bit.ly/cIHIsU

 

5 The difference in enrollment in my local public elementary between 2002 (when we bought our house and did our school research) and last year when we actually tried to use the school was UNBELIEVABLE. And the entirety of that increase was Spanish-speaking, to be frank. They had to keep adding trailers on, and are now begging for a 6000 square foot addition. In Pennsylvania. I cannot imagine the impact that early-Aughts illegal immigration had on places closer to the border (altho we had a very welcoming business environment, with mushroom farms, construction and the like).

6 You right-wingers are so wrong on this issue. You're nothing but racist evil hating haters who hate. It's going to kill you in the polls come November. You're gonna lose all the Hispanic vote.

So bring it on... wait... what...um... nevermind.

7 I rather doubt that legal immigrants are deserting Arizona out of fear, especially where they concede "no one has precise figures."  Rather that's probably where the narrative is headed once the law takes effect. Brace yourselves for nightly exposes about thousands of legal immigrants being rousted for being brown.

8
just Hispanics, eh? Bullshit.

No one is talking about Faisal Shithead's friend from Pakistan who entered the U.S. by swimming across the Rio Grande.

9 Twelve million? Are they fucking nuts? Not only are they math challenged but apparently they do not drive thru California. Do democrats get out much or do they sit in their living rooms, sipping wine, and talk about us idiot serfs and the next line of shit they are going to tell us?

In the gazillion articles I have read, not one of them has a figure as low as twelve million illegal aliens. Like all numbers proffered forth by the government, CPI, GDP, foreclosures and unemployment...why am I surprised that they minimized this number as well?

10 7. They are talking about the legal (anchor) children of illegal immigrants, I'd bet you. We have a lot of stories about that out here. The kiddalees are legal (anchor babies), mom dad uncle auntie tio tia etc etc are NOT.

11 The liberals will give them tough talk. Strong enforcement polices? No, not so much. They've got a base to motivate and illegals to convert into new voters.

Hell, Mr. I'm the only one who can beat Hillary used the same tactics and that failed because there were a lot of people who can actually read a bill and tell what it does.

The Republican RINOs touted all the new border controls and the "punishments in that bill. When the bill was actually read it was easy to tell all the "punishments and controls" were virtually impossible to implement and therefore would never be implemented.

IOW, it was just like the last bill with all the border controls that were never enforced.  It was amnesty-II and the people rose up on their hind legs and shot it down. 

I expect the same thing to happen to any bill they write now. The thing is, their latest tactic is to write 50 bills all saying something different, combine them in committee at the last minute, pass it without reading it, and let the people know how bad they are screwed after the fact.

I doubt if they will try anything on the immigration score this year anyway.  Like gun control, it has been proven to be a sure loser with the voters.
 

12 Obama has to push immigration reform(amnesty) because he'll need the votes for reelection. His problem is that he's screwed the country up so much that it probably won't happen this year and if he loses significant votes in the House and Senate, come November,  it won't happen the rest of his 1st term. His only hope™ is for the economy to rebound. Unfortunately for him, he's clueless on economics.

13 Someone has to help Harry Reid dig himself out of that really deep hole he got himself into.

Crimmigrants - doin' the work' gringos won't do!

14

There's no such thing as an illegal human!

Unless they don't eat my cookies.

15
Democrats lie?

Democrats use language and semantic deception to accomplish their agenda?

You betcha they do.

16 Call them “illegal immigrants,” not “undocumented workers,”

Leftists, call them whatever you want.  They are illegal aliens.  And you are traitors and imbeciles.  Along with Lindsay Grahamnesty and McShame, both of whom ought to be shipped out to Mexico, the pathetic pricks.  Lady Lindsay was pushing for amnesty on Greta, again, last night.  It's difficult to describe how much I truly hate that dick.

17 Though no one has precise figures, reports from school officials, businesses and individuals indicate worried Hispanics — both legal and illegal — are leaving the state in anticipation of the law, which will go into effect July 29.
...
"They're leaving to another state where they feel more welcome," he said.

You know what's so funny about this? If it's true they're headed for Los Angeles and San Francisco.

18 I really really resent the CBS coverage saying Arizona is having an exodus of Hispanics.  EVERY SINGLE Hispanic I know in Arizona is happy about this law.

It's an exodus of illegals, smugglers, kidnappers, murderers.  Sure, almost all of the illegals are from Mexico, but that's irrelevant.

Arizona is a great place for a Hispanic to live if they are, like me, from a legal immigrant family.

19 Well then we should keep these unlawful residents ou,t with a great big really high fence immediately.

Illegals -- Just stealing the jobs Americans used to have. And yes when they become Democrat voters they will still be stealing other Americans jobs.

Have you noticed, with Democrats, it's always their message that is broke, not their brain.

20
Call them community organizers. Everybody luvs them some community organizers.

21 I said, let's get back to talking about how awesome I am!!!

22 I support building a virtual fence.  It's just like a real fence except it doesn't exist.

23 It'll be fun to watch when TV talking heads forget the new directive and continue to call them undocumented workers. Like they still blather on about global warming.

24 Given the mood of the country right now, Democrats aren't going to get much mileage out of their new lies. There's no chance that Congress will take up a bill before the elections. Each side has the issue on the radar and that's enough politically for both.

I think the only one that pushing this is Brother Sen. Reid.  Being down 50-39, he's trying to fire up his base.  Throwing the rest of the Senate Dems under the bus so he can survive; he's taking great lessons from TheOne™.

25 I don't understand what the problem is. We are only talking 12 million. Surely we can afford to house, school, hospitalize, feed, clothe, and incarcerate that very small number. No problem.

We all got plenty of dough and thus taxes- growing out of our asses.

26

Now, Democrats emphasize that it’s “unacceptable” to allow 12 million people to live in America illegally and that the government must “require” them to register and “get right with the law.” That means three things: “Obey our laws, learn our language and pay our taxes” — or face deportation.

yeesh...them dems sure are slow on the uptake. Dems sock-puppeting conservatives...Eh, worked for Scott Brown. 

27
LOL on the "paying taxes" part.  Who do they think they are kidding?  Most of the folks democrats would turn from illegal to legal in an instant would be net tax receivers.  These illegals would be rewarded with all sorts of welfare state goodies and handouts.

The democrats will dignify illegal behavior and punish those who come here legally.
And they will do it with that sick liar smirk.

28 I'm cool with a virtual fence as long as I can pay virtual taxes.

29

"12 million" is a deliberately manufactured lie, designed to lull us into a false sense of security.

With anchor babies, we're talking anywhere from 40 million to 60 million [possibly higher].

 

30
The moral of the story:  In order for democrats to get elected, they have to fool people and pretend to be conservative.
Once elected, Democrats always shift back to the hard left. 

We the people?
Bunch of chumps and suckers.

31 It's amusing that they call themselves democrats, which seems to be some kind of admission that the people are right about the things government ought to do, yet they work so damn hard to adjust their message.  Never a direct "This is what we want to do".

They won't tell you they are going to allow Iran to go nuclear and abandon Israel.  They won't tell you they are in favor of adjusting our nation's voter demographics by importing new hyper dependent liberals.  They won't tell you that they have no problem with crushing debt or a stripped down military.

They have to dance around it.

32

You greedy fucks sure are sore about having to pay for people that want you and your way of life to die.

Get over it, and give us your money...and that includes after death. Mkay?

33 new lies

The lie doesn't need a purpose, the lie is its own purpose.

34

Talk more like Republicans.

...The 12 million people who unlawfully reside the country? Call them “illegal immigrants,” not “undocumented workers,” the pollsters say.

Yeah! Thats it..be mean and nasty and cruel like the evil Rethuglikans, that will get ya's votes!

 

35

Slightly OT - a Dem telling the truth:

Florida Dem candidate brags about death panels

36 Dems lie?  Color me shocked!

But they always have to lie, or at least twist language when describing to people their plans.  Because if most people knew the true intentions of the Dems...

37 A recent article in the Dallas newspaper talked all about how Dallas schools are becoming more and more dominated by Hispanics, so much so that African Americans are leaving and going to suburban schools. Maybe the folks in Arizona are coming here. Great, jfg!

38

Follow the money, biatches!

"Between 1995 and 2003, the official tally of Mexicans has climbed 56 percent, and median weekly wage has increased by 10 percent," the researchers found. "Yet total remittances jumped 199 percent over the same period. Even considering the declining costs of money transfers, the growth of remittances remains astounding."

Bear Stearns estimated over 20,000,000 in 2005. Assuming the previously documented rate of illegal entry of 4,000,000 a year, with about half that number staying, you wind up with between 25,000,000 to 30,000,000 illegals TODAY.

http://bit.ly/gzXJu

39 Though no one has precise figures, reports from school officials, businesses and individuals indicate worried Hispanics — both legal and illegal — are leaving the state in anticipation of the law, which will go into effect July 29.

Huh.

I live in Tucson and I'm not getting that sense at all.  Construction, specifically, new housing construction was a huge part of southern AZ's economy for quite a while.

Needless to say, that sector has kind of shit the bed the last few years.  I imagine that has far more to do with people leaving this state than anything.

As far as "reports" from school officials, pfft!

It'd be wiser to pay Joran Van Der Sloot an extra $50,000 to get the skinny on what really happened at the Taca Hotel, a plane ticket to Atlantic City and wait and see how that plays out.

"Reports" from what businesses?

I also call complete BS on Hispanics with no immigration issues whatsoever, packing up and leaving the state because of this law.

40

Florida Dem candidate brags about death panels

That guy has the bedside manner of Freddy Kruger.

41

Florida Dem candidate brags about death panels

He's 75, hopefully he'll get in front of one of those panels real soon.

42 I find it extremely hard to believe the exodus includes adults of legal residence. If anything, this is a huge win for them as it removes the primary source of under the table labor from the market, making more work for those working under legal requirements.

43

Lived in South Central for five years. Safest man in a 3 mile radius, because the Latinos and Blacks were all looking to kill each other. Beside the point.

When I moved there, it was 75% black. When I left 90% Latino. New citizens being born every 9 months. Not kidding. In high school, grades 8-10, not uncommon to have four kids there at the same time (it was impossible to fail, social promotion, 90% dropout rate).

Most people think I'm making this shit up. Inner city LA looks and acts like Tijuana. Coming to a neighborhood near you in ???? years.

Guess I'm racist, huh?

44

Old and busted:  Amnesty for undocumented workers
Teh New Hotness:  Amnesty for illegal immigrants

45 #35 Thanks for the link.

'`Now you say, well, that's a `death panel.' Well, you know what, when you get to be 85 or 90 years old, you're going to die. And I'm sorry, you call it, Sarah Palin, what you want, but the fact is that it is absurd for us to be spending the types of money we're spending to extend life three months.''
No apologies to Sarah for accurately calling it were forthcoming.

46

the unions in nevada (kid lives here a union guy) as afl cio , have an immigration poilicy to assist illegal immigration

so the taking jobs americans won't do, is a fib.

union members making 20-30 dollars an hour,  with bennies?really the jobs you won't do?

47 Exactly, just getting to point out that I don't hear the "doing jobs Americans won't do" BS much nowadays.

48

Jesus, high school is grades 9-12. I'm a putz.

49 Jesus, high school is grades 9-12. I'm a putz. Posted by: gator at June 10, 2010 04:34 PM (XBdMr) Jesus went to high school? Was that Jerusalem High or did he go to private school?

50 49

Jesus, high school is grades 9-12. I'm a putz.

Posted by: gator at June 10, 2010 04:34 PM (XBdMr)

Where I gew up was 10-12 grades for high school, 9th grade was still jr high

51 A christian school.

52 Imagine what might happen if there were no states where illegal aliens felt welcome. It isn't hard to do.

Nothing to cheat or lie for
No anchor babies, too

53 Damn you TDP; Lennon on the brain is not cool.

54

There wasn't one Mexican in my high scool when I went.Spanish was an elective.The only foreigners we had were exchange students.and they were shipped out stat as soon as the year was up.I cannot believe how so much has changed in 30 years.Truly sad.

55 Not only has Mitt written a great op-ed that continues to build the narrative that Obama simply cannot lead, but heÂ’s also working night and day to help make November as great an election for us as possible. I had no idea how much heÂ’s been doing since so much of it is behind the scenes, but look at the last
101 Days in the Life of Mitt Romney

56

¿Quíen es más guapo?

¿Felípe Calderon o Ricardo Montebón?

57

Have to post this every time the left calls for “reform”.

 

Yes we need immigration reform, but NOT what has been rolled out the last half dozen times. Every bill that has come out since the first major rewrite in 1965 has basically been amnesty and open invitation for illegals to flood across the border.

 

We are no longer the country of the 19th century with vast open areas in the West. Our cities are overcrowded shit holes run by corrupt communist hacks AND there is no longer a vast area open for the inhabitants to flee to and take up farming.

This is not to mention that we have entire towns in CA with a population > 20,000 in which none of the citizens speak English.  The current crew of "immigrants" do not appear to desire to assimilate and the current crowd of liberals do not think they should. The schools have gone from teaching America as a mixing pot to America as a salad bowl where "diversity" is celebrated and heritage counts for all, unless you have a European heritage then you are a racist.

Yes, there are a lot of things that need to be done to "fix" our immigration laws.  The first one of these should be to repeal that POS of Amnesty Round I that got us where we are today.

We need immigration law that does the following AND that is enforced:

1. Eliminate the BS anchor baby interpretation by providing a definition of what the term “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” means, which is not dashing across the border to deliver a baby.  Personally, I would require that at least one of the parents of any child born in the U.S. be a citizen before that child was eligible for “birthright” citizenship. If not, then the child would have to undergo naturalization.
2. Provide a reliable means for employers to check the status of employees.
3. Provide severe punishments for knowingly hiring illegals (or reckless disregard). That punishment should include jail time for repeat violations.  
4. Eliminate ALL benefits for illegals including schools for children.
5. Rewrite legal immigration to allow in immigrants with a desirable education and/or skill set and arrange the waiting list to have the most skilled/educated at the top of the list. (Australian system) Also include a check for communicable diseases (as we did in the past) and provide for immunization. Immigrants from countries on the list of terror support need not apply.
6. For groups that already have large populations in the U.S. who have not assimilated, reduce the allowable numbers until they do (eliminate whole towns that do not speak English)
7. Provide severe penalties for mules.
8. Provide the death penalty for people involved in sex slavery.
9. Eliminate all forms of asylum. That system has been abused to the point of making it a joke. Any true case that needs to be let in should be a case by case special act passed by congress. Get them on record.
10. Immigrants who become involved in any serious crime prior to becoming a citizen should be deported back to their home country.
11. Absolutely no dual citizenship allowed.

58 It's difficult to describe how much I truly hate that dick.

I can see why so many people hate McCain. He's still better than Hayworth, who would (again) put a Democrat in a safe Republican district.

59 Though no one has precise figures, reports from school officials, businesses and individuals indicate worried Hispanics — both legal and illegal — are leaving the state in anticipation of the law

So, the legal ones are the anchor babies... Some one needs to tell them that mommy and daddy will feel safer in Mexico, they can get honest jobs, and stop being parasites.

60 seiu the same ;Endorsed by 32BJ and 1199SEIU, the Domestic Workers Bill of Rights (Bill S2311C)will provide an estimated 200,000 domestic workers--regardless of immigration status--with basic workplace guarantees that most of us take for granted. Although the legislation doesn't stipulate an hourly wage, it will allow workers to organize

61

Where I gew up was 10-12 grades for high school, 9th grade was still jr high

Me, too, Jim. Haven't seen any schools like that today. Easier for the ninth graders to stay behind, in my experience.

Where I taught, 1000 freshmen went in, only 100 seniors graduated. Of the graduates, only 4% took the necessary classes to attend a four year college.

62 It's difficult to describe how much I truly hate that dick. ??? Who invited Rosie?

63 Lie About What They WantI've noticed that this is becoming a standard theme for them. They always mis-represented and all that, and to be fair, R's do it to, but this has gone to a whole new level.

It became all too obvious in the health care debate. There was simply no way they couldn't know about the costs. No way, and yet they not only lied, but excoriated their opponents who were telling the truth.

64 I have to clarify that there is nothing wrong with Mexicans I'ts just that we didn't have any illegal aliens.There weren't many in Massachussetts back in the 70's.Hope I didn't make any enemies!

65

Little known facts about immigration that the left (plus Lindsey Graham and upto a short time ago, John McCain) lie about already:

http://tinyurl.com/a668f

 

66 What is it you guys say?:  "Rove, you magnificent bastard"...
"Bush delivers 'inaugural address' on Facebook laying out post-presidency works"

Video

67 OT: Weiner (D-NY) Penetrated By Goat In Park http://bit.ly/dxvQd3

68 and arrange the waiting list to have the most skilled/educated at the top of the list. (Australian system)

"Throw another shrimp on the barbie!" Canada's system would be fine, where there is a checklist of criteria not just "All doctors and millionaires welcome!" Because first, terrorists will game that system. Second, you want your citizens to strive for high-earning jobs, otherwise you have Germany, where the young collect unemployment, and the economy stagnates.

69
the weiner story is in the sidebar

I hope he's pregnant.

70 I think the thing about immigration is that America loves immigrants, just on their terms, ie, you need to come here legally and according to the quotas.  It doesn't matter from whence you come....it does matter the way in which you do it.  

Honestly, though, the mexican illegals are behaving like a bunch of entitled brats and a lot of people are beginning to dislike them as a group.  The most vocal group, angry at this bunch are the Mexicans who came here legally.  Geez they are worse than reformed smokers and give you an earful even if you don't want it....and they are very patriotic and hard working.

71 Florida Dem candidate brags about death panels

Retired?
Plagued by aggravating age related illness?
Having a hard time shaking the blues?
Tried a few solutions that have come up short?
We have an approach we guarantee is the final solution you'll need!

72 As it is now, enforcement is always tacked on at the end in the most unserious of ways possible, including a whole series of escape hatches to not do any enforcement at all.

Once we stop or at least cut illegal immigration by 90%, IÂ’m willing to think about all these other ideas, but not until that happens. Period

73 Yes they lie, and you know how they get away with lying? The fucking media, that's how. Most of our problems in what's supposedly a representative republic can be traced to the fucking media.

74

Now, Democrats emphasize that it’s “unacceptable” to allow 12 million people to live in America illegally and that the government must “require” them to register and “get right with the law.” That means three things: “Obey our laws, learn our language and pay our taxes” — or face deportation.

The rubber will meet the road when we watch the US Conference of Bishops backtracking to maintain formation with their political allies. They ignored ever bit of graft, dishonesty and chicanery in Obamacare, and gave only some opposition to the abortion provisions. Both before and after this, they have been touting 'comprehensive immigration law reform'. They have also been pushing heavily the undocumented immigrant crap. Here in the Diocese of Wilmington, the political barrage has been incessant for years.

75

It worked for healthcare, didn't it?

Party of No

Bush's fault

It's for the children

76

WHAT THE FUCK???  

Explain to me why losing these illegal deadbeats is a bad thing.

Here's my advice to them.

 

GET THE FUCK OUT OF ARIZONA AND DON'T COME BACK.  YOU ARE NOT WELCOME THERE.

77
thanks for linking the GWB vid, curious george.

It's nice to President Bush again.

George W. Bush Policy Institute? Could be veeery interesting.

78 but the fact is that it is absurd for us to be spending the types of money we're spending to extend life three months.''

Unless it's your mother, and you like her. The government looks at the amount of money spent in the last third of life and says, "We'll take that, too."

Democrats are despicable human beings.

79 #29 Lindsey Grahamnesty licking Rahm Emanuel's salty, shaven balls & #38 Jim in Chicago

No SHIT.
How many years have they been throwing the 12 Million number at us? Crap, we were hearing it from Bush, we were hearing it from Juan McAmnesty and the One. And we're supposed to just think it's a static number?

There's 12 fucking million just in my town of 40k people.

80

Party of No

Bush's fault

It's for the Brown children

_{...and fixed!}

81 "77

It worked for healthcare, didn't it?

Party of No

Bush's fault

It's for the children

Posted by: punch drunk guy at June 10, 2010 04:48 PM (iV4X6)"

"fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me"

82
There's over 600 taco trucks in LA, 350 in San Diego, and over 400 in San Francisco.  That accounts for a few million munching beef, fish, and pork tacos daily.  The balance are in the California penal system awaiting trial or release on the taxpayer's dime. 

Oh yea, there are a few flat-backing near the border checkpoints. 

83 Posted by: Dan at June 10, 2010 04:39 PM (9L1z6)

You do realize that you come across as a complete tool, don't you?

I hope to gawd that you are not formally associated with Romney.

He was my guy for '08 but he has some huge issues to overcome at this point in time. 

I wish him well and will give him the benefit of the doubt to some degree but tools like yourself make that awfully unpalatable.

84
Leftists, call them whatever you want.  They are illegal aliens.

The most precise term is "fucking criminals".

85 ees it safe to come out, yet?

86 Ok, just got told by one of my clueless uber lib friends that "you wouldn't want to get into a war with Mexico over the illegal situation would you"....
ugh ugh ugh ugh....

87

_{Posted by: Fish at June 10, 2010 04:54 PM (v1gw3)}

I can account for a few of those Fish Tacos each week!

88 The fevered tones of the journalists like those at USA Toady are as obnoxious as they are selective.

Oklahoma passed in 2007 a law similar to the one recently passed in AZ. How come there are no articles comparing the two states?

Perhaps one reason is that unemployment in OK is only 6.6%, damn near the 'full-employment' range oft cited by economists and much better that the national average of 9.7%.

89 Honestly, though, the mexican illegals are behaving like a bunch of entitled brats and a lot of people are beginning to dislike them as a group.

They entered this country with that ridiculous air of entitlement. "Sure, I have no skills, nothing to offer, and I would rather skip the line." Many are actually criminals in Mexico.

90
Posted by: Dan at June 10, 2010 04:39 PM (9L1z6)

Feck off.

91

There's 12 fucking million just in my town of 40k people.

There were 250,000 illegals in the flophouses on my street in LA.

92 On illegals:

Many are actually criminals in Mexico.

All are actually criminals in the United States.

93

I can account for a few of those Fish Tacos each week!

Posted by: Rosie at June 10, 2010 04:56 PM (Kj8VC)

Well Rosie, that explains your rather ample ass.  It also needs kicking.

94 I love this paragraph: "Though no one has precise figures, reports from school officials, businesses and individuals indicate worried Hispanics — both legal and illegal — are leaving the state in anticipation of the law, which will go into effect July 29."

We are left to wonder why LEGAL immigrants would feel the pressure to leave. Racism? Profiling? Hostile environment? OR are legal immigrants leaving because of the other illegals in their families? Maybe mom and dad are illegal so they take their legal kids with them?

MFM giving us a bread crumb trail leading to their agenda.

95

_{Garbonzo the Garrulous at June 10, 2010 04:57 PM (zgd5N)}

Don't think your cloaked Hate will be tolerated, Garrulous BEAN!

I'm sending this off to WhiteHouse.snitch with a screen capture.

Their 'Diversity Czar' will be contacting you shortly about Re-Doctrination Seminars in your area.

96   curious 72 I think the thing about immigration is that America loves immigrants, just on their terms, ie, you need to come here legally and according to the quotas.  It doesn't matter from whence you come....it does matter the way in which you do it.  exactly come through the fron door. fidelity to becoming an american in ideas, be honest support yourself.

97

Ok, just got told by one of my clueless uber lib friends that "you wouldn't want to get into a war with Mexico over the illegal situation would you"....

I sure would. Regime Change closer to home. Conquer Mexico, impose a rule of law on the place, rule over it temporarily with a MacArthurish regency for a few years. (is retired General Schwarzkopf busy?)

98 52 A christian school.
________________

Hardly. Jesus is the one person who can't be a Christian.

It's like TV ads I've seen selling fences to protect your children from unfenced ditches and streams. Those are precisely the ones a fence can't protect you against; once you put up a fence, it's no longer unfenced.

99

Jesus went to high school? Was that Jerusalem High or did he go to private school?

 

Probably a public school in Germany or Poland. Well?? He was Jewish wasn't he?

100 ""They're leaving to another state where they feel more welcome," he said."

Wonder where that might be.

1. New Mexico?  Likely many are going there.  New Mexico really has no issues with "illegals".

2. Utah?  Utah is actually pretty soft on illegals.  The LDS church likes to get them into the church in exchange for benefits (private church benefits) such as things like the Relief Society can provide.

3. California?  Not likely.  California is already up to its eyeballs in illegals.  All the cheap housing is taken and there must be 100 guys in front of every Home Depot already looking for day labor.

4. Someplace where it is cold during the winter.  Midwestern and Eastern states love the illegals.

101 John Adams explains the Undoing of the Democrats

Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence

102 Posted by: SantaRosaStan at June 10, 2010 05:23 PM (JrRME)

Have you not heard of the spin meisters?

103 Imagine what might happen if there were no states where illegal aliens felt welcome. It isn't hard to do.

Wait...wait...I'm getting a vision of such a place...

...the vision is starting to clarify...its pretty clear now...

I got it -- that place is called ummm....Mexico.

104 Vic's suggestions at @58 were far more comprehensive than mine but he is spot on.

I would submit that not only do we have an illegal immigration problem but profound dysfunction in our legal immigration policy which only serves to generate and exacerbate illegal immigration problems.

Two suggestions:

A.) No more chain migration.  The only family members given priority are spouse and kids.  Period. 

Can't bear to leave your aged parents in the care of your shiftless siblings in your fucked up home country? Then don't. Stay there and take care of them.  Your choice.  Will it make you sad to permanently leave your family?  Yes it will, as it should but setting up a new American family in the US has historically been a big draw for certain types.

(Do you ever wonder why it takes so long to "wait in line"?  A big part of this has to do with the 30 or so "relations" of naturalized citizens who "have a right" to legally immigrate to the US and clog up the system claiming that "right".)

B.) No more birth-right citizenship.  At least one of the parents must be a legal resident (note, I'm not even saying citizen) and that child must have spent at least 10 of his first 15 years living in the U.S..  Dual citizenship for these kids is obviously, right out.  Is Jr. an American or a Turk?  You decide.

105 95  I can account for a few of those Fish Tacos each week!

Posted by: Rosie at June 10, 2010 04:56 PM (Kj8VC) 

- - - -

Well Rosie, that explains your rather ample ass.  It also needs kicking.

- - - -

The "fish tacos" Rosie prefers, not gonna add pounds. Jus' sayin'...

106 Dear Democrats,
You fucking idiots. You have to TURN THE WATER OFF, before you start to mop up the mess.

The Plumber

107 1. New Mexico?  Likely many are going there.  New Mexico really has no issues with "illegals".

I wouldn't be too sure about that.  When I lived there, briefly, in the '90's, I was made very aware of a weird cultural antipathy that many Hispanic "New Mexicans" had for "wetbacks".

Sure, I'm a clerk at Walgreens but I have 300 years of history to ennoble me.

Not kidding.

108 I can authoritively say that Americans care more about what politicians say they will do than what politicians actually do.

109 I think it was Jay Leno who said,  Whos says you can't deport 12 million people?  Mexico did it.

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New Democratic Immigration Plan: Lie About What They Want

Democrats lying?  That's what's called "continuity", isn't it?

111 "but the fact is that it is absurd for us to be spending the types of money we're spending to extend life three months.''

If you let people keep their own money and invest it themselves and buy insurance themselves, then it's none of your business how they spend it.

But the whole idea of private property is alien to leftists.

112 Whos says you can't deport 12 million people?  Mexico did it.

Nice.

113 "B.) No more birth-right citizenship. At least one of the parents must be a legal resident (note, I'm not even saying citizen) and that child must have spent at least 10 of his first 15 years living in the U.S.. Dual citizenship for these kids is obviously, right out. Is Jr. an American or a Turk? You decide." Great. You just made the kids of US military deployed overseas into non-citizens. AWESOME! I have another idea - let's make it illegal for Americans to live and work overseas at all. And how about making it illegal for an American to fall in love with an marry a foreigner? That'll stop those half-foreign kids from claimin' red white and blue.

114 let's make it illegal for Americans to live and work overseas at all.

Finally, someone's getting some use out of me.

115

@100: "Jesus is the one person who can't be a Christian"

He can't believe in himself?

Next thing, you'll be telling me he can't hit a curveball, either

116

So the Democrats are toughening up on illegal immigrants:

"Oh no, we're not going to give you amnesty. We are going to force you to take it! And you'll say 'Thank you, sir!'

Then, we're going to pull your hair and put out our cigarette on your nipple. Yeah"

117 "let's make it illegal for Americans to live and work overseas at all." "Finally, someone's getting some use out of me." "wild ass nonsequitor" Sure, so say your company sends you to Hong Kong for a 7 year stint. But that means your kid who is born there cannot fulfill Deety's 10/15 years rule to be a "true" citizen. Thus, you would decline the posting. Is that illogical? Would you want to risk your kid's citizenship by working overseas for anything more than temporary assignment? Oh, and Deety, the Americans who work and live overseas have to pay taxes - so you want money from us, but won't consider the kids we have as "real Americans": stay classy.

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