June 25, 2010
— Ace Sort of, as they at least ponder the question of whether he's the best governor in the country. Or the worst, as they of course have to ask, too.
But they concede he's definitely the most robust and transformative.
In short, Christie is governing like a one-termer, enacting every conservative proposal he campaigned on and mounting, as Weigel puts it, "the most energetic challenge to the liberal consensus [anyone] can remember."It's no surprise that liberal New Jerseyans are not happy with the painful sacrifices that Christie is demanding—some of my friends and relatives among them. But anyone on either side of the aisle who's fed up with our focus-grouped, winning-is-everything political culture should be watching Governor Bully closely. Christie's crusade is not about 2012 or 2016; he doesn't seem to mind being unpopular. Instead, it's about testing conservative principles against the hard stuff of reality. New Jersey's constitution endows the governor with more power than most of his counterparts, and so far Christie has not been shy about exercising it.
As a result, the Garden State has suddenly become a fascinating test case for GOP governance: can a conservative response ameliorate this fiscal crisis, at least on the state level? Can Republican leadership—as opposed to the Republican oppositionism we see in Washington—actually solve problems? If the notoriously misgoverned (and largely ungovernable) New Jersey considers itself better off in a few years' time—if businesses are moving back to the state, if unemployment is down, if the budget deficits are under control, if the balance between taxes and services is more reasonable—Chris Christie will deserve most of the credit. If not--and there's reason to think that might be the case--conservative policymaking will suffer a blow. Rarely are the battle lines so clearly drawn.
Weigel and Co. are correct, in other words, to point out that what's happening in New Jersey right now is the real deal. But it's the policy implications that are interesting, not the politics—at least for the moment.
Chris Christie
You can't stop 'm. You can only hope to contain 'm.
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People in NJ don't want to face up to the facts. Christie is smart enough to know that.
I think if the economy improves and NJ finances are a lot better by the next election, he's got a good shot for a 2nd term.
Posted by: JEA at June 25, 2010 06:30 AM (AfORa)
Posted by: Jean at June 25, 2010 06:31 AM (XSlA+)
But anyone on either side of the aisle who's fed up with our focus-grouped, winning-is-everything political culture should be watching Governor Bully closely.
Governor Bully?
Posted by: kallisto at June 25, 2010 06:31 AM (+FkcS)
If only The Robust One wanted to run for POTUS. Sigh.
Posted by: joncelli at June 25, 2010 06:32 AM (c4gj8)
I think this might be the first time I've seen Ace post before noon in . . . um, have I ever seen that, actually?
Posted by: Hal at June 25, 2010 06:33 AM (MftY/)
Opposition to treason and stupidity IS leadership. I really get tired of this asinine theme. Don't these fools get tired of writing such bullshit?
Is there some reason we just had a post about how much of a douche this Weigel character is and then we this douche-written link that shows what a twerp the guy is?
-->"the most energetic challenge to the liberal consensus [anyone] can remember."
Huh? No one remembers Reagan? No one remembers the Contract for America? No one remembers what Bunning, Bachmann, DeMint and others have been doing for years?
Posted by: Libtard Economologist at June 25, 2010 06:34 AM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: Ludicrous Speed at June 25, 2010 06:35 AM (opI0g)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 25, 2010 06:35 AM (0GFWk)
Chris Christie
You can't stop 'm. You can only hope to contain 'm.
And that ain't bean bag, boys.
Posted by: Chris Christie's Belt at June 25, 2010 06:35 AM (5aa4z)
Wow! Newsweek's circulation just skyrocketed to 12!
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 25, 2010 06:35 AM (r1h5M)
Lib head explodes in 5, 4, 3, ---Obama's NOT unpopular, I and everybody I know love him!! --- crisis avoided; cocoon intact.
Posted by: jimmuy at June 25, 2010 06:36 AM (fOKRF)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 25, 2010 06:36 AM (0GFWk)
They're terrified that Christie will be successful. The idea that New Jersey could enjoy a resurgence under conservative leadership scares the ever-living shit out of them.
Ace, what are you doing up before noon?
Posted by: Dang Straights at June 25, 2010 06:37 AM (fx8sm)
Wow! Newsweek's circulation just skyrocketed to 12!
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 25, 2010 10:35 AM (r1h5M)
Cool. When they get to a baker's dozen, they plan on floating a secondary stock issue.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 25, 2010 06:37 AM (Qp4DT)
Fat man cutting out the fat--I'm surprised that Newsweak doesn't see this as some sign of self-loathing and self mutilation.
Posted by: runningrn at June 25, 2010 06:37 AM (CfmlF)
You can't stop 'm. You can only hope to go out to dinner with him
And hope that he eats you last!
Posted by: runningrn at June 25, 2010 06:38 AM (CfmlF)
ALWAYS.
And the Democrats are the party of the "little guy".
Also, Santa Claus is real.
Posted by: tsj017 at June 25, 2010 06:39 AM (4YUWF)
Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at June 25, 2010 06:39 AM (ps0+9)
The writer starts his article with the claim that the state of NJ is "demanding" one of his retired school teacher parents gives up their health insurance and signs on as the spouse's dependent.
I'd like to see that letter to determine if it is in fact a demand.
And what's wrong with the author's parents, are they too consumed by greed to give something up for the common good? Don't they remember, Obama and his lovely wife have been calling us all to SACRIFICE?
Posted by: kallisto at June 25, 2010 06:39 AM (+FkcS)
Support Governor Christie's Budget Solutions & Cap 2.5 Reforms
With the July 1 deadline for the FY 2011 budget fast approaching, Governor Chris Christie's proposed $29.4 billion budget has cleared two important hurdles. The Senate and Assembly budget committees have voted to send the Governor's budget to both houses for final vote early next week.
We are one step closer to fiscal stability. One step closer to responsible government. One step closer to a balanced budget.
Governor Christie is keeping his campaign promise by closing an $11 billion deficit, WITHOUT RAISING TAXES. He is looking out for New Jersey taxpayers like YOU who are tired of crippling taxes, sky-high property taxes, and out of control spending.
Republicans are taking the lead to put New Jersey back on the right track, but we still need your help! TAKE ACTION TODAY by calling your local legislators and telling them to vote "YES" for Governor Christie's budget. Don't forget to remind them to support the Governor's proposed Constitutional Amendment that will give property tax relief to all New Jerseyans - Cap 2.5!
Find out how to contact your local legislators HERE.
We need your support to pass Governor Christie's budget next week. TAKE ACTION NOW and tell your friends, family and neighbors to call their legislators to ask them to support the GovernorÂ’s budget. With your help, we will make New Jersey affordable again.
Posted by: Ludicrous Speed at June 25, 2010 06:41 AM (opI0g)
In short, Christie is governing like a one-termer, enacting every conservative proposal he campaigned on and mounting, as Weigel puts it, "the most energetic challenge to the liberal consensus [anyone] can remember."
When Obama goes ahead with every liberal issue he campaigned on they are full of praise but when Christie does the same on the conservative side then he is a one-termer. By the same token, so is Obama.
Posted by: Decaf at June 25, 2010 06:42 AM (NooBZ)
You can't stop 'm. You can only hope to contain 'm. that the crushing pain of trying to do so will be over mercifully fast.
FIFY
Posted by: sherlock at June 25, 2010 06:43 AM (ZrS0c)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 25, 2010 06:43 AM (ucxC/)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 25, 2010 06:43 AM (mR7mk)
My wife is going to be pissed when she finds out that I am in love with our governor.
Posted by: NJConservative at June 25, 2010 06:44 AM (LH6ir)
Posted by: beasn at June 25, 2010 06:45 AM (aiWtu)
Obama's been pretty open about being content with one term as long as he gets to wreck America.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 25, 2010 06:45 AM (mR7mk)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 25, 2010 10:43 AM (ucxC/)
I think it was part of the Newsweek article...
Posted by: Ludicrous Speed at June 25, 2010 06:45 AM (opI0g)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 25, 2010 06:46 AM (f9c2L)
WTF?
Posted by: Editor at June 25, 2010 10:45 AM (pUfK9)
My supposistion is Ace has not been to sleep yet. Long night of cosplay dressed as an Ewok.
Posted by: Ludicrous Speed at June 25, 2010 06:46 AM (opI0g)
Hahahaha. But did he apologize to BP???
The problem here is it took many decades of commie governance in NJ to get it where it is now and it will take at least a decade of Christie action to start it on a recovery trend. If he doesn't make it back for a total of at least 8 years the commies will just undo what he started and then they will point to the failure and say "told you so, its Bush's fault".
Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2010 06:47 AM (6taRI)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 25, 2010 06:47 AM (Aqzx6)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 25, 2010 06:47 AM (f9c2L)
My wife is going to be pissed when she finds out that I am in love with our governor.
Posted by: NJConservative at June 25, 2010 10:44 AM (LH6ir) Man-crushes are ok, as long as you don't start bulk shipping Crispy Cremes to Trenton. That's my territory.
Posted by: Ludicrous Speed at June 25, 2010 06:48 AM (opI0g)
Obama's been pretty open about being content with one term as long as he gets to wreck America.
That's just a cover for when he loses.
Posted by: Decaf at June 25, 2010 06:48 AM (NooBZ)
Posted by: NJConservative
What if she's kinda relieved? just askin'
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 25, 2010 06:49 AM (f9c2L)
Gov McConnell in Virginia is doing the same, and he is polling in the low 60s. Seems like the consensus is shifting.
Posted by: bill-tb at June 25, 2010 06:50 AM (y+QfZ)
ALWAYS.
And the Democrats are the party of the "little guy".
Also, Santa Claus is real.
Posted by: tsj017 at June 25, 2010 10:39 AM (4YUWF)
And angry. Never forget that Republicans and conservatives are always angry
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2010 06:50 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 25, 2010 06:50 AM (ucxC/)
Posted by: Editor at June 25, 2010 06:50 AM (pUfK9)
Obama's been pretty open about being content with one term as long as he gets to wreck America.
That's just a cover for when he loses.
Posted by: Decaf at June 25, 2010 10:48 AM (NooBZ)
Agreed, if he loses, you'll see a bigger hissy fit than the one Gore-acle threw after 2000.
Posted by: Ludicrous Speed at June 25, 2010 06:50 AM (opI0g)
" You can't stop him, you can only hope to contain him"
I love it. My ultimate fantasy political debate would be to have Christie square off against Obammy and simply beat him like a rented mule. and he is just the type who could do it. Of course I know he has said that he is not ready and that there is zero chance of him running, but a lot can change in a year. This guy would electrify the right.
Posted by: exceller at June 25, 2010 06:52 AM (jx2Td)
Posted by: NJConservative at June 25, 2010 10:44 AM (LH6ir)
Yeah, caught that. It's one of those bittersweet interviews where you love what he says so much that you wish he was lying, but then you really can't 'cause then you wouldn't like what he was saying.
Heartache.
Posted by: Editor at June 25, 2010 06:52 AM (pUfK9)
Hah!
I'm here 'til Thursday -- try the veal!
Posted by: NJConservative at June 25, 2010 10:51 AM (LH6ir)
What no rim shot?
Posted by: Ludicrous Speed at June 25, 2010 06:53 AM (opI0g)
Posted by: Crusty at June 25, 2010 06:53 AM (GvSpB)
"Instead, it's about testing conservative principles against the hard stuff of reality. "
What a stupid thing to say... the hard stuff of reality is that the libs left the state deep in the hole. I have no idea what that has to do with "conservative principles" unless they're suggesting that this will be a test of whether conservative principles can work when the patient has been headed for a coma for years. (And I doubt almost anyone at Newsweek thinks anything thoutght of by anyone to the right of Joe Lieberman will ever work. Hye. maybe what NJ needs in s Stimulus Package! Biden can come and campaign for it! Ooh, I made myself laugh.)
Posted by: Ira at June 25, 2010 06:54 AM (bJm7W)
Here's what's going to happen. He's going to enact a bunch of stuff that could solve many of New Jersey's problems if given the chance, but it is impossible for him, in one term, to undue the problems created in NJ by decades of liberal ideology.
And, he is very likely going to lose the next election to a dem b/c the voters will be upset by the cuts, etc., he is making.
the next Governor and dem legislature will then start enacting more liberal idiocy, and/or repealing Christie's policies.
Finally, NJ will be back where it is now or worse and the media will claim that conservatism has been shown to not work. This despite the fact that it was never given a chance and they never say that about liberalism, despite the evidence all around us of 50+ years of liberal policy (Not to mention Europe and all the communist/socialist countries).
Posted by: Monkeytoe at June 25, 2010 06:54 AM (sOx93)
And what's wrong with the author's parents, are they too consumed by greed to give something up for the common good? Don't they remember, Obama and his lovely wife have been calling us all to SACRIFICE?
The sacrifice part was to be borne by Republicans and conservatives. The Left considers they've already been deprived by not being permanently in power.
Posted by: Decaf at June 25, 2010 06:54 AM (NooBZ)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 25, 2010 06:57 AM (zgZzy)
Posted by: AE at June 25, 2010 06:58 AM (kSfPT)
What's wrong with the author? Why should I subsidize his bus fare? How about paying his fair share of the cost of the ride? Or does he mean that he wants something for nothing?
He's a smarmy little hack: full of backhanded compliments and open-ended criticisms. But in a few years when his job is gone because his industry simply can't compete in the 21st century, I will enjoy thinking of his gasping defense of the welfare state.
Posted by: NJConservative at June 25, 2010 06:59 AM (LH6ir)
61 Anytime I get to a point in an article that says something like "as Weigel puts it" I immediately move on to the next article.
Unless you're talking about pron star Teri Weigel . . .
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 25, 2010 07:00 AM (zgZzy)
He has already done what Christie is trying to do.
Posted by: Timbo at June 25, 2010 07:01 AM (ph9vn)
Why would you read about her?
Maybe she's writing the great American novel . . . about blumpkins.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 25, 2010 07:04 AM (zgZzy)
Posted by: Denny Crane at June 25, 2010 07:05 AM (I+7Zv)
Should living within your means raise an eyebrow? Hell no, but thanks to the triumvirate of Osama Obama and his insane lapdogs Pelosi and Reid -- aided by Bawney Fwank and the rest of the grasping, delusional fools in Congress -- the notion that money for the government to lavish on its pals has become the norm.
If any normal citizen attempted to run their financial lives the government way, they'd be in jail or, at a minimum, living in a cardboard box.
The fact that Republicans in Congress only mouth criticism -- while trying to pump money into their own pet projects -- shows how far we have fallen.
Christie is sensible. Among modern so-called "servants of the people" that makes him unusual, to say the least. An object of curiosity and speculation for merely trying to do right.
Sad. Sick.
Posted by: Wannabe Crazed Sex Poodle at June 25, 2010 07:05 AM (Ulu3i)
Man, I loves me some Christie. I might just stay in this state.
Next stop, open carry!
Posted by: Johnny I (livin' in Jerz) at June 25, 2010 07:06 AM (ZyYZ0)
Posted by: Peggy West-- Geography Extraordinaire at June 25, 2010 07:06 AM (pLTLS)
Oh, I don't know. They seem to be pretty clearly drawn at the Fed level now, and it isn't going well for the incumbents and their policies.
Posted by: pep at June 25, 2010 07:07 AM (YXmuI)
I hate disingenuous shit like that, Republicans are in the minority in Washington so of course a huge chunk of their efforts will be opposing the majority. Same would be true if Dems were the minority, but of course then Newsweek and the rest of the media would just paint the Dem minority as the true representatives of the people and the Republican majority as out of touch obstructionists.
Posted by: koopy at June 25, 2010 07:08 AM (awinc)
As evidence.
84 no doubt her policies would appeal to many Republicans
Posted by: Michael Collins at June 21, 2010 09:04 AM (I+7Zv)
Posted by: Y-not at June 25, 2010 07:09 AM (Kn9r7)
More complete thought.
Posted by: Wannabe Crazed Sex Poodle at June 25, 2010 07:09 AM (Ulu3i)
That's what gags are for.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at June 25, 2010 07:13 AM (z4es9)
I'd hit it. I wouldn't do her unless I was deaf. Whatever she does with her vocal chords during sex sounds like nails on a chalkboard while a roomful of squirrels excitedly stash a thousand nuts in Barney Fwanks backside.
Yeah, it's definitely distracting from the task at hand . . . or wiener.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 25, 2010 07:14 AM (zgZzy)
I personally think Mitch Daniels is the best Governor in the US.
I live in Indiana, so I'm inclined to disagree. Unless all the other governors really REALLY suck.
Posted by: Damn Skippy at June 25, 2010 07:16 AM (VDgKF)
In order to "declare a truce" you have to first engage in the battle. All this praise of Christie and demonization of Daniels neglects the fact that Christie never was on the side of social cons.
Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2010 07:16 AM (6taRI)
Daniels mis spoke.. what he meant and has said is that arguing over abortion doesnt make much sense when our republic could collapse.
Posted by: Timbo at June 25, 2010 07:18 AM (ph9vn)
End Times are now officially here, peeps. End Times.
About damn time.. now, lets see, sandwitch board is in the basement, Moses robes are in the closet.. but where the hell did I put that big ass bell?
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 25, 2010 07:18 AM (e8T35)
I live in Indiana, so I'm inclined to disagree. Unless all the other governors really REALLY suck.
Posted by: Damn Skippy at June 25, 2010 11:16 AM (VDgKF)
I live here too.. I think he is awesome. Moving from California back to Indiana opened my eyes.
Posted by: Timbo at June 25, 2010 07:20 AM (ph9vn)
I think we have a concerned troll.
Good, the unconcerned trolls just aren't very good eating. To stringy. The concerned ones, especially with BBQ sauce.. mmmm...
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 25, 2010 07:21 AM (e8T35)
Speaker at the next Repub convention, absof*ckinglutly.
Posted by: Leigh T at June 25, 2010 07:29 AM (pYshP)
Posted by: Mindy at June 25, 2010 07:32 AM (7KIhk)
Speaker at the next Repub convention, absof*ckinglutly.
Posted by: Leigh T at June 25, 2010 11:29 AM (pYshP)
Agreed!! You can't have him yet. Let us get our fill of the big beautiful man first. Besides a secong term in NJ will only sharpen his skills for future battles in Capitol Hill. Lets think long term on this.
Posted by: dananjcon at June 25, 2010 07:40 AM (pr+up)
The sacrifice part was to be borne by Republicans and conservatives. The Left considers they've already been deprived by not being permanently in power.
Posted by: Decaf at June 25, 2010 10:54 AM (NooBZ)
Christie made that point well in the linked speech. "There is no such thing as something for nothing, but you have been promised that someone else will pay for something."
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at June 25, 2010 08:01 AM (mHQ7T)
Christie isn't talking about abortion or calling for a truce. He's doing his job. Maybe he can lend Daniels a spare set of balls.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at June 25, 2010 08:03 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: the peanut gallery at June 25, 2010 08:21 AM (NurK6)
I live in Indiana, so I'm inclined to disagree. Unless all the other governors really REALLY suck.
I really, really, really suck.
Me too.
P.S. to Connecticut-based businesses: I'm still taking bribes for Wisconsin state contracts.
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But they concede he's definitely the most robust
I saw what you did there.
Posted by: RushBabe at June 25, 2010 06:29 AM (W8m8i)