March 17, 2010
— Ace Because they have to wait a certain number of days after getting the CBO report.
So what's the hold up? I imagine they're changing the bill to cheat the score as we speak.
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Posted by: fishy comments at March 17, 2010 04:53 PM (IZzW/)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 17, 2010 04:53 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: AmishDude at March 17, 2010 04:54 PM (Vo2Ef)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 17, 2010 08:53 PM (UOM4
Cha-ching!
Posted by: Death Panels at March 17, 2010 04:55 PM (Vo2Ef)
Posted by: arhooley at March 17, 2010 04:59 PM (VSKB6)
Posted by: ParisParamus at March 17, 2010 04:59 PM (TFs5o)
Anyone else see that?
BTW, this weekend would be a really good time to surround the capitol. Y'know, not let the yea's in to vote on sunday...
must be the green beer and shamrocks making me think that could happen.
Posted by: AoSpader at March 17, 2010 04:59 PM (PI/0J)
Posted by: Dr. Spank at March 17, 2010 05:00 PM (I1/U/)
No. Just that even if they did have the votes and were ready to vote now, they'd still have to wait because the CBO is now delayed.
Posted by: arhooley at March 17, 2010 05:01 PM (VSKB6)
Posted by: ParisParamus at March 17, 2010 05:01 PM (TFs5o)
Some footage of Michelle Obama angrily confronting reporters has been released.
A nasty piece of work, that one.
Posted by: Gran at March 17, 2010 05:01 PM (kmmbv)
Anyone else see that?
Yeah, I read it here! I think some drunk moron posted it.
Posted by: arhooley at March 17, 2010 05:02 PM (VSKB6)
Posted by: AoSpader at March 17, 2010 05:02 PM (PI/0J)
They don't have the votes despite the fact they're not actually voting. Kind of like walking into a whorehouse with 3 bucks and a bad case of whiskey dick.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at March 17, 2010 05:05 PM (bRni3)
"More time to call your congressmen folks."
Probably, still time for handwritten letters too.
They do NOT have the votes. They won't Sun either.
Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1ST at March 17, 2010 05:05 PM (ucq49)
Unfortunately, it's just window dressing at this point. The commies are givin' out free stuff, and the 52%ers want it bad. Cost/pain is no object.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at March 17, 2010 05:08 PM (554T5)
7 Huffpo says the holdup is the AFL-CIO.
Don't those chumps get it? Unions of people who work for a living is so last century.
Posted by: SEIU at March 17, 2010 05:08 PM (Vo2Ef)
Posted by: Leftard Reasoning at March 17, 2010 05:08 PM (RykTt)
Exactly. If they did, it'd be law by now. Pelosi is busy fellating recalcitrant Dems. Let's hope her nobbing skills aren't so good.
Posted by: Ombudsman at March 17, 2010 05:09 PM (y4B2y)
Posted by: Barbarian at March 17, 2010 09:07 PM (EL+OC)
he put her on the map, she has to be loyal back, even Rush said he agrees with that fact
plus I know the base can't stand McCain and thinks of him as the devil (though he gave us Palin and Scott Brown), but her support of him doesn't bother me; her bad favorables do
Posted by: YRM at March 17, 2010 05:09 PM (rbtaB)
Posted by: ErikW at March 17, 2010 05:10 PM (ERwKO)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 17, 2010 08:53 PM (UOM4
Under Bammycare killing yourself will be the highest form of patriotism. Gotta make this thing deficit-neutral somehow, y'know.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at March 17, 2010 05:10 PM (DwlAL)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz
Herr, what have you been up to?
Posted by: mpfsIrishFish Stick at March 17, 2010 05:10 PM (QuP9W)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz
Herr, what have you been up to?
See above.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at March 17, 2010 05:11 PM (bRni3)
Posted by: Ombudsman at March 17, 2010 09:09 PM (y4B2y)
That's supposed to HELP?
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at March 17, 2010 05:12 PM (DwlAL)
Posted by: Rocks at March 17, 2010 05:13 PM (Y8smK)
Removing the dentures would cut down on the friction considerably.
Posted by: Gran at March 17, 2010 05:13 PM (kmmbv)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 17, 2010 05:14 PM (cdZd+)
Posted by: Armando at March 17, 2010 05:15 PM (3F5CG)
Posted by: Ron at March 17, 2010 05:15 PM (629AO)
Futures for tongue depressors and duct tape shot up unexpectedly today....
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at March 17, 2010 05:15 PM (bRni3)
Posted by: fluffy at March 17, 2010 05:15 PM (SwkdU)
See above.
I thought so. The whiskey dick comment gave it away.
Posted by: mpfsIrishFish Stick at March 17, 2010 05:15 PM (QuP9W)
Yes, and I think that's because it's going to get done. Not that I've doubted it since the House passed the original crap in November. I really believe every fucking Democrat in Washington is for these piece of shit. They love the idea of controlling and destroying this country from their little fucking perch. It sends a thrill up their leg.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 17, 2010 05:17 PM (5I0Yr)
Removing the dentures would cut down on the friction considerably.
Yeah, but she's not 3 feet tall, and she doesn't have a flat head to rest your beer on.
Posted by: Ombudsman at March 17, 2010 05:17 PM (y4B2y)
Posted by: mpfsIrishFish Stick at March 17, 2010 09:15 PM (QuP9W)
Eh, I just have em stand on their hands so I can drop it in.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at March 17, 2010 05:17 PM (bRni3)
She often has this stream-of-consciousness speaking style which is difficult to follow sometimes and easy to for the Usual Suspects to pick apart
People admire her and respect her because she's honest and Real, but we've become so influenced by presentation that it's hard to see past it
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at March 17, 2010 05:17 PM (JrRME)
Posted by: Ron at March 17, 2010 09:15 PM (629AO)
It does now. You follow me?
Posted by: Chicago "Businessman" at March 17, 2010 05:17 PM (5I0Yr)
Posted by: bergerbilder at March 17, 2010 05:18 PM (S1Ttj)
Posted by: KilltheHippies at March 17, 2010 05:18 PM (VKfXw)
Posted by: YRM at March 17, 2010 05:18 PM (rbtaB)
See other thread. I invited you to my birthday party in July. You will fit in perfectly. A true smart ass.
Posted by: mpfsIrishFish Stick at March 17, 2010 05:19 PM (QuP9W)
Posted by: Armando at March 17, 2010 09:15 PM (3F5CG)
whatever you can afford, man
but, buy silver instead of gold.
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at March 17, 2010 05:19 PM (JrRME)
Posted by: Darth Hoyer at March 17, 2010 05:20 PM (kmmbv)
See other thread. I invited you to my birthday party in July. You will fit in perfectly. A true smart ass.
Posted by: mpfsIrishFish Stick at March 17, 2010 09:19 PM (QuP9W)
Heh. I saw. Where does a deunken fish stick make its abode?
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at March 17, 2010 05:20 PM (bRni3)
Posted by: bill-tb at March 17, 2010 05:20 PM (y+QfZ)
Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 17, 2010 05:21 PM (dQdrY)
Unicorn crap in, Unicorn crap out.
A real assessment would have different scenarios and ranges and be from a private and inimpeachable firm, not some Dimocrat-laden government shithouse like the CBO.
Posted by: TexasJew at March 17, 2010 05:21 PM (hpWYW)
Depends. Let's see your voter registration card, Comrade.
Posted by: Your Next Doctor at March 17, 2010 05:21 PM (DwlAL)
No matter what the score is - ultimately the dems are going to lie about it.
It's only a trillion dollars a day! no worries we can just cut medicare! and tax rich people until they are nice and poor.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at March 17, 2010 05:22 PM (0fzsA)
See other thread. I invited you to my birthday party in July. You will fit in perfectly. A true smart ass.
Posted by: mpfsIrishFish Stick at March 17, 2010 09:19 PM (QuP9W)
Actually, I'd probably just puke on your mom or something. But that's cool if you're into it.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at March 17, 2010 05:22 PM (bRni3)
It's what governments do , it's who they are .
I'd call 'em whores but whores are usually more honest and provide a service that some people appreciate .
Posted by: awkward davies at March 17, 2010 05:23 PM (wb68R)
Didn't they name a neurological disease after that town?
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at March 17, 2010 05:23 PM (bRni3)
HOPE AND CHANGE?
Do I get the change.
CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN!
I hope so, I am tired
Posted by: The Chicken at March 17, 2010 05:24 PM (2+9Yx)
Actually, I'd probably just puke on your mom or something. But that's cool if you're into it.
Mom's side is Irish, they are used to it. We will just hose you off on the Slip n Slide.
Posted by: mpfsIrishFish Stick at March 17, 2010 05:24 PM (QuP9W)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at March 17, 2010 05:25 PM (bRni3)
I love smart asses. I'm a chronic smart ass, coming from a long line of smart asses. Had a parent-teacher conference where the teacher said, "your daughter is, well.....a smart alek." I was never more proud. She got two Happy Meals that night. (OK, I ate the second fries)
Posted by: Ombudsman at March 17, 2010 05:25 PM (y4B2y)
Posted by: oss at March 17, 2010 05:25 PM (1l2bp)
Didn't they name a neurological disease after that town?
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz
Hey, hey, hey now sport. It might be a backwater but it's my backwater.
Posted by: mpfsIrishFish Stick at March 17, 2010 05:26 PM (QuP9W)
Posted by: ErikW at March 17, 2010 05:27 PM (ERwKO)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at March 17, 2010 05:28 PM (bRni3)
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 17, 2010 05:29 PM (2g2ex)
C'mon. What kind of parenting is that? Demand a do-over. You're the man...
Posted by: Ombudsman at March 17, 2010 05:30 PM (y4B2y)
Damn people...how can you all be so insensitive?? There was an earthquake in Hawai'i that caused a health emergency..
..umm..I'm not sure when exactly...but dammit...have some respect
Posted by: beedubya at March 17, 2010 05:30 PM (AnTyA)
The Democrats are scrabbling to come up with new and better ways to tax the shit out of us.
Let's see. That's 'Deemed', with the Double Word Score...
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi layin' down the Tiles at March 17, 2010 05:32 PM (v3Jnr)
52 Nah, that's what the re-education camps will be for.
I just want the damn drama llama crap over. If they were going to ram it through all along, then they need to quit being pansies. I don't like getting butt raped on the best of days, but being butt hurt by a bunch of wusses is getting degrading. Enough already, if you're going to do it, then do it -- and then let the cards fall where they will. Choices have consequences.
Posted by: unknown jane at March 17, 2010 05:32 PM (5/yRG)
"Space Dogs from Hell" or some such shit won the coin toss over "Asian Lesbian Hobos IV"
Problem with them Asian Hobos is as soon as your done eating them, you're hungry again!
Posted by: garrett at March 17, 2010 05:33 PM (v3Jnr)
When I venture east I head to that ultra sophisticated metropolis Wilkes-Barre PA.
Posted by: mpfsIrishFish Stick at March 17, 2010 09:22 PM (QuP9W)
Wait 'til you see what we've done. The Intermodal Transportation Facility Bus Station is almost done. And have you seen the movie theater? FOURTEEN screens!
You'll be so proud - and your guests will be suitably impressed.
Posted by: Mayor Tom Leighton (Delusional Real Estate Party) at March 17, 2010 05:34 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Will at March 17, 2010 05:35 PM (bRxyQ)
Posted by: dagny at March 17, 2010 05:36 PM (pOVW6)
I think he wants to run for Senate
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at March 17, 2010 09:30 PM (JrRME)
That's rich if he does. He's not even going to be re-elected to his House seat.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at March 17, 2010 05:36 PM (DwlAL)
You'll be so proud - and your guests will be suitably impressed.
Okay who ARE you? That's inside baseball stuff.
Posted by: mpfs Irish Fish Stick at March 17, 2010 05:37 PM (QuP9W)
Posted by: dagny at March 17, 2010 09:36 PM (pOVW6)
Ah don' FEEL no ways tah'rd! AH'VE COME TO FAAARRRRR....
Posted by: Hillary Rodham Rodham at March 17, 2010 05:38 PM (DwlAL)
Posted by: Waterhouse at March 17, 2010 05:38 PM (3vcEn)
I don't spend a lot of time worrying about what the ... rules are. - President B. Obama
The history of liberty has largely been the history of the observance of procedural safeguards. - Justice F. Frankfurter
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 17, 2010 05:39 PM (2g2ex)
Yes or no
Posted by: dagny at March 17, 2010 09:38 PM (pOVW6)
He sounded like a no. said he wanted to read the bill first as no one has seen the damn thing
Posted by: robtr at March 17, 2010 05:39 PM (fwSHf)
Posted by: Josef K. at March 17, 2010 05:40 PM (7+pP9)
Are you talking about the Martz bus station downtown?
Do you live there in WB?
Posted by: mpfs Irish Fish Stick at March 17, 2010 05:41 PM (QuP9W)
So what happens if they miss King Barack's precious deadline? Even if this were Clinton, let alone Bush, the media would be all over him, portraying him as a chump and a loser.
Posted by: AmishDude at March 17, 2010 05:41 PM (Vo2Ef)
Posted by: dagny at March 17, 2010 05:42 PM (pOVW6)
Posted by: curious at March 17, 2010 05:44 PM (p302b)
Yes I do mean that wonder of 1950s-era soviet technology on South Washington Street. Personally, I live in bucolic Mountain Top. Where the elite meet. Small world, isn't it?
Posted by: Josef K. at March 17, 2010 05:44 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: chemjeff at March 17, 2010 05:44 PM (pTyL2)
Posted by: The Dollar Store at March 17, 2010 05:44 PM (MhRrR)
Posted by: Josef K. at March 17, 2010 09:40 PM (7+pP9)
Don't be so sure. We've been in withdrawal ever since the Big Dig ended.
Posted by: The Whole World at March 17, 2010 05:45 PM (DwlAL)
I don't spend a lot of time worrying about what the ... rules are. - President B. Obama
Yeah, this is especially rich coming from the CONSTITUTIONAL LAW PROFESSOR, Barry Obama.
Posted by: chemjeff at March 17, 2010 05:45 PM (pTyL2)
Every word out of a democrats mouth is a lie, including "and" and "the".
Stole that, but it's so good!!!!!
Posted by: Boots at March 17, 2010 05:46 PM (06JTY)
Have you used the fabulous Intergalactical Spaceport we call Avoca Airport. That parking lot is some prime real estate.
My dad grew up in Hazelton.
Posted by: mpfs Irish Fish Stick at March 17, 2010 05:46 PM (QuP9W)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 17, 2010 05:46 PM (yQWNf)
Posted by: chemjeff at March 17, 2010 09:44 PM (pTyL2)
If they can get the votes by playing chicken with the Slaughter Rule, they'd like that as the vets would mostly stand down. The Slaughter Rule would be a coup and all bets are off.
Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 17, 2010 05:48 PM (dQdrY)
The Democrats have Americans bent-over grabbing their ankles. The only thing Americans are waiting for is to find out how big a dick it's going to be.
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at March 17, 2010 05:48 PM (Vu6sl)
we can assume we will not see the bill and the media will report it is passed and signed and the blogesphere will be duly shocked.
Do they give the republicans the bill or whatever or only the dems. I would think they would have to give it to everybody. I guess they could just hand it out to the "yes" votes and call it a day or not hand it out at all and have an Irani/Venezuelan/Castro/Ussr vote.
Posted by: dagny at March 17, 2010 05:50 PM (pOVW6)
If they're anything like the normal beta male democrat it shouldn't be too bad. Much like cramming a toothpick into the Grand Canyon.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 17, 2010 05:51 PM (yQWNf)
Have you used the fabulous Intergalactical Spaceport we call Avoca Airport. That parking lot is some prime real estate.
My dad grew up in Hazelton.
Posted by: mpfs Irish Fish Stick at March 17, 2010 09:46 PM (QuP9W)
Oh yeah - that's a real treat. There's a grass airstrip in Mountain Top (in Glen Summit) that's a better place to fly from.
So you're a rare ginger hazlenut? Cool. And Happy Saint Patrick's Day. My family's Prussian and Welsh, but I'll drink to the Irish (and gingers) any day.
Posted by: Josef K. at March 17, 2010 05:52 PM (7+pP9)
New rules!!! New Rules!!!
We now have decided we only need 1/3 of the votes to pass this!
Damn, isn't this fun?
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at March 17, 2010 05:53 PM (EW49d)
Damn, isn't this fun?"
I was kinda enjoying the wait. Bending over and holding my ankles.
Posted by: Sully at March 17, 2010 05:56 PM (ucq49)
Posted by: unknown jane at March 17, 2010 05:56 PM (5/yRG)
Posted by: curious at March 17, 2010 05:56 PM (p302b)
Posted by: curious at March 17, 2010 05:59 PM (p302b)
Posted by: curious at March 17, 2010 06:00 PM (p302b)
Posted by: dagny at March 17, 2010 06:01 PM (pOVW6)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 17, 2010 06:03 PM (9IHmo)
Posted by: ParisParamus at March 17, 2010 06:04 PM (3BrXy)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 17, 2010 06:07 PM (9Lm5R)
Posted by: curious at March 17, 2010 06:10 PM (p302b)
Assuming this somehow passes the house, the next line of attack would obviously be to present a point of order as to each and every change proposed to the Senate on the reconcilliation rules. If the GOP wins just one challenge, and sustains its filibuster, the Senate will not be able to pass a bill that is identical in each and every respect to the House bill.
And, as to each point of order that gets sustained, the next step is to oppose each and every amendment to a man, and force the Democrats to provide the entire margin of victory. Surely one of the changes will be unpalatable to the hard lefties like Boxer, Sanders, Franken, Leahy, Kerry, et al. This would force Reid to lean on his own caucus for each and every vote. This would stretch out the reconcilliation process well into the summer.
Posted by: Sean P at March 17, 2010 06:11 PM (M3QBc)
His is Melissa Hart's old district. It's some residential areas around Pittsburgh and west. They hate liberals and love Democrats. They supported Swann for governor and he lost handily. Hence, Altmire does the usual Blue Dog two-step and the blue-hairs who can't figure out why their kids have to move out of state to get a job but still have union bumper stickers on their cars vote for him.
If he votes yes, he's toast. Problem: He may be toast anyway. A Democrat from that kind of district is exactly who will be swept out this fall, regardless. If that's the case, he may be looking to be the guy who kills Obamacare. And, yes, he has to think about redistricting for 2012. There is no logical reason why he should even be thinking of voting for this. Pelosi must have his balls in a vice.
Posted by: AmishDude at March 17, 2010 06:12 PM (Vo2Ef)
Posted by: curious at March 17, 2010 06:13 PM (p302b)
I think it has a lot to do with the timing: people will be focused on spring break/Easter vacation; they won't be paying as much attention to Washington.
Either that, or these folks really are Satan's goofy, incompetent sidekicks and think this is a real hoot.
Posted by: unknown jane at March 17, 2010 06:14 PM (5/yRG)
Batchelor is saying "we're thinking they are doing this bill the way China does its budgets..."
that's funny
Posted by: curious at March 17, 2010 06:15 PM (p302b)
Posted by: curious at March 17, 2010 06:17 PM (p302b)
The Hope Soap Opera
Posted by: arhooley at March 17, 2010 06:18 PM (VSKB6)
Posted by: unknown jane at March 17, 2010 06:22 PM (5/yRG)
Posted by: unknown jane at March 17, 2010 10:22 PM (5/yRG)"
Ryan 17th Ohio flipped according to Batchelor. Apparently, the guest says "it's all about nancy and what she wants"....the guest said "Ryan's district went very heavily for McCain and Ryan has issues, real issues."
Posted by: curious at March 17, 2010 06:26 PM (p302b)
I thought the trip was always on, just delayed and narrowed down (no family).
Posted by: arhooley at March 17, 2010 06:27 PM (VSKB6)
Posted by: arhooley at March 17, 2010 06:28 PM (VSKB6)
Posted by: curious at March 17, 2010 10:10 PM (p302b)
They want to be the holiday. They are the ones worthy of worship. They also like to insult people who believe in anything but them. Except muslims.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 17, 2010 06:28 PM (5I0Yr)
Posted by: curious at March 17, 2010 06:29 PM (p302b)
Is that a new No for the whip count?
Posted by: arhooley at March 17, 2010 10:28 PM (VSKB6)"
I'm just reporting what she just said on Batchelor's show and wow does she sound dejected. She almost doesn't want to believe it. I'm getting the impression that, based on what she said, if this guy votes yes, since the district went "very heavily for McCain" that the guy is essentially firing himself cause he won't win in the next election.
Posted by: curious at March 17, 2010 06:31 PM (p302b)
Posted by: curious at March 17, 2010 06:32 PM (p302b)
Oh hell, you mean we have a new Maybe-to-Yes for the whip count?
Posted by: arhooley at March 17, 2010 06:32 PM (VSKB6)
Being butt raped by wussies goes like this, "Look, ma no hands!" You're both drunk. He misses a stroke, and it almost goes there. If you really don't like it, as in you're a center-right country, you say something. You can fill in the rest, otherwise. That's what they're trying right now. Me? I'm optimistic this can be comedy gold in November.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 17, 2010 06:32 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: AmishDude at March 17, 2010 09:41 PM (Vo2Ef)
Yeah, he's a big fucking pussy, but I feel like I live in another dimension having figured that out three years ago.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 17, 2010 06:34 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: curious at March 17, 2010 06:38 PM (p302b)
Actually we already have the CBO score and it's pretty bad. So I had harry pull another con and count the same savings 3 times instead of twice. I sent it back to the CBO and we are waiting for the score. We will keep pulling Bernie Madoof account style con games and sendoing it back to the CBO until we get numbers that make us look good
It is not a hard job to cook the books infront of everyone's face and not even try to hide that is what we are doing
Posted by: Barry O. at March 17, 2010 06:44 PM (0cUgO)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 17, 2010 06:53 PM (eNxMU)
Posted by: unknown jane at March 17, 2010 06:59 PM (5/yRG)
Posted by: curious at March 17, 2010 07:08 PM (p302b)
Posted by: curious at March 17, 2010 07:12 PM (p302b)
Posted by: sandbagger at March 17, 2010 07:27 PM (bqaIj)
152 This is getting to the conservative democrats too. I mean they are actually tivoing Glenn Beck...and watching after they pull the shades pulled down and the lights down low....they are having agita big time....so all is not well in mudville.
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getting? oh, they got it a long time ago. registered voter for 26 years that voted Dem for first 25 of those years. Everyone i know is a Dem (being a blue state) and not one of them voted Democrat in 2008. However, I am the only one that officially changed to "unaffiliated". None of them plan to vote Dem next election or the one after that either. There were as shit load of us that bvoted McCain/Palin and we never went back. A shitload more have joined those ranks.
Posted by: ex Dem at March 17, 2010 07:52 PM (0cUgO)
Lousy rat-bastards.
Posted by: sf at March 18, 2010 09:25 AM (KRNb3)
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I imagine they're changing the bill to cheat the score as we speak.
The Devil you say! Democrats......cheat?
Posted by: wiserbud at March 17, 2010 04:52 PM (EW49d)