March 19, 2010

No To Yes...Boccieri Of Ohio A Yes
— DrewM

He never quite says yes but it's pretty clear from the context of his speech. He says he's a yes.

Gabe had him in the Maybe and Susceptible to Pressure category.

Indeed.

He's giving a fairly emotional speech using a bunch of constituents who are standing around him as the reason he is voting yes. And now they are going to tell his story.

Fox says they had him on yesterday and he was worried about cost. I guess the CBO-House Dem leadership two-step on the budget was good enough for him.

Posted by: DrewM at 06:59 AM | Comments (233)
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1 I have a bad feeling about this

Posted by: Joffen at March 19, 2010 07:00 AM (5wXYB)

2 No surprise.  His constituents are BS.  He is in a R+4 district.

Posted by: phoenixrisen at March 19, 2010 07:00 AM (74DQm)

3 He's giving a fairly emotional speech using a bunch of constituents who are standing around him as the reason he is voting yes.

Do you think he bothered to tell any of 'em they're not going to get their "free" drugs for four years?

Posted by: Typical Obama Voter at March 19, 2010 07:00 AM (mR7mk)

4 Not with a bang, but with a...simper.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 19, 2010 07:01 AM (l1KFP)

5 These Democrat jackass legislators are nothing but a gaggle of weak willed, narcissistic opportunists. Where do we dig up this garbage?

Posted by: rplat at March 19, 2010 07:01 AM (G1ArL)

6 Well this is depressing.  See you all in the camps!

Posted by: EC at March 19, 2010 07:02 AM (mAhn3)

7

Notice the 'Ohio guy with no isurance sob speech' was wearing a purple sweater?

What do you want to bet.. he is a member of SEIU.

Posted by: Timbo at March 19, 2010 07:02 AM (7GgDy)

8 So what. Keep dialing.

Posted by: arhooley at March 19, 2010 07:03 AM (LGC1a)

9 Buy the ticket, take the ride mofo.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 19, 2010 07:04 AM (w5ptJ)

10 Keep up the pressure people.  This isn't over.

Posted by: jewells at March 19, 2010 07:05 AM (l/N7H)

11 So where does this put Gabe's totals now as to how many left have to flip to YES, I'LL FUCK MY COUNTRY OVER before it's belly up for the USA?

Posted by: Twinks at March 19, 2010 07:05 AM (wRPBa)

12 Fuck the fucking fucker.

Posted by: Filly at March 19, 2010 07:06 AM (onwJ3)

13

He's giving a fairly emotional speech

Boo fucking hoo, it's so hard to sell out our country for whatever baubles he'll get.

Posted by: Antimatter at March 19, 2010 07:07 AM (gbCNS)

14 Keep dialing?

Posted by: Charles Gibson at March 19, 2010 07:07 AM (Vu6sl)

15 Maybe the numbers on Fox are correct and that sucks.

Posted by: curious at March 19, 2010 07:07 AM (p302b)

16 Not good. They must be passing out bribes like condoms at an orgy.

Posted by: joncelli at March 19, 2010 07:09 AM (RD7QR)

17 I'm really sick of these commie motherfuckers hiding behind sick people they have no intention of helping in the first place. This is about control not health care.

Posted by: Mal at March 19, 2010 07:09 AM (Z+qzA)

18 Folks if this gets passed, don't get upset or angry. Get even. See you in November.

Posted by: Phil at March 19, 2010 07:10 AM (uI4yi)

19 Sigh.

Posted by: Y-not at March 19, 2010 07:11 AM (Kn9r7)

20 This makes me physically ill.  On one hand I just want to move out of the US but then I think why the hell should I move?  I haven't done a damn thing to destroy this nation!  I served, my husband served, all the males in my family served this country with honor and blood.  It just pisses me off like no other that I have to sit and watch this shit!

Posted by: kawfytawk at March 19, 2010 07:11 AM (NPvz/)

21 I've been avoiding applying for government jobs all my life, but now it might be time to reconsider.

Posted by: mr.frakypants at March 19, 2010 07:11 AM (zOP98)

22 What if some of these provisions cannot be passed through the senate? Even some of the dem senators are saying that some of the senate is not on board with some of these house pay offs.

Posted by: dagny at March 19, 2010 07:11 AM (clgMu)

Posted by: lorien1973 at March 19, 2010 07:12 AM (IhQuA)

24 Things are getting a bit tense.

Posted by: citizen khan at March 19, 2010 07:12 AM (7uyQV)

25 so wait, this guy's sob story was about his mom(?) that had breast cancer, and she would be dead if it hadn't been for quality health care, so that's why I must vote to take away your quality health care.

WTF

Posted by: Unclefacts, Purveyor of Fine Meteors at March 19, 2010 07:12 AM (erIg9)

26

wouldn't it be great if the bill fails passage by ONE vote

good times, good times

Posted by: kallisto at March 19, 2010 07:12 AM (+FkcS)

27 Of course he's crying.  Broken knees hurt.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 19, 2010 07:13 AM (Vo2Ef)

28 A fairly emotional speech. That's unfiltered bullshit. Emotion substituted for thought and logic. That's a proper Democrat for you, and the road to Hell is paved with their stupidity and emotional good intentions. Fuck that idiot, and may he die a painful, slow death.

Posted by: maddogg at March 19, 2010 07:13 AM (OlN4e)

29

They have also snuck in a 3% immediate capital gains tax to help fund this? Did you know that?

Posted by: dagny at March 19, 2010 07:14 AM (clgMu)

30 It is a mistake to only go after those who are allegedly undecided.  They are not undecided.  They are using their flips to yes to demoralize their opponents.  Everyone has to pick up the phone and call their representative and let them know how you feel.  I called mine and I think it was the first time they heard that anyone wanted him to vote no.

Posted by: curious at March 19, 2010 07:15 AM (p302b)

31 These fuckers are gonna get swept in November. And they know it. The problem is, they don't care. Fuck 'em.

Posted by: Vile Roman at March 19, 2010 07:15 AM (iBzKc)

32 Vote em all out of office

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 19, 2010 07:16 AM (0GFWk)

33 These fuckers are gonna get swept in November. And they know it. The problem is, they don't care. Fuck 'em. Posted by: Vile Roman at March 19, 2010 11:15 AM (iBzKc But why? They can't all have Gov. Jobs lined up???

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 19, 2010 07:17 AM (0GFWk)

34 This guy just received $16,625 million in the form of an airport grant Monday. Surprised he flipped?

Posted by: Semper Gumby at March 19, 2010 07:17 AM (UNW+D)

35

I'm ready to call the Democratic party what it is, the Communist Party. I'm ready to declare them banned and eliminated from the political process.

Posted by: maddogg at March 19, 2010 07:18 AM (OlN4e)

36 They have also snuck in a 3% immediate capital gains tax to help fund this? Did you know that? Dammit! They should be CUTTING the cap gains tax! We already have the highest cap gains tax in the industrial world! This gets shittier by the moment.

Posted by: joncelli at March 19, 2010 07:18 AM (RD7QR)

37 I'm pretty convinced that if this passes, there will be violence.  The only question is the nature and degree.

Posted by: grognard at March 19, 2010 07:18 AM (v0kvW)

38 They have also snuck in a 3% immediate capital gains tax to help fund this? Did you know that?

Rush said that the word tax appears 124 times in the first 159 pages of the bill and that still leaves over 2500 pages.

Posted by: Mal at March 19, 2010 07:18 AM (Z+qzA)

39 Shove some corpse's dentures up his ass.

Posted by: TexasJew at March 19, 2010 07:18 AM (wMXOq)

40 @ 36 But why? They can't all have Gov. Jobs lined up???

Ideology trumps pragmatism.

Posted by: Vile Roman at March 19, 2010 07:19 AM (iBzKc)

41

I'm watching Boccieri on TV, he just talked about how 0bama kiseed him on the cheek - the left cheek!

He just dropped his pants to show us the smooch mark.

Posted by: kallisto at March 19, 2010 07:19 AM (+FkcS)

42 My biggest fears all along have been that they won't have to use the deem and pass. It's not over yet but.......

Posted by: Semper Gumby at March 19, 2010 07:19 AM (UNW+D)

43 If I hear one more fucking sob story I'm going to punch someone in the face.  They should all choke on a bag of dicks.

Posted by: mpfs at March 19, 2010 07:19 AM (iYbLN)

44 Get even? Even if the Pubs manage to repeal this, will they refund the tax money that will have been stolen from us in the meantime?

Posted by: Zombie Dr. Kevorkian at March 19, 2010 07:20 AM (YmPwQ)

45 It is a mistake to only go after those who are allegedly undecided.  They are not undecided.  They are using their flips to yes to demoralize their opponents.  Everyone has to pick up the phone and call their representative and let them know how you feel.  I called mine and I think it was the first time they heard that anyone wanted him to vote no.

Posted by: curious at March 19, 2010 11:15 AM (p302b)

Agreed.

But I think that last part is bullshit.  Not on your part, but there's absolutely no way it was the first.

Posted by: Editor at March 19, 2010 07:20 AM (pUfK9)

46
The cost manipulation by the democrats is disgusting.  It's a ponzi scheme that would make Madoff blush.

No matter- people are dying!


Posted by: Lemon Kitten at March 19, 2010 07:20 AM (0fzsA)

47

This reminds me of the time Hulk Hogan came back to beat the Iron Sheik for the title.

It's about as genuine, too.

Posted by: FireHorse at March 19, 2010 07:20 AM (cQyWA)

48 Let's see, SEIU (the commies), La Raza (immigrants) & the Tea Party are all going to be in DC this weekend.

Hmmm, If I was the mayor of DC I would be calling out the National Guard.

Posted by: Mike H at March 19, 2010 07:20 AM (o48kc)

49 on WABC radio, Scarborough is replaying an interview with a teacher's union shill that was on his television program this morning.  It's fun to watch Joe eat someone for breakfast.  The guy is full of crap.

Posted by: curious at March 19, 2010 07:20 AM (p302b)

50 Another scary part. What is being said to these guys?  Why do they not fear the loss of their jobs...what other changes are being stuck in this bill?  Is democracy really over?

Posted by: non_dhimmie at March 19, 2010 07:21 AM (zACGu)

51
Once again- it goes to show that democrats campaign as moderates - and go to Washington and vote lock-step with the left.


Posted by: Lemon Kitten at March 19, 2010 07:21 AM (0fzsA)

52 OMGOMG, did you hear piglosi just almost say 62 million???? Then switch it to 32. I bet there is a backdoor for all those illegals!

Posted by: Mrs. Compton at March 19, 2010 07:21 AM (NaJ/S)

53 This will pass.  This will pass and we'll be lucky to live through it.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at March 19, 2010 07:21 AM (5aa4z)

54 51 Let's see, SEIU (the commies), La Raza (immigrants) & the Tea Party are all going to be in DC this weekend.

Hmmm, If I was the mayor of DC I would be calling out the National Guard.

Posted by: Mike H at March 19, 2010 11:20 AM (o48kc)

If I was a Tea Partier, I'd have a plan, if not a weapon, just in case.  If they are anywhere geographically close to each other, there is going to be havoc.

Posted by: grognard at March 19, 2010 07:22 AM (v0kvW)

55 BTW, fuck Nazi Pelosi, she's a lying hideous bag of botox

Posted by: Unclefacts, Purveyor of Fine Meteors at March 19, 2010 07:22 AM (erIg9)

56 #56
I second that comment.

Posted by: mpfs at March 19, 2010 07:22 AM (iYbLN)

57 But why? They can't all have Gov. Jobs lined up???

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 19, 2010 11:17 AM (0GFWk)

Because they believe in the cause, man.  Their heathen, God-hating ways trump everything.  Even their own greed, of which most of this is stemmed from.

The root of all evil is money.  Money is not evil, but where there is evil so money is.

Posted by: Editor at March 19, 2010 07:22 AM (pUfK9)

58 These fuking run of the mill Fm listening ignorant liberal asswipe constituents think they are getting free health care. When they start getting taxed out the yingyang for it, they may change their minds feelings.

Posted by: dagny at March 19, 2010 07:22 AM (clgMu)

59

@55.....  amnesty is next.. once they are 'citizens'  we pay for thier healthcare and the healthcare of thier families.

 

 

Posted by: Timbo at March 19, 2010 07:23 AM (7GgDy)

60

"But I think that last part is bullshit.  Not on your part, but there's absolutely no way it was the first.

Posted by: Editor at March 19, 2010 11:20 AM (pUfK9)"

I described the phone call in the other thread.  She looked us up while on the phone and when I said we want him to vote no and all the reasons why the girl who worked for the rep made an audible gasp.  My friend heard it cause I had her on speaker phone.  We both laughed after the call. 

Posted by: curious at March 19, 2010 07:23 AM (p302b)

61 I hate them all with the intensity of a thousand hells. 

Posted by: PAgirlinNC at March 19, 2010 07:23 AM (GNydv)

62 I"m glad I scheduled my brain MRI for Saturday afternoon because after the Sunday vote I will probably be shit out of luck.

Posted by: mpfs at March 19, 2010 07:24 AM (iYbLN)

63 57 I remember seeing the smoke from the fires in DC 1968 when I was 5 years old.

Posted by: dagny at March 19, 2010 07:24 AM (clgMu)

64 I have a bad feeling about this.

Posted by: Captain Optimism at March 19, 2010 07:24 AM (5I0Yr)

65 Dagny, Larry Kudlow is outlining all the new taxes associated with this legislation.  Among them an immediate 3% increase in the capital gains tax and a raise in the medicare tax.

Posted by: curious at March 19, 2010 07:24 AM (p302b)

66 @26 -

Oh. Boy.

If he's willing to say *that* publically, how many are out there seething, thinking, planning things in secrecy that are far worse?

God help our country.

Posted by: grognard at March 19, 2010 07:24 AM (v0kvW)

67 Let's see, SEIU (the commies), La Raza (immigrants) & the Tea Party are all going to be in DC this weekend.

Hmmm, If I was the mayor of DC I would be calling out the National Guard.

Posted by: Mike H at March 19, 2010 11:20 AM (o48kc)

Hello.  It's part of the plan.  None of this is by accident.  They are hoping for a violent confrontation. 

Posted by: Editor at March 19, 2010 07:24 AM (pUfK9)

68 I must focus on David and Goliath. It can happen.

Posted by: Antimatter at March 19, 2010 07:25 AM (gbCNS)

69 this guy's sob story was about his mom(?) that had breast cancer, and she would be dead if it hadn't been for quality health care, so that's why I must vote to take away your quality health care.

Makes perfect sense.  "I got mine, now fuck you."  That's the way they all think.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 19, 2010 07:25 AM (mR7mk)

70

He just dropped his pants to show us the smooch mark.

Was it purple?

Posted by: dagny at March 19, 2010 07:26 AM (clgMu)

71

I must focus on David and Goliath. It can happen.

Good analogy. Remember, though, that the Democrats wrote the script and have cast themselves as David.

Posted by: FireHorse at March 19, 2010 07:27 AM (cQyWA)

Posted by: Hobo at March 19, 2010 07:27 AM (V8B//)

73 What I just heard him say was, "...If I can save just one life using YOUR money..."

Posted by: Michael_me at March 19, 2010 07:27 AM (vl19u)

74 this guy's sob story was about his mom(?) that had breast cancer, and she would be dead if it hadn't been for quality health care, so that's why I must vote to take away your quality health care.

My dad had quality health care and still died. Sometimes bad shit happens so just STFU.

Posted by: mpfs at March 19, 2010 07:28 AM (iYbLN)

75 Another scary part. What is being said to these guys?  Why do they not fear the loss of their jobs...what other changes are being stuck in this bill?  Is democracy really over?

They don't care. They all want this. It's all theater. It's all positioning. It's all to demonstrate that the Democrats are interested in true "robust debate" and that some are "moderates". I know it's "eeyore" but I don't trust these assholes since the Cap and Screw vote and the first two HealthScam votes. Those were all "close" and "heavily debated", too.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 19, 2010 07:28 AM (5I0Yr)

76 Obama on now....

*pull string*  The time for talking is--*BLAM*

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 19, 2010 07:28 AM (mR7mk)

77 Once again, I'd like to take a moment to thank the brain dead, slack jawed, willfully ignorant assholes that made this all possible.

Thanks FiftyTwo Percenters, you fucking fucks.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Purveyor of Fine Meteors at March 19, 2010 07:28 AM (erIg9)

78 The thing about all these sob stories is that if this passes all the future sob stories will be directed at the new Democrat health care overlords. And with the baby boomers reaching old age it's just going to increase.

Posted by: Mal at March 19, 2010 07:28 AM (Z+qzA)

79
Good thing it's FiAF, cuz I'm tuning this out for the day.

Posted by: Dang Straights at March 19, 2010 07:28 AM (fx8sm)

80 It's losing Stupak that's really going to hurt.

Posted by: Christoph at March 19, 2010 07:28 AM (0fq7b)

81

For a variety of reasons, this tally doesnÂ’t remotely reflect the billÂ’s real ten-year costs.  First, .  As most people are well aware, 2010 has now been underway for some timit includes 2010 as the initial yeare.  Therefore, the CBO would normally count 2011 as the first year of its analysis, just as it counted 2010 as the first year when analyzing the initial House health bill in the middle of 2009.  But under strict instructions from Democratic leaders, and over strong objections from Republicans, the CBO dutifully scored 2010 as the first year of the latest version of Obamacare.  If the clock were started in 2011, the first full year that the bill could possibly be in effect, the CBO says that the billÂ’s ten-year costs would be $1.2 trillion.

of course we all realized it was bologna but i hadn't realized 2010 start date

also this;

 The CBO projects that over the next four years, less than two percent of the billÂ’s alleged “ten year” costs would hit:  just $17 billion of the $940 billion in costs that the Democrats are claiming.  In fact, the costs through President ObamaÂ’s entire presidency, should he be reelected, would be $336 billion.  What would the president leave behind for his successor?  According to the CBO, he would leave behind costs of $837 billion during his successorÂ’s first term alone.  If his successor were to serve a second term, he or she would inherit a cool $2.0 trillion in Obamacare costs — about six times its costs during ObamaÂ’s own tenure.  This legislation is a ticking time-bomb.

 @ weekly standard

Posted by: willow at March 19, 2010 07:29 AM (7FgWm)

82 Obama just called all his adoring students fans.. "real patriots"

Posted by: Hobo at March 19, 2010 07:29 AM (V8B//)

83

The house can pass it but the senate can still fuk it up for them.

Posted by: dagny at March 19, 2010 07:29 AM (clgMu)

84 "So where does this put Gabe's totals now as to how many left have to flip to YES, I'LL FUCK MY COUNTRY OVER before it's belly up for the USA?"
And then commit political suicide.  These cocksukers would vote to kill every new born male child this next Sunday, if Ovomit said it was necessary for the good of our country.  Frankly, in really frightening.  We the people, need to rid ourselves of the vile puke that is in control of our federal govenment.

Posted by: Sparky at March 19, 2010 07:29 AM (r0u40)

85 33 These fuckers are gonna get swept in November. And they know it. The problem is, they don't care. Fuck 'em.

Posted by: Vile Roman at March 19, 2010 11:15 AM (iBzKc)

Exactly.  That's what makes them so dangerous not only with this health care vote, but with anything else they work on through January 2011.  I am extremely concerned about them using the same BS approach with cap and trade and amnesty that they used with this health care legislation.

Posted by: Slappy at March 19, 2010 07:29 AM (ljvjO)

86 grognard, I'm with you. He may be a bit of a firebrand, but he is EXTREMELY careful and as his postscript notes, this may be a rubicon moment.

Posted by: citizen khan at March 19, 2010 07:30 AM (7uyQV)

87
Oh and let's stop calling this 'healthcare' or Deathcare or Obamacare, and call it what it really is-  WELLFARE.

Posted by: Dang Straights at March 19, 2010 07:30 AM (fx8sm)

88 The thing about all these sob stories is that if this passes all the future sob stories will be directed at the new Democrat health care overlords.

I don't know.  I think most people will continue to blame "evil corporations" as they've been taught.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 19, 2010 07:30 AM (mR7mk)

89 The house can pass it but the senate can still fuk it up for them.

Doesn't that part come after Barry has already had his televised signing ceremony on a stage in front of adoring brain-dead acolytes?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 19, 2010 07:32 AM (mR7mk)

90 37 This guy just received $16,625 million in the form of an airport grant Monday. Surprised he flipped?

Posted by: Semper Gumby at March 19, 2010 11:17 AM (UNW+D)

Isn't that terrific?  They're using the money we paid in taxes to bribe congressmen outside our districts to vote against our interests.  It disgusts me to no end.

Posted by: Slappy at March 19, 2010 07:32 AM (ljvjO)

91 Obama is doing his campaign speech.. promises "Historic" weekend...
Crowd chants "yes we can" "yes we can"

Posted by: Mjim at March 19, 2010 07:32 AM (V8B//)

92 They really are playing with fire here.  They either have no idea of the depth of feeling on the general populace with this one, or they don't care.  I'm thinking the latter.  If they Slaughter it through, I do not doubt an uprising.

Posted by: Filly at March 19, 2010 07:32 AM (onwJ3)

93 Hey Morons, who are the alleged 6 reps to target?

Posted by: CALL AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN at March 19, 2010 07:33 AM (PI/0J)

94 30 A fairly emotional speech. That's unfiltered bullshit. Emotion substituted for thought and logic. That's a proper Democrat for you, and the road to Hell is paved with their stupidity and emotional good intentions. Fuck that idiot, and may he die a painful, slow death.

Posted by: maddogg at March 19, 2010 11:13 AM (OlN4e)

I couldn't agree more.  Did you ever notice that the Democrats never include in their "emotional good intentions" any reference to the overall financial difficulties that their feel-good, big-spending policies will have on the same people they claim they want to help?  If they were honest, they would tell these people they are supposedly "helping" that for sub-par health care managed by government bureaucrats, you get higher tax rates, higher interest rates, diminished U.S. dollar, sluggish economic growth, higher unemployment, etc.  But, of course, they know these same rubes that support this health care legislation won't be able to make the connection between the legislation and these other economic problems.

I have to tell you that it's moments like this that I loathe what our country has become thanks to the douchebags in Washington, D.C., especially the Democrats.

Posted by: Slappy at March 19, 2010 07:34 AM (ljvjO)

95 My dad had quality health care and still died. Sometimes bad shit happens so just STFU.

Posted by: mpfs at March 19, 2010 11:28 AM (iYbLN)

If he was like my father, he died five years after he should have due to quality health care.  I'd really like to see my son hit 35, ya know?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at March 19, 2010 07:34 AM (5aa4z)

96 Obama, "this bill is about being able to chase you dreams"

Posted by: Mjim at March 19, 2010 07:34 AM (V8B//)

97 Stop blaming the 52%. They are idiots. Blame the conservatives that stayed home for the sake of purity

Posted by: dagny at March 19, 2010 07:35 AM (clgMu)

98 Start breaking their fucking windows...

Posted by: after calling doesn't work at March 19, 2010 07:36 AM (Vu6sl)

99 The house can pass it but the senate can still fuk it up for them.

All the Senate can fuk up is the reconciliation package, which we all know is a fantasy. The Senate bill is it.

I think it's going to be a one-vote loss for the bill.

Posted by: arhooley at March 19, 2010 07:36 AM (LGC1a)

100 74

I must focus on David and Goliath. It can happen.

Good analogy. Remember, though, that the Democrats wrote the script and have cast themselves as David.

Which brings me to the thought of how demeaning it would be to have the libtards; the crying emos; the limp wrists; the girly boys; the tiny little rats bring down the greatness of America.

Posted by: Antimatter at March 19, 2010 07:36 AM (gbCNS)

101 It is fascinating that Scarborough has moved on to fighting the education "reforms'.  Guess he must think health care is a done deal.

Posted by: curious at March 19, 2010 07:37 AM (p302b)

102 Hey Morons, who are the alleged 6 reps to target?

I'd keep on calling James Oberstar and Betsy Markey.  I know they've both said they are "yes" votes, but I think they can be flipped to No.  The shell games in the CBO score are incredible, but they are also prolife votes that are trusting the prochoice Senate and White House to correct the Senate language.

Posted by: wtfci at March 19, 2010 07:37 AM (+zo63)

103 All we are talking about is common sense reform.

If you like your doctor, keep your doctor. If you like your plan, keep your plan. Its time for the american people to have more control over their health.

Lets be clear...

The proposal they will vote on in couple of days will end the worse practices of insurance companies. This is a patients bill of rights on steroids.

Posted by: Obama at March 19, 2010 07:38 AM (V8B//)

104 People, their chief reason for starting the taxes now but making the actual changes later is so that people will only gradually realize what's happening to them. There won't be an uprising or riots; the people who aren't paying attention -- and that's most people -- will simply notice one day in the future that it's more difficult and more expensive to get less care, and wonder why. Socialism usually occurs this way: quietly, in the background, with few people noticing until it's too late.

Posted by: joncelli at March 19, 2010 07:39 AM (RD7QR)

105 My dad had quality health care and still died. Sometimes bad shit happens so just STFU.

Posted by: mpfs at March 19, 2010 11:28 AM (iYbLN)


let me know when the public plan defeats death, I'll need to fire an apology note to Keefums telling him he won.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Purveyor of Fine Meteors at March 19, 2010 07:39 AM (erIg9)

106 Obama, "this bill is about being able to chase you dreams"

At the expense of other peoples' very lives.  Yeah, that seems "fair."

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 19, 2010 07:39 AM (mR7mk)

107 My dad had quality health care and still died. Sometimes bad shit happens so just STFU.


After he retired, my grandfather had surgery after he nearly lost his eye, then treatment for colitis, then a quadruple bypass, then some kind of back surgery, then more heart surgery and back surgery again, then he finally kicked the bucket on bone cancer.

He got twenty extra years on quality healthcare and his grandkids got all that time with him.

Posted by: arhooley at March 19, 2010 07:39 AM (LGC1a)

108 If you like your plan, keep your plan.

There are only three approved plans that won't get you the IRS fine/lien. 

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 19, 2010 07:41 AM (mR7mk)

109 Guess he must think health care is a done deal.

He said that everyone needs to calm down that everything will be fine on MSDNC this morning. He's a sellout piece of shit most of time.

Posted by: Mal at March 19, 2010 07:41 AM (Z+qzA)

110 Cornered animals bite.

We're being corralled into an angular place.

Sharpen your fangs.

Posted by: oh, Hi Mark at March 19, 2010 07:41 AM (WuVvx)

111 Aggregatin' and organizin' cocksuckers

Posted by: Albert Swearingen at March 19, 2010 07:41 AM (Mmw0q)

112  The only question left is are we going to let the special interests win again?

Posted by: Obama at March 19, 2010 07:42 AM (V8B//)

113 My dad had quality health care and still died. Sometimes bad shit happens so just STFU.

Posted by: mpfs at March 19, 2010 11:28 AM (iYbLN)

If he was like my father, he died five years after he should have due to quality health care.  I'd really like to see my son hit 35, ya know?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz

Dad had a particularly nasty form of leukemia.  They did what they could and I was grateful for it.
This "healthcare" bill would have probably just left him in the hallway to die.  Motherfuckers all of them.

Posted by: mpfs at March 19, 2010 07:42 AM (iYbLN)

114 @88 Indeed. Don't believe the talk that the 111th Congress will stop once this death sentence passes and Barry claws his X upon it. They will push forward with immigration as well as crap-n-tax. Nothing to lose. If they have to break up those things into smaller bits to cram it through both houses, so be it. The majority Demotard Congress will not waste this opportunity. They have the power, and "the call of history" can sway not only RINOs but certainly Dems.

Posted by: George Orwell at March 19, 2010 07:42 AM (AZGON)

115 Hammer Allen Boyd's office- use one  of these 32401, 32402, 32403, 32404, 32405, 32406, 32407, 32408, 32409, 32411, 32412, 32413, 32417, 32461  zip codes when they ask--
Allen Boyd (FL-2)

1227 Longworth HOB
Washington, DC 20515
(202) 225-5235
(202) 225-5615 Fax
(email form)

Posted by: CALL AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN at March 19, 2010 07:43 AM (PI/0J)

116 We are making sure this thing is paid for...

3rd this legislation brings down the cost of healthcare.

Posted by: Obama at March 19, 2010 07:44 AM (V8B//)

117 promises "Historic" weekend...

The stock market is going down already.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 19, 2010 07:44 AM (w5ptJ)

118 My bill will allow your employer to save money and give you a raise!

Posted by: Obama at March 19, 2010 07:44 AM (V8B//)

119

Hey dipshits: The "benefits" of this bill don't even kick in for three years!

Many of you shitheads will be dead by then.

Posted by: logprof at March 19, 2010 07:44 AM (Mmw0q)

120 I gave up talking to my coworker (referenced in today's headlines thread). She does her research, but she's coming from such a different perspective that it's impossible to argue with her. In her mind, everything that's coming down the pike is a good thing. Everything.

Posted by: Joanna at March 19, 2010 07:45 AM (7+WuG)

121 I can't wait for the doublespeak and covering for The One that will go on in the media when healthcare prices skyrocket.

We've always been at war with Oceania

Posted by: Gaff at March 19, 2010 07:45 AM (jDWYv)

122 Mjim, holy f-ing shit....I literally have no words to describe my deep, deep hatred for Obama.  What stupid fuck could sit there and listen to this fuck face spouting shit like the bill being about "chasing your dreams" and they believe it!?!?  OMFG.  I'm beyond stunned, yet not.  How fucking sickening. 

Yeah, I apologize for the profanity laced comments the last few days.  I'm so fucking mad, I can't see straight. 

Posted by: Twinks at March 19, 2010 07:45 AM (wRPBa)

123

108

Mark Steyn made a similar point on the radio last week. He said if this bill passes, then the future discussion will be about how to remedy its consequences.

IOW, in England and Canada, weekly articles in the newspapers about how to reduce wait times for services, etc. Except in the US it will be how to snag a seat on an airplane to Costa Rica because that's where all the good US docs are going to establish clinics.

Posted by: kallisto at March 19, 2010 07:45 AM (+FkcS)

124

It was a nice republic while it lasted.

Posted by: sandbagger at March 19, 2010 07:46 AM (mJg2y)

125 Alternatively, they'll blame Wreckers, Looters, Moochers, Hoarders.

Kulaks.

Posted by: Gaff at March 19, 2010 07:46 AM (jDWYv)

126 the CBO said this bill will save trillions of dollars... we can't afford to not do this.

Posted by: Obama at March 19, 2010 07:46 AM (V8B//)

127 According to this Web site, the current count is 193 Yes, 208 No, and with leaners 203 Yes, 211 No.

Posted by: Slappy at March 19, 2010 07:47 AM (ljvjO)

128 Yeah, I apologize for the profanity laced comments the last few days. I'm so fucking mad, I can't see straight.
Posted by: Twinks

Hellz, that's why I came here. I used to belong to a forum where cussing was discouraged.

Posted by: arhooley at March 19, 2010 07:47 AM (LGC1a)

129 the CBO said this bill will save trillions of dollars... we can't afford to not do this. Posted by: Obama at March 19, 2010 11:46 AM (V8B//) God dammit that's a bald faced lie!

Posted by: joncelli at March 19, 2010 07:48 AM (RD7QR)

130

It's starting to look like this piece of shit will pass.

Higher taxes and health insurance premiums?  What's not to like?

The GOP really should be hammering away at the senior demographic, pointing out that this bill makes huge cuts to Medicare.  Few things scare a politician as much as the prospect of 20 million old folks with lots of time on their hands come election day being pissed off at you.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 19, 2010 07:48 AM (rf03a)

131 Listening to this Obama speech is disgusting... the crowd is stroking his ego.

Posted by: Mjim at March 19, 2010 07:48 AM (V8B//)

132 I hate to rub salt in the wound. But please remember this the next time it's a choice between a Rino and a Dem. I wonder if all the people who sat out in 08' to send the Republicnas a "message" are having some regrets. Not saying we shouldn't work to get actual conservatives elected but if Mclame was POTUS at least we wouldn't be dealing with this POS bill. and this POS president.

Posted by: BruceTheRobert at March 19, 2010 07:48 AM (3ZwGl)

133

Cornered animals bite.

We're being corralled into an angular place.

Sharpen your fangs.

Is that the same as load your weapons?

<rhetorical>

Posted by: Roadking at March 19, 2010 07:49 AM (YwzFd)

134 Caterpillar says this turd will cost them 100 million in the first year alone. Manchurian Shit Bag is gonna ruin the country in one year.

Posted by: kansas at March 19, 2010 07:49 AM (mka2b)

135 3rd this legislation brings down the cost of healthcare.

A shot of pentobarbital does cost less than chemotherapy.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 19, 2010 07:49 AM (mR7mk)

136

126

You keed, right? That's how the Presentent won the damn election by spouting happy unicorn/horseshit. Can you imagine the absolute contempt he has for the citizens who are buying this line of manure? You know when he gets home he and his wife are dissolving into fits of laughter and fist-bumping while waiting for the White House chef to send up lobster canapes and a six of Corona.

Posted by: kallisto at March 19, 2010 07:49 AM (+FkcS)

137 I'm pretty convinced that if this passes, there will be violence.  The only question is the nature and degree.
Posted by: grognard

My fax to all the reps on the hit list warns of this. I call it CIVIL UNREST.

Posted by: arhooley at March 19, 2010 07:49 AM (LGC1a)

138 I simply can't wait to be put on a the bottom of a long list to see my neurologist or be told I can't have my drugs anymore because they will be deemed "too expensive."  I imagine some government fuck behind a desk telling me it I have to give it  up for the good of the nation.  FUCK. THAT. SHIT.

Posted by: mpfs at March 19, 2010 07:50 AM (iYbLN)

139 Honestly I doubt Obama won because people stayed home. Obama won because McCain didn't try, was a bad canidate, and Obama promised free unicorns.

There are more people in this country that believe in unicorns then working for their own keep.

Posted by: Gaff at March 19, 2010 07:50 AM (jDWYv)

140
UNIONS are stepping up the pressure. 
Just like the mob, the unions OWN the democrat party.

 Good news - the American people are over unions and their forcing of American jobs over-seas.


Posted by: Lemon Kitten at March 19, 2010 07:50 AM (0fzsA)

141 I don't understand how people can listen to this Orwellian bullshit and call this guy a genius.....ooh more sob stories.

Posted by: Mal at March 19, 2010 07:50 AM (Z+qzA)

142 Hollowpoint, 20 million old folks vs. 20+ million freshly minted "legal" illegal citizens.  They no longer care about pissing off the old timers. 

Posted by: Twinks at March 19, 2010 07:50 AM (wRPBa)

143 123

Hey dipshits: The "benefits" of this bill don't even kick in for three years!

Many of you shitheads will be dead by then.

Posted by: logprof at March 19, 2010 11:44 AM (Mmw0q)


good. it's a start.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Purveyor of Fine Meteors at March 19, 2010 07:51 AM (erIg9)

144 I am so sick of the liberal hypocrisy.  Scarborough had on a NYS senator from Harlem whose mama sent him to a private school.  The jackass is holding hearings about the NYC Charter schools, the only ones that are working.  He is claiming he has complaints.  Mica can be quite interesting since she pulled out a treatise from the NYC Teacher's union which knocks the charter schools.  So the NYS senator is the tool of the teacher's union which Peggy Noon an then said the politicians won't challenge cause of their sheer numbers but they aren't too big are they?

Anyway, Scarborugh said the head of the NYC teacher's union send her own kids to a private school.....

Come on people, stuff like that should be brought up and harped on over and over and over until someone gets it.

Posted by: curious at March 19, 2010 07:52 AM (p302b)

145 I don't understand how people can listen to this Orwellian bullshit and call this guy a genius..

I'm with you on that...

Posted by: Mjim at March 19, 2010 07:52 AM (V8B//)

146 Wrote to Boyd again (using my dad's name and address --hhehe).

Sir, the healthcare bill will bankrupt AMERICA.  YOU KNOW IT IN YOUR HEART.  Any talk otherwise is pie-in-the-sky, happy-fairy talk.

I came to this country in 1971 and busted my ass and SAVED MY HARD-EARNED MONEY to make it on my own.  This is the way to success not through wealth distribution.  All my friends are immigrants, too.  None of us will ever forgive you or the Democratic party if you steal our childrens' future from us - that we strove so hard for.

We will all contribute money to your opponents if you vote for this bill.

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at March 19, 2010 07:52 AM (MFQJZ)

147

Some say that this bill represents a Socialist takeover of healthcare that we can't afford.  Others suggest that anything short of Communism doesn't go far enough.

What's so bad about Communism anyways?

Posted by: Obama at March 19, 2010 07:52 AM (rf03a)

148 In just a few days a century long struggle will culminate in a historic vote

Posted by: Obama at March 19, 2010 07:53 AM (V8B//)

149 These poor, weak slugs . . . where in hell do the voters find this socialist trash?

Posted by: rplat at March 19, 2010 07:54 AM (G1ArL)

150 Well Dan Maffei guaranteed that all my time and money and efforts will be spent helping his opponent here.

I suggest all the Morons do the same in their Communist held districts this fall.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Purveyor of Fine Meteors at March 19, 2010 07:54 AM (erIg9)

151 Unclefacts,
I'm lucky I have Duncan Hunter, Jr. as my rep.

Posted by: mpfs at March 19, 2010 07:55 AM (iYbLN)

152 where in hell do the voters find this socialist trash

"Education"[sic] dept. of the local U.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 19, 2010 07:55 AM (mR7mk)

153 the bottom line = aggressively fighting for the right is the noblest sport in the world.

Posted by: Obama at March 19, 2010 07:56 AM (V8B//)

154 If you have never read Davy Crockett's speech to congress on charity and the story that lead up to it this is worth your time. It is also the perfect counterpoint to this asses blubbering.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 19, 2010 07:56 AM (tf9Ne)

155 We are going to fix HEALTHCARE!

God bless America!


Posted by: Obama at March 19, 2010 07:56 AM (V8B//)

156

Another Bastard

Defenestration!

http://tinyurl.com/yx6yvd

Posted by: Gerry Owen at March 19, 2010 07:57 AM (4Hy88)

157 Who would ever think that Obama could make Jimmy Carter look like Winston Churchill.

Posted by: dagny at March 19, 2010 07:57 AM (clgMu)

158 Well that was fast... thank god TOTUS is done scrolling

Posted by: Mjim at March 19, 2010 07:57 AM (V8B//)

159

Socialism usually occurs this way: quietly, in the background, with few people noticing until it's too late.

Which is why I say again, if you think McCain would have saved you, you haven't been paying attention to anything.

Posted by: Entropy at March 19, 2010 07:57 AM (IsLT6)

160 "you've got to stand with me just like you did this three years ago"

Shit, the man can't even count as high as the fingers on his left hand.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 19, 2010 07:57 AM (mR7mk)

161 "Education"[sic] dept. of the local U.

Very true, Bill Ayers figured out 30 years ago that taking over the schools works much better than bombs.

Posted by: Mal at March 19, 2010 07:58 AM (Z+qzA)

162 They're hoping for violence, Morons.  Makes it easier to sell the crackdown to the jellybrains.

Posted by: nickless at March 19, 2010 07:58 AM (MMC8r)

163 Mom and Dad are both 80. Mom has dementia; Dad has a pacemaker and a bypass under his belt. What do I tell them when they find out that some bureaucrat decided to cut off their care? What if they can't be put in a nursing home because of a waiting list? I'll take them into my home, of course, but then do I have to watch them die? Fuck Obama. Fuck the progs. I try to be reasonable but I love my family and my country.

Posted by: joncelli at March 19, 2010 07:58 AM (RD7QR)

164 Any moron meetups in DC this weekend? If you are staying on  the red-ish side of the bridge for it, post it on the Yahoo group site.

Posted by: dagny at March 19, 2010 07:58 AM (clgMu)

165 126 Mjim, holy f-ing shit....I literally have no words to describe my deep, deep hatred for Obama.  What stupid fuck could sit there and listen to this fuck face spouting shit like the bill being about "chasing your dreams" and they believe it!?!?  OMFG.  I'm beyond stunned, yet not.  How fucking sickening.

Yeah, I apologize for the profanity laced comments the last few days.  I'm so fucking mad, I can't see straight.

Posted by: Twinks at March 19, 2010 11:45 AM (wRPBa)

Believe me, a lot of us feel exactly the same way.  What makes it even worse is that these changes to our country and health care system are being pushed by a jerkoff with no relevant educational or private sector background that really had no business getting anywhere near the office of President.  But many wanted to say they voted for the first minority to become President, while ignoring the guy's far Left background and associations.  Too many of this group, especially those that regularly voted for Republicans in prior elections, are still hesitant to admit that they screwed up by voting for Obama and giving the Democrats full control of Congress and the White House.

Nonetheless, I've made sure to tell personal acquaintances that are in this group that they screwed up royally and now the country and all of us will have to pay for their emotion-ridden stupidity.  Some agree with me that they screwed up, but others spout the "Obama's trying to help the country" and "Give Obama a chance."  I would like to punch the latter group of morons right in the freakin' face.  If this thing passes, next week could finally be the time to do this.

Posted by: Slappy at March 19, 2010 07:59 AM (ljvjO)

166 Fuck that dago cocksucker.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 19, 2010 07:59 AM (ZxEhm)

167 Can you imagine the absolute contempt he has for the citizens who are buying this line of manure?

Pathological narcissists, like Obama, have no regard at all for those who worship them and will fuck them over in a heartbeat when its convenient.  They're kinda like the Ga'ould in that regard. 

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 19, 2010 08:00 AM (w5ptJ)

168 155 Unclefacts,
I'm lucky I have Duncan Hunter, Jr. as my rep.

Posted by: mpfs at March 19, 2010 11:55 AM (iYbLN)


Trade?

Posted by: Unclefacts, Purveyor of Fine Meteors at March 19, 2010 08:00 AM (erIg9)

169 Hmmm, NBC now reporting that House Dems want letter from the Senate guaranteeing reconciliation.

Posted by: runningrn at March 19, 2010 08:00 AM (CfmlF)

170

King George III of England (1776) is so proud of Barry, Nancy, and Harry.  He's flipping in his grave with joy, because he knew those stupid Americans could never last very long trying to govern themselves.  Democracy..Ha Ha...Freedom..Ha Ha....Bill of Rights...Ha Ha.....

Thank you Barry

Posted by: Sparky at March 19, 2010 08:00 AM (r0u40)

171 Yeah! Lets kill the babies and replace the with illegals!

Posted by: dagny at March 19, 2010 08:00 AM (clgMu)

172

It's over. The writing is on the wall. These pinkos will pass this monstrosity.

 

I hate these people. One year in power and it's scorched earth. Here comes demonpass and reconciliation for everything else. They know it will be a generation before they have this type of power again. Say hello to amnesty, cap & trade, and whatever else they can think of.

Posted by: fugazi at March 19, 2010 08:01 AM (4bvZp)

173 I just want to know what fantasy world these aholes are infesting?  I worked 7p-7a last night, and even on night shift people are talking about this and are pissed! What is going on?? Who are they listening to?  I don't live in Ortiz's district, but I do live in Texas, so the bastard gets a phone call, same for that bitch Jackson Lee.  Yes, I know the freaking commie is a solid yes, but she is still entitled to listen to me bitch!

Posted by: Katy Beth at March 19, 2010 08:02 AM (LHftA)

174

Which is why I say again, if you think McCain would have saved you, you haven't been paying attention to anything.

Posted by: Entropy

I'm perversely satisfied with the way things are going. The revolution had to come some time. Best to have it against the most gorgeous, empty, evil, leftist messiah ever.

Posted by: arhooley at March 19, 2010 08:02 AM (LGC1a)

175 I've been hearing a lot of radio spots urging people to urge Boccieri to vote NO. If there was that much activity before he did anything, he's going to have a hell of a time in November.

Posted by: Jeffrey Quick at March 19, 2010 08:02 AM (g9neE)

176 Unclefacts,
I'm lucky I have Duncan Hunter, Jr. as my rep.

Posted by: mpfs at March 19, 2010 11:55 AM (iYbLN)

Trade?

Posted by: Unclefacts, Purveyor of Fine Meteors

No fucking way.  He is mine!

Posted by: mpfs at March 19, 2010 08:02 AM (iYbLN)

177

Which brings me to the thought of how demeaning it would be to have the libtards; the crying emos; the limp wrists; the girly boys; the tiny little rats bring down the greatness of America.

Seriously, or is that Internet hyperbole? Barack Obama has said exactly two things that I believe: One was that the healthcare bill will pass. When he said that a week or two ago, I knew it was in the bag. I also figured there'd be some "comeback" drama, because his side loves it so. Offically, they'll be a couple of votes shy at H-hour, but then it'll pass, "surprising" everybody.

The other thing he said is that he will transform America. Also true, but the transformations won't be because of what he does, they'll be in spite of what he does. If you really think these little rats (good description, btw) can bring down America's greatness, then you underestimate this country and her people.

Posted by: FireHorse at March 19, 2010 08:03 AM (cQyWA)

178 Barry tells his cultists that they're going to make history this weekend.If he means finally tearing this country in two he's right.

Posted by: Mal at March 19, 2010 08:03 AM (Z+qzA)

179 They know it will be a generation before they have this type of power again. Say hello to amnesty, cap & trade, and whatever else they can think of.

Between this and cap & tax, there won't be anything left in a generation except the debt to China.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 19, 2010 08:04 AM (mR7mk)

180 142 I simply can't wait to be put on a the bottom of a long list to see my neurologist or be told I can't have my drugs anymore because they will be deemed "too expensive."  I imagine some government fuck behind a desk telling me it I have to give it  up for the good of the nation.  FUCK. THAT. SHIT.

Posted by: mpfs at March 19, 2010 11:50 AM (iYbLN)

I'm already in this position because my only choice of healthcare is a state pool for uninsurables. But I have not, for one day, sold out my principles for empty promises.

Posted by: Antimatter at March 19, 2010 08:04 AM (gbCNS)

181 Don't worry everyone.  Let's not rush to judgement.  You just need to let them "... pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it."

Who are we to question Pelosi, Obama, Ried, and the rest?  It's not as if they were elected to represent us.  Rather, they were elected because they know what is best for us ... right?

Posted by: Kevin at March 19, 2010 08:05 AM (p7H/Y)

182 One was that the healthcare bill will pass. When he said that a week or two ago, I knew it was in the bag.

So were the Chicago Olympics of 2016. Quit despairing in their Aura of Inevitability and keep dialing.

Posted by: arhooley at March 19, 2010 08:05 AM (LGC1a)

183

Mom and Dad are both 80. Mom has dementia;

My mother in law is also 80 (well soon to be) and has dementia.  What a horrible, horrible disease. 

Posted by: jewells at March 19, 2010 08:05 AM (l/N7H)

184 Remember morons:  Leave the gun, take the cannolis.

Words to live by.

Posted by: mpfs at March 19, 2010 08:05 AM (iYbLN)

185

Which is why I say again, if you think McCain would have saved you, you haven't been paying attention to anything.

Posted by: Entropy at March 19, 2010 11:57 AM (IsLT6)

It wouldn't have been this bad and the dems wouldn't have followed him in lockstep.

Posted by: dagny at March 19, 2010 08:05 AM (clgMu)

186 This guy was one of her pocket votes last time. The fact she had to use him is telling. It's close.

Posted by: Jollyroger at March 19, 2010 08:06 AM (j41kk)

187

Hollowpoint, 20 million old folks vs. 20+ million freshly minted "legal" illegal citizens.  They no longer care about pissing off the old timers. 

Show up on election day bright and early when the polls open.  Count the number of old people vs the number of immigrants.

You don't win over the public with long-term analysis of the cost trends and CBO reports.  You win by keeping it simple- it's how Obama got elected in the first place.  The GOP should be running ads non-stop during Wheel of Fortune and Matlock reruns pointing out that this bill makes huge cuts to Medicare and will increase health insurance premiums.

Posted by: Obama at March 19, 2010 08:06 AM (rf03a)

188

"RECOVERY"
Born Fall 2009
Died Spring 2010
Epitaph: The precocious little tyke was strangled in his crib by imbeciles.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 19, 2010 08:06 AM (w5ptJ)

189

Like the comments before me, there are not words for my hatred of these vile bastards. Going forward, when I encounter ANY dem or Chicago Jesus supporter, I will give them the same treatment I would a child molester. They have surely fucked the future for my children and grandchildren. Not a single kindness for them all. I wish nothing but miserable failure and pain for them.

What saddens me the most is that their "winning" argument to the people is;

They stand before the American people holding a dark colored bottle and say,

Drink this! It is a miracle and it will restore and improve your health, lower your costs, trim the deficit, create jobs, and provide disaster relief!!

US; What's in it?

Them; Various  things, all good for you!

US: Have you drank it?

Them; Why no I haven't but did I mention it was a miracle?

Posted by: Sgt. Fury at March 19, 2010 08:06 AM (XpWHj)

190 It's over. The writing is on the wall. These pinkos will pass this monstrosity.

Did you see the writing on the wall in Copenhagen? It said "CHICAGO OLYMPICS 2016!!!"

Posted by: arhooley at March 19, 2010 08:07 AM (LGC1a)

191 "To build may have to the slow and laborious task of years.  To destroy can be the thoughtless act of a single day." -- Sir Winston Churchill

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 19, 2010 08:07 AM (B+qrE)

192

It wouldn't have been this bad and the dems wouldn't have followed him in lockstep.

Eaten last by an anorexic tiger. Congrats.

Posted by: Entropy at March 19, 2010 08:08 AM (IsLT6)

193

156 And that, imho, is precisely where we made our (hopefully not in the long run) fatal mistake:  let's face it, we went to sleep and lived happy, comfortable, safe lives thinking that it would never end, never be threatened.  We let the foxes into the farmyard, thinking we were strong enough and perhaps lucky enough to never need worry about them making a straight line for the chicken coop.  We forgot that the world is indeed a very evil and dangerous place that America wasn't necessarily safe from and freedom is something you have to be vigilant and tough in order to keep; we forgot that not all enemies come from outside.  Now here we all are, and the big question is: does America still have the heart and the grit to get over this and forge ahead from a very serious setback? 

It's not over yet, and even if this stinkbomb does pass, it still isn't over.  As somebody already said above: see you in November.

Posted by: unknown jane at March 19, 2010 08:10 AM (5/yRG)

194 Just keep dialling!  DOn't give up or believe their BS.  If you have a break, call one of the worms.  Doing dishes, call, taking out the garbage, get on the portable phone and keep calling. And remember every one of them.  I'm starting a list of who voted for what.  That will help with my contributions and protesting

Posted by: Katy Beth at March 19, 2010 08:10 AM (LHftA)

195

So were the Chicago Olympics of 2016.

I never believed that. In fact, I never believed that Obama wanted the Olympics in Chicago.

When I said I believed Obama exactly twice, I was giving him too much credit. One truth was a half-truth, and the other time he told was an accident. Really: If he said the flag has 50 stars, I'd count them anyway.

Posted by: FireHorse at March 19, 2010 08:11 AM (cQyWA)

196 Quit whining and hit the phones, peeps! If this was one of her pocket Quislings, she's desperate.

Posted by: section9 at March 19, 2010 08:12 AM (H6lGz)

197 Dammit, Rush was explaining what's going on and I had to answer the damn phone!!! Did anyone catch it?

Posted by: jewells at March 19, 2010 08:12 AM (l/N7H)

198 I called my Rep Rahall this morning told the nice little staffer that my husband works in a non-union mine and we have great health care as part of that dangerous job,asked her very nicely if he had made up his mind about how he was going to vote and she said no said she would pass it on about my concerns I told her to also tell him that if he votes yes I will work for anyone that runs against him in Nov. also told her if he looses then so does she.Hmmm wonder when I will have a knock on my door now.

Posted by: TEE866 at March 19, 2010 08:12 AM (74lR/)

199 "a bunch of constituents who are standing around him as the reason he is voting yes" I don't get it -- he didn't understand that Obamacare was the solution to his constituents' problems until they explained it to him? Or is it that he didn't realize any of his constituents were sick until they told him, and then someone further explained that Obamacare, despite his previous misgivings, would help them? Can some Republican stand around surrounded by corpses and explain that they're why he's voting against Obamacare?

Posted by: Huh at March 19, 2010 08:13 AM (bN5ZU)

200 Oops- sock off

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 19, 2010 08:13 AM (rf03a)

201
Wrote Lincoln Davis. 

Get to work folks.  Pressure the shit out of them.  Promise to contribute to their opponents.  Promise to swear the Democratic Party off forever.  Keep it short and simple.

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at March 19, 2010 08:13 AM (MFQJZ)

202 I have sympathy and empathy, but not enough to give up my liberty.

May Boccieri slip on a boccie ball.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 19, 2010 08:14 AM (ympF8)

203

Drink this! It is a miracle and it will restore and improve your health, lower your costs, trim the deficit, create jobs, and provide disaster relief!!

US; What's in it?

Drink this! It is a miracle and it will restore and improve your health, lower your costs, trim the deficit, create jobs, and provide disaster relief!!

Them; Various  things, all good for you!

US: Have you drank it?

Them; Why no I haven't but did I mention it was a miracle?

 

 

I really hate these people too.  Of course our ruling elite and their families will be exempt from all this crap.  I still think that if they want to be leaders, they should lead by example and be the initial subjects of a pilot study to see if their bright idea works.  If it does, then fine (which it wouldn't) and if it didn't then the rest of us wouldn't have this crap foisted on us.  When the health care bill was being debated in committee, a Republican from WA state (Dave Reichart) tried to put in an ammendment that would force members of Congress to be subjected to the same health care reform as they want to legislate to us.  It was voted down on party lines.  All the Democrats voted no, and all the Republicans in committee voted yes.  Of course the majority party ruled. 

Posted by: runningrn at March 19, 2010 08:16 AM (CfmlF)

204

Hmmm, NBC now reporting that House Dems want letter from the Senate guaranteeing reconciliation.

And also a promise that they'd never, ever cum in their mouth.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 19, 2010 08:17 AM (rf03a)

205 I was afraid that this dickhead would cave.

Posted by: FatBaldnSassy at March 19, 2010 08:18 AM (Lq9ag)

206 Just the tip so I can see what it feels like.

Posted by: The Senate at March 19, 2010 08:19 AM (ympF8)

207 Hmmm, NBC now reporting that House Dems want letter from the Senate guaranteeing reconciliation. And also a promise that they'd never, ever cum in their mouth. And a pony!

Posted by: House Democrats at March 19, 2010 08:19 AM (RD7QR)

208

199 The Olympics was supposed to be the payback for helping Barry get into office...much like his contempt for the rank and file kool aide drinkers; Barry's contempt for the Chi-town pols, mobsters, union bosses, race hustlers, and affiliated thugs knows no bounds.  It is perhaps not such a wise feature in his narcissism.  I have long held the opinion that he despises everything, in particular those who he panders to for support -- in that regard he's very dangerous, but he does have some weaknesses that need to be exploited.

This vote will be close -- it still may fail.  I'll keep calling (although I feel a bit wrong doing it; these are not my reps). 

Posted by: unknown jane at March 19, 2010 08:20 AM (5/yRG)

209

205

I like your spirit. Your perspective as an immigrant is unique; I understand where you're coming from, my parents came here from Italy. Before the current travesty was elected, my prevailing thought was: My parents left their homeland to enjoy the benefits of a free United States, and in one generation I will have seen it shot to hell.

My best friend emigrated from Lebanon in the earl 1970s he is also appalled at what is occurring.

KILL THE BILL!

Posted by: kallisto at March 19, 2010 08:22 AM (+FkcS)

210

Hmmm, NBC now reporting that House Dems want letter from the Senate guaranteeing reconciliation.

Meaning that a vote or two or 20 they're counting on needs the reconciliation or at least needs the Senate letter as cover.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 19, 2010 08:24 AM (Vo2Ef)

211

Per the Corner,

Nick Rahall (WV-3) is a No.

Posted by: Gerry Owen at March 19, 2010 08:24 AM (4Hy88)

212

Although I'm feeling disgusted and helpless in this situation I'm still faxing,calling and emailing. This is not the end. I wrote one of my senators Mark Begich D(1st term ) who is a lost cause and will vote yes that I will do anything and everything in my power to see that he is only a one term senator and he recieved a promise to a job after he is voted out I will also fight against him.

The majority of Alaskan's do not want this to pass. He is voting strictly along party lines like a good lib and going against the will of his constituents.

Posted by: Bosk at March 19, 2010 08:25 AM (pUO5u)

213

All of this talk about getting revenge come November is all nice and sweet and stuff but really, what we will get is more R's than D's who will NOT do whatever they have to do to roll this garbage bill back.I just don't see the fight in the R's.

There are flashes of fight with certain R's such as Colburn but then again, what are we really seeing when Colburn dons the brass knuckles and throws a punch.What I see is a "single" Senator doing what we need ALL of them saying and doing in unison, it isn't there.

We need the R's to continue using any and all loopholes and legal proccesses to stop this garbage bill but at the same time these R sons a bitches need to bring their self described level of lividity up to the level of their constituents and join Colburn in a bare knuckle, take no prisoners brawl on these disgusting little socialist sons a bitches to let them know that there is nothing for them in accepting these bribes that are flying around at light speed in "our" capital.

People like me will not trust people like what we have in our political system if they don't bring it full bore NOW.Simply changing D's to R's does not give me so much as a single wink more at night.

Revenge is NOT putting a gutless politician into office who will have no stomach to roll bills like these back.It's not called being vengance, it's called being a sucker.

Posted by: Drider at March 19, 2010 08:25 AM (aZn+0)

214 215

Per the Corner,

Nick Rahall (WV-3) is a No.

Posted by: Gerry Owen at March 19, 2010 12:24 PM (4Hy8

If so, that's a Yes-to-No.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at March 19, 2010 08:25 AM (lk70u)

215

Jesus.

So it was like this yesterday:

Pelosi has 192 "definitely voting yes." This leaves her 24 votes shy of the necessary 216. There are 28 maybes ... and she needed to get 24 out of 28.

So today, with Boccieri declaring Yes, it's like this:

Pelosi has 193 "definitely voting yes." This leaves her 23 votes shy of the necessary 216. There are 27 maybes ... and she needs to get 23 out of 27.

Why all the wailing and gnashing of teeth? She was bound to get some of the 28 'Maybes'. Possibly Pelosi and the dems will pull this out, but the numbers say she's still got an uphill fight.

Posted by: Mr Natural at March 19, 2010 08:28 AM (4uW6N)

216 Yeah, maybe Christoph was right. The Stupak crowd is crumbling.

At least six anti-abortion-rights Democrats are open to supporting the healthcare bill if they can get a guarantee from the Senate that it will move separate legislation containing the House abortion language, one of those Democratic holdouts said Friday.

Link

Posted by: sharrukin at March 19, 2010 08:29 AM (593B8)

217 "The mystery of government is not how it works, but how to make it stop."
-P.J. O'Rourke

When/if this monstrosity of a bill is passed, it sure won't be easy to get it undone ... Government only gets bigger.

Posted by: Kevin at March 19, 2010 08:30 AM (p7H/Y)

218 135 Listening to this Obama speech is disgusting... the crowd is stroking his ego.

Posted by: Mjim at March 19, 2010 11:48 AM (V8B//)

 

stroking his WHAT

ego

Posted by: pitchforksandpowder at March 19, 2010 08:30 AM (vgX9V)

219 Gerry Owen
Care to give me a link on that because his staff sure didn't know that when I talked to them today.I'm on a borrowed lappy or I would just find it myself.

Posted by: TEE866 at March 19, 2010 08:31 AM (74lR/)

220 People, many of these defections to 'yes' are a planned part of the fauxmentum.

Posted by: nickless at March 19, 2010 08:32 AM (MMC8r)

221 220 Yeah, maybe Christoph was right. The Stupak crowd is crumbling.

I never believed there was such a thing as the "Stupak crowd". I have always believed that this will fail and that it will do so independent of any specific coalition of reps that the Democrats and the media have defined for us.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at March 19, 2010 08:33 AM (lk70u)

222 A No stays No per Bloomberg. Representative Dan Lipinski, an Illinois Democrat, who voted in favor of the original House bill, said today he’s switching his vote to “no,” citing concerns about abortion.

ps - original bill he was a yes, but he is a no already on Gabe's list.

Posted by: The Senate at March 19, 2010 08:33 AM (ympF8)

223

At least six anti-abortion-rights Democrats are open to supporting the healthcare bill if they can get a guarantee from the Senate that it will move separate legislation containing the House abortion language

Relax.  That won't happen. 

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at March 19, 2010 08:35 AM (ucq49)

224 Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at March 19, 2010 12:33 PM (lk70u)

Yeah, my opinion is that a lot of Democrats will vote Yes, despite what they huff and puff to the media. It's all just a dog and pony show for most of them.

Posted by: sharrukin at March 19, 2010 08:38 AM (593B8)

225 Posted by: Kevin at March 19, 2010 12:30 PM (p7H/Y)

I like this quote:
"If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free."-P.J. O'Rourke

Posted by: Mal at March 19, 2010 08:38 AM (Z+qzA)

226

Relax.  That won't happen. 

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at March 19, 2010 12:35 PM (ucq49)

The guarantee, or actually following through on it? Separate legislation is entirely possible, not that I think it will pass a Democratic vote.

Posted by: sharrukin at March 19, 2010 08:40 AM (593B8)

227 219

Why all the wailing and gnashing of teeth? She was bound to get some of the 28 'Maybes'. Possibly Pelosi and the dems will pull this out, but the numbers say she's still got an uphill fight.

Posted by: Mr Natural at March 19, 2010 12:28 PM (4uW6N)

I hope I'm wrong but I'm concerned that the Democrats basically have the votes to pass the bill but they are fighting amongst themselves about who will be able to vote "No" and thus save their political careers.

Posted by: Slappy at March 19, 2010 08:48 AM (ljvjO)

228 I hope I'm wrong but I'm concerned that the Democrats basically have the votes to pass the bill but they are fighting amongst themselves about who will be able to vote "No" and thus save their political careers.

That's my fear as well.  They know they are going to lose big in November, so they are trying to figure out how many they can afford to lose, and in which districts, in order to maintain a slim majority next year.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 19, 2010 09:00 AM (Gk/wA)

229 Take one last look at the free republic of the USA, before it is merged this weekend into the statist European goo from which it emerged, and start thinking about what replaces it.  Shall we build a new free republic of America?  where and with whom?

Posted by: Les Grossman at March 19, 2010 09:05 AM (jat5l)

230 Go Orunj!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama - The 'H' is silent! at March 19, 2010 09:31 AM (Od7rw)

231 Its OVER. If you did not read the tea leaves, not only will this monstrosity pass, but ... The elections will return Dems. Because they will use the same thing to make 40 million Mexicans instant citizens. Duh. End of America. And don't forget who helped make that happen: Blacks, Hispanics, SWPL Yuppies, Gays, and of course Women. All of whom who helped get Obama elected. His base.

Posted by: whiskey at March 19, 2010 09:57 AM (L03mw)

232 He's giving a fairly emotional speech using a bunch of constituents who are standing around him as the reason he is voting yes.

Hey, when you're heading off on a suicide mission; bring some human shields.  Standard tactics.

Posted by: Gekkobear at March 19, 2010 01:23 PM (jBr5Z)

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