1 4000 posts or bust!

2 I actually have a conservative friend who is excitedly going to see this.  I'm not sure why (I think  she has a relative in the production crew).

3 So this is like a Mexico's Avatar except it was made by pretentious Americans pretending to be high minded poor Mexicans? Is that what they are doing? I don't watch those movies. I'm slow. I still enjoy the symbolisms from the 1950s.

4 Commissioned U.S. Army Officers have become a disgrace to America.

 www.dianawest.net

If evidence in the court martial trial of Lieut. Col. Terry Lakin -- the Bronze-Star-decorated lead flight surgeon who has knowingly triggered his own court martial in his efforts to verify the Constitutional eligibility of President Obama -- might be an "embarrassment" to President Obama, the presiding judge Army Col. Denise R. Lind has in effect ruled, then there just won't be any evidence in the court martial trial of LTC Terry Lakin.

Is this really America 2010, or have we taken a time-warped detour to 1930s Soviet Union?

Prosecutorial misconduct, no evidence for the defense -- what next for LTC Lakin?

Nothing good if the public, mostly cowed into acquiescence by a babyish fear of being mocked as a bad name (“birther”) remains silent. Fortunately, senior military men such as retired three-star  General Tom McInerney are starting to speak out on Lakin's behalf.

After all, all we're talking about here is just asking the president to show a little i.d.

5 This could never be anything but bad. It's a great premise but there is no way to execute such a film today and make it work. If you killed all the white people in America you wouldn't end up with a prosperous Mexican America. You'd just make the hell that is Mexico bigger. Most of what little properity there is in Mexico is due to American companies, that is white people mostly, investing there and building there. If Machete really wanted to save Mexicans he would lead a revolution in Mexico to get them to petition to become the 51st state.

6 It is the law and culture. Race has no bearing except some flavors taste better.

7 DeNiro - what was he thinkng. If anything.

8 I swear by  Barack Hussein Obama this sacred oath that I shall render unconditional obedience to Barack Hussein Obama, the Supreme Ruler of the ACORN Reich, supreme commander of the armed forces, Divine Ruler of all that he surveys and that I shall at all times be ready, as a subservient soldier, to sell my honor and soul to keep him from any possible embarrassment.” (Emanuel Rahm Form 666)

9 Obama himself is the only one who ever brings up his birth certificate. Why does he do that? Super-double-secret-reverse psychology?

10 I swear by  Barack Hussein Obama this sacred oath...

Blah, blah, blah.  Take a pill, threadjacker.

11 I laughed, I cried, I kissed ten bucks goodbye! Loved it!

12 Think I'll miss this and watch "Born in East L.A." again instead....

13 Have any of the Morons seen this movie? if so, how was it?

14 I'll take that pill just to be sure.

15 You left out the best part of Nolte's review

For the record, I believe in the American melting pot. My wife was born in Mexico, English is her second language, and she didn’t become an American citizen until she was in her twenties. For that reason, and others, my family is more racially diverse than the bus passengers in “Speed.” So I guess that what I’m really trying to say is, fuck you Robert Rodriguez.

jQuery('#lazyload_post_0 img').lazyload({placeholder: '/wp-includes/images/blank.gif'});Think he's trying out to be a regular here at AoSHQ

16 I'll take that pill just to be sure.

It's the blue one...

17 Speaking of thread-jacking, everyone aware of (former ACC Defensive Player of the Year) BC's Mark Herzlich's return to football after a bout with cancer? It went very well. Pretty much a made-for-TV movie.

18 Come on man,,,give some reds.

19 DeNiro - what was he thinkng. If anything.

Face it, De Niro's been phoning it in for a while.

God love the guy, but this isn't a shock.

20 If I don't get to see Alba's tits, I won't even put this on my NetFlix queue.

21 Classic La Raza bullshit.  I oversaw a plant down in Texas where the guys runnin' it were 98% Mexican; supervisors, laborers everyone.  Almost to a man they were hardworking, good-natured family men- and very entrepreneurial.  Great guys, and I was proud to have many of them as friends.  Every once in a while we'd get a "The Race" type who would try and stir up shit in the break room, usually to the derisive laughter of the guys.  The best retort I ever heard was when one of our maintenance guys told one particular activist wannabe, "if Texas was under the control of people like you, the rest of us would be trying to get across the Red river".  The dude was speechless, and never came back after his shift ended. 

22 21 If I don't get to see Alba's tits, I won't even put this on my NetFlix queue.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at September 04, 2010 07:35 PM (LH6ir)

pretty much this.

23 Best last line of any review, ever.

24
Refuse to pay to see this POS. Buy a ticket for some other movie and walk into this one. Or buy one for your kid and take the whole family in with you. He's your anchor ticket kid, or something.

25 As we say around our campfire:

Fuck 'em, we learned the recipe for carne asada years ago.

26 This is that movie about the white dude killing a bunch of Mexicans with a machete, right?  Sound really racist to me, can't believe H'wood would make such a...what? You say machete is a Mexican that kills whites? oh well that's okay then

Carry on.

27 Ah, I liked some of this director's stuff but looks like he jumped la sharka

28 I saw it last night in a San Antonio theater with some lib friends. It was pretty uncomfortable to sit through as the race component was prevalent through the movie. Of course no distinction was ever made between immigration and illegal immigration. From a fun over the top violent movie, it was worth watching. I've never thought Rodriguez's movies were great works, but I see them just on account of him being from the hometown, and having gone to high school with his sister. So yeah, I'd say it's got a repugnant underlying philosophy, but I might watch it again just for fun.

29

We teach them to take their patriotism at second-hand; to shout with the largest crowd without examining into the right or wrong of the matter, exactly as boys under monarchies are taught and have always been taught. We teach them to regard as traitors, and hold in aversion and contempt, such as do not shout with the crowd, and so here in our democracy we are cheering a thing which of all things is most foreign to it and out of place, the delivery of our political conscience into somebody elseÂ’s keeping. This is patriotism on the Russian plan.
- Mark Twain

In times of change, the Patriot is a scarce man; brave, hated and scorned. If his cause succeeds, however, the timid will join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot.
- Mark Twain

Each of you, for himself, by himself and on his own responsibility, must speak. And it is a solemn and weighty responsibility, and not lightly to be flung aside at the bullying of pulpit, press, government, or the empty catchphrases of politicians. Each must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, and which course is patriotic and which isnÂ’t. You cannot shirk this and be a man. To decide against your convictions is to be an unqualified and inexcusable traitor, both to yourself and to your country, let man the sheeple label you as they may. If you alone of all the nation shall decide one way, and that way be the right way according to your convictions of the right, you have done your duty by yourself and by your country.
- Mark Twain

30 jesus Ace is there a movie you haven't seen ?

31 jesus Ace is there a movie you haven't seen ?

Jesus Ace?  I didn't know the Ewok was Hispanic.

32 20 DeNiro - what was he thinkng. If anything.

Face it, De Niro's been phoning it in for a while.

God love the guy, but this isn't a shock.

Posted by: AD at September 04, 2010 07:33 PM (8DYcd)

The man is getting old.  He just turned 67, and not everyone is Clint Eastwood.

33

This all but literally makes my blood boil. I now feel ashamed that I was ever in the U.S. Army. Bad enough that we have anti-troop (ROE) and pro-Islam Generals like Petraeus and Casey and now this treachery. If LTC Lakin can not present this evidence he is being denied any and all defense. It is nothing but a Kangaroo Court. This judge has elevated Obama to having the divine right of kings not to be embarrassed. Herr Obama’s possible embarrassment, which implies that Lakin may be on to something, is placed above this man probably getting a dishonorable discharge and possibly serving years in prison. The fix and the verdict is already in. Like the Red Queen from Alice and Wonderland, “Verdict first, evidence later”. Except even worse as it evidence, never.

This Army judge is violating her very oath of office. And all Army officers who remain silent at this Kangaroo Court outrage are arguably in violation of theirs.

“I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God.” (DA Form 71)

The above seems to have been replaced with this!

I swear by Adolf Hitler Barack Hussein Obama this sacred oath that I shall render unconditional obedience to Barack Hussein Obama, the Supreme Ruler of the ACORN Reich, supreme commander of the armed forces, Divine Ruler of all that he surveys and that I shall at all times be ready, as a subservient soldier, to sell my honor and soul to keep him from any possible embarrassment.” (Emanuel Rahm Form 666)

If it wasnÂ’t for the fact that it gets me a 10% discount at Home Depot, I would burn my DD-214.

34 3I actually have a conservative friend who is excitedly going to see this.  I'm not sure why (I think  she has a relative in the production crew).

Posted by: EZBat September 04, 2010 07:18 PM (fa9yq)

 

Why am I, a concervative, going to see this movie?  Because of this:

http://tiny.cc/sg2c0

Flat out, Danny Trejo is the baddest-ass dude on screen.  Almost everything I've seen with him has been good.

Anyway, I really hope Nolte is wrong.

When I stumble in tonight, I'll post my opinion.  Drunkenly, of course.  With my hobo-blood stained fingers slipping on the keyboard.  Because after watching the blade master at work, I'll be inspired to do a few copy cat kraaazy slayin's myself.

Oh, and if anyone can find the rest of that clip on Youtube, that'd be great.  The one above cuts off half way through.

35

Let's see...a racial minority calling for ...the start of racial violence. Good thinking.

Next up: bulls calling for the expansion of bullfighting.

36 I wonder how well the movie will do.  A lot of liberal-message movies tank; the rare conservative-ish films tend to do well, but that's not set in stone.  Avatar, for example.

Though maybe Rodriguez is aiming for the international markets anyway.

37 Well, that saves me ten bucks from watching that kind of crap.  (I was sorta hoping it would be kinda cool.) If I wanted to watch anti-American shit, I would just tune in and watch me some mainstream TV.  I guess I'll go see "The Expendables" instead.

38 Face it, if DeNiro is not playing a gangster or a psycho, he ain't much.  And in reality, most gangsters are psychos, so he's pretty much a one note monkey...

39 Flat out, Danny Trejo is the baddest-ass dude on screen.  Almost everything I've seen with him has been good.

If you're a conservative watching movies in the US for a few years you've already learned how to enjoy a movie even if it's filled with leftist agitprop.  Just go and enjoy the 'splosions.

40 Goddamn it. I'll still probably go see it, though.

41 " Almost to a man they were hardworking, good-natured family men- and very entrepreneurial. Great guys, Posted by: Alamo at September 04, 2010 07:36 PM (vUZsn)" That's been my experience, too.

42 I'd rather see Eat Pray Get Bored to Death again.  At least I got some rest.

43 Also, Nolte didn't exactly dissuade me when he described that incestuous three-way.

44 42 " Almost to a man they were hardworking, good-natured family men- and very entrepreneurial. Great guys,

Posted by: Alamo at September 04, 2010 07:36 PM (vUZsn)"

That's been my experience, too.

Posted by: Bugler at September 04, 2010 07:48 PM (VXBR1)

They say bad governance is what makes a country suck, not resources or culture.  Oh crap.

45

Why am I, a concervative, going to see this movie?  Because of this:

http://tiny.cc/sg2c0

Flat out, Danny Trejo is the baddest-ass dude on screen.  Almost everything I've seen with him has been good.

Well, I've watched that movie 1245 times just for Antonio Banderas.  I'd watch ANYTHING with him in it... If he's nekkid, all the better....I'll wear the pause button out.

46

7:10 pm, Pacific time.  That's when I'm watching this thing.  Hope I'm not pissed off when I leave the theatre.

I do have a concern about this movie.  The first, "fake" trailor showed machette as some day laborer, who was convinced to assassinate some U.S. senator.

OK, I can dig that.  Some billy badass.  Kinda like the guy from that "desperado" clip.  A genuine bad guy, but a theatrical one.

But then in a real trailor Robert Rodriquez put out later, it turns out Machette is an ex-Federale.  OK, I can dig it.  Ex-cop goes rogue/bad.  Cool.

But then there's a clip with Jessica Alba, who I guess is a U.S. cop.  And Machette somehow gets the drop on her, but he gives her back her gun after they talk.  And she says "big deal, you didn't give it back to me loaded. And Machette says "yeah, I did, because we both carry or carried the badge."

And I'm like, "what the fuck?"  Is he a bad guy or not?  If he's a bad guy, killing the senator is understandable.  If he's a good guy, how can he be killing the senator?

At this point, I started to get seriously worried about this film.

Anyway, I'm seeing it in two hours.  Because of Danny Trejo's past work.

47 Also, Nolte didn't exactly dissuade me when he described that incestuous three-way.

Posted by: AndrewR at September 04, 2010 07:50 PM (APD1F)

With Lindsay Lohan? No thanks. Now Salma Hayek okay. Is she in this?

48 This is the exactly type of movie Hollywood needs to make in order to avoid a "bailout".

49

Any of you peckerwoods seen my 'slade?

50 Look, Trejo is great playing criminals because he's a FUCKING CRIMINAL (or was).  The best actor on the Sopranos was the fucker that played Paulie Walnuts because it wasn't acting-  He was a gangster.

Geez I guess some you fuckers would like to see us empty out the prisons and send all these loathsome miscreants to the Actors Studio......

51 Nolte: "Machete" Racist, Anti-American Suckpile
Does that count as a thumbs-up?

Posted by: toby928 at September 04, 2010 07:55 PM (S5YRY)

Clearly.

52 48 Also, Nolte didn't exactly dissuade me when he described that incestuous three-way.

Posted by: AndrewR at September 04, 2010 07:50 PM (APD1F)

With Lindsay Lohan? No thanks. Now Salma Hayek okay. Is she in this?

Posted by: Rocks at September 04, 2010 07:53 PM (ivAmM)

Yeah, a three-way with her mother would be a MILF, a 24-year-old who looks like a grandmother, and you.

53

okay feralcat, we get it, hush now, we are talking about alba's boobies

48  Now Salma Hayek okay

superiorly hawt female, she needs to have my babies

54 Rodriguez has only made one and a half good movies: El Mariachi and about half of From Dusk Til Dawn. If it weren't for Tarantino's pushing him, he'd be working the paint counter at a local Home Depot. This La Raza bullshit has been around since the 1970's, though. There was a bunch of drive-in splatter-films back then that had basically the same premise, and Mexican gangster movies have made this kind of thing a staple. Even Cormac McCarthy's No Country For Old Men is far off (though I like that movie a great deal). The thing is: even American latinos don't really believe the La Raza stuff. They know as well as anyone else that Mexico is a shit-hole; that's why everyone wants to come here. They don't want to turn America into Mexico, even the fulminating Chicano firebrands. It's a kind of performance-art, not a real political issue.

55

I like you EZB.  Yer a cool chick.  In the spirit of hollywood cheese-cake, I present you this.

http://tiny.cc/sg2c0

You're welcome.

56 Give money to Ace. Don't give money to creeps.

57 They say bad governance is what makes a country suck, not resources or culture.  Oh crap.

Unfortunately, bad governance will encourage (through subsidy) a horrible culture.  We're on our way.  Oh crap is right.........

58 Incidentally, Danny Trejo's best character was that of "Octavio" on King of the Hill. (They actually gave his character the same chest-tattoo that Trejo himself has.)

59 This movie is indescribable, it actually has healing powers. After viewing it (and changing my shirt due to it being soaked in my tears), I was able to speak in complete sentences for the 1st time in years. Thank you Machete!

60 Well the good thing is that at least there are no violent Mexicans on the boarder that this movie could inspire.

61 I mean't to say that No Country For Old Men *isn't* far off Machete, though it obviously is making a more subtle and well-executed point. And Jack Nicholson was in a pretty good movie back in the early 1980's called The Border. Anyway, it's not as if this thing has never been done before -- it has been, and far better.

62 Lefties can have your money, not mine (as much as possible). Wait until it is on Amazon for a buck.

63 52Look, Trejo is great playing criminals because he's a FUCKING CRIMINAL (or was).  The best actor on the Sopranos was the fucker that played Paulie Walnuts because it wasn't acting-  He was a gangster.

Geez I guess some you fuckers would like to see us empty out the prisons and send all these loathsome miscreants to the Actors Studio......

Posted by: Alamo at September 04, 2010 07:56 PM (vUZsn)

OK dude, I already knew about both those guy's pasts.  And that's the thing.  It is way in their past.

So no, I don't want the prisons emptied just for good movies or good character actors.

And just for the record, I know all about your rotten past.  Keep flaming me and I'll post it for all the morons to read.

64

57  dude, chicks don't get cheese cake

here's some for the morons, i'm a giver

http://tinyurl.com/33c8xws

65 I wonder how many of these uber-hip movie reviewers would be lauding "Birth of a Nation" for being "gory fun"? (Yeah, yeah, I know: racism only applies to white people.)

66

That's terrific that hollywood is producing movies to foment revolution, invasion, murder.................in the US?????????? Sure, everybody should see it because they like an actor in it???? The producers and writers should make money normalizing the idea of mexican's violently invading the US??

Seriously?

67 For some reason Rodriguez thinks it's clever to make big budget remakes of 70s schlock. It could be fun to watch if it weren't such thin gruel and so overblown.

For those who remember that crap was full of half-bakes pseudo revolutionary, anti-American "messages." Apparently any idea of improving on this is beyond him.

68 OK, so the idea is to advance the cause of Mexican or, generally, hispanic Americans in the United States and sympathize with their cause, the cause of getting the hell out of Mexico and the vehicle by which this is done is to have a main character who is a knife-wielding homicidal maniac.

Do I have that about right?

69

EZB,

So, how'd you like that Antonio Banderas cheese cake I posted for you?  Here's some more...

http://tiny.cc/bvcbs

You're welcome.

70 "okay feralcat, we get it, hush now, we are talking about alba's boobies

superiorly hawt female, she needs to have my babies"

You're right. I need to go work on my shrine to Lord Obama and get in some practice bowing to it before the weekend is over.

71 71 Yeah. He's like George Washington or Patton or something.

72 Monty-

Did you read "No Country.."?   McCarthy was lamenting the basic breakdown in manners and respect that ultimately lead to the total disregard for convention, the rule of law, and human life.  Not that the movie could flesh out completely what CM was driving at.

Of course I could be wrong; there are sites dedicated to dissecting McCarthy lorded over by professors of lit and other elitist bullshitters, and some of them disagree.  But them some of them saw the same conservative vale streak in the work and were rather discomfited by that realization.

73 Ed, thanks....
I  have plenty on my hardrive  

74 If you're deciding to see a movie based on the acting talent of one Danny Trejo, you may want to expand your horizons. May I recommend the collective works of  Keanu Reeves.

75 Ohhhrrrrrr yeah this flick is a pure pile of shit.

76
I'm guessing if the Taliban made a movie about the awesome hard-on fun of flying fully loaded passenger jets into tall New York buildings, some of you would pay to see it if it included 23 seconds of a nun, her mother and one of the hijackers having simulated sex.

77

Navycopjoe, that was good.  But nothing I've seen tops this strip tease.

http://tiny.cc/5u4gk

78 Well, I see Lindsay Lohan finally found a role she is quite familiar with. http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/files/2010/09/machete-lohan.jpg

79 By the way did Jessica Alba's baby turn out brown like she hoped?

80 May I recommend the collective works of  Keanu Reeves.

Hey!  Turn the sound off and he's still pleasant to look at.

81 Wow, my first flame you call it?  And not even intentional.  A simple comment on the guys background in good fun- I guess I didn't account for thin skin.  Please don't expose me.......

82 78If you're deciding to see a movie based on the acting talent of one Danny Trejo, you may want to expand your horizons. May I recommend the collective works of  Keanu Reeves.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at September 04, 2010 08:11 PM (Y81Xa)

Heh.  That's pretty funny.  Yeah, I'm not gonna try to say Danny Trejo is the next embodiment of, oh I don't know, Jack Nicholson or something.

But if you want the ultimate bad ass mexican gangster, he's your man.

And no, I haven't seen him in SpyKids.  Don't go tryin' to bust my balls over that shit.

83 83 By the way did Jessica Alba's baby turn out brown like she hoped? Posted by: Rocks at September 04, 2010 08:14 PM (ivAmM) Heaven forbid people like her or Madonna or Angelina Jolie do anything as unfashionable as raise a Person of Non-Color, Huh?

84 Martin Luther King wasn't afraid of the N-word. He was not cowed into silence. Why are so many "conservative"/"patriots in their own minds" bloggers afraid of the B-word?

Profiles in Courage? NOT!

85 What the hell is the B word?

86 @78: Keanu Reeves is the Jedi Master of emoting without benefit of facial expressions.

87 some of you would pay to see it if it included 23 seconds of a nun, her mother and one of the hijackers having simulated sex.

Yes, we would.  Not seeing the problem here...

88 90 What the hell is the B word? Posted by: Rocks at September 04, 2010 08:20 PM (ivAmM) B.. I... T... BITCH. Got it?

89 Buzzkill?

90 Posted by: FeralCat at September 04, 2010 08:19 PM (NE5O6)

Okay, god help me for asking this, but...

B-word?

91 Ummm.... Do you know of such a movie?

92 85Wow, my first flame you call it?  And not even intentional.  A simple comment on the guys background in good fun- I guess I didn't account for thin skin.  Please don't expose me.......

Posted by: Alamo at September 04, 2010 08:16 PM (vUZsn)

Don't worry Alamo.  Ed is feeling most forgiving this evening, and he forgives you for your transgression.

You're welcome.

(You can tell I'm being exceptionally municifent by refering to myself in the third person.)

93 Bogey?

94 80
I'm guessing if the Taliban made a movie about the awesome hard-on fun of flying fully loaded passenger jets into tall New York buildings, some of you would pay to see it if it included 23 seconds of a nun, her mother and one of the hijackers having simulated sex.

Posted by: Atomic Roach at September 04, 2010 08:11 PM (rMMMP)

Played by who?

95 B.. I... T... BITCH.

Got it?

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 04, 2010 08:20 PM (tJjm/)

Okay. So we aren't supposed to say that now? Fine with me as long as I can still say Broad.

96 92 some of you would pay to see it if it included 23 seconds of a nun, her mother and one of the hijackers having simulated sex. And your point?

97

Played by who?

Posted by: Ace's liver at September 04, 2010 08:22 PM (LtIsn)

Yeah. Definitely not if the nun is Lindsay Lohan. I wouldn't watch 23 seconds of her sex tape for fear she might say something.

98 102 "...some of you would pay to see it if it included 23 seconds of a nun, her mother and one of the hijackers having simulated real sex." THAT'S better!

99

102some of you would pay to see it if it included 23 seconds of a nun, her mother and one of the hijackers having simulated sex.

Well it depends.  Is Salma Hyak the nun, the mother, or the hijacker?  I mean, I have to consider the totality of the circumstances and context.

100 They don't want to turn America into Mexico, even the fulminating Chicano firebrands. It's a kind of performance-art, not a real political issue.  Posted by: Monty

So which Mexicans wanted Mexico to become a hell on Earth?

Miserable countries don't become so because some people were hoping for misery; they become miserable when the predominant culture is willing to let things slide and the whole thing turns into an avalanche.

101 88 Martin Luther King wasn't afraid of the N-word. He was not cowed into silence. Why are so many "conservative"/"patriots in their own minds" bloggers afraid of the B-word?

Profiles in Courage? NOT!

Posted by: FeralCat at September 04, 2010 08:19 PM (NE5O6)

discretion is the better part of valor

102 That's the first thing I think of when someone refers to themselves in third person, munificence.  Richard Nixon, Rickey Henderson, Mike Tyson.....

103 Not paying $20 of your hard earned money to go see an anti-American piece of cinematic agitprop is almost as bad as objecting to building a 13 story skyscraper mosque where 3,000 people were killed in the name of Islam!

104 Is Salma Hyak the nun, the mother, or the hijacker? I mean, I have to consider the totality of the circumstances and context. Posted by: Ed at September 04, 2010 08:25 PM (Zsqn4) In an amazing feat of gymnastic flexibility, Selma manages to play herself AND her mother in the sex scene, in real time.

105 In an amazing feat of gymnastic flexibility, Selma manages to play herself AND her mother in the sex scene, in real time.

I am *so* there.

106 109That's the first thing I think of when someone refers to themselves in third person, munificence.  Richard Nixon, Rickey Henderson, Mike Tyson.....

Posted by: Alamo at September 04, 2010 08:27 PM (vUZsn)

Heh.  I'll admit it, that was prettty clever.  That got a laugh out of me.

107 Machete--I can't believe it's actually seeing wide release. Obviously it's purpose is to incite Hispanics against "the gringo." And you know, I don't object to their right to do it, to sell tickets, or whatever. But the media will be silent on it, or even praise it. Sick.

108 Boy, oh boy! Can't wait to wheel Harrison out of the nursing home for Indiana Jones and the Cracker Machete of Doom!

109 FeralCat, take your meds, get a good night sleep. Come back tomorrow. Because you're just being an ass right now.

110 "Okay, god help me for asking this, but...

B-word?
Posted by: AD at September 04, 2010 08:21 PM"

I very much doubt that God is reading this thread. If He is then God help us all.

B-word = B-I-R-T-H-E-R.

111 What, no movie about exploited Chinamen killing Whitey? RACISTS!!!

112 It would be better too if it was a hijacker, a nun and the mother superior (who happens to be very young looking or promoted early) so they don't creep me out when they start making out. If the casting was Oded Fahr, Emily Blunt and Salma Hayek then I think I would probably even buy the DVD.

113 B-word = B-I-R-T-H-E-R.

Posted by: FeralCat at September 04, 2010 08:33 PM (NE5O6)

Okay, because it's bullshit and it makes us look bad.

114 BTW, am I the only one smelling moby here?

115 "FeralCat, take your meds, get a good night sleep. Come back tomorrow.

Because you're just being an ass right now. Posted by: XBradTC at September 04, 2010 08:33 PM "

I can't take my meds just yet. If I do then I will just start yapping about some childish movie and then fall asleep and won't be able to finish my shrine to Lord Obama and bow down to it at least 6 times before the weekend is over.

116 BTW, am I the only one smelling moby here?

Posted by: AD at September 04, 2010 08:36 PM (8DYcd)

Why do you think anyone would want to join you in smelling Moby?

117 What, no movie about exploited Chinamen killing Whitey?

RACISTS!!!

There was a movie version of Kung Fu in 1986.  Do keep up.

118

Why do you think anyone would want to join you in smelling Moby?

Posted by: Rocks at September 04, 2010 08:37 PM (ivAmM)

Good point.

119 @121: nope, but as mobies at AoSHQ are wont, whoever it is contributed mightily to the overall quality of this thread. It's not everyday we talk about sex scenes between young, impressionable nuns and their Mother Superior-position....

120 It's not everyday we talk about sex scenes between young, impressionable nuns and their Mother Superior-position....

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 04, 2010 08:38 PM (tJjm/)

Again, good point.

121
Hey Rodriquez - fix your own damn country.  Then maybe you won't need to take over ours.  Thanks.

Lefty = liberty kill.

122 Hell to me it sounds like Rodriguez has just made a derivative "victim bites his tormentor on the ass" movie. Most of the blaxploitation flicks of the sixties had the same theme-  "The Man" is responsible for our woes and we're going to stick it to him (meaning kill whitey as gruesomely as possible). The black gangster never blaming who was selling the dope to the people, it was the Italian gangster who was the wholesaler and the corrupt cops who were his allies.  Even liberal Hollywood's most basic formula is "Big corporation is killing little people for profit, and the hero will make them pay".  To add a little variety, change big corporation to "right wing cabal within the government" and you've covered about 70 percent of what the movie industry generates.

123 Miserable countries don't become so because some people were hoping for misery; they become miserable when the predominant culture is willing to let things slide and the whole thing turns into an avalanche.

Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at September 04, 2010 08:26 PM (23kaI)

Exactly.  Mexico doesn't have a shitty government as a result of random chance.  For that matter, neither do we.  A lack of a strong, upright culture is what causes it.  Our cultural rot took root in the early 1900s and started to really bloom in the 1960s.  Compare the inner cities of the US today to the same areas in the 1920s/30s.  It's not difficult to see how far we've fallen, and economics are not the reason.

124 And Lindsay Lohan is in it!!!!

125 And just for the record, (Alamo) I know all about your rotten past.  Keep flaming me and I'll post it for all the morons to read.

What? He had Pee-Wee Herman's bike held hostage in his basement?

126 "Okay, because it's bullshit and it makes us look bad.
Posted by: AD at September 04, 2010 08:35 PM "

Martin Luther King wasn't afraid of the N-word. He was not cowed into silence by it. Geert Wilder isn't afraid of the I-word [Islamophobe]. He is not cowed into silence by it. Why are so many "conservative"/"patriots in their own minds" bloggers afraid of the B-word?

Profiles in Courage? Not in the least.

127 Let's face it: pretty much ALL Latin America sucks mightily, all a bunch of squalid little shitholes the inhabitants eagerly scurry out of whenever humanly possible. (With the possible exception of Cost Rica, I suppose). But oddly enough - if the United States tried, say, to annex Mexico, the inhabitants would take time out from sneaking across our border to fight us to the bitter end. Try making sense of that!

128 Rodriguez would have been better off making a film about a prolific Mexican serial rapist who reeks revenge on the white man. Starring Salma Hayak and Penelope Cruise as her faithful companion in raping white men. Like me. Over and over again.

129 (quiet-  the bike is hidden under a pile of hobo bones and empty val-u-rite bottles.....)

130 And Lindsay Lohan is in it!!!! Posted by: steevy

So it Michelle Rodriguez, the most obnoxious bint ever.

Her character's death in Lost was the single greatest episode ... evah!

131
Do we have a pool set up yet for the first gringo who gets "macheteed" in the parking lot of a movie theater?

132 132 And Lindsay Lohan is in it!!!! Posted by: steevy at September 04, 2010 08:43 PM (Rkefy) Sucking on a pistol! A Magnum, yet!! Size DOES matter, after all!!!

133 Why are so many "conservative"/"patriots in their own minds" bloggers afraid of the B-word?

Profiles in Courage? Not in the least.

Posted by: FeralCat at September 04, 2010 08:45 PM (NE5O6)

Again, I think you're missing the "it's bullshit" part (of course, if you're a moby, maybe not).

134 O/T: What is this Dem firewall Drudge is speaking of?

135 141 Do we have a pool set up yet for the first gringo who gets "macheteed" in the parking lot of a movie theater? Posted by: RarestRX at September 04, 2010 08:47 PM (rmNST) You mean by a Bitter Clinger?

136 These disloyal criminal birthers are going to drive us all nuts! This whole matter has already been put to rest! Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod have both given their highest personal assurance that they have seen the Divine OneÂ’s actual long form Certification of Live Immaculate Conception and in Holy Script! Rahm Emanuel saw it from one hospital and David Axelrod saw it from another one! Twice the absolute incontrovertible proof! I donÂ’t know what more any sane person could possibly want! Besides the Queen of Hearts says that she thinks he has cute ears and looks so sexy in his mom jeans so that would settle the matter right there anyway.

Members of the jury, loyal Ace of Spades subjects and the honorable Mr. Ace, the prisoners at the bar and various other assorted and sundry miscreant John Does, who all have bench warrants outstanding, all stand accused of engaging in a vile and mass conspiracy of trying to goad Barack Obama, our Dear Leader with the Certification of Live Immaculate Conception from no less than two locations, and at lest two parents of unquestionable American loyalties and citizenship, into a game of COLB, thereby and with malice of forethought, molesting, tormenting, and otherwise annoying our beloved Dear Leader and all his loyal subjects.  Verdict first, evidence later. Off with their heads!

137 Posted by: Cheshire Cat at September 04, 2010 08:51 PM (NE5O6)

Changing your nick doesn't change your IP hash, Lithium Boi...

138 I like the cut of Director Rodriquez's jib.

Me too.......

139

81  ah, my favorite salma scene

my wife swears she will have that body when she turns fifty....i love my life!!

140 144 O/T: What is this Dem firewall Drudge is speaking of?

I've been wandering myself-  It's been up on Drudge for hours with no story.  Sounds Scary!!!!!

141 Posted by: Cheshire Cat at September 04, 2010 08:51 PM (NE5O6)

He was listed in a Hawaiian newspaper at the time as being born there.

Did they conspire in 1961 to fake this, knowing of course that he'd one day be President? (If so, why would they bother having him be born in Kenya instead of Hawaii?)

142 @151: yeah, but who's body does she have now?

143 It's not everyday we talk about sex scenes between young, impressionable nuns and their Mother Superior-position....

Well, maybe not, but it's almost everyday.

144 Movies have to be about something and I don't really give a shit if it is some Hollywood jackoff politics because it's always going to be something with these people.  I kick the political bullshit message to the curb and enjoy the show. 

145

Please join me in exploring these peculiarities. Perhaps we can be invited on the Alex Jones show. We may even get Leonard Nimoy out of retirement!

Posted by: A Concerned Citizen

Nooo! Don't talk to him. He's a paid plant from the Freemasons!!!

Stay away from him. He might try to sign you up for Est lessons!

146 Its kind of hilarious, liberalism is so filled with self-hate and nihilism. Movies like this place strong on that theme, oh America is evil we deserve to be destroyed for our evil racism. Ironically, if you see Danny Trejo in an interview, the guy loves America and working in films.

147 Let's face it: pretty much ALL Latin America sucks mightily, all a bunch of squalid little shitholes the inhabitants eagerly scurry out of whenever humanly possible. 

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 04, 2010 08:46 PM (tJjm/)

Actually they're not ALL that horrible.  And remember - not everybody in those countries is an economic loser.  Those losers are a major portion of the ones who creep in here to work for the price of some beans and rice.  Personally I hope to retire in the Caribbean one day.  At least in the Latin countries you're not surrounded by fucking do-gooders who spout PC bullshit all day long and ruin your life/career for an off-color remark or a politically insensitive comment.  Nor do they all confiscate all your wealth for welfare - cuz there's no welfare.  America becomes less free every damn day thanks to unchecked do-gooderism/Leftism/multi-culti.  Soon the only free lands will be those that are too poor for the rich Libtards to bother with.

148

155  latin mixed with something

and i'm pretty sure she hasn't had surgery

when salma and i have many many babies, they will be hotties

149

154  yeah, but who's body does she have now?

ha, she has MINE!  poor thing, and she wonderswhy i won't let her get lasiks

150 Yes! Stanley Dunham was that. fucking. brilliant! Of course, she was aided by every official to work in HI government in the past century (including the territorial days!).


Damnit, they've been planning this ever since they had that queen...whatshername [pretend I googled it].

We should have known.  We should have known.

151 Salma's nice. Really private person, which is why you guys haven't heard about us. We keep it on the downlow.

152

162  Also that dastardly Linda Lingle (R)

i've met her.....an excellent lady in all ways

just don't let her give a speech, it'll go on forever and she will put you to sleep

153 O/T: What is this Dem firewall Drudge is speaking of?

I would think it's a plan to spend their campaign cash. They can't defend all the vulnerable seats so they are going to pick out just enough to keep the majority. It's tacit acknowledgment that they are going to lose at least 30 seats. I'm sure the 30 who don't make the cut will be oh so grateful.

154

164  liliokalini, can't help it

165  oh no, she would never cheat on me!!

155 .At least in the Latin countries you're not surrounded by fucking do-gooders who spout PC bullshit all day long and ruin your life/career for an off-color remark or a politically insensitive comment. Good point. The cold-blooded eagerness with which Liberals demand that people lose their jobs - and their livelihoods and have their personal lives ruined, including perhaps their children's futures - is disgusting and utterly contemptible. Personally, I think people that call for others to lose their jobs should be macheted... but that's just me.

156 Salma must have good genes. You don't see many people who loko that good that late in life.

Posted by: Chris in Va at September 04, 2010 08:56 PM (uCjoj)

Helps not to go birthing out a bunch of yard apes.  Nothing destroys a woman's body faster.

157

and one way to tell that salma is the hawt...

she married a Billionaire

158 Salma is a great conversationalist, though it can be hard to understand her sometimes, with my dick in her mouth.

159 Now that's just mean.

We are supposed to be the group that encourages dreams, not the one who crushes them.

How do I keep my internet genius / tough guy / Salma Hayek-boyfriend dreams going with Captain Cockblocker and the Blue-Ball Express raining on my parade?

160

okay, she's spanish (mom) and lebanese (dad), that explains it, great mix

161 176 okay, she's spanish (mom) and lebanese (dad), that explains it, great mix Posted by: navycopjoe at September 04, 2010 09:09 PM (gg4j2) Sort of like a Black Lab and Golden Retriever!

162

okay, she's spanish (mom) and lebanese (dad), that explains it, great mix

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 04, 2010 09:09 PM (gg4j2)

Shakira is like that, too, right?  I dunno her politics (I assume they suck) but I would crawl over broken glass to know that woman carnally.

163

OK just in off the porch where Hubby is smokin' a cuban. I finished off 6 oz of Jack spiked with kalua. I read a little up thread and

1. Dem's firewall is a semantic ruse to worry republicans. It likely consists of either flaming skulls in pudding bowls or a money dump into key states.

2. Obama was born in Hawaii but his father is unknown and Stanley has actually been the one to foist this ruse upon us. She either didn't know who the father was or she wanted it to be the foreign communist instead of the more pedestrian bus driver or something. Dreams of my father would have been bull and the communists taking such an interest in her boy would have been crap.

 

164 Posted by: Reactionary at September 04, 2010 09:06 PM (4nbyM)

FOAD Asshile.

165 I'm starting to appreciate the girl that plays Ziva David on NCIS more and more - not obviously outrageously beautiful at first glance... but there's something about her.

166

The only real-world body count in recent memory comparable to the ones in this movie would be the mass murders south of the border - like for example the 75 or so wannabe illegal immigrants killed on a ranch south of the Texas border a  week ago. They were Guatamalans and Salvadoreans I believe - not Mexicans.

28,000 killed in nothern Mexico by drug gangs since 2006.  The world of insane violence in this movie actually exists, but it is being inflicted by Mexicans inside their own borders.

I would guess that the asswipes who made this movie help finance the drug cartels every day by paying large sums of money for white powder they sniff up their noses - for the art, don't you know.

167

175  How do I keep my internet genius / tough guy / Salma Hayek-boyfriend dreams going with Captain Cockblocker and the Blue-Ball Express raining on my parade?

you can start by helping me clean up all this soda i just spewed out all over my laptop

173  thats her plan but it looks like akaka wil be the first shot for her

thats why ed case dropped out, he was promised the next senator shot

168

when salma and i  Ed have many many babies, they will be hotties

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 04, 2010 08:59 PM (gg4j2)

Fixed that for you.  But we are alway willing to consider you as a God-father of sorts.

Or an ugly but amusing uncle.

Your choice.

 

169 28,000 killed in nothern Mexico by drug gangs since 2006. How can this be so? I haven't seen anyone wearing "Save Mexico" T-shirts at Starbucks...

170 Did anyone ever consider that Stanley may have wanted to "trap" Barak sr. and it didn't work because he was 1. already married, 2. muslim, 3. couldn't give a shit?

171

184  lets go for the godfather thingie

my nieces and nephew already got the wierd ugly uncle thing from me...but at least i go home

172

Posted by: Rocks at September 04, 2010 09:12 PM (ivAmM)

What, hit too close to home?  It's not my fault your hips never went back to normal.

173 I'm watching The Expendables on the internet. It's pretty good. What was the big controversy over it? That it is, gasp, entertaining?!!!1!!!1!!

174 190 "Jingoistic"

175

What, hit too close to home?  It's not my fault your hips never went back to normal.

Posted by: Reactionary at September 04, 2010 09:18 PM (4nbyM)

If you could read at more than 3 words a minute you would have already seen my post which states I'm a white man. Dickweed.

176

He was listed in a Hawaiian newspaper at the time as being born there.

Did they conspire in 1961 to fake this, knowing of course that he'd one day be President? (If so, why would they bother having him be born in Kenya instead of Hawaii?)

No..more likely her mother who was a bank VP and ran in fairly sophisticated circles was counseled to have the birth announcement placed in the papers in order to try to establish native birth.

HI was a very transient place back then. They even had a law on the books where an individual could get a state birth certificate despite being born outside the country.

Placing the birth notice would help a great deal in any custody battle where her grandson was born to an itinerant polygamist father and her 18 year old girl in Kenya.

The birth announcements were not automatically placed in the papers by the hospital or any governemental organization. It was done by the families.

There is no record of Jug Ears being born in any hospital in HI...yet there are for others born on the same day as his supposed birth.

Why is that?

177 191 Mexico is a failed narco state. We will probably end up imposing democracy by force of arms there. Posted by: toby928 at September 04, 2010 09:20 PM (S5YRY) Much to the outrage of Hollyweird liberals. And don't forget that the local population will take time out from killing each other to wage a guerilla war against the gringos.

178 I haven't seen anyone wearing "Save Mexico" T-shirts at Starbucks...

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 04, 2010 09:15 PM (tJjm/)

Libtards don't give a crap about people suffering/dying in other countries unless they can blame the US or capitalism for the problem. 

179 "No..more likely her mother who was a bank VP and ran in fairly sophisticated circles was counseled to have the birth announcement placed in the papers in order to try to establish native birth."

Okay, so say she's really sophisticated in this area...

Why not just have him born in Hawaii?

180 "Did they conspire in 1961 to fake this, knowing of course that he'd one day be President? "

Barack Hussien Obama's Birth Certificate has never been released. Only a "Certification", shown on DailyKos, which lists neither hospital, nor Doctor and isn't worth any more than a Medical Diploma you could get on the internet. Obama has gone to great lengths to keep his actual Birth Certificate from seeing the light of day, including at the Lakin Court Martial.where the army judge said it can not be revealed..

181 198 "No..more likely her mother who was a bank VP and ran in fairly sophisticated circles was counseled to have the birth announcement placed in the papers in order to try to establish native birth." On the off-chance he mighty run for President one day?

182 186 28,000 killed in nothern Mexico by drug gangs since 2006.

How can this be so?

I haven't seen anyone wearing "Save Mexico" T-shirts at Starbucks...

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 04, 2010 09:15 PM (tJjm/)

Murders in countries without a US military presence are just expressions of a vibrant culture, cracker.

183 1.  The movie is a grindhouse splatter flick.  Whatever political elements are involved are highly caricatured and not really worth examining seriously.

2.  See 1.

3.  Okay, so you ignored both 1 and 2.  Prepare to get spoilered.  (not that it matters.  The movie is about tits and explosions and beheadings, not about open borders/amnesty, except to the extent that screenwriters can't avoid shitting in their own soup when they become beholden to an ideology.)  

The villains are cardboard cutouts of Snidely Whiplash, except dressed up to vaguely resemble inbred hilljack minutemen who casually shoot pregnant mexicans to avoid having them drop anchor babies in US soil.  Why shoot them instead of just pushing them back across the border?  To show how dastardly they are of course, so when they get their gruesome death later in the film, it's that much more satisfying.  There's no effort to create real people who represent the anti-illegal immigration position, and with good reason. 

If the people who opposed illegal immigration made any sense at all, bore even a slight resemblance to realistic human beings, the ideas driving the "good guys" in the film are exposed as making no fucking sense at all, and no amount of willing suspension of disbelief can fix that.

The good guys want illegal immigration legalized, or at least oppose rigid enforcement.  Most of the characters spout off about how it is unjust to enforce it, or speak of fairness -- nice rabble rousing talk, but with no specifics.  Where is the injustice?  The movie is largely silent on why it is unjust to enforce the border.  Coming up with compelling reasons for large political movements is hard.  Putting stunt tits for Lindsey Lohan in a movie is easy.

The only character who even attempts to give a reason why illegals should be allowed to stay says that we shouldn't secure the border because illegals are escaping their own private hell.  Okay, that's something at least.  A strong humanitarian argument for a sanctuary state. 

But, if the illegals are coming to America for sanctuary from a violent, chaotic country, wouldn't it make sense for them to want as much enforcement of that border as possible to keep the violence and chaos locked away from them and their families?  So the bad guys who want to secure the border would be doing those already here a grand favor by keeping the violence out, right?  But that means that the bad guys were doing something that would result in a good thing, and we can't have that if we want to get our guignol on later. 

So the line about the illegals escaping a private hell is really there as a throwaway.  It's a paean to a reason for why the bad guys are bad and the good guys are good.  The fact that it's a paper thin reason holding up an elephant of faulty logic isn't meant to be taken seriously, because, did I mention Lindsey Lohan stunt tits?

And the grand political message of the movie is, "Support amnesty for illegals, because otherwise they will come and shoot you in the fucking face with a machine gun on a motorcycle, and doesn't that sound awesome?"

4.  That said, the movie is fun and silly and has some really great moments.  The political stuff is bullshit and distracting, probably fatally so if you're not into really good gore and you don't like boobies.  But that's not exactly the predisposition of this audience.  Wait until netflix.

184 Posted by: KentAllard at September 04, 2010 09:23 PM (93iyR) Yes, but the Secretary of State of Hawaii issued a public statement that she physically saw the actual birth certificate and that it shows he was born in Hawaii. Now, if you're going to argue that even that is part of some broad conspiracy, consider this: how hard, really, would it be for the Secretary of State of Hawaii to falsify an Obama birth certificate?

185 On the off-chance he mighty run for President one day?

That's some pretty serious future-time-orientation for a girl who's such an easy lay.

186 192 Ah, you say that like it is a bad thing. LOL

187 Saying someone has an incentive to make a birth look as uncontroversial as possible only because of future Presidential ambition is stupid beyond repair.

188 Rodriguez perplexes me. The guy SHOULD be a conservative or at least a libertarian, based on his early history. Scratching together every penny, including volunteering to undergo experimental drug testing in order to make the money for your first film? Moxie. The dude loves to make films. LOVES to make films. Watching his DVD extras is almost more fun than watching the films themselves. Personally, I blame Tarantino and Rose McGowan for ruining the man as a filmmaker. He's been trying to out-Tarantino Tarantino is referencing old B-movies for awhile now. As for McGowan, screwing the director on the set of Planet Terror, when his wife is the producer is the height of unprofessional conduct. Nasty episode, broke up his marriage, stopped production on the film for weeks.

189

Lakin Court Martial.where the army judge said it can not be revealed..

This is fascinating. Why would an army judge and a republican governor (?) both defend his "right" not to show the birth certificate unless there was something on it that would cause some sort of constitutional or foreign crisis OR both of them were "gotten to"  by the chicago machine--which is far more likely.

190 @203: "Putting stunt tits for Lindsey Lohan in a movie is easy." I'm intrigued by your concept, and wish to subscribe to your newsletter!

191 Barack Hussien Obama's Birth Certificate has never been released. Only a "Certification", shown on DailyKos, which lists neither hospital, nor Doctor and isn't worth any more than a Medical Diploma you could get on the internet. Obama has gone to great lengths to keep his actual Birth Certificate from seeing the light of day, including at the Lakin Court Martial.where the army judge said it can not be revealed..

Yeah, everybody here knows that.  There's probably something embarrassing on it.

There is, however, evidence he was born in Hawaii (evidence that was pretty unlikely to be faked) and not to the contrary.

192 205 "On the off-chance he mighty run for President one day?" That's some pretty serious future-time-orientation for a girl who's such an easy lay. Posted by: Ace's liver at September 04, 2010 09:26 PM (LtIsn) My suspicion is that the REAL reason Barry is reluctant to release the Certificate is that it will show that the black photographer that took the notorious nude layout of Mama Barak decided it was a good opportunity to give her a good stretch, IYKWIMAIKTYD.

193 Why is it when I get really drunk, I can't find my oven mitts the next day? Also, Fuck Rodriguez.

194 206 192 Ah, you say that like it is a bad thing. LOL

Posted by: Moi at September 04, 2010 09:26 PM (Ez4Ql)

No, that's what the media is saying. I'm all for american "jingoism" . I'm for letting stallone and his crew loose on the whole world.

195 Is Obama's mother deceased?...I've never seen any current info about her?...

196 167

I would think it's a plan to spend their campaign cash. They can't defend all the vulnerable seats so they are going to pick out just enough to keep the majority. It's tacit acknowledgment that they are going to lose at least 30 seats. I'm sure the 30 who don't make the cut will be oh so grateful.

Posted by: Rocks at September 04, 2010 09:04 PM (ivAmM)

Oh ok. That makes me feel a little bit better. Thanks.

197 I'm big on good action movies and have enjoyed Rodriguez in earlier roles. Alba would make my top ten list of preferred afterlife rewards. But no way am I spending a penny on this racist anti-American piece of crap. The stench from the trailer is revealing enough.

198 215 Why is it when I get really drunk, I can't find my oven mitts the next day?

Also, Fuck Rodriguez.

Posted by: Old grizzled gym coach at September 04, 2010 09:30 PM (QBQcg)

Ask Joanie.  She'll hook you up.

199 217 Is Obama's mother deceased?...I've never seen any current info about her?...

Dead. Venereal disease I believe.

200 How come every movie I think I might want to see turns out to be anti-American?

201 221 Whatever it was, Barak couldn't be bothered to help her with her insurance issues.

202

Dead. Venereal disease I believe.

 

Really?...sheesh...

203 @221: The PC term is "STD," for Sexually Transmitted Disease. I prefer to say, She dropped dead of the Clap. But then, I'm insensitive that way.

204

If you could read at more than 3 words a minute you would have already seen my post which states I'm a white man. Dickweed.

Posted by: Rocks at September 04, 2010 09:20 PM (ivAmM)

Well, people can say anything about themselves on the net.  Frankly, it's odd for a male to express such womanishly strong emotions over a minor, offhand child-bearing related comment. 

205 222 Because they're all anti-american? See the expendables and call it a year.

206 224

Dead. Venereal disease I believe.

 

Really?...sheesh...

I keed I keed.

She is dead.

207 "
Yes, but the Secretary of State of Hawaii issued a public statement that she physically saw the actual birth certificate and that it shows he was born in Hawaii.

  Posted by: CoolCzech at September 04, 2010 09:26 PM"

I would prefer to have it made public, which Obama could do with a word, rather than take her word for it. As RR said, "Trust but verify". Besides, I belive that she backtracked from her initial wording/claim anyway.

208 There is, however, evidence he was born in Hawaii (evidence that was pretty unlikely to be faked) and not to the contrary.

Posted by: AD at September 04, 2010 09:29 PM

I would bet that it doesn't list Barack Obama Sr as little Barrys father

209

President Obama whipped out his Sheffield butter knife
and subdued the evil crumpet, and red jelly covered the
walls of the WH breakfast nook.  Then, and only then,
did he stride to his office.......to face the titans of global
infamy. And you would deny him your fealty?  Varlet!

 

 

 

210

There is, however, evidence he was born in Hawaii

Such as?? Seriously..what eveidence is there?

211 Completely O/T and my apologies if it's been discussed, (but Fareed Zakasshole has an article up at Newsweek that say it's clear we overreacted after 9/11.

I had to get drunk. And I seldom drink.

212 HRH wants to go see "Expendables" just because the SEIU wants it boycotted....

Hollywood makes shit for movies these days.

Gran Torino was the last thing released i was interested in going to see.

213 #219 -- You're a moron! That wasn't Rodgriguez you enjoyed in earlier roles but Danny Trejo. Dumbass. Well, I sure told him eh?

214

I keed I keed.

She is dead.

I kinda thought you were kidding but just walked into it anyway just to get you to say you were kidding

What did she die of?...kind of young.  Nobody seems to be very curious about it.

215 "My suspicion is that the REAL reason Barry is reluctant to release the Certificate is that it will show that the black photographer that took the notorious nude layout of Mama Barak decided it was a good opportunity to give her a good stretch, IYKWIMAIKTYD. Posted by: CoolCzech at September 04, 2010 09:30 PM"

If you want to take that route, then my theory is that his real father is Joe Isuzu.

216 some kind of cancer

217 but Fareed Zakasshole has an article up at Newsweek that say it's clear we overreacted after 9/11. The fact that on 9/12 there was no nation on earth made primarily of molten glass is pretty damning evidence against his argument.

218 Stanley didn't seem to have any standards other than "radical" and foreign

219

I would bet that it doesn't list Barack Obama Sr as little Barrys father

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 04, 2010 09:37 PM (yQWNf)

Bingo...We have a winner!

Father...Stanley Dunham?

220

Completely O/T and my apologies if it's been discussed, (but Fareed Zakasshole has an article up at Newsweek that say it's clear we overreacted after 9/11.

 

I think it would have been more apropriate to nuke Saudi Arabia, personally.

221 @229: I'm not denying Obama is not an utter tool for not releasing the certificate. But consider: 1. His Mom was a US citizen, so he would be a citizen at birth, anyway,,, regardless where he was born. 2. IF he wasn't born a citizen, he would not be able to get a US passport, EVER, without being naturalized. Hadn't he traveled outside the US before becoming President? Wouldn't his naturalization be a matter of public record? 3. I doubt that at this point - seeing he is already IN office - that he would be turned out of office over the issue. Just as a practical matter... I just doubt it would happen. 4. IF it happened... Joe Biden would be President, and the Birthers would be to blame. Do you want that on your conscience?

222 Rodriguez and his Hollywood filk take a dump on the country and the people that provide them with a living few of us can imagine. I'm totally unsurprised by this.

223 Why is it when I get really drunk, I can't find my oven mitts the next day?

CWI?  (Cooking While Intoxicated?)

224

Father...Stanley Dunham?

Uh, Barry's a little dark for that.

225

Yes, but the Secretary of State of Hawaii issued a public statement that she physically saw the actual birth certificate and that it shows he was born in Hawaii.

  Posted by: CoolCzech at September 04, 2010 09:26 PM

Not true

226 Believe she died of Ovarian cancer or some such thing, cursing the dastardly insurance company that she allegedly couldn't afford to pay, despite being a PhD, and the daughter of a bank Vice President in one of the wealthiest cities in the country.

227 251 She sent a staffer? IIRC

228

The Saudis are a curious lot. The Royal Family seems genuinely pro-western, but the rest of the government (which is all Sharia I believe) is...well...yeah.

 

The Royal Family in Britain has very little control over what goes on in their country as well...

229

Well, people can say anything about themselves on the net.  Frankly, it's odd for a male to express such womanishly strong emotions over a minor, offhand child-bearing related comment. 

Posted by: Reactionary at September 04, 2010 09:34 PM (4nbyM)

Eat shit ya racist bastard. If it had been Scarlett Johansson instead of Salma Hayek you wouldn't have used that term.

230

I've always held that sheriff joe would be better for just comic value BUT after Barky's bike pic, I'm not so sure.

231 "
1. His Mom was a US citizen, so he would be a citizen at birth, anyway,,, regardless where he was born."

One must be a NATURAL BORN citizen to be POTUS eligible.

232

Believe she died of Ovarian cancer or some such thing, cursing the dastardly insurance company that she allegedly couldn't afford to pay, despite being a PhD, and the daughter of a bank Vice President in one of the wealthiest cities in the country.

 

Hippy-ism truly is a disease.

233 CWI? (Cooking While Intoxicated?) Posted by: EZB at September 04, 2010 09:42 PM (fa9yq) No. I don't eat when I drink. It is weird because it happens almost everytime I get drunk. As for Obama not releasing his BC. He doesn't have to. He is better than us, the rules don't apply to him.

234 The fact that on 9/12 there was no nation on earth made primarily of molten glass is pretty damning evidence against his argument.


Amen to that. I'd have given the Israelis a month to build bomb shelters, then nuked the entire fucking landmass from Afghanistan  to Egypt, and sunk Indonesia just for good measure.

235

1. His Mom was a US citizen, so he would be a citizen at birth, anyway,,, regardless where he was born.

If he wre born outside the US, he would not be a citizen. The law states that the mother would have had to have lived in the US for 10 years...five of those after the age of 14 prior to the bith. She was only 18

would not be able to get a US passport, EVER, without being naturalized. Hadn't he traveled outside the US before becoming President? Wouldn't his naturalization be a matter of public record?

Not true. He could have gotten a passport per this 1982 law

Hawaii state law (Hawaii Revised Statutes S. 338-17. allows children who are born outside Hawaii to obtain valid Hawaiian birth certificates, depending on the residency of their parents. This law isn't restricted to those born in the other 49 states; a child could be born in a foreign country and still get a valid HI birth certificate.

 

236 "but I might watch it again just for fun.

Posted by: BlameCandida at September 04, 2010 07:40 PM (GPU2m)"

And 'cuz you think his sister's hot.

237

Dunno why but she's just never done anything for me.

 

Posted by: Chris in Va at September 04, 2010 09:47 PM (uCjoj)

Me either. Nice but no biggie.

238 @ 208 As for McGowan, screwing the director on the set of Planet Terror, when his wife is the producer is the height of unprofessional conduct.

True. McGowan should be screwing ME.

239 The Saudis are a curious lot. The Royal Family seems genuinely pro-western, but the rest of the government (which is all Sharia I believe) is...well...yeah.

Easy--- they get all the perks of a Western lifestyle, right down to western vices (Why do you think Bahrain and Dubai exist?)  and the peons under them have to deal with shariah law--- Feeds the Mecca and Medina best...its a win win.  Sound familiar?

240 Today was one for the optimists. I rode to pick up my carefully prepared buffalo wings, and watched as two easily id'd as young arab youth (a boy and girl) frolicking nearby. We are hearing about Muslims demanding them most stringent punishment for one of their's claiming subservience to islam over the US Constitution, yeah there are glimmers that get a person hopeful. Freedom is irresistible. We can trash it and punk it only so long. Eventually we'll get back to loving it.

241

Such as?? Seriously..what eveidence is there?

Posted by: beedubya at September 04, 2010 09:37 PM (AnTyA)

Here Link

242 I would bet that it doesn't list Barack Obama Sr as little Barrys father

My theory (pure blind speculation on my part) is that it could either already lists his parents as being separated (and, of course, there was an old way of defining kids on birth certificates who weren't born to married couples) or it has something to do with how his ethnicity is listed.

243 O/T:  "A 7 Million Increase In US Population Results In A Labor Force... Decline? Why The US Has Really Lost 11.2 Million Jobs This Recession"

244

Amen to that. I'd have given the Israelis a month to build bomb shelters, then nuked the entire fucking landmass from Afghanistan  to Egypt, and sunk Indonesia just for good measure.

 

I like the cut of your jib, do you have a newsletter I could subscribe to?

245 I should say the arab youths were thoroughly western dressed without a hijab in sight. There's a fight going on within Islam, one side wants to reform or reject in favor of christianity, the other wants anarchy to precede the arrival of the 13th monkey.

246

Here's my theory:  Barack is not Stanley Ann's son, he's her half-brother.  See, her mother, being a typical white person, was traumatized about having been knocked up by a black guy, so she took the fall.

247 The Saudis are royals in the old fashioned sense of the word. They are not subject to any law or rule except one given by a higher ranking royal. Rules for the people are supposed to be strict because they are just people after all.

248

Father...Stanley Dunham?

Uh, Barry's a little dark for that.

Posted by: dagny at September 04, 2010 09:42 PM (4rB9O)

Not if his mother was one of the black women he was fond of.

Did you ever notice how Ann Dunham never displayed a bond with him

249

Such as?? Seriously..what eveidence is there?Posted by: beedubya at September 04, 2010 09:37 PM (AnTyA)

Here Link

Posted by: AD at September 04, 2010 09:49 PM (8DYcd)

I was serious. What does that link have to do with anything

 

250 Republicans hate Latinos.

251 "If he wre born outside the US, he would not be a citizen. The law states that the mother would have had to have lived in the US for 10 years...five of those after the age of 14 prior to the bith. She was only 18" Well gee whiz, the whole point of the "five years after the age of 14" is meant to ensure she lived at least 5 years of her entire post-age 14 years in America. That couldn't be possible is her ENTIRE post-age14 LIFE was less than 5 years. There's not a judge in the country that wouldn't say that was a technicality that under the situation obviously doesn't apply to a girl under the age of 19.

252

Republicans hate Latinos

y Latinas

253 would not be able to get a US passport, EVER, without being naturalized. Hadn't he traveled outside the US before becoming President? Wouldn't his naturalization be a matter of public record?

Not true. He could have gotten a passport per this 1982 law

The problem with that is that Obama traveled outside the U.S. before 1982.

254 IllTemperedCur: Any woman who has been with Marilyn Manson is "tainted" in my book. She's got the taint!

255 Snopes? seriously? Why does he not show it? C'mon.

256 Republicans hate Latinos y Latinas But we luuuuurvs us some guacamole!

257 Yea, them damn Bushs especially hate Latinos, not sure why Jeb married one and many of the rest of them are fluent in Spanish. Must be another vast Right Wing Conspiracy of some sort.

258 Maybe Doc Brown can help us.

259 Children used to be put on their mother's passport.

260

uggggh, if i may

the sec. of records, who is the ONLY person by law who is allowed to go down and look at the original copy of it said publicly that yes, he was born in hawaii at kapiolani medical center for women and children

its moot point anyway since we now have a law which basically says they will not produce it for any lawsuit or court action

261 N0t true Dolores. We want you to retake control of mexico and CA. We want the new american border to be the thin strip that separates Panama (Teddy Roosevelt's creation) and the SA. We will eventually annex it all the way to the canal. As it should be. Mexicans trust anglos more than latins. Castillians will be routed and sent scurrying to Texas and Espana before too much longer.

262 Maybe Doc Brown can help us.

He's a white man so...yes he can

263 290 Republicans hate Latinos y Latinas Yeah, but Cantinas are OK by us, so all's copacetic, right?

264

"But we luuuuurvs us some guacamole!"

Long as its fresh.

265 But tequila is teh debil.

266 and sunk Indonesia just for good measure.
Posted by: MissTammy

No bombs needed. All you need to do is have a few Marines, and the islands will just tip over.

267 The point is why doesn't he produce it?

268 Putas are OK, too. As long as its fresh.

269 Here Link

Posted by: AD at September 04, 2010 09:49 PM (8DYcd)

I was serious. What does that link have to do with anything

Posted by: beedubya at September 04, 2010 09:54 PM (AnTyA)

You said "what evidence."  I provided it to you.  If you want to argue over it, feel free.  If you want don't, I guess ignoring it will work.

270

uggggh, if i may

the sec. of records, who is the ONLY person by law who is allowed to go down and look at the original copy of it said publicly that yes, he was born in hawaii at kapiolani medical center for women and children

Again...this is just not true

271 That stanley ann was something huh?

272 One of the most common Mexican insults here in SoCal... "Try the carnitas, gringo"

273 That stanley ann was something huh?

Posted by: dagny at September 04, 2010 10:03 PM (4rB9O)

Wanna trade pix?

274 301 The point is why doesn't he produce it?

Posted by: dagny at September 04, 2010 10:01 PM (4rB9O)

Easy, there's something embarrassing on it.

275 "Try the carnitas, gringo huero"

FIFY

276

"305 That stanley ann was something huh?"

Yeah.  Bet she never thought her little brother would grow up to be President of the United States.

277 From http://www.kitv.com/r/17860890/detail.html "There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-1 prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record," DOH Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said. Fukino said she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate. "Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said. Fukino said that no state official, including Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama's certificate be handled differently from any other.

278 You said "what evidence."  I provided it to you.  If you want to argue over it, feel free.  If you want don't, I guess ignoring it will work.

Posted by: AD at September 04, 2010 10:02 PM (8DYcd)

Again...that is not his birth certificate. HI state law allows for individuals to get a HI birth certificate despite not being born there or even in the country.

What you have linked to is not the original long form

279 You posted that his "certification of live birth was not a forgery" article from Snopes. That's not evidence and no one cares about that they want to see the actual birth certificate which he is hiding for some reason. Why not cite Dan Rather or Whoopi Goldberg? Citing an opinion piece isn't evidence.

280 Easy, there's something embarrassing on it. Posted by: AD at September 04, 2010 10:04 PM (8DYcd) I tend to agree. IMO, it probably shows that Obama, Sr. is NOT Barry's name, and that the whole "Obama" affectation is a steaming pile of Lefty bullshit. Mommy was most likely a tramp that spread for more than just the camera when she had the nudy shots done.

281 Hey! Danny Trejo was in the movie Heat and that was one damn fine movie!

282 Err, I meant, Obama, Sr. is likely not really Bambi's dad.

283 oh my fucking lord
are we back to birtherism?

284 I'm a Midnight Run kinda guy. It's in my top 5. Same with chorizo and eggs. Hate the game not the player.

285 "Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said.
Fukino said that no state official, including Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama's certificate be handled differently from any other.

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 04, 2010 10:05 PM (tJjm/)

And???

All atht says is Fukino has seen the birth certificate.

So what? Where does he say that it says Jug Ears was born in HI??

286 Again...that is not his birth certificate. HI state law allows for individuals to get a HI birth certificate despite not being born there or even in the country.

I'm not citing the original long form (at least that's not the chief thing I care about).

Read the link.

287 Or, of course... it could be it shows "Muslim" as his religion. Who knows?

288 We need an ONT thread. 

289

I have it on good authority that Lindsay Lohan's tits do all their own stunts.

290 "o not have a tangible interest in the vital record," DOH Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said. " No,no tangible interest at all,the guy was just running for president.

291 So what? Where does he say that it says Jug Ears was born in HI?? Posted by: beedubya at September 04, 2010 10:08 PM (AnTyA) Now you're really special pleading. I wasn't born in the USA, and my birth certificate is not file with any state. I guess it is with the Feds, for my immigration status purposes and my naturalization. But that is it.

292 You posted that his "certification of live birth was not a forgery" article from Snopes. That's not evidence and no one cares about that they want to see the actual birth certificate which he is hiding for some reason.

Look, it goes through a bunch of different pieces of evidence.  It's not my fault if you're not going to read it.

293

Considering that poem Obama wrote about Frank Marshall Davis, I'm definitely thinking there's something embarrassing on his birth certificate.

294

Actually, the original Birth Certificate lists his sex as F.

I've seen the Mom Jeans and the way "he" throws a baseball.

295 Read the link.

Posted by: AD at September 04, 2010 10:08 PM (8DYcd)

OK...I read the link. What point are you trying to make?

296 Aliens? Government conspiracies? The truth is out there.

Obama's birth certificate?  Meh, not so much.

297 The Birth Certificate shows  the sex as "girlie man".

298 Did you ever notice how Ann Dunham never displayed a bond with him

His mother's name was Stanley.  Ann was her middle name.

299 And by the way - my ORIGINAL certificate of birth is in the Czech Republic, not ANYWHERE in the USA. The Secretary of State of Hawaii said they have Barry's ORIGINAL certificate. Only way they would have that would be... if they were the ones that issued it.

300 330 HISTORIC!!Our first black AND transgender president!!

301 So Fukino says they have it. What's on it? When I go to the dmv, I don't get to flash the birth certificate at them and say, see I have it! They actually want to read it.

302 Err, I meant, Obama, Sr. is likely not really Bambi's dad.

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 04, 2010 10:08 PM (tJjm/)

I used to think that, but one of Barry Sr.'s bastards that turned up in China looks remarkably like Teh Won. If Barry Sr.'s not-the-father, then he would've had to have an hitherto unidentified horny travel buddy that constantly followed him around siring children.

303

OK...I read the link. What point are you trying to make?

Posted by: beedubya at September 04, 2010 10:11 PM (AnTyA)

Dude, seriously.  This is reaching Truther levels.

If you want to continue playing dumb (I don't mean that as an insult but in the standard definition of the phrase) I can't stop you.

304 Hey!  I found Obama's birth certificate!

305 The Secretary of State of Hawaii said they have Barry's ORIGINAL certificate. Only way they would have that would be... if they were the ones that issued it.

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 04, 2010 10:11 PM (tJjm/)

Arrrrggghhh

That's the freaking point. We know they have it. The question is why doesn't Jug Ears release it??

306 339 So does the half brother in Kenya.

307 338 So Fukino says they have it. What's on it? When I go to the dmv, I don't get to flash the birth certificate at them and say, see I have it! They actually want to read it. Posted by: dagny at September 04, 2010 10:12 PM (4rB9O) I'm not arguing on that score with anybody. It's a disgrace that Bambi didn't have to produce it, when anyone that goes down to DMV has to. What's really amazing is that the media isn't all over this - doesn't ANYONE wonder what exactly makes Bambi so uncomfortable about releasing it? But that doesn't mean he wasn't born in the USA.

308 HISTORIC!!Our first black AND transgender president!!

actually that would be a relief - because then in the future when a liberal tranny runs for prez and the press slobbers over him/her/it as "a historic candidate", we can say "meh - not so much"

309 That's the freaking point. We know they have it. The question is why doesn't Jug Ears release it?? Posted by: beedubya at September 04, 2010 10:14 PM (AnTyA) the point is, they wouldn't have the ORIGINAL if he was born in Kenya... the original would be in Kenya, see?? Has anyone ever researched to see if any record of Bambi's birth is THERE? Like at the closest town to where his mom would have given birth if that is where she did it?

310 Dude, seriously.  This is reaching Truther levels.

If you want to continue playing dumb (I don't mean that as an insult but in the standard definition of the phrase) I can't stop you.

Posted by: AD at September 04, 2010 10:13 PM (8DYcd

No, dude. You ain't getting off that easy. Put up or shut up.

You keep mentioning vague links to evidence. That's bullshit. What "evidence" are you talking about

311 No really - here's the real birth certificate!

312

I used to think that, but one of Barry Sr.'s bastards that turned up in China looks remarkably like Teh Won. If Barry Sr.'s not-the-father, then he would've had to have an hitherto unidentified horny travel buddy that constantly followed him around siring children.

Posted by: Blackford Oakes at September 04, 2010 10:13 PM (w9BEi)

Given the way he treated his family in Kenya, if was born there, you'd think they'd at least try to blackmail him.

313 What kind of fucked up does a parent have to be to name their baby daughter Stanley?  That is where this problem started.  It would be a funny thing to do to a female foal (horse) or a dog.  Not a daughter.  Bitch probably grew up hating both herself and her parents.

314 Not a surprising review of Machete.  Hell, you got that impression from the flick just by it's trailer, especially the one that started with the "special message" for Arizona.

315 Oh - sorry, those previous ones were fakes.  Here is Obama's real Kenyan birth certificate.

316

Or, if there's isn't anything embarrassing on it, then he's withholding just for the sake of making people wonder. He's trusting in the fact that people fear the unknown.

...which incidentally reminds me of that quote from Rummy.

317 This birther shit is grinding a hole in my skull..........



More bourbon....

318

10:20 and no ONT.   I guess Maet, Gengis or ace have a life other than providing entertainment for the Morons.

 

Nah!

319

We Are Andrew Sullivan's True Inner Conservative, and we have the nudie pictures which prove that Stanley Ann Dunham was never with child, and, further, Henry VIII's personal physician has certified that "Grandma" Dunham was genetically incapable of giving birth to a male child. 

Which leads to only one logical conclusion:

Barack Obama and Stanley Ann Dunham are actually sisters.

Prove us wrong, or accept our iron-clad logic.

320

I know, my evidence is that, wait for it, wait.............."you're a birther!!!!" There.

Not an argument.

321 I never see any movie that doesn't have Danny Glover in it.Why would you?

322 the point is, they wouldn't have the ORIGINAL if he was born in Kenya... the original would be in Kenya, see??

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 04, 2010 10:16 PM (tJjm/)

Arrrrgggghhhhh...goddmammit read!!!

THERE IS A LAW ON THE BOOKS IN HI WHERE AN INDIVIDUAL COULD GET A STATE ISSUED BC DESPITE NOT BEING BORN THERE OR EVEN IN THE COUNTRY!!! IT WOULD LIST THE DEATILS OF THE BIRTH.....INCLUDING WHERE

(Hawaii Revised Statutes S. 338-17. allows children who are born outside Hawaii to obtain valid Hawaiian birth certificates, depending on the residency of their parents. This law isn't restricted to those born in the other 49 states; a child could be born in a foreign country and still get a valid HI birth certificate.

323 I used to think that, but one of Barry Sr.'s bastards that turned up in China looks remarkably like Teh Won. If Barry Sr.'s not-the-father, then he would've had to have an hitherto unidentified horny travel buddy that constantly followed him around siring children. Posted by: Blackford Oakes at September 04, 2010 10:13 PM (w9BEi) Actually, I saw a photo of a baby Obama on his white grandpappy's shoulders at the beach - and damn, if grandpappy doesn't look JUST like him. One theory goes that it's his reported Mom that is really NOT his mom... and that the grandfather is actually the DAD. But maybe the REAL reason Barry doesn't give up the certificate... He likes the way he can paint the right as a bunch of kooks for making such a big deal about his birth certificate.

324 BYU looks like they'll beat the Huskies.  Stiff defense. 

Again, I say we need the ONT. 

325 Or maybe Obama was born in France

326 You keep mentioning vague links to evidence. That's bullshit. What "evidence" are you talking about

The newspaper article, the talk with the obstetrician at the hospital who gave birth to him, or besides Snopes, the fact he traveled around with a passport before the 1982 law.

327 353 Oh - sorry, those previous ones were fakes.  Here is Obama's real Kenyan birth certificate.

Posted by: chemjeff-husker at September 04, 2010 10:17 PM (kUEkq)

Obviously a fake because it's not written in goat's dung. Doesn't smell right.

328 In that NY Post sidebar link - is that Ace spying on girls?

329

Anagrams for "overnight":

invert hog

girth oven

thin grove

Rove thing

voter nigh

the roving

in her govt

 

330 Morons, go see Mao's Last Dancer instead. It's about freedom and how the ChiComs don't have it and we do. It's directed by Bruce Beresford, for crying out loud.

We just saw it and I'm still kinda in tears. Beautiful!

Fuck Rodriguez. Go find out where this MLD is playing and go fucking see it. If you don't, Rodriguez fucking wins.

331 "Republicans hate Latinos."

Just keeping telling yourself that...

332

"Fuck Rodriguez. Go find out where this MLD is playing and go fucking see it. If you don't, Rodriguez fucking wins."

I nominate you as the AoS official film critic.

333

But that doesn't mean he wasn't born in the USA.

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 04, 2010 10:14 PM (tJjm/) )

The point, my friend is...there is a very plausible set of circumstances where it is possible to get HI birth status and not have actual natural born citizenship..

...and heresay through various family members that he was born in Kenya

And he is constitutionally required to be a natural born citizen...yet to ask for proof is crazy??...fuck that

I don't know where the fuck he was born...and he hasn't shown any evidence. He could put this all to rest just by making a fucking phone call and releaseing the records

The point is...why won't he?

334 The newspaper article, the talk with the obstetrician at the hospital who gave birth to him, or besides Snopes, the fact he traveled around with a passport before the 1982 law.

Posted by: AD at September 04, 2010 10:20 PM (8DYcd)

Wait...a woman who claimed to have talked to the now-deceased doctor is evidence??

he had dual citizenship until the age of 18...which country issued the passport?

335 262 That was a chick bike that Obama was riding on no?

Posted by: CDR M at September 04, 2010 09:46 PM (5I8G0)

Hermaphrobike

336 The projected week end box office is $16 million over the four day week-end. Pathetic.

It seems most of America is not in the mood for an open call to a race war.

Robert Rodriguez, Michelle Rodriguez, Cheech Marin, and Jessica Alba are the most honored, wealthy, famous, and with a rabid (White) fanbase that any group of Mexican-Americans could ask for. White America has made them fabulously wealthy and adored.

This is the movie they made.

So no, I don't buy the melting pot. Assimilation is a myth. It doesn't work. Even Robert Rodriguez will chose La Raza Reconquista race-war stuff over the White guys who made him rich, and famous, and adored him. Ditto Cheech Marin, idol of White stoners, or Jessica Alba, Maxim Magazine mascot, or Michelle Rodriguez, White geek guy tough-girl idol.

What the movie reveals is the mindset of the wealthiest, most adored Latinos in Hollywood. An open call for Reconquista. Or Mexifornia, Amexica, whatever. Throw money, fame, adoration at these folks and this is how they reveal themselves.

As a White guy, I didn't cross the border, the border crossed me. Suddenly I'm in Mexico. Only just a bit nicer than Tijuana. I didn't want to live in Mexico (if I had I'd have moved there). But I'm stuck.

337

"The point is...why won't he?"

Beedub, you ever been married?  Did your spouse ever repeatedly do something essentially inconsequential, but insisted, apparently, on persisting in the behavior, just because she knew it irritated the shit out of you? Like maybe she'd go to great lenghths to keep you from seeing her high school yearbook, even though there was nothing especially damning in it.

And that's somebody who supposedly loved you.

Barack doesn't love you.  And he does know that his refusal irritates the shit out of you.

338   And he does know that his refusal irritates the shit out of you.

Posted by: notropis at September 04, 2010 10:36 PM (BOriu)

Actually that's not what irritates me. What does is the that there are those out there who will simply take "Shut up, is why' as the final word..

..oh and the fact that Jug Ears has suck disregard for the constituition

Oh..one more thing...my wife doesn't pull stupid shit like that.

339 Hermaphrobike Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Pro Debate Team, Bacon Raconteur at September 04, 2010 10:33 PM (eCAn3) Does that make Rosie O'Donnel a hermaphrodyke?

340 ""There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-1 prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record,

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 04, 2010 10:05 PM"

I would certainly say the guy being Court Martialed has a "tangible interest" in it as he is facing a dishonorable discharge and posible prison time. Barry would rather let this guy suffer than just give the OK to release his BC. Tells you all you need to know about him right there.

341 John Noble stopped whining about David Letterman long enough to review a movie?

342 O/T:  So now the dems are actively advocating book banning?  ( I had to write it like they would)
But the title is very sexy:  "Young Guns".....
Funny they didn't object to Meggy MeShame's book....so why are they objecting to Cantor, McCarthy and Ryan's book?
link
I'm sure Ace will have a field day with this one!

343 Dull, convoluted, racist, and anti-American eh?  I never knew Obama was a scriptwriter.  Who knew?

344 *So now the dems are actively advocating book banning?* I approve!

345 May the shitpile tank.  More than likely they'll at least make a few meager bucks due to enough dumbass Americans willing to pay someone to be insulting to them.

I wonder, if you made a movie about the plight of South Americans breaking into Mexico from their Southern Border, and put out a trailer "You just f***ed with the wrong South American" and included the assasination of a stereotyped Mexican politician how well that would sell in Mexico.

346 I wouldn't go see "The Stormfront Road Picture" or "The Greater East-Asian Co-Prosperity Race War" movie, why would I go see this shit?

Even from the freaking trailer it was obvious it was an exercise in bigotry and race prejudice, everything else coming out has just reinforced that, as well as the PC cowardice and "tolerance of the correct bigotries" that Hollywood is mired with.

Maybe this will help wake a few (more) people up to that.

347 Also, my apologies for posting on-topic.

348 Machete sounds muy shitty.

349 Is Danny Glover in it? I'll go if he is.

350

OK, I'm back.  What can I say?  Politically, the movie sucked ass.  Like Avatar.  But it was a kick-ass crazy slash film.  Danny Trejo did good work.

He also got to suck face with Lindsay Lohan with her titties hanging out.  And her naked movie mom too.  Which isn't something you see every day of the week.

Also, the movie was about 30 minutes too long. 

Anyway, this guy did a good job of explaining the bullshit nature of the politics it tried to expouse.

 

Posted by: Komissar Vladimir at September 04, 2010 09:25 PM (zGZPg)

351 390Is Danny Glover in it? I'll go if he is.

Posted by: Banjo at September 05, 2010 11:33 AM (nnZ5F)

Yeah, he was in it.  He played the Cheech Marin character.  What a trip!

352 If they'd just made the bad guy coyotes and exploitative big businesses abusing illegals for cheap labor as slaves, then the movie could have been great. Put Machete up against a corrupt politician protecting the corporation and tie it into drug troubles in Mexico and you have a winner everyone can enjoy.

Instead they had to make a moron political statement that doesn't even make sense by their own setup.

353 That reviewer's last line sure took me by surprise. I like that guy.

354 "KentAllard" on tepid air was a Moby;

here tonight he keeps trying to steer this thread onto birther-ism

coincidence?

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Oh well, here goes:   My answer to this movie would be simple:  "Fight crime - shoot back!"

357 Danny Trejo-who gives a crap?

Anyone that would go to see this movie needs their head examined.


Scratch that, same for them as the last sentence from the reviewer. F you.

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362 hey alamo that's the same as a white person ranting about white power isn't it? i don,t know why all you rednecks are so affraid of a damn movie,after all it is only a movie isn't it? or maybe there's too much truth about how anybody that isn't white is treated in this country in that movie.native americans ,hispanics,and blacks have been portrayed much worst since hollywood started making movies,and you guys get so upset over one movie don't feel so good does it?

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