Ace of Spades HQ

March 10, 2010

Nomentum: Another Yes to No
— Ace

A Yes to No, that is, unless the abortion language changes, which it most likely will not.

Rep. Joe Donnelly, D-Ind., voted for the House Democrats' health care reform legislation last November, but he told the Rochester Sentinel that the abortion language in the Senate bill is not restrictive enough for him.
The SenateÂ’s abortion language is a "fatal flaw," he told the newspaper. "I would not vote for it.Â” He added that the Senate legislationÂ’s abortion language is opposed by "a significant" number of House Democrats and could kill the bill.

Little by little, Stupak is proving that he was on-the-level when he said his bloc would stand firm and vote against this.

Posted by: Ace at 10:38 AM | Comments (40)
Post contains 124 words, total size 1 kb.

1 Pelosi will issue more spin soon.

Posted by: Vic at March 10, 2010 10:40 AM (QrA9E)

2 It still would have been better to kill this monstrosity in the House when we had the chance. Although for bloggers, it's a godsend of posting material.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at March 10, 2010 10:41 AM (muUqs)

3 Will they just admit that there "deadline" for passing this is Nov. 2?

Posted by: taylork at March 10, 2010 10:42 AM (0Hn5w)

4
Free Whiplash insurance for 30 million. It will only cost a trillion a year, but our cuts to medicaid will make it deficit neutral. Trust us.

-Barrack & KOS

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at March 10, 2010 10:42 AM (0fzsA)

Yes, I cannot vote for this bill unless the abortion language is changed.

By the way, my brother-in-law could use a job...

Posted by: Stupak's block of Democrats at March 10, 2010 10:43 AM (TpXEI)

6 So, one more day and still no vote on ObamaCare. Good. That means they still don't have the votes. As much as I want to see the thing killed outright, my next best desire is to see the Democrats continue to yap about it. More yapping = lower polls for them.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 10, 2010 10:46 AM (JgygP)

7 If Nancy had the votes, she would have held the votes already. Although am I the only who thinks some of these Dims are just holding out for a higher price, like the Third-world official who claims not to be corrupt?

Posted by: Hatchet Five at March 10, 2010 10:46 AM (yfa38)

8 I'm going to need to buy a shower cap.

Posted by: Rahm Emanuel at March 10, 2010 10:47 AM (Q41Zh)

By the way, my brother-in-law could use a job...

You're way too cheap.

Posted by: Mary Landrieu at March 10, 2010 10:47 AM (yfa38)

10 Although am I the only who thinks some of these Dims are just holding out for a higher price, like the Third-world official who claims not to be corrupt?

Since they have to pass the exact bill as the Senate, I doubt she can offer anything else and guarantee it.

Posted by: taylork at March 10, 2010 10:48 AM (0Hn5w)

11 If the "aborto-centrists" kill this bill, Neal Boortz will be so conflicted he won't know whether to celebrate or commit suicide.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 10, 2010 10:49 AM (xxgag)

12 But what if the Democrats can pass the bill with no House vote at all?

I hate these people.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 10, 2010 10:49 AM (mR7mk)

Yeah, please drag this out as long as possible, Congresscritters. The longer you do, the more public sentiment turns against this bill, as it should.

But on another front, they actually have a bill printed out with the details in it? Last I heard, that wasn't the case.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 10, 2010 10:49 AM (i3AsK)

14 Time for that slack jawed bitch to put up of shut up. I'm tired of this bullshit.

Posted by: maddogg at March 10, 2010 10:49 AM (OlN4e)

Pelosi says House has votes for healthcare if vote were held today

Then FUCKING vote on it today!

Posted by: conscious and avoiding Pelosio like a STD at March 10, 2010 10:50 AM (Vu6sl)

16 I'm confused. Which Nomentum is this? The one that's up for a Golden Globe or the one that's rumored to be nominated for an Oscar next year? And which one stars Brian Denehy?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 10, 2010 10:51 AM (UOM48)

17 Since they have to pass the exact bill as the Senate, I doubt she can offer anything else and guarantee it.

Look for big payoffs to be inserted into other bills. The corrupt is strong with this bunch.

Posted by: Hatchet Five at March 10, 2010 10:52 AM (yfa38)

Someone help me with this.....They can't change the abortion language in the senate bill at this point right? If they are going to do that they have to write a whole new bill. Voting on the senate bill as is does not change any language, so what the hell is stupak even negotiating on?

Does he want a new bill or what? It is physically impossible to change the language of that senate bill at this point, so what is the deal? Is he trying to get a "fix" done later? He has said he would not accept that, so what does he want?

Posted by: Dan at March 10, 2010 10:53 AM (1jzSs)

19 I'm beginning to wonder if one of the reasons Obama and Co. chose to immediately re-launch the health care debate after the Brown election had effectively settled it was to forestall the coming campaign electioneering within and without their Party. Now they can't put it off any longer.
As miserable as Obama thinks he's been so far, the next 8 months are gonna be brutal. Distancing oneself from him will become a national sport.

Posted by: lincolntf at March 10, 2010 10:53 AM (cGaVN)

20 I am certain the repubs have the votes for a motion to recommit with instructions for a modest bill. So, Nancy not only has to get plus-one on the bill -- but also stay plus-one if the Minority Leader drops something very appealing on the floor.

Posted by: Jean at March 10, 2010 10:53 AM (/8Gs3)

21 Does he want a new bill or what?

Maybe he wants more regular shower pokings and gang tickles?

Posted by: taylork at March 10, 2010 10:54 AM (0Hn5w)

22 As one of Joe's constituents I can tell you that while I personally like him (I've met him a few times and he seems like a really nice guy), this change to 'no' looks like a cya maneuver.

I voted for him last election but that was because of his supposed anti-abortion stance and his supposed fiscal conservative position. Voting for this bill the first time destroyed his credibility as a fiscal hawk and when I heard him defend his 'yes' vote the first time he didn't mention that he was doing it because of the additional abortion language.

A nice guy yes, but the guy I want representing me? at this point I don't know.

Posted by: Matthew at March 10, 2010 10:54 AM (h0Hnb)

23 Distancing oneself from him will become a national sport.

Already underway.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 10, 2010 10:57 AM (mR7mk)

Matthew at March 10, 2010 02:54 PM (h0Hnb)

He needs to be removed from office just for voting for the healthcare bill.

Posted by: harleycowboy at March 10, 2010 10:57 AM (JKGfQ)

25 #15

Pure bluff. Empirically she is definitely NOT sure she has them, or she'd simply have scheduled a vote.

I'd hasten to add that Pelosi can't even possibly KNOW whether or not she has the votes because there are a good number of House members on the fence (or allegedly on the fence) waiting to see what the "fix" is going to look like.

Maybe some of these individuals are posturing (that would be the smart position here, I think), but stipulating that there are probably at least a few House members who legitimately ARE waiting to see what a final bill will look like before committing, and with the razor thin margins she probably has, I don't even think its possible for Pelosi to know whether or not she has the votes yet.

Posted by: looking closely at March 10, 2010 10:57 AM (PwGfd)

26 Common all the cool kids are voting no. You can be cool too!

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at March 10, 2010 10:58 AM (0q2P7)

27 You are all Fucking Numbnuts. Pelosi's balls are Fucking bigger then all you House Fucking Dems. We need to Fucking vote now so Fucking Obama can fucking screw-off in Fucking Asia...

Posted by: Rahm Emanual at March 10, 2010 11:00 AM (k7Ddt)

28 #18

Its a good question.

Presuming he's being sincere about his opposition due to abortion funding (and I think he likely is), he's probably just trying not to appear obstructionist.

Posted by: looking closely at March 10, 2010 11:01 AM (PwGfd)

29
As Drudge points out, they've been claiming 'end game' for almost a year now. The longer this drags on, the more damage the Democrat party takes. So keep dragging, baby. I hope Hatch is serious about shutting down the Senate if this abomination comes to the floor.

Posted by: Dang Straights at March 10, 2010 11:01 AM (fx8sm)

30 So the take away is...that Senate Democrats destroyed any shot of getting HCR passed with their insistence that abortion must be somehow subsidized with taxpayer monies.

Not that I expect libtards to make that kind of connection...but, still.

Posted by: Deety at March 10, 2010 11:07 AM (aVzyR)

31
Each man must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, which course is patriotic and which isn't. You cannot shirk this and be a man. To decide against your conviction is to be an unqualified and excusable traitor, both to yourself and to your country, let me label you as they may. ~Mark Twain

Posted by: curious at March 10, 2010 11:09 AM (p302b)

32 Bwahahaha:

Monica Conyers has just been sentenced to 37 months in prison. She also received 2 years of supervised probation. Just before sentencing, Conyers screamed "If they have their tapes, I have my tapes too. I taped Rayford, I taped Riddle. You'll be fair to me or I want to withdraw my plea."

She also yelled, "What about my children? They did nothing to cause this. All I did was try to help someone I fired."

Posted by: Tami at March 10, 2010 11:14 AM (VuLos)

Well I'll be damned. Al was right all along....

Posted by: maddogg at March 10, 2010 11:20 AM (OlN4e)

34 Hey Drew, Think all these guys would have voted No on the original bill if the Republicans had screwed them on the Stupak Amendment? Think maybe Pelosi could have passed a Stupak-less bill back in November, and thus now had a few more Democrats who'd voted yes the first time, but who didn't give a damn about the Senate Abortion language? Since the Senate is never going to vote to pass the House Bill, the only thing about the House Bill passing that matters is that it put certain people on record as having voted for ObamaCare. Thanks to the Stupak Amendment, 12 - 14 of those "Yes" votes have a solid reason to switch to "No" votes on the Senate bill. All this is due to the Republicans sticking with their principles (and their base), instead of playing the stupid political games you wanted them to play. Ready to admit you were wrong?

Posted by: Greg Q at March 10, 2010 11:22 AM (87k2j)

35 I have my tapes too. I taped Rayford, I taped Riddle.

Oh yes, please release them (if you actually have them), but wait until my popcorn is ready.

I second the motion for a bwah hahahaha.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 10, 2010 11:23 AM (cpuvG)

36 35

Relativity:
Gods idea of posted speed limits.

I wonder if after 80 or so years of fierce debates and experiment after reproducible experiment confirming every portion of relativistic theory, if perhaps the scientific community can come to a consensus, declare the debate on how gravity, light, and energy work to be over, and declare Relativity a Law. It's not like this is complicated like climate science. I want to get started calling people Relativity Deniers.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at March 10, 2010 11:33 AM (0q2P7)

37 My balls are so sore, I'm considering chemical castration.

Posted by: dippin' lots lately at March 10, 2010 11:46 AM (ucq49)

skechers shape ups shoes under sales promotion, all the shape up shoes are sold nearly at its cost and free shipping. It is really high quality and cheap.wholesale mlb jerseys wholesale mlb jerseys

Posted by: shape ups shoes at March 10, 2010 07:02 PM (Phozt)

39 Thanks for sharing.great article!
Anyway,Welcome to herve leger online store .The Fashionable dress world!The bandage herve leger dress continues to the classic impression of the brand.
The new style and designer of the brand standing out your matchless stature.Wearing it,you will be more sexy and graceful.If so offended, please forgive me^^!

Posted by: herve leger dress at March 10, 2010 10:56 PM (nRKgM)

40
China gear industry in the "fifth" period has been the rapid development: the gear industry in 2005 from 2000 the annual output value of 240 billion yuan to 68.3 billion yuan, the sprocketannual compound growth rate of 23.27%, has become the largest machine components industry. To market demand and production scale, China's gear industry has surpassed Italy in the world ranking, ranking fourth in the world.

Posted by: sprocket at December 04, 2010 09:01 AM (OL2us)

Hide Comments | Add Comment | Refresh | Top

Comments are disabled. Post is locked.

85kb generated in CPU 0.0911, elapsed 0.2011 seconds.
64 queries taking 0.1828 seconds, 168 records returned.
Powered by Minx 1.1.6c-pink.