1 Never trust anyone with "Kos" in their name.

2 If the reconciliation fix actually reduced costs, that would take it further away from progressives' dreams, which is the opposite, I thought, of what reconciliation is being promised to do.

And therein is one of the problems...the warring groups want different and mutually exclusive fixes.

3 Why does she keep referring to the 'House bill'?  If anything passes, it would be the Senate bill.

4 We still haven't seen anyone go from No to Yes yet. That could be because they don't want to get beat up, especially if a vote never gets taken. Still though, you'd think Pelosi would want someone to come out publicly to build some momentum.

I don't think they are having much luck getting yes votes and I doubt Pelsoi has or had any in reserve like we all thought. That was 4 long months ago. I think it's all from scratch now.

5 Politicians keep using the term "fee for service" to describe the current system. Either they are talking about a different system or trying to make the term unpalatable when used correctly.

Since a fee for service system with catastrophic insurance coverage is the best answer I can see.

6

So she basically puked out the Party line and added, "but I'm voting no".

I don't think it really matters anyway for her. If her district was red enough to go McCain there is no way she holds the seat with the public disgust with the Demoncrap Party right now.

7 Can someone update me on the current count?

Does anyone even know what that is?

Without knowing the numbers, I think its clear Pelosi doesn't have the votes to pass this or the Senate version would already be law.

The question is, how close is she?

8 The Ace arises to stalk the Earth!

9 She's in my district - the Space Coast and to the northeast of Orlando. People are already spun up here over the job losses at NASA. She will likely lose her job no matter what she votes. This is a conservative corridor.

10

She's named after Markos' annual festival of sheep-fucking and bong-water-enemas?

Weird.

11 If only Obama would give more speeches and do more interviews, all his problems would be solved. And the world healed.

12 Kosmas - yadda, yadda, yadda.....I'm covering my liberal ass on this one.

13 12 - Does the district have the Florida senior citizen population?  I'm sure they're really happy about the half a Trillion dollars in Medicare cuts. 

14

8

Watermelons are certainly a more effective incentive than a naked finger-poking Rahmbo. With no towel to cover his tush.

15 #12

The odds may be against her, but unless she's already decided NOT to run again, it would still be in her personal interest to vote "No" on this.

16 Her no vote is the reason the Shuttle wasn't funded. The won is coming to Florida soon to talk some more about it, sounds like it's going to be a wasted trip, we ain't gettin' funding.

17
Ha!  Her name is Kosmas!  I thought it was a new Ace insult.

18 She bailed out of that bill like a gila monster jumping from a sinking zeppelin.

19
Did she makes this statement in blackface?

20 AARP can get bent. Just another socialist organization I tell to fuck off.

21 #17

This I know.

Again, if she had the votes, this would be a done deal.   Empirically she doesn't have them. . .RIGHT NOW.

My question revolves around how close she is.  The House bill did pass last time.

So assuming NO vote defections, and assuming she can satisfy the Stupak abortion caucus (neither of which are safe assumptions), she might be fairly close.

Lets flip the question around.  Apart from the Stupackers, how many House members who voted FOR the House bill are inclined to vote AGAINST the Senate version?

22

I hope they have locks on the ladies restroom or she'll be getting a visit from Runt Emmanuel.

23 Woe be to all those who predicted my demise!

24 Speaker Pelosi:

I regret to inform you that after long and careful consideration I have decided not to join your Jim Jones Commemorative Caucus. After examining the Jonestown II project, I do not believe that it is the best interest of my constituents. Best of luck with your continuing work on the projects foundational Kool-Aid® initiative.

Regards,
Suzanne Kosmas

25 I hope they have locks on the ladies restroom or she'll be getting a visit from Runt Emmanuel. Who's the chick in the tutu and why won't she shave her legs?

26

22 - One thing about senior citizens is that they have time on their hands.  Oh, and they hang out together at the senior centers and commiserate on the topics of the day.  Years ago up in Chicago, Dan Rostenkowski (Dem chair of the House Ways & Means Committee, Chicago US House 5th district) was literally chased down the street by an angry mob of seniors.  It was a full cane & umbrella waving rout. 

Eventually Rostenkowski went to jail for his deeds and his constituents elected a republican!!!  Only for one term though.  Then those esteemed citizens elected Rod Blagoyvetch as their congressman, and further beclowned themselves by electing Rahm Emmanuel.

I should check and see how the current congresscritter voted on healthcare destruction.

27 Barry will use a naked, threatening Rahmbo to "get his point across."

28 There must be real incentives to maintain healthy lifestyles...by eliminating life-time caps on coverage, and by taking steps to lower premiums.

So Kosmas is a 'no' on this unpopular bill but in principle she is in favor of expending government control of medicine. 

29 28 - Nah, she's actually trolling for a good shower poking from Rahm. She figures this last act of desperation is what it'll take to get him to "finally notice her"

30 Some of these Dems in close or losing races have to keep in mind that if they lose the upcoming election, there's always 2012. Unless you voted FOR the Pelosi Suicide Pact. Then you don't need to bother running for at least 6 years, because we'll keep bringing your stupid "Yes" vote up every public appearance you make.

31 Nah, she's actually trolling for a good shower poking from Rahm.

Don't count out Nancy Pelosi and her strap-on for a good poking either.

32 The people with pitchforks outside my office had nothing to do with this decision.

33
Don't count out Nancy Pelosi and her strap-on for a good poking either.


You bastard.  I just ate lunch.

34 So Kosmas is a 'no' on this unpopular bill but in principle she is in favor of expending government control of medicine.

Yeah, I read this as a Kucinichesque, "Sorry, it's not Fascist (in the Mussolini totalitarian-socialist sense) enough."  Particularly:

moves us away from the fee-for-service system

Gov't-run clinics or nothing!

35 When Zero fails miserably with Zerocare, he is finished. Pelosi is finished. Reid is finished. I will toast their exit to the dustbin of failed socialists.

36 Don't count out Nancy Pelosi and her strap-on for a good poking either.


You bastard.  I just ate lunch.

I aim to shock and horrify

37 I don't know everyone hates Obamacare so much. I'm sure it will do for Healthcare costs what his Stimulous did for jobs.

38 I don't trust this cunt or any other democrat. Period.

39 Speaker Pelosi:

I regret to inform you that after long and careful consideration I have decided not to join your Jim Jones Commemorative Caucus. After examining the Jonestown II project, I do not believe that it is the best interest of my constituents. Best of luck with your continuing work on the projects foundational Kool-Aid® initiative.

Regards,
Suzanne Kosmas

Posted by: MikeTheMoose

 

This right here is both the thread winner and best alternate name to Nomentum

40

This right here is both the thread winner and best alternate name to Nomentum

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 08, 2010 03:14 PM (R2fpr)

Wha???

41 This right here is both the thread winner and best alternate name to Nomentum

I  miss Joementum.

42

Was Nomentum VII ever released or did the funding get pulled in production?

43 FOX NEWS ALERT! Obama has just dispatched a nude Rahm Emanuel to the congressional showers! We will be going live to Carl Cameron who will in the showers on the scene for us!

44 oBomentum

45 I 's sho' wish Ah had a Cucurbitaceae!

46 I remember Joementum. At least Lieberman did not hate his own country.

47 It's cool that Ace is now a featured guest blogger.

48 They just started filming on another remake of Psycho:  Massa plays the chick in the shower, Rahm plays the psycho and his finger plays the knife.  Nancy Pelosi plays his mother in the chair, no makeup needed.

49

The correct amount to send the AARP:

$0.00 and an envelope full of puppy chow and smegma.

50

Just called my guy McGovern (D-MA 3) to tell him to vote no.  Said I feared that the worst that will happen is not that they will lose their jobs, but something far worse than that.  Made sure to say I wasn't making a threat or a prediction.  But that we don't want it, and please don't vote for it.

They took down my name and address.  That's positive, I think.  Either that, or the secret service will be visiting soon.

51

"FOX NEWS ALERT! Obama has just dispatched a nude Rahm Emanuel to the congressional showers! We will be going live to Carl Cameron who will in the showers on the scene for us!"

I'm pretty sure that Shep Smith will demand to live anchor that event.

(The eyeliner is a dead giveaway.)

52 Et mes chaussettes sont débranchées.

53 55 It's cool that Ace is now a featured guest blogger.

Posted by: Orly at March 08, 2010 03:23 PM (1ZSq3)

He's "Editor Emeritus" since he sold the blog to Ozzie Osborne.

54
I  miss Joementum.

Posted by: taylork

 

That makes two so far. (Including Joe)

55

"Massa" seems like a good name for a gay guy who's into leather.

You don't even have to pay for extra business cards.

56 If you thought Scott Brown was America's hero for (supposedly) stopping hell care, just imagine what Massa could do if he formed a posse of dem "no" votes  that stood up to the Three Stooges and Bambi.  What's Rahmbo going to do, get a machine gun and take 'em all out?

57

How much did they pay McCain to blow that election?

He wasn't even as convincing as Joe Frazier. 

58 From critical condition at NRO:

The president is also imploring Americans to "Make your voice heard." Never has he given such sound advice. 

The health-care debate has now come down to this: Can one man's desires prevail over those of 150,000,000 Americans (the difference between the roughly 225 million who oppose Obamacare and the roughly 75 million who support it)? Can one man — through coercion, threats, and payoffs — prove to be more persuasive to individual Democratic members of Congress than the collective voice of their constituents — expressed through calls, letters, rallies, and marches? Can one man convince Democratic members that their vote on Obamacare doesn't matter (and that they shouldn't care even if it did), or can their constituents convince them that it DOES matter (and that they better care)?

There are only five minutes left in the game. The legs are heavier, the arms wearier, the arc on the jump-shots flatter. And now it's just a question of will. 

We face an opponent who is fiercely driven by thoughts of personal glory and ideological zeal to make every effort to consolidate and centralize power in Washington under his control. In defense of liberty and fiscal responsibility, we need to match every ounce of our opponent's perseverance. Let's leave it all out on the floor. 

As Magic Johnson used to say before a game's final moments —  during which its outcome would be decided — "It's winnin' time."

59
Massa could do if he formed a posse of dem "no" votes  that stood up to the Three Stooges and Bambi

That's a whole lot of naked showers for Tinypenis McBallerina to prance around.

60 42 HeatherRadish: Agree. The policy wonks' "solutions" that don't involve "fees for services" (translation - market capitalism) are simply socialism. "Managed Care", "Capitation" etc.. are Newspeak for indentured servitude for healthcare providers - they vary only in the degree of socialism and the truth-in-labeling. Here's a concept, technocrats. How about everyone pays for their medical care with their own money, or an insurer's money pursuant to a contract they agree on without someone else nosing around in it ? If the word "government" just has to be involved, how about "government can't tax money spent for healthcare."

61

Whatever facist teabaggers.  Barack and my boys are putting all your neocon asses in Gitmo and letting the brown people free as an inlightinied society will do!

 

Barack Uber Alles!!!!!

62 Truman North? No, I don't know any Truman North....

63 Good.  Send them.  Bring it.  They'll find a goddamned patriot and nothing threatening but the goddamned truth.

64

You know what is missing from all the stories out there? Confimred Yes that are staying yes. Othere than a few you can count on one hand, all the previous yes votes have remained mum. It's honest nancy, Reid and Obama that are confirming the yes votes, not the actua;l people doing the voting

 

Funny how the previous no votes and the congressmen that are switching to no have all publically stated their position themselves. How many of the previous 217 yes votes have publically stated they are staying yes? 5, 8? The rest pelosi has shut up and is saying what she wants to see. I would bet money there are alot of former yes votes going no but Pelosi, Reid and obama are mnot about to let that info. be publisized.

Alinsky rule: give the perception of success despite the reality. We saw them do this all through the campaign with phony support numbers. it's still going on

65 The more they talk about it, the more it hurts them.  Let them keep talking.

66 Dude, the second you said "This is not a threat." they were on the phone with the fuzz.

Posted by: right at March 08, 2010 03:44 PM (EquV1)

The politicians are good at protecting themselves.

However, we're expected to pay their salaries. pay them thir bribes, and also pay off their buddies, then leap to our deaths from burning 110-story buildings .

67

If they had the votes, they would not even be talking about it. Nothing but bluster. Pelosi, Reid and Obama can't put up or shut up. Who drones on and on about how they have the votes rather than actually voting right then and there? It's desperate people that know they don't have the votes but pray others will say " oh well, I don't want to be on the losing side of this. Why, I better switch my no vote to yes!". this is grammer school tactic and mentallity the 3 stooges are displaying

 

68

Spot on, Ex Dem.

If they had the votes, the talking would be over. Keep the pressure on, folks. Remember, a written letter has as much influence as several phone calls. Write the congresscritters in the swing districts that you will work hard to unseat in November anyone that supports the Senate bill.

 

69 "Additionally, we should hold insurance companies accountable by preventing them from denying coverage based on preexisting conditions, by eliminating life-time caps on coverage, and by taking steps to lower premiums."

The fact that this would cause them to go out of business is of no interest to her at all.
Fucking scum-sucking politicians.  They will destroy us all.

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