March 18, 2010

Nomentum: Michael Arcuri (D-NY) Flips from Yes to No
— Ace

Gabe mentioned him earlier as a possible flip under the heading "It's an Election Year."

Indeed, it is:

Rep. Michael Arcuri (D-NY), a sophomore Dem who had a tougher-than-expected re-election bid in ‘08, has told the Dem caucus he will vote against the bill.

He's actually on the rules committee, and while his change of vote won't stop the bill from proceeding to the floor (Democrats stacked the committee with a 9-4 majority), it is interesting that a Democrat on that committee is voting Nay.


Concern Trolling: I am worrying that in-jeopardy Democrats are being set loose to vote no as each safe liberal in an overwhelmingly blue state is flipped from No to Yes. (Remember, a handful of liberals voted "No" initially, like Dennis Kucinich, because the bill wasn't socialistic enough.)

This is perhaps engineered, as Granny Rictus McBotoxImplants collects Get Out Of Voting Free cards and distributes them among her favorites.

Posted by: Ace at 09:31 AM | Comments (71)
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1 Nomentum! Makes me want to dip... but still to early.

Posted by: Mjim at March 18, 2010 09:33 AM (V8B//)

2

Anyone have the link to drew's NCAA bracket thingy..??

...forgot to bookmark it

 

Posted by: beedubya at March 18, 2010 09:34 AM (AnTyA)

3 Here's to hoping there a lot more of these coming around.

Posted by: Grunt2Jag at March 18, 2010 09:34 AM (Yr6lx)

4
They can't ignore this snowball forever.

Posted by: Dang Straights at March 18, 2010 09:34 AM (fx8sm)

5 Rush mentioned Arcuri and another flip from yes to no. Forgot who. If not a flaming skull, a flaming tibia?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2010 09:35 AM (9Cooa)

6 Be like Mike! Avoid the Colorado River of Demgore the future holds.

Posted by: maddogg at March 18, 2010 09:35 AM (OlN4e)

7
Flaming TOTUS?

Posted by: Dang Straights at March 18, 2010 09:35 AM (fx8sm)

8 WATCH OUT, POTENTIAL INCOMING BI-PARTISANSHIP!

From NRO:

Obama called up Joe Cao, the only Republican to vote for Obamacre. Obama asked Cao to “study” the Senate language on abortion. Cao said he would, but I doubt he’ll flip to yes after saying he was a no if the Catholic bishops oppose the Senate language.

Posted by: enoxo at March 18, 2010 09:35 AM (u43Tp)

9 If the reps go home for the Easter break before passing this it's all over. They'll see their constituents up in arms, the DC press corps won't be there to shield them, and they'll come back and shoot this turkey. Or at least that's my fantasy.

Posted by: joncelli at March 18, 2010 09:36 AM (RD7QR)

10 I wonder if, being a Dem on the rules committee, he can prevent some of the Slaughter shenanigans from going under the radar.  A 9-4 vote is two-thirds, but 8-5 is not.  There might be some rules that need to be changed by a two-thirds vote, I don't know, but there has to be a reason they stacked it the way they did.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 18, 2010 09:36 AM (T0NGe)

11 But after it's passed everyone will see how awesomely awesome it is.Didn't he get Pelosi's memo?

Posted by: Mal at March 18, 2010 09:36 AM (Z+qzA)

12 Nomentum!!!!!!!!!!!!

Another Dem that can't get it up for Pelosi.

A note for the R's come Januar,. make the Speaker either smart or hot. Stupid and frightening looking does not sway votes.


Posted by: Rocks at March 18, 2010 09:36 AM (Q1lie)

13 11:35am MDT, Matheson (D-UT2) still undecided.

Posted by: SaintGeorgeGentile at March 18, 2010 09:37 AM (qWKek)

14 I'd like to be the first to condemn Congressman Arcuri for opposing one percent imaginary deficit reduction in the coming decade.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 18, 2010 09:38 AM (B+qrE)

15 9-4 majority on the Rules committee?  That's not proportional to representation.

How does that make any sense?

Too many games.  Can't wait for November.

Posted by: throwaway handle at March 18, 2010 09:38 AM (dUOK+)

16

A note for the R's come Januar,. make the Speaker either smart or hot. Stupid and frightening looking does not sway votes.

I'm always up for hot!

Posted by: maddogg at March 18, 2010 09:38 AM (OlN4e)

17 if the prez has cancelled his trip, why on earth do they have to rush this for Sunday?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 18, 2010 09:38 AM (SB0V2)

18

Hell, even one of Nancy Botoxi's floor whips is a no.  How did that not make the Whip Count?

 

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Posted by: Tim at March 18, 2010 09:38 AM (xq7pr)

19 It's gonna be great when they pass this thing, if for no other reason than to explode knuckleheads

Posted by: Ace's Neurontin prescription at March 18, 2010 09:38 AM (vsoRI)

20 Kucinich douchebag numbers are holding at 105,00 on google.

Posted by: sTevo at March 18, 2010 09:39 AM (Lbebx)

21 I know I've been beating this drum every time I comment here (once in a blue moon), but it they actually get it to a vote it's over.  No way in hell the Dem. waverers don't hear the siren song of history no matter what they said beforehand.  Will the Hispanic Caucus and the like turn down a once-in-a-generation chance to get the socialist foot in the door because it doesn't cover as many illegals as they'd like? 

I do like that Dear Leader has canceled his Asia trip, though -- gotta keep reinforcing that perception that He and the rest of the Dems don't give a crap about anything but partisan domestic politics.

Posted by: bullfrog at March 18, 2010 09:39 AM (g+3Ca)

22 If the reps go home for the Easter break before passing this it's all over.

Well, at least until November when the lame duck assholes have nothing left to lose.

Posted by: Mal at March 18, 2010 09:39 AM (Z+qzA)

23 I wonder if, being a Dem on the rules committee, he can prevent some of the Slaughter shenanigans from going under the radar. A 9-4 vote is two-thirds, but 8-5 is not. There might be some rules that need to be changed by a two-thirds vote, I don't know, but there has to be a reason they stacked it the way they did. House committee assignments are always stacked in favor of the majority so this might not be significant. But it can't help things that this guy is a member of such an important committee.

Posted by: joncelli at March 18, 2010 09:40 AM (RD7QR)

24

It's gonna be great when they pass this thing, if for no other reason than to explode knuckleheads

One word for you, witless commie:  November.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 18, 2010 09:40 AM (B+qrE)

25 Well, well, the cockroach has found another crack to scuttle through.

Posted by: maddogg at March 18, 2010 09:40 AM (OlN4e)

26 O/T but polling data is trending now, may be puddingworthy:

Gallup, -2 among adults: 46A, 48D
Rasmussen, -10 among RV: 45A, 55D
Rasmussen, -20 index: 23SA, 43SD

The abyss is at +2.  The Ras numbers are now staying steady around these numbers but the shocking thing is Gallup, which is trending downwards.  It was -1 for the first time yesterday.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 18, 2010 09:40 AM (T0NGe)

27 Regarding your concern: I don't think Pelosi has the luxury of doing that. She needs every confirmed yes vote she can get.

Posted by: Chris R at March 18, 2010 09:41 AM (AO4qz)

28 I don't buy the Concern Trolling Ace.  If they were doing that they would wait till the floor vote to let 'em go.

Posted by: Rocks at March 18, 2010 09:41 AM (Q1lie)

29 Rush reports Steven Lynch from Mass. switching yes to NO!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2010 09:42 AM (9Cooa)

30 Why would they schedule a vote for sunday if they didn't have the vote?

Posted by: Ben at March 18, 2010 09:42 AM (wuv1c)

31 A public orgy of necrophilia. That's what we'll see if there's no vote before Spring Recess, cuz I think they'll hump it all the way to November.

Posted by: arhooley at March 18, 2010 09:43 AM (8iLXV)

32 O/T diversion from ShitCare talk today:

Obama Surrenders Gulf Oil to Moscow

Posted by: Twinks at March 18, 2010 09:43 AM (wRPBa)

33 Why would they schedule a vote for sunday if they didn't have the vote? Posted by: Ben at March 18, 2010 01:42 PM (wuv1c) They're trying to press the wavering Dems against a deadline. If that doesn't work then the vote will magically switch to somewhere in the future.

Posted by: joncelli at March 18, 2010 09:44 AM (RD7QR)

34 On a positive note: I'm really, really hoping that the public, having gotten a good long hard look at the Left when the mask was off, realizes that they care nothing about anything except personal political advantage.  Any and all self-inflicted wounds to their "we care about the People; conservatives are only in it for themselves" mythology are great.

Posted by: bullfrog at March 18, 2010 09:44 AM (g+3Ca)

35

Why would they schedule a vote for sunday if they didn't have the vote?

Posted by: Ben at March 18, 2010 01:42 PM (wuv1c)

It isn't scheduled yet, just preliminary.

Posted by: robtr at March 18, 2010 09:44 AM (fwSHf)

36 Why would they schedule a vote for Sunday if they didn't have the vote?

Aaaaa to get out of going to church?

Posted by: Paladin at March 18, 2010 09:45 AM (AfORa)

37 Is the reason a vote is still scheduled for Sunday have anything to do with the 'demon pass'?  Do they have to have the House assembled to sell their souls to Pelosi?  Anyone know what the process is for that?

Posted by: sow'nreap at March 18, 2010 09:45 AM (nYF3I)

38 Why would they schedule a vote for sunday if they didn't have the vote?
Posted by: Ben at March 18, 2010 01:42 PM (wuv1c)


Here's another question... why would Obama cancel his Indonesia trip if they had the votes for Sunday?

Posted by: enoxo at March 18, 2010 09:45 AM (u43Tp)

39

How do you tell the difference betwen a concern troll and an Eeyore again?

 

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at March 18, 2010 09:45 AM (F09Uo)

40 Will the Hispanic Caucus and the like turn down a once-in-a-generation chance to get the socialist foot in the door because it doesn't cover as many illegals as they'd like? 

We all know they're playing a gamo of bluffo.

Posted by: arhooley at March 18, 2010 09:46 AM (8iLXV)

41 How do you tell the difference betwen a concern troll and an Eeyore again? Posted by: Jim in San Diego at March 18, 2010 01:45 PM (F09Uo) The concern troll is really a moby. The Eeyore is just depressed.

Posted by: joncelli at March 18, 2010 09:47 AM (RD7QR)

42 Concern Trolling: I am worrying that in-jeopardy Democrats are being set loose to vote no

Does that really qualify as concern trolling? What have any Democrats done in the last year (I'll be kind) to make us think they're putting even themselves above the fairytale ideological America-screwing nonsense they're trying to force out of Washington?

The only thing I'll give them is that they didn't pass Cap and Screw in the Senate when they could have, but I think they weren't counting on ObamaCare dragging out and losing their filibuster-proof majority at the same time.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 18, 2010 09:48 AM (brUTD)

43 The thing about the concern trolling is that if this passes, no Dem is safe, no matter how he voted.  Maybe the double-nos are safer than others, but it's still not good for them.

30 Why would they schedule a vote for sunday if they didn't have the vote?
Posted by: Ben at March 18, 2010 01:42 PM (wuv1c)

Pressure.  If Nancy has, say, 212 she may figure that others will hear the siren's call of "history" and break down and vote for the thing.  The other thing: She has nothing to lose, if this lasts beyond Easter break, the votes won't be there, the Dems want this whole thing forgotten by November and Pelosi's done anyway.  She won't be speaker or minority leader.


Posted by: AmishDude at March 18, 2010 09:48 AM (T0NGe)

44 It's gonna be great when they pass this thing, if for no other reason than to explode knuckleheads

I am a true knucklehead. 

my knuckles + your mom's head exploding = donkey punch

Posted by: MikeO at March 18, 2010 09:49 AM (lBmZl)

45 Why would they schedule a vote for sunday if they didn't have the vote?

Nancy has to announce a vote 72 hours in advance. If she doesn't announce it by midnight today EST, we're into Monday at the soonest.

Posted by: arhooley at March 18, 2010 09:50 AM (8iLXV)

46 arhooley @40,

couldn't agree more.  Which is why this thing still doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.  If I were Pelosi (god forbid!) and I was anywhere in the ballpark with my whip count, I'd go ahead and schedule the vote.  Delaying it only gets the public more enraged, and the chances for waverers' re-election get slimmer by the minute. 

Something weird is going on here.

Posted by: bullfrog at March 18, 2010 09:50 AM (g+3Ca)

47 Who cares about that Arcuri when there's this one?

Posted by: flurmf at March 18, 2010 09:50 AM (Xx+86)

48

 It's gonna be great when they pass this thing, if for no other reason than to explode knuckleheads

I am a true knucklehead. 

my knuckles + your mom's head exploding = donkey punch

didn't they make  a movie called Donkey Punch in which the plot was a guy donkey punches a girl, kills her, then dumps her body at sea?

Posted by: Ben at March 18, 2010 09:50 AM (wuv1c)

49 How do you tell the difference betwen a concern troll and an Eeyore again?

One of the asses has a tail.

Posted by: Zombie Jim Jones at March 18, 2010 09:51 AM (tf9Ne)

50

Why would they schedule a vote for sunday if they didn't have the vote?

Nancy has to announce a vote 72 hours in advance. If she doesn't announce it by midnight today EST, we're into Monday at the soonest.

so she can call of the sunday vote if she needs to?

Posted by: Ben at March 18, 2010 09:51 AM (wuv1c)

51 didn't they make  a movie called Donkey Punch in which the plot was a guy donkey punches a girl, kills her, then dumps her body at sea?

I don't know what "they" did, but I sure hope nobody was filming what I did to erg's mom last night.

Posted by: MikeO at March 18, 2010 09:52 AM (lBmZl)

52 9-4 majority on the Rules committee?  That's not proportional to representation. Sounds perfect to me!

How does that make any sense?

Too many games.  Can't wait for November.


FTFY

Posted by: Fairness Doctrine at March 18, 2010 09:52 AM (brUTD)

53

Question, what happens on sunday if they don't have the votes? Does it just get voted down?

Posted by: Ben at March 18, 2010 09:52 AM (wuv1c)

54 Concern Trolling: I am worrying that in-jeopardy Democrats are being set loose to vote no as each safe liberal in an overwhelmingly blue state is flipped from No to Yes.

Ace, I disagree. Each No flag that goes up is a PR wound, reducing that all-important Aura of Inevitability.

Posted by: arhooley at March 18, 2010 09:53 AM (8iLXV)

55

Question, what happens on sunday if they don't have the votes? Does it just get voted down?

Posted by: Ben at March 18, 2010 01:52 PM (wuv1c)

If the witch isn't sure she has the votes they won't vote. They can call it off at any time . Right now though it isn't scheduled. It's just a maybe.

Posted by: robtr at March 18, 2010 09:54 AM (fwSHf)

56 Concern Trolling: I am worrying that in-jeopardy Democrats are being set loose to vote no

I don't see this at all.  Kucinich was standing on principle of wanting a single payer or at a minimum a gov't option.  If she had the votes like the first time around he wouldn't have switched.  That they need him tells me they are having a VERY difficult time getting the moderates.


Posted by: Hoover at March 18, 2010 09:57 AM (sD7bS)

57 50 How do you tell the difference betwen a concern troll and an Eeyore again?

One of the asses has a tail.

Posted by: Zombie Jim Jones at March 18, 2010 01:51 PM (tf9Ne)

I know there's a joke there, but I got nothing.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at March 18, 2010 09:57 AM (F09Uo)

58 I don't buy the Concern Trolling Ace.  If they were doing that they would wait till the floor vote to let 'em go.

Posted by: Rocks at March 18, 2010 01:41 PM (Q1lie)

I have no idea what's really going on - for all I know this thing is as dead as Dillinger - I pray. But if they want to show that they are the party of "true moderate healthy bipartisan debate", they could have a bunch of Dems come out and show reservations against the bill well before it passes. I'm not saying that's what's happening. But it is certainly plausible, considering that before this thing passed the House and Senate in the first place, we had very similar yes and no games.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 18, 2010 09:58 AM (brUTD)

59 Smart and Hot.  Michelle Bachman for Speaker of the House.

Posted by: schneedoo at March 18, 2010 10:00 AM (f6+Gp)

60 so she can call of the sunday vote if she needs to?

There is no vote officially scheduled for Sunday. That's just a lot of talk, as in "We're going to get this thing done by Sunday!"

Posted by: arhooley at March 18, 2010 10:00 AM (8iLXV)

61 That they need him tells me they are having a VERY difficult time getting the moderates.

Posted by: Hoover at March 18, 2010 01:57 PM (sD7bS)


That's probably true. KucinichCare doesn't have a very good ring.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 18, 2010 10:01 AM (brUTD)

62 Okay, so am I right or wrong on the 72-hour thing? As Obama told Bret Baier, there are no secrets. It will be available for "many days" before it's voted on. I remember the "many days" assurance.

Posted by: arhooley at March 18, 2010 10:04 AM (8iLXV)

63 This is like Amnesty for the left, at least some of them.  There's plenty of risk some hyper liberals will vote for it, but it will piss off their voters if they give this gift to the evil insurance industry etc etc etc.

I think the more time this goes along, the less likely it is that it's going to pass.  I'm still impressed that they have this relentlessness, but they wouldn't need it if they had a good idea.

Posted by: throwaway handle at March 18, 2010 10:06 AM (dUOK+)

64

Kucinich switched because Odumbass promised him that this bill will lead to universal healthcare down the road.  All those that want that will vote for this bill.   As soon as this piece of shit passes, they are going to start down that road immediately.

The so-called blue dogs are the only hope we have of defeating this.   If we can't defeat it, this fight goes on until we kick everyone of those progressive pieces of shit out of office, or at least put enough of them out that they can't make a difference in any legislation to come.    If O & enough of them stay in office past 2013, we will have universal care shortly thereafter.

Gawd...I hate those pricks!

 

Posted by: Steph at March 18, 2010 10:22 AM (riZEn)

65

I had the same concern as Ace until Obama cancelled his trip.

They don't have the votes......yet.

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66 Yeah but they are using the free voting passes in conservative places like Massachusetts and New York instead of the far right uber fascist districts like say my own in Texas. She only has so many...

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67

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