1

...very good, a 'Cow' does go 'Moo', Now.

The time for talk is over.

Back in the Hot - Tub!

2 Gee, I wonder if Fineman pointed out that when MSNBC et al didn't bother covering a Bush speech that that was a sign of them "tilting against" the Bush White House.

3 What's the news relevancy of another Obama campaign speech?

He's giving one.  FNC aired the beginning.  News value met.  It's the repetitive nature of the speech that is not news.

Draw another straw Howie.

4
This whole thing has become "Do it for Obama and Pelosi, no one else.  Throw your careers away and ignore the majority of Americans WHO DO NOT WANT THIS.  Do it for Obama/Pelosi and Reid, or else."

The Democrats who stand up for the American people deserve our respect when this is over.

(eyeyeyey It's nerve-racking pinning hope on Democrats.)

5 What's the current count? Anyone have an idea where the numbers are at an who's voting yes?

6
BTW - Since Obama's travel is a constant campaign, shouldn't the DNC have to pay for it?  Instead of us tax payers...

7

Umm, President Transparency isn't quite living up to his words (shocka!) here in OH.

Biden is coming here today to buy off Steve Dreihaus' vote to fundraise. Our local paper is asking for people going to send them pics--the VP's office has barred photographers and tv crews from the junket!

8 The time for double posting is over!

9 The time for double posting is over!

Who will read my instant classic Corey Haim joke now?

10

And there's the liberal bias of assumptions in action. Perhaps the issue is CNN and MSNBC tilting towards the White House by giving Obama's pitch the umpteenth free airing.

Well, the more he speaks, the less popular his Health Care "Reform," so one might conclude that FNC is doing him a favor.

11 Obama intends to slip roofies into the drinks of the Stupak Coalition and get them to vote "Yes". Sounds like a Power Rangers episode.

12 Obama says the time for talk is over, FNC just took him at his word.

NICE.

13 I enjoy listening to Obama speeches. They are very infortitude.

14 Oh God, if only the time for talking really was over. This guy spends more time flapping his gums than most people spend asleep.

15 Great news! I was praying we would hear news like this today and here it is. Go Carney.

16
Sounds like Obama has drawn a HUGE crowd here in Ohio.

of protesters.

17 Maybe Fox has something more interesting to cover. Like golf.....

18 Mandate, indeed.

19 Hurray!  That's my district and, yes, I've been making a pest of myself calling and emailing about this. 

Carney's a good guy and there's been some talk he'll flip to R. I can't see that happening, this was an R district for ages (BITE ME SHERWOOD ahem) but there's a strong cultural Democrat influence.

This area is also hugely Catholic which explains the pro-life position.  Not that Carney doesn't really mean it but even if he didn't he'd be destroyed around here if he voted for a bill with public funding of abortion.

20

"What's the current count? Anyone have an idea where the numbers are at an who's voting yes?"

191 confirmed Yes

21 ABBA: ROCK & ROLL HALL OF FAME! my legs are tingling.

22

ECM 2 Gee, I wonder if Fineman pointed out that when MSNBC et al didn't bother covering a Bush speech that that was a sign of them "tilting against" the Bush White House.

More likely, it was a sign of them tilting toward the Bush White House. You remember what Bush speeches were like, right?

23 OT: Did anybody have Peter Graves in S. Weasel's dead pool? If so, they've got some spotted dick coming their way.

24

191 confirmed Yes

Then it's time to vote.  Tired 'a talkin'   It's votin' tam y'all.  HEPP Muh!

25 This is the first time I've felt like we can really kill this undead beast for good.

26 Listen Nancy honey I get you are all hot and bothered and all but I just can't say yes, understand? You can massage it till you're blue in the face but nothing is happening. I'm still spent from the Stimulus I think. The doctors say it's Nomentum, sorry. I don't think Eric Massa's member grabbing helped either. Call me in November after the elections okay?

27

"What's the current count? Anyone have an idea where the numbers are at an who's voting yes?"

According to Biden's count, there 187 members, one website number, a few tubes of KY and a box of Fruit Rolls-Ups.

28

I agree with Geraghty at NRO: A lot of assumed no's are actually yes's. They just don't want to be public about it and get the torch & pitchfork treatment.

Not good.

29 Listen Nancy honey I get you are all hot and bothered and all but I just can't say yes, understand? You can massage it till you're blue in the face but nothing is happening

Brain bleach, now!

30 191 confirmed Yes 11 short then? I swear I will watch this vote with popcorn and laugh maniacally if it dies a horrible death. I will also laugh maniacally if it passes but for entirely different reasons, just before someone tranq-darts my ass and hauls me off I assume.

31 #28, wouldn't that logic get you "not sure yet; haven't seen the bill yet" until the actual vote?

32 Carney's not on Jay Cost's list (realclearpolitics horserace blog) of possible "yes" to "no" votes. Excellent. Excellent. Out of nowhere switch--just what we needed.

33

Carney's a good guy on paper only.  He voted No on Cap n' tax because he got a hall pass from Nancy to polish up his conservative street creed.   He may be a Navy reservist but he's no moderate.   

That said he's first termer and I very much doubt he wants to be a 2 year and out guy.  He wants a figleaf to cover a Yes vote and he'll try and paint the recon bill as that figleaf.

No way he survives if he votes Yes to the Senate bill, recon or not.  Keep pounding him with that.  A Yes on the Senate bill is the end of his Congressional career.

34

Looking at the news dealing with foreign relations, does anyone else get the idea that the world is mooning Barry?

35

"191 confirmed Yes"

There's an additional 14 presumed Yes.  Members who have not comiited, but say they're leaning to Yes.

36 Let's hope they hold out for another eight months. Then we can change the face of the game.

37

"This is part of the reason why FNC seen as tilting against WH."

Maybe FNC should just try to slob a little knob the next time the WH overtly shuts them out or says they're not a legitimate news organization.

Emphasis on little.

38

191 is 25 short of the 216 needed ...

 

39 does anyone else get the idea that the world is mooning Barry? Okay, now I can't get this image of Hugo Chavez's butt cheeks out of my head. Thanks. Not.

40 I've been calling around to several US House districts in my neck of the woods in Illinois.  My guy is an R who is a NO, so I'm letting the nearby Dems know that I'm happy to work for their defeat in November by walking precincts, making phone calls, whatever.  I know, this is Illinois and it's the home of bribery politics, pay to play, do what we tell you, etc., but it feels good to get those dems on the phone and tell them NO NO NO!! 

41

"He may be a Navy reservist but he's no moderate."

Give me a few hours with him.  He'll be putty in my hands...

42 OT: Did anybody have Peter Graves in S. Weasel's dead pool? If so, they've got some spotted dick coming their way.

Posted by: joncelli at March 15, 2010 01:43 PM (RD7QR)

Someone named nachogranny had Peter Graves.  Unless they post here under a different nom de plume,  Morons aren't getting dick.

43 Is anyone liveblogging the Ohio protest?  I'd like to see that 'un.

44 I spotted what you did there, RushBabe...

45

The Hill's survey/tracking of House Democrats' positions on healthcare reform legislation.
Game almost over for the PURPLE LIPPED COMMIE:

 

UPDATED: 3/15/10 at 1:26 p.m.

RECENT UPDATES: Reps. Chris Carney, Jason Altmire, Brian Baird, Bart Gordon and John Boccieri

House Democrats not on this list are expected to vote yes. However, some members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus who are not mentioned below have threatened to vote no unless the Senate's immigration-related provisions are changed.

All House Republicans are expected to vote no.

If every member votes and all GOP lawmakers vote no, the maximum amount of Democratic defections to pass a bill is 37, which would lead to a 216-215 tally.

Firm No, Leaning No, Likely No(36)

46

Zerocare is a never ending nightmare. I just hope it's worse for the leftards trying to ramrod that turd down our throats. Failure of this bill will be the end of them, so Pelosi and Zero will drag it out as long as they can, and screw everything else.

47 Someone named nachogranny had Peter Graves. Unless they post here under a different nom de plume, Morons aren't getting dick. Hee hee. I saw what you did there.

48 Just listened to the jug-eared one on the radio. Good googa-mooga - I was waiting for "Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor????" Hyperbole (people are going to die needlessly if we don't pass this), built on lies (benefits start as soon as it's passed), built on even bigger lies (it's all paid for). In other words, just another diatribe from Da Won. Meanwhile, Social Security is broke - 5-full years ahead of schedule - as is Medicare. So let's drop a ginormous brand-spanking new health financing entitlement on top of it all. After all, the Chinese are made of money, right? We're in the very best of hands.

49 There are no protests in Ohio because they have beem ordered to love me or I will give another speech on Healthcare.........

50 Four Congressional 'No' votes convert to 'Yes'

Rep. John Boccieri, Ohio-16 Rep. Jason Altmire, PA-4 Rep. Barty Gordon, Tenn-6 Rep. Brian Baird, WA-3

51

Hmmm.  This guy is named on a couple lists as someone to target as he's considered a flip to "yes."  This from Michelle Malkin:

Representative John Boccieri, Democrat of Ohio, whose vote on major health care legislation could be crucial to the outcome, will not be attending President ObamaÂ’s health care rally on Monday in Strongsville, Ohio, not far from Mr. BoccieriÂ’s own district, a spokeswoman said.

52

Goddamn it...Driehaus is not going to vote "no". He is simply playing the game that Pelosi has instructed him to.

Driehaus is a fucking idiot. He is fucking Maxine Waters stupid. He does not have his own thoughts, convictions, or principles. The guy is a fucking moron..seriously.

Driehaus has done the same thing with every bill (stimulus notwithstanding because it happened too quickly to get a response from him). He first obfuscates saying he is a fiscal conservative and that he would never do anything to incerase the debt..then when he's called on that..he'll cite some outlier for his ratioanle..then reverse himself.

Trust me..he is not going to vote "no". Do not count him

 

53 Whatever Clyburn says...The Hill Newspaper stills reports them as undecided at 1326 EST...

54 Congress will do with the money they collect the first three years the same thing they have done with social security and medicare money.  They will move it into the general fund and spend it and cross their fingers that they can get away with it.  With all of the smoke and mirrors, fudging of numbers and outright fraud, the program will be bankrupt before ever paying a single benefit.

55

53 Dreihaus (OH-1) ain't going to his own fundraiser either!

56

I spoke with a staffer in Bluedog Bobby Bright's (AL-2, D) office today.  Yesterday I saw he was listed as "undecided" on either Hotair or RWN so I thought I would call to confirm.  She told me that he is a firm no on healthcare and will definitely not vote for the Slaughter rule.

57 I have the Hill whip count at 37 (they haven't pushed Nye from undecided to no) nos with 70 undecided.  One other Democrat is leaning no (Periello of Virginia).  That would put it at 38 nos which is enough to kill the bill.  Need some more nos to break this thing wide open.

58 I, for one, am so glad Oblather made a hard pivot to jobs, jobs, jobs.

59 Funny,  the only thing bi-partisan is its opposition

60

53 Dreihaus (OH-1) ain't going to his own fundraiser either!

Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 15, 2010 02:03

Driehaus is only playing Pelosi's game. The motherfucker has lied about every other vote in the past.

Do not count him as a "no". He is fucking lying..again

61 The largest Tea Party group hits Congressional offices tomorrow.  Expect a few more Nos.

62 I live in Carney's district.  Just called and gave him kudos. 

Kill this fuckin' thing!

63 This bad news we must do something to save the Biden Adminstration Legacy.......

64

32 Carney's not on Jay Cost's list (realclearpolitics horserace blog) of possible "yes" to "no" votes. Excellent. Excellent. Out of nowhere switch--just what we needed.

If there isn't any reason he did so that is particular to him other than general political pressure, this may be a good indicator.

65 I am so sucking fick of talking about healthcare - this one's a yes, this one's definitely a no, nope, they'll change their mind...GAAAAAH!

I almost wish those congressf*ckers would just vote for it and pass it so we can get on with tossing them out on their @sses.

66 23

Well, fuck me dry! Nachogranny is getting some spotted dick!

67

phoenixrisen:  i live in Dem Perriello's district.  after a hot summer of the most townhalls of any Congressman, he decided that his district really wanted Obamacare (I assure you that he was met with strong, strong opposition at every townhall).  He is Roman Catholic & declared before he  voted on the Stupak amendment that he could not, Never, ever vote for fed funding for abortion.

my gut:  he'll vote Yes.  if nancy needs him, he'll do whatever she wants.  and he will leave office in November.

68 (people are going to die needlessly if we don't pass this)

They're going to die needlessly if they pass it, too.  People dying "needlessly" is pretty much part of the human condition.

69 When he says the time for talk is over, he means it's time for US to shut up, not him. But since when does an American president tell us when we are allowed to talk and what subjects are permissible? He's really saying, "The time for democracy is over. I'll do whatever I want, and I better not hear a word from you stupid peasants." I don't know if I can take three more years of this turd on a stick.

70 I love to see that laser-focus that Hussein is keeping on the jobs issue.

71

Obama's latest speech on the healtcare debate.

 

"Now let me be perfectly clear.  The time for talk is over, which is why I'm giving another speech.  Now we all want Healthcare reform.  Granted, we had to make this event invitation only and only invite the uber-left to make sure we got a room full of people that supported this rancorous turd in a punch bowl that we laughly call health care legislation.  The truth is we don't even really have a bill, we've now have 3 different bills, one that passed the Senate which the House will never pass, one that passed the House that the Senate will never pass, and one that hasn't even been written yet that were going to force through regardless of the fact that this completely violates the Constitution on which our nation was founded.

The Constitution, after all, was written by a bunch of fat white guys.  None of them even play basketball.  What does that have to do with anything?  Nothing, but as usual I'm at that portion of my speech where I throw out a bunch on non-sequiters and you all applaud like the witless, brain dead sheep that you are because you know as long as you do I'll keep all of you on the government gravy train.  That is, afterall, what being in a union is all about.

The thing people have to understand is that were Democrats.  We buy votes.  That's what we do.  We spend hard earned tax payer dollars like drunken sailors so we can assure we keep getting elected.  For a while there we had the Republicans convinced they needed to buy votes to, that they also needed to kiss some good ole MSM bootie so they too could keep getting relected.  But those times have changed.  It looks like their wising up, so were on our own.

So this time I'm going to try something new, I'm going to tell you the truth about my health care plan.  I don't have one, I never did.  I kept making a bunch of phony promises I couldn't keep.  That's what I do.  But now that I've been forced to put forth an actual "plan" of my own I just let Axlerod and his boys write it up and read it off the teleprompter.

Look, it's simple.  Were the government, and were in charge.  If you don't sit down and shut up and just let us take over every aspect of your lives then were going to call you nasty names and eventually we'll really retaliate with the IRS, or whatever means necessary to keep you worthless tea bagging bastards under control. 

Yes, were going to kill grandma.  So what, she's no good to us anymore anyway.  She doesn't produce.  She doesn't pay taxes that we can redistribute for more votes.  She must die.  Don't worry though, we won't kill her outright, we'll just do what all of the other nations with socialized medicine do.  We'll put her on a long waiting list for care, and she'll die waiting.  It's the Candian way.  It's the English way.  Soon it will be the American Way too.

So for the first time, let me really be clear.  I won the election.  Granted I lied my ass off to get here, but I won.  That means I'm in charge.  That means I get my way.  Let's face it, I know whats good for you and you don't.  It's that simple.  You'll love the bill, once we get it passed.  Who cares if anyone knows what's in it.  That doesn't matter.

All that matters is that I get to sign a peace of paper with the words "Health Care Bill" at the top.  All that matters is that we take control of your health care.  So next time we can pass laws against you eating anything other than wheat germ and tofu - since we're paying for your healthcare we can you know.  You shouldn't be allowed to make decisions like what you should eat for yourself anyway.  We know whats good for you, you don't.

So we'll put that evil corporate cabal of fast food out of business.  Pepsi, Coke, Mcdonalds, Burger King.. oh yes, they'll all be on the hit list next.  Who cares about all the jobs lost and what it will do to our economy.  Their evil, just like the health care companies.  And we'll get you on welfare, and let those rich bastards pay for it.  You don't need a job.  We'll take care of you.  We're to government, after all."

Yikes.. ok.. have to stop now.. starting to scare myself. 

72

Obama says the time for talk is over, FNC just took him at his word.

Heh heh heh.

73 Why would Fox cover the speech?  It's not like they're a real news organization or anything...

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