Told you so!! 

Joe the Plumber

correct me if i'm wrong but wouln't it have been easier to tax those wealthy people and give the middle class a major tax cut if their goal was to distribute the wealth? 

why would they need 2000pgs of rules and reg 143 new departments, 16,000 new IRS agents etc etc if this was their goal. 

Sorry but that was not the goal of the HC bill.  the goal of the HC bill is to control the people  period end of story. 

This is simply another effort at framing the debate by the dems. 

#5  i personally think he is the anti-christ.  Or at the very least Stalin reborn

Lucky for us we have brilliant minds like Max Baucus' to tell us when income is mal-distributed.

"Shep's on vacation, or something? Oh please let him be eaten by a yeti or something! I can actually watch the Fox Report when he's not there."

Shep's on "vacation".  Massa has times on his hands.  Coincidence?

Salem,

I wonder if the ratings are higher on the days Trace whatshisface is on instead of Shepster. It has to make a difference.

What have we learned so far? Business will pay more in taxes and will be laying off employees, children with pre-existing conditions aren't covered like they said, rapist can get e.d. pills, it takes a while for govenment to control the people, this is wealth redistribution ect...ect...

Nancy WAS right. We had to pass it to find out what's in it. THANKS NANCY!!!

Posted by: Blackford Oakes at March 25, 2010 07:38 PM (BiCQw)

The Republicans seriously should run on a windfall profits tax on Hollywood. The entertainment industry, with its nepotism, casting coaches, and dirty deals is crony capitalism of exactly the short Hollywood constantly rails against...

Yay Trace!  Sheppie needs a long rest over at Messnbc where he can tingle with Matthews.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at March 25, 2010 07:42 PM (0fzsA)

We've found out in the last year that there are about 3 moderate democrats in Congress.The rest are all leftwing, national socialists.

Hopefully the electorate has learned a valuable lesson.

I have linked to the blog before.  It's good.  This post is about healthcare and it pretty much sums it up.  You will be moved.

http://tinyurl.com/y933335

Man, this health care reform legislation sure is a cure-all.  Control the deficit, create jobs, bend the cost curve, make health care free and close the income gap between the social classes.  The only thing the bill doesn't do is give everybody a complimentary unicorn, but I'm sure Barack, Nancy and Harry are getting right on fixing that little hitch. 

Posted by: Codec717 at March 25, 2010 07:44 PM (DyuqI)

Well there is good rich - we take from other people, and bad rich - they run companies and employee people.

Posted by: nickless at March 25, 2010 07:45 PM (MMC8r)

Hey, we spent years in school learning how we should make you live your lives. We deserve those fat salaries and short hours...

and the middle income class is left behind.

But they are stripping money from the middle class. That's where they are getting almost all of it.

I had one dummy deny on my friend's Facebook page that Obama's a Socialist and, as evidence, linked to an article written by another Socialist saying, "Obama isn't a Socialist."

So I informed him that Barack had once been part of the Socialist New Party and linked the evidence.

All of the sudden this guy backtracks and says he hasn't looked at the evidence closely enough ... doesn't have the time, you see ... but you can't just make sweeping statements about very complex things.

Uh huh. Obama belonged to a Socialist party, was mentored by Marixsts, has sprinkled his administration with Communists, and said to Joe the Plumber that we should "spread the wealth around."

But that's too complex for a leftist pin head to come to a decision on.

Fuckin leftists. Always with the lies. Just own it for once.

Exit question for your obnoxious lefty aquaintances: If this ain't Socialism, what is?

The AP is cheerleading again:

 Democrats near victorious end of health care fight

WASHINGTON – Capping an epic struggle, congressional Democrats applied the final touches Thursday to historic legislation enshrining health care as the right of every citizen. Republicans vowed to campaign for repeal in the fall election season, drawing a quick retort from President Barack Obama: "I welcome that fight."

[...]

Repeal was far-fetched in the extreme, since Republicans are now deep in the minority in both houses and would need a two-thirds majority to overcome a certain veto by Obama.

Plus this gem in Iowa:

President Obama: “So, yes, this is a common-sense bill. It doesn’t do everything that everybody wants, but it moves us in the direction of universal health care coverage in this country and that’s why everybody here fought so hard for it."

This is the one that's really disgusting:

On Tuesday, after a year of debate, a century of trying, after so many of you shared your stories and your heartaches and your hopes, that promise was finally fulfilled. (Applause.) And today, health insurance reform is the law of the land all across America. (Applause.)

AUDIENCE: Yes we did! Yes we did! Yes we did! Yes we did! Yes we did! Yes we did! Yes we did!

OBAMA: ...Leaders of the Republican Party, they called the passage of this bill "Armageddon." (Laughter.) Armageddon. "End of freedom as we know it."

So after I signed the bill, I looked around to see if there any -- (laughter) -- asteroids falling or -- (applause) -- some cracks opening up in the Earth. (Laughter.) It turned out it was a nice day. (Laughter.) Birds were chirping. Folks were strolling down the Mall. People still have their doctors.

Posted by: Max Power

Dude, that's been a done deal for over a decade.

ObamaCare Signing: Ex-Con at the scene of the crime

Convicted felon Robert Creamer, who wrote the blueprint for the Democrats’ health care reform campaign, attended official health care signing celebrations in Washington, D.C. yesterday. He was joined by numerous activists and “community organizers” who have had their sights set on nationalizing health care and have finally achieved it. Creamer’s spouse, Rep. Jan Schakowsky, was one of the bill’s most vociferous proponents.

The Republicans seriously should run on a windfall profits tax on Hollywood.

So after I signed the bill, I looked around to see if there any -- (laughter) -- asteroids falling or -- (applause) -- some cracks opening up in the Earth. (Laughter.) It turned out it was a nice day. (Laughter.) Birds were chirping. Folks were strolling down the Mall. People still have their doctors.

Yeah, people can be crazy about losing their perceived freedoms. They just need to chill. We know what's best for them anyway.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at March 25, 2010 07:54 PM (otlXg)

I believe you are right.  Wasn't the cast of 30 Rock trying to get NY to give them some tax lovin' so they could continue to shoot there?

Obama wants the Republicans to bring it on.  He's taunting.  Like a big kid on a play ground. 

He's arrogant and he thinks he won - again.  He thinks he is unbeatable - again. 

This is really - no shit - a  big  fucking  deal  for him. 

I hope with all that is in me, that on one of these things that "must be done right now or people will die" that he loses, and he loses big.  The he loses in an humiliating way.  I don't say that because I don't like him as a person.  Hell I don't know him as a person.  I'm certain that I wouldn't like him, but that's beside the point.  I want him to lose big to the point of humiliation because I think he is destroying this country.  I want him to lose because hope against hope, I don't think this socialist travesty will be repealed until this country winds up the but of jokes of everyday people in South America just like "banana republic" was for years here.

Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at March 25, 2010 07:55 PM (w8ddH)

I'm thinking more like 90% for any judgments over 100K. Call it a tax on the rich...

Posted by: Rob Crawford at March 25, 2010 07:57 PM (n2wxa)

It does sound better in the original Austrian, doesn't it?

#5  i personally think he is the anti-christ. 

 Posted by: unseen

i think the anti chirst wouldn't need a binky...i mean teleprompter the way the chicago jesus does.

It'd be sweet to see Hollywood out there insisting that lower taxes are good for economic activity.

Wasn't that genius, Alec Baldwin, complaining about NY possibly doing away with tax breaks for his industry?

Do as I say, not as I do.

I hope with all that is in me, that on one of these things that "must be done right now or people will die" that he loses, and he loses big. 

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at March 25, 2010 07:56 PM (r1h5M)

So, have you tried asking liberals that repeat that "must be done right now or people will die" line how they can defend delaying those provisions until 2014 as Obama has done?

I don't respect Obama at all, & the feeling is mutual, looks like. That change from "hopeful" to snide to trash-talking should also be beneath the dignity of the office. Though, considering The Hill reported he loved Joe Biden's remark & thought it was the best part of the bill signing, I'm not surprised. He holds nothing but utter contempt for us.

I think they do, for their own craft.  They shoot their movies in places to get good tax write-offs (like British Columbia).

Michigan seems to have open arms for such things, they make such a big deal out of it too.

i think the anti chirst wouldn't need a binky...i mean teleprompter the way the chicago jesus does.

I dunno, He may need it to keep him on meesage, so he doesn't break out with "to the pits of HELL with you" and start smiting people and stuff....

could hurt the ol' re-election chances.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at March 25, 2010 07:53 PM (yfJ6g)

--Levin was ripping him for that.

Yeah, real fucking funny, asshole.  A laugh riot.

So no earthquakes or meteors, but people losing their jobs is still pretty shitty.

Not that I'm switching teams or anything, but on the bright side:

If Obama is the antichrist I believe that we can rest assured the satan is an idiot.

just sayin'

Posted by: str8 outta monongahela at March 25, 2010 08:02 PM (SlvZ2)

Sorry, you know how it is when you eat a dozen powdered donuts and send your talking points to a bunch of people at once.

I wholly support the GOP doing everything in its power to confiscate the wealth of those in Hollywood, using their own facile bumper sticker sloganeering against them in the process.

Punish them mercilessly. It's time for hardball.

Posted by: str8 outta monongahela at March 25, 2010 08:02 PM (SlvZ2)

Was the building evacuated? That is a sign.

Remember, paying more in taxes is patriotic !!  That's why it's so fun to see politicians tax returns - like gazillionaire John Kerry and the Obamas who give next to nothing to charity, Clintons took deduction for donated clothing, including underwear (if I recall correctly) I'm sure everyone could contibute a story to this list.  How many of them contribute the extra buck to fund presidential campaings? ha, ha,ha. 

Afterall, taxes are for the little people.  Just like obamacare.

Yeah, real fucking funny, asshole.  A laugh riot.

So no earthquakes or meteors, but people losing their jobs is still pretty shitty.

The loss of liberty, and what Pelosi referred to as "kicking the door open to all sorts of new legislation" is even more shitty.

@38: "We've found out in the last year that there are about 3 moderate democrats in Congress.The rest are all leftwing, national socialists."

Just gimme their names. DEAD! DEAD! DEAD!

So no earthquakes or meteors, but people losing their jobs is still pretty shitty.

But only 400,000 or so are consistently losing their jobs every week.

HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN!!!!

The Hill:  President Obama was amused by Joe Biden's "big f---- deal" outburst at Tuesday's healthcare signing ceremony, the VP said last night.

According to a pool report, Biden told the audience at a Baltimore fundraiser that Obama laughed about the remark on Wednesday morning.

“You know what the best thing about yesterday was?" Obama said, according to Biden. "Joe's comment."

Obama even thought about having a t-shirt printed with the phrase printed on the front.

Am I the only one who hears the rhythm of a different chant in that?

Oh, you mean like "Sieg Heil!"?  Yes.  Beginning when he started campaigning for pres.

But only 400,000 or so are consistently losing their jobs every week.

Yes but that was so, unexpected.  I blame Bush.

@38: "Hopefully the electorate has learned a valuable lesson."

Elect the open socialsts so that we can get more free shit, too?

We've found out in the last year that there are about 3 moderate democrats in Congress.

We found out last weekend that there are NO moderate democrats in Congress.

Last year, one of my doctors stated how disgusted he was by the Obama Care debacle. I was surprised, because he's such a soft-spoken man, but he was exceptionally angry. "How'd the president like to work for free? Let's see him try that." I have to say, I'm rather worried he's going to quit.

@40: "If he's so concerned about unfair distribution of wealth, he can introduce legislation to bring the average federal worker's salary down to the median level of us proles here in the wasteland."

Um...that kind of assumes that you're both using the same definition of "unfair distribution of wealth".  I suspect that you're not.  See that money in your pocket and bank account that isn't in his?  Unfair.  He got elected. What have you ever done to be allowed to keep any of the government's money?

Posted by: nickless at March 25, 2010 08:15 PM (MMC8r)

Loved that guy.

@42: "Problem is, this isn't the third world, and if you fuck with Americans enough, there's still enough patriotism and freedom in this country that no good, and unfortunately  much blood, will likely come of it."

I'll take that bet.

That Obama rally shot was cropped reeeeeally close. Wonder what he's drawing these days.

We will never, ever see him give a speech in front of the general public.  That would be too humiliating to Dear Leader.  When he and the dems feel confident enough to give a speech in a venue open to everyone, then this country really is doomed.

First they gain power, tear-down the current system, then create their utopia.

"First you get the money, then you get the power, then you get the woman!" - Tommy Woo

I need the horned chinese woman's skills to get the accent correct but I think this is right. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2010 08:15 PM (UOM4

I posted this the other day but no one seemed interested in it.  This is in the HC bill:

16 ‘‘SEC. 203. COMMISSIONED CORPS AND READY RESERVE
17 CORPS.
18 ‘‘(a) ESTABLISHMENT.—
19 ‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—There shall be in the Service
20 a commissioned Regular Corps and a Ready Reserve
21 Corps for service in time of national emergency.
22 ‘‘(2) REQUIREMENT.—All commissioned officers
23 shall be citizens of the United States and shall be ap24
pointed without regard to the civil-service laws and

http://tinyurl.com/yjezpa3

Starts towards the bottom of page 1312 and continues on for several pages.

The real anti-christ would be a lot cooler than Obama. Someone you might want to have a beer and a burger with.

Like Biden?

OBLIGATORY /SARC

 54% of respondents

Respondents?  Never heard of them.

138 113 Wait until you see how bad it gets.  Up here in the land of socialized healthcare I have no family doctor but I'm on the 2 year waiting list.  We're filling up our medical schools with foreign students because the smart people here would rather go into law or engineering or anything but medicine.  Get a medical degree here and you have to work for the state.

Can't wait. /s/ We are so incredibly screwed.

PS: I'm sorry you have to deal with all that.  

Posted by: Blackford Oakes at March 25, 2010 07:48 PM (BiCQw)

OMG.. are freakin kidding me?   

typical Obama voter.

Re-distribute this assholes!

Oh, wait, I'm online you can't see my rude finger gesture can you?

67 Convicted felon Robert Creamer, who wrote the blueprint for the Democrats’ health care reform campaign, attended official health care signing celebrations in Washington, D.C. yesterday. He was joined by numerous activists and “community organizers” who have had their sights set on nationalizing health care and have finally achieved it. Creamer’s spouse, Rep. Jan Schakowsky, was one of the bill’s most vociferous proponents.

Very interesting!!  The link at Big Government was written by Joel Pollak, a republican who is running for the 9th congressional seat in Illinois.  Who currently holds that seat you ask?  Rep Jan Schakowsky!!!!

Robert Creamer, Jan Schakowsky's husband, went to prison for kiting checks.  As I remember it, he pleaded guilty.  The money he stole from the check kiting went to his non-profit organization. 

History on Joel Pollak - last year during the financial crises, Barney Frank made an appearance at Harvard and was talkin trash about how it was all everybody elses fault, and that he Barney Frank had nothing to do with it.  Joel Pollak at that point was a 3rd year law student, and he's the one who raised his hand and started questioning Frank.  Of course Barney got all flustered and attacked him (I'm sure he thought it would be a friendly crowd at Harvard Law, not a crowd hiding a closet republican).  The video is at YouTube, and Fox had him on later that week to talk about it.  I can never get stuff to imbed right so I'm not going to try.

Here's a link to Joel Pollak's campaign website. Hope it works:

http://tinyurl.com/ygl8cff

@84: "He holds nothing but utter contempt for us."

Bitch, please.  I don't think enough of you to even bother holding you in contempt.  That I don't have you all killed shows the measure of My munificence: I allow you to exist in My presence on My planet. 

Posted by: steevy at March 25, 2010 07:48 PM (pihsu)

If he's winning it's because of the work of others or because he'll only play bigger losers than he is.  Chances are he's no fucking good because otherwise we'd get never-ending MSM coverage.  Scrub on some horseshit Hawaiian high school team; smoking cigs continually plus he's a lazy POS.  His game probably makes Bo's shit smell like ambrosia.

Have you noticed Obama only gives speeches about health care on college campuses and most of the students love them some health care. It's almost like they don't even know that they are the ones that are going to be paying for us old farts. I am sure someone like their professors or the media has explained that to them but they act like they love it.

153 It's scary, isn't it? 

"We must all hang together, or most assuredly, we shall all hang separately." ~Benjamin Franklin

I would tweak this (the meaning) so that we remember we should be united in whatever response we take with regards to Obama Care. We can't have rogue citizens randomly taking shots at public officials. It does no good & invalidates & weakens our cause. First & foremost, we concentrate on the ballot box.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at March 25, 2010 08:17 PM (yfJ6g)

? I see no "top post" when I get there.

@91: "If Obama is the antichrist I believe that we can rest assured the satan is an idiot"

Um, I got the levers of power, and an army of devoted followers willing to kill or die for My Glory.  In very short order, I will have all of your money and control over whether you live or die.  What the Hell else does Soros Satan need to give me?  Given that I didn' really even bother to hide who I am, 52% of your countrymen are the idiots.

what is this "left behind" language supposed to mean? lol!

Ask Tim Lahaye.

Word. When the shizzy hits the fan, I'm outta here, yo.

neither the late great Ted nor his mother Rose paid what the D-rats like to call "their fair share" in estate taxes;

When Rose died, she had been in MA for many years, had not left MA for at least the last 10 years of her life.  HOWEVER, after her death, Teddy tried to get her declared a resident of Florida, because Florida does not have the same death tax structure as MA.

165 Gawd I'm just exhausted from meeting with the Jewish Cabal today.
Must pencil in some time off soon.

I LOLed.

Seriously, though, I'm sorry you must put up with all that. Admire you for having a sense of humor about it.   

Have you noticed Obama only gives speeches about health care on college campuses and most of the students love them some health care. It's almost like they don't even know that they are the ones that are going to be paying for us old farts. I am sure someone like their professors or the media has explained that to them but they act like they love it.

I don't know, I'm pretty sure most professors have not explained it to them.

But it's all good because "children" who go to college can be carried by their parents until the grow up, around age 26.

Until the parents' employers drop health insurance benefits and then they can go on Healthfare.

@117: "hahahaha, that's right, McPainintheass, the Obama admin thinks you're a fucking joke."

Okay, so that's one thing where Obama has his finger on the pulse of America. 

It may have been posted and I overlooked it, but this is the Sharpton clip I mentioned.

Again, in case no one has said it in the last 5 minutes or so...

Thank you. Thanks, again, to all of you who stayed home in order to teach the Republicans a lesson.

183 In periods where democrats institute more social welfare, the status of most poor never improve. 
The governmetn gets rich, but we the people just get poorer.

Isn't there that apocryphal remark about a leader from a communist country who, asked for one accomplishment, & said that they had "managed to distribute poverty equally"?

I LOLed.

Seriously, though, I'm sorry you must put up with all that. Admire you for having a sense of humor about it.  

If he's winning it's because of the work of others or because he'll only play bigger losers than he is.  Chances are he's no fucking good because otherwise we'd get never-ending MSM coverage.  Scrub on some horseshit Hawaiian high school team; smoking cigs continually plus he's a lazy POS.  His game probably makes Bo's shit smell like ambrosia.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 25, 2010 08:36 PM (ZxEhm)

--The motherfucker has a ball with his own fucking logo on it!

Tank,

That was a poor attempt at snark on my part. They don't have a frigging clue what their Messiah just got them into. In the new health care bill there is no premium deduction or addition because of age. They will be paying the same premium that I do.

That hits them in a couple of ways, it lessens the cost of an employer to hire a more experienced worker and it lowers their salary if they do get a job.

Staying on their parents health care only works if they live in their parents house and their parents agree to it. It's a talking point but not a very good one.

173 133 ? I see no "top post" when I get there.

Probably should have been more specific. It's now the 2nd-to-top right-hand corner post beneath the Headlines section. First word: "Poll...", then lists results. Obama still beats Romney but 54% of respondents think Obama will lose in 2012.

robtr  - Thanks, you're right.  I can remember a couple of non-leftist college professors and I know it's gotten much worse since then.  I've got a couple of nieces and nephews who were raised on the liberal mantra.  Boy was it funny to hear them complain when the received their first paycheck and "a whole lot of money was missing"  they didn't sign up for all those taxes to be taken out!!! 

President or impetuous child - your call.

This is stark -  http://tinyurl.com/ygbt4eg

and not at all flattering toward "the leader of the free world".

Solomonia

@138:" Get a medical degree here and you have to work for the state."

No such worries down here.  Gummint jobs are the only jobs that pay anymore.  People will be begging for the opportunity.

Posted by: vai2112 at March 25, 2010 08:40 PM (TcILN)

@153: "Little abandoned by his mother, raised by Marxist grandparents, Barry Soetero, would never wish ill on his country, would he?"

Define "his" country.  He doesn't view America as "his." Well, maybe he views it as "his" insofar as he believes that he *rules* it, but he definitely doesn't view it as being his home.

It's embarrassing that we're not as advanced as Europe.

Grace, I had to laugh at that one.  How many of them have been there?  Advanced in what ways I wonder? 

187 They're banking on Death Panels to take out all those hate mongering elderly burdens.

That video is ridiculous & obscene. Wish I didn't have to calll those kids my peers. They don't speak for me--at all.

I wonder when they will start to talk about the 401k plans and getting their hands all over them.

/Oops. Ignore the 3x "l".

My generation shouldn't be so snide. That video just reeks of arrogance & disrespect. However, it does look like the Baby Boomers fostered the same spirit in their kids & grandkids that they kept alive during the '60s. If I believed in karma...

@172: "First & foremost, we concentrate on the ballot box."

First, the soap box

Second, the ballot box

Third, the jury box

Fourth, the cartridge box.

Unfortunately, we're probably down to options 3 and 4 at this point.  Even if the GOP wins in November, so what?  The economy will be so bad that their only options will be to cut services and raise taxes.  Voters will just love that, and you know who the media will blame (and they'll be at least partly correct - the GOP has been pretty disastrous at handling the economy, too).  That brings the Dems back to power in short order, and the Glorious Socialist Utopia becomes reality.   

Posted by: grace at March 25, 2010 08:55 PM (Exq1l)

Study hard Grace, you are going to be left with alot of government debt and government obligations to fund.

Posted by: tank at March 25, 2010 08:57 PM (y3seB)

Well, a couple of them insisted that the nationalized health care systems there work perfectly fine and that anyone who says differently is just a shill for the insurance companies (when do I get my check?!). So if they've visited, they evidently have not stayed that long.

Posted by: ErikW at March 25, 2010 09:02 PM (JImkA)

How's your spanish? You could be a doctor in Cuba.

I wonder when they will start to talk about the 401k plans and getting their hands all over them.

Posted by: tank at March 25, 2010 08:59 PM (y3seB)

Andy Stern, president of the SEIU just gave a speech on that today or yesterday. He said it's coming. I don't remember where I saw it but you can bing it.

Well, a couple of them insisted that the nationalized health care systems there work perfectly fine and that anyone who says differently is just a shill for the insurance companies (when do I get my check?!). So if they've visited, they evidently have not stayed that long.

Well if they want to pay massive tax rates and get shitty care then they should be all over it.   The rich in Europe still have great care, they very often come to the US for it.  If you are rich after paying your taxes you can buy private insurance and go to private hospitals.

And don't forget the clinics you can go to to kill yourself. 

Have you noticed Obama only gives speeches about health care on college campuses and most of the students love them some health care. It's almost like they don't even know that they are the ones that are going to be paying for us old farts. I am sure someone like their professors or the media has explained that to them but they act like they love it.

@210: "probably time to face it, tyranny is staring Americans right in the eyes"

In the eyes?  Why - are you looking over your shoulder to see who's giving you the old Ned - Beatty - in - Deliverance treatment?

How's your spanish? You could be a doctor in Cuba.

I learned Spanish when I worked in golf and trust me, what I used there wasn't suitable for medical applications.

221 In the video, they brag about how unlike any previous generation they are. 

They're right.  We're apparently the first generation to go full retard.  I'm not sure what that's worthy of a slick youtube propaganda film, but obviously, some of us "get it."  Maybe they're just a little slower than us?

Yet my peers complain to me about their taxes. At least the ones at my alma mater got it, though. But maybe the reality of this will hit the rest of our generation when they're 20-30? One can only hope.  

Posted by: someguy at March 25, 2010 09:14 PM (VRJIW)

Our socialist government in the state of washington is on the verge of passing a 10% sales tax on gold bullion. They don't understand that we buy it for an investment and not because it's shiny.

Posted by: vai2112 at March 25, 2010 09:02 PM (TcILN)

Ugh, tell me about it. My classmates are all idiots, and I've lost count of the lies my professors have told (whether they're intentionally telling them, or just passing it along, I don't know). Their mindset is, well, mind-boggling. One time, when we were discussing the Civil War, one of the kids said that the poor of America were basically slaves to the capitalist system or some bullshit like that.

I'm an English major, so...I'm starting to doubt whether going through this is worth it or not. I'm only a sophomore, so I haven't invested as much time in this cesspool called "higher education" as you have.

So at work today the obamanuts finally started talking.  Pretty quiet earlier in the week, perhaps they were afraid of upsetting the few "non-leftists" in the office.  Today I guess they figured we weren't going over the deep end becuase we continued to show up at work.

"The republicans are inciting violence never before seen in American politics."

"The republicans are going to challenge it because they claim the vote was illegal but you can't force someone to vote yes."  This one almost provoked me to responde - WTF!!!!!  You can't force someone to vote yes but you can bribe them.  And what the fuck do you mean by challenging it because the vote was illegal?  No idea but I think perhaps this person was referencing the "deem and pass" scenario that wasn't used.  Same person spouted one of those talking point talk radio scripts at lunch.

BARF.  I keep my mouth shut because the WOULD find a way to fire me if they knew how I really felt. 

Re-distribute this assholes!

Oh, wait, I'm online you can't see my rude finger gesture can you?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at March 25, 2010 08:24 PM (RZ8pf)

may I suggest ascii finger? ,,|,,

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at March 25, 2010 09:19 PM (otlXg)

Their asses.

"Even if the GOP wins in November, so what? "

Let the GOP get close w/o winning either House in 2010.  Let the Diums and Oblunder still own it.  Then sweep all three in 2012.

Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at March 25, 2010 09:04 PM (hCQG5)

yep, there's only so much NY a red stater at heart can take in one lifetime.

Alinskybama overwhelming the system.

@225: "So you're advocating what, exactly? I know what our options could be in TX, but what about the rest of the country? You have to "win" the rebellion before you can have a revolution. Would these other states be self-sustaining if they won independence?"

Not advocating anything. 52% of America voted for national socialism, and they're gonna get it, right along with the rest of us.  The soap box hasn't stopped it.  The ballot box hasn't stopped it.  I don't really ever see the American public opting for the jury box, but who knows.  That pretty much leaves the cartridge box.  While there is probably enough anger for a rebellion/revolution/restoration/what have you, but there isn't really anyone to lead it, or to rebuild after.

There is, of course, the unspoken 5th box - and the one that I suspect that America will opt for: the "sit there and take it" box.  I figure we'll get a lot of violence in small doses for a while, an economic collapse, and a national socialst state on the other side of it.  And most of us will sit there and take it.

>>Posted by: grace at March 25, 2010 09:17 PM (Exq1l)

Oh my, English major? I get a little respite in my program since it's a Graphic Design program, not all my classes are sitting in lectures listening to leftist drivel. I look forward to my technical courses, since it's all work and no "theory". Since I'm in the final drive of my degree, all I've got left are "academic" lecture courses and they are driving me nuts.

True story, today in Art History, my professor equated Conservatives to the Nazis of WWII. I wanted to walk out so badly.

You're in enemy camp, so keep your head down and take lots of notes. Might come in handy one day soon.

Don't I know it Someguy!!  I do keep my thoughts to myself.  Got a bumpersticker at a St. Patrick's Day parade "vote republican for a brighter future"  - just wish it was one of those magnetic things that I could take off when I park at work!

True story, today in Art History, my professor equated Conservatives to the Nazis of WWII. I wanted to walk out so badly.

Posted by: vai2112 at March 25, 2010 09:25 PM (TcILN)

when you're done, and you have your piece of paper in your hand that says you're now legally smart, walk up to that fuck, and tell him loudly, "you are about as full of shit as it is humanly possibly to be."

266 You post fills me with hope. /s/ Now I feel like I'm witnessing Revelation 18:

 ²And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

 ³For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

 ⁷How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

 ⁸Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

 ⁹And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

 ¹⁰Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

It goes on & gets worse, but you get the picture.

How writing fiction has helped me craft history.

Ha, ha, ha.  How absolutely telling.  How exactly does one "craft" history?

Must work for a textbook publisher, you should see how pathetic some of the texts used in schools today are!

Posted by: Blackford Oakes at March 25, 2010 09:23 PM (BiCQw)

Dude, and see how I'm dying my hair purple, like, uh, everyone else? Shows how individual I am. Oh, and want to see the piercings I got? Like, I don't want to be the only one without a bolt dude. Then the other cool, like, radically individual people wouldn't want to hang with me.

279   We haven't had a national election yet. And in the off-year elections in VA and MA, we kicked ass. So I think your premise is based on shakey ground there.

True, that.

@247: "Our socialist government in the state of washington is on the verge of passing a 10% sales tax on gold bullion. They don't understand that we buy it for an investment and not because it's shiny."

You're close to Canada.  Go there to buy, then deposit it in the Bank of Gaia as soon as you get home.

Posted by: Blackford Oakes at March 25, 2010 09:33 PM (BiCQw)

Yeah, I've got video capabilities on my phone finally. I think it's time for a little pushback.

293 #282  So hopeful, eh?  I think there's some stuff to precede that, though.

Escatologically, politically, or both? I say both.

True story, today in Art History, my professor equated Conservatives to the Nazis of WWII. I wanted to walk out so badly.

One of my daughters is really getting educated in this crap too, but in highschool.  We talk a lot in our home about politics, history, etc.  So far not too much indoctrination.  They have to have always have a book available for  silent reading and so far this year she's taken  among others "Going Rogue" by Sarah Palin, "Culture of Corruption" by Michelle Malkin, "Slobbering Love Affair"  by Bernard Goldberg, "Shut Up and Sing" by Laura Ingraham.  I've told her she may lose some of her friends because of their families' uber liberal stances (witness the defriending on Facebook described here among adults!).  She doesn't give a shit.  I'm so proud and sometimes I wonder where she got the strength and fortitude.  Hope it continues as I think she will need it!!!

Posted by: someguy at March 25, 2010 09:26 PM (VRJIW)

He can't do it, I didn't read the article but someone is full of shit. He can force fanny and freddy to because the government basically owns them now but the regional banks will tell him to go piss up a rope. The regionals fought hard not to take tarp funds because they knew this socialist prick would try to control them more. He can threaten them with more FDIC investigations but that would pretty much get him arrested, if we still have police.

@277: True story, today in Art History, my professor equated Conservatives to the Nazis of WWII. I wanted to walk out so badly.

Walk out? Nah, prove him right.  Invade his house, take all of his stuff, and send his family off to the camps.  Liberals love to be proven correct.  The Right should be far more accomodating in that regard.

Posted by: Andy Rand at March 25, 2010 09:35 PM (mhD2v)

he also did amazing well in the drool cup wearing, feces eating, slackjawed mouthbreathing demographic. Amazingly enough, that number happens to be FiftyTwo Percent of the population. Like yourself for example. Now go get your fuckin' shinebox.

@279: "We haven't had a national election yet. And in the off-year elections in VA and MA, we kicked ass. So I think your premise is based on shakey ground there."

Really? Let's see...since I've been alive, we've had one national election every four years for president, two years for the Congress.  Other than 1980 and 1984, which were, at best, bulwarks against further deterioration, socialism has gained pretty much every time.

And yeah, so much ass was kicked in VA and MA that we were assured that ObamaCare was dead, dead, dead.  Good thing it got voted down; I'd hate to see the socialist victory tour continue.....

IF the ratchet on socialist bullshit wasn't only one way - ever more to the Left - then maybe the ballot box would be effective.  But it isn't, so it isn't.

250

That's what I'm saying, FORGET ABOUT Frum, he ain't writing any laws. you can fight the enemy inside the barrier all you want, but unless you are defeating democrats in the process you might as well sit home pullenurpud. you have to unelect democrats. you can't unelect Frum.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at March 25, 2010 09:42 PM (QM4dE)

No offense taken, just letting you know. BTW, thanks for your service, I've got a cousin who's Airborne Ranger and did 3 tours. I've gotten into a few scraps defending him, and only directly got into one with a professor during the 08 Campaign, I had a professor with a hard-on for Obama and deciding that every class period was a justifiable excuse to tell us that Hillary should drop out for Obama. One day I was fed up and said it's a free country she can run if she wants. He accused me of being a Hillary supporter and I told him actually I'm a Ron Paul supporter. That shut him up, but I wasn't allowed to speak in class after that. If I raised my hand, he picked the person next to/behind me. I love telling that story.

@282: "You post fills me with hope. /s/"

The man The GOD in the White House sells hope.  I don't.  I lost mine after working for the GOP in Congress back in '97-'98.  Watching the GOP at work, even then, I got the definite sense that the country was doomed - the GOP simply didn't have the will or inclination to stop what was coming as the Dems purged their moderates.

As Sam Elliott's General Buford said in Gettysburg:

"You know whats going to happen here in the morning? The whole damn Reb army is going to be here. They'll move through this town, occupy these hills on the other side, and when our people get here, Lee will have the high ground. There will be the devil to pay! The high ground! Meade will come in slowly, cautiously. New to command. They'll be on his back in Washington. Wire hot with messages: 'Attack! Attack!'. So he will set up a ring around these hills. And when Lee's army is nicely entrenched behind fat rocks on the high ground, Meade will finally attack, if he can coordinate the army. Straight up the hillside, out in the open, in that gorgeous field of fire. We will charge valiantly... and be butchered valiantly! And afterwards men in tall hats and gold watch fobs will thump their chest and say what a brave charge it was. Devin, I've led a soldier's life, and I've never seen anything as brutally clear as this."

Buford was wrong, but only because he, Reynolds, and Hancock didn't dawdle and actually fought.  The GOP lacks a Buford, Reynolds, or Hancock.  Hell, we don't even have someone with Pickett's reckless courage.

Posted by: Blackford Oakes at March 25, 2010 08:10 PM (BiCQw)

Conservatives4Palin could tell you. They're quite competitive, plus they loathe him. That's why I visit them so much.

True story, today in Art History, my professor equated Conservatives to the Nazis of WWII. I wanted to walk out so badly.

One of my daughters is really getting educated in this crap too, but in highschool.  We talk a lot in our home about politics, history, etc.  So far not too much indoctrination.  They have to have always have a book available for  silent reading and so far this year she's taken  among others "Going Rogue" by Sarah Palin, "Culture of Corruption" by Michelle Malkin, "Slobbering Love Affair"  by Bernard Goldberg, "Shut Up and Sing" by Laura Ingraham.  I've told her she may lose some of her friends because of their families' uber liberal stances (witness the defriending on Facebook described here among adults!).  She doesn't give a shit.  I'm so proud and sometimes I wonder where she got the strength and fortitude.  Hope it continues as I think she will need it!!!

Posted by: tank at March 25, 2010 09:37 PM (y3seB)

When I was in a high school, a couple of years ago, we read Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the United States" and watched Micheal Moore movies *spits*. I live in the Bay Area. I was a starry-eyed, leftist, brain-dead sheep in order to fit in with the people around me, but deep down I knew it was all crap. I was lying to myself. But one day I realized that I was being an idiot and a coward, and that I really shouldn't give a shit about what those people thought of me. It can be hard sometimes, since the people around here consider conservatives to be pure evil. But really, the opinions of the libtards don't have much if any value, so who gives a damn what they think? Your daughter is brave to bring those books to class, good for her for being so secure in herself and her beliefs! Yes, she'll definitely need it, especially in the days to come, 'cause it isn't going to be pretty.

Those kiddies on that video are an excellent advertisement for the benefits of spanking your children and making them mind.  Let's face it Boomers and X'ers, Dr. Spock and all those "I'm ok, you're ok" experts on child raising were full of crap -- and now we will all pay for it (fyi: I'm one of those 'tweeners that fell between the boom and the x...and am now directly behind the eight ball).

Not that I would do anything of the sort.; I would never touch a hair on my little precious' darling heads and tell them they are wonderful to bolster their self-esteem on a daily basis.

 But one day I realized that I was being an idiot and a coward, and that I really shouldn't give a shit about what those people thought of me.

Good for you Grace and good luck!!!

...Sesame Street was scripted by a bunch of subversive commies. 

Still is I'd venture to guess.  Remember the  "Say Hola instead of Hello" song?

Posted by: Blackford Oakes at March 25, 2010 09:33 PM (BiCQw)

Some other ideas: Get conservative faculty to sit in on these classes and snicker or fight back.  Tenure works both ways.  And their grade doesn't suffer.

In some cases, you might be able to make a case to get the FEC on their ass for an in-kind campaign contribution.  You'd have to have the video and you'd probably lose the case, but you could start up a stink.

If anybody can shake up the politicized humanities, Breitbart can.

Captain Kangaroo and Mr. GreenJeans were pitching independence and self sufficiency to little kids

Loved those guys!!!

For as arrogant as you are, it is all too apparent that you are insecure and full of bitterness.

Mega dittoes to that sentiment!!!

@331: "I'm confident they'll appear, as such men/women always do...at our darkest moment of need."

Maybe, if we get lucky.  There are some in the GOP who seem promising - if they don't go native.  Plus, the GOP has to simply learn to embrace the fact that the media is against them, and not worry about it.  Relish the black hat, and mock the guys who try to attack them.

I've been so furious, I've been just incapable of talking about it with anyone. And then seeing the dem's spin, their sudden attempt to criminalize people who disagree. The smug smarminess as the Party Politburo Elite like Frau Pelosi, et al, rubbed their successful bribery, lies, and power usurpation in our faces - it suddenly felt like they're telling us to "shut up, peasant" or we'll taste the lash. They've taken the MSM, utterly. They can whip up any lie they want, they can force anything through they just figured out, and they have no limits on them.

They're trying to make us into peasants, serfs, and slaves. They see anyone to the right of Sinclair Lewis to be illiterate subhumans. It's obvious, look at them attempt to paint normal Americans as bloodthirsty savages. This is what they do. This is how they always operate. This is how the Hard Left starts to choose the victims.

When someone as staid, unflappable, and rather boring as John Hindraker at Powerline says

It is important for the Democrats and their press minions to understand that there are many millions of Americans who regard Obamacare not just as misguided public policy, but as an illegitimate usurpation of power. I am one of the many millions who are outraged at the Left's attempt to destroy the private health care system that has served my family so well, and who regard Obamacare as illegitimate.

Then I think it's a hell of a larger issue than the MSM, Politburo, and Administration are thinking. In fact, because of what they are (divorced from American ideals and love of country) means that they really can't understand what they've gone and done. They probably do think that it's no big deal. And I am afraid they'll continue in the same manner which will ultimately go very bad - inevitably bad.

This isn't necessarily a slam dunk. BO says 'go for it' because he knows when we do his base out will come out to vote. He needs to get his base out to stem the losses. There will be Dem losses but the passage of the health care take over makes taking the House more difficult. Their base is going to be fired up to protect it. However if we don't go for it our base won't come out. Besides it's the right thing to do.

So the question is how do we go for it, depress the looney left and win back the House all at the same time?

We'll see you in the next election, and when it's all over don't let the White House door hit you on the tuckus on the way out.

P.S. Sneak out the back door in shame for what you've done. 

I could be wrong, but it seems to me that the real beneficiaries of this new healthcare legislation will be the healthcare industry; i.e., corporations comprised mostly of doctors and other entrepreneurs, who own and in some cases operate hospitals, rehabilitation clinics, nursing homes, walk-in clinics, private duty nursing agencies, etc., which have been stiffed for many years by people who couldn't afford to pay for the services which they received, or who were turned away, depriving those corporations of those revenues, too.

In fact, contrary to what the disingenuous propogandists are saying, all doctors will profit big time from this legislation. Watch: They will be charging even more for their services than they are already charging now. This legislation will be  a windfall for doctors, as if they aren't wealthy enough already, and so medical costs will continue to skyrocket out of control.

Think about it. It won't be the indigent who will benefit. It will be the corporations and individual doctors, who, I suspect, own Democrats, who don't do anything for anybody, unless they have something to gain from it for themselves, like pay-offs under the table. Democrats don't do anything for anybody out of the goodness of their hearts.

Dear Employees:

As the CEO of this organization, I have resigned myself to the fact that Barrack Obama is our President and that our taxes and government fees will increase by about 10%. But since we cannot increase our prices right now due to the dismal state of the economy, we will have to lay off sixty of our employees instead. This has really been bothering me since I believe we are family here and I didn;t know how to choose who would have to go.

So, this is what I did. I walked through our parking lots and found sixty 'Obama bumper stickers on our employee's cars and have decided these folks will be the ones to let go. I can't think of a more fair way to approach this problem. They voted for change....I gave it to them.

I will see the rest of you at the annual company picnic.

THE BOSS

don at March 26, 2010 11:14 AM (YmvLJ)

P.S. HOPE you find the CHANGE in employment to your liking.

#368/#369

Don,

I want to know how you intercepted my internal memo to my employees.  By the way, it's not just '60' jobs; we're currently investigating 'off shore' opportunities.