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April 26, 2010

Obama Admin Buried Report on Cost of ObamaCare Until After Vote
— Gabriel Malor

Whoa! That report from the Medicare actuaries released last week that concluded ObamaCare would raise premiums? The Obama Administration had it a week before the final vote...and sat on it:

The economic report released last week by Health and Human Services, which indicated that President Barack Obama's health care "reform" law would actually increase the cost of health care and impose higher costs on consumers, had been submitted to the office of HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius more than a week before the Congressional votes on the bill, according to career HHS sources, who added that Sebelius's staff refused to review the document before the vote was taken.
"The reason we were given was that they did not want to influence the vote," says an HHS source. "Which is actually the point of having a review like this, you would think."

Apparently, copies of the report were sent to Sebelius and to the White House.

So in addition to midnight votes and bribes to reluctant Congressmen, the Obama folks sat on government reports, reports that the taxpayers paid for, which would have shined a light on the President's healthcare reform lies. And that's what they were. He can't plead ignorance. His own actuaries were telling him it would raise premiums while he was going on TV and saying the opposite.

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Posted by: navycopjoe at April 26, 2010 08:25 PM (gg4j2)

whoa, i got a first! FIRST!!!!!!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 26, 2010 08:26 PM (gg4j2)

So, Obama is a liar.

In other breaking news, water is wet.

Posted by: gebrauchshund at April 26, 2010 08:26 PM (d7k0J)

4 And shit stinks.

Posted by: gebrauchshund at April 26, 2010 08:26 PM (d7k0J)

5 Brought to you by the campaign that didn't have any security measures in place when taking credit card donations online. Remember our motto: "Nothing to see here, we won".

Posted by: Prez BO at April 26, 2010 08:27 PM (Br8qX)

6 How many times does this clown have to be shown to be a LIAR before the MSM catches on?

Posted by: GarandFan at April 26, 2010 08:27 PM (6mwMs)

back on topic this will turn into nothing fast, he'll just toss Sebelius under the bus and the media will blow it off after a few days for the evil happening in arizona

maybe the rnc will push this towards the elections.....

maybe i'll get my unicorn too

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 26, 2010 08:28 PM (gg4j2)

8 _{Nothing to see here, folks. Move along, move along.}

Posted by: msm at April 26, 2010 08:28 PM (aag4W)

9 6 i don't think they make computers that strong to come up with that number

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 26, 2010 08:29 PM (gg4j2)

10 The MFM will be reporting this soon, I'm sure. Right after they've reported the GM repayment is bullshit story.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 26, 2010 08:29 PM (ocax6)

11 The truth is not in him.

Posted by: Hexenkessel at April 26, 2010 08:29 PM (Qi5EW)

12 HAHA!

FUCK YOU RUBES!

Posted by: Democrat Congresscritter at April 26, 2010 08:31 PM (gAmQ1)

13 Change!

(Somebody had to say it.)

Posted by: Miss Fluffy McNutter at April 26, 2010 08:31 PM (xMSXs)

It's a shame I'm not surprised...

Posted by: Debbie at April 26, 2010 08:32 PM (oHUi9)

15 I am not going to say the obvious thing here. It has become redundant. Whatever flaw in the American psyche allowed this man/group to come in to power needs to be exposed. I am past the point of trying to explain the corruption pouring out of this WHite House. People that are predisposed to like Obama will not entertain the idea that he is not what they thought. It is more comforting to them to believe we are what they thought and he is a good man. We need to see past the facade. Obama's character is the issue. The electorate will not truly pivot until he is exposed. I think the man is dirty but the Republicans don't want to seem a racist in going after him. It is pivotal that he be tied to the Chicago gang. I know the media is complicit in the charade. But he is no Bill Clinton only moving the country gradually to the left.

Posted by: Locus Ceruleus at April 26, 2010 08:33 PM (tzcjs)

We'd never screw with the public's sacred right to know like that!!

Oh. Wait...

Posted by: New York Times at April 26, 2010 08:34 PM (qhHI4)

17 We'll get right on it.
Right after we do 10 more hit pieces on you teabaggers.

Posted by: The Mother Fucking Media at April 26, 2010 08:34 PM (E5V01)

18 If you like your Death Panel you can keep it.

Posted by: Easy Bake at April 26, 2010 08:37 PM (6tqEs)

19 Imagine if the Bush Administration had...

Posted by: davidt at April 26, 2010 08:38 PM (aag4W)

Making legislation is like making a tasty sausage. You put skin and blood and insects and rat feces into a filthy pig's rectum and twist it up real nice and tight, and the next thing you know, you have a wonderful bag of biohazard that requires a special EPA license to dispose of it.

Posted by: Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D) at April 26, 2010 08:40 PM (qhHI4)

21 Quit crying you dumb white racist crackers!

Posted by: B. Obama at April 26, 2010 08:41 PM (Tfuib)

22 After Scott Brown showed up they had to use reconciliation, which is only allowed if the bill reduces the budget. Am I wrong? and on this technicality can it be tossed?

Posted by: elloit m at April 26, 2010 08:46 PM (RB5UU)

23 You don't have to spin something you never mention.

Posted by: MSM at April 26, 2010 08:46 PM (6tqEs)

24 Ya know...it's just another in a long string of documents that is kept in the dark from the American people: School records, video tapes....now a report on the actual costs of health care.

With all of the things that Obama likes to keep hidden, I'm starting to think that maybe there is some validity to his fear of releasing his birth certificate. What other conclusion can I draw, hmmm?

Posted by: Miss Cleo at April 26, 2010 08:46 PM (pq986)

25 "We know a copy was sent to the White House via their legislative affairs staff," says the HHS staffer, "and there were a number of meetings here almost right after the analysis was submitted to the secretary's office. Everyone went into lockdown, and people here were too scared to go public with the report."

emphasis mine.

Gangsters have taken over the government.

Posted by: davidt at April 26, 2010 08:47 PM (aag4W)

26 This administration just makes up numbers on the fly, and no thinking human thought a government-run program wasn't going to cost a hell of a lot more than their wildest estimates, so i wonder that any of this matters. I think a bigger concern is what a bunch of worthless whores the legacy media has become -- apologies to any useless whores i may have offended. And they will pick that burbling idiot Huckleberry to be the next GOP presidential candidate, just like they did with McCain. The only bright side to all this is i got so sick of it all i got rid of my cable TV. I miss hockey but i do like not paying the idiot bastards at Comcast $60 a month. Now I spend the money on ammo and going to the range more often. Always a bright side i say.

Posted by: KilltheHippies at April 26, 2010 08:47 PM (VKfXw)

27 I like it.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at April 26, 2010 08:47 PM (6tqEs)

28 Not only does it mean he's lying when he open his lips, but when Obama EVEN THINKS, it means he is in the act of lying!

Posted by: jlfintx at April 26, 2010 08:48 PM (Wnk4X)

29 Oh Lim Pics. Man Date. Shineeee Hair.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at April 26, 2010 08:50 PM (6tqEs)

30 Fer cryin' out loud.

This screams of abuse of power. Of egregious misdeeds. Of a country facing a crossroads, staring into the abyss.

And all most can muster is unfeigned surprise. yahhh gee... whaddya expect, the dickhead's taken over the future of the country...whadya want me to do about it? huh? tol' ya so... hyuk yuk yuk.

I give the country about 3 years. And we'll see how many patriots are left. Cable is just so, easy. And Costco, wow! I can get anything I need anytime, anywhere FOREVER!11!!1

Good luck, folks.

Posted by: Derak at April 26, 2010 08:53 PM (b+cZe)

31 His own actuaries were telling him it would raise premiums while he was going on TV and saying the opposite.

He lied? Say it ain't so!!

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at April 26, 2010 08:54 PM (Q75cY)

32 If true, this is pretty damning.

Posted by: Smapty at April 26, 2010 08:54 PM (bAySe)

33 I will make Obama Secretary of Defense.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at April 26, 2010 08:55 PM (6tqEs)

34 It's still gonna be free, right?

Posted by: Stupid 52% at April 26, 2010 08:55 PM (E5V01)

35 This shit should be an impeachable offense. Then again, it IS the Most Transparent Administration Ev-Ah, so I'm sure I'm overreacting here.

Posted by: Filly at April 26, 2010 08:56 PM (dSJW9)

36 "we didn't want to influence the vote"

This is pure madness. The congress should vote based on any and all influences like this. voter outrage, studies, opinions, and serious flaws found in analysis.

I hope some democrats are smart enough to run against Obama. Those who voted for this mess based on lies (obvious lies, but still) can claim they wouldn't have done so if this hadn't been covered up.

This is what the left accused Bush of doing with Iraq: of knowing the truth and covering it up before the AUMF.

Posted by: Sentient Nintendo 64 at April 26, 2010 08:59 PM (dUOK+)

37 This comes, btw, after a day in which I had to prepare my lunch across from a co-worker who was on her laptop with an enormous HOPE picture of Toonces on the back of the screen, reminding me to vote for him and Shuriff Joe. While I was trying to EAT. And then I sat down to a stack of student essays, one of which brightly announced that public education is, quote, "free," and another which wanted me to know that socialized medicine is really no different from health care provided to the military. (The costs of which are skyrocketing, by the way, far past the rate of civilian insurance. I made sure to bleed red ink all over that paragraph, and I don't care if the student IS scarred for life for being told that not everything that poops out of her printer is academic gold.)

Posted by: Filly at April 26, 2010 09:00 PM (dSJW9)

38 OK, here's an original thought: What if this had been Bush?

Well, maybe not 100% original, but seriously, there have been a hundred times in the last two years that my head has spun around over the media's fecklessness.

I hope they are all living in cardboard houses by the time we get this jug eared fck out of office.

Posted by: someone out there at April 26, 2010 09:01 PM (NXK5t)

39 My Death Panel strategy, since I am the wrong color, oops, party not going to get health care from Uncle Barack when I need it.

I will lose all of my ID's, dye my hair black and become "Conchita." As an illegal alien, I will be given every luxury, and will be treated as a goddess in this nation. All my healthcare will be free, and I will live happily ever after.

Plan two:
Commit a crime. Go to prison. Demand healthcare.

I'm pretty sure that in either scenario, I'll be getting treatment before a tax paying white republican.

Posted by: shibumi at April 26, 2010 09:01 PM (OKZrE)

40 This shit should be an impeachable offense. Then again, it IS the Most Transparent Administration Ev-Ah, so I'm sure I'm overreacting here. Posted by: Filly Sorry. The Constitution says you can't impeach a President if he was born in Africa. It's in the part with the Infield Fly Rule.

Posted by: eman at April 26, 2010 09:01 PM (6tqEs)

41 Mmm... impeachable offense.

If I was a man, I'd be in my bunk thinking about that.

Posted by: shibumi at April 26, 2010 09:02 PM (OKZrE)

42 So he lied. He knowingly lied to every single member of the American public. About a multi-trillion dollar venture.

This should be on the cover of every major newspaper.

It won't make the last paragraph of page 30.

Posted by: Phil at April 26, 2010 09:03 PM (jr7Cb)

43 I believe that this is called taxation without representation. Or, colloquially, tyranny. "Rebellion" will now be on my lips constantly, following closely, pro forma, the word "non-violent" Unfuckingbelievable. I'm with you Derak.

Posted by: hobgoblin at April 26, 2010 09:04 PM (Pr5pL)

44 *crickets*

Posted by: MSM at April 26, 2010 09:04 PM (6tqEs)

45 Im waiting for the Fox Whitehouse reporter to ask Gibbsy about this one. Get the popcorn ready and give Gibbs his I'm lying and spinning as fast as I can sweat rag.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 26, 2010 09:05 PM (rurh0)

46
How about a round of applause for Olympia Snowe.
Without her vote none of this would have happened.

Posted by: YIKES! at April 26, 2010 09:05 PM (E5V01)

47 MIguel in Mexico - find old friends from the now defunct Lizard Lounge at the new and improved - and unfettered - http://table9chat.com/

Posted by: Rose at April 26, 2010 09:07 PM (DOGSj)

48 So, it was HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius' office who sat on the report, allowing Obama, Pelosi, and Reid to maintain plausible deniability. In fact, the blame will probably be given to a staffer rather than Sebelius. Like during the Senate hearing in the movie Godfather 2, there's always a buffer between Obama and the buttons who carry out the orders. Lots of buffers.

Posted by: davidt at April 26, 2010 09:07 PM (aag4W)

49 How about a round of applause for Olympia Snowe. Without her vote none of this would have happened. Posted by: YIKES! Her name should be on toilets all across America.

Posted by: eman at April 26, 2010 09:09 PM (6tqEs)

50 So, it was HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius' office who sat on the report, allowing Obama, Pelosi, and Reid to maintain plausible deniability. In fact, the blame will probably be given to a staffer rather than Sebelius. Like during the Senate hearing in the movie Godfather 2, there's always a buffer between Obama and the buttons who carry out the orders. Lots of buffers.

Except the report suggests it was passed on and read, but just sat on because people were afraid to come clean.

If true, and this is no hyperbole here, this may be the most damning bit of evidence against this administration yet. This is legitimately, an impeachable offense.

It's perjury if the sources are accurate.

Posted by: Phil at April 26, 2010 09:10 PM (jr7Cb)

51 And so what? If he had not the outcome would have been different? Seriously, what f'ing tool in Congress didn't already know that this would raise costs?

Posted by: dogfish at April 26, 2010 09:10 PM (b3PlD)

52 good job Filly. this administration gets away with everything...from day one they never posted laws online for 5 days despite that being a campaign promise...MSM silent of course.

Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2010 09:13 PM (B977g)

Posted by: shibumi at April 27, 2010 01:01 AM (OKZrE)

You will shut down your computer immediately! When I ban you, you are banned from everywhere!

Posted by: C. (The Big) Johnson at April 26, 2010 09:14 PM (VjZGy)

Ya know...it's just another in a long string of documents that is kept in the dark from the American people: School records, video tapes....now a report on the actual costs of health care.

I'm thinking Barry isn't real. He's a hologram beamed down from an orbiting space station where George Soros lives so he can stay alive longer...like John Hurt's character in the movie Contact.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 26, 2010 09:17 PM (P33XN)

55 re: #49 -- "Olympia Snowe...Her name should be on toilets all across America" for a good time call Olympia? man that's just wrong. if that ain't the antidote for viagra i don't know what is. Ewww. even my inflatable sheep thinks that's disgusting.

Posted by: KilltheHippies at April 26, 2010 09:17 PM (VKfXw)

56 Time to call in Jack Bauer - he'll be going rogue from the start of this gig!

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 26, 2010 09:17 PM (JDmZ5)

57 You know, if we actually had two parties in this country, someone in the opposition would be raising holy hell about this and all the MSM blackouts in the world couldn't stop it.

But since both parties work towards the same goal (larger, more powerful, more centrally controlled government), we're basically fucked.

The Republicans wanted no part of this bill, because they knew opposing it will bring them short term gains in 2010. But don't think for a second that they don't love the new bureaucracy.

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at April 26, 2010 09:18 PM (QxGmu)

58 55, I didn't mean it that way. Ew.

Posted by: eman at April 26, 2010 09:19 PM (6tqEs)

59 RELEASE TEH CHENEY.

And Teh 'Cuda.

Posted by: Filly at April 26, 2010 09:20 PM (dSJW9)

60 HHS. Three letters. You know what else has three letters? KKK.

Posted by: Kathleen Parker at April 26, 2010 09:20 PM (FD3EH)

61 All together now: If Bush had done this...

Posted by: FUBAR at April 26, 2010 09:21 PM (1fanL)

I will lose all of my ID's, dye my hair black and become "Conchita." As an illegal alien, I will be given every luxury, and will be treated as a goddess in this nation. All my healthcare will be free, and I will live happily ever after.

You're going to need some more junk in the trunk if you don't have some already. Butt implants. Otherwise, you'll never make a convincing Conchita.

You can send me pictures and I'll make some suggestions on what you'll need for your illegal alien makeover.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 26, 2010 09:22 PM (P33XN)

"Whoa! "

In the changed America, this is what people say when something "unexpected" happens, I take it?

'"The reason we were given was that they did not want to influence the vote," says an HHS source. "Which is actually the point of having a review like this, you would think."'

That depends on what the report says, doesn't it now?

Posted by: Randy at April 26, 2010 09:22 PM (zQKSr)

64
I'm just guessing here, but it's not going to cost 960 billion and create a trillion jobs.

Posted by: YIKES! at April 26, 2010 09:23 PM (E5V01)

65 As if they give a shit about truthfulness. At risk of being booted off of AoS, this puts me in a hanging mood. I want to see some of these commie assholes swinging from lamp posts. In fucking effigy, of course. Of course, in effigy... These petty tyrant sons of bitches are worse than those our fathers were sent overseas to fight decades ago.

Posted by: rawmuse at April 26, 2010 09:23 PM (9vV3W)

"My friends, you have nothing to fear from Barack Obama."

Senator John McCain

Posted by: Mr. Barky at April 26, 2010 09:24 PM (bZW6t)

67 And they wonder why they're despised...

Posted by: Patton at April 26, 2010 09:26 PM (xvN1A)

@59

SP called out the media yesterday for ignoring their boyfriend's faults.

http://tinyurl.com/26uquu4

Posted by: Moron in a Caribou Snuggie at April 26, 2010 09:27 PM (FD3EH)

69
Isn't it exciting going through the health care refrigerator?

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at April 26, 2010 09:27 PM (E5V01)

70 If only the wingnut GOP had compromised with the willing and just Democrats, we wouldn't have to hide these things. You see, it is always the Republicans who cause trouble. I say this as the truest conservative on the planet. By the way, I love cock. Back door, slap on the face, golden shower. It's all delicious.

Posted by: David Frum at April 26, 2010 09:30 PM (AZGON)

By the way, I love cock. Back door, slap on the face, golden shower. It's all delicious.

I'll be right over, David!

Posted by: Andi Sullivan at April 26, 2010 09:32 PM (P33XN)

72 Most. Ethical. Administration. Evahhh!

Posted by: TennDon at April 26, 2010 09:35 PM (o6Yv2)

73 I have t-shirts for sale for gov workers that will increase the tax coffers.

Posted by: robotgossip at April 26, 2010 09:38 PM (EiH7n)

74 Andi Sullivan at April 27, 2010 01:32 AM (P33XN)

Last one there is the Lucky Pierre.

Posted by: Braney Frank at April 26, 2010 09:38 PM (E5V01)

75 65 I know you from long ago

Posted by: Richard at April 26, 2010 09:39 PM (wrZBq)

76 What would it take for one of the high profile whores in Obama's msm stable to turn on the pimp?

Posted by: davidt at April 26, 2010 09:39 PM (aag4W)

77 There have been reports that HHS suggested the health care bill would really raise costs on individuals who purchase health care, and that said report was buried until after the vote by the Obama administration. We asked the administration for comment, and were told that just by burying the report, "78654968543 jobs were saved or created in the United States alone." Burying this report is also responsible for the sunshine when you go to the beach, finding a cure for cancer, and the eradication of Al-Quaida as a terror organization. And you racist crackers questioned the power of this man. I feel a tingle coming on!

Posted by: MSM at April 26, 2010 09:40 PM (Br8qX)

78 65 From days when sanity played before HE went gecko blue

Posted by: Richard at April 26, 2010 09:41 PM (wrZBq)

79 Not shocked, also a preemptive not shocked on the media not reporting on this.

Posted by: Drew in MO at April 26, 2010 09:44 PM (GB1nV)

80 Poll numbers dived for George Bush after the Democrats cried that he lied about WMD in Iraq, so if Republicans want to put the crush on Obama, they will put this health care lie around Obama's neck and repeat his lie to the American people over and over again.

Posted by: My Girl Friday at April 26, 2010 09:46 PM (pq986)

81 OK lets talk shark-bait and diver tank do-overs....how bout it?

Posted by: Richard at April 26, 2010 09:48 PM (wrZBq)

82 That report from the Medicare actuaries released last week that concluded ObamaCare would raise premiums?

Yup. Mine just went up by $70 a month for single coverage. Screw you and the unicorn your rode in on, Barry.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at April 26, 2010 09:51 PM (554T5)

83 Let them eat cake.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Toonces Obama at April 26, 2010 09:55 PM (554T5)

The nice thing is that at my work, and I assume others, insurance decisions for the new year are made by the end of October.

If there is any difference this year, I plan to ask probing questions at the meeting about exactly why we are seeing this increase and hope it sticks in people's minds when they vote a month later for a new (hopefully) Senator.

Posted by: Randy at April 26, 2010 09:55 PM (zQKSr)

85 I see no news here fit to print.

Posted by: New York Times at April 26, 2010 09:56 PM (1aZ1e)

86 Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Posted by: Jill Abramson at April 26, 2010 09:56 PM (1aZ1e)

87 OOOHHHHHH DAMMMNNN! "Ididdnt MEAN to kill it ...."I SWEAR!!!!!" I jus saw the 50 swinging free and jus grabbed the HANDLE to keep it from swingin YA KNOW??? Din know the handle was the Trigger, I swear didnn know that handle was the trigger and ALL THEM BULLETS FLYIN EVERYWHERE!!!! LORD the BLOOD all over everything..EVERYTHING!!! and all those posts...never to see the light of day....DAMN.....

Posted by: Richard at April 26, 2010 09:57 PM (wrZBq)

88 Gotta remember the news media helped elect this guy. To them he WILL do no wrong. He is their hero. If you don't agree, you are a racist and should be mocked, beaten, and hung.

Posted by: Case at April 26, 2010 09:58 PM (0K+Kw)

89 Political malpractice.

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 26, 2010 09:58 PM (1aZ1e)

90 g night

Posted by: Richard at April 26, 2010 10:02 PM (wrZBq)

I'm sure they'll be hearings on this. Any moment now.

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 26, 2010 10:06 PM (1aZ1e)

92 Can't seem to find any link to the source other than the American Spectator itself, and so far have been unable to find any other source of this information.

Posted by: Nas at April 26, 2010 10:10 PM (cb1wM)

93 20 years from now (when I grow up) I want to spend my days teaching high school and college kids how the media let the Democratic Party and their Liar in Chief get away with breaking 9 of 10 promises they made without even mentioning it for 4 years. Only 4. We've met the new boss. Same as the old boss. You know the rest.

Posted by: societyis2blame at April 26, 2010 10:12 PM (rP8xu)

94 at that to Orzag admitting there will be death panels (see gateway pundit) and you would have an absolute media meltdown, if we had a media.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 26, 2010 10:12 PM (7VvJB)

Sorry, but there's no more room on my little napkin.

Posted by: Joe Klein at April 26, 2010 10:12 PM (FD3EH)

96 If you want to make sure there'll be a sea change in the 2010 general election, you have to change the outcome of the primary elections. To do that, you've got to get into the real ball game of politics. It's played at your local GOP committee meeting. By the precinct committeemen. (Do you not what a PC is?) Become one. Only precinct committeemen get to vote for the leadership of the Party. Precinct committeemen ARE the Party. And half these slots, nationwide, are vacant in the Republican Party. Want a more conservative Republican Party with more conservative leadership? Then, if you're a conservative, become a PC and get every conservative you know to become one, too.

Now!

Thank you.

Posted by: Cold Warrior at April 26, 2010 10:19 PM (OZRCk)

97 Is this criminal?...or at least worthy of a lawsuit? This cannot be solved at the ballot box, that much I know. We must face the fact that our government is the enemy.

Posted by: pam at April 26, 2010 10:26 PM (h8R9p)

98 What can you say? Everyone knows he is a lying CS and everyone knew the bill would increase costs for everyone.

Posted by: Vic at April 26, 2010 10:28 PM (QrA9E)

Elizabeth Hasselbeck Gets a Call on her Cell Phone From Joe Biden

Posted by: newser at April 26, 2010 10:31 PM (39SGJ)

100

Sorry, but there's no more room on my little napkin.

Ha!

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 26, 2010 10:54 PM (1aZ1e)

101 Our bambi don't have to tell no stinken troots, just keep the gravy train rollin..

We all just happy he's the most partisan telepres evahhhhhaaaa

Posted by: Afrolatowomenz at April 27, 2010 12:22 AM (yR81w)

102 The most transparent Administration in American history, wasn't that what Obama promised?

Oh, it's transparent, all right, just not the way we thought he meant at the time . . .

Posted by: Adjoran at April 27, 2010 12:22 AM (3hg5M)

103 Okay, class, raise your hand if this is a surprise... those with their hands up? Slap yourself.

Posted by: Ace's liver at April 27, 2010 12:35 AM (LtIsn)

104 Investigation number #1 by new Republican Committee Chair in January.

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2010 12:36 AM (CPefM)

105 It also goes without saying that all of the career staff at HHS are lefty's too. If this had been a Republican issue, that report would have been leaked before the Secretary had a chance to pigeonhole it.

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2010 12:40 AM (CPefM)

106 If this was Bush the report woulda been leaked by some career ahole named Wo Jilson and he woulda been a media hero.

Posted by: Mr Pink at April 27, 2010 02:08 AM (cjAU1)

107 Axelrod's got some competition coming. It is getting harder to tell the trolls from near-sentient spambots.

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2010 02:23 AM (CPefM)

108 On an unrelated note, as someone who also likes to eat pussy, I really admire Janet Napolitano.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 27, 2010 02:25 AM (nKUh3)

109 Obama Lied, Grandma Died!

Posted by: Cobalt Shiva at April 27, 2010 02:39 AM (EIZuT)

110 Law enforcement running interference for one of the wealthiest corporations on earth. This is NOT syndical-fascism: http://tinyurl.com/24ye3w8

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 27, 2010 02:42 AM (nKUh3)

111 In a sane world this would be the lead story of every news show and the headline on the front page of every newspaper. But then, in a sane world this bunch would never has gotten into power in the first place.

And come November it will be an uphill battle just getting most of the victims to remember what was done to them. We've become a nation that would rather repress the memory than confront its attackers.

Posted by: epobirs at April 27, 2010 02:46 AM (IYz8z)

112 What is the big fuc.... deal. I lie.,Obama lies , Charlie Rangel lies,All Dems lie..ad nauseum.The end justify the means and our intentions are noble,just ask the honorable New York Times.Stop being racist obstructionists and disband those violent Tea Parties.Your partner in pain, Joe Bidden

Posted by: MIKE191 at April 27, 2010 02:48 AM (Rcgrf)

113 110 Axelrod's got some competition coming. It is getting harder to tell the trolls from near-sentient spambots.

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2010 06:23 AM (CPefM)

How do you differentiate between trolls and non-trolls, whether or not you share their opinions? "Spambots"???? I dunno, Jean, your rationale eludes me.

Posted by: Natasha & Boris at April 27, 2010 02:49 AM (ITzbJ)

114

Obama Lied, Your Economic Future Died.

Posted by: Donkey Denier at April 27, 2010 02:49 AM (ktYjH)

115 NPR can suck my Jello-O!

They are still fuckin' the climate change chicken.

On my way to work, they were talking about how
saving the environment is getting stalled in congress
due to Republicans...

Such bullshit, don't even know where to start.

Posted by: Mjim at April 27, 2010 03:00 AM (V8B//)

116

Elizabeth Hasselbeck Gets a Call on her Cell Phone From Joe Biden

Posted by: newser at April 27, 2010 02:31 AM (39SGJ)

Biden's such a creepy fuck; he probably wanted to know if she's had any work done on her cans like Dr Jill.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 27, 2010 03:27 AM (V5s1P)

117 This must not be forgotten. EVERY DEMOCRAT MUST GO IN 2010.

Posted by: ParisParamus at April 27, 2010 03:29 AM (Qh7hs)

118

A. We used to like Fox's Juan Williams. But the guy has gotten to be a jerk. He now defends Obama's behavior, now matter how sleazy Obama gets.

B. How did bow-tie boy, Tucker Carlsen, get a job on Fox as a fill-in moderator for talk show hosts like Sean Hannity? He is a wussy. He has no control over guests. He has screwy perspectives. He can't articulate his positions, Democrats talk over him, spouting their talking points without any interruptions from a flailing and inept bow-tie boy, who makes dufus points himself. Ever since he was on CNN, he has always been a putz, kind of like Fred Barnes, but worse.

C. Last night on Hannity, Bob Beckel remarked that he used to date a girl, who was in the radical Weather Underground, downplaying the significance of his admission, and trivializing those radicals, and even scoffing at the idea that they were terrorists or radicals. I'm incredulous nearly everytime that I hear Democrats. They're not even rational.

Posted by: Natasha & Boris at April 27, 2010 03:30 AM (ITzbJ)

119 Why do I think we wont hear anything about this little tidbit from the MSM?

Posted by: mitchellvii@yahoo.com at April 27, 2010 03:34 AM (kEBiX)

120 So when is it OK to call this fraud a liar? Oh, sure, rabble rousers like morons here do it regularly because tact is somewhat frowned upon; but when do people with "respectable" forums and a megaphone start calling the Precedent out? It's not disrespectful to call a liar a liar. We've known this for many months, yet somehow the likes of Rep. Joe Wilson, one of the few to state the bleeding obvious and a fact, is expected to apologize.

Quit apologizing, America. You need not respect a man who has unearned it. You need not temper the words and lower the bar of expectations because of some unwritten PC rule. Obama is a man and nothing more. Turns out he's not much of one either. But he's a fantastic fraud, so give him his due - proudly and unabashedly.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 27, 2010 03:37 AM (swuwV)

121 The only hiccup in this story is,

the unnamed "career HHS sources"

Now, if only, someone would speak on the record.

What are the chances?

Posted by: franksalterego at April 27, 2010 03:42 AM (+6fgE)

122 Obama LIED? Say it isn't so ...

Posted by: bill-tb at April 27, 2010 03:47 AM (y+QfZ)

123

A year ago when I saw headlines such as this one, I read the report for the scandal factor "whaddya mean Obama knew about such & such?". now I read the article for the news value on the subject matter.

he rallied his true base yesterday (or the day before)--the blacks & the Latinos. I'm sorry if this sounds racist--it IS racist. Obama is a racist. and he is a liar.

and no amount of media BS will convince 47% otherwise.

Posted by: kelley in virginia at April 27, 2010 04:02 AM (bncoN)

124 LIAR!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 27, 2010 04:13 AM (ucxC/)

125 don't worry, kids boom time is right around the corner. don't stop thinking about tomorrow!

Posted by: Dash Riprock at April 27, 2010 04:17 AM (ewicX)

126

Elizabeth HasselbeckGets a Call on her Cell Phone From Joe Biden

Sheesh. WTF is he doing with her phone number anyway? Why didn't he call Almond Joy Behar?

I hope Matt Hasselbeck throws a lazer beam spiraled football right down his throat.

Posted by: Learflyer at April 27, 2010 04:18 AM (5aVOy)

127 haha, anyone see the latest newspaper circulations?

Posted by: Dash Riprock at April 27, 2010 04:18 AM (ewicX)

128 You guys remember a story from about a year ago telling us how newspaper circulation is actually pretty high, it's the lack of advertising (because of Bush's bad economy) that's killing revenue?

Posted by: Dash Riprock at April 27, 2010 04:20 AM (ewicX)

129 It's all lies and spin. All propaganda. You can't even believe what newspapers say about their own business.

Posted by: Dash Riprock at April 27, 2010 04:23 AM (ewicX)

130

Unbelievable, it gets more unbelievable every day with this crew.

killthehippies makes a good point about the real story being the legacy media's anticipated spike of this lie. Obama has no compunction about lying because he knows he can count on the media to protect him, which is an amazing thing if you think about it.

But it is also important because Obama argued, near the end when this was all coming to a head, that the Obamacare plan was financially sound, would not increase premiums. Due to his and the media's dishonesty, he was able to take potentially fatal flaws in his plan (if the public was aware of the facts), and spin them as strengths of the plan. And it worked.

Someday there will be a saner world where people will look back and shake their heads unbelievingly at all this. Or there will be a world where 2 +2 = 5.

Posted by: RM at April 27, 2010 04:26 AM (1kwr2)

131
This is so all of the democrats who voted this based on "cost savings" [laughs] can say they were duped, tricked... and how they would vote differently now.

It's all a lie and a scam to give democrats cover.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 27, 2010 04:27 AM (0fzsA)

132 AP reporterette says Obama is full of shit on economy.

Posted by: Dash Riprock at April 27, 2010 04:27 AM (ewicX)

133 I recall back when Reagan was President they used to call him the Teflon President because even though the media threw shit at him on a daily basis none of it would stick because the people really did like him.

Now we have a complete lying asshole and and administration of rabid communist crooks who will do anything to get their way and the press will not even report it.

So if Reagan was the Teflon President because the press's attacks would not stick, what the jug-eared jackass?

How about the stealth President or the "Tree in the Forrest President". What ever the thing, the media no longer has the power they had back in the 70s and 80s.

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2010 04:28 AM (QrA9E)

134 What's this? Al Pacino in an HBO movie...the Jack Kevorkian story. I might watch it.

Posted by: Dash Riprock at April 27, 2010 04:31 AM (ewicX)

135 What's maybe the funniest part of this story is how history repeats itself -- sometimes twice! Bush suppressed the same agency's actual report in 2003 on the effects on the budget of the Medicare Part D (and not for a lot longer; it didn't come out until the minority on the House Appropriations Committee refused to agree to vote the next year's budget out of committee unless it was released -- remember how the Dems used it to kickstart the 2004 election with challenge the costs of the "dumb war"?). But the ironic part is the report estimated a cost for the Medicare Part D reform that turned out to be almost twice as high as reality. (I figure at some point there'll be a study come out that re-allocates all that debt Bush left Obama among Bush, Iraq and Congress, and Bush's piece of the pie chart will look like a sliver.) If you actually read the actuarial report -- fun for some, maybe not so much for others -- it's actually consistent with the OMB projection: a 1% rise starting out, steady until Obama leaves then up to 2% through 2019 -- except there the report just stops. So while the OMB projects boldly where no administration has gone before -- yearly numbers through 2029 and decade summaries thereafter -- the actuaries don't go there, because actuaries don't ever go there: history's shown that changes over more than two economic cycles are just too gross to rely on the underlying assumptions as in any predictable. It's correct that the actuaries' report shows higher numbers (of course, implicating higher taxes) than the OMB has forecast -- except it depends which OMB forecast you look at. Orszag cranked out a whole whack (wack?) of them over almost a full year, sometimes just weeks apart, and even then I'd bet not a single one of those will end up reflecting how health care coverage law ends up by the time we get to President Lowden's first term. And of course, if enough of it gets repealed, there's your history repeating itself, twice. Maybe we can look forward to a billboard campaign in 2018 with Obama asking: Miss me yet?

Posted by: Shooter at April 27, 2010 04:33 AM (zfRju)

136

"His own actuaries were telling him it would raise premiums while he was going on TV and saying the opposite. "

Obama didn't lie. He said premiums would go down 3000%. (video is out there, if you google on "Obama 3000%"). A new word is needed. The word "lie" just doesn't cover it.

Posted by: Phil at April 27, 2010 04:33 AM (cBaCB)

137 This HC debate will be covered on C-Span ... except for all the backroom deals, and government reports will be hidden, and there will be no real debate, this will be strictly partisan.

But this is a big fucking deal, if it can be proven Obama was lying to the public while he had his own report suppressed.

He has of course lied a lot, and must have known this bill would raise costs without the report. But to bury his own strong evidence, and then to contradict it publicly right before the vote, should be hard for him to dance away from.

Posted by: bill at April 27, 2010 04:35 AM (cqFRV)

138 re: the subject of this post...The Republicans will be on this like white on rice! chyeahhhhh, right

Posted by: Dash Riprock at April 27, 2010 04:35 AM (ewicX)

139 Heck, I could have told him that premiums would go up. But I didn't. Other, more important things to do you know.

Posted by: Mittens in Paramus at April 27, 2010 04:39 AM (jat5l)

140 Yes, Obama is a lying sack of crap, as are all of his accomplices in the media. Anyone expecting impeachment from this is wasting their breath though.

Posted by: Hatchet Five at April 27, 2010 04:40 AM (Pr+pV)

141
Charles Johnson: ;">Against Obama Before he Was For Him.

*burp*

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 27, 2010 04:42 AM (0fzsA)

142

What's the point of health insurance when their are no doctors.

I predict Soviet style humor becoming very popular in america in the next ten years

Posted by: Ben at April 27, 2010 04:43 AM (wuv1c)

143
try again:

Charles Johnson: Against Obama Before he Was For Him

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 27, 2010 04:43 AM (0fzsA)

144
I predict we all become poorer and poorer as the democrat party coffers get richer and richer.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 27, 2010 04:44 AM (0fzsA)

145 today's word is 'hijinks.' Try to use hijinks today in your conversation. It's a good word that hardly ever gets used.

Posted by: Dash Riprock at April 27, 2010 04:48 AM (ewicX)

146

I haven't been this shocked since the original Lionel left the Jeffersons.

Posted by: dananjcon at April 27, 2010 04:48 AM (pr+up)

147

Can i point out that CNN dot com has had no less than 5 polls on the arizona immigration issue in the past few days.

Why do i bring this up. Well they essentially change the wording a little bit so they can put up a new poll, as the poll results always end up supporting the bill, which clearly cnn doesn't lilke.

As evidenced by their non stop coverage of this issue. Sure it needs to be covered, but on every show? and would it kill one of the anchors to read the bill. all of their questions start off like this, "This bill seems to...." Well if you actually read it you could say for certain. Or you might notice that parts of it are a word for word copy of federal immigration law.

Posted by: Ben at April 27, 2010 04:51 AM (wuv1c)

148

Yes, this is damning evidence against this administration, but how many other pieces of "damning evidence" are there? Nobody is going to do squat about this. There is a big difference between should, could, and will.

Besides, you bring this up for public discussion. and the kool aide drinkers immediately start yammering about it being from "faux news" -- which isn't so much a fact based response to you, but an attempt to discredit for the audience's sake (and some of the audience will buy along with it -- because everyone knows that "faux news" is a nazi corporation in league with the evil booosh...the kool aide drinkers did their part admirably this past decade).

These idiots have to be voted out, but there is a war of information that has been lost for quite some time, and now it has to be won. If it can be.

Posted by: unknown jane at April 27, 2010 04:51 AM (5/yRG)

149
I predict the congress people who voted for Pelosi/Reid/ObamaCare will use this "shocked, I'm shocked" info to say they were DUPED!

Hard to fathom how a new trillion dollar entitlement forced down tax payers throats would actually lead to.... wait for it..... HIGHER COSTS FOR TAX PAYERS.

How were those genius left-winger congress-dolts so blind! They did it for king Obama.

Bad faith.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 27, 2010 04:54 AM (0fzsA)

150

I haven't been this shocked since Re-run got caught boot-legging the Doobie brothers!

Posted by: dananjcon at April 27, 2010 04:58 AM (pr+up)

151

WOW! THAT'S A LOW PRICE!

Posted by: The staples comercial guy at April 27, 2010 04:59 AM (gbCNS)

152

I haven't been this shocked since J-R got shot.

Posted by: dananjcon at April 27, 2010 05:03 AM (pr+up)

153 Oh Joy!

The One is giving a Townhall this evening in Ottumwa, Iowa.
@April 27, 2010 5:35 PM EDT

Get your recorders ready!

Posted by: Mjim at April 27, 2010 05:08 AM (V8B//)

154 The bigger revelation in that TAS post is where Prowler tells us how Jarrett and Axelrod are putting the arm on Wall Street firms to artificially boost employment numbers. Unbelievable.

Posted by: JRO at April 27, 2010 05:08 AM (YwFJn)

155 I wonder what the SEC would think if the president of a public company failed to disclose that kind of information in the company's prospectus and instead hid it so as not to 'influence" the investing public?

Posted by: USA at April 27, 2010 05:09 AM (YZISw)

156 Democrats Pass 12,000-Page Bill to Solve Problems Created by Previously-Passed 2,500-Page Bill

Posted by: Justin Camp at April 27, 2010 05:15 AM (nF4Jh)

157

High Crimes And Misdemeanors.

The coverup is always worse than the crime.

Posted by: rockmom at April 27, 2010 05:17 AM (w/gVZ)

158 Lame Stream Media response: Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 27, 2010 05:22 AM (1Jaio)

159 Obama Admin Precedential Junta Buried Report on Cost of ObamaCare Until After Vote

FIFY

It's time we all started calling it what it obviously is.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 27, 2010 05:23 AM (N49h9)

160

The line about how to tell if a politician is lying - because his lips are moving; Barry manages to ruin that phrase by taking all of the sarcasm out of it.

And smarmy - I looked that up and that extra from the last zombie movie, and there was Sebelius' picture.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 27, 2010 05:23 AM (r1h5M)

161

I haven't been this shocked since Joanie & Chachi did the deed!

Posted by: dananjcon at April 27, 2010 05:25 AM (pr+up)

162 Do I punch myself in the sack or something?

Posted by: sorta politically savvy someguy? at April 27, 2010 05:26 AM (iV4X6)

163 I haven't been this surprised since Ricky Martin announced he was gay.

Posted by: Mr Pink at April 27, 2010 05:28 AM (i7SUH)

164 Well it looks like it's true, the Obama regime lies.

Posted by: bill-tb at April 27, 2010 05:34 AM (y+QfZ)

165 We had the "teflon don" now we have the "teflon president". during the whole HC debacle people were posting in the comments on some political sites that the costs would be crazy nuts and "they knew". wonder if the poor actuaries were burning the "midnight oil" to post to all these blogs and no one ran with it.

Money you can deal with, death panels, that is the one bothering me. When you go to gateway Pundit and he has the proof that Sarah Palin was right when she talked about the death panels then you begin to become nauseous. One of my lib friends said "oh they are just overseeing to make sure you get the best care for the money, no one is going to kill you"....really?

Posted by: curious at April 27, 2010 05:35 AM (p302b)

166 Sadly I'm not shocked but in the spirit of the thread....

I haven't been this shocked since joe B got his hair back...

Posted by: curious at April 27, 2010 05:36 AM (p302b)

167

I haven't been this shocked since Lance Bass was outted.

Posted by: dananjcon at April 27, 2010 05:36 AM (pr+up)

168 169 Sadly I'm not shocked but in the spirit of the thread....

I haven't been this shocked since joe B got his hair back...

Posted by: curious at April 27, 2010 09:36 AM (p302b)

I haven't been this shocked since Stella got her Groove Back.

Posted by: dananjcon at April 27, 2010 05:40 AM (pr+up)

169 mrp: Now you're just being silly.

Posted by: Patton at April 27, 2010 05:40 AM (xvN1A)

170 One of my lib friends said "oh they are just overseeing to make sure you get the best care for the money, no one is going to kill you"....really?

Really, they won't kill you. Until your health costs outweigh your productivity anyway. Then all bets are off.

Posted by: Deathknyte at April 27, 2010 05:42 AM (12blM)

171

This is how you "get things done" in Washington. PoliSci majors will write theses on this, shaking their heads in wonderment. Wouldn't it be slick if you could fool people into making government smaller?

How come that never happens? (Oh, somebody's going to mention the Glass-Steagal repeal, but come on, get real. We're watching /pron/ here.)

Posted by: comatus at April 27, 2010 05:42 AM (/VEEI)

172 And the hits just keep on comin....How anyone with a fucking quarter of a brain can still defend this lying fuck is beyond me. How can anyone with a straight face call themselves a Democrat? The party of liars, cheats, thugs, socialists, marxists, communists, south chicago tactics, people of color and women only, this fucking list could go on forever. Shit, it's only 6:45AM on the west coast and I already need a drink.

Posted by: Sparky at April 27, 2010 05:47 AM (r0u40)

173

#138 Shooter, thanks for reminding everyone that the Bush adminstration did almost exactly the same thing to cram Medicare prescription coverage down our throats. And the House, under that useless fat pig Hastert, engaged in a very Pelosi-like trashing of procedure by keeping the vote open long after time had expired so that W could twist arms to pass that piece of crap.

Don't get me wrong. I have absolutely no regard for the Obama/Pelosi/Reid axis and consider the Obama administration to be the most mendacious and lawless in our history. And that's after just 15 months. In fact, Obama makes Clinton look like an honest man. But this incident just reminds me why I consider myself a conservative and will never consider myself a Republican - even if I vote almost exclusively for Republican candidates. I'm glad that there are people within the party fighting the good fight. But I can't bring myself to do more than vote in the primaries and contribute to select candidates (and never to the party or the committees).

Posted by: SteveN at April 27, 2010 05:48 AM (7EV/g)

174 In fact, Obama makes Clinton look like an honest man.

Posted by: SteveN at April 27, 2010 09:48 AM (7EV/g)

The Precedent makes Benedict Arnold look like a Patriot.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 27, 2010 05:51 AM (N49h9)

175 Every time you think this administration has hit bottom, they get out their shovels and start digging.

Posted by: Boots at April 27, 2010 05:54 AM (06JTY)

176

I haven't been this shocked since Fonzi grew a beard and became a teacher.

Posted by: dananjcon at April 27, 2010 05:56 AM (pr+up)

177 If only there were a way for mainstream media outlets to get this information out to their audiences...

Posted by: t-bird at April 27, 2010 05:57 AM (FcR7P)

178

Oh, and this week in Illinois, home of corruption, Obama will be appearing in Quincy with the current democrat candidate for Obama's former US senate seat, one Alexi Giannoulis (D-current Illinois Treasurer, yes there are no decent ethical standards in Illinois).

Whose family's (allegedly) mobbed up Broadway Bank in Chicago was just taken over by the feds last Friday, and will end up costing US taxpayers hundreds of millions of tax dollars.

Posted by: Boots at April 27, 2010 05:59 AM (06JTY)

179 Every time you think this administration has hit bottom, they get out their shovels and start digging.

Posted by: Boots at April 27, 2010 09:54 AM (06JTY)

They'd better watch out, because they've dug pretty deep, already, and Al Gore says that it's millions of degrees down there.

Meanwhile, the despicable lying sack of shit from Indonesian is busy lying all over my TV, yet once again. How much longer is America going to allow this to go on?

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 27, 2010 05:59 AM (N49h9)

180 And did I mention that the Giannoulis family withdrew around $70 million from Broadway Bank in the last few years, which is why it had to be taken over by the feds (well, that and all the bad loans they made to mobsters and others who did not pay them back).

Posted by: Boots at April 27, 2010 06:00 AM (06JTY)

181 Barry Obama's on the tv talking about fiscal responsibility and deficit control. He's soooo dreamy. Look at the way his purple lips form the words that flow so trippingly from his teleprompter.

Posted by: libtard moonbat at April 27, 2010 06:01 AM (oSrBX)

182 Obama lie? I'm shocked. Shocked I tell ya.

Posted by: kansas at April 27, 2010 06:08 AM (mka2b)

183

I haven't been this shocked since Gilligan blew yet another opportunity to get off that damn island!!

Posted by: dananjcon at April 27, 2010 06:09 AM (pr+up)

184 In reality world, an actual Press would be blasting these clowns for being dishonest about EVERY damn thing that seems to come up, but it is business as usual and haul Oclowna's water.

Posted by: Lt.Kilgore at April 27, 2010 06:09 AM (aAzUo)

185 It bothers me that this does not shock me, surprise me or anger me in the slightest. It's de rigueur for this administration to prevaricate, obfuscate and outright lie. The right response should be outrage, not resignation or shoulder-shrugging, but after a while the danger is you start getting numb to it.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2010 06:21 AM (DrWcr)

186

I'm with #176. The press also knew and sat on it (Isikoff/Lewinsky), just like they are sitting on it now.

Health care is old news and too mathy anyway, new shiny racism now in Arizona!!!!!11eleventy!!1!!

Posted by: Schwalbe at April 27, 2010 06:28 AM (UU0OF)

187 This is a big fuckin' deal

Posted by: Tepes at April 27, 2010 06:30 AM (VXHA8)

188

Not a big fucking deal.

Just a big fucking.

(Stole that from a caller to Rush a few weeks ago.)

Posted by: rockmom at April 27, 2010 06:34 AM (w/gVZ)

189 Hmm isn't this exactly what Bush was accused of doing with respect to Medicare Part D?

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2010 06:35 AM (Gk/wA)

190

I haven't been this shocked since Flo opened the Yellow Rose.

Posted by: dananjcon at April 27, 2010 06:40 AM (pr+up)

191 195

I haven't been this shocked since Flo opened the Yellow Rose.

And that did not work out for her very well. Meanwhile, Alice and the gang kept living it up. Now, Enos did a little better leaving Hazard County and moving to L.A.

Posted by: Monkeytoe at April 27, 2010 06:48 AM (9hB6b)

192

194 Hmm isn't this exactly what Bush was accused of doing with respect to Medicare Part D?

The difference is that Bush was publicly accused. Obama will never even be accused as far as most people are concerned - they will never hear a peep about it.

Posted by: sherlock at April 27, 2010 06:48 AM (fKPuo)

193 On the link, I found the paragraph under the description of the latest health scare criminality to be interesting:

The irony of President Barack Obama visiting Beckley, West Virginia, Sunday to read a eulogy at the memorial service for those who died in the Upper Big Branch Mine accident, has not been lost on some White House aides. "If we had our way we'd be mourning the mining industry, not miners," says a White House aide. "As an environmental issue, we want the majority of these mining related industries just to go away."

They're still looking to "bankrupt the coal industry" ... "as an environmental issue". These people ought to be forced to stop using energy and to live in the dark that they are trying to bring to the rest of the civilized world.

Just one more thing for the neo-Pravda media to ignore. Ignoring real news and making up fake news are the only jobs they perform. This neo-Pravda puts the old Soviet Pravda to shame with their enthusiasm and unrestrained propaganda. At least the Soviet Pravda had the excuse that the state was forcing them. The neo-Pravda do it of their own America-hating, criminal volition.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 27, 2010 06:50 AM (N49h9)

194 The press will continue to be the PRAVDA for President Ovomit until we, all of us, start demanding them to do their jobs. Through writing, phoning, e-mailing, or whatever it takes. Our biggest enemy of honest,taxpaying Americans are the very people who are suppose to be the "watch dogs" for us. We should stop whining about jugears, and focus on the real enemy of the state. The STATE RUN MEDIA are a clear and present danger. It's sad that so many American "zombies" trust what comes out of the boob tube. Not reporting on something like this is worse than making up the news.

Posted by: Sparky at April 27, 2010 06:53 AM (r0u40)

195 >That report from the Medicare actuaries released last week that concluded ObamaCare would raise premiums? The Obama Administration had it a week before the final vote...and sat on it:

Wait.

Are you trying to tell me obama pulled a fast one on us?
The duece you say!

Posted by: Jones at April 27, 2010 07:08 AM (JL3qV)

196 I know we're all cynical and everything but this is a major damn story. This should have been a flaming skull.

Posted by: Christian at April 27, 2010 07:29 AM (Lgc/F)

197 It depresses me that this is utterly non-surprising. It depresses me even further that our fearless media will say nothing about this, but will indeed go on attacking the Tea Party folks. Most depressing of all is that these criminals will cheat their way to maintaining power in November.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 27, 2010 07:35 AM (eNxMU)

198 This is grounds for IMPEACHMENT

Withholding information from the public.

This "President" is not worthy to hold ANY American office.

Go back to your "Community Organizing" you leftist fuck.

Posted by: MelodicMetal at April 27, 2010 07:38 AM (x4S2a)

199 The STATE RUN MEDIA are a clear and present danger.

It surprises me every day I walk past our local NBC affiliate that there are not throngs of tea partiers protesting en masse. Nope. Just biz a usual. Not a peep.

This is the real danger in our society today. We should have a 24/7 protest against these treasonous bastards. They should be afraid. Very Afraid.

Posted by: Derak at April 27, 2010 07:42 AM (M5Z2q)

200 I think we'd all agree that the MSM is as big a problem as Obama. The question is: how do citizens wield their power and send them a message to start doing their due diligence and start reporting?

I suggest:
Cancel your cable for a month campaign
Cancel all of your newspaper subscriptions for a month campaign (obviously happening now without a campaign)

Start making executives at the major networks, cable companies, and print news media get a little squirmy about losing revenue because Americans are shutting it off.

We have to start thinking outside of the box with creative ideas to get these sinister fuckers off of their elite asses and back to hardcore journalism.

Posted by: Halfway to crazy at April 27, 2010 07:50 AM (pq986)

201

progressiveoverpeace,

Your right. Obama is going to use this mining incident to make safety rules that will greatly increase the cost of coal. It's the only reason why he is making a big deal about it. Its a back door way of increasing costs to reduce consumption or eliminate actual mining.

Posted by: Ken at April 27, 2010 07:51 AM (//Bcg)

202 You go home now, you been here for oowher!

Posted by: mikeyslaw at April 27, 2010 08:04 AM (QMGr1)

203 I got some really bad, scary news this morning in addition to this, and this thread had me laughing through the tears. Thanks, morons.

Special shout-out to dananjan. Holla, brotha. (I wish I had a solemn memorial press conference in which to do this, but this is the best I can do at the moment.)

Posted by: Filly at April 27, 2010 08:04 AM (dSJW9)

204

Those miner's got what was coming to them.

Dressing up, all in Blackface, every single day. God has cast judgement on them! ...and where are my beautiful Sisters in this Coal Mining Operation?

I haven't seen one. The White Man is keeping us out of the Coal Minin' racket!

...and although Barack isn't really a black man, he's as close as we'll get. So I suport his efforts to Bankrupt Big 'White' Coal. Return the Coal to its' rightful owners. My Native American Brothers!

We're all people of Color. Even Barack.

Everybody say-

"Hell no, 'White Coal' Must Go!"

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