1 aces posts laura....

fact is we should have pushed for a formal declaration of war using the Barbary Pirates conflict as a guideline.

2

I too have always been part of 'America's Story'.

 

3 Been here since the beginning as well!

4

 (Rolls eyes) Sure Barry. !Kung tribesmen have also always been a part of American history.

 This fool would be funny if he weren't so damn dangerous.  

5 As much as that drivel pisses me off, it's very telling of where Pres'ent Toonces mindset is regarding himself and this country and its religious background.

I am starting to seriously think that when he leaves office, he's going to out himself as a practicing muslim.

6

Am I the only one one struck by the fact he labeled the hijackers "nihilists."  They were the OPPOSITE of nihilists... in fact they were suicidal ideologues.  Distorting the fact they were devout Muslims is one thing, but he's either trying further diminish the role the Religion-of-Peace had in killing 3000 Americans, or this retard literally has no idea what he's saying when he's speaking.

I'll give the benefit of the doubt and go with the latter.

7 I really hate that fucking guy.

8

My question is, who is he talking to or more importantly, who is listening? At this point in his Presidency, it seems that battle lines have been drawn. All the stupid people have sided with the Libs and the rest have said "Wait a minute, what's this guys game?"

I don't think people are being persuaded by his speeches anymore.

9 They're not concerned with "rewriting" this particular chapter of history - they're simply counting on nobody taking the time to look it up and discover that Obama is full of shit.  He's totally convinced himself that the American people consider him the One-Stop Source^tm of information, so he doesn't worry about pesky concepts like truth and ethics.

10 That's it. We don't have a problem with you because of what you believe, but because of what you do.

Here's the problem; it is what they believe that compels them to do what they do.  It is not US foreign policy, poverty,or Israel that feeds the terrorist mind; it is the basic teachings of Muslim supremacy in the Quran and the Haditha that is the root.  In that respect, their religion teaches that I must be converted, subjugated or else killed. 

Laura, I vehemently disagree; they act as they do because of what they believe, and I take severe exception to a religion that teaches its adherents to hate me, my family, and my friends simply because we reject their religion.

11

"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."

The most penetrating insight of the problem America faces.

12 I am starting to seriously think that when he leaves office, he's going to out himself as a practicing muslim.
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Pro Debate Squad, And Summoner Of Meteors. at August 14, 2010 04:14 PM

Once again, I'm gonna disagree with y'all. I don't think he'll wait that long.

The fucker is a Muslim. And that's more important to him than anything, including the Constitution the treasonous bastard "swore" to defend.

13 Who'd have ever thought "do you love America" would be a necessary or reasonable question to ask a presidential candidate?

I guess maybe this was a tipoff.

14 This particular piece of history cannot be rewritten to suit current PC needs. The reasons for the envoy's visit cannot be recast into some pap about multicultural understanding.

Sure it can.  It already has been.  Do you really believe that kids have been taught about the Barbary Pirates and the Treaty of Tripoli and the like in any other context for the last 20+ years? 

15 And hell while we are at it, lets re-write the part about the muslims taking US citizens as slaves during the Barbary "culture troubles".

What a tone deaf douche Obumbles is.

16 My scorn hath runeth over

17 I can't really see Michelle being down with the subjugation of women in Islam, no matter how confused her ideology is. Doubly so for her little princesses. Those girls are not gonna be Islamified.
 So if Barry is a Muslim, I'd say he's going it alone.

18 State dictating a religion is not separation of church and state.  This is eff'd up.

19

The fucker is a Muslim. And that's more important to him than anything, including the Constitution the treasonous bastard "swore" to defend.

If that's the case, it kind of makes you wonder what kind of 'help' he might be slipping them...

20 Laura, I vehemently disagree; they act as they do because of what they believe, and I take severe exception to a religion that teaches its adherents to hate me, my family, and my friends simply because we reject their religion.
Posted by: Pelayo at August 14, 2010 04:21 PM

Some poster said yesterday that Islam is not so much a religion as it is (I'm paraphrasing) a complete political/social/religious system. Its ultimate goal is not to serve God, but to destroy all who don't follow its beliefs and savage practices.

Wish I could remember who said it. He (or she) had it nailed.

This is why having madrasa-trained, terrorist-appeasing, likely Muslim Osama Obama in the White House is so dangerous. He does not want to win as much as he wants to wipe all whom he hates from the face of the earth.

21 So if Barry is a Muslim, I'd say he's going it alone.

Posted by: lincolntf at August 14, 2010 04:27 PM (BCzaE)

Maybe but those in power in Muslim countries don't exactly practice what they preach. I'm betting that Michelle wouldn't give a crap about female subjugation as long as she can walk around showing off that ginormous ass.

22 The population of muslims in America had been about ... ZERO, until the late 20th century, when we started importing them like they were going out of style.  All there was, in the beginning, was the Nation of Islam, and most muslims in the world didn't consider them real muslims.  Then our immigration policy really started bringing them in, in the 90's.  Before that, almost all of the arabs who emigrated to the US were Christians who were being chased out by the muslims.

And now the Indonesian Imbecile likes to act as if islam was ever some measurable part of the US (he claims even more, but just this minor claim is laughable).  He said it in his Cairo speech, too, and he got away with it.

This joke that muslims have always "been part of America" reminds me of Mohammed claiming that his lineage goes back to Ishmael.  But, most of the world believes that and everyone entertains the joke by calling islam "an Abrahamic religion", getting two out three wrong in that short phrase.

23 If you like your Sharia you can keep it, if not tuff shit!

24 I can't really see Michelle being down with the subjugation of women in Islam,

I can't really see Michelle and most of the rest of so called feminists admitting the truth about how women are treated under Islam. 

25

Sharia Law is at odds with our concepts of law and government enshrined in the Constitution and Bill of Rights, as well as Common Law, which in America, has roots going back to Great Britain.

This is frankly not even a Christina versus Muslim thing, so it encompasses everyone that wants to live in a semi-free Republic, with democratic institutions, and an independent judiciary.

A lot of other politicians (such as GWB) have spouted a lot of drivel about Islam, but the last 9 years has been a great educational experience for anyone paying attention. Many more of us are not now so easily fooled by such pap.

Sharia and Islam are ultimately in conflict with what we have believed to be our basic ideas as Americans.  I have no problem with Muslims living among us and everyone minding their own business, but their impingement on the political process is not something that I welcome.

We are approaching, to quote Ronald Reagan in a different sense, a Time for Choosing.

26 We're having to fall back to that point of logic, which asks:  'If Obama were a Muslim, what would he be doing differently?'

27 Nice post, Laura.

28 Yes, Islam has always been a part of America. Why the first Mosque was built here in 1915!

That should tell you something right there. it wasn't until recent times and the unfettered immigration from the ME that the number of Muslims has increased in the U.S.

Yes, we do need some immigration reform. And all these Mosques need to be reclassified as political centers and Islam needs to be classified as a political activity and not a religion.  

29 I can't really see Michelle being down with the subjugation of women in Islam, no matter how confused her ideology is. Doubly so for her little princesses. Those girls are not gonna be Islamified.
 So if Barry is a Muslim, I'd say he's going it alone.
Posted by: lincolntf at August 14, 2010 04:27 PM

In this way, the Traitor-in-Chief is showing the Communist part of his upbringing. In the past, I've known a few card-carrying Reds; all saw themselves as high-living commissars on the Bright New Day, not tractor-drivers or laborers.

Osama Obama sees himself as the Great Leader of his flock, the near-god who need not abide by the rules set for the "little people." His family gets the same pass as well.

30 I don't think he's a muslim, I think he identifies with the muslim hatred of America. Personally I think he's a total narcassist, completely incapable of believing in anything bigger than himself.

31 Actions speak louder than words swirling in a toilet

32 Excellent dissection, and I'm not saying that just because you have a sexy, sexy hump. This sort of rhetoric is the hallmark of Barry's character. A perfect post-modern litany of half-truths, omissions, elliptical reasoning and bald-faced arbitrary assertion that is so invisibly woven, it is difficult to find a seam. Nevertheless the substance of Barry's words is nonexistent. This kind of oratory illustrates why Barry makes so many of us furious. It's evanescent, peremptory, impervious to fact, and out of all reasonable scale, simultaneously. “Islam has always been a part of America’s story." Well, so has witchcraft, Barry. And probably with more justification, historically. You know what else has always been a part of America's story? Potatoes, elevators, accountants, chiropody and demagogues. Especially demagogues, Barry. Hint hint. I don't think I ever detested an elected official in my lifetime as much as this one. Not even Nixon.

33 I'm beginning to think that Obama is the worst Muslim President we have ever had.

34 >>Islam has always been a part of AmericaÂ’s story.

If I were into conspiracies, I would say this is Obama claiming the US as a Muslim land, and therefore ready for conquest.

35

UNCLEFACTS !!!!!  I actually said that today.

Obama will be an openly practicing Muzztard and the EXTRA WIDE IN THE HIDE BURKA will look darling on Michelle Wide as Hell.

36 We're having to fall back to that point of logic, which asks:  'If Obama were a Muslim, what would he be doing differently?'

Posted by: nickless at August 14, 2010 04:33 PM (MMC8r)

Broadcast the call to prayer from the top of the Washington Monument?

37 Let me be clear: under my administration, if you like your fatwa, you can keep your fatwa.

38 MrScribbler, I have learned more about Islam than I ever wanted to know.  It is a religious, political, and legal construct that governs every part of Muslim life, from praying, to eating, and even toilet hygiene.  There are two basic books of Islam, the Quran and the Hadith. 

The Hadith is the compilation of the sayings and preachings of Mohammed.  Because Islam considers Mo the perfect man, everything he said and did is taken as a commandment as if it came from Allah.  That is why Islam is a legal and governmental system in addition to a religion.

39 We're having to fall back to that point of logic, which asks:  'If Obama were a Muslim, what would he be doing differently?'

He'd worship Allah instead of himself.  I'm not sure what that would mean from a policy standpoint.

40 I'm beginning to think that Obama is the worst Muslim President we have ever had. Hey, that also means I'm the bestest Muslim President evar!

41 Laura, beautifully written. (how's that for sucking up?)
Can we begin the coup now, or do we have to wait until everybody's finished their dinner?

42 19 I can't really see Michelle being down with the subjugation of women in Islam, no matter how confused her ideology is. Doubly so for her little princesses. Those girls are not gonna be Islamified.
 So if Barry is a Muslim, I'd say he's going it alone.

Posted by: lincolntf at August 14, 2010 04:27 PM (BCzaE)

I think his marriage to Michelle is one of convenience, and Reverends Wright and Phleger, etc, are nothing but window dressing.  His entire lifestyle was that of a wealthy, privileged, jet-setting, most-likely gay, white elitist Marxist, and he needed street cred.  You think before he moved to Chicago he knew who the fuck Chuck D. and Ice Cube were?  I seriously doubt it.  He probably listened to the Pet Shop Boys and Boy George back then and sucked the cocks of whoever would give him the best cocaine and opium.

43 You guys are giving real conservatives like me and David Frum a bad name. I like pronouncing it "Froom." 'Cause I'm original.

44 We're having to fall back to that point of logic, which asks:  'If Obama were a Muslim, what would he be doing differently?'

Throwing a sack over that beast he's married to.

45 If I were into conspiracies, I would say this is Obama claiming the US as a Muslim land, and therefore ready for conquest.

Posted by: wHodat at August 14, 2010 04:35 PM (+sBB4)

"And one of the points I want to make is, is that if you actually took the number of Muslims Americans, we'd be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world."

-- The indonesian Imbecile

(Of course, by the numbers this is just stupid.  Not as stupid as when the Indonesian Imbecile claimed that 10,000 people had just been killed in the Kansas tornado, when the real number had been 12 ... but close.  It's offensiveness is beyond doubt, though.)

46 If LauraW likes her hump, she can keep her hump, under my plan. But she can't go out in public without a male family escort.

47

Obumble needs to read some history.

The first recognition of the Continental Congress/United States as a legitimate nation by a foreign power occurred on November 16th, 1776.  The guns of Fort Orange (Dutch) answered the ritual salute of the American ship ,Andrew Doria, upon entering the harbor at St. Eustatius.

This was paraphrased from Barbara Tuchman's excellent book "The First Salute".

 

48 It was the same Thomas Jefferson who treated William Eaton and the first Marines like dog doo after a wildly successful mission against the Barbary Pirates.

The same Jefferson who watched the first unconstitutional Supreme Court power grab in Marbury v. Madison and did nothing about it.

That is the Jefferson I know.

49 Bammy can get away with saying crap like that because the press is not going to call him on it and the average American knows very little history.

They get their history from TV and movies that have been washed through a liberal filter.

What little history they get in school now is largely forgotten by the time they graduate from school.

50 Let someone want to put up a cross or a Nativity for Christmas and see how fast this "freedom to practice religion" crowd supports it. Then they'll say those for the cross or Nativity are forcing their religion upon people

51 If you like your head, you can keep your head, with a tax increase.

52 If our POTUS is Muslim can I call him PUSlim?

53 15 Who'd have ever thought "do you love America" would be a necessary or reasonable question to ask a presidential candidate? ------------- I'm looking forward to the "if America was a tree, what kind of tree would it be?" questions in the '12 presidential debates.

54 We're considering filing a civil rights lawsuit to force our inclusion in Disney's flume ride. It's discriminatory to keep us out of Pirates of the Caribbean.

55 U R doing it wrong.

56 "if America was a tree, what kind of tree would it be?"

Parched.

57 The guns of Fort Orange (Dutch) answered the ritual salute of the American ship ,Andrew Doria, upon entering the harbor at St. Eustatius.

The Dutch....

Mensches.

58

I can't really see Michelle and most of the rest of so called feminists admitting the truth about how women are treated under Islam. 

Shame on them for calling themselves femnists.  They are traitors of another kind.

59 YOU PEOPLE ARE A BUNCH OF HILLBILLY RACISTS. GO FUCK YOURSELVES! YOU DESERVE THIS SHIT CAN OF A BLOG. AND YOU WONDER WHY YOUR CONSTANTLY CHARACTERIZED AS EXTEME AND RACIST. HINT, YOU ARE. YOU TRASH YOUR FELLOW AMERICANS THEN TURN AROUND AND LOUDLY PROCLAIM HOW PRO AMERICAN AND WELCOMING YOU ARE OF EVERYONE AND THAT IT'S REALLY THE DEMS WHO ARE THE "BAD ONES". TAKE A GOOD LONG LOOK AT YOURSELVES. YOU MANAGED TO RUN OFF THE ONE LONE BLACK GUY WHO COMMENTED HERE AND NOW YOU TURN ON PEOPLE WHO ARE FROM THE EAST AND WEST COASTS LUMPING MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TOGETHER UNDER SOME ASININE MORONIC STEREOTYPES THAT YOU SEEM TO HOLD NEAR AND DEAR. YOU'RE A BUNCH OF UNDERDEVELOPED HIGH SCHOOLERS.

60 Is there any chance that the talking heads tomorrow morning will pay attention to this story? I'll even tolerate listening to all the idiot Libs so I can hear them snivel and squirm looking for a way to protect Barry.

61 According to Obamahistory then Muslims would have been the first asses we kicked as a nation in a long list of asskickings.

62 Man, I'm bushed.

63 TAKE A GOOD LONG LOOK AT YOURSELVES..

Already got the pants off, Sugartits. 

64 Here we go!

65 The trolls are yelling at us again.

66 Unleash the FURY!

67 So does Barry get his history out of the same books that claim black Egyptians had flying machines three thousand years ago? Because that's really bitchin'.

68 That is the Jefferson I know.

Posted by: Valiant at August 14, 2010 04:42 PM (UKSRV)

One of the only things that saves Jefferson, by my reckoning, is the Louisianna Purchase.  But, true to form, Jefferson had to go back on everything he'd railed about for years in order to do it.  Thank G-d he did, though.

In terms of governing philosophy, I always hated Jefferson. He was for States' rights, and took some good positions, but only because he was a staticist who envisioned a stagnant US full of gentleman farmers. 

69 Man, we're gonna *sue* Red Bull!

70 Liberals kinda go all "jet blue flight attendent" when you point out what a ignorant peice of shit the president is don't they?

71 We chased off a black guy?

Damn...  sorry black guy, whomever you may be.

72 We have always been at war with Eastasia.

73 The trolls are yelling at us again.

And they're not yelling anything useful, like "Fore!"

74 Is there a race variable in Java? Because I'm not even real. I'm just a javascript lost in Pixy's servers. My only activity is to post comments. But I'll be damned if I can tell my race. I can't tell anyone else's, that's for sure.

75 62

Yeah, nothing more ignorant than examining the exact words and deliberate actions of the President in the context of his statements both yesterday and today. What kind of sickos are we?
Anyway, you really need to relax. Just turn off the CAPS lock, put down the drugs, crank the audiobook version of "Dreams From my Father" and let the chakras fly...

76 Could somebody please turn the liberal troll either down or off?

77 crank the audiobook version of "Dreams From my Father" and let the chakras fly...

Flying Chakras.  Fantastic band name. 

78 Damn...  sorry black guy, whomever you may be.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at August 14, 2010 04:51 PM (dgamM).

I just went to the john.  You think I'm leaving a place with this many white women in stompy boots?

79 The US is an Islamic Nation?  It ain't as far fetched as y'all think.  Spain was once an Islamic country, but to a devout Muslim Spain will always be Muslim land, Queen Isabella notwithstanding.  Now, the Western Hemisphere and parts of the US were once Spanish colonies.   Get it?

80 Actually we had 2 black guys here once.  The one left cause he had some problems with his ISP during a move.

The other, well he's getting Bill Clinton some coffee.

81

me.

go away.

and don't come back.

82
Posted by: Me at August 14, 2010 04:46 PM (Lug+6)

Is that you Rahm?

83 The same Jefferson who watched the first unconstitutional Supreme Court power grab in Marbury v. Madison and did nothing about it.

Jefferson spoke heatedly against the ruling but there was very little he could do about it. That was part of the overall conspiracy between Adams and Marshall who engineered the case from beginning to end.

Marshall ruled that the the Judiciary Act (in part) was unconstitutional therefore the Supreme Court did not have jurisdiction to review a writ of mandamus. They also snuck in the theory that the Supreme Court has the sole power of judicial review. This was what Adams and Marshall were after the entire time. A ruling that gave a branch of the federal government the authority to decide what the power of the federal government was.

Since this ruling required no action by congress or the president there was little that Jefferson could do other than publicly state that he disagreed with that ruling.

Also recall that Jefferson was the author of the Kentucky and Virginia resolutions which advanced the theory of State Nullification.

84 Actually, Jefferson's foreign policy reminds me a lot of Bush 43. He didn't want to have to deal with the Muslim world, but when radical Muslims sought war with the US he gave it to them and then some.

Of course Jefferson didn't have to deal with MSM and had a free hand to focus on winning.

Oh, and I prefer the construction, America's first war as a sovereign nation was with radical Islam...

85 The other, well he's getting Bill Clinton some coffee.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at August 14, 2010 04:54 PM (dgamM)

I remember him, he only spoke with a negro dialect when he wanted to. My buddy Harry Reid loved the guy.

86
"We're all black guys now"

-Newsweak

87 Is that you Rahm?

Posted by: Fish at August 14, 2010 04:55 PM (v1gw3)

No way.  He didn't wave his member at us in the shower.

88

One of the worst things about Obamy is that I have to pay for his and his fat assed wife for the rest of MY life.

That sucks.

89
Don't be callin' your cracker ass a black man.

90

At least this Troll can spell and punctuate.

91
Once upon a time in my youth, I was a black boy and worked in Ms. Chester's front yard as a lawn boy.

92 This particular piece of history cannot be rewritten to suit current PC needs. The reasons for the envoy's visit cannot be recast into some pap about multicultural understanding. No fucking kidding. This would be like characterizing MacArthur accepting Hirohito's instrument of surrender on the USS Missouri as "a written recognition of Japanese importance to the US war effort."

93 At least this Troll can spell and punctuate.

I miss spurwing. 

94 America's first war as a sovereign nation was with radical Islam...

Heh. What are the chances President Pitchingwedge even knows that?

95 Don't call me "underdeveloped"

96 Islamic influence in the Spanish architecture in the Western Hemisphere?

No. But that is not the point.

97
At least this Troll can spell and punctuate.

Yea, but can she dance?

98

"Hillbilly Racists" your creativity astounds me.  Did you learn your command of vocabulary in grad school?  I thought Jon Stewart declared the Race Card MAXED OUT.  Listen Auntie Em, race is seldom discussed as a topic here unless it is brought up by the left.

Have you noticed your ranks are getting a little thin?  That's because the 52% is down to the 15% moonbat core.  Dems aren't bad.  They have however let the most left, read progressive, wing of the party take over leadership and most are really regretting it.  I will take a leap here so you can vomit what a hateful self rightous SOB I am.  I think you self loathing, apologist, treasonous, pantie waist, eletist, imbeciles have done a fantastic job of undermining my country. 

 Note:

 I used my because you don't deserve this glorious exercise in self government.

99 At least this Troll can spell and punctuate.

Yea, but can she dance?

Is she a Jew?

100 precisely so.

101 If you like your wookie you can keep her, if not stone her.

102 Remember those cute little kids that did that 52% apology clip right after the election?  I'd love to be a fly on the wall in their mothers' basements now.

103

Jefferson got it.. I can't add anything useful.

 

That motherfuckin dead genius.

104

Yes, she's Jewish, dances HERE, and she loved blow jobs prior to marriage, but hasn't let that nasty thing touch her lips since.

105 Hey Black Guy, may we call  you token

106 I feel sorry for Sasha and Malia. They will have to go through out there lives knowing that their parents were American-hating, bitter, socialists that did everything they could to destroy this country.

107 Posted by: toby928

Wifey is a professor of art & architecture history. She says that most art students go their entire education (and career) with zero exposure to post 7th Century Arabian art (phrased something like that). There's not much to study once Mohammed makes the scene.
Of course since 9/11, they've been forced to squeeze some into the curriculum, but there's not much there there. Scrollwork, minarets, a few odd carpets or murals, but nothing like the art left by the other major Religions.

108 Remember those cute little kids that did that 52% apology clip right after the election?  I'd love to be a fly on the wall in their mothers' basements now.


They should be treated like your house breaking a dog. You have to point out where they shit, take them over to it and make them own it, and then tell them "bad doggy".

109 YOU PEOPLE ARE A BUNCH OF HILLBILLY RACISTS. Blah.. blah.. Blah...

_Translation: WAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! (Sob! Sniffle!) WAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

110

JUST GOT HERE FROM THE EAST COAST, AND THOSE FUCKERS ARE NASTY OVER THERE.  AND THE WEST COAST.  I HAD A BLACK GUY ON THE PLANE NEXT TO ME, BUT I RAN HIM OFF.

SO WHAT'S NEW??

111 Unfuckingbellievable! I had no idea he said anything that stupid.Maybe I should listen or at least read the text......nah,I can't take the strain.

112 Islam has always been a part of America? Yeah, and Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia. So is Islam the 57th state?

113 At least this Troll can spell and punctuate.
was tHat a shot at mE?

114 When you think about, it seems to me that America is perhaps one of the nations in the world with the very least historical amount of domestic contact with islam.  Of course, the whole of the New World benefitted from never having very much contact with islam.

115 We chased the one black guy off? AoS is in technicolor now? I didn't get that memo, wtf Ace!

116 How 'bout Hinduism and Wicca... have they always been a part of the United States, too? Who knew?

117 Obama: "Islam has always been a part of AmericaÂ’s story. The first nation to recognize my country was Morocco. In signing the Treaty of Tripoli in 1796..."

So America began in 1796 or, to be gracious, close enough to 1776 to be "the beginning"? You stupid and disingenuous fuck. America didn't begin during the American Revolution. America, as defined by colonial Europeans, had been around for well over a century and a half, it evolving and developing into the political construct that eventually united. In fact America was forming even before that, however loosely, and as a consequence of conquest. Guess what? They weren't Muslim.

This idiot is illustrating either intent to recreate a new history for the books or a window into his education which clearly exposes an ignorance of the American perspective. Obama does not have American roots. Technically, maybe, but in every other capacity, no.

I still find myself shocked that this fraud is President of the United States. My God, America. What were you smoking?!

118 there is a reason we have "Leathernecks" jug ears is so beyond contempt, I'm actually at a loss for words.... keep hammerin' those nails... you vile piece of detritus...

119 THESE PRETZELS ARE MAKING ME THIRSTY!

120 Of course, the whole of the New World benefitted from never having very much contact with islam. Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 14, 2010 05:10 PM (Qp4DT) Amen, and AMEN. Why do you think white American liberals show such steely resolve in ensuring more and more Muzzies can come here - even as they keep out Northern Europeans?

121 #62  Punctuation please.  Geees, what a mindless rant.  What the hell are you saying?

122
Yea........the 52% have a lot of dick sucking to make up for this carnage.

123 128 Obama: "Islam has always been a part of AmericaÂ’s story. The first nation to recognize my country was Morocco. In signing the Treaty of Tripoli in 1796..." Doesn't that bit of history just go to show that America has ALWAYS been at WAR with Islam?

124 Hi Yo Black Guy, AWAY!.  Cue the Hill William Overture.

125 Damn you LauraW for spoiling my blissfull ignorance of this,the stupidest of all Obama's bullshit utterances!!

126

To the shore of TRIPOLI

We will fight our countries batttles..

on the Land and on the Sea...

 

Just goes to show even further that Obama has NO knowledge of American history.

127

Hi Yo Black Guy, AWAY!. Cue the Hill William Overture.

That's different.

128

 

Isn't it weird we don't have a muslim AoSer? Not a one. Kinda tells you all you need to know about muslims.

We have everyone. Jews, baptists, catlicks, pentecostals, agnostics, women, homos, brown ones, yellow ones, white ones, tards, hinudus, and even a few canadians.

Heck, we even have a witch! Adolfo Vasquez hasn't been here in a while, though.

 

129

Has there every been a bigger Muzztard fuck up than Obama's Daddy.

He was a fuck up of epic proportions, so I ran him off.

Then the mother fucker killed himself.  All hopped up on Malt Liquor.

Allahu Akbar Y'all

130

To the shore of TRIPOLI

We will fight our countries batttles..

on the Land and on the Sea...

 

Just goes to show even further that Obama has NO knowledge of American history.

Well it is a song about or corpse or something.

131
I heard the Corpseman in the Marine Corpse sing that Tripoli thing.

132 Water pouring out from under your fireplace insert during a thunderstorm is a bad sign, isn't it?

133

Isn't it weird we don't have a muslim AoSer? Not a one. Kinda tells you all you need to know about muslims.

We have everyone. Jews, baptists, catlicks, pentecostals, agnostics, women, homos, brown ones, yellow ones, white ones, tards, hinudus, and even a few canadians.

To the best of my knowledge, neither have we any hobos, so there's that. too.

134 Islam has always been a part of the Marine Corps Hymn.

The more things change,...

135 Water pouring out from under your fireplace insert during a thunderstorm is a bad sign, isn't it?

It means your chimney cover is missing in action. Time to climb up on the roof.

136 I bet we've had muslim trolls.

137

This should be fun, check out this tweet:  greggutfeld

  

.@BarackObama You support a mosque near Ground Zero. Fine. Will you show the same support for my gay bar near the mosque?

138 It means your chimney cover is missing in action. Time to climb up on the roof.

He must have ran it off.

139 Herr, I'd wait until the storm passes before going up there.

140 143 Herr, no worries. Its just means its time for a beer.

141 So some of our Founding Fathers had to negotiate and put up with some lying, cheating, murderous muz back in their time.

Migraines and bad teeth were a part of our Founding Fathers' lives too. Don't think we should celebrate those shitty things either.

142 We have everyone. Jews, baptists, catlicks, pentecostals, agnostics, women, homos, brown ones, yellow ones, white ones, tards, hinudus, and even a few canadians.

...and rustlers, cutthroats, murders, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con-men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglars, horse thieves, bull-dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers, and Methodists!

143 It means your chimney cover is missing in action. Time to climb up on the roof.

Posted by: Vic at August 14, 2010 05:20 PM (/jbAw)

Yeah, either it blew off or I lost some flashing.  Had 60 mph winds.  Think I'll wait for the lightning to knock it off, first.  I'm not, like, a moron.....

144 Vic: "Time to climb up on the roof."

And make sure you're well grounded. Lightning can be a real buzzkill.

145
Me is a light fonted, clean troll who can post without using the  cap lock, unless he wants to.

146 From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli, our president will bend America over and let its enemies plow America's squeakhole.

147

 

AoS needs to do some Muslim outreach.

148

I have an atheist friend who's convinced Obama is a closet atheist because he never attends a religious service without giving a shout-out to people of "no religion" (I think he did it at least twice in this speech).

I don't know if he's a Black Liberation Theology adherent, a Muslim, an atheist, or someone who picks beliefs as they suit his ambitions.

I think he has a deep animosity against Judeo-Christian heritage as part of his plan to fundamentally transform the country. Anything traditional, any belief strongly held, is a threat to his plans, it's bitter and clingy. The founders, the Constitution, faith, all must give way to Obama's vision.

149 Damn you shitballs are quick.

150 So on 11-4-08, the terrorists DID win?

151 Obama talks alot about Islam why doesn't he ever talk about Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism or Shintoism? its always Islam, Islam, Islam(Marcia, Marcia.. Marcia!!)

152 The only religion Obama has is the Church of Obama.

153 AoS needs to do some Muslim outreach.

Well, we have plenty of morons with the marksmanship experience to do so.

154 Herr rocks. Views, newsletter, please sign yearbook.

155
AoS needs to do some Muslim outreach.

My favorite outreach to a Muslim!

156 Islam has always been a part of AmericaÂ’s story.


True. It has always been Liberty's enemy.

157 Herr, I would send my wife up to the roof, I'm the main bread winner.

158 The Barbary Pirates are taught in schools about as often as the Muslim Conquest and the other muz looting, banditry, and pillaging long before the Crusades.

159
This is hilarious, should have never opened his stupid mouth about the 9/11 mosque.  Gonna be great watching them step on their dicks for a week trying to backpedal.

160 The only religion Obama has is the Church of Obama.

Posted by: sifty at August 14, 2010 05:27 PM (LlGH/)

I agree. Barry is more like Caligula. An self-centered, narcissistic, immature, egomaniac, self proclaimed deity. Caligula wanted to make his horse a consul. Barry made Kagan a SC judge. The only difference is Caligula didn't hate Rome like Barry hates America

161 Herr, I would send my wife up to the roof, I'm the main bread winner.

Not until I know if it's a boy or a girl.

162

Posted by: Palandine at August 14, 2010 05:26 PM (+ho3C)

It's hard to tell. I don't think he's atheist because he goes out of his way to bow to Muslims and can never shut up about Islam. On the other hand, if he was Muslim, how could he sit in a "Christian" church for twenty years?

Whatever he is I think you're right on the animosity towards the foundation of this country.

163

Muzzlims invented lightning.

 

164 Water pouring out from under your fireplace insert during a thunderstorm is a bad sign, isn't it? Herr, have you the proper permit for a fireplace insert with running water? Is it flowing within water conservation limits? And have you given equal opportunities to an ethnically diverse set of plumbers or handymen for any necessary repair? Until you are withing municipal guidelines you are not permitted to alter your current fireplace insert configuration. You may apply to the Office of Chimney and Stack Reclamation for an appointment, Wednesday through Friday only. However, if you are of Muslim faith, you may immediately exercise your First Amendment rights to fireplace flood abatement without a need for a permit or delay. You may be eligible for a tax credit for this outreach work.

165 Let me be clear, Cthulhu has always been part of America. And today the diversity of our great nation is all the more richer for having The Great Old Ones patiently waiting to devour the souls of all Americans. 

166 Posted by: a lackey of Mayor Bloomberg at August 14, 2010 05:36 PM (AZGON)

Yeah.  I do like the 500 yd fields of fire around this place......

167 well i'm wondering how the left woukd feel about the metal girder cross being put back in place  on the fron of a new wtc structure?

168 172 good call, you never know if you may have the next Joe Montana on your hands.

169 Hentai has always been part of America. In the Jefferson White House, the first Cherry Blossom festival included a presentation by the Japanese Embassy of Tentacle-porn themed origami.

170

Joe Montana was the best Muzzlim qb of all time.

 

171 Mooselims invented fireplaces.

172 Let me be clear, Cthulhu has always been part of America. And today the diversity of our great nation is all the more richer for having The Great Old Ones patiently waiting to devour the souls of all Americans. I would be 110% behind erecting a Church of Starry Wisdom on the ruins of Cordoba House.

173

 

Mohammed brought down from heaven and put into the Koran not religious doctrines only, but political maxims, criminal and civil laws, and scientific theories. The Gospels, on the other hand, deal only with the general relations between man and God and between man and man. Beyond that, they teach nothing and do not oblige people to believe anything. That alone, among a thousand reasons, is enough to show that Islam will not be able to hold its power long in ages of enlightenment and democracy, while Christianity is destined to reign in such ages, as in all others.

--Alex de Tocqueville

Cut Through The Bullshit, Vol I

174 Europeans picked up the African slave trade from muslims.  So, there was that.

175

To the best of my knowledge, neither have we any hobos, so there's that. too. - Herr Morgenholz

We need to have a hobo outreach, to equip our homeless brothers with wireless internet access so they won't be discriminated against, and can join in the commentary at AoS, when the spirit(s) move them.

176 On the other hand, if he was Muslim, how could he sit in a "Christian" church for twenty years?

If you are talking about the Trinity United Church of Christ it is only a "Christian Church" for tax purposes.

It is actually a political organization dedicated to redistribution as a punishment for evil whites. 

That is why Bammy was there.

177 Obama is hemmed in like a whore in a crawlspace over this now. I bet Baghdad Bob Gibbs is sweating all over his cabana boy about polishing this latest Obama verbal turd.

178
Has anyone seen a picture of Barack eating bacon? Bacon has always been a part of America.

179 "Islam has always been part of America."

Much like shit stains and skid marks have always been a part of too much Mexican food.

One of the first tasks for The Marines was to take a little boat ride and bitch slap the muzzie pirates. I think they put it in a catchy little march tune I heard a few times.

180 “Scientology has always been a part of America’s story. The first aliens to recognize my country were Thetans. In signing the Treaty of Hubbard in 18,373 BC, our second President John Travolta wrote, “The United States has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or financial dealings of Scientologists.”

181 Has anyone seen Drudge's headline underneath a (goofy) picture of Obama?

182 Don't confuse Barry with historical facts.  He still thinks the U.S. is one of the world's largest Muslim countries.  And he's still insisting that Muslim Americans have made many "extraordinary contributions" to our nation (although he can't think of any examples off the top of his head -- he'll have to get back to you on that).

183 Obama is hemmed in like a whore in a crawlspace over this now. I bet Baghdad Bob Gibbs is sweating all over his cabana boy about polishing this latest Obama verbal turd.

Posted by: Neebs at August 14, 2010 05:43 PM (LlGH/)

Poetry.

184 That is why Bammy was there.

Posted by: Vic at August 14, 2010 05:43 PM (/jbAw)

Yeah that's kind of the idea I've had too but you put a finer point on it.

185 Christ we missed a trick back then. We should have depopulated the entire frickin' North African coastline and cleared out the Levant while we were at it. Since the goat-molesters call us Crusaders anyway, might as well be a tag with some history behind it. The Mohammedans had been spreading their extra-special message of peace and love via slave raids and razzias for over a millennium by that point. Jefferson should have had the Bey of Algiers' head on a pike, and such thunderous bloodshed among the benighted that they fear to let their shadow fall upon one of us for ten thousand years. Oderint dum metuant. Or, as Billy Joel would say: we didn't start the fire.

186 Politico. A whole garbage can full of journalice and failure.

187 Has anyone seen Drudge's headline underneath a (goofy) picture of Obama?

Posted by: Tami at August 14, 2010 05:46 PM (VuLos)

Too sweet.  That'll leave a mark.

188 In other news...Tiger is pounding the poultry at the PGA.

189 190

I know he ate at a well known BBQ (pork) joint when he was vacationing (surprise, surprise) here in NC last year. If he's a Muslim, that's another one of the tenets that he's skipping.

190 Nitpickers. Sheesh. Next thing, you'll be telling me that the Selma March of 1965 happened after I was born in 1961, even though I said it was the Selma March that got my parents to have sex long enough to produce me. You rednecks have got to get past this obsession with causality.

191 Obama On Prop 8


Obama said that Gay Marriage is a reminder that Homosexuality has always been part of America.

192 Has Shiek Ace decreed his latest Fatwah?

He's sleeping off a Valu-Rite and bacon bender.  Here.  Have a beer.

193 Booker T. Washington invented Islam out of a peanut.

194

I have an atheist friend who's convinced Obama is a closet atheist

He certainly lives as though he has no fear of God (or Allah).

195 Tiger is pounding the poultry at the PGA.

He prefers the white meat, right?

196 As-Salamu Alaykum I like salamu on rye.

197 Obama said that Gay Marriage is a reminder that Homosexuality has always been part of America.

*giggle*

198 And he's still insisting that Muslim Americans have made many "extraordinary contributions" to our nation (although he can't think of any examples off the top of his head -- he'll have to get back to you on that).

Posted by: AZC at August 14, 2010 05:48 PM (P/M3M)

They occupy the same nonexistent space in his tiny skull as his favorite White Sox players.

Sloppy lies of convenience that Zero has frequently spouted and is never called on to prove.

199 He prefers the white meat, right?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 14, 2010 05:53 PM

 

Breasts and inner thighs

200 Posted by: James Buchanan at August 14, 2010 05:55 PM (U/eda) Fag.

201 As-Salamu Alaykum

Ass Salami I Like Cum?

Is that like pig-latin?

202

The muzzie, rauf, that wants to build that mosquewrote a book after 9/11.   In English it is translated as "WhatÂ’s Right With Islam: A New Vision For Muslims and the West".

In Muslim-ruled Malaysia, where the jakoff spends a great deal of his time, it was published as "A Call To Prayer From the World Trade Center Rubble: Islamic Dawa in the Heart of America Post-9/11".

Somebody should shove a copy up Bloomberg's ass, take it out, and then shove it in Obama's mouth.

http://tiny.cc/iwrqj

 

 

203 looks like me shot his wad and crawled back under his rock.

204

Maybe he's running for office in the moslem world.

205 From Palin's Facebook page:

Legitimate Questions for the President

by Sarah Palin on Saturday, August 14, 2010 at 5:34pm

Mr. President, should they or should they not build a mosque steps away from where radical Islamists killed 3000 people? Please tell us your position. We all know that they have the right to do it, but should they? And, no, this is not above your pay grade. If those who wish to build this Ground Zero mosque are sincerely interested in encouraging positive "cross-cultural engagement" and dialogue to show a moderate and tolerant face of Islam, then why haven't they recognized that the decision to build a mosque at this particular location is doing just the opposite? Mr. President, why aren't you encouraging the mosque developers to accept Governor Paterson's generous offer of assistance in finding a new location for the mosque on state land if they move it away from Ground Zero? Why haven't they jumped at this offer? Why are they apparently so set on building a mosque steps from what you have described, in agreement with me, as "hallowed ground"? I believe these are legitimatequestions to ask.

206 This is the BEST paranoid ranting I've red here in a while! Keep up the great work! America needs paranoid folks just like you to be great again! We must reject sharia law in the United States, even if there's no evidence of any! Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom! Freedom for everyone except for those filthy dirty muslims!

207 I like daring people to look me in the eye and say they still trust the goofy fucker in the White House they elected.

208

Its not that farfetched. Just remember that his church was nothing more than the Nation of Islam with Mohammed with a line through and Jesus written above it.

Posted by: buzzion at August 14, 2010 05:45 PM (oVQFe)

That's true. I'm technically a member of the Methodist church and over the past few years I've seen and heard things regarding an allegiance to liberalism that makes me increasingly uncomfortable.

So yeah, a church might not be what it seems.

209
I will not let a gap develop between our nation and France in the number of automobiles burned nightly by youths of unidentified ethnicity. So today I am announcing our new "Midnight Mecca Torchlight" program...

210 Posted by: JEA at August 14, 2010 05:57 PM (my+Su)

He's not with me.

211 Trolls are still hoping that the alligators will eat them last.

212

 Freedom for everyone except for those filthy dirty muslims!

 

And the congregation says amen.

213

America.

Killing Moslem terrorists since 1979.

214 On a semi-related front I finally got around to watching The Book of Eli yesterday.  It was a very moving movie and really good right up until the very last scene when they showed the bookshelf with the Qur'an.

I didn't understand why they included that last scene unless it was to downgrade the premise of the entire movie.

I wont belabor it in case some of the other Morons have not seen it yet. It would be hard to discuss that movie w/o including a LOT of spoilers.

215 210 Exactly...lmao

216 Legitimate Questions for the President by Sarah Palin on Saturday, August 14, 2010 at 5:34pm There she goes again, proving her lack of judgment. Everyone knows that conservatives must be silent on what others do with private property. Did you know I won a pretty trophy from CPAC? You can buy gold and mortgages on my website.

217 No matter how much of his jizz on your chin or his shit on your nose, JEA, Obama will never pick you for his kickball team.

ever.

218 How about the Hindus, bluelips?

219 In other news...Tiger is pounding the poultry at the PGA.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 14, 2010 05:49 PM (ACkZp)

That should make Corey Pavin's decision a little easier.

220

If you don't want to read the PJM article all the way through, here is a shorter article @ NRO that tells about the book the shitwad wrote.

http://tiny.cc/yaf2l

 

 

221 Me! Me! Press Me!

222 In other news...Tiger is pounding the poultry at the PGA.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 14, 2010 05:49 PM (ACkZp)

That should make Corey Pavin's decision a little easier.

Posted by: ErikW at August 14, 2010 06:02 PM (kCdah)

He just stuck a 5 iron to 18 inches on the par 3 17th.  How far short will he leave the birdie putt?

223 @6

I am starting to seriously think that when he leaves office, he's going to out himself as a practicing muslim.

See Blair, Tony - Catholicism and, pages 217 thru 224

224 And let me add that while the shot turned out fine, his swing looked like mine.  Dropped the shit out of his left shoulder and dug out a fucking beaver pelt.  From a tee.

225 231 no shit, I didn't catch that. I enjoyed the movie well. Hmmm, chalk it up to Hollywierd PC? Denzel seems like a decent dude...waiting for him to blow it, I have no faith in hollywood types.

226 This is the BEST paranoid ranting I've red here in a while! Keep up the great work! America needs paranoid folks just like you to be great again! We must reject sharia law in the United States, even if there's no evidence of any! Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom! Freedom for everyone except for those filthy dirty muslims!

Posted by: JEA at August 14, 2010 05:57 PM (my+Su)

Really. What else have you RED on here? I don't RED any paranoid. Maybe you can point out where you RED this paranoia. You are the kind of useful idiot who's empty head they'll lop off first. Dipshit

227

The muzzie, rauf, that wants to build that mosquewrote a book after 9/11.   In English it is translated as "WhatÂ’s Right With Islam: A New Vision For Muslims and the West".

In Muslim-ruled Malaysia, where the jakoff spends a great deal of his time, it was published as "A Call To Prayer From the World Trade Center Rubble: Islamic Dawa in the Heart of America Post-9/11".

Somebody should shove a copy up Bloomberg's ass, take it out, and then shove it in Obama's mouth.

http://tiny.cc/iwrqj

 

 Thanks Steph... I sent that everywhere. 

228 Anybody wanna get a beer?

229 I'm technically a member of the Methodist church

It's no surprise that a church that is theologically liberal is also politically liberal.

230 I am starting to seriously think that when he leaves office, he's going to out himself as a practicing muslim.

Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Pro Debate Squad, And Summoner Of Meteors. at August 14, 2010 04:14 PM (eCAn3)

It will be well before that.

231 Hey ME did you change you moniker to JEA??

232 Two T-storms came through.  73 degrees.......  Ahhhhh.

233 The Big Fraud is pushing for an Islamic-socialist takeover of everything as soon as he can get it.

234 Just because one has a right to do something doesn't mean it's right to do it.

235 If Obama wins the primary for 2012, he may come out of the goat closet in order to stir up the base and give the idiots something else "historic" to vote for.

236

Somebody should shove a copy up Bloomberg's ass, take it out, and then shove it in Obama's mouth.

http://tiny.cc/iwrqj

Posted by: Steph at August 14, 2010 05:56 PM (580hG)

Steph, this is another site that has info on the guy.  The site is run by former muslims, e.g., Walid Shoebat.  They've done research on Rauf and translate some of the stuff that he tells the Islamic media.  Very eye opening.

http://tinyurl.com/2dhz3dw

237 By the way, devil worship has not always been a part of America.

238 Freedom for everyone except for those filthy dirty muslims!

The Scandis..don't forget the Scandis!

239 223 This is the BEST paranoid ranting I've red here in a while! Keep up the great work! America needs paranoid folks just like you to be great again! We must reject sharia law in the United States, even if there's no evidence of any! Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom! Freedom for everyone except for those filthy dirty muslims!

Posted by: JEA at August 14, 2010 05:57 PM (my+Su)

Hey, when they start beheading people they don't like, why don't you prove us all wrong and test out your theory? I'm sure that whole Nick Berg thing was a youtube hoax, right?

240

Timbo @ 246...Sure, although honestly, I almost wish I hadn't read it.   I already knew in my heart wth is going on, but to have that article actually confirm it makes it harder to take.

I already feared for my country.    This just adds another layer of dread that is hard to tamp down.

 

241 A subject I know well: Tastee Sub Shop in Edison, and North Brunswick, NJ. The 1st Fraud visited the Edison location recently. Ordered a six inch, Number 5: "The Super Sub". Ham, Salami, real porky. The WH released 60 or so photos from that photo op (a meeting with "small Business"). See a single image of a single bite by Obummer outta that #5 Super Sub? Nope.

242 It's no surprise that a church that is theologically liberal is also politically liberal.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at August 14, 2010 06:13 PM (5aVkt)

It was a surprise to me. I've only been going to church there for a few years and imagine my goofy-looking WTF face when the Pastor starts extolling the greatness of Obama.

243 If Kerry can throw medals over the fence, can we throw bacon?

244 I am starting to seriously think that when he leaves office, he's going to out himself as a practicing muslim. --- It will be well before that. Well, why not? What has he to lose? He doesn't seem to mind sucking up to Islamic theocracies or spitting in the face of the memory of 9/11. It's not like the MFM will have anything but praise for such a miraculous and daring "maturation" of The President's "faith."

245 Well, why not? What has he to lose? He doesn't seem to mind sucking up to Islamic theocracies or spitting in the face of the memory of 9/11.

It's not like the MFM will have anything but praise for such a miraculous and daring "maturation" of The President's "faith."

Posted by: George Orwell at August 14, 2010 06:18 PM (AZGON)

Don't forget bravery.

246
I was born a poor white child to sharecropper's in Mississippi, but by the grace of God, I was converted into a strong Negro woman destined to become a member of the House of Representatives and see the first black president elected in America.  God Bless America and barbecued pork too!

247 Two T-storms came through.  73 degrees.......  Ahhhhh.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 14, 2010 06:14 PM (U/eda)

Same here. Cable went out in the first storm so I don't get to see Tiger's trainwreck. Sounds like he needs to shop around for a decent swing coach.

248 If Kerry can throw medals over the fence, can we throw bacon? Perhaps shoes would be more apropos.

249 Barak Obama could saw Bill O'Reilly's head off on live TV while screaming allah snackbar and the MFM would just cut to commercial.

250

Tami @ 255...I don't know if I really want any more of what I already know actually confirmed.    I'll save your link for another time, maybe when I can get sloppy-ass drunk and pass out afterwards.

Thanks!

251 243 Herr, I feel your pain, I shot a 96 this morn. 247 I'm into number 4 as we speak but who's counting.

252 They all look like Christians to me.

253 People think The Kenyan is smart...he's a vapid, vacuous, narcissistic asshole. And he's wrong.

254 So if I sit here with you morons, I'm not drinking alone, right? Knew I could find a loophole.

255

All there was, in the beginning, was the Nation of Islam, and most muslims in the world didn't consider them real muslims.  Then our immigration policy really started bringing them in, in the 90's.  Before that, almost all of the arabs who emigrated to the US were Christians who were being chased out by the muslims.

When I was going for my BA. (Carter Years) we had dozens of Iranian foreign exchange students. If you smoked pot in the dorms you had to towel the door, spray Ozium, etc.The college police had hard-on to bust you. Your fate depended upon your Resident Advisor.

The Iranians OTOH smoked dope openly on college property -- right on campus street corners-- where the campus cops ignored them..They were usually discreet enough to do it after dark. They smoked out of enormous, garish pipes while wearing a fez. Balloon pants - check, turbans - check, curly toed shoes - check, big handlebar mustaches - check.

It was like watching an Abbot and Costello act, in color, live.

When one Iranian student died in a car crash the college sent messengers to each class in session with Iranian students to inform of the death of their fellow Iranian. The result was a bunch of Iranians running out of classes at top speed. It turned out he was a major cocaine dealer.

Everything was hunky-dory until the Iranian revolution. The next semester none of the Iranians students  were there.

I wonder where their bones are now.

256 I'm workin' a $13.99 Miller High Life dem-cession special 30 Pack. So technically, sifty, you are not alone.

257 "...for a decent swing coach."

Swinging is how he got into this mess!!!

258 Um, by the by, remember this? And afterward consider how much Barry actually respects other religions. Almost makes you wonder which one he follows. L A Times top of the ticket blog Obama White House ordered coverup of religious symbols for Georgetown speech April 16, 2009 | 3:39 pm Surprising word today that President Barack Obama's White House asked Georgetown University to cover all religious symbols at the scene of the president's economic speech at the Roman Catholic institution Wednesday.

259 261 I've ate there often, never again. Its a shame they make a mean sammich.

260 I feel better. I have a break from the 2yo today, got my chores done, got the dry rub on the spare ribs, and needed a few Sam Adams. That mean fucker Bill W gets on my case if I drink alone.

261 A muslim supporting muslim expansion. Send Obama back to Kenya. Lord knows he's given them enough of our tax dollars and supported their communist constitution.

262 "So if I sit here with you morons, I'm not drinking alone, right? " Taxidermy & poltergeists also count as drinking partners.

263 277 A++

264 Taxidermy & poltergeists also count as drinking partners. I was sort of hoping mirrors counted.

265

Mohammed is the  mob boss of religion (islam).  allah is a STONE IDOL.  Mohammed was a thug.  His "god" was a stone idol. He knew it was bullshit, but used it to manipulate the stupid masses. 

What kind of religion would find it to be okay to sell their daughters into prostitution?  Is it in any way sane that Iran should "hire" temporary brides  (making prostitutes out of children - by paying off their fathers to sell them, or even threatening fathers to sell their children  , and then accuse other nations of being decadent?  And what kind of people would defend such a religion?

So many people in high places don't seem to think there's anything wrong with all of this.  Does reason exist anymore, or are we already in hell?

266 I vote we are already in Hell or at least in the foyer waiting for the elevator.

267 Does reason exist anymore, or are we already in hell?

Posted by: Dianne at August 14, 2010 06:36 PM (ImL0Z)

I feel like I've been in hell since Nov '08.

268 MFM doing spin control for Ogabe right now on Evening News
Hiding the controversial comments and saying
"The uproar is only the Right Wing Noise Machine.....

269 We can't be in hell, I'm eating a yummy ice cream treat. I think it's called a "Choco Taco". Hell doesn't have sugar cones.

270 The MFM, spinning chicken salad into chicken shit since 1968. We are seriously gonna need more street lights.

271 True Linc, the beer wouldn't be this cold and delicious in Hell. We must be still in the foyer.

272

Posted by: George Orwell at August 14, 2010 06:27 PM (AZGON)

Remember when he did the same thing at Notre Dame?

Why oh why would you make a speech from a place that holds some sort of religious significance for people and then cover the symbolism up?

I think it's because he wants to get everybody used to the idea of a secular society. So much so that religious institutions are converted to to atheism. 

273 Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom! Freedom for everyone except for those filthy dirty muslims!

Posted by: JEA at August 14, 2010 05:57 PM (my+Su)

They have Mosques all over the city.

Why there?

cnn aug 5 2010 :Yesterday New York City's landmarks commission voted unanimously to deny historic status to the Park Place site, clearing the way for construction of Cordoba House, also known as Park51.

The name Cordoba House

christoper hitchens, Slate monday aug 09, 2010.

 don't like anything much about the Cordoba Initiative or the people who run it. The supposed imam of the place, Feisal Abdul Rauf, is on record as saying various shady and creepy things about the original atrocity. Shortly after 9/11, he told 60 Minutes, "I wouldn't say that the United States deserved what happened, but the United States policies were an accessory to the crime that happened." He added, "In the most direct sense, Osama Bin Laden is made in the USA." More recently, he has declined to identify the racist and totalitarian Hamas party as being guilty of the much less severe designation of terrorist. We are all familiar by now with the peddlers of such distortions and euphemisms and evasions, many of them repeated by half-baked secular and Christian spokesmen. A widespread cultural cringe impels many people to the half-belief that it's better to accommodate "moderates" like Rauf as a means of diluting the challenge of the real thing. So for the sake of peace and quiet, why not have Comedy Central censor itself or the entire U.S. press refuse to show the Danish cartoons?

274 I like doing Muslim outreach. I prefer 30-06 when doing so!

275 After reading this thread I wonder why the fuck Ace was so snarky/nasty to me yesterday. 
Oh that's right. I didn't say anything nice about black people today so I'm unworthy to comment.

276 Obama flips his lid about Israel building apartments in FRIGGEN Jerusalem, but gives his blessing to to a Victory Mosque in the shadow of Ground Zero...at a dinner honoring an Islamic holiday. If he's not a muslim, I don't know who the hell is.

277 Caution: This statement is not meant for Muslims

278

 

we need to reach out to the fish sticks

279

 

fish stick community, rather

280 Didn't Obama mention something in that same speech about muhammadans, "like all religions, respect the 'Golden Rule'"?

Didn't Spencer have a debate with a cleric who insisted that their is no such thing as the 'Golden Rule' only allah's will?

281 Obama had them cover up all the religious symbols for the same reason muz men make their wives cover up. To prove who the master is. To show his power.

Either that, or my second guess is that anything holy makes his skin burn.

282 Twilight Craze, Obama Precedentcy...sucking the lifeblood and masculinity out of the country...coincidence? hmmmm

283 Didn't Obama mention something in that same speech about muhammadans, "like all religions, respect the 'Golden Rule'"?

Didn't Spencer have a debate with a cleric who insisted that their is no such thing as the 'Golden Rule' only allah's will?

Posted by: Druid at August 14, 2010 06:58 PM (PGPpp)

The guys at Powerline had some rather incisive observations about Obozo's apparent belief that every religion can be boiled down to the Golden Rule.  The point is that this is an imbecile's view of religion, especially as it applies to islam.  (In islam, the rule is more like, "Do unto others exactly as I do, or I'll kill you.)  If you haven't seen it, here's the link.  http://tinyurl.com/26cglje

284 Damn. Even hacks like the Obama Administration have got to feel the sting on these issues when they read this stuff. Especially the ones that are just whores for his slush fund.

285 Didn't Spencer have a debate with a cleric who insisted that their is no such thing as the 'Golden Rule' only allah's will?

Posted by: Druid at August 14, 2010 06:58 PM (PGPpp)

I don't know what Spencer said, but the Golden Rule is for individualistic religions/ideologies only.  You couldn't have the Golden Rule in islam, since shame - the main control mechanism for islam - isn't based on an individual's actions, but public knowledge of an individual's actions.  Nothing in islam addresses the sanctity of the individual.  In fact, islam works hard to destroy any hint of individualism, which is the point of making muslims kiss the ground 5 times a day.  It is constantly pounded into muslims how totally worthless and insignificant they are as individuals.  The Golden Rule could NEVER part of that sort of system.

Of course, muzzies could steal the name, "Golden Rule", totally pervert its meaning, and then claim that the Jews and Christians (the Jewish Golden Rule of Hillel is the contra-positive of Jesus') lied about it in their canonical texts, in order to deceive the world ... just as Mohammed did with the story of the sacrifice of Isaac (revealed to really have been Ishmael by Mohammed) or the crucifixion of Jesus (determined to have been someone else, as per Mohammed's idea of truth).  Muzzies love doing that.  Steal shit.  Screw it up.  Accuse the creators of having lied about it.  The Precedent loves this tack, too.  What a surprise.

286 President Obama a liberal [progressive] cherry picks history or takes a small slice of history to make a point, all the time to suit his needs.

287 If you think that you're pissed off now, wait 'til the loonies want to put Obama on Mt. Rushmore, and to declare his birthday as a national holiday, too. Brace yourself, it's coming.

288 You couldn't have the Golden Rule in islam, since shame - the main control mechanism for islam - isn't based on an individual's actions, but public knowledge of an individual's actions.

I need to add at the end,

"or public knowledge of someone else's actions towards the individual or his group, as shame cannot exist without someone ELSE knowing what happened, unlike guilt which is a totally private mechanism that requires no ones knowledge but the individual, himself."

289 Sometimes Yoda sounds like Oprah.  That headcold voice thing.

290 _{(Psssst, with my post at 711, I think that I just ruined progressoverpeace's weekend.)}

291 You have Ramadan happening and there's supposed to be like you know religious tolerance and understanding for muslims during their holy time.  As opposed to the Christmas season where Christians are supposed to hide the religious symbolism to show religious tolerance and understanding of others who don't celebrate it as a religious holiday.

Posted by: buzzion at August 14, 2010 06:55 PM (oVQFe)

Yeah, fuck that.

Thankfully, I live in a somewhat rural area so my trips into the big city are few and far between but sometimes I wish there was the equivalent of a Confederate flag that I could hang off my truck just to piss off Muslims.

292 Obama had them cover up all the religious symbols for the same reason muz men make their wives cover up. To prove who the master is. To show his power.

Either that, or my second guess is that anything holy makes his skin burn.

Posted by: sifty at August 14, 2010 06:58 PM (LlGH/)

He certainly used his power and influence to defile a supposedly religious institution. A friend of mine came back from school at ND and she said that the place has gone completely lib.

Their football team sucks ass too so I think we can write THAT college off now.

293 sometimes I wish there was the equivalent of a Confederate flag that I could hang off my truck just to piss off Muslims.

Try the Swedish flag.

294

Try the Swedish flag.
Posted by: Vic at August 14, 2010 07:53 PM (/jbAw)

I'm unfamiliar with that history, what happened?

I like buzzion's idea except I'd just make the flag from the Templar's tunic, red cross, flared at the ends on a white background.

295 _{(Psssst, with my post at 711, I think that I just ruined progressoverpeace's weekend.)}

Posted by: Perspectives at August 14, 2010 07:30 PM (sYrWB)

You know ... just as long as his mug stays off of the money ...  Although that would be funny, as it would immortalize another one of his "most retarded statements ever",

"I donÂ’t look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills."

I really do find that Columbia/Hah-vahd level English to be very impressive.  Awe inspiring, I would say.

296

Obama took a more hardline position than the PLO in opposing even 'natural growth' in Jerusalem, putting him in the HAMAS (Muslim Brotherhood) camp.  The PLO couldn't be more reasonable than the US president, so now no negotiations are possible.  

Obama just gave the mega-monstrosity mosque a shot in the arm when the Muslim Brotherhood shill was feeling the pressure to move it, and was reported to be considering a new location.

Everything Obama has done throughout his presidency has favored the extreme Islamist, jihadi, global-sharia-pushing, caliphate-seeking MB types of Muslims.  Thus further marginalizing the secular moderates.  You know, the vast majority beleagured minority of Muslims.

 

297 Isn't the Cross of St. George what English Crusaders wore on their tunics?

298 Maybe Sarah Palin should repeat some of this shit.

299

As for Obama doing a Stalinesque rewrite of history concerning the Barbary Wars, I actually typed a sarcastic post maybe a week ago when the topic of "great Muslim gifts to America" came up.  I mentioned building up the US Navy and the butt plug bomb.

Obama only stole one of those, in his own unique style of ahistorial and deeply Orwellian agitprop. 

300 BTW: September 11 this year coincides with Eid al-Fitr, the end-of-Ramadan holiday.

So, lay in the bottled water and check the batteries in the emergency radio.

301 I think Obama is right: Islam has always been part of America's story. From the Barbary pirates to the slave trade, Islam fighting against America and the west in WWI, siding with Hitler in WWII, the massacre at the Munich Olympics, the seizing of our embassy in Iran, the modern age of domestic and international terrorism and the wars in Bosnia, Iraq, Afghanistan, America has always had a close familiarity with Islam.

302 can capsaicin hp replace viagra? is it available in suppositories?

303 I wish the Democrats hadn't gotten away with nominating McCain.

304 Isn't the Cross of St. George what English Crusaders wore on their tunics?

Posted by: Rum still wants to be at Epcot at August 14, 2010 08:21 PM (gofDd)

Yes and for some reason that I can't remember, the flared ends of the red cross were significant to the Templars.

305 BTW: September 11 this year coincides with Eid al-Fitr, the end-of-Ramadan holiday.

So, lay in the bottled water and check the batteries in the emergency radio.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 14, 2010 08:28 PM (PBNpM)

They're not going to hit NYC, not with their new mosque going up. Muslims are just being dickbags about it. An act of terrorism doesn't have to be violent to be effective.

Of course, they could hit Chicago or Seattle or some other worthless city.

306 Speaking of golf -  A woman golfer comes into the pro shop and tells the pro who is behind the counter if he had anything for a bee sting.  The proasks her where she was stung.  She says "In the rough between the first and second  hole."  The pro immediately tells her "I can tell right now that you are using too wide a stance,"

307

A foursome of ladies tees off from the reds. The third one slices deep towards a foursome of guys on an adjoining fairway.

Before the lady can yell, "Fore!" the guy doubles over and rolls all over the ground clutching his hands to his crotch, writhing in pain.

The lady runs over and begins to massage his cock. "I'm so sorry," she says. "I'm a massage therapist and I promise I'll take care of you."

Through his pain, the golfer replies, "That feels great lady but my thumb still hurts like hell!"

308

When we speak of Ground Zero as hallowed ground, what we mean is that it belongs to those who suffered and died there -- and that such ownership obliges us, the living, to preserve the dignity and memory of the place, never allowing it to be forgotten, trivialized or misappropriated.

That's why Disney's early '90s proposal to build an American history theme park near Manassas Battlefield was defeated by a broad coalition fearing vulgarization of the Civil War (and wiser than me; at the time I obtusely saw little harm in the venture).

 It's why the commercial viewing tower built right on the border of Gettysburg was taken down by the Park Service. It's why while no one objects to Japanese cultural centers, the idea of putting one up at Pearl Harbor would be offensive.

And why Pope John Paul II ordered the Carmelite nuns to leave the convent they had established at Auschwitz. He was in no way devaluing their heartfelt mission to pray for the souls of the dead. He was teaching them a lesson in respect: This is not your place, it belongs to others.

Krauthammer@Herald Tribune.

309 Surprising word today that President Barack Obama's White House asked Georgetown University to cover all religious symbols at the scene of the president's economic speech at the Roman Catholic institution Wednesday.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 14, 2010 06:27 PM (AZGON)

That's right. Didn't the son of a bitch say something about not wanting to offend those who aren't Christian or some bullshit like that? Yet he's all for building a mosque. He's all for religious tolerance as long it's only Islam

310 #324,  Hey,  a cross,  George,  crusaders...it's a Trifecta of Obama annoyances!

Works for me!

311

and why is it : Obama will say :clinging to their bibles and such, bitterly.

but be very sensitive to an Iman that said america is responsible in part for 9-11?

and wants to build a mosque close to 9-11 site?

312

I just arrived home from a concert by the Air Force Band, it was terrific!  Of course they do a medley of all the songs of the various branches of the military.  It gave me a reason to tell my youngest what the words of the Marine song really mean ("from the halls of Montezume to the SHORES OF TRIPOLI!!!")

She's in high school, and never knew that the Marines were formed during Jefferson's presidency, specifically to pound the Barbary pirates back to the stone age from whence they came. 

313 The biggest influence Islam has had on American history occurred on one single day.

314

She's in high school, and never knew that the Marines were formed during Jefferson's presidency, specifically to pound the Barbary pirates back to the stone age from whence they came. 

 

How about 10 November 1775. 

315 Obama Bowdlerized the Adams quote to make it politically correct.  The actual quote is "“The United States has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of the Mussel-men.”

316 #22  MrScribbler  Aug 14 at 4:29 PM

"Some poster said yesterday that Islam is not so much a religion as it is (I'm paraphrasing) a complete political/social/religious system. Its ultimate goal is not to serve God, but to destroy all who don't follow its beliefs and savage practices."
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In case you haven't seen this, it's a very interesting post about Islam.  The author says that viewing Islam as a meme-plex helps in understanding why it's been so VERY successful at spreading its core beliefs faithfully and widely (even though the belief system is not necessarily beneficial for the individual humans who "host" the meme):
http://tinyurl.com/pp52nt

As far as "serving God", I suppose it depends on which god you're talking about.  According to Islamic understanding, the Quran is the absolutely LITERAL word of God; as such it is perfect, unchangeable, and eternal.  Yet when Mohammed, the prophet of Islam, announced some teachings that directly contradicted EARLIER revelations, Mohamm--sorry, I meant "Allah"-- announced that "sometimes I think of a better thing", so that when he contradicts earlier teachings, he's giving the new, improved Eternal Verity.  Not that the earlier version is wrong, mind you.  It just depends on the circumstances whether to claim "There is no compulsion in religion", or whether "Slay the Infidel wherever you find him" is the proper choice.  We know that Allah approved of Mohammed  --he praised the prophet as "The Perfect Man, Worthy of Emulation"--  yet this prophet surrounded himself with thugs who were happy to kill anyone who mocked their Leader, or who refused to accept the new religion.  This prophet found excuses for raiding caravans -- even from his own tribe.  This same prophet once announced that some junior goddesses were worthy of being worshipped along with the One True God; but later was forced to recant that revelation with the excuse that Satan had tricked him (=those famous "Satanic Verses").  How many prophets from other religions do you know of who inadvertently channel Satan????  Hmmmm? 

Although Muslims claim they are descended from Abraham and thus "we all worship the same God", I STRONGLY suspect that the deity who approves of murder & terrorism to "make Islam victorious" (and who promises his jihadis eternal paradise in the Big Bordello in the Sky) is a totally different God from the one Jews and Christians worship. 

317

You are giving too much credit to Thomas Jefferson. In fact, his administration negotiated a settlement to end the First Barbary War by the terms of which we returned the city of Derne, taken from the landward side by William Eaton, eight (yes, eight) Marines, and a few hundred mercenaries, returned all prisoners held by the U.S., and paid $60,000 ransom for the return of prisoners held by Tripoli. Jefferson justified the payment by pointing out that it was "ransom", not "tribute". The agreement did specify that no future annual "tribute" would be paid to Tripoli. 

To his dying day Eaton felt betrayed by Jefferson, who had left Eaton sitting in Derne waiting for supplies and building up local support for an attack on Tripoli while negotiating the settlement behind Eaton's back.

The U.S. continued to pay "tribute" to the other Barbary states and periodically "ransom" prisoners from all, including Tripoli, until 1815.

Jefferson's attack on Tripoli seems to have been precipitated by a demand for an additional $225,000 in tribute after his inauguration ... probably at one of those iftars that  that we now know were so popular with the early presidents.

318 So The Teleprompter got him in a bit of trouble and now he's trying to backpedal like crazy.

Douchenozzle.

319 Anyway, you really need to relax. Just turn off the CAPS lock, put down the drugs, crank the audiobook version of "Dreams From my Father" and let the chakras fly...

Posted by: lincolntf at August 14, 2010 04:52 PM (BCzaE)

We chased off an anonymous black man and got a visit from Kanye West.

320 the conflict with muslims will be a problem as long as they have excess money to spread their terrorist religion. As long as the muslims had to spend their time inhaling camel farts going across the desert they were not a problem.

321
Listen, dude, this is how it is. If you fuck with me, I'll fucking kill you. Do you feel me?

Thomas Jefferson to the ambassador from Tunisia, at sunset quoted in Stuff Jefferson Said.

322 Ah yes, the first  iftar at the White House, I remember reading about it in history class along with Hitler's Passover dinner at the Riechstag.

323 If Obama knows anything about the US or its history we have yet to see any evidence of it.  If our press "corpse" wasn't so supine you would think they could take a few minutes off from sending their flying monkeys out to examine Palin's womb to look into just how someone could reach the age Obama has and know nothing of any substance despite having attended what are supposedly our finest institutions.

How did this guy even graduate from high school?

324 I don't believe he's Muslim or as someone suggest, atheist.  Obama is a fringe Christian, which is akin to liberal versions of Christianity- liberal "Christianity" is malleable to fit the needs of those who want to claim to be Christian but do not want to practice the tenants of the religion.  Whether they are Christians or not is for God alone to decide in the end. 

But reality dictates that Obama's religions, like so much about him, is constantly in flux.  Wright's church served its purpose, which was contacts in the Chicago black political community.  Some political scout saw Obama as the liberals best chance to win a presidential election and implement real change.  Its not hard to see and most of us who read this sight knew all of this before the election.  It was the 52% that were fooled. 

325 Obama lies like other people breathe, especially to cover the crimes of the Demagogic Party, leftism, Marxim, Islam, and his neighbors.

326 My opinion No mosque in new york where 3000 people lost there life. Stop using FREEDOM OF RELIGION, AGAINST AMERICAN CITIZEN, TO PUSH YOUR AGENDA. So, a building that represents all RELIGIONS UNDER ONE BUILDING.

327

The thing is, it's hard for Americans to swallow the concept of the US being in Holy War. This is because it is quite literally against our Constitution to instigate such a thing. The problem is, that a religion faction has declared a war against us. To defend ourselves, we must fight a religious faction. In other words, we must engage in a holy war.

The reason it makes so little sense is that it doesn't seem to make sense for a religious sect to attack a country which is officially neutral, religiously. Insane or not, it's not something within our control.

So we're in this holy war - something we're extremely uncomfortable with  - despite having a real "thing" about not having holy wars.

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