1 The oil companies can drill. But only with manually operated equipment.

2 This is a joke. The open areas will not even offset the hits we take in jobs over the taxes implemented. Cap and Trade is a joke, there is no reason to revive it as it's based on quicksand to begin with. America's energy policy  should encompass 1 thing, more cheap energy.

3 what are his lefty/greenie blind faith supporters gonna feel?

this is a broken promise, after all.
another one.

4 Geez, nice attempt to appease the people who hate you.  If you think this is going to save Congress, Obama, you're a bigger idiot that I thought...and that's pretty darn big.

5 Very simple:  Chairman Soetero is trying to influence the commodities market to bring down the price per barrell in expectation of higher supplies.  He knows that if gas, already at over $3.00 gal, goes to $4.00 or higher, his goose is cooked.  That's all ther eis to it.  See, even a communist can resort to basic market economics of supply and demand when his political life depends on it!

6 It's allowing EXPLORATION, not DRILLING.

7 All of this is still subject to review by the secretary of the interior and will get held up for years by lawsuits and enviornmental impact studies. No drill will disturb the pristine ocean floor while Obama is still president, I'd bet my next paycheck on that.

8 Wait.  Didn't Bush repeatedly try to allow drilling, but The Party of No wouldn't let him? 

9 This will get bogged down in research and will never materialize. Why does Wimpy come to mind, yet again: "I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today"?

10 I will allow this drilling, but only if the oil companies use drills made of hemp.

11 This along with the right tire pressure will solve our oil dependency crisis.

12

Drilling will only be allowed 125 miles off shore. The water depth that distance from shore is crazy deep. It's not impossible to drill, there are rigs in the the Gulf of Mex that drill 35,000 feet deep, but it will be interesting to see the states affected throw up environmental road blocks at stop this cold.

This will be just like the claim that Obama was interested in building new nuclear power plants after closing down Yucca Mountain. "You mean there's no place to put the waste? Never mind then."

13

I know it's there somewhere.  Oh, here it is:

"after the government conducts detailed studies,"

14 It could be that he's found a way to personally profit from it.

15
You're all wrong. The only reason to announce this (and the prior announcement about building nuclear power plants) was to swipe the rug out from under the Republicans.

Obama just took away one HUGE reason to vote for the Republicans in November. Well done, GOP. You just managed to squander our victory in 2010.

16 6 It's allowing EXPLORATION, not DRILLING.

Posted by: Clark at March 31, 2010 10:43 AM (aCXct)

Yep.  And environmentalists will tie it in court.

Plus a little Hey, Alaska: F-U! thrown in.

Be on the lookout for the deals.  There must have been deals made.

17 Some say that we should just go and pollute all the water in the world to get at a few extra drops of oil, but I reject that false choice.

I propose a middle ground that helps us become more energy efficient while protecting our precious environment.

So yes, there can be drilling. But only if no rigs touch the ocean's water and dirty it at all up.

18 The Obama Administration will give Oil and Gas firms enough time to get their contracts in place and invest enough to make it economically infeasible to back out, and then change the law, increase taxes, and de facto nationalize them. 

19 Obama is just opening-up more oil companies to be sued and/or taxed by the EPA.

20 The OBama administration will approve significant oil and gas exploration off America's coasts, including a possible sale two years from now of leases off the Virginia shore, administration officials said Wednesday.

Yeah, AFTER a study by the EPA for environmental impact and AFTER all the wing-nut court cases work their way through the courts in series of course.

Some lucky company may actually get to drill after 50 years.

Folks, this is a false flag operation to get support for crap and tax from RINOs like Graham.

21
Didn't the lefties tell us that even if we started now, it would take 10 years to develop these fields and see any price drop?

I wonder what has changed...

22 With this group there's always reason for caution when they do something right.

You laughed when you wrote that, right?  Please tell me you don't seriously believe this crock of crap.

23 Obama just took away one HUGE reason to vote for the Republicans in November. Well done, GOP. You just managed to squander our victory in 2010.

Bull.  But I guess you're one of the conservative Sphinx Caucus, always willing to cut off your nose to spite your face.

What if the GOP (monolith that you imagine it to be) were to go full-bore for drilling even more than leaders like Palin are.  Then Obama makes this nothing announcement.

Where would "the GOP" be then, genius?

Sorry, all.  I realize I'm "punching down".  It's politics 101.

24
And now we know why Obama, Reid, and Pelosi are not all worried about losing in November -- they're running against political nincompoops.

All they have to do now is tack to the right, talk like centrists, and they keep their super-majority.

25

Like I mentioned above Tweet, it's all bullshit once you look at what is really going on...propose nuclear power plants after closing the only waste facility in the country. Propose oil drilling, but really only allowing the sale of leases and exploration. It's all smoke and mirrors. Any competent campaign could make the case that Obama is full of crap.

26 This is Lucy with the football people.  Republicans, please don't try to kick it.

"Exploration" is not drilling.  Any potential drilling will be held up in courts forever.

27 Whoopty-fucking-doo. None of this makes up for the health care travesty.

28
Be on the lookout for the deals.  There must have been deals made.

Soros tripled his holdings in Xcel Energy (also of the brazilian fields fame notoriety).  Links in the ONT.

29

Under the plan, the coastline from New Jersey northward would remain closed to all oil and gas activity. So would the Pacific Coast, from Mexico to the Canadian border. The environmentally sensitive Bristol Bay in southwestern Alaska would be protected and no drilling would be allowed under the plan, officials said.

The first lease sale off the coast of Virginia could occur as early as next year in a triangular tract 50 miles off the coast that had already been approved for development but was held up by a court challenge and additional Interior Department review...

 

30

I wonder what has changed...

Poll numbers that sunk like the Titanic perhaps?

31 Oh yea, I forgot...Fuck you Lindsey Grahamnesty!

32 This will lower the price of lubricant, so Lindsey Graham should be happy.

33 Obama the cock tease: Look, but don't touch. Oh, and he'll definitely look for a way to use crap 'n trade to nationalize the oil companies.

34 Bammer ordered existing contracts cancelled, while the new contracts will require a whole new round of negotiations, hearings, environmentalist stunts, etc.

It's a joke.

35 30

I wonder what has changed...

Poll numbers that sunk like the Titanic perhaps?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 31, 2010 10:52 AM (pLTLS)

BINGO!  Parallel attempts to simultaneously inflate his polls and deflate the new oil bubble.  Both will FAIL!

36 ^{Obama To Approve Offshore Drilling?}Not exactly.

37 18 The Obama Administration will give Oil and Gas firms enough time to get their contracts in place and invest enough to make it economically infeasible to back out, and then change the law, increase taxes, and de facto nationalize them.

Exactly.  To be fair, you have to have exploration before drilling, and it takes years to get these things going particularly where there isn't a lot of infrastructure already in place (East Coast vs. the Gulf).  So normally I'd say this is a good thing.  But I'm sure this is just a gambit to neutralize a GOP talking point and give the appearance of doing something since gas prices have been steadily climbing and we're heading into summer, and Obama hoping for things changing before then (like say passing Cap & Trade and killing companies funds for exploration).

And he knows he can ruffle enviromental whackadoo's feathers.  Who else are they going to vote for?

38

Poll numbers that sunk like the Titanic perhaps?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 31, 2010 10:52 AM (pLTLS)

Rasmussen has him only at -8 today, which is a 5 point bump overnight.  I don't get that.....

39
What if the GOP (monolith that you imagine it to be) were to go full-bore for drilling even more than leaders like Palin are.  Then Obama makes this nothing announcement.

What if? What if? I'm talking about facts and what happened. You're talking about what ifs.

Fact: Republicans balked on drilling because they got cold feet.
Fact: Republicans stopped mentioning domestic drilling event though it could create REAL jobs.
Fact: Obama is on record for building nukes -- while the Republicans were afraid to touch that third-rail issue.
Fact: Obama is now on record for domestic oil exploration. The Republicans blew their opportunity to own the issue.

Conclusion: the Democrats are co-opting just enough of the Republican positions to blur the lines between (R) and (D), thus giving people no reason to vote for change in 2010.

40
You're all wrong. The only reason to announce this (and the prior announcement about building nuclear power plants) was to swipe the rug out from under the Republicans.

Go home, Frum.

41 So it goes like this? O proposes offshore exploration to be an amendment to cap & trade to get one dumbass gop senator to flip.  Surprise, we're fucked.

Oh, yeah forgot, drilling never actually occurs.

42 @ 38 Rasmussen has him only at -8 today, which is a 5 point bump overnight.  I don't get that.....

Those kind of statistical anomalies are normal for mass-sampling. It has to do with minor internal variances within the sample on a day-to-day basis. The important factor is how things look in the aggregate after a larger time frame than merely day-to-day. Point being, overall he's on the low side.

43 38

Poll numbers that sunk like the Titanic perhaps?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 31, 2010 10:52 AM (pLTLS)

Rasmussen has him only at -8 today, which is a 5 point bump overnight.  I don't get that.....

Posted by: Tami at March 31, 2010 10:55 AM (VuLos)

Could be "Battered Spouse Syndrome"- people are starting to forget the ugliness of how HellCare was passed and slip into denial.

That's what the administration is hoping for and if it is actually happening it is very Bad News.

44
Conclusion: the Democrats are co-opting just enough of the Republican positions to blur the lines between (R) and (D), thus giving people no reason to vote for change in 2010.

And you're gonna make sure their plan works!

45  But I'm sure this is just a gambit to neutralize a GOP talking point and give the appearance of doing something since gas prices have been steadily climbing and we're heading into summer, and Obama hoping for things changing before then (like say passing Cap & Trade and killing companies funds for exploration).

And he knows he can ruffle enviromental whackadoo's feathers.  Who else are they going to vote for?

Posted by: brak at March 31, 2010 10:55 AM

Yep.  That section off the VA coastline had already been approved but was held up in court.

46 Obligatory "It's a trap!"

47 On FOX Stuart Varney was saying there would be years of studies, then years of legal battles ... end of the decade at best.

This is about changing the focus, sleight of hand while he pushes some more crap down our throat ... like crap n tax.

48

He didn't say drill-drill.

49
nationalize the oil companies.

First thing I thought.  His fat daughters would love a couple of oil companies for their 18th, wouldn't they?

50 Oh we've already made the deal - for every barrel drilled, the companies must buy Al Gore™ Carbon Credits.

I love it when a plan comes together...

51 Even fox is calling it offshore "drilling".

dips.

52 Those windows over there?

They need dressing, too.

53 What happened? Sara Palin and the Tea Party and Obama's falling numbers happened.

As others have said, this is about EXPLORATION not DRILLING. Just like the nuclear power plant thing will never happen on his watch.

He is a LIAR.

The GOP needs to take this and run with it, no matter how much money is at stake.

54 It is total fucking bullshit.

On March 10, 2010 they put a three year moratorium on offshore drilling.

Do a Google. Washington Examiner.

Also Bush put this out in 2008, with it supposed to come online in 2010.

Douche nozzle is just trying to take credit.

This is Cap and Tax prelude.

Trust me.

55

OT: Speaking at a televised roundtable alongside Nation of Islam Leader Louis Farrakhan, a personal friend and recent adviser to President Obama decried "right-wing white brothers" who are attacking Obama and who "could even attempt to kill him."

 

56 Offshore drilling will still be banned on the west coast and the Bristol Bay in Alaska.

57 Obama to make a speech in 3,2, 1 .......

58

Obama just took away one HUGE reason to vote for the Republicans in November. Well done, GOP. You just managed to squander our victory in 2010.

Posted by: Tweet, a Joo, and a Mexican walk into a bar... at March 31, 2010 10:47 AM (X1Xo9)

Well, as you said on another thread, the Republicans weren't using it anyway.

Toonces is doing this because he sees $3.50/gal+ gas prices this summer and he knows that's gonna make the natives restless. So he thinks he'll be able to use this as a cudgel to beat up "big oil". The problem with that is Americans have been told so many times that opening up more areas or exploration won't help oil prices for at least 10 years. I'm sure the MSM will dutifully amplify Obama's anti-"big oil" exhortations but I doubt most Americans will buy it. They care much more about the price at the pump.

The big driver today is government spending and health care and neither is going away soon. The details of "health care reform" are going to continue to dribble out all of the way up to election day. Coupled with high unemployment and high pump prices, anger against the administration will continue to grow.

Toonces is starting to figure out he's painted himself into a corner. Try as he might, he's not gonna find an easy way out.

59 The bill is called KGL... Kerry, Graham, Lieberman. That's all you need to know. There is as much real energy development in this bill as in a hamster wheel. Only question is which corporations get the freebie carbon or pollution credits, courtesy crony capitalism.

60 Watch what actually happens not what Captain Wonderful says.  As far as his Rasmussen bounce, two things. Congress is not in session, and he has been off the TV.

61

Be on the lookout for the deals.  There must have been deals made.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 31, 2010 10:47 AM (T0NGe)

Webb?

62

It will be interesting to see what Lindsey Graham (Rish-Really SC?) says after today's announcement.

The president's ass REALLY DOES taste like boisenberries!

63 42 @ 38 Rasmussen has him only at -8 today, which is a 5 point bump overnight.  I don't get that.....

Those kind of statistical anomalies are normal for mass-sampling. It has to do with minor internal variances within the sample on a day-to-day basis. The important factor is how things look in the aggregate after a larger time frame than merely day-to-day. Point being, overall he's on the low side.

Posted by: Vile Roman at March 31, 2010 10:59 AM (iBzKc)

All Dems.  It's all Dems.

Remember what Strong Approval means.  Ras says in that data that he's still hemorrhaging support from independents.  The overall approval/disapproval has barely moved.

I also think the "opposing Obama is racist" meme hits libs a lot harder.

64
The RNC is too busy cutting expense checks for strip clubs to respond.

65 No! We must not drill! It involves PUNCHING DOWN through Mother Gaia's crusty hippie skin.

66
This is all for a campaign slogan.

67 Republicans should double down. start introducing bill after bill proposing to ease regulation and start drilling ASAP. hoist him by his own petard. shit, I forgot, they're Republicans.

68 I will believe it when the oil is flowing. I don't trust this fuck. My guess is that they will place so many restrictions on it that it will be impossible to drill.

69 55 OT: Speaking at a televised roundtable alongside Nation of Islam Leader Louis Farrakhan, a personal friend and recent adviser to President Obama decried "right-wing white brothers" who are attacking Obama and who "could even attempt to kill him."

Posted by: conscious and suprisingly coherent this morning at March 31, 2010 11:04 AM (YVZlY)

Laughably, when Farrakhan showed up on the list of WH visitors (to be fair, his name was officially on a tour list), the WH said it was "another" Louis Farrakhan.

70

WTF...Russia and China are already drilling in the Gulf. They have much lower safety standards, will pollute more and never be subject to our EPA, Sierra cleb etc..\

This should have bee a no-brainer 2 decades ago.

71 Yeah, like drilling will ever happen.

72

Laughably, when Farrakhan showed up on the list of WH visitors (to be fair, his name was officially on a tour list), the WH said it was "another" Louis Farrakhan.Posted by: AmishDude

I think we have established our credibility on that issue.

73

Laughably, when Farrakhan showed up on the list of WH visitors (to be fair, his name was officially on a tour list), the WH said it was "another" Louis Farrakhan.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 31, 2010 11:11 AM (T0NGe)

Oh for Pete's sake.  That's straight out of a Monty Python sketch!

Mr. Hister?  Right this way sir...

74
Domestic oil extraction is the Triple Whammy

1) eases our dependence on foreign oil
2) lowers oil prices
3) create j-o-b-s right here in America

And the Republicans just squandered it.

75

Why am I suspicious of timing and motive? Sort of like the water finely being turned on (partly) for California whose farms have been dying of thirst for the sake of little fish. And why do I suspect that environmental sacred cows are no more than means to an end? And why is my head hurting after pounding it with a hammer?

76

This is for exploration leases only, no drilling.

 

Smoke and mirrors.

 

 

77 BTW ...this don't mean shit if we don't have cars. Real fucking cars that aren't roller skating deathtraps.

78

Republicans should double down. start introducing bill after bill proposing to ease regulation and start drilling ASAP. hoist him by his own petard. shit, I forgot, they're Republicans.

Posted by: mark c at March 31, 2010 11:11 AM (SBIko)

Excellent idea.

79 This is all about Crap and tax.  From Breitbart.   Don't believe the bullshit!

Obama also urged Congress to complete work on a climate change and energy bill, which has remained elusive. The president met with lawmakers earlier this month at the White House about a bill cutting emissions of pollution-causing greenhouse gases by 17 percent by 2020. The legislation would also expand domestic oil and gas drilling offshore and provide federal assistance for constructing nuclear power plants and carbon sequestration and storage projects at coal-fired utilities.

80 Forgive me if this has already been said, but given this administration's past actions, it could be a way to nationalize the oil industry. Oil companies will explore and drill and for that privilege the gang from Chicago will extract their protection money in the form of (controlling?) shares in oil company stocks. I would be willing to bet the players who pay get the leases; those who won't will be shut out.

If this is truly a move for greater energy independence within the free market system, absent government participation, I applaud this move. However, if the past is prologue, we can see where this will end up.

81 “We will not be able to accept the dramatic giveaway that offshore oil drilling represents,” he said.

There is no hope for this country until we can make everyone understand that allowing for actual energy production is not a giveaway.

Oil doesn't jump into the tankers just because the govt makes it so.  Though  those that have never produced anything in their lives don't get that because all they do is leach off the rest of us by getting the govt to say it is so.

82 Drilling will happen.  It's a part of exploration.  Development & production is what won't happen, until we take back both Houses and the WH.

83

What others are saying.  This is exploration, not actual drilling.  And the exploration will most likely be tied up in litigation hell thanks to our friends of the court, Sierra Club, ELF, etc.  And assuming any oil company is foolish enough to waste resources on exploration, any bets on whether actual drilling will ever be approved?  Assuming it was, are they up for another round of litigation hell over saving the northeastern pinkish-brown extra-medium gulf shrimp? 

Color me unimpressed.  I'm sure RINOs will consider it to be enough political cover to sign on with Cap'n Tax, though.

84

Domestic oil extraction is the Triple Whammy

1) eases our dependence on foreign oil
2) lowers oil prices
3) create j-o-b-s right here in America

And the Republicans just squandered it.

Posted by: Tweet, a Joo, and a Mexican walk into a bar... at March 31, 2010 11:14 AM (X1Xo9)

FOAD

85

Knowing how the Republicans will blow every opportunity, I hate them.  I just hate Democrats more.  What a motivation to vote.

86

The Obama administration will approve significant oil and gas exploration off America's coasts, including a possible sale two years from now of leases off the Virginia shore, administration officials said Wednesday.

Ha!  I'll believe it when I see it.  Which will be never, as in the words of Admiral Ackbar, it's a trap.

This doesn't change the fact that this stupid moratorium, agitated by the red-green alliance, shouldn't have been in effect in the first place.  This exploration and drilling should have been done years ago. 

87 OT: from Newsmax - O'Reilly Pays Legal Bill for Fallen Marine's Father  http://bit.ly/dA3M0V 

88 Hell, we've been drilling for barrys mortgage/property records for years w/o success.

89 This looks like a Lucy with the football moment to me. I will gladly let you drill in two years for a cap and trade today.

90

OT

This is a good article.

91 82 Drilling will happen.  It's a part of exploration.  Development & production is what won't happen, until we take back both Houses and the WH.

bingo

92 OT: from Newsmax - O'Reilly justifies one day of his life's existence.

93 78

Republicans should double down. start introducing bill after bill proposing to ease regulation and start drilling ASAP. hoist him by his own petard. shit, I forgot, they're Republicans.

Posted by: mark c at March 31, 2010 11:11 AM (SBIko)

Excellent idea.

Posted by: Ed Anger at March 31, 2010 11:15 AM (7+pP9)

Yes, but they will also have to do a lot to promote it because these bills won't get any coverage in the dinosaur media.

94

According the talk show in ND, rumor is that 0bama will sign an executive order with CO₂ decared a pollutant, and that's the massive string attached.

Don't be fooled!

(sorry if someone else posted)

95

Obama with the ball, throws up an Alinsky headfake, drops back, pivots, drives to the bucket around two defenders, throws up a Marxist teardrop, 

--AND SCORES!

Sycacuse  2

Capitalists 0

96 File this under "I'll believe it when I see it".  The Dems are scrambling to find a winnable platform -- keep up the pressure; they are and will make fatal mistakes.

97

It will be interesting to see what Lindsey Graham (Rish-Really SC?) says after today's announcement.

Probably "Thank you Obama, can I lick more crumbs off of your butt".

Too bad we can't get rid of Graham until at least 2014 IIRC.   And by then, there may be only chaos.

98 This looks like a Lucy with the football moment to me. I will gladly let you drill in two years for a cap and trade today. Sounds like more of a Wimpy moment

99
Republicans should double down. start introducing bill after bill proposing to ease regulation and start drilling ASAP. hoist him by his own petard. shit, I forgot, they're Republicans.

We need to contact every one of our reps and get them working on this.  The MSM can't ignore that many bills exposing Wee Wee as the Great Liar.

100 Fucker's on TV AGAIN.  I can't get away from this clown.  This Hugo Chavez territory.  "Dear Leader" indeed.  By the way hey Lindsey, fuck you.

101 While we're at it, we could get kissy-kissy with Iran, and get them to share their nuclear technology with us, in return for which we could share some of our state-of-the-art, advanced technology with them, like by showing them how to build windmills in their country and perhaps a few Walmarts and McDonalds, too, thereby taking away their incentives for invading this country..

102 Quick vote (Trick Vote from CNN)
var qvq_count = 0; Do you agree with President Obama's plan to expand oil and gas drilling in U.S. coastal areas? Yes qvq_count++; No qvq_count++; Not sure qvq_count++;

103 #15 gives us his (breathtakingly moronic) "insight" into the matter:

"Obama just took away one HUGE reason to vote for the Republicans in November. Well done, GOP. You just managed to squander our victory in 2010."

I'm sure the electorate is going to remember Obama ran on the platform 'Drill, Baby! Drill!'  Ohhhhhh! That was somebody else, wasn't it? And now Obama's trying to steal her lines?

BTW: Here's a random quote from DailyKos:

"I seriously NEVER considered the notion that Obama would propose off shore drilling. I didn't think the energy bill was going to be hopey changey - sure is a lot changier than I could have possibly imagined.

Shows you how naive I can be.

Damn.

Proving, poster #15, even the clowns at Kos have better powers of analysis than you.

104 #15 Poorly disguised troll is poorly disguised. Whatever front group is paying you is too much- try harder.

105

95 According the talk show in ND, rumor is that 0bama will sign an executive order with CO₂ decared a pollutant, and that's the massive string attached.

Thanks logprof, that's more in line with the Obama way.   It's a bit redundant, as the EPA already ruled CO₂'s is a pollutant (based of the fraudulent ClimateGate "data"), but jackasses like Gramnasty will be all over that anyway.  Gives them "green cred".

/Gaia's a bitch, I know.

106 How does jugears square this with the EVIL oil companies?  Will King Reid and Queen Pelosi support this?  The enviornmental mafia will be pissed off for sure.  Ovomit is trying to say..."look, I'm trying to make nice with conservatives".  Aint gunna work.  The real pain is coming soon, when you see your shrinking paycheck.  Nope...not gunna work.

107 The exploration was done years ago.(Hello, 1970's!) Everyone pretty much knows where the oil is. Especially closer in to shore. The gov't previously sold the leases then the Dims/Environuts tied everything up. Result: No drilling. So, this is another BO scam. Soak the oil companies for billions then make it legally and/or financially impossible to drill. The Oil Co's should tell BO to FO.

108
Some of you need to face the reality of politics. The reality of politicking is that it is has little to do with reality; it's all about the winning the PR war.

If you haven't noticed, the Democrats have been winning the PR war since just after 2004 election. The GOP is getting its ass kicked...daily. And it's so frustrating because it seems like the GOP is not even trying to fight back.

Ask yourselves this question every day from now until November: What did the Republicans do today to win in 2010?

But instead of facing facts we're going into the midterms with an impotent political party, be on the lookout for 'concern trolls' and 'eeyores,' if that floats your boats.

109

Okay, one more time... That area off Virginia had already been approved but had been held up in court.  And this still totally leaves out the West Coast and most of new stuff in Alaska.

http://tinyurl.com/ykcz3a7

110

Complete OT but it's something to make me smile on a wicked Wednesday. So the Census is griping about Ohio. The 3C's in Ohio are among the lowest in the country in returning their forms.  Statewide the average is just over 50%, but CIN, CLE, and COL are in the 30s.

My how they must be fretting to think how their shithole cities won't be getting proper minority funding!

(Yes, I realize I just called my city a shithole. It kind of is these days.)

 

111 Clinton could triangulate because he managed to co-op enough issues.

He was able to "triangulate" because the media carried his water for him giving him credit for what the Republican congress did.

Bambi will try to do the same thing. The difference is we have the inter-tubes now and everybody knows the media is a liar.  Nobody but an idiot believes this "drilling" BS. 

112 Ha ha haa! Boy has Dear Leader got you capitalist pigs fooled... when he says "There will be absolutely no Socialism in the administration's policies." - he means "There will be quite a bit of Socialism, now, how about I trade ya for this nice hat."

113
It kind of is these days

THESE days?

114 I'll bet the oil companies will line up to spend money exploring, when they're not allowed to actually produce.  But that will just be an excuse for Comrade Zero to announce that its time to nationalize the greedy oil producers.

115

Thanks logprof, that's more in line with the Obama way.   It's a bit redundant, as the EPA already ruled CO₂'s is a pollutant (based of the fraudulent ClimateGate "data"), but jackasses like Gramnasty will be all over that anyway.  Gives them "green cred".

/Gaia's a bitch, I know.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Olympus) at March 31, 2010 11:25 AM (9hSKh)

--The guest on the show was from Climate Depot (I forgot his name; he used to work for Inhofe), and he said this was mentioned on FNC.

He said that it should be noted that even most congressional Democrats would not like an executive order, because it wopuld deny them the revenue cash cow they would get with Trap and Cage.

116 Sorry, all.  I realize I'm "punching down".  It's politics 101.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 31, 2010 10:51 AM (T0NGe)

I am TIRED of all these MOTHAFUCKIN DOWNPUNCHERS on this MOTHAFUCKIN PLANE!

117 112 Which C lacey, cinci, cleveland or columbus?

118

Spare me. #15. All the republicans have to say is that they defunded Yucca. There is no embracing nuclear power if there is no where to store waste. It also puts our military in a bad spot. This is crap too.

Bunch of lying liars.

119

Posted by: Tweets, somguy and someone else all walk into a Blog at March 31, 2010 11:29 AM (V9SYy)

I knew you were someguy because of your political savvy and gracious ways.

120 #109 Your not even worth arguing with. Why don't you take your silly assed shit on down the hall?

121

What a lovely garnish this is for the shitburger of cap and trade.

(wanna' bite?..)

122

Here is Boehner's statement.

http://tinyurl.com/y9l59ga

123 119 CIN

124 This is just a distraction as the Commiecrat-in-Chief dips his balls into some really fucking retarded shit that we're not going to like very much.

125 Va's Gov McDonnell said he wanted to allow drilling off shore about the first week  he was in office. Drilling not "exploration".

126

#117  He said that it should be noted that even most congressional Democrats would not like an executive order, because it wopuld deny them the revenue cash cow they would get with Trap and Cage.

Good point, but when has the Obama Adminstration cared about the political fortunes of congressional Dems?  He just made a lot of them walk the plank politically over Obamacare.

127 Tweet, Republicans and conservatives have been supporting domestic drilling and nuclear power for years. It's odd that someone who, I guess, "claims" to be a republican or conservative doesn't know that. Very odd. And only a retarded member of the general public doesn't know that as well. Let me guess, Ron Paul is our only hope. No wait, we're going to get hammered in November so what's the point, stay home and pout. Douchebag.

128

125 Awesome!

If I were a dude I'd totally have a constant boner for Boehner!

129 yeah cinci has some nice areas (I was out there last year sept-nov for work) but I would go near the-rhine after dark. mostly stayed up in the evendale area.

130 Wouldn't go. That would be silly if I did go there, right?

131

I'm sorry, what PR war are the dems currently "winning"? Since their approval ratings are in the toilet, they have lost the last 3 elections, and they had to pass their signature legislation through illegal means, I would suggest that they peaked a while ago and as they attempt to govern instead of just critisize they will continue to slide.

132 Citizens of the United Socialist States of America.  Continue sucking my cock for offshore drilling, and I promise not to cum in your mouth.

133 What's Obama's plan for storing the nuclear waste from our subs and air craft carriers? Gitmo?

134 "It's a trap!"  - (Adm. Akbar)

What is stop him from deciding he changed his mind and doesn't want to allow it after getting whatever it is he wants (most likely Amnesty or Cap-and-make-us-live-in-hovels passed).

The Republicans had better not fall for whatever he wants for this; he has revealed his stripes and not ONE WORD he says can be trusted or taken at face value.

Being obstructionist to the communist agenda is the only hope we have until November.

135 Where does the military store their nuclear waste anyways?

136 "Possible sale" "Two years from now"... why are we even pretending to take this seriously.

137

109  Well, I have  news for you sports fan -- the Dems are starting to lose the PR war, and lose it in a big way (when you hear of lifelong Dems who say they will be voting a straight R ticket for the first time ever and that they won't change back, well, that's one thing, but when you hear of more than two dozen vowing the same, well that's something -- the Dems are really frakking up right now and their golden boy is spearheading the charge); they're also taking every special interest group they've pimped and pandered to down with them (if anybody deserves to kick the Dems after this, it will be those groups, talk about getting rape raped).  The only thing that is saving them right now is that the Repubs aren't exactly popular at the moment either.

 

138 135 Citizens of the United Socialist States of America.  Continue sucking my cock for offshore drilling, and I promise not to cum in your mouth.

Posted by: Barack Obummer, Pres for Life at March 31, 2010 11:37 AM (M5t+h)

Co-Thread Winner!

139 Tweets and a transvestite walk into a bondage themed bar. Winning the PR war? you mean like how we got our asses kicked with the wildly popular health care reform and closing Gitmo issues?

140

I smell a rat.

There is no way that The Vapid One™ will ever embrace oil drilling. If he did, we'd be seeing some sort of legislation to streamline the permitting process and some legal protections against the lawsuits that the environmental kooks will inevitably file.

Don't be fooled. The results will show at your local neighborhood gas pumps.

Also, remember that one of his new appointees has said his confirmation would be the end of motorized transport in America, or some such phrase.

141 139 Where does the military store their nuclear waste anyways?

Posted by: Gaff at March 31, 2010 11:39 AM (jDWYv)

I wish it were up Barry's ass.

142 139 Here and there and some more over there and a little here. It's classified.

143 146 & 147

Both answers work for me

144 This is definitely a ROFLMAO moment. Everybody knows Obama lies about everything.

The USA has the largest fossil fuel reserves of any country. Then why do the Democrats continuously lie about energy independence. And what is the deal with building monuments to horse and fishes with our coal, oil and gas reserves, they don't even know what to do with it.

145 If the administration was serious they'd allow us to get oil shale from Canada.

But they're not so they won't.

146 HERE'S THE CATCH:
Obama is approving drilling in VA and the parts of the Gulf of Mexico, where we have small reserves and NO INFRASTRUCTURE.  You don't decide to drill today and start pumping oil tomorrow.  The infrastructure takes MANY YEARS to put into place.

At the same time, he is putting ALL of the West Coast AND Alaska (where we already HAVE infrastructure) OFF LIMITS.  Also, off limits are the largest oil fields in the Gulf.

THE RESULT:
By doing this, Obama basically insures that there will be NO OFF-SHORE DRILLING during his presidency while seeming to throw a bone to the right.

Utter bullshit, as usual.

147

Great. In ten years, if we're lucky there may be a drilling rig off Virginia - an area that was proven to be largely unproductive back in the 1970s.

Meanwhile: no ANWR and Salazar had taken most of the Rockies off the table an we will be economically destroyed by Cap n' Trade..

148 I think they mean their liberal cause would be "giving away" some ground.

149 According the talk show in ND, rumor is that 0bama will sign an executive order with CO₂ decared a pollutant, and that's the massive string attached.

He doesn't need to sign any EO - the EPA has already done his work for him.

150 It's a...  oh fuckit, it's so obvious even I don't need to say it

151

rumor is that 0bama will sign an executive order with CO₂ decared a pollutant

Will I be taxed for exhaling?

152 You will be imprisoned if you exhale without a permit ...

Permits will be determined by race, gender, and voting pattern.

153 notice the missing name ...  ANWAR ...  proven reserves, drilling on land which could start in months not years ...  gee, I wonder why it was left off the list ?

154 158 notice the missing name ...  ANWAR ...  proven reserves, drilling on land which could start in months not years ...  gee, I wonder why it was left off the list ?

Posted by: Jeff at March 31, 2010 11:56 AM (B7Wu9)

Oh look over there... a squirrel!

155

Check the fine print:

Chukchi Sea: More study, no more leases, no action on existing leases.

Beaufort Sea: More study, no leases.

Bristol Bay: No leases.

Cook Inlet: 'Allows a planned lease to go ahead' - knowing that actions already filed by NOAA will designate the area as crucial beluga habitat. No drilling, ever.

 

NOTHING is going to happen offshore in Alaska.

 

 

156 But instead of facing facts we're going into the midterms with an impotent political party, be on the lookout for 'concern trolls' and 'eeyores,' if that floats your boats.

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So you think 2010 is gonna hinge on offshore exploration, huh?

That's gonna be the big motivating issue, is it? Funny, I was thinking maybe the government taking over health care, an unsustainable debt, and 10% unemployment might be more on people's minds, but what do I know?

157 According the talk show in ND, rumor is that 0bama will sign an executive order with CO₂ decared a pollutant, and that's the massive string attached.

He doesn't need to sign any EO - the EPA has already done his work for him.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 31, 2010 11:51 AM (Gk/wA)

--I know about the EPA, but I think they were talking about some EO that immediately clamps down.  The guy knew what he was talking about.

158 Die Someguy L Jackson sock puppet! I'm finished with you!

159 Like Clinton, you have to watch what he does not what he says...He would impress me by introducing legislation to streamline the approval and permitting process for coal, oil, gas, and nuclear power...Until then, he can take his press releases and shove them up his skinny ass!

160 I'll wager that there will be far more drilling in Bawney's ass than  in offshore Virginia in the next 8-10 years

161 Obama is approving drilling in VA and the parts of the Gulf of Mexico, where we have small reserves and NO INFRASTRUCTURE.  You don't decide to drill today and start pumping oil tomorrow.  The infrastructure takes MANY YEARS to put into place.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at March 31, 2010 11:48 AM

Obama didn't approve anything.  That area in VA had already been approved but had been held up in court.  Okay, that is the last time I'm postung that.

162 The dems won't get serious about energy...Well, never!  We are decades behind in drilling, refineries, of course nuclear is all but dead...When gas is ten bucks a  gallon and heating a 1200sqft home costs costs 1000 bucks a month will be too late...All according to the Kenyan's plan however...Apparently, Americans need to be humbled...

163 Token drilling for cap and tax is a bad trade. Also, did you notice he is cancelling oil and gas leases in alaska? HMMM now who do we know who is from Alaska?

164 Barry wants to shift the debate from outrage over the healthcare takeover by sprinkling a little fairy dust on the energy tsunami that is threatening our way of life...We in the United States sit with the sword of Damocles over our necks waiting on the next energy crisis.  All the while, we send a half a trillion hard earned dollars/year overseas to the oil exporters...Any sane government would treat our lack of domestic energy development as a National Security crisis...

165 If Lindsey Graham brings his Cap and Tax hat back to SC he may just get caned...Come to Charleston Lindsey, we are waiting...

166 Just a way to distract everyone from the real agenda.
Grab the torches and pitchforks! Time to toss them all out.

167

From Mike Pence.

“As usual the devil is in the details. Only in Washington, D.C., can you ban more areas to oil and gas exploration than you open up, delay the date of your new leases and claim you’re going to increase production.

“The President’s announcement today is a smokescreen. It will almost certainly delay any new offshore exploration until at least 2012 and include only a fraction of the offshore resources that the previous Administration included in its plan.

“Unfortunately, this is yet another feeble attempt to gain votes for the President’s national energy tax bill that is languishing in the Senate. At the end of the day this Administration’s energy plan is simple: increase the cost of energy on every family in America and trade American jobs oversees at a time when millions of Americans are looking for work.”

168

Obama just took away one HUGE reason to vote for the Republicans in November. Well done, GOP. You just managed to squander our victory in 2010.

I emailed a friend something similar this morning.

Ask yourselves this question every day from now until November: What did the Republicans do today to win in 2010?

What have they done from 2008 to now to win? Jeebus, the only reason they almost stopped Obamacare was by making it about...abortion. They only had about two decades to form a counter-argument and couldn't do it.

I really have no desire to win in 2010 just because the economy is bad and the GOP gets lucky. That just gives us the 2000s again, when the party stood for nothing, and did nothing but ride the post-9/11 wave.

169 This gives the Democrat News Media something to work their magic with.

170 Whew! What a chore!  I just finished reading the Health Care bill.  All 2600 pages.  I wish Obama would get around to signing it.  It's been on the internet for like 10 days and he said he wouldn't sign anything until it had been out there for 5 days.  He gave us an extra 5 days.  Wow, he is the best president ever.

171 Um yeah...so I assume that Soros has invested in energy exploration businesses, and has given his pet some orders.

172

"a possible sale two years from now "

That says it all. It gives the appearance of 'drill now' but in fact does not. It also gives the Demoncrats time to cancel it with legislation AFTER the coming election. I am so tired of these jerks.

173 Kabuki.
Obama says he supports it, the DOI agrees, EPA kills it, both Obama and the DOI shrug and say "Hey, we tried."

174 Military nuclear waste is stored in an old salt mine out East.  Those in the know say it's vastly superior to Yucca Mtn, and has room for at least 150+ years worth of domestic waste as well (I suspect that by then we'll have better ways of dealing with it).
However, it's currently cleared for military waste only and it would require a pointless recertification process for private waste.  Remember Yucca Mtn?  20 years and billions of dollars for certification and finally they gave up.  The anti-nukers have, so far, always won since that wretched movie The China Syndrome came out in sync with the non-event at Three Mile Island.  The final nail was Chernobyl. 
I'm a huge proponent of nuclear power in this country--I've been involved with it since the late 70s--but I'll tell you right now, there won't be a single nuclear power plant built in this country until the blackouts and brownouts start happening and the peasants rise up in arms.  Any attempt until then will be killed by politics and unending lawfare.
Sad, but true.

175

It's all a lie. They (dems) will never let you drill offshore anywhere but the gulf. Trust me on this. Right now I'm 70 miles west of a proven reserve of 16 billion barrels (billion with a b) of crude sitting on one of the longest pipelines in the world and we can't drill. The infrastructure is here we need the jobs America needs rthe oil but we hear the same tired rhetoric that we heard in the 70s about how it would kill of the caribou. Now the heard is three times the size it was back then. It's all lies. That's why I don't believe there will ever be a hole punched off of the atlantic coast.

 

IMO It's another Oman lie

176 It may be a head-fake to stall drilling until after the '12 election, when it could be killed.

Or it may be an effort to get revenue for the Welfare State. Or it may be something else entirely.

Do the names Pemex, Gazprom, Petrobas, Aramco, Petroleos de Venezuela/Citgo and China National Offshore Oil Corp. (Cnooc) ring any bells?

177

In summary, this is an attempt - as usual - to sound like he's on board with drilling (to placate independents), when he really isn't.  IIRC, he did something like that during the campaign, also. Apparently, it actually restricts any potential drilling, rather than expand it.  Nobody in here is surprised.

Heck, didn't BHO "undo" Bush's EO, that gave a presidential green light to drilling in the last few months of his last term?  How does he explain this faux-180?

What's unclear to me is the timing.  Is he simply trying to change the subject?  Is he looking for cover, given rising gasoline prices? Or is this about cap-and-trade?  I dunno.

178 This isn't reality sinking in, not at all. This is a desperation move to regain public approval after the Obamacare back-door passing blowback, and the overall bitter public mood as the economy falls down a well despite news spin and bullying congresscritters. It's not going to fix the economy in time for 2012, it's not going to make consevatives change their opinion of him, and it's going to drive the Greens nuts. But hey, maybe the "exploration" will turn into "development" when President Sarah Palin takes office.

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