January 28, 2010
— DrewM Well, Obama may well have found a way to unite Democrats and Republicans after all.
The Obama administration stunned New York's delegation Thursday, dropping the bombshell news that it does not support funding the 9/11 health bill.The state's two senators and 14 House members met with Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius just hours before President Obama implored in his speech to the nation for Congress to come together and deliver a government that delivers on its promises to the American people.
So the legislators were floored to learn the Democratic administration does not want to deliver for the tens of thousands of people who sacrificed after 9/11, and the untold numbers now getting sick.
"I was stunned — and very disappointed," said Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, who like most of the other legislators had expected more of a discussion on how to more forward.
..."She made it clear that the administration does not support any kind of funding mechanism that goes into the bill," said Bronx Rep. Eliot Engel. "I think it's fiscal restraintÂ… but you know what? They find money for everything else, they need to find money for this," Engel said.
And how much do these greedy bastards want anyway? 11 Billion dollars! Not all at once mind you but spread out over the next 30 years. $366 million, give or take, a year.
For the people who tried to rescue survivors of the attack and then cleaned out the site Obama says...no. Money to defend terrorists in court? Sure, he's all for that.
This reminds me of the idea the jackass floated about charging the private insurance companies of veterans for service related injuries. Eventually that was dropped, just as this will be funded, but it's pretty clear who Obama stands with and who he doesn't.
Added (as my anger builds) You know what? I bet we've already spent more than one year's worth of this money on Haiti (probably more than the whole 11 billion) so here's my idea...no more money for Haiti until we take care of our people.
Now, I think we can and should do both but if it's a choice, I say help Americans. What does Barack Obama say?
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uh hmm, priorities 11 million a no go over thirty years , for popel that gave heavily of themselves
58 billion to go for such charitable american causes as Acorn
Posted by: willow at January 28, 2010 04:06 PM (7FgWm)
Posted by: runningrn at January 28, 2010 04:07 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: Barky McFucktard at January 28, 2010 04:08 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Twinks at January 28, 2010 04:08 PM (LeFbD)
what's not to love about this administraion,
loving and wise (to those they need to get elected) typical american heros maybe not so much
Posted by: willow at January 28, 2010 04:08 PM (7FgWm)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 28, 2010 04:09 PM (VHwCB)
Posted by: runningrn at January 28, 2010 04:09 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: Countrysquire at January 28, 2010 04:10 PM (MNxpu)
Posted by: runningrn at January 28, 2010 04:10 PM (CfmlF)
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of stupid liberals.
Posted by: arhooley at January 28, 2010 04:10 PM (BhSY6)
Posted by: Jane D'oh! at January 28, 2010 04:11 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: arhooley at January 28, 2010 04:12 PM (BhSY6)
Posted by: willow heard Obama say at January 28, 2010 04:12 PM (7FgWm)
Posted by: arhooley at January 28, 2010 04:13 PM (BhSY6)
Posted by: jjshaka at January 28, 2010 04:13 PM (MZcwI)
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at January 28, 2010 04:13 PM (OZJ/1)
"Now, I think we can and should do both but if it's a choice, I say help Americans. What does Barack Obama say?"
Obama will always say help the terrorists first..they are the only ones he can relate to..after all, what was the real objective of the 9/11 terrorists? The killing of innocents and the chosen places of destruction were only symbolic. They want to destroy the American economy and along with it the American people. They couldn't have a better friend than Obama.
Posted by: Whippet at January 28, 2010 04:14 PM (9IjK0)
Posted by: Countrysquire at January 28, 2010 04:14 PM (MNxpu)
Hell fucking yes! If we want to rebuild some fucked up buildings and infrastructure, why don't we start with Detroit, or East St. Louis? (future home of Aceapalooza)
Obama's been using this Haiti disaster to try and beef up his leadership cred, but I honestly think that those blue-collar independents who put him over the top in places like IN and OH are looking at it and thinking the exact same thing you are.
Posted by: nightwitch at January 28, 2010 04:14 PM (HFFM8)
Posted by: runningrn at January 28, 2010 08:10 PM (CfmlF)"
Gave him Hillary?
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at January 28, 2010 04:14 PM (OZJ/1)
Posted by: Jane D'oh! at January 28, 2010 04:14 PM (UOM48)
Gee, almost as much as it will cost to conduct the KSM trial.
In NYC.
Across from Ground Zero.
Maybe the 9/11 Rescue Workers can go to the trial, or something.
Posted by: SlaveDog at January 28, 2010 04:15 PM (H6Jyg)
Obama administration was investing $650 million in economic stimulus money in wellness and prevention programs aimed at obesity and stopping smoking.
Because, duh, the only reason people stuff their faces and smoke cigarettes is that the gubmint isn't throwing enough money into it.
And please do not get me started on the irony of having that fat assed Sasquatch spearheading this thing. \o/
Posted by: Peaches at January 28, 2010 04:15 PM (9Wv2j)
This is a poison pill, meant to make it the Republicans who kill a "spending freeze" while complaining about spending by 0bama. It's a trap.
Posted by: Sekhmet at January 28, 2010 04:16 PM (SLnH7)
Posted by: SlaveDog at January 28, 2010 04:16 PM (H6Jyg)
I bet we've already spent more than one years worth of this money on Haiti (probably more than the whole 11 billion)
How about the cash these idiots want to give to Third World kleptocratic shitholes to combat GLOBAL FUCKING WARMING? How about we tighten up some of that dough? Certain government agencies that are components of national security are in a budget crunch right now, and these motherfuckers want to throw money at thieving despots who say they'll stop pollution? And screw 9/11 heroes? Proud Mary Keep on Burnin', this shit makes me want to punch the elderly.
Posted by: UGAdawg at January 28, 2010 04:16 PM (/VjHB)
That reminds me, I have some ironing to do.
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at January 28, 2010 04:17 PM (OZJ/1)
Posted by: willow heard Obama say at January 28, 2010 04:17 PM (7FgWm)
Hey, watch it there, cupcake.
Posted by: SlaveDog at January 28, 2010 04:18 PM (H6Jyg)
Posted by: Jane D'oh! at January 28, 2010 04:18 PM (UOM48)
...and when they all quit smoking and eating junk food, where is the government going to go for all that tax money they won't be getting? Iowa's budget is based more on tax revenues from cigarettes than properties.
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at January 28, 2010 04:18 PM (OZJ/1)
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at January 28, 2010 04:19 PM (OZJ/1)
Posted by: tangonine at January 28, 2010 04:20 PM (C8Pcc)
Peaches
i wouldn't normally bash another woman. but in this case
heh
and maybe the $650 million in economic stimulus money in wellness and prevention programs aimed at obesity
is a message to her from him.
Posted by: willow Meows at January 28, 2010 04:20 PM (7FgWm)
Posted by: Slow Joe at January 28, 2010 04:20 PM (UOM48)
This is also the same day that Clowngress approves $8B for "fast trains"
I cannot believe that they can find 8B for Amtrak, but not a goddamn penny for 9/11 heroes
Posted by: In Exile at January 28, 2010 04:20 PM (Dw6L6)
Posted by: Anna Burger and Andy Stern at January 28, 2010 04:21 PM (+zo63)
Posted by: willow Meows at January 28, 2010 04:21 PM (7FgWm)
there are no U.S. engineering companies or manufacturers with experience in high-speed rail . . . much of the technology will have to be purchased abroad. . . . high-speed rail experts say that if the administration spreads the $8 billion among more than a handful of projects, none of the projects will get enough money to get up and running.
Posted by: Peaches at January 28, 2010 04:21 PM (9Wv2j)
Posted by: theadmiral at January 28, 2010 04:22 PM (Q5/wS)
Anybody hear Lamar Alexander last night? frikken tool just LOVES Obama - thinks he's a great guy, "We all love him and respect him.." ..or some such bullshit.
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at January 28, 2010 04:22 PM (OZJ/1)
If they wanted health care they should have been in a union that donated to Obama's presidential campaign. Duh, everyone knows that.
Posted by: kefka at January 28, 2010 04:22 PM (n1uMU)
Posted by: runningrn at January 28, 2010 08:09 PM
--------
Drudge is now saying Obama ordered the trials moved from NYC.
Posted by: Dusty at January 28, 2010 04:23 PM (fFk/c)
Heh. So far.
And the high speed rail is a total boondoggle. I'll still be able to drive to Orlando faster than taking the "high speed" train.
It's the Loser Line.
Posted by: SlaveDog at January 28, 2010 04:23 PM (H6Jyg)
Holder plan goes under the bus;
White House orders Justice Department to look for other places to hold 9/11 terror trial
Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2010 04:24 PM (sYxEE)
Posted by: Jane D'oh! at January 28, 2010 04:24 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: huerfano at January 28, 2010 04:24 PM (sr90K)
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at January 28, 2010 04:25 PM (OZJ/1)
Posted by: GarandFan at January 28, 2010 04:26 PM (ZQBnQ)
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at January 28, 2010 08:13 PM (OZJ/1)
I really, really want you to be right.
Posted by: conscious and thinks Obama is the Tiny Tim of Politics at January 28, 2010 04:26 PM (Vu6sl)
So, uh, Gitmo is still out of the question? My fuckin head is exploding.
Posted by: Peaches at January 28, 2010 04:27 PM (9Wv2j)
Posted by: Amy Winehouse at January 28, 2010 04:27 PM (Ylv1H)
Posted by: beedubya at January 28, 2010 04:27 PM (AnTyA)
Posted by: fozzy at January 28, 2010 04:27 PM (ccEuN)
Brutally Raped and Beaten Nuns Assistance Bill
Socks for Orphaned Minority Children Act
Snuggies for Homeless Seniors Program
Last Cup O' Kibble for Condemned Puppies & Kittens Resolution
This is bad stuff people.
Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at January 28, 2010 04:28 PM (+lsX1)
Posted by: Techie at January 28, 2010 04:29 PM (zbH+i)
Posted by: Twinks at January 28, 2010 04:29 PM (LeFbD)
His sincere motivation for this is to protect the 9/11 Workers from the greedy doctors and their never-ending tonsil removal scams.
Posted by: The Greene Bard at January 28, 2010 04:29 PM (ZvV/I)
No doubt in my mind. You weenies can win on KSM, but I WILL screw you all in the end. Way to much correlation in these simultaneous actions. It is a hearty FUCK YOU, NY. This is intentional.
Posted by: Derak at January 28, 2010 04:29 PM (sPWq2)
Posted by: NunyaBizness at January 28, 2010 04:29 PM (FlhGG)
Posted by: Jane D'oh! at January 28, 2010 04:30 PM (UOM48)
Holder plan goes under the bus;
White House orders Justice Department to look for other places to hold 9/11 terror trial
Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2010 08:24 PM (sYxEE)
Hey Obama, let me think. Hey, how about that place called Guantanimo? Huh, think that might be a possibility?
Posted by: conscious and thinks Obama is the Tiny Tim of Politics at January 28, 2010 04:30 PM (Vu6sl)
Posted by: Dusty at January 28, 2010 08:23 PM (fFk/c
to chicago?
Posted by: willow Meows at January 28, 2010 04:31 PM (7FgWm)
Posted by: mystry at January 28, 2010 04:32 PM (kmgIE)
He is tone deaf to anything patriotic and important to this country. Obama, like all other progressives, consider 911 a "plane crash".
911 is my defining point as a conservative. Up until that morning I was dyed blue liberal. By that afternoon, I was no longer drinking the kool aid.
He either does not want to accept that these jihadists want us murdered or he agrees with them that this country needs to be destroyed.
Which one is it Barry?
Posted by: redwhiteandblue at January 28, 2010 04:33 PM (upM6Y)
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at January 28, 2010 04:33 PM (OZJ/1)
"Attorney General Eric Holdernow has to think of other places where the trial could take place, officials said."
Well, they didn't get the Olympics, so how about a little consolation prize for Chicago, eh?
Chicago, Chicago thad toddling town
On State Street, that great street
I just wanna say
They do thing's
They don't do on Broadway
Posted by: SlaveDog at January 28, 2010 04:35 PM (H6Jyg)
Posted by: Richard Mcenroe at January 28, 2010 04:36 PM (j3G8v)
Posted by: mystry at January 28, 2010 04:38 PM (kmgIE)
Playful Chicken - check
Moron - check
train - check
http://tinyurl.com/y8d5gxm
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at January 28, 2010 04:38 PM (OZJ/1)
Posted by: Peaches at January 28, 2010 04:38 PM (9Wv2j)
Posted by: 18-1 at January 28, 2010 04:38 PM (bgcml)
Posted by: Richard Mcenroe at January 28, 2010 04:39 PM (j3G8v)
I remember this coming up with the Bush administration, when Whitman was the EPA administrator. But I hadn't read much about it recently.
Did they ever come up with a verifiable list of ailments and who qualifies, etc.?
Posted by: CJ at January 28, 2010 04:39 PM (JQtNT)
I'm not concern trolling or defending Obama, but has anyone seen what is actually in the "9/11 health bill"?
There might be a good reason to say no. If memory serves me correctly, I think this bill has been around (in some form or another) for a couple of years and hasn't gone anywhere. In it's earlier forms it funded a lot of things that barely had anything to do with 9/11 and (did at one time) have a lot of political pay-backs in it.
Does anyone have a link to this bill?
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at January 28, 2010 04:39 PM (F09Uo)
Heh. So far.
And the high speed rail is a total boondoggle. Makes at least two of us here in FL. I agree - the rail project is just another boondoggle. Nobody wants to learn the lessons of Amtrak and Tri-Rail.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 28, 2010 04:40 PM (0wqOZ)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at January 28, 2010 04:41 PM (DIYmd)
Posted by: Peaches at January 28, 2010 08:41 PM (9Wv2j)
If it's any consolation, if Obama is opposing this bill, I'm sure it has nothing to do with fiscal responsibility and everything about paying off the WRONG interests, or interests not as friendly to him as he would like.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at January 28, 2010 04:44 PM (F09Uo)
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h847/show
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at January 28, 2010 08:44 PM (OZJ/1)
Thanks!
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at January 28, 2010 04:45 PM (F09Uo)
Posted by: The Q, Reporting for CNN at January 28, 2010 04:45 PM (pfStM)
Those first responders expect the goddamned world to be handed to them on a silver platter just because they foolishly got messed up in that 9/11 business when no one asked them to.
-- Charles Johnson
Posted by: Christoph at January 28, 2010 04:46 PM (0fq7b)
(1) medical monitoring and treatment benefits to eligible emergency responders and recovery and cleanup workers who responded to the World Trade Center terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001; and
(2) initial health evaluation, monitoring, and treatment benefits to residents and other building occupants and area workers who were directly impacted and adversely affected by such attacks. Requires the WTC program administrator to:
(1) implement a quality assurance program;
(2) establish the WTC Health Program Scientific/Technical Advisory Committee;
(3) establish the WTC Responders Steering Committee and the WTC Community Program Steering Committee;
(4) provide for education and outreach on services under the WTC program;
(5) provide for the uniform collection of data related to WTC-related health conditions;
(6) conduct research on physical and mental health conditions that may be related to the September 11 terrorist attacks; and
(7) extend and expand arrangements with the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene to provide for the World Trade Center Health Registry. Authorizes the administrator to make grants to the Department to address mental health needs relating to the terrorist attacks.Amends the Air Transportation Safety and System Stabilization Act to:
(1) make individuals eligible for compensation under the September 11 Victim Compensation Fund of 2001 for harm as a result of debris removal; and
(2) extend the deadline for making a claim for compensation.
Posted by: willow Meows at January 28, 2010 04:49 PM (7FgWm)
And just to play devil's advocate, let's not get caught up in a post hoc ergo propter hoc frenzy over 9/11 rescue/clean-up workers. People get sick and people die; just because it happened after 9/11 doesn't necessarily mean it's related to 9/11 in any way.
Like in Erin Brocovich where everything from nosebleeds to cancer are blamed on something leached in the water.
For those that show syptoms of the illness one would expect from exposure to whatever was detected at ground zero let's make sure we follow-up with them and get them help. Otherwise we'll just end up paying for every illness anyone ever gets for the rest of their lives regardless of its epidemiological origin.
And then it will spread to New Orleans.
Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at January 28, 2010 04:56 PM (0o/nL)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 28, 2010 05:02 PM (swuwV)
to chicago? - willow Meows @71
It's the new Olympics... a recreation of the Collesium of Rome.
Posted by: Al at January 28, 2010 05:02 PM (0lyUI)
Posted by: torabora at January 28, 2010 05:04 PM (R+LUw)
Fuck him, sideways, in the squeakhole, with a fresh pineapple.
Posted by: Unclefacts, Proprietor, International House of Bacon at January 28, 2010 05:08 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 28, 2010 05:09 PM (OW3Eh)
No more money for Haiti until we help our own? I like that! And how about no more free health care for illegal aliens?
And doesn't this sort of thing really make you want to government power over health care?
/Sarc.
/I think Chicago would be a wonderful place to hold the KSM trials. Or maybe even Washington D.C.
Posted by: Rhinestone Suderman at January 28, 2010 05:14 PM (q5Hmz)
For those that show syptoms of the illness one would expect from exposure to whatever was detected at ground zero let's make sure we follow-up with them and get them help. Otherwise we'll just end up paying for every illness anyone ever gets for the rest of their lives regardless of its epidemiological origin.
And then it will spread to New Orleans.
That was kind of my thought too.
I'm all for taking care of any and all 9/11 responders, and if in doubt, I'd take care of them anyways. I just get a queasy feeling in my gut when people talk about open-end obligations that go on forever and could potentially include everyone.
See Civil War Widows' Pensions: http://tinyurl.com/yev6y93
The last Civil War "widow" didn't die until 2004!
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at January 28, 2010 05:18 PM (F09Uo)
The Messiah could order the rounding up and extermination of every single living thing in New York, all the way down to the lowliest single-celled life-form, and he'll still carry the state in 2012. The rescue and clean-up folks? A lot of them will just fellate him harder to prove that they are indeed worthy of his disinterested bukakke shot. I'm sure that there will be some who resist, but probably not a minority.
The hardcore lefties still know that they are in a position to deal the country a death blow through the Obizzle. They're not gonna let the opportunity pass them by.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at January 28, 2010 05:19 PM (cZtT3)
Posted by: Rhinestone Suderman at January 28, 2010 05:20 PM (q5Hmz)
Posted by: Mephitis at January 28, 2010 05:29 PM (5yzim)
Posted by: PaleRider at January 28, 2010 05:29 PM (dkExz)
O/T -- you know what I find satisfying? When I take a peek over at Kos it whines that I have AdBlock turned on. How's my a** taste Markos?
Posted by: rockhead at January 28, 2010 05:44 PM (RykTt)
This morning my Opthamologist asked if he could cut off 1 of my feet, 'cuz he needed an extra 50K
I told him if he was still strapped for cash I'd let him take out my tonsils too.......
Posted by: martha at January 28, 2010 05:45 PM (kFsTd)
Posted by: theadmiral at January 28, 2010 05:54 PM (Q5/wS)
Yeah, same thing. This is a trap. A stupid, crude trap. (Which only a Republican party "leader" could fall for.)
The only way you win is never, ever, ever play by his rules--in the universe of possibilities, your choices cannot be limited by one person no matter how smart they think they are.
Posted by: jimmuy at January 28, 2010 06:18 PM (aWcCe)
Posted by: KilltheHippies at January 28, 2010 06:33 PM (94ai5)
The two events have to be related. But which is payback for which?
The sad part of this story is, if a Special Presidential election were held tomorrow, dumb as a rock New York would vote overwhelmingly for Chairman Maobama, who has just pissed all over them.
Posted by: les grossman at January 28, 2010 06:45 PM (Vc/xe)
Fucking cockchoking piece of shit lefty rectal swab...
Who elected this fucking fuckhole!?
The man -and I use the term more loosely than the electicity of Tila Tequila's (or whatever that filthy cumdumpster's name is) snatch- is a fucking CATASTROPHE.
No "Epic Fail", no "Face Palm", no "Insert Interweb Meme Here", the pile of waste in the oval office is a fucking bonafide CATASTROPHE.
My only comfort in all of this is that perhaps, by electing such a gunch, the American people will be incapable of making such an egregious electoral mistake EVER A-GAIN!!!
Fucking worthless fuckfaced fuckrod...
Please pardon my reckless and uncalled for use of the word gunch in the above comment but shit like this upsets me.
Posted by: SuperCool at January 28, 2010 06:46 PM (DRsTV)
"fuck all you stupid bitter clingy little bitches: I won!"
/since you asked. %-)
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 28, 2010 06:52 PM (d1FhN)
Posted by: les grossman at January 28, 2010 06:52 PM (Vc/xe)
Posted by: polynikes at January 28, 2010 07:22 PM (OJwUG)
Andy Stern is sitting at a union office saying, " We got
ours......screw'em". Master Obama gets to choose.
Elections have consequences.
Posted by: Barry McCockinner at January 28, 2010 07:37 PM (V5kav)
Rush should get involved here as he did for Obama's brother in Africa and start a nationwide fundraiser for these people.
How totalling fucking embarrassing would that be to the party soooo concerned for the health and well being of this country?!
Posted by: rookwood at January 28, 2010 07:48 PM (cOXVZ)
Again HRC would never have stood for this shxt.
Posted by: ginaswo/MiM at January 29, 2010 04:21 AM (iX2MM)
I guess I have too much experience with the NYC fire and police unions to agree to a blank check here. This has always reeked of a boondoggle, with "heroes" materializing out of Staten Island, coughing and pointing to their wallets.
I'm all for some assistance, but no way this kind of money is owed.
Posted by: spongeworthy at January 29, 2010 04:47 AM (rplL3)
Posted by: Mike at January 29, 2010 05:15 AM (k0Df8)
I think that is Soooo wrong... cuz isn't "motherfucker" all one word?
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