1 “To maintain a strong presidency we need to pass this bill,” the President said, according to Grijalva.

It's about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

Screw 300,000,000 little people.

2

 Grivalja of Arizona yesterday said he wouldn't flip his vote from no (not liberal enough) to yes.  Now he says he just might and probably will.

Quite a principled bunch, eh?

3

Okay who was just watching that penis on O'Reilly?

O'Reilly was saying that he didn't trust the CBO numbers and this guy said, "I don't know that I'll wake up tomororrow or that the Saints won the Super Bowl, but I have to go with how the umpire called it.

?????

Truly, the best of hands.

4 Didn't the media freak when some Republican said he wanted to defeat Obama by defeating Obamacare?

Isn't this the same thing?

5 I'm not paying for it.

6 Okay who was just watching that penis on O'Reilly?

I was just channel surfing!!

7 If it passes ---

2010 Contract with America
     Item 1. REPEAL obamacare

Politicians will run on this issues, politicians will win, and repeal will happen.

8 It's the power of the Obama rhetoric.

9 b-b-b-b-but there's nothing in the bill about universal healthcare you teabagging racist scum.

Scratch a progressive, find a fascist.  EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

10 Dammit, Ace.  I could die happy if I never, ever, ever, had to see or hear ABBA again.  (I have issues.  Libtard s-i-l and her spoiled daughter luuuvvvv ABBA and especially lurved Mama Mia.  They proudly claim they stood and sang and danced during the movie.  Eye bleach, please.)

Sorry.  *downing glass of wine* *breathing into paper bag*

Carry on.

11 This isn't about me!

12

"I don't know that I'll wake up tomororrow or that the Saints won the Super Bowl, but I have to go with how the umpire called it."

Does. Not. Compute.

Was he trying to channel Spock? "If I let go of a hammer on a planet that has a positive gravity, I need not see it fall to know that it has in fact fallen."

13

I could die happy if I never, ever, ever, had to see or hear ABBA again.

Them fighting words, bitch

ps....pass the wine

14

Okay who was just watching that penis on O'Reilly?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 04, 2010 08:13 PM (rDZuA)

"Look at the two penises on that elephant!"

15

ps....pass the wine

Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 04, 2010 08:18 PM (rDZuA)

Give it a few minutes - it hasn't even reached her kidneys yet!

16 *Psst.  Lacey.  Try not to share.  I'm running short.*

17 I wish I was born 50 years ago. It is very depressing for me, 27 years old, seeing the country go down the drain right before my eyes. Just wait til borrowing costs for USA rise as we spend trillions more. You ain't seen nothing yet.

18 Wanna know what's funny?  I'll tell you morons what's funny! 

wait....wha?.....

19 Over at American Thinker, there's a whole post on Teh One's Malignant Narcissism. Pretty interesting.

We
Are
So
Screwed

20

More Promises: Hey, If You Pass My Bill, We Can Use It As the Foundation for Full-Fledged Socialist Takeover:Telling those leftwingers they can use this as a step on the way to the public option or single payer.

Obama is a teabagger now? We've been saying that for a year!

21 Ummm.... did someone mention Swedish blondes in short shorts? Oh, sorry... I think it's amazing that Obama is now reduced to arguing that we should destroy the American healthcare system, the American public be damned, just to save his Presidency. Is that what his argument for Crap & Trade will be?

22 Yeah, that promise of great things to come is not going to happen.

Even they must see that.  This is the end of the line.  Maybe they think Republicans can't repeal it, but passing this bill this way will bring white-hot hatred from the electorate.

Frankly, I knew this would be Obama's last pitch: Save me.

His presidency is over.  The only question is whether people will be disappointed or whether they will loathe him.

23 If I was born 50 years earlier I would be dead by now.  I blame Bush.

24 Shit, I hate New Fuck-Up-Your-Formatting Thingy.

25

If you haven't seen this viral essay yet, check it out.

http://tinyurl.com/ybt996s

It's Dan Riehl's "When in the course of human events..." call to action.

26

Is that what his argument for Crap & Trade will be?

I think it's 'Too many Useless Eaters.'

27 Granny Rictus and Earflaps McBaritone have months to twist arms and apply the Jedi mind trick of Pezzydential appeal. Don't count on nomentum. This ain't over.

28 Does anyone have a tally of yes votes by dems in the house? From reading today's articles it looks like they have about 204 and need 216.

29 If they pass healthcare, it's simply a matter of time before America becomes a socialist country.  That's a fact.  It's happened in every single other country that's done it, and that's why they are willing to die on this hill.  They are that close to tipping America over the edge, and if they have to continue to push and poke and jab through little bills to get it done like they have for the last 100 years, it'll take longer. Healthcare will give them a finishing blow in one fell swoop.
Seriously, folks, socialized healthcare is the end.  Once you bribe people with that, it's game over.  Just look at Canada for one example.  Any time the peasants get uppity, or the government wants to raise taxes, they just go "Oooga booga health care!" and the rabble fold like wet cardboard.

30 Scratch a progressive, find a fascist.  EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

Posted by: brian at March 04, 2010 08:16 PM (TKoiC)

Um dude, I don't know what you said, but like the herb in the Progressive Alliance meetings is like top notch.

31 More Promises: Hey, If You Pass My Bill, We Can Use It As the Foundation for Full-Fledged Socialist Takeover

I thought that the meme of the day was that if you claim Obama is advancing socialism you are engaged in fear mongering?

32

So now do we have to buy these T-shirts?

http://tinyurl.com/d8epeg

 

33 Nemo: please put some balls in the sack. Thank you.

34 Grijalva wouldn't be flipping his vote.  He voted Yes the first time around.  He had indicated earlier that he was leaning towards voting no this time, but now is changing back.  But he originally voted for the bill, so this would make no change.  The only so-called progressives who voted No last time were Kucinich and Massa, and Kucinich once again said he was a No. 

35
I think it's 'Too many Useless Eaters.'

Posted by: nickless at March 04, 2010 08:23 PM (MMC8r)

Come on down Saturday for our 2 for the price of 1 sale!

And remember kids, its your choice - not theirs!

36 News breaking that two military officers were shot just outside the Pentagon metro station... Bets as to the religious affiliation of the shooter? Funny how this stuff didn't seem to happen so routinely, back when Bush was President and the POTUS was apologizing to the Flotsam & Jetsam of the World.

37 I thought that the meme of the day was that if you claim Obama is advancing socialism you are engaged in fear mongering?

No,  we are all just raaaaaaaaaaaaaacists.

38

cleanup at comment #30 - reference to 'ooga booga' and 'obama' in same paragraph. must keep racist talk out.

 

39

When people thought it was a done deal last year Bill Kristol said not so fast and that it would not pass. Last I heard from him, this past sunday I THINK, he still said it would not pass. God I hope he is right!

Krauthammer seems to be hedging a little bit. One day I heard him say NO, then he said YES in the house but no in the senate on reconcilliation.

Problem is, if the house passes the current senate bill, then we are fucked and its trillions down the drain!

40 2010 Contract with America
     Item 1. REPEAL obamacare

That will fail because he'll veto it.  That leads to
Item 2. Impeach that smarmy SOB
Item 3. Repeal it for real
(Item 4. Profit)

41

This pezzydency is such an effing roller coaster to the average Moron's life.  I was down a few days, went up today from Rush's news about this thing being a non-starter and am now back in the basement (with Ace and his lotion and dirt walls).

42

It's Dan Riehl's "When in the course of human events..." call to action.

Posted by: RushBabe at March 04, 2010 08:23 PM (LKkE

Cool.

43 Over at American Thinker, there's a whole post on Teh Won's Malignant Narcissism.  Pretty interesting.

Interesting, my ass.  Scary as hell.  Our enemies are watching, listening, taking notes, and laughing.

Fuck saving Barry's presidency.  I only hope there are enough patriots left in the House and Senate to do right by this Republic.

Damn.  Not enough wine in the world.....

44 Politicians will run on this issues, politicians will win, and repeal will happen.

Posted by: nine coconuts at March 04, 2010 08:15 PM (DHNp4)

Repeal is possible, but the Republicans are not going to get enough votes in Congress. They'll probably get a bare majority in the House, and close to a majority in the Senate.

So the issue won't be a text book repeal. The Republicans will have to get innovative in removing this program, and show a damn spine when the media harpies come for them.

45

lurved Mama Mia

Crap, I was going to see that when I could see it for free because Colin Firth is in it. So no?

I'm wondering what O gets out of this if he loses because of it? Legacy?

and I can't get the italics off

46 What's truly scary is that the Democratic Party has literally gone crazy. The Hard Left is in full charge, which essentially means that every single national election puts the continued existence of America on the line. Just consider their last 3 nominees: Gore, Kerry, and now this thing occupying the hothouse it turned the Oval Office into in the interest of demonstrating environmental concern. At some point, the Democrats will need to come back towards a sane left of center position, or I do believe it will be superseded by a new party.

47 No,  we are all just raaaaaaaaaaaaaacists.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 04, 2010 08:29 PM (yQWNf)

Isn't it funny how calling Obama a socialism is "raaaaaaaaaaaacist" even as he advances socialism, but calling Clarence Thomas an oreo for thinking for himself is good progressive fun?

48 Can we give Abba a rest?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH1mXTKp1JQ

49

I don't know what the vote count was and who voted against it the first time but progressives will vote for it this time hands down. Some people could take a pass the first time around but this time is the last time they can take this much controll of our lives and they know it.

Kucinnich won't change, I don't like the guys policies but they are his. He is principled about them. I can't forgive Kucinnich for letting the secret out about all the UFO's we have in eastern Washington though. It used to be a secret handshake thing but now fuck everyone knows.

50 thanks, Obama is Carter.

51 Repeal won't happen. Requires too many votes. It's early March, and this Congress is in session until early January 2011. Libtards and Barry both have nearly ten months to harangue the House into passing the Senate bill, and then reconciliation becomes moot. Barry signs the Senate bill, and socialized medicine becomes permanent. The Nation Below Canada becomes France without the good food and castles.

52 You know the old mafia comment of "you gotta sleep sometime"?  Don't these braindead kool-aid-drinking commies realize they'll have to walk among the rest of us mere mortals eventually?  That'd scare the shiite out of me.

53 dagny@46

Please, hon, trust me on this.  DO NOT SEE MAMA MIA.  You will shoot yourself in the face when you see Pierce Fuckin' Brosnan.....singing, dancing, (badly) and prancing around (literally) with Meryl Streep.  And Colin Firth?  Hahh....haaaa....haaa....

(Watched it on my "free" HBO in the bedroom tv one day.  I'll never get that couple hours back.)

54 Obama is Belshazzar.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pAvKBwCTTU

55 Obama keeps telling his minions to take one for the good guy (Obama) How many times can the Dems keep doing this before they all go down to defeat.  Damn, the Chicago way must be blinding some people. Either that or they like to be castrated when they try for reelection.

56
This is like the moment when the nice, clean cut guy who offered to help you with a ride in his car reveals he's gonna kill you. It's reality time. He can't turn back and you better fight for you life.

57 I only wish Obama was Carter.  Carter never dreamed the dark, disturbing dreams that Barry dreams.  Barry has plans, folks.

58 I would like to know how many doctors are relocating  to, such as state to state or other.

59

Repealing this is a total pipedream unless we have 60 votes in the senate, a decent majority in house, and a conservative POTUS. The earliest that comes to be is 2013, and that is not a slam dunk by any means.

We might have white house and congress, but 60 votes?

Could we repeal it with reconcilliation? Ive heard some GOP senators say yes, others have said no, and that is not a chance we can afford to take.

IT MUST BE DEFEATED NOW. GOD HELP US. 

60 It's Dan Riehl's "When in the course of human events..." call to action.

Good stuff that.  It's nice to know someone is willing to say that in the open.  Maybe Republicans will do the right thing before it's too late if they understand the alternative.

61

Ok.. so if this passes.. how does it get repealed?

That takes 2/3rd to over ride a veto .. right?

I have a sick feeling this is going to pass.

62

Dagny,

It's pretty cute for a chick flick. I actually watched it and I am definately not a big chick flick kinda gal. Just ignore Meryl's political insanity and it's ok.

63

@7: "If it passes ---

2010 Contract with America
     Item 1. REPEAL obamacare

Politicians will run on this issues, politicians will win, and repeal will happen."

Not a chance in Hell of repeal.  If it passes, it's permanent.  As Mark Steyn has already written, the Democrats are smart to bet on Republicans lacking the grapes to overturn it - it's well established that they don't.

64 I asked KGB but don't know.

65

I looked it up.....

 

In the United States, Congress can verride" href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/override">override a presidential veto by having a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and Senate, thus enacting the bill into law despite the president's veto. However, a veto may not be overridden if it is a pocket veto, a veto in which the president simply ignores a bill between congressional sessions. The veto override is an example of checks and balances, the process in which various branches of the U.S. government can limit each others' power.

66 At some point, the Democrats will need to come back towards a sane left of center position, or I do believe it will be superseded by a new party.

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 04, 2010 08:32 PM (9IHmo)

We conservatives fight each other constantly. And center-right folks sometimes seem more interested in attacking solid conservatives then they are liberals. 

The left though idolize those on the left most extreme, yeah maybe they are too "idealistic" but really, is that a bad thing? This gives a strong push to keep sliding further left, because that is where what they see as the moral path is.

Additionally, their notion of historical progress and utopianism means that they have to follow up every success that does not bring about Paradise with another push to the left.

I'm not sure the modern left therefore can return to moderatism. Certainly look at the progression of nominees they've had from Gore, to Kerry, to Obama. The liberal half of the Clinton couple was viewed as not liberal enough even after 8 years of boogieman Bush.

67 If it helps erase the images of your sil Doh, my husband's squad used to like playing ABBA before before going out on missions -- they got some sick, twisted pleasure from it.  Called it Viking music to kill by.  That might be something to throw out to sil; would probably ruin her ABBA experience?

68 Repeal is a joke. Kill it now, or it's on like Donkey Kong.

69 I would like to know how many doctors are relocating

Been asking that question myself.  If the engineering profession was getting the Obamacare treatment my top priority would be finding a new home.

70 Thank Gaia the Commonwealth of Virginia and (six other states so far, I believe) have told Bammy to go pound salt where ZeroCare is involved.  I heard our AG on the radio today.  He's a huge 10th Amendment guy and is spoiling for a fight.

71

“To maintain a strong presidency we need to pass this bill,” the President said, according to Grijalva.

So this is all for a "strong presidency"?  Maybe we could have a strong presidency without socialized medicine if the occupant of the office would just start acting like a man for a change.

72

We will not have the votes to over ride a veto. So the earliest would be 2013, and we wont have 60 then either probly.

73 Yeah, that Abba thing ... maybe just a little played out?

74 This won't help Obama's cause: http://bit.ly/9nbwCB

75 So, Delahunt is out. Anyone got a sound bite yet from Dr. Amy Bishop???

76 Could we repeal it with reconcilliation? Ive heard some GOP senators say yes, others have said no, and that is not a chance we can afford to take.

It depends what you mean by "repeal".  Assuming HHS is overseeing Obamacare, pass budgets that do not fund HHS.  At all. Which isn't really reconciliation in and of itself, but a clever majority leader could probably finagle it that way.

77 I would rather watch an episode on the Style Channel about Michelle Obama's high-waisted belt collection than watch Mama Mia. And I *heart* ABBA.

78 In fact, he was a "yes" vote before -- he had decided he might vote against the Senate version of the bill. So he was talking about changing a yes to a no, but now is saying he'll probably keep his yes a yes.

I love their conviction.

79 I would get a comment from Amy Bishop, but I don't feel being shot by her...

80

This rollercoaster SUCKS!!!

Let me off!

81

where we had been hoping it was a net loss.

This entire presidency is a net loss.

82 OK, the Docs are gonna walk away. Another "small Bizman" screwed. Tis time to invest in GOLF!

83 unknown jane, thanks.  I'll inform D'oh Boy.  And libtard s-i-l is extremely unhappy to have a Marine in the family.  Bwahaaaa.  Makes her pot head "artist" 30-something son and perpetually out-of-work lib daughter look like slackers or something.  Plus, everything is Booooosh's fault.  And the Jooooos.

84 “To maintain a strong presidency we need to pass this bill,” the President said, according to Grijalva. So this is all for a "strong presidency"? Google Ed Driscoll and the 1933 movie "Gabriel Over The White House." A depression era paean to dictatorship and FDR actually contributed to the film.

85 But, said one attendee, Obama pointed Kucinich toward single-payer language that Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) was able to get into the bill. Kucinich fought for an amendment that would allow states to adopt single-payer systems without getting sued by insurance companies. Obama told Kucinich that Sanders’s measure was similar but doesn’t kick in for several years. “He definitely wrote it down,” said one member of Kucinich, suggesting that he’d look into it.

Wait, Kucinich had to write it down?  He didn't know what was in the bill?  He has to look into it?  How could that be?

Oh wait, 2000+ pages is a lot to read.

86

prancing around (literally) with Meryl Streep.

Ick. She's on my list of lefties with big mouths I will not watch or pay to see. The list is getting really long. I sorta wish for the days when I only had to avoid Jane Fonda and Ed Asner. Pretty soon I'm going to have to develop a file I can search and cross reference. Still, the lowest blow was Springsteen...I don't care if they are libs as long as they at least make an attempt to keep their mouths shut.

87

78 methos, I wish that were true, but the money would already be appropriated. Its part of this bill, so i dont see how they could stop it by not funding it in the future because this bill funds it. RIGHT?

Of course they will have to borrow trillions to actually pay for it.

88  At all. Which isn't really reconciliation in and of itself, but a clever majority leader could probably finagle it that way.

Posted by: Methos at March 04, 2010 08:47 PM (Xsi7M)

Methos, they could pass a budget that eliminated all funding for Obma Care, the subsidies, the taxes the whole thing. Obama would have to veto the budget which would shut down the government but it's possible.

89

The progressive asshats were going to vote for it anyway.   They've always been up Obama's ass.    We just have to find a way to keep the damn vote below 217 in the House, and I'm still not sure nan has the votes.   If she did, they would have already done this thing.  

Plus, they have to have, at least, 217 in the House & 51 in the Senate to all agree on the exact same language in a reconciliation bill.   That is if they can get 217 in the House to fall for the BS that there will actually be a reconciliation bill passed by the Senate & signed into law by the prez.   That isn't going to happen.   I truly believe that is just a freakin' ruse to try & get the House to pass the Senate bill.  

We have to stop this in the House.   If we can't...well, I don't want to think about that.

90 This time the south will free the yuppie slaves of any color from any nagging leftist with authorti. (Cartman style)

91 From PJM

BREAKING: Activist ‘Green’ Lawyers Billing U.S. Millions in Fraudulent Attorney Fees

92 I wonder if my joooo libtard niece-in-law knows that the other libs hate her?

93 Abortion and Obamacare are one and the same thing. Abortion on demand is one of the bedrock items he will not talk about. (except for him to of course deny it.) If it was not there, Planed Parenthood and other agency's would be howling. Did anyone hear a peep yet?

94 84 OK, the Docs are gonna walk away. Another "small Bizman" screwed. Tis time to invest in GOLF!

Or...only chaos.

95 The only thing that gives me hope is that if they had the votes, I think they would have passed it by now. GOD HELP US.

96 I've seen the phrase "once-in-a-generation opportunity" used to describe Democrats' chance to pass massive changes to the American health care market.  The NY Times used it in an editorial today, the president reportedly used ithere, and it's become a talking point among various other entities on the American left.  

It seems to me this formation shows that even the bill's supporters acknowledge that the American people DO NOT WANT this bill.  After all, if this was a notion that garnered public support, there would be other chances.  Why couldn't it just pass in the next Congress?  Or in a decade?  I mean jeez, there was a huge prescription drug entitlement passed when Dems didn't even control the chamber! It's simple - even Democrats know this country doesn't fundamentally believe with them.  They understand the majorities they have garnered are a historical accident - the combination of an unpopular term-limited president from the opposing party, a Republican Party that spent 12 years abandoning many of the principles that got them elected in the first place, and a wild radical elected president with the complicity of an adoring press and an incompetent opponent.

And yet, forward they push.  Why?  Simple - they don't believe in government by the people.  The modern American left is a technocratic movement.  They know better than the rubes, and they were able to fool the people just long enough to get the majorities they need.

But don't take my word for it - take theirs.

97 #79  And I *heart* ABBA.

So that's what's wrong with you.  And here I was thinking that you're a soul-stealer...

98 believe agree with them.

That's what I get for not proofreading

99 Dagny, do your joooo libtard niece a favor and inform her.  However, she probably already knows, but figures it's those nasty Israeli Joooos the libs hate, not our home grown variety. 

100 In essence, they want to strike while the bitter clingers are temporarily indisposed.

101 I really wish we could count on the SCOTUS to defend us from this blatantly unconstitutional act, but no...

102

So that's what's wrong right with you.

Us Scandis must stick together.

103 11 This isn't about me!

Posted by: Barack Obama at March 04, 2010 08:17 PM (CfmlF)

Yes it is...

104 She is the daughter of israeli joos who left israel because their joo parents didn't approve of the match

105 Dammit.  I can only hope and pray Barry gets his ass kicked to the curb in '12.  Otherwise I may be forced to wear belts under my boobs and armpits.  (Actually, my boobs are too large to allow for the under-armpit Wookie look.  Still.)

106 BREAKING: Activist ‘Green’ Lawyers BillingU.S. Millions in Fraudulent Attorney Fees

Posted by: kbdabear

That works too.

107

 

108 dagny, your libtard joooo niece is confused and fucked.  Sorry.

109

@78: "It depends what you mean by "repeal".  Assuming HHS is overseeing Obamacare, pass budgets that do not fund HHS.  At all. Which isn't really reconciliation in and of itself, but a clever majority leader could probably finagle it that way."

That assumes that a GOP Congress would have: (1) the desire to shrink the government; (2) the will to actually do it.  There is basically no historical proof of either, nor any reason to believe that it will appear in the future.  They're pretty much cool with socialism, so long as it is a slow-growth form.

110 Otherwise I may be forced to wear belts...

Now that is hawt

111 I guess I was more answering the question of whether it could be stopped in the budget, which reconciliation is supposed to apply to.  Dan, I don't think the bill in consideration would set up the appropriation forever.  I think appropriations have to be done each year, it's just that Congress usually lacks the will to cut much of anything.

At some point, which gets much closer if Obamacare passes, the federal government will fail because the resources to meet its promises are not available.  Don't forget China's observation that there isn't an unlimited amount of wealth available to keep buying their (and I say their because the foreigners in DC are increasingly not of the USA) debt forever.

112 One day I hear this crap sandwitch is going to pass the next day probably not. I'm suffering from whip lash. Anyone know a good ambulance chasing lawyer?

113 110 No. I'm fucked. I'll have to spend every christmas with her until my sister dies or I do. I have to because my sister hates her so much, I am the voice of reason---which is really really funny.

114 Does this mean i have to stand in line to buy toilet paper?

115

Just need to hold this off til after Congress' springbreak

Lot's of townhall meetings planned.  I've evn heard the rumor another Tea Party in DC might happen.

116 107,

BUNK!!

117 OK, the Docs are gonna walk away. Another "small Bizman" screwed. Tis time to invest in GOLF!

Or...only chaos.

Posted by: Kratos

Uhm Kratos, the donks got the chaos market cornered.

118 I orginally thought that reconciliation was a long slow process in which the republicans could take apart the bill piece by piece to see if it was applicable to the budget. However, I seem to be hearing that the parlimentarian decides and Biden can override him? Do I have that right?

119

85  Oh, frak...now you're making me want to come visit you with the whole heehaw gang in tow (make sure sil and her wonderful kiddies are there).  Do they perchance like to smoke Cubanelles and drink cheap tequila?  would they like to learn?  Most importantly, would it offend them greatly?  Hell, maybe round up Grunt; I'm sure he'd have a blast.

 

 

120 'Night all.  I'm off to my one and only "guilty pleasure", Real Housewives Night.  (Well, that and copious amounts of Pinot Grigio.)  My head hurts, and I'm developing major anger issues about the state of the country.   And Barry and his band of thieves.

Anyhow, I heard Ace may be appearing as a gigolo on the opening series of Real Housewives of NYC tonight.  *rubs hands together in sweaty anticipation*

121 Anyhow, I heard Ace may be appearing as a gigolo on the opening series of Real Housewives of NYC tonight.  *rubs hands together in sweaty anticipation*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 04, 2010 09:05 PM (UOM4

TV OT: Pam's having her baby tonight on The Office.  On now.

122 121 I want to come. I speak grit!

123 In essence, they want to strike while the bitter clingers are temporarily indisposed.

Posted by: dagny at March 04, 2010 08:55 PM (sXJYA)

I'm not indisposed. I'm in Texas. The Tenth Ammendment is your friend.

124 I wish I was born 50 years ago. It is very depressing for me, 27 years old, seeing the country go down the drain right before my eyes. Just wait til borrowing costs for USA rise as we spend trillions more. You ain't seen nothing yet.

Posted by: Dan at March 04, 2010 08:20 PM (1jzSs)

I've been alive almost 51 years. Trust me, it isn't any easier to stomach this crap.

125

I don't think most people are getting the bigger picture. If the house dems pass the senate bill, the asshole can sign it, and that is the law. He is then in no hurry to reconcile this damn socialist bill.

Judd Gregg was on CNBS today (video below), and he explained it perfectly. The reconcialiation option is just a cover.  The House passing it means, that;s it the country is done, we are headed for towards full on insolvency even faster.

http://tinyurl.com/yjjn37l

126 "Thanks to "Obama is Carter" for that correction. As he says, this is not a net gain for Obama, but instead a hold, where we had been hoping it was a net loss." Well, that's a pretty darned big distinction, all the same: at least it wasn't a a loss for us, and an indicator that Obama's Vote for Obamacare or I'll Shoot Myself plea. http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj219/miikellgiz/blazing-saddles-6551.jpg

127 Oh, to add a little spice to this debate, don't forget that more Obama Unemployment numbers come out tomorrow morning.

I expect economists to react to the unexpected news.

128 I will NEVER be indisposed until they pry it from my dead cold fingers, just sayin'. Have I mentioned that I despise progressive communist cockholsters?

129 Assuming HHS is overseeing Obamacare, pass budgets that do not fund HHS.  At all.

This.

And then some.

Take a page out of their playbook.

Poison pills in all legislation.

If you can't immediately toss out the whole thing, a tireless focused effort on undermining individual provisions and the ability to execute them.

130 Cheer up, there's war. That might be interesting.

131

I've been alive almost 51 years. Trust me, it isn't any easier to stomach this crap.

Posted by: Bill R. at March 04, 2010 09:09 PM (EhlQq)

I think the older you are the harder this is to stomach.

132 If this thing passes, and if the Republicans run on repeal and win big in November, then they must do everything in their power to repeal it. Failure to even try will lead to massive anger by those who voted for them and will result in either primary challenges for every (R) in 2010 or the formation of a 3rd party. If they pass a repeal and it's vetoed, then they could simply refuse to appropriate the funds.

Also, for those saying that it can't be repealed, remember that the actual provisions of this will not go into effect for a few years but the taxes will be immediate. So don't think that people won't still be pissed off about this in 2012 as they will have been paying taxes for nothing. You then add Obama's veto as part of your campaign strategy and you run on repeal again.

Still, the best thing would be to kill this now.

133 Will the new wavers and punk rockers govern better than the hippies?

134 The party.  My presidency.  But you blue dogs are shit outta luck.

135 I'm 62, combat Veteran and can still shoot straight and am in great shape, will travel with help if the shit hits the fan no BS!

136

137

"Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) said that Vice President Joe Biden would “go down in history as a real dolt” if he used his power as president of the Senate to overrule the Senate parliamentarian ..."

I feel so much better now.

138

Posted by: WSUConservative at March 04, 2010 08:45 PM (9nHq0)

Okay, they just lost Delahunt.  Roller coaster up.

If you listened to Beck today, he had Jim DeMint on to talk about this.  DeMint didn't think it was going to fly.  However, he advised getting a group of 10 or 12 folks together to go to their local libtard rep's office and to let the newspaper know you're going.  He admitted that that was one of the things that struck fear into his heart.

He also admitted to Glenn that once an entitlement is in place, it can't be undone.  I think an out-of-the box thinker like Palin could lure people out of it with the tradeoff of a healthcare tax break for opting out and putting you back in control of your healthcare.  From there, it will become a status symbol to have easy, accessible healthcare.

How can something as unconstitutional as making citizens buy something be allowed to stand?  What about the seven or so states that have already stated they will not enforce ZeroCare?

139 Yeah, i  always feel better when i'm 90 years old and history says "yes, you were right'.

140 Assuming HHS is overseeing Obamacare, pass budgets that do not fund HHS. At all.

Sure. Defund anything you can. Repeal specific items. Stick them in unrelated bills. Undermine every opportunity. Do to this what Dems did to Vietnam, and threatened to do to Iraq-- defund it. Tie it up in court.Appeal any and all sections you can. Alinsky it. Mau-mau it.

Doctor's strike. Medicare strike.  On and on.

141 “To maintain a strong presidency we need to pass this bill”

The poor dumb shits.  Passing this bill will destroy the Democratic Party.  But then, it's always been ALL ABOUT BARRY, ALL THE TIME.

142 "Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) said that Vice President Joe Biden would “go down in history as a real dolt” if he used his power as president of the Senate to overrule the Senate parliamentarian ..."

Uh, Orrin, that ship sailed a loooooooong time ago.

143 Did Ann Coulter say "fag" on Hannity tonight?  I couldn't tell, but it kinda sounded like it. 

144 All BS aside friends I'm very happy that America is getting it, I hear folks talking everywhere about getting rid of this gang of thieves.

145 The real answer if we get hell care is defund this obamanation and bide our time, but of course we will be defunding lots of stuff since we are going in to debt so fast during this Opression.

146

Dagny -- climb aboard, always room on the welcome wagon!

I'm not indisposed; in fact, I'm becoming less so with each passing moment.

147

"getting rid of this gang of thieves"

That would be insulting thieves. These lunatics are freaking radical socialist America-loathing thugs! (and this is comning from an Independent voter who hears the same from my democrat family)

148 115 110 No. I'm fucked. I'll have to spend every christmas with her until my sister dies or I do. I have to because my sister hates her so much, I am the voice of reason---which is really really funny.

Posted by: dagny at March 04, 2010 09:02 PM (sXJYA)

Why are jooos celebrating Christmas anyway?  Why don't you start taking a cruise every holiday season?

149

In other news this is absolutely the dumbest Office I have ever seen

/besides Surivorman

150 unknown jane, dagny, Tami, I'm back.  The stupid Ho's of the OC finale isn't on yet. 

Anyhow, unknown jane and dagny, I may need some road trip back up in the future, if ya'll don't mind a trip to Hotlanta.  Could prove to be fun.  Going up against Barry worshiping libtards can be informative and enlightening.

In the meantime, I'm like whoever said up thread they have whiplash.  Yeah, I'm there. 

151

Oh, to add a little spice to this debate, don't forget that more Obama Unemployment numbers come out tomorrow morning.

I expect economists to react to the unexpected news.

What bad news ... it was all the snowstorm's fault, remember?

152 Weird how no one mentions SCOTUS.

153 I am glad my TV never leaves the cartoon channel. I think the kids have buried the remote so I can't change the channel.

154 Rodent@156.  Heh.  Just had to ask, for Barry.  Do you pronounce Freikorps "Frei corpse"?  Marines everywhere need to know. 

155

just how bad the economy is doing:

http://tinyurl.com/exvby

every reality number (consumer credit, pending house sales. etc) is much lower than what these economists had predicted.

156 Weird how no one mentions SCOTUS.

Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at March 04, 2010 09:24 PM (dQdrY)

Don't worry, as a wise Latina, I know exactly what sort of health care the government should give you.

157

Okay, they just lost Delahunt.  Roller coaster up.

But he's just retiring so he'll be there til next January right? 

 

158 To maintain a strong presidency

Wasn't that one of the innumerable sins of the evil Bush?

159 I'm out fellow morons, keep your heads up we will prevail.

God Bless our Troops and their Families, they are fighting and dying while we talk about this BS in DC, never forget them!!!!

160

every reality number (consumer credit, pending house sales. etc) is much lower than what these economists had predicted.

(sigh) it's all so ... unexpected.

161

(sigh) it's all so ... unexpected.

Posted by: tank at March 04, 2010 09:29 PM (a8PUV)

The sun set in the west today. U-N-E-X-P-E-C-T-E-D. Just like it does every day.

162 I love 'Nam Grunt.  For real.  If Mr. D'oh ever kicks off, watch out.  I'm making a road trip to Louisiana.  And I will cut a bitch who gets in my way. 

(Looks at near empty bottle of Pinot.  Shrugs.  Pours another glass.)

163 Say the word!  There are no worshipping libtards in my family -- except for a couple of welfare divas who won't come to my house anyway, and I think one sil and her family, who quite wisely never bring up politics around us.  Definitely no excitement at any family gatherings on that front...could be fun.

164

is Delahunt a lunatic radical?

and he's retiring? soon, I hope!

165

Nomentum XI:  The Botox Queen

166 “To maintain a strong presidency we need to pass this bill,” the President said, according to Grijalva.

Has anyone President before, in our history, appealed to the Congress to save his pathetic ass?  I can't think of an example.  I would think that a Constitutional scholar would have a bit of understanding about separation of powers and all, but what do I know?  Of course, we don't have a President, just a Precedent ... so I guess this is "normal" ...

Meanwhile, I have a bad feeling that the treasonous dems are going to close their eyes and set off their suicide belts.  This health scare has a decent chance of being passed by dems who are terrified of The Precedent pulling the race card on them, so ... I see secession being the likely reaction to that.  Repeal only goes so far, and having passed this turd (that should have died 6 months ago, were it not for the Indonesian Imbecile and his contempt for our system) is a clear sign that this federal government has truly gone feral and will not be domesticated again.

167 Can't you hear me SOS?

168 unknown jane.  You're on.  Wear protective gear, however.  The lib cooties are powerful. 

169 52% of this electorate needs to be put to sleep.

170 I want to be an economist.  You never have to get anything right!

171

is Delahunt a lunatic radical?

and he's retiring? soon, I hope!

Why yes, that would describe my loathesome Congressman perfectly.  He is BFF's with among others Chavez, Castro, et al.  He needs to spend more time with his family, even though they he must seem them everyday since they are all on his payroll.

Unfortunately he is retiring and won't be up for re-election in November - which means he will be around until next year.  Unless something comes of the Amy Bishop debacle in Braintree when he was the DA.  I wonder if Marcia Coakley will be looking into it?

172
OT:  They say there's no immediate signs of terrorism but, with information coming in quickly, they haven't ruled anything out.

That kind of makes me think the guy's name just might be Jihadi al Jihad as shibumi said.

173 Doh, I worked as a college instructor (which means I'm qualified to be president of something, doesn't it?)...I'm immune to lefty cooties; lefty cootie kryptonite if you will.

174

_dammit

175 Has anyone President before, in our history, appealed to the Congress to save his pathetic ass?

Nope.  Even the losers at least did want to admit they were losers.

Unprecedented!

176 So Barry is telling the Dims to fall on their swords to save his hide. Brilliant.

177 177 Heh, yeah, I'd think by now, since they have him in custody, that it could be a big possibility.

178 That kind of makes me think the guy's name just might be Jihadi al Jihad as shibumi said.

That's profiling!

179 52% of this electorate needs to be put to sleep.

Posted by: TexasJew at March 04, 2010 09:33 PM (DhSWK)

We are working on it. Maybe not the same 52% you had in mind, but good enough for government work, right?

180 did=didn't on 180.  I'm drunk.

I blame Bush.  And Ted Kennedy for dying and driving down demand, hence prices, for Chivas Regal

181 Osama bin Laden with a Holiday Cruise ship packed full with Neutron Bombs couldn't destroy this country as efficiently as this little foreign puke of a President.

182 Barry's a coward.  He can't even stand up for his own beliefs.  Pisses me off beyond words he's CiC.  God bless and support our troops.

183 When is Obama going to plead to the Iranians to save his pathetic ass?

184 "Frei corpse"?  Marines everywhere need to know. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 04, 2010 09:26 PM (UOM4

Heh.

185

The up side to all this wealth- and nation-destruction?

Green Jobs!

186

191The up side to all this wealth- and nation-destruction? Green Jobs!

Yes, for a while, Grave Diggers will be in demand

187 When is Obama going to plead to the Iranians to save his pathetic ass?

Posted by: TexasJew at March 04, 2010 09:41 PM (DhSWK)

That'll be part of his World Traitor Tour II, for 2010.  In the first Traitor Tour, he told the world that the US was the worst place in the world, until he slimed into the Oval Office.  For his second tour (starting with his trip home, this month) he will speak about how the US is still the worst place in the world, even though he's trying his best to cut us down to size.  It won't be long before we get to hear,

"And I appeal to my muslim brothers and sisters of Iran to sit at a table with me, give a good show for the gullible Westerners (aren't they suckers?) and help save my strong Precedency that is on your side and doing my best to cut America off at the knees.  I'm working for you, so help me out, folks.  My Precedency depends on your help.  Allahu Akbar."

188 I lived in Tucson AZ when Grivalja was first elected. He is the quintessential Liberal Democrat hack, who in my opinion will shut up and vote the way he's told. Because of his district boundries he will also be office forever.

189 The shooter was identified by The Associated Press as John Patrick Bedell, 36.

190 That kind of makes me think the guy's name just might be Jihadi al Jihad as shibumi said.

Posted by: Coming Soon at March 04, 2010 09:35 PM (v7IWy)

 

nope...John Patrick Bedell, 36 years old

Well, I guess it wn't be long before we hear a hell of a lot more about him.   LSM will be falling all over themselves to tie him to the racist teabaggers in 5..4..3

191 Do to this what Dems did to Vietnam, and threatened to do to Iraq-- defund it. Tie it up in court.Appeal any and all sections you can. Alinsky it. Mau-mau it.

Doctor's strike. Medicare strike.  On and on.

Posted by: nickless at March 04, 2010 09:18 PM (MMC8r)

Exactly.  If this passes and proves irrepealable, it will have to be yet another case where the citizens taken matters into their own hands.  A movement bent on bringing down the system would be in order.  Flood it - cripple it - burden it so badly that if falls down.  Call the doctor for every ache and pain.  Go the the emergency room for every sniffle - just like the welfare scum do today.   

Happily, we simply can't afford it.  We can't borrow and print money forever in infinite amounts.  Eventually the entire system will fall.  We will reach a point where people no longer have too much to lose.  Then more vigorous action can be taken.  Passing health care will bring that day much closer.

 

192 What happens now in the House is game, set, match. If the House passes the current version of the Senate bill, Barry scrawls his X on it and it's permanent. An irrevocable entitlement that will draw howls of indignation if any Congress seeks to defund or repeal it. The lamestream will take up that cause just as they did demonizing the war in Iraq. This has to be stopped in the House. Whether it will be due to pressure from the moonbat left or the voices of sanity (which would be anything not on the left), if the House passes the Senate bill we're finished. Eight to ten percent unemployment will be baked into the system, and anemic GDP growth will be all we get. In other words, France.

193

What a ride.  And the rollercoaster goes up.

http://tinyurl.com/yce8zdr

 

194 Eight to ten percent unemployment will be baked into the system, and anemic GDP growth will be all we get. In other words, France.

Posted by: George Orwell at March 04, 2010 09:51 PM (AZGON)

Mr. McGuire: I want to say one word to you. Just one word.
Benjamin: Yes, sir.
Mr. McGuire: Are you listening?
Benjamin: Yes, I am.
Mr. McGuire: Plastics Emmigration.

195 If this passes, it WILL BE REPEALED one way or the other. It might take pitch forks and torches. Just remember, Americans purchased 14 MILLION guns in 2009 alone.

196

@147: "All BS aside friends I'm very happy that America is getting it, I hear folks talking everywhere about getting rid of this gang of thieves"

I was with you up to the comma.....

197 It might take pitch forks and torches. Just remember, Americans purchased 14 MILLION guns in 2009 alone.

Posted by: TexBob at March 04, 2010 09:56 PM (2jp4I)

Thanks for that reminder - I feel a bit better now.  Time to go shop for some more ammo... 

198

@174: "52% of this electorate needs to be put to sleep."

Can it be done by way of vigorous kicking?  As Soap in Lock, Stock & Two Smoking Barrels said: "A little pain never 'urt anyone, if yiz know wha' oi mean."

199 This has to be stopped in the House. Whether it will be due to pressure from the moonbat left or the voices of sanity (which would be anything not on the left), if the House passes the Senate bill we're finished. Eight to ten percent unemployment will be baked into the system, and anemic GDP growth will be all we get. In other words, France.

Posted by: George Orwell at March 04, 2010 09:51 PM (AZGON)

Not to mention the fact that it is the US health care market that drives R+D for the whole world.  No one spends money to create any drugs, machines, procedures, ... unless they have the US market as the primary target, because that's the only place where the profits are.  If we do away with our market, and the extra we have paid for the R+D, the whole world's health care slips into an intense stagnation (as socialist systems are all stagnating influences - as centralization forces stagnation to fit its own limited designs).

I just can't get past the idiocy of liberals who see the Euros drafting off of our health care system (and the extra we pay to for development) and think that the US can also draft off of ...

If this health scare goes through, not only is our basic delivery and availability destroyed, but health care advancement will come to a pretty quick halt.

200 if the House passes the Senate bill we're finished. Eight to ten percent unemployment will be baked into the system, and anemic GDP growth will be all we get. In other words, France.

I agree but am also afraid that we don't even get to be France for all that long.

It's my understanding that the social-democracy economies in Europe have been able to keep going as long as they have, in part, because they were able to draft along behind the U.S.

How long does France get to be France once we go down?

How long until we are all Greece?

201

Mr. McGuire: I want to say one word to you. Just one word.
Benjamin: Yes, sir.
Mr. McGuire: Are you listening?
Benjamin: Yes, I am.
Mr. McGuire: Plastics Emmigration. Secession.

Posted by: Reactionary at March 04, 2010 09:55 PM (4nbyM)

There's no where to emigrate to, anyway.  That's the biggest problem.

202 @201: Emmigration to where is the problem.

203 We could get a group together and go conquer Belize. Or New Zealand.

204 There's no where to emigrate to, anyway. That's the biggest problem. Looks like even Mars is off the table. The Sierra Club would protest exploiting its pristine wilderness.

205 wtf? Boehner said a vote next WEEK?

206

Dagny -- climb aboard, always room on the welcome wagon!

I'm not indisposed; in fact, I'm becoming less so with each passing moment.

What I meant by the bitter clingers being indisposed was that real america doesn't hold the senate, the congress or the presidency. It appears to be a temporary situation and they know that. I also think they know that they have awakened a sleeping giant----one that f-up the last election by nominating McCain, staying home for the sake of purity, or not putting out enough numbers to counter act the fraud. Indisposed as in not available for the moment or not active for the moment. It is their chance to change america but they don't have much time.

I have to admit that they have been clever. They have the media, they have the voter fraud, they have the universities, they have the aliens, they have the poor and the lazy. But we are still here and I think that there are more of us than there are of them---at least I think there are.

 

 

207 It's my understanding that the social-democracy economies in Europe have been able to keep going as long as they have, in part, because they were able to draft along behind the U.S.

Posted by: Deety at March 04, 2010 10:03 PM (aVzyR)

And, sadly, the GOP has never bothered mentioning this.  Not once have I heard any of them talk about this, when it should have been the second most important point, right behind the un-Constitutional nature of the federalization of individaul health care/insurance - which they also rarely bother mentioning.  The GOP has been concentrating on the cost issues, ceding all of the truly nasty and un-American aspects of the dems' plans.  It's pathetic and has been driving me crazy.

208 Looks like even Mars is off the table. The Sierra Club would protest exploiting its pristine wilderness.

Well gentlemen, I think that we are all agreed.

The only rational response to our present difficulties is time-travel.

209

There's no where to emigrate to, anyway.  That's the biggest problem.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at March 04, 2010 10:04 PM (A46hP)

And an interesting aspect of the leftist system. The left controls Western Europe, and to an extent Canada, but rather then move their and live in Utopia, they instead focus their efforts on the US.

It really does highlight the authoritarian streak of the Left. In fact, trying to deny people the right to leave might be the central mark of authoritarian systems. 

210 Posted by: Deety at March 04, 2010 10:03 PM (aVzyR)

BTW, My response to you was more specifically with respect to health care, not the whole of the economy, though it is doubly true for their economies, in general.

211 I have to admit that they have been clever. They have the media, they have the voter fraud, they have the universities, they have the aliens, they have the poor and the lazy. But we are still here and I think that there are more of us than there are of them---at least I think there are. Like I said, Americans, most of which are not included in the list of people above, purchased 14 MILLION guns in 2009 alone. If it comes to it they will be prepared to separate. When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

212

" But we are still here and I think that there are more of us than there are of them---at least I think there are. "

Yes, you are correct.  I have never given to a conservative or republican before or even think of campaigning for them. If the cram this POS bill down our throats, I plan to fundraise and campaign for every republican and conservative who will fight to repeal this POS socialist bill.

And while I am now a registered Independent, I have a democrat family, they are all very very pissed as well.

213 Jane and Jane - if you do it, take pictures.   Even if you're not wearing belts.

Hectoring differently-abled libs is fun, but it gets too easy after a while - kind of like shooting fish that aren't even in a barrel - instead they've been taken out and tacked to the wall.

You on the South or North Side of Atlanta?  She Who Must Be Obeyed and I lived in Brookhaven when I was in grad school, and later on we were in Alpharetta when I taught at GSU.  Good times.


 

214

And an interesting aspect of the leftist system. The left controls Western Europe, and to an extent Canada, but rather then move their and live in Utopia, they instead focus their efforts on the US. 

Very true.  I've written about this now and again.  Leftists have the whole world to choose from, for systems that are closer to what they claim they want, but they have to muck up the unique nation that stands alond in its individualism and respect for private property (though that respect has been very successfully attacked by the left and taken down 5 notches, already).

It really does highlight the authoritarian streak of the Left. In fact, trying to deny people the right to leave might be the central mark of authoritarian systems. 

Posted by: 18-1 at March 04, 2010 10:15 PM (bgcml)

Competition is not allowed in leftist systems, since they always lose.  It's funny, in a morbid, disgusting way, that the same leftists who scream bloody murder about the need to teach biological evolution in high school but have never met an evolutionary pressure that they didn't think they knew better than.  The left is always striving to build empowered, peerless, competitionless entities, which any cursory knowledge of evolutionary theory (or basic common sense) would clearly point to the idea that such entities always grow in grotesque and destructive ways. 

This is why I can't believe anyone with more than two brain cells could even support the theory of the UN, let alone actually implementing such insanity.  Now, that is a truly peerless, competitionless entity, though the left tries to create their own by restricting the right to leave their leftist utopias.

215

There's no where to emigrate to, anyway.  That's the biggest problem.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at March 04, 2010 10:04 PM (A46hP)

Depends on your expectations.  There are some warm third world nations in this hemisphere that aren't violent or disorderly - just poor - and have NO welfare state.  They like people with capital and skills and a work ethic.  I hope to be making my land purchase and setting up accounts later this year or early next year in my area of choice.  Sadly I'll need to work at least 10 more years to build up my retirement pile.  I hope other morons who are old enough to have accumulated stuff will start looking around as well.  The US is a great land, and for a long time has been the best place on earth.  But it's being destroyed. 

216 My response to you was more specifically with respect to health care, not the whole of the economy, though it is doubly true for their economies, in general.

Got it.  But the health care discussion offers up many specific real world examples of why this it so.

One of my favorites is the whole "we need to re-import drugs from Canada where they are so ever so much less expensive than the US" idea.

I despair when I hear this kind of thinking being articulated.

But that's probably because I'm too stupid to understand profits and earnings ratios.

217

More rollercoaster -- mostly up!  Did you see that Geert Wilders' Libertarian party has won in his city in the Netherlands?  Another NY state legislator has flipped from D to R, giving the governing board a GOP majority.  Heck, Dondero has lots of cool stuff over there.

http://tinyurl.com/ndoqo6

 

218 There are some warm third world nations in this hemisphere that aren't violent or disorderly - just poor - and have NO welfare state.

Yeah, like Honduras!

But don't worry we'll soon set them straight.

219

Posted by: Reactionary at March 04, 2010 10:25 PM (4nbyM)

I would consider that an absolute, last resort. I put secession in front of it, since the world needs a limited government/individualistic/private property loving nation.

Got it. But the health care discussion offers up many specific real world examples of why this it so.

Very much so. I am so distressed that the GOP never addressed this point of the Euros leeching off of our system and the fact that we pay extra for the best, and driving advancement, that I don't even have words for it.

One of my favorites is the whole "we need to re-import drugs from Canada where they are so ever so much less expensive than the US" idea.

I despair when I hear this kind of thinking being articulated.

Hear, hear! I laugh when I hear the re-importation arguments. It's almost as if these idiot leftists thinkt hat the drugs originated in Canada. They are just clueless. And, again, the GOP has had nothing to say about this.

But that's probably because I'm too stupid to understand profits and earnings ratios.

Posted by: Deety at March 04, 2010 10:28 PM (aVzyR)

"Profit and earnings ratios" is my favorite phrase. I'm always glad to see others who remember it, as well. It summed up the mind-boggling stupidity of The Precedent in a neat little package.  And that this blithering idiot has the gall to lecture us on anything that includes numbers larger than 20 is just unreal.

220 Posted by: Deety at March 04, 2010 10:28 PM (aVzyR)

Sorry about screwing up the formatting so badly on that.  Oy.  I feel like a liberal.

221 Hellcare w/o tort reform. What could go wrong?

222 30 mil more patients will create approx 100,000 jobs for lawyers

223 Grijalva (D, Mexico) is to the left of Castro and never for a moment has he considered voting against ObamaFascistcare. He simply feels his kickback or opportunity for graft is insufficient and so is trying to up the ante.

224 Save  your Presidency?  Frankly Obama, I don't give a damn.

225 New name for this crap:

NeroCare.

226 Grijalva (D-Mexico) is a big loser and the tea party is backing a strong candidate to boot this asshat out.

227

Oh my

Sheehan's New Website Tea-bagged by the People's Cube

http://tiny.cc/TM6xI

228 The time of the Torches and Pitchforks grows near.

Very near.

The Founders foresaw times like these - that is why they wrote the Second Amendment.

229 Grijalva (D-Mexico) is a big loser and the tea party is backing a strong candidate to boot this asshat out.

Do you mean this Raúl Grijalva (D-AZ)?


Raúl began his public career as a community organizer when he joined with several other advocates to start El Rio Community Health Center. During his time at El Rio, Raúl worked with other activists to "encourage" local governments to "invest" in older and minority neighborhoods. He helped organize "neighborhood empowerment efforts" that prompted the city of Tucson to expand services to the south and west sides...

...From 1974 to 1986, Raúl served on the Tucson Unified School District.  He was a hands-on board member who worked to increase funding and support for public education, and who advocated on behalf of teacher, employee and civil rights (Unions & La Raza)...

...Since his election to Congress in 2002, Raúl has worked to improve the quality of life for working families by promoting minimum wage increases, supporting legislation to prevent intimidation, and pushing to help employees organize and represent themselves in the workplace.

And in case you were wondering about the demographics in his chunk of a red state:

The southern boundary of District 7 coincides with 300 miles of the US/Mexico border. Only TexasÂ’ 23rd district has a longer stretch of the southern border.

The urban center of District 7 contains the central, south and west sides of the city of Tucson (The shootier and stabbier bits). The population within the district is predominantly working-class families, from a variety of ethnic and racial backgrounds. The majority of TucsonÂ’s Hispanic, urban Native American and African-American residents live in the 7th congressional district.

I'm really quite curious about this "strong candidate" that the tea party is supporting.  I ain't heard a peep of a real contender going up against the asshat in his district.  Unfortunately, I fear that Grievance Grijalva is as well ensconced in his patch as any other race-hustler / poverty pimp from a big blue state city.

230 TO THE PHONES AND FAXES, NOW.  EVERY CONGRESSMEN MUCH KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IF THIS THING PASSES.

231 THEY MUST KNOW.

232

The population has swallowed every other mandate from D.C.

Why would now be any different?

233 " 2010 Contract with America
     Item 1. REPEAL obamacare "

Naw... With McConnell in charge of the Senate,

Item 1 : Cower in the corner in fear of how it might look taking people's insurance away. 
Item 2 : Blather on and on about how the Democrats used parlimentary tricks to pass Obamacare without making any coherent concise message about what the GOP stands for... 
Item 3 : Repeat Item 1 thru Item 3...

234

Did Ann Coulter say fag on Hannity tonight?

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