1
The numbers are so huge, they're meaningless at this point.

2 Bring it on!

3

At least we won't be the worst-off nation in the world after this, because when we go down, everyone else is going down with us.

4 Thievery at the highest levels, call it what it is.

5 I forgot who said it, but perhaps the greatest quote ever..."no one has ever taxed themselves to prosperity."

Without even looking, I'm saying Reagan

6 The overall budget has to pass with 60 votes in the Senate, right?

7 I'm thinking Rush is going to find it hard to hide his agitated state today.

8 Give Barry some credit in his $3.8 trillion budget he is looking at about $20 billion in cuts or changes.

9 This thing needs more than a hatchet.  It is machete material.

10 you mean 'Trillions" Drew.

11 The Senate voted to raise the deficit ceiling to over $14 trillion. We need to hang that millstone around the Democrats neck.

12 This thing needs more than a hatchet.  It is machete material.

I'm thinking chainsaw.  A really large chainsaw.

13 If you haven't heard, He inherited this mess. Haters.

14 Obama campaigned on ending government programs that were shown to be redundant or not to work.( I liked that promise.) How about Head Start? Can we scrap that since the last report said it did nothing?

15 Those Bush tax cuts were intended to stimulate the economy and to reduce unemployment and they worked.  Raising taxes will work in reverse.

16 And lets not forget Obama's continued quest to help us join the third world by killing US manned space exploration.

17 You couldn't pay me enough to like these ratfuckers.

18 It takes money to spend money.

19 This thing needs more than a hatchet. It is machete material. I'm thinking chainsaw. A really large chainsaw. Good enthusiasm, but the wrong approach. Pack of matches and a can of lighter fluid.

20 This budget call for a serious chainsaw.
 http://tinyurl.com/yb4fosu

21 The costs of war in Afghanistan and Iraq—budgeted as "overseas contingency operations"—are projected to increase by $46 billion over 2010-2011, above expectations contained in last year's budget.

But the troops are coming home from Iraq in August because the war is ending, right Barry?

22 If ever there's a bill which called for reconciliation passing, it's an omnibus budget bill.

23 Pack of matches and a can of lighter fluid.


No, that should be saved for the clowns who try to sell us on this abomination.

24 He's a community organizer, what do you expect?  He's spent his entire life spending or giving away other people's money, never did a thing in his life to generate revenue, all the while giving as little as >1% of his own income to charity.  This was so easy to see coming Stevie Wonder could have spotted it a mile out.

25 At least we won't be the worst-off nation in the world after this, because when we go down, everyone else is going down with us.

I think that the idea is for the US to lose momentum and strength relative to other nations. So, yeah, Brazil will take a hit but we will have taken a much worse one given where we started off (i.e. strength and leadership).

26 And these deficits include revenue from crap and tax!

27 I'm not good at math either. So am I broke?

28 No, 50 (assuming Joey Super Smart Biden votes for it) will get it done. Budget matters are not subject to fillibuster rules.

Nuts.  I thought that was just for the end bits and pieces done through reconciliation.

29 We. Are. Fucked. And. Not. In. The. Good. Way.

30 This is a budget that Rod Blagojevich could be proud of.  State Senator Barack Obama helped him create budget after budget that simply borrowed from the future to fund wasteful spending today.

31 The deficit would drop to the equivalent of 5% of GDP in 2013 through expected economic improvement alone.

Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha

32 like i was sayin', there goes our membership in the european union. which means, there goes my trip to euro-disneyland. thanks a lot, mr. i-went-to-harvard-and-won-the-nobel-prize.

33 I hate liberals. They fuck everything up all the time.

34

Reacting to the President's Budget  [KJL] - the corner -

Scott Hodge, president of the Tax Foundation, tells NRO: "This budget should put a stake in the heart of Keynesian economics once and for all. If government spending was the engine for economic growth, the U.S. would now be the economic wonder of the world and the president would not be tying our fortunes to a grab bag of targeted tax credits to 'create jobs.'"

"The biggest problem facing the ability of the U.S. economy to compete in the global economy is our high corporate tax rate," Hodge argues, "now second highest among industrialized countries to Japan. Rather than lower the rate, the president is proposing $209 billion in tax increases on U.S. companies trying to compete abroad. Not only is the U.S. corporate tax rate out of step with the rest of the world, but the administration is out of step with the realities of global business today."

Hodge adds: "Ironically, the president said he wants to promote more exports. What is he expecting? That U.S. companies will just make stuff here and not develop supply chains, sales offices, or marketing efforts abroad? Heaven forbid they do because they will be rewarded with higher taxes if the administration gets its way."

35 During our monthly company meeting today, one of the Dem zombies was trumpeting the "Obama Budget" as he put it.

It's un fucking believable that people are willing to ignore the worst economy since the great depression and STILL praise this douche bag in office and the worst congress in history.

We need jobs and national security.  Meanwhile Preznint fuck nuts is blathering on about AGW and health care reform that is NOT NEEDED.

One word describes this president:

Officious

36

Where are all the people up in arms about human rights.

Follow me here. We can't ask to borrow trilions from China, and then ask them to do something about human rights. As China and Russia gain more power than us, by DRILLING, they will not be beholden to us for anything. Including HR violations, and selling Nuke tech to whomever they want.

So yeah, the budget sucks, but behind that is enslavement, and 'Nukes 4 All". This will be a dangerous, and potentially deadly for all, future for everybody on the planet.

37 feed the pig!  feed the pig!  If you put enough money into the front of the machine, something good MUST come out the ass-end.  Just keep a close eye out on the pig's ass.

38 You know what else went up?  My blood pressure and levels of Rage. 

39 i dropped the "g" in "saying" for the appropriate effect. folksy.

40
This is the Obama administration's Keynesian/Krugman economy.  Spend spend spend.  Then stand back in amazement and watch the economy tank.
oh!  Big daddy government to the rescue! - with a nice populist dose of "Blame Bush".

41 And we're sit canning the Space Program. How come the Kennedy's are not up in arms?

42 if the total budget is 3.8 Billion and the deficit spending is 1.6 Billion, that means just over 40% of the entire budget is borrowed money. Again, I'm not good at math but someone want to explain how that's even remotely sustainable?

Math has nothing to do with it. This is all about printing presses ... and the descent into the monetary abyss.

This is merely national suicide ... which is what America voted for on Nov 4th, 2008. No big deal. We wanted it. We got it. Led by an ineligible, arrogant retard, to add to the humiliation.

43

I'm not good at math but someone want to explain how that's even remotely sustainable?

Easy. The nation's creditors (China, Russia, Britain, banks, insurance companies, pension funds, mutual funds, etc.) simply grow by 8% every year indefinitely into the future.

44 but what is with these yale & harvard educated politicians? they drop their verbal g's faster than a stripper droppin' her g-string.

45 This is like adding 50 cowbell musicians to Blue Oyster Cult.  We are going to need a bigger stage.

46

madness!

insanity!

Beck is right, Obama IS trying to collapse the economy

47
As long as the Obama administration can hide behind a few meaningless "targeted tax cuts" for the middle class - the spending spree will continue. 

48 Posted by: MelodicMetal in MA at February 01, 2010 11:36 AM (x4S2a) Your post really pissed me off, mostly because I had to look up 'officious' 1. objectionably aggressive in offering one's unrequested and unwanted services, help, or advice; meddlesome

49 Why the worry?  We can always print more money.  And if we run out of cash, we can just vote again to raise the credit limit on our national Mastercard. 

That frees us to spend more time  on stuff like replacing groundhogs with robots. 

50 to the left, bush elidin' the g was seen as a sign of his bein' a dolt. but what's obama's excuse? panderin' like a stripper before the yokels.

51 Don't underestimate this toad.  He blamed the entire economic downturn on Bush when addressing the GOP.  I put nothing past this socialist.

52
cowbell musicians

wat

53 but that obama sure likes speechifyin'. they say he learnt it up there at harvard. ya know, you can always tell a harvard man.

54 but you can't tell him much!

55 ya know, you can always tell a harvard man. Posted by: gomm at February 01, 2010 11:45 AM (Ibk1S) Ya can? I went to Oxford.

56 I don't buy the 3.8T figure for a second.  Need to add the social insecurity program to that, and a few other things as well.  What is the real total?  6 trillion?  7?   8?

It is a beast that will require more than one meteor to kill.

57 I'm not good at math either. So am I broke?

Hardly.  You sound like a fine candidate for budget czar.  It pays $500,000/yr and all you need to do is know how to work a Ouija board.

58 (& if that old chestnut hasn't been said on this site yet, shame on all of you.)

59 I forgot who said it, but perhaps the greatest quote ever..."no one has ever taxed themselves to prosperity."

A similar quote:

"We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle."  
- Winston Churchill

60

Standby for a Moody's adjustment.

What is funny is Fox keeps showing the jug-eared jackass talking about the budget.

When are they going to learn that every time he opens his mouth a lie comes out. You can not trust a single damn thing he says. Hell, with Clinton, at least you could believe about 25% of it. 

61 Obama's Budget Is 'Fiscal Insanity': Sen. GreggCNBC.com | February 01, 2010 | 10:56 AM EST

President Obama's economic policies are promoting 'fiscal insanity' that is leading the nation down the path of insolvency, Sen. Judd Gregg (R)-NH told CNBC Monday.

"We're going to get ourselves into deep, deep trouble here if we continue to pursue this course of fiscal insanity, in my opinion," said Gregg, a ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee, said in a live interview.

"It's not just this year, which is the issue of stimulus," Gregg added. "It's the year after, it's the year after that and the year after, eight years out the president is projecting a trillion dollar defecit, a trillion dollars every year for the next eight years, that's not acceptable. You just cant do that to this country because you're basically taking us down the road of insolvency."

snip~

"If you have a government in place with an inherent antipathy towards the market and capitalism, and I believe this government does, I wish it weren't true, but this is the government of community organizers. They believe in social justice," said Gregg.

62

Crusty: He's a community organizer, what do you expect? He's spent his entire life spending or giving away other people's money, never did a thing in his life to generate revenue, all the while giving as little as >1% of his own income to charity. This was so easy to see coming Stevie Wonder could have spotted it a mile out.

True dat.

shoey: Beck is right, Obama IS trying to collapse the economy

True dat.

 

63 Without even looking, I'm saying Reagan

Or Thatcher.

i dropped the "g" in "saying" for the appropriate effect. folksy.

I thought it was your new-fangled Negro-dialect.

64 Cavuto on fox said that the his numbers show the debt to be 110% of GDP, so a disagreement with wsj or maybe Cavuto meant to say the budget was 110%, either way We.Are.Screwed.

And then some idiot democratic rep from south carolina said we must spend our way into prosperity.

65 jethro, was that oxford, mississippi or THE oxford?

66

"If you have a government in place with an inherent antipathy towards the market and capitalism, and I believe this government does, I wish it weren't true, but this is the government of community organizers. They believe in social justice," said Gregg.

Here's how I read that:

"In the end (from Obama's budget), there will be only (financial) chaos".

67

"If you have a government in place with an inherent antipathy towards the market and capitalism, and I believe this government does, I wish it weren't true, but this is the government of community organizers. They believe in social justice," said Gregg.

True dat.

 

68 I blame Bush!!!1!11!!!11!1!!

69

"One word describes this president:

Officious"

 

Does that mean...uhh...not hungry?  'Cause I really don't want this...uhhh...slice of pie.

70 jethro, was that oxford, mississippi or THE oxford? Posted by: gomm at February 01, 2010 11:49 AM (Ibk1S) I gadiated the 6th grade.

71 I can't believe I defended this douchebag.

72 how that's even remotely sustainable?

Unicorns.

73

Not only is the deficit approaching 40% of the entire budget, but this is highly regressive.  It always makes me laugh when liberals propose this level of deficit spending because the interest payments on the debt are growing larger and larger, and that is nothing but a gigantic transfer of wealth from the middle class who pay taxes to the largely wealthy incvestors around the world who buy our debt.  At this level of debt and deficit, this reverse redistribution is actually exceeding any positive redistributive effect of government spending.  Bill Clinton understood this and actually talked about it as a Progressive rationale for balancing the budget, running surpluses and paying down the debt.

But you'll never hear Paul Krugman talk about that.

74 If we all go broke together does that mean we all get a do over?

75 Something else that needs to be hung over the dems head (and this could also be ILLEGAL) is the fact that they voted to extend the deficit with Senator Kirk (The Ahole that was APPOINTED by Duval Patrick before there was a special election that got Scott Brown ELECTED.  The election results have YET TO BE CERTIFIED BY OUR SECRETARY OF STATE.

1.  Scott Brown should have been seated by now.
2.  The Senate voted with somebody was was no longer our Senator
3.  The GOP needs to HAMMER that home.  Having hurry up votes to extend the budget ceiling is WRONG.

I've called Secretary Galvins office here in MA, and the BS excuse that was given to me was this:

"We have already sent our letter of confirmation to Washington.  They are waiting to hear from The individual Towns for confirmation.  Folks, I smell a rat, and I bet it's in Obamas office.

76 Next on the agenda, boys and girls:  How we're going to pay for it!

Lesseee....we'll tax the rich....take away the oil company profits with "fees", increase ALL federal taxes by two percent....nail those fat-cat Wall Street companies with fees they'll never believe.....Oh!  And then we'll tax middle America to offset whatever's left over...probably not more than a couple hundred billion or so!

77 Yeah, let's just print-up 10% of GDP worth of funny money and dump it down an endless sink-hole. What could possibly go wrong? Two people who are happy these days... Cloward. And Piven. Of course one of them is currently in the afterlife he so richly deserves, so perhaps "happy" isn't the correct descriptor.

78

""We have already sent our letter of confirmation to Washington."

Earlier conjecture - Reid would sit on it for wks.  Reason - hard to schedule into their busy calander.

79

Just wait until the Houses of Congress get their paws on this one ...  We could end up with a 2 Trillion dollar single year deficit ...  tax revenues will be down again in 2010 and 2011 ...  don't forget also he's claiming 65 Billion in Cap 'n Steal revenues in the 2011 budget ...

I say why not propose the "Magical Tax Bill" and claim that it will wipe out the entire deficit in 2 years ...  it apparently doesn't have to actually be a real law ...

The text of the "Magical Tax Bill":  The government will be paid 10 trillion dollars per year.

 

80 At the very least Obama could give us a reach around. Jeez.

81

was that oxford, mississippi or THE oxford?

Hey!!

82

"Of course one of them is currently in the afterlife he so richly deserves, so perhaps "happy" isn't the correct descriptor."

 

You got that right, buddy.

83 you know, THE oxford, oxford, europe.

84

John Bradley: Is it asking too much for the freakin' Wall Street Journal to not repeat this damned half-truth that "companies will pay more in taxes/fees/etc." I mean, I don't have to tell a bunch of Morons that companies don't pay taxes, they merely serve as an adjuct of the IRS, collecting taxes from their customers and passing them to the Govt.

It gets even worse; the revenues that they are collecting for the IRS are plummeting - see this post by Kristinn at Free Republic:

Year-to-date federal government revenues totaled $487.78 billion, compared to $547.38 billion for the first three months of fiscal 2009. Individual income-tax receipts totaled $207.73 billion, compared to $255.29 billion. Corporate tax revenues were at $33.93 billion, down from $50.37 billion.

 

85

Just think, we could have a President who understands basic math and is able to perform simple addition and subtraction.

We could also have a pro-American President.

FU 52. Thanks for nothin'.

86

"Again, I'm not good at math but someone want to explain how that's even remotely sustainable?" - Ace

It's the wrong question.

The right one is "Who will benefit when the house of cards comes crashing down?"

87 22 Wrong!  If it hasn't been said already -- high grade explosives; this thing warrants high grade explosives.

88  @82  well, the dems did tell us they would delay the seating.  rules and ethics are for suckers.

89 He'll still make it a close election in 2012.  I swear, half this country thinks government's role is to do stuff for them, you can always just take money from "the rich" with no consequences, and they buy all this class warfare BS.

90

Well, Obama can't blame Bush for this

He did..yet again...just this morning.

91 40 During our monthly company meeting today, one of the Dem zombies was trumpeting the "Obama Budget" as he put it.

Well, he did freeze spending.

92 Where the hell is my reach around! For the money the Government is shelling out they could buy every man a couple of hookers for life!

93 So, what is he doing behind our backs now that everyone is concentrating on the budget?

94 Bambi's plan to make us a banana republic are right on track.

95 To use my brother's words..We are hemorrhaging money out of our eyeballs. This fuck face fuck is going to destroy this country.

96

Mallamutt, as much as t his pains me to say this.

Peter Starks went to my High school.

97 I won't stop printing money and spending until the $US is as worthy of us as the Mark was to the pre-WWII Germans. Furthermore, Rahm is recommending a request for a "suicide clause" for the next crisis. I'll hold off until I can run this by Nancy and Harry and seek their guidance. It's called budgeting and bipartisanship you see.

98 "Again, I'm not good at math but someone want to explain how that's even remotely sustainable?" - Ace

Actually that was Drew, but ya never know, cause Andi Sully has shown us the way.

99 Embrace the insolvency.

100

And yet, the DJIA rallies.  +79.35 right now.

Baffling.

101

It's all about creating jobs.  Opie is very very good at that.

Czars R Us.

102

Unicorns.

They are our only hope at this point.

103 Staggering.

104 Abandon All Hope Ye Who Live In America.

105 Good thing I know how to live poor.  So do my kids.  Unfortunately, I can't say the rest for most of America.  Especially the brain-sponge population who voted for the Destroyer of Worlds.

106

Here's a fact check on Hensarling's assertion at Baltimore meeting w/ Oblunder

http://tiny.cc/6GujX

107 Obama needs to increase taxes.  That's the only way to create jobs.

108 And yet, the DJIA rallies.  +79.35 right now.

Baffling.

Everything costs more as the dollar drops.

109

Someday, people will realize that spending increases the debt and that taxes, by stifling the economy, increase the debt as well. Laffer was right.

In fact, the reason the plan of some GOP hawks to "starve the governmental beast" didn't work is *precisely because* Laffer was right.

110

Everything costs more as the dollar drops.

Bingo! With devaluing dollars, the "increases" in the stock market are illusory.

111 And yet, the DJIA rallies. +79.35 right now.

Baffling.

Posted by: toby928 at February 01, 2010 12:06 PM (PD1tk)

When monetary inflation really kicks in, the Dow could head to 10,000,000.

112 There is a bright side to this, not everyday do you get to see Nero play his fiddle while Rome burns.

113 That's one thing I always disliked about the Dems--bribery as a political philosophy. Most of us are okay with a drop or two of populism--contrary to what Obama believes, we're not entirely heartless--but a point has been reached where populism descended into corruption and socialism and that must STOP.

114 "creating jobs..." even taking the administrations most optimistic jobs created or saved figures, it comes at a cost of something like $150,000 to $200,000 each. and they want another job stimulus outlay...

115 Obama's jobs bill will save us.

116 I hope Neros will play something upbeat; I'm almost out of Value-Rite.

117 I have this idea I am working on.

118 94 22 Wrong!  If it hasn't been said already -- high grade explosives; this thing warrants high grade explosives.

Napalm.  Lots and lots of napalm.

119

Unicorns.

They are our only hope at this point.

Charlie!

120 So have we convinced the Chinese that ground up unicorn horn makes them potent and only have male babies -- gotta create a market.

121

#93  The right one is "Who will benefit when the house of cards comes crashing down?"

Me.

122 We GOPer better start talking about actual CUTS.  CUTS, not just non-increases in spending.  C U T S.

123 Obama's jobs bill will save us.

Posted by: gus at February 01, 2010 12:12 PM (Vqruj)

I thought Gus Hall was dead?

124 I hope NewYork State goes bankrupt.  It's our only hope. 

125 Napalm.  Lots and lots of napalm.

Posted by: GEN Curtis LeMay at February 01, 2010 12:13 PM (wPZU5)

Mr. President, we are rapidly approaching a moment of truth both for ourselves as human beings and for the life of our nation. Now, truth is not always a pleasant thing. But it is necessary now to make a choice, to choose between two admittedly regrettable, but nevertheless *distinguishable*, postwar environments: one where you got twenty million people killed, and the other where you got a hundred and fifty million people killed.

126

Every politician should be forced to answer this question:

Do you believe you can multiply wealth by dividing wealth?

That should be the litmus test.

Furthermore, instead of the candidate's name, put that question and answer on the ballot.

Of course if I had my way I'd see to it that people that don't file tax returns (minus those on disability) would be denied the opportunity to cast a vote in any election, so there ya go.  

127

"We GOPer better start talking about actual CUTS. "

I'd like to first propose Dept of Energy

128

JMIO - I believe that since Obama is setting this country up to focus inward, Russia will see that and take advantage of it.  I believe that they will do everything in their power to insinuate themselves into and all over S. America, 1) to put pressure on the couple of growing and successful democracies down there and 2) to jab it up the U.S.'s ass.  I would say China might try this as well, but I think that for the most part, China sees the far east as their sphere of influence right now and would just like to see the U.S. out of there.  Russia, on the other hand, just likes to keep the pot boiling.  They also want to pay the U.S. back for the collapse in the 80s & 90s.

Of course, if this happens, Obama will downplay any of it and just let it happen.  He'll try to leverage his standing with the MSM to keep it quiet which shouldn't be too hard since they really don't report news anymore.

129

96 "He'll still make it a close election in 2012.  I swear, half this country thinks government's role is to do stuff for them, you can always just take money from "the rich" with no consequences, and they buy all this class warfare BS."

It always amazes me when your having a conversation with someone who seems like a normal, reasonable person and they start in about how the rich are fucking the rest of us over.  These people don't see the country as a place where hard work, good ideas and a break here and there can elevate any citizen to the next level.  They view wealth as something that is static; that the pie is only so large and the "wealthy" have an unfair portion.

It's like that guy at work who has no ambition other than to do a mediocre, passable job week after week and collect his paycheck and go home.  That same guy who has the audacity to bitch and complain when he's passed up for promotion or gets a mediocre raise.  "No," he surmises, "Management owes me more.  They're getting rich off of my hard work." He thinks.

The libs have been pounding class warfare into the mush that passes for brains for a large portion of our citizenry.  What pisses me off the most is that so many dumbfucks buy into it.

130

Actually Bill Lumbergh might have said that--he like productivity!

But alas, it was I.

131 "97 Well, Obama can't blame Bush for this

He did..yet again...just this morning."

Exactly...and the previous congress and Senate...didn't  he belong in one of those?  ... or so we were led to believe.

132

Mr. President, we are rapidly approaching a moment of truth both for ourselves as human beings and for the life of our nation. Now, truth is not always a pleasant thing.

What's true for you isn't necessarily what's true for me.

/sarc

133

Unicorns.

This mess is too big for unicorns alone.  We're going to need skittles too. 

Can't forget the skittles.

134 ha..My boss just said we are going to increase our budgeted amount for company parties by 300% and then when the wife bitches, we can say we are freezing it at that for 2011.  Then, as a liberal, she should be happy with it. 

135 All we need is some kind of grant for $1.6 trillion, and we're all good.

Somebody write a proposal.

136

Maybe I'm looking at a slightly older budget summary but...

Obama said he wants a freeze on non-security discretionary spending.

Do you know why he left out security discretionary spending? Because he wants to DECREASE security spending:

2010: $-54.3 billion

2011: $-141.4 billion

2012: $-149.5 billion

2013: $-157.2 billion

or putting in spending terms:

2010: $673 billion

2011: $614 billion

2012: $604 billion

2013: $609 billion

 

 

 

137 Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 01, 2010 12:21 PM (U37Ux)

If this keeps up we will need leprechaun strippers handing out valu-rite and blow.

138 Not to worry people, just keep spreading out stimulus...like loves of bread and fishes, yea!  Trust me, I've heard of this working before.  You'll be surprised how far it will go.

139

"didn't  he belong in one of those?"

Why I believe he did.  Yes, that seems correct.  I believe he has casting yeas for the 3009 budget and TARP on his resume.

140 did Jimmy Carter have a campaign song. Should we start playing it again?

141 Well, Obama can't blame Bush for this

He did..yet again...just this morning."

Got a link for that?  I love to laugh at stupidity.

142 Rush discussing this now. 

143 "These people don't see the country as a place where hard work, good ideas and a break here and there can elevate any citizen to the next level. "

Problem is, there are too many rich limousine liberals like Al Gore that got rich by screwing everybody else, and not by hard work.  It is those kinds of people that the left look up to.  The only rich people they want to bitch about ARE the hard working fiscally conservatives. 

144 ... to which i humbly present a modest proposal: the government should buy children from people. this will have several ameliorative effects. it will put dollars directly into the pockets of america's hard pressed families which will stimulate consumption; in addition, no more worrying about day care, baby sitters and the costs of a college education. secondly, the kids can then be put to work rebuilding the country's infrastructure, which at a cost of, say, 50 cents an hour, will achieve a net savings for the government. lastly, it will help to imbue today's feckless youth with a work ethic and sense of shared values. we can call it the AFRA, American Family Relief Act.

145 And yet, the DJIA rallies.  +79.35 right now.

Was up 100.  Starting to fall

So, what is he doing behind our backs now that everyone is concentrating on the budget?

Sending missile defense to the Saudis and their neighbors because his Iran policy has been SO FRUITFUL.  Increasing the war outlays.  The sorts of things his lefty friends don't want to hear about.

146 96 He'll still make it a close election in 2012.  I swear, half this country thinks government's role is to do stuff for them, you can always just take money from "the rich" with no consequences, and they buy all this class warfare BS.

Posted by: brak at February 01, 2010 12:03 PM (W5NBA)

I agee.  The 52% are so uneducated it's pathetic.  Rasmussen's Daily Presidential tracking poll was at -17 a few days prior to his SOTU speech.  Now it's amazingly at -4.  Nothing changed, nothing improved.  All that happened was that the Presidential Dumbfuck just gave one of the biggest bullshit speeches in history and he got a 13 point bounce.  There is no cure for stupidity. We are truly fucked!

147

Unicorns.

This mess is too big for unicorns alone.  We're going to need skittles too. 

Can't forget the skittles.

Taste the rainbow.

148 I hate this bitch--talking like we had a choice about the "2 wars without paying for it".  Dude is such a jackass lying piece of crap.  He voted yes on every spending bill that came up from 2005 on. 

149 katya - his first five sentences this morning were "I came into office after .....worse economy since.....previous administrations....passed programs that weren't funded..blah, blah.."  You don't need a new link, just read any previous speech.

150
Such a whining piece of shit.  'Bush Bush Bush!' 

151 Maybe they bored into his brain.... Obama Asks Tampa Mayor To Check For Head Lice Rush is playing Obama's unveiling of his budget right now and guess what? It's Bush's fault. Even though BO voted for every spending bill since 2005. Thanks 52! Banana Republic here we come!

152

 "So, what is he doing behind our backs now that everyone is concentrating on the budget?"

Well...uhh..now that you ask, just bend over a little more.  This shouldn't...uhhh..hurt too much.

153 Good thing my family knows how to live poor because we already are.  That yurt is starting to look better and better (it'll be the only thing we can afford to own here pretty soon at this rate).

154 House Budget GOP response...

http://is.gd/7upym

155 Foreigners like China do not have enough dollars to buy 5 trillion of US debt in the next 5 years. They just do not have the money. The FED is going to be buying them on the down low which will ultimately lead to inflation at some point and higher interest rates.

156

his first five sentences this morning were "I came into office after .....worse economy since.....previous administrations....passed programs that weren't funded..blah, blah.." 

That'll be on his headstone.

157 107

And yet, the DJIA rallies.  +79.35 right now.

Baffling.

Dow is being manipulated. Has no relation what so ever to real life. IMHO

158 Canada IS looking better.  That's sad.

My wife and kids are already there, and I'll get my landing papers in August, most likely.  Yeah, they are socialist, but they aren't nearly as nihilist.

159

I can't wait for the Treasury to print up a trillion or so more in securities and have China and the rest of the usual buyers say "fuck you, I'm not touchin' that with Bernanke's dick."  I think China already made mention of U.S. debt being something other countries aren't obligated to buy. 

Will Bernanke actually touch it with his dick and buy up the debt like they have before?  Will the Treasury have to print up some more money?  Will one of these financial whizkids finally figure out that the toxic assets which lead us down this road are still out there for shit's sake?  Will they finally wake up and realize that our incestuous monetary policies have given birth to an economic retard?

The day of reckoning is approaching, and that right soon.  That's gonna be one bigass reset button.

160 Just wanted you to know that I'm now at Hot Air on the "Noted Deficit Hawk" post to spread my Harvard-educated wisdom all over your Indian and Jewish tonsil-thieving asses!!!

161

Crusty: He's a community organizer, what do you expect? He's spent his entire life spending or giving away other people's money, never did a thing in his life to generate revenue, all the while giving as little as >1% of his own income to charity.

Michael: All we need is some kind of grant for $1.6 trillion, and we're all good. Somebody write a proposal.

You guys realize that they really do think like this, right?

They really do think that money grows on the trees which flourish in the backyards of evil Republican fat-cat corporatists, out in the suburbs.

All you have to do is send some Americorps volunteers out to the suburbs to pick the money off the money trees, and then we can fund the grants and everything will be hunky-dory.

 

162 Looks like 162 beat me to it.  Fucker.

163

"Will they finally wake up and realize that our incestuous monetary policies have given birth to an economic retard?"

I like that phrase.

164

I can't wait for the Treasury to print up a trillion or so more in securities and have China and the rest of the usual buyers say "fuck you, I'm not touchin' that with Bernanke's dick."

That would be "Bernanke's little circumcised dick".

FTFY.

 

165

Again, I'm not good at math but someone want to explain how that's even remotely sustainable?

Because I said so, you ball-dunking, Neanderthalish, racist Luddite.

166

You guys realize that they really do think like this, right?

Of course we realize it.  That's what's so freaking horrifying about them.

167

Other countries can't buy up our debt because they don't have the money, because our consumers don't have any cash to buy their shit, because our consumers are out of work and are looking at getting hit between the eyes by more taxes.  Funny how that works. 

Now, once those other countries find markets that are just as productive for them as the U.S. market has been; ah, then we are truly fucked.  That hasn't happened yet, so I guess we have that going for us -- for a short time remaining.

168

did Jimmy Carter have a campaign song. Should we start playing it again?

Obamunist bank bashing and proposed taxes on them are reminiscent of the "Windfall Profits Taxes" proposed by Jimmuh Carturd in the 1970's. In both cases, the companies were demonized by the Commiecrats, and in both cases, the companies were reacting rationally to the regulations *imposed by the government* on them in the first place.

 

169

palin steel (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at February 01, 2010 12:34 PM (VmtE9)

So, he found another blog to shart all over, eh?  I guess that employment thing still ain't working out for him.

170

Katya - are you single and of child-bearing age?

 

171

Katya - are you single and of child-bearing age?

I am married and have three adult children whom I have raised to be mouthy, sarcastic conservatives.

172

Do you have any single daughters of child-bearing age who think like you?

Thx.

 

173

Well, Obama can't blame Bush for this.

Who am I kidding? Of course he will did.

I just heard a sound bite from the jug-eared one in which he laid the blame on "past administrations and congresses, the unfunded Iraq war and the medicare prescription drug program".  I don't see what these have to do with ballooning the budgets of all the other programs like he has, but I'm just one of the bitter clingers, so I must be stupid.

174

It appears that Obama converted the Pell Grant program from discretionary spending to mandatory spending, therefore taking about $20 billion off the table for freezing.

175

Do you have any single daughters of child-bearing age who think like you?

Two, actually.  The oldest has a tongue that cuts like a knife.  Recessive genes from my Grandmother.

176 Yeah, they are socialist, but they aren't nearly as nihilist.

Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

177

Two, actually. The oldest has a tongue that cuts like a knife. Recessive genes from my Grandmother.

Will they be attending the next moron pub crawl?

 

178 181

It appears that Obama converted the Pell Grant program from discretionary spending to mandatory spending, therefore taking about $20 billion off the table for freezing.

Posted by: Ken at February 01, 2010 12:47 PM (4JpPD)

 

So, we will continue to give free money for college even though we are supposed to be cutting programs. Student loans get millions to college every year and the recipient does not even ahve to be credit worthy. Further, pay back is stretched out. I hear people say they do not want to have debt, but why should I pay for their education? I paid for mine. I am sick of the public tit.

179 Obama converted the Pell Grant program from discretionary spending to mandatory spending

Kids need their grievance studies degrees.

180 Katya,

A bit of advice for those of us whose spawn is not yet mouthy, sarcastic and conservative?

How did you deprogram them?

181 163

his first five sentences this morning were "I came into office after .....worse economy since.....previous administrations....passed programs that weren't funded..blah, blah.." 

That'll be on his headstone.

I've got my money on "It was Bush's fault."

182

Will they be attending the next moron pub crawl?

They're generally way out of our area.

A bit of advice for those of us whose spawn is not yet mouthy, sarcastic and conservative?

How did you deprogram them?

We started early.  Watched, listened and talked politics constantly.  We connect politics and the Bible with everything that happens in our lives and the world.  Taught them to disregard what everyone else  (especially the Media) says and think logically.

183 187 Not Katya, but maybe it is a case of never having to deprogram them.  I always found that having to work for goodies helped (my kids always did chores and had to make good grades in school to get shit; when they were of working age they had to do chores and make good grades and work).  Oh, and making them finish what they started also seems to help -- no dropping a sport or whatnot two months into it because you don't like the coach (although that last pair of track coaches was a different matter entirely, so I let the second kid drop track two weeks in).

184 "We simply cannot continue to spend as if deficits don't have consequences, as if waste doesn't matter," Obama said at a White House presentation. "It's time to save what we can, spend what we must and live within our means once again."

He says this as he's announcing a $3.8 trillion budget with a $1.6 trillion deficit.  It's OK because it's Bush's fault.

If the Republicans can't deliver a message that shows what utter nonsense this is, that can't show that the Dems are making things worse, they are as worthless as Bambi.

185 I think we should hand out bales of money to poor people to use as insulation in their attics.  This would be cheaper, and they'd actually get some useful insulation effect from it.

186 Well, at least the Fed's printing press is gonna get a working over for a change. I'm exhausted.

187

Stuart Varney on Megyn's show now. His budget assumes record breaking economic recovery in addition to the increased taxes.

And of course, he blames Bush.

IOW, the deficit is much much larger than published.

188 I think the reason Beck's meme of "their trying to implode the system" has traction is because it actually looks like they are.

189 Ot - sorry, but if you follow this link from Drudge http://www.mcclatchydc.com/310/story/83386.html
there are at least two comments calling for the  bushes to be hung by  the neck until dead.  What if we said that about the Obamas?  What do you think would happen? 

190

We started early.  Watched, listened and talked politics constantly.  We connect politics and the Bible with everything that happens in our lives and the world.  Taught them to disregard what everyone else  (especially the Media) says and think logically.

I am reminded of how my father would yell back at the evening news as a boy in the BC (before cable) days. Not just the national liberal talking heads, but the local news as well.

One event was memorable. A local TV news station was describing the problems in an apartment complex, and they had some welfare slut complaining about "the garbage in the halls". To which my father yelled back, "Yeah, everytime I go dump my garbage in the halls there is more of it!"

(Seriously, like the landlord sneaked in there in the middle of the night and dumped garbage there? And how much do you want to bet that the problem tenants in this apartment complex *could not be evicted* because their rent was covered by the state or county government and it would be a lawsuit for "racial discrimination" if the landlord even tried?)

I always tell my dad how much I learned from him when he yelled back at the liberal TV news.

191 Just wanted you to know that I'm now at Hot Air on the "Noted Deficit Hawk" post to spread my Harvard-educated wisdom all over your Indian and Jewish tonsil-thieving asses!!!

Posted by: palin steel (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at February 01, 2010 12:34 PM (VmtE9)

I see that he's still keeping it real. Real stupid.

192 "their they're trying to implode the system"

Fricking homonyms.

193 I always tell my dad how much I learned from him when he yelled back at the liberal TV news.

You're not the only one that learned this way

194

And of course, he blames Bush.

I am so sick to death of these people.  What a pack of idiots.

195

I always tell my dad how much I learned from him when he yelled back at the liberal TV news.

You're not the only one that learned this way

I yell too.  And, I'm proud to say, so do my kids.

196

199 -- livin' the dream he is...

Curmudgeon, you had one of those too?  Except my dad yelled at everybody (but particularly the Cubs) -- he was an equal opportunity hater.  I can remember him going off on some news special about the poor people living in garbage...maybe it was the same program?

 

197  Oh, one word, begins with "r" and ends with a "t" or an "m"...  maybe a "d" and a "t" word thrown in for good measure.

197 @Katya

So no drug therapy or beatings? Just plain old common sense?

Wow. What are you, a fascist?

I have step kids, and the other side of the coin is a touchy-feely, non-reading, leftist (the emotional kind, not the thinking kind) granola-eating cesspit of TV and...hell...not much else.

It is a challenge, to say the least.

198 Banks, bankers and multinational corporations would face new fees and levies.

Oh boy. Sounds like a recipe for higher unemployment.

199

So no drug therapy or beatings? Just plain old common sense?

Never miss an opportunity to demonstrate to them that the world is run mostly by idiots.

200

"I see that he's still keeping it real. Real stupid."

I had to go over and take a look.  The little fucker actually brought some unintentional funny when he complained about someone calling him Dum Dum.  He said, "Please don't call me that.  This isn't AoS."

Brought a smile to my face.

201 Sounds like a recipe for higher unemployment.

It's almost like that's the goal.

202 I gotta bounce.  Catch up with everyone this evening.

203

Curmudgeon, you had one of those too?  Except my dad yelled at everybody (but particularly the Cubs) -- he was an equal opportunity hater.  I can remember him going off on some news special about the poor people living in garbage...maybe it was the same program?

Did you grow up in the San Francisco / Oakland / San Jose area? The particular story was from local news station KGO Channel 7, as I recall, although it might have been KRON Channel 4.

My father and mother have become softer in their old age--maybe it's just living in Fruity NorCal. Once they took me too task for "being too strident", and I could only reply, "Dad? Didn't you always say that you were told if you voted for Goldwater there would be 150,000 troops in Vietnam, and you did, and there were even more than that?"

204

I always tell my dad how much I learned from him when he yelled back at the liberal TV news.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 01, 2010 01:08 PM (ujg0T)

Back in the 80s some idiot news program said Reagan was to blame for all of the problems of "the poor" and their awful living conditions and they showed some housing projects in terrible shape. I thought, yeah it's Reagan who goes there every night and breaks the elevators and windows, sets fires in the hallways, is selling drugs, is attacking and raping people in the projects.

205 Wow... I'm listening to Robert Gibbs talk circles around himself.

This Admin is a fucking JOKE.

"We can have progress without Republican support"

Meanwhile Capt. "I won" says  "The people who created this mess should NOT BE ALLOWED TO HELP FIX IT"

Douchenutz extraordinaire Obama.

Just fucking WOW

206 Remember that a presidents budget is just a list to Santa, congress sets the budget. Of course this congress wants a lot of the same toys and will 'borrow' from the college fund rather than say that Santa cant bring every toy on the list.

207 yeah it's Reagan who goes there every night and breaks the elevators and windows, sets fires in the hallways, is selling drugs, is attacking and raping people in the projects.

Wow.  How'd he ever have time to invent AIDS?

208

Wow.  How'd he ever have time to invent AIDS?

You may recall those thirlling days of the late 1970's, when Reagan sneaked into the bathhouses and infected dozens of leftist gay men up their rectums with AIDS laden syringe dildos. Just before he decided to run for President. Howard Zinn told me so.

209 I always wondered how people could survive in Zimbabwe.  Soon I'll have first-hand knowledge! 

Stock up on everything - including ammo.

210 Drew:
You're just not familiar with "Obama Math".  That's where 1+1=0.  In economic terms "0" is "fungible".  Meaning that more is less.  We're going to borrow our way to prosperity.

211 - someone want to explain how that's even remotely sustainable?

Even the CBO couldn't do that.

When they assessed current fiscal policy (aka "the alternative fiscal scenario") as compared to Paul Ryan's "Roadmap" plan, here's what they said:

Using CBO’s “textbook growth” model, it is not possible to simulate the effects of the alternative fiscal scenario after 2058 because deficits become so large and unsustainable that the model cannot calculate their effects.

The term "YIKES!!!" springs to mind.

212 I think he did try to say that this budget was projected before he was even sworn in. I think he said it during the Q&A with the Republicans. Again - is there nothing this guy will take blame for??

213 You know what would be funny? If the day of reckoning falls on 12/21/12.

214

Well, Megyn has lost some of my respect. She had Jim Angle on asking about Obama's blaming Bush and saying he "inherited" a 1.7 trillion dollar budget deficit. Angle says "that's true" as far as it goes.

Actually that is unadulterated BS. The deficit was app 100 billion Bush's last year in office.

215 I think it would be funnier of the day of reckoning fell tomorrow by way of a disaster befalling  congress.

216

You know what would be funny? If the day of reckoning falls on 12/21/12.

Hopefully for the Obamunists, the day of reckoning falls on the first Tuesday of November 2010, followed by a coup de grace the first Tuesday of November 2012.

217

211 -- Dude, no, I grew up in the lovely LOL (downstate, real downstate); at least I can say I didn't grow up in Cali, huh? -- have a cousin from Santa Rosa and one in San Fran though...the sane one moved out, the crazy one's still there (try and guess; it'll be fun).

Age did not wither my dad's bile towards the world; three weeks before he died he was threatening to "shoot that goddamned dipshit Steve, and his fucking make believe dog Blue...right in their g-d mouths" (I reminded the kids to keep early morning Nickelodeon off if they didn't want Grandpa having a stroke on us...or shooting the tv).  I won't mention the things he said to Slick and Hillary; good thing he isn't alive for this.

218

at least I can say I didn't grow up in Cali, huh? -- have a cousin from Santa Rosa and one in San Fran though...the sane one moved out, the crazy one's still there (try and guess; it'll be fun).

Once upon a time, this was arguably the best place on Earth to live. It is heartbreaking to watch it slowly continue to turn into excrement.

219

@225

The world needs more people like him.

220

226 The actual place itself is lovely, but knowing what I know of my crazy cousin and cc's equal crazy family; my family could've told you where you were heading many decades ago.  Those folks are nuts, just nuts -- and they all vote.  Of course, considering where I'm from, well, can't throw too many stones can I?

At least if all falls to shit perhaps I can try out that whole "village warlord" fantasy I used to have as a kid...

221 227 -- Oh, if you knew my dad, I don't know if you'd say that.  We're talking about an extremely misanthropic person...with a lot of people killing, chaos causing skills.

222

The actual place itself is lovely, but knowing what I know of my crazy cousin and cc's equal crazy family; my family could've told you where you were heading many decades ago.

This is true, and ironic in many instances.

There have always been dangerous religious cults starting up here, from the USA Branch of Alister Crowleys ODO Temple, to Scientology, to Anton LeVey's Satanism, to the People's Temple of Jim Jones.

But why did they take hold?

The mass settlement of transplanted Easterners and Midwesterners in the 1950's and 1960's lacked extended family roots. To say nothing of Hollywood attracting the rootless. And once the divorce culture took hold in the 1960's and 1970's, their atomized children became prey for leftist kookiness.

Ironically, the Gay Leftist movement here started as a result of WW2, then Korea, then Vietnam, as dishonorably discharged gay servicemen were shipped back to Hunter's Point shipyard (later flown back to SFO) and dumped off there. Disgraced and more often than not unable to return home, they settled in then cheap San Francisco, which was rapidly being vacated by families seeking larger yards in the Peninsula and East Bay burbs. SF was a big enough town to fade into the wood work, but also a small enough town for a critical mass to take over, as they had by the 1970's.

 

223 230  Yeah, just from my family's experience I'd say that's it -- that's the only part of the family that could be certifiable in the wacky department, and they moved out there during the Depression.  Now, they didn't start out crazy, just desperate, but slowly over time teh crazy set in and any of their self-preservation, commonsense got replaced.  You can have them though, because we don't want them back (have enough troubles without the crystal power, algae eating, reiki loony shit; to say nothing of the entitlement whinging).  If things crash and burn I wouldn't expect them to survive it -- unless a higher power is looking out for them (which may be the case).

224

231 - True that. The rootlessness may have begun even before the post WW2 boom (although I think its impact really hit in the late 1960's).

I liked the HBO TV show "Carnivale" for its exploration of that particular strain of desperation in 1930's California.

 

225

WASHINGTON – The Obama administration is predicting little improvement in the nation's unemployment rate by the end of the year.

Although President Barack Obama says the multitrillion-dollar spending plan released Monday is designed to get Americans back to work, the administration forecasts 9.8 percent unemployment at the end of this year. That would be down only slightly from the current rate of 10 percent.

Didn't they predict that unemployment would top out at 8% last year? And how about all of those billons of jobs that Barry has created or saved?

226 Rep. James Clyburn explains it all:

"We're not going to save our way out of this recession," the majority whip added. "We've got to spend our way out of this recession, and I think most economists know that."

227

Well, Obama can't blame Bush for this.

Who am I kidding? Of course he will.

According to Cavuto it took Captain Bullshit 18 seconds into today's budget speech to blame Bush.  The simpering jerk's a lying, whining, Marxist asshole and that's Bush's fault too.

228 Damn sockpuppet.

229

Hi Drew, hate to be picky my friend, know you suck at math and everything :-) But, the highlighted text states 'trillions' , your text proposes 'billions'. Slight difference in the numbers, say a 1000% or so :-)

That being, all the extra taxes on business and the wealthy, etc.. who pays for that.. We Do.  I have an older post on the subject under the same name. 

This is a tax increase on the middle and lower classes.

230 CNN reported that there were 4 groups which are under attack by Obama and his proposed budget. The "enemies" of Obama?

1) the wealthy. They're going to get beat up/penalized by having to pay higher taxes.
2) financial institutions. That because Obama despises Capitalists. So, he'll beat up on Bankers and those "fat cats" -- the very ones who can pull the country out of the recession.\
3) oil and gas industry. Obama despises American corporations in the oil and gas industry. (He prefers to have the Saudis enriched.) Meanwhile Obama endorses any "energy" industry (wind, solar and bio fuels) which don't make any money but require a deep, deep pocket in terms of government bailouts/financing...(ie these so-called "clean" energy sources do not make any profits, they're simply black holes).
4) NASA. Obama wants to make sure that any American scientific space research, or American, cutting-edge, technological advantage is scuttled -- immediately. That means shelving the Ares rocket (after billions of dollars already invested). and, then, what does Obama promote? what's his special interest? Why, the International Space Station, of course. (maybe that's cause it doesn't have that embarrassing American flag on it). Yeah. He'll fund the International Space Station, guarantee it till 2020, while making sure no American space projects are funded. Then, to keep the International Space Station operational, Obama will be paying the Russians million and millions of U.S. dollars to ferry astronauts up to the International Space Station. (Along, of course, with the billions in aid monies to his other "friends" - Pakistanis and Afghanis and Egyptians, etc., etc.)

Thus Obama demonstrates his true love for America, along with his "patriotism".