April 14, 2010
— Gabriel Malor President Obama's recent pronouncements on the gays-in-the-military policy put the Department of Justice in a tight spot. DOJ is defending Don't Ask, Don't Tell in the courts right now, in keeping with its long tradition of defending all laws so long as a reasonable argument can be made as to their constitutionality, regardless of who is in the White House.
Log Cabin Republicans are the plaintiffs in one of those cases and have forced DOJ to explicitly reject Obama's statements. DOJ had resisted making a fast and sure statement, and continues to object since its attempt to get an interlocutory appeal failed, but finally had to comply when the judge ordered them to make a "yes or no" answer.
Here is DOJ's response (PDF). It's short, but I've pulled out the most relevant bits:
The Court's Order has placed Defendants in an untenable position. Counsel in this litigation represents the United States. However, the Executive and Legislative Branches have yet to express a unified position on the subject matter of Plaintiff's RFAs. For these reasons, it is Defendant's position that providing a single-word, unqualified answer in response would be inaccurate, incomplete, and inconsistent with the mandatory provisions of Rule 36(a)(4).The President of the United States, who formulates the policy of the Executive Branch, has stated, including in his State of the Union Address on January 27, 2010, that 10 U.S.C. § 654, the statute enacting "Don’t Ask Don’t Tell" ("DADT"), should be repealed. The President has further said that DADT does not contribute to, and indeed weakens our national security, and he has stated that "[w]e cannot afford to cut from our ranks people with the critical skills we need to fight any more than we can afford – for our military’s integrity – to force those willing to do so into careers encumbered and compromised by having to live a lie."
The Court's order does not permit the United States to provide an answer that, in good faith, "specif[ies] the part admitted and qualif[ies] or den[ies] the rest," Fed. R. Civ. Proc. 36(a)(4), in view of the disagreement bewteen the Executive Branch's view as articulated in 2010 and Congress' view as articulated in its 1993 enactment of [DADT].
Given that disagreement, the United States has no choice but to deny, for the purposes of this litigation, the requests for admission noted below, while recognizing that those denials do not reflect the positions articulated by the President.
3. Admit that DADT does not contribute to our national security.
Response: Deny.
4. Admit that DADT weakens our national security.
Response: Deny.
5. Admit that discharging members pursuant to DADT weakens our national security.
Response: Deny.
In short, DOJ just called Obama a liar.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at
09:36 AM
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"In short, DOJ just called Obama a liar."
Sounds like they fried a few logic circuits doing it, too.
Say, isn't this Holder's department? So Eric Holder hates gays, huh? How's that feel, self-righteous lefties? I think I smell some more logic circuits frying.
Posted by: Randy at April 14, 2010 09:43 AM (zQKSr)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Chairman of the Nonpartisan Anti-Chinese League at April 14, 2010 09:46 AM (xGIqT)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Chairman of the Nonpartisan Anti-Chinese League at April 14, 2010 09:54 AM (xGIqT)
Posted by: joncelli at April 14, 2010 09:54 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Tommy V at April 14, 2010 10:03 AM (ik7C6)
I would venture that he believes those statements.
They called him an igorant fool, not a liar.
Posted by: Veeshir at April 14, 2010 10:07 AM (8Mlla)
Those aren't statements of fact, they're opinions and the bar for calling opinions "lies" is much higher than for statements of fact.
Posted by: Veeshir at April 14, 2010 10:09 AM (8Mlla)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Chairman of the Nonpartisan Anti-Chinese League at April 14, 2010 10:10 AM (xGIqT)
Posted by: Cuffy Meigs at April 14, 2010 10:11 AM (k5CvA)
Posted by: Vic at April 14, 2010 10:17 AM (QrA9E)
Holder doesn't get a pass because he's black?
Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 14, 2010 10:18 AM (mR7mk)
Posted by: joncelli at April 14, 2010 10:21 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: dfbaskwill at April 14, 2010 10:25 AM (usjNq)
Yeah, and they knocked windows out of Mormon churches, not black churches. Curious how the lefty mind works is.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 14, 2010 10:31 AM (mR7mk)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Chairman of the Nonpartisan Anti-Chinese League at April 14, 2010 10:36 AM (xGIqT)
Blacks are FAR more homophobic than whites. See Prop. 8 in CA.
Nitpicking here: Voting that same sex marriage is not a marriage, does not make one a "homophobe". That word is incorrectly used 99.9% of the time, probably because it was pretty much made up by the homsexual lobby.
Posted by: Bill R. at April 14, 2010 10:41 AM (EhlQq)
Posted by: thebronze at April 14, 2010 12:05 PM (cndK+)
Posted by: joncelli at April 14, 2010 02:21 PM (RD7QR)
Yeah, homophobic, that's it. And anyone that didn't support open borders immigration policy is xenophobic too, and obviously a racist. Can we call any homosexual supporters of redefining marriage heterophobic too?
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 14, 2010 12:26 PM (F09Uo)
No, they don't HAVE to: they just do so as a (generally very appropriate) matter of longstanding DOJ policy.
Posted by: Dave J. at April 14, 2010 04:09 PM (DCQ0q)
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In short, DOJ just called Obama a liar.
Bwahahahaha! Ol' Holder's gonna get an earful!
Posted by: Gray Wolf at April 14, 2010 09:43 AM (srBjT)