So what you're saying is -- I need to start drinking before noon....

hey charles, i was just at ace of spades, what idiots, like obamacare won't pass! at least we know what side of history we were on.

oh, just got my calender, you are a pro with the camera!!!

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at March 20, 2010 07:59 PM (J46Fi)

I second that confusion!

20  oops, this isn't lgf, sorry, forget all that

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Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 20, 2010 07:54 PM (zLhuq)

The Senate bill is not amended per se by the reconciliation bill.  Which means that if the House passes the Senate bill, the Senate and the President are completely free to ignore the reconciliation bill and declare the unamended Senate bill the law of the land.  And that prospect is what House Democrats have to focus on: if the only way a House Dem can live with the Senate bill is if the changes in the reconciliation bill are enacted, then there's no way that Member can vote for the bill... unless they're delusional, stupid, or lying to themselves about what they can live with.

Posted by: ErikW at March 20, 2010 08:00 PM (8GHg4)

What the hell?

Nancy mentions deficit reduction: DRINK!

Anyone mentions Jobs! Jobs! Jobs!: DRINK!

Louise Slaughter mentions some other disgusting sob story: DRINK!

The phrase "E-mails have been pouring in": DRINK!

I'd do better, but I'm already drinking. . . .

19  a serious question to your post

if any congress critter is doing a good job and voting for the will of the people he represents, why vote him out? thats and R or D

there actually are blue dog democrats (we used to have one once but he ran against a incubant senator and the machine came out swinging)..his name was case

exactly right stuiec!  and the Senate won't have time to f*ck with the House "amendments" "fixes" or whatever you want to call them because they are so behind in their work.  they really are.

so the House members think they can blame the SEnate?  fine.  let's get rid of all the Dem Senators, too.  hey, sounds good to me.

I'd do better, but I'm already drinking. . . .

Me too. My brain's on autopilot though. I got nothing.

i love this vote in the sense of the house is being told to trust harry reid and the senate and they might buy it!!

thats like a crack whore giving a methhead 100 bucks to watch cause he "wont spend it"

As soon as they pass the senate bill Obama can sign it. The amendments have to go to the senate and they have to either pass them or go to conference to change them into something the senate can vote for and then the house has to revote the changes.

The house members are taking a HUGE chance. The senate is not going to approve/pass the changes in the amendments. They might accept a few to keep the house happy but they don't have to and they have to have 60 votes not 51 to do it.

Essentially if the house likes the senate bill they should pass it but if they think that the senate is going to approve of their changes they are CRAZY. They aren't going to get shit.

What has happened here is that the senate wouldn't/couldn't pass the house bill so Obama MADE the house pass the senate bill that they hated by making deadlines and bribes and threats. They won't ever get the bribes because they have to go through the appropriations committee in the senate. The only thing they will get is the promised punishment if they embarass the ONE.

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19  a serious question to your post

They only become "Blue Dog" democrats when the heat is turned up. Most of the time they just go along with the liberal agenda.

vic, i thought the Byrd rule applied to reconciliation stuff that had passed one house & was going over to the other house to be "reconciled".  so far, the House hasn't passed anything to be reconciled.  once they pass those amendments tomorrow, those will go over to the SEnate & that is where "reconciliation" & the Byrd rule come into play.

but i'm not sure.  you know, we're learning alot of stuff.

Now, if they decide to use reconciliation in the senate to pass the house changes they only need 51 votes BUT they have to be fiscal, deficit reducing, and applicable. If not then they have to go through the normal senate process and are subjectible to the filibuster.

Hatch was saying that the senate isn't going to pass their shit. The Oklahoma senator said that if they try to put bribes through then the senate will cut them out with a scaple.

The House is just passing the senate bill with no benefits to themselves. They are going to OWN the cornhusker kickback, the Louisana Purchase, etc etc just as much as the senate.

45  ding ding, dagny speaks the truth like rush..cut, jib, news (you know), toobad most americans, hell, most congressmen haven't figured it out

47 if i could think of a real blue dog i could easily crush your point but i can't...well, there's scott brown

Any bets that some R's go off the rez?

Hell no.

Once the house passes the senate bill the senate has no reason to use reconciliation---it doesn't benefit them in any way. They will probably just hose over the house.

47 if i could think of a real blue dog i could easily crush your point but i can't...well, there's scott brown

???

Jack Murtha was considered a blue dog.

no he wasn't, he was a fiscal liberal and a corrupt treasonous asshole.  even the maggots eating his foul corpse (see that obama...i know the word unlike you) have a bad taste in their mouth

vic:  if we know the SEnate will dither with the "fixes" once it goes over to them, you damn well that the Congressmen know it too.  they think they are going to blame the Senate.

but once they vote YES, they are stuck.

tc, he is the definition of a blue dog democrat, strong conservative values but squishy on social values

he just happens to be an "r"

i have basically the same veiws as him but i am still with the jackass party

truthfully, some Senators are concerned about Congressman from their own state because a big outpouring of Dem hate might affect their re-election chances, either this year or in future years.  but other than that, the Senate is laughing its ass off.  'cause they ain't ever gonna vote on any of that reconciliation stuff.

really, yall, they are way behind in taking up all the House stuff.  they are too busy for reconciliation.

and the congressmen have to know this.  they are falling on their swords for Bambi.  really stupid.

Jebus, now that we know about Hillbuzz's disgruntled dems, we know how they operate:

LetÂ’s use Louise Slaughter as a case study, and see how well we can investigate who her main political funding sources are.

All of this information is publicly available, but it does not turn up automatically in casual searches.  So, the people funding the Left can indeed be identified, but it takes legwork and determination the regular person doesnÂ’t usually possess.  ALL of this data can be found — for FREE — just using your computer if you are inclined to spend the time looking for it.

These boyz are out for blood and they know how to play.

exactly right stuiec!  and the Senate won't have time to f*ck with the House "amendments" "fixes" or whatever you want to call them because they are so behind in their work.  they really are.

so the House members think they can blame the SEnate?  fine.  let's get rid of all the Dem Senators, too.  hey, sounds good to me.

Posted by: kelley in virginia at March 20, 2010 08:06 PM (Oan2w)

Besides not having time to deal with it, the Senate won't have any motivation to deal with it either.  They'll have their health care bill, the one they themselves passed, so why bother amending it?  (Yeah, yeah, they'll have those embarrassing Cornhusker Kickback and Louisiana Purchase and Gator-Aid deals to explain away, but those would be the only things they'd consider changing -- and those aren't worth the effort.)

And the cool thing is that every single Democrat incumbent in the Senate has his or her fingerprints all over this -- they ALL voted for those embarrassing special deals and weird taxes and the health care purchase mandate.

Posted by: Tami at March 20, 2010 08:18 PM (VuLos)

Well, that's just great.

nye switched to yes?  damn, does he want to lose?  he is facing stiff competition & although he was a previous NO & he voted against cap 'n trade (therefore he was still viewed as sort of OK), this is gonna send him out of here!

along with Perriello, both of these guys (NYE & Perriello) are facing competition managed by same guy who created Swift Boats.

WhatÂ’s Next

The House first needs to pass the Senate bill and the reconciliation changes. The Senate bill would become law as soon as Obama signs it. The Senate would have to pass the reconciliation bill as well before it can become law.

Republicans are vowing to use every procedural tactic they can to block the reconciliation bill and they may challenge its provisions. If the Senate parliamentarian rules with Republicans on a challenge, Democrats might have to vote on a changed bill, which would kick it back to the House again.

The No. 2 Senate Democrat, Dick Durbin of Illinois, yesterday said the Senate aims to finish its work by March 26. ThatÂ’s the day lawmakers are scheduled to leave for a two-week recess.

So there's two possibilities here:

1. The average member of the "Deemocratic" party caucus actually thinks you can amend a law that hasn't become a law yet; OR

2. The average member of the Deemocratic party caucus thinks that by voting against certain positions (the Cornhusker kickback and all associates/related bribes, as well as the overall crappy bill itself) before they vote for them will somehow innoculate themselves. Hey maybe they can say something like "well, I actually voted against that provision before I voted for it". That kind of justification couldn't possibly blow up in their face, right?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at March 20, 2010 08:21 PM (J46Fi)

By doing exactly NOTHING.  If Pelosi wins tomorrow, she sends two bills out of the House: the unamended Senate bill from Christmas to President Obama, and the reconciliation bill to the Senate.  If the Senate simply tosses the reconciliation bill in the trash, Obama is still free to sign the Senate health care bill into law.  Given that all 59 incumbent Democrats voted for it just last December, do you think they will be at all upset about getting that exact same bill signed into law?

The amazing thing is that Pelosi is letting herself be completely rolled by the Senate, but no so amazing when you consider that she's desperate for any first step toward socialized medicine.

Tonight before going to bed:

Knees, floor, hands clasped - some assembly required

Posted by: FUBAR at March 20, 2010 08:17 PM (1fanL)

That's what those kansas assholes get for giving us kathleen sebielus.

The problem I see her procedurally is that I don't understand how they think they can amend a bill. You can amend a law (that's why we have constitutional amendments, the consitutional is a law or laws--amend means to fix by adding). You can't amend a bill because it isn't a law until it is passed and signed.

To do this properly, they should pass the senate bill, let dickhead sign it, then pass amendments and send them to the senate.

I'm really surprised that these congressmen (except for some like McKinney and that impeached judge) think that they can pass shit that the senate is going to pay any attention to.

Senators look at congressmen like horses look at goats.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at March 20, 2010 08:30 PM (J46Fi)"

It's going to go up and down.  Just waiting for the financial guys to discuss it.

Posted by: Conservative dude at March 20, 2010 08:26 PM (Jz1Ta)

Pray

i   would think Nye voting YES would   hurt him.  I bet Chris LaCivita (of Swift Boat fame), running an Republican campaign against him would be almost gleeful.  LaCivita is also running Robert Hurt's campaign (who is running against Perriello).

As a Virginian, I apologize to my country.  but we will defeat these dems.

Yeah but they are passing the amendment before the bill. They are trying to get them to think or us to think that the amendment matters.

Harry is scewing Nancy.

Picture that

Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at March 20, 2010 08:37 PM (5rFsg)

The senate bill. The senate bill is the only bill that matters right now.

nancy knows harry isn't going to do squat.  she may be a bitch, but she's been around the house/senate block before.  the "amendment" package is for show.  actually, that's good because there was alot of pork in it for bribes.

oh, now I see!  when we accuse Dem Congressman of voting yes for a bribe, he can say, "nope, no bribe money/position/law ever passed".

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2010 08:34 PM (UOM4

This bill is a disaster for dems politically and for Americans economically. As soon as the bill is signed insurance companies have to insure people with pre existing conditions. That was supposed to be offset for companies from all the new insureds they will get.

Problem is that the additional people being insured won't happen until 2014. All of our insurance will skyrocket as soon as it is signed.

One way to play it though may be to cancel your insurance and buy it back if you get sick because the mandates don't kick in until 2014 either.

Either way it's going to be Kaos.

From NRO:

Senior Dem staffer says abortion/executive order deliberations will take place tonight at the White House.

Stupak won't be there... Dem staffer says "this still isn't nailed down"

Posted by: Gerry at March 20, 2010 08:32 PM (Xh4uC)

--Likey

20 oops, this isn't lgf, sorry, forget all that

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Posted by: navycopjoe at March 20, 2010 08:00 PM (gg4j2)

Yeah, you're a real laugh riot.

and the blue dogs know they are going to lose their seats.  Nancy did promise some of them big campaign bucks.  Our congressman, Perriello 5th CD,VA, is getting SEIU Organizing for America down here to help him out (but he was promised that months ago--remember that DNC chair is former VA governor).

but i don't know why so many of them are willingly walking the plank.

kemp, the congressman just have to know that the Senate will do absolutely squat with their fixes.  they must think the fixes are cover.

but the congressmen also have to know that they are going to lose in November.  and that said, why are they doing this?

I just want it to be over ... so we know what to prepare for.  Need to stock up on hangover remedies - I think I will need to be drunk all day tomorrow to survive.

I think I'll try Lucozade - all my English alcoholic friends swear by it.

ItÂ’s Not a Health Bill   [Alan Reynolds]

The “reconciliation bill” is not a health bill but an anti-health bill. It relies heavily on price controls, taxes, and fines to punish doctors, hospitals, and innovative companies that produce prescription drugs and medical devices. If we treated farmers, food companies, and grocery stores the way Congress threatens to treat the health industries, would anybody expect food to become better or cheaper?

Furthermore, the 3.8 percent tax on both labor and investment income is not a “Medicare tax”: It’s a surtax on income that goes into the slush fund, not the Medicare trust.

And the bill could not possibly cost “only” $940 billion, unless it contained a sunset provision repealing the law after 2019.

In fact, new spending is negligible for four years. At that point the government would start luring 16 million more people into MedicaidÂ’s leaky gravy train, and start handing out subsidies to families earning up to $88,000. Spending then jumps from $54 billion in 2014 to $216 billion in 2019. ThatÂ’s just the beginning.

To be unduly optimistic (more so than the CBO), assume that the new entitlement schemes increased by only 7 percent a year. At that rate spending would double every ten years — to $432 billion a year in 2029,  $864 billion a year in 2039, and more than $1.72 trillion in 2049.

Can anyone imagine that the new taxes and fines could possibly grow by 7 percent a year? On the contrary, most of the claimed revenues are either a timing fraud (treating $70 billion for long-term-care premiums as newly found treasure) or self-defeating. The hypothetical tax on Cadillac plans (suspiciously postponed until 201 , for example, is designed to discourage employers from offering such plans and employees from wanting them — that is, it’s designed to yield less and less over time.

Moreover, the accumulating penalties on reporting joint incomes above $250,000 — a 39.6 percent tax, a 3.8 percent income surtax, a 0.9 percent Medicare surtax, and rapid phasing-out of deductions and exemptions — would greatly discourage any activity that would push income above $250,000. Most obviously, no sensible family whose income is normally below that pain threshold would be so foolish as to sell enough assets to let capital gains push them over the line.

If even half of the punitive tax plans are enacted, I plan to launch a “249 Club” whose members pledge never again to report more than $249,000.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2010 08:34 PM (UOM4

--Those House Dems have no idea how unpopular this shit sammich is.  I guess one way to make money if this passes is to be against 0bama in the NCAAs!

Thanks jasem, you dickhead

(jason's eviul twin?)

The problem I see her procedurally is that I don't understand how they think they can amend a bill. You can amend a law (that's why we have constitutional amendments, the consitutional is a law or laws--amend means to fix by adding). You can't amend a bill because it isn't a law until it is passed and signed.

Posted by: dagny at March 20, 2010 08:31 PM (Qpll4)

OK, time for clarification.

You can amend a law by passing another law.

You can amend a bill by introducing an amendment in your own house of Congress (i.e., the House of Representatives or Senate) and getting a majority of your peers to vote for it.  The amendment becomes part of the bill -- but the bill does not become law at that point.

If one house passes a bill and the other house amends it during debate (e.g., if the Senate passes a health care bill and the House amends it), then the House version of the bill has to go back to the Senate for another debate and vote.  The conference committee process is designed to make that back-and-forth quicker by letting selected members of both houses convene to come up with a mutually acceptable compromise, which then has to be voted on -- without further amendment -- by both houses in order to be eligible for the President's signature.

Because Scott Brown made a Republican filibuster harder to break in the Senate, Pelosi is desperate for a way to commit the Senate to changing its own health care plan while bypassing any Senate procedure that can be filibustered.  Thus the reconciliation dodge, using a procedure meant only for budget items and specifically to reduce the deficit: reconciliation isn't subject to the filibuster rule.  But it only applies to laws already passed, and thus Pelosi cannot offer any guarantee that once the House passes the Senate bill to make it eligible for reconciliation, the Senate will pass any further law (reconciliation or otherwise) to change its own health care plan.

but i don't know why so many of them are willingly walking the plank.

Considering the thuggery of this administration, losing their seats may the least of their worries, if you catch my drift.

Posted by: bob at March 20, 2010 08:50 PM (u6p6X)

--Dude, you're hardly telling us anything we don;t know already.

Thanks again jasem for fucking up the font. . . .

Posted by: bob at March 20, 2010 08:50 PM (u6p6X)

Thank you Obi Wan Bob, you're our only hope!

Posted by: Dr. Spank at March 20, 2010 08:49 PM (I1/U/)

Joo hater.

Yeah, you're a real laugh riot.

Posted by: Herr Blücher at March 20, 2010 08:41 PM (ANl9E)

Say hi to your wife for us, Mein Herr.

Posted by: nickless at March 20, 2010 08:52 PM (MMC8r)

--Exactly.  It's desperation. All-in.  He has been FAIL at everything else, but will register this as a success just because it's huge and transformative --and Dems don;t care whether the transformation is for the better or worse.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at March 20, 2010 08:45 PM (0fzsA)

That won't help. You'll also have to be in good standing with the approved government health plan(s) and placidly obeying all of Papa Doc Obama's new rules. Otherwise, if you earn more than three times "poverty" income (I thinks that's roughly $60K for a family) the IRS is going to come after your sweet self, and slap you upside the head with penalties.

And do you really think the current proposed tax increases will be the end? When we have a bunch of new illegal aliens Democrats added to the plans, why Congress will have to steal more money from us, just to stave off total economic collapse.

Add to that whatever the President-for-Life wants to spend to make Iran, Indonesia, Kenya and other beloved friends of America into little socialist paradises, and the cost will be beyond staggering.

Osama Obama's ego will soon make it impossible for the government printing presses to keep up with the demand for currency worthless paper.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2010 08:54 PM (UOM4

+1

I'm not there yet, but may gun for it.

I'm in the hope for the best-prepare for the worst mentality.

I spent a good part of the past few days in bars and places were this bill should be on no one's radar. Rather everyone is talking about it--and not kindly. And I live in libtard nation so that's a good sign. Young peole I've talked to (thanks 52%!!) don't understand the mandate and why it's not even effective for anothoer four years. Baby steps with them. No need to try to explain the deficit. I was just happy to see they knew this much.

I honestly think we could take back the House if every single one of our candidates campaigned on one single platform: repeal. Repeal the parts that are unconstitutional via the judiciary and the parts unpopular back through the House and Senate chambers. True that sounds easier said than done, but bit by bit I think it can be done.

The media has spent the past few week regurgitating the Dem talking points that we'll love! the bill once we see how good it is for us. Are they in for a wake up call. Most likely one they've never seen.

In short, regardless of tomorrow's vote, we will survive.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2010 08:54 PM (UOM4

Know what the southern woman's mating call is?  Ah am soooooo drunk!

Posted by: bob at March 20, 2010 08:50 PM (u6p6X)

I think we need update the callender for tomorrow:

6:15 p.m.: If the reconciliation bill passes, the House will immediately be stormed by unruly crowds who proceed to give all YES voting members swirlies in the public toilets, followed by ceremonial tossings into the Potomac.

Posted by: AD at March 20, 2010 08:58 PM (vMq5s)

Eggsellent point.  Choke on it bob.

Hey, has everyone else's slash gotten changed?

Maybe mine was just because I turned my wireless off while I was on the road last weekend. . . .

You think Rahm's leaving dead fish in their beds tonight?

After all the fish markets in DC had to close early for lack of inventory.......yes.

Posted by: AD at March 20, 2010 08:58 PM (vMq5s)

"Current Firedoglake Whip Count: 204 yes, 206 no, leaning no 10, undecided 10."

This points to a win for us.

"Current Hill Whip Count: 215 oppose, 197 yes, 20 undecided"

This also points to a win for us.

"The NRCC's Code Red whip count has it knotted at 211 yes vs. 211 no with 9 undecided."

Tie Ball Game.

Fox News  218-213- Thiis to me is an outlier.

Keep Fighting.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at March 20, 2010 09:02 PM (J46Fi)

--I think it was only conjured up Thursday or Wednesday, no?  Hard to buy an inexpensivve flight with that tight window, and hard to get time off work at the 11th hour if you want to drive.  Sometimes you gotta give support from afar.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2010 08:54 PM (UOM4

Know what the southern woman's mating call is?  Ah am soooooo drunk!

Posted by: FUBAR at March 20, 2010 08:58 PM (1fanL)

heck. this has probably been one of the worst 2 weeks of my life. who can mate at a time like this.

think about the possible children we'd drag into this mess.

Posted by: bob at March 20, 2010 08:50 PM (u6p6X)

Hardly likely.  Pelosi will not release any of her spare votes yet, not until the vote on the House floor opens and she gets a real count of how many Yeses she can bank.  Anyone voting NO solely because of a pass from Pelosi will have to vote Yes first and then will be given permission to go back and change his vote before the vote closes.

Posted by: phoenixrisen at March 20, 2010 08:59 PM (74DQm)

Seriously?

Know what the southern woman's mating call is?  Ah am soooooo drunk!

Posted by: FUBAR at March 20, 2010 08:58 PM (1fanL)

Hmm. I always thought it was "Git in the truck, bitch."

think about the possible children we'd drag into this mess.

Posted by: willow at March 20, 2010 09:06 PM (7FgWm)

No, no - the more kids you have, the more likely you'll get the health care subsidy under ObamaCare.  And as Pasqualino Seven Beauties said at the end of the movie, "We have to have lots of kids.  Pretty soon people will be killing each other for an apple.  We have to outnumber them."

Posted by: Slappy at March 20, 2010 09:06 PM (ljvjO)

I don't believe any of that crud anymore after they said the "kill em thing" happened at a Palin rally, a lie ss no-one else heard it, pure lieing crap.

also the man with the "assulat weapon"  contessa brewer lied about , no correction ever,

we know it's all crap to incite more anger from us.

He'd be distancing himself  from the whole thing if it was going down.

Then why did he go for the Chicago Olympics and the Copenhagen mess?  Besides he's obviously too arrogant to believe he could fail ... even though it's not about him.

I'm just physched about my raise, my moonbat boss will save $3,000 per employee per the President - and I'm sure he'll be passing that along to the rabble who work for him  (/sarc)

--I think it was only conjured up Thursday or Wednesday, no?  Hard to buy an inexpensive flight with that tight window, and hard to get time off work at the 11th hour if you want to drive.  Sometimes you gotta give support from afar.

(1) Exactly.

(2) It doesn't feel like enough, though.

Hmm. I always thought it was "Git in the truck, bitch."

Posted by: di butler, superflybitch at March 20, 2010 09:09 PM (S3xX1)

That's the Southern MAN's mating call.

No, no - the more kids you have, the more likely you'll get the health care subsidy under ObamaCare.

I'm confused, I thought we needed federally funded abortions  (and death panels) to cut down on the number of human beings born  (or who live too long) ... fewer people, fewer healthcare costs?

Posted by: bob at March 20, 2010 08:50 PM

Problem with this is the fact that all the weaker willed, smaller minded than normal dems that Pelosi has dealed out the Pass cards to in the Past AREN'T getting them this time- Boccieri, that witch from Colorado, etc.

They need all the votes they can get.

Plus, I am convinced they already have the final vote ringer in place- a safe seat so no one has to walk down the aisle to the catcalls of "Buh- Bye!" like Marjolie Mahjevens-wht the hell ever-sky did after casting the deciding vote for Clinton's tax package in 1992-

it is Lynch. He is a safe seat, he is a union guy, and a part of the leadership team- and he seems to be catching NO heat for his supposed "ooposition" based on the cadillac tax.

They have their ducks in a row- yes. but they DO NOT have the votes...YET.

KEEP UP THE PRESSURE. we kill it here, they do not get this thru before Easter break, I do not see how they can at all this session- it will be dead.

Unless, of course, Obama says "fuck it" and signs it into law by executive order at the Easter Egg Roll (I got $20 on that one.....)

Posted by: Twinks

Or extremely unprincipled liars also known as Democrats.

Posted by: bob at March 20, 2010 09:07 PM (u6p6X)

---

Well he left Copenhagen when he thought he had the Olympics in the bag....

You know what Bob, fuck off.

I am sick of your stupid shit on here. Why not go elsewhere, like your moms basement, where you are welcome.

What kind of a shit stained goat fucking bastard spends his saturday night gloating about the destruction of our country?

I have worked my fingers to the bone this week, trying to stand between what I believe is socialism and my children. People like you, the something for nothing crowd, make me sick. You suck off of and drain what other people EARN.

What are you going to do when people like me, a small business owner, just shut it down? You need your ass kicked and trust me, I am just the chick that could do it!

Posted by: reginaldL at March 20, 2010 09:16 PM (k6Tcc)

Or it was released before he was paid his 30 pieces of silver?

 Now the excuses come for the crappy turnout for the tea party rally.  You are better off not bothering than to have a paltry showing that looks bad on TV and in pictures.

Ha, ha, ha - you're drunk right?   How about the pathetic turn our for the "coffee parties" that were so hyped in the press.  I saw the photos of of the last mintute rally held today and was surprised at how many people were there.  There's always tomorrow too.

Posted by: beerologist at March 20, 2010 09:15 PM (tgXx6)

--I wanna know too.

I honestly think we could take back the House if every single one of our candidates campaigned on one single platform: repeal. Repeal the parts that are unconstitutional via the judiciary and the parts unpopular back through the House and Senate chambers. True that sounds easier said than done, but bit by bit I think it can be done.

We already have the House.  It's the Senate that's in play.  Governors and statehouses could be swept, too.

Posted by: bob at March 20, 2010 09:16 PM (u6p6X)

--The pics on michellemalkin.com say otherwise, concern troll.

Umm, The Won went to Copenhagen to claim the Olympics for Chicago, and went home empty handed.

But if it does pass, the November campaign starts immediately.  Use this blog and others to get information out on the republican house & senate candidates, who they are and how to support them.  Get out indivdually and work phone banks and walk precincts delivering literature.  We will have to do for free what Seiu pays its thugs to do (no not kneecap people) - we will need to get out the vote and vote these traitors out. 

The Founding Fathers fought a war of independence, when only about 30% of the colonists wanted independence.  The Founding Fathers fought and won.  WE CAN WIN if we fight these treasonous cowards.  Around 60% of Americans right now don't want this healthcare bill shoved down our throats.  Just wait till taxes go up immediately.  We can win in November and we will if we stay focused.

Posted by: AD at March 20, 2010 09:19 PM (vMq5s)

Maybe he's a graduate from one of Axelrod's new Troll Academy Courses they set up?

Yes.  But the subsidies are like WIC and other welfare--more kids = more $$

Heather you're right!  Reminds me of my neigbhor's daughter that I posed on beofre ... on MassHealth (medicaid) and getting a free car seat and free breast pump for her second illegitimate child.  Lives with the father of this bastard child but the "gubmint" doesn't know so she gets Section 8 free rent, food stamps, WIC, works under the table so doesn't pay income taxes and must get earned income credit, etc.  She's totally excited about Obamacare because now everyone can share in her good fortune.

210 Count de Monet@198  Honey, we'll have 'em all.  Plus, karaoke on Friday nights! 

Mizz Jane, if you will block MSNBC/CNN/ABC/CBS/NBC/PBS and Mahr/Behar/O'Donnell (both) it would save many big screens from lead and/or Valu-Rite projectiles. 

Does anybody have anything upbeat?

I'm watching Screamers: The Hunting.  A guy walking through a cave just got "radioactive acid" on his hand.  It was dripping from the ceiling.

Radioactive acid.  Because when you're doing a sequel, acid is not enough.

Well, that's my pick-me-up.

It's odd, Fox is like the only whip count that has us in trouble. The rest look OK for us, or are neck and neck. It seems like they are being very aggressive with putting people who are undecided or leaning in a firm position in their tally.

The way I see it, it will be close either way probly 4 votes give or take either side so it really isnt hard for anyone to be close in the end in their predictions.

The FDL one, and The Hill both look pretty positive for us, but then you turn on the TV and they act like its a done deal. Just gotta hope I guess!

I have made calls, emailed, and tried to comment around on various blogs. We did all we could, so now we just gotta hope it works out for us. Win or Lose, we gotta get ready to fight the next power grab.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2010 09:22 PM (UOM4

--I'll bring some Fort Garry stuff!

Posted by: reginaldL at March 20, 2010 09:27 PM (k6Tcc)"

this one certainly is

"think it's clear Pelosi has the votes, and probably a few more than 216. "

I thought so yesterday, but have my doubts today- to many of the freshmen are not getting their passes- Pelosi is throwing them all on into the pit.

They still cannot get firm commitments to push them over the top. This is turning into a suicide run, I think they may be falling short. We only need a couple more, they need anywhere from 5-12. 

Sauropod is another axelrod payroller.

Just wait until the taxes start and docs start retiring rather than be forced to work for free.  People are pissed about the economy & job market and are in no mood to start funding another multi-trillion dollar entitlement program for leeches.  A lot of the coverage in this bill is Medicaid coverage.  Medicaid is paid for by the states.  Most states are on the verge of bankruptcy.  Right now medical care in the states under Medicaid is going unfunded.  Hospitals and pharmacies are going broke. 

If this passes, it will be worse for Obama than if it fails.

  256

You are a moron if you believe that.  This country is on the brink, make no mistake. 

Posted by: bob at March 20, 2010 09:28 PM (u6p6X)

--Dude, if it passes, we lose, got it?

If three doctors confirm that you have inoperable terminal cancer, you're not a "pussy" if you say, "Well, I'll probably die of cancer." You're just facing facts.

Well that's one more thing I won't have to worry about after tomorrow.

The President said today "instead of going to your doctor and having 5 tests you'll have 1 test" ... I'm drunk, so not verbatim but very, very much along those lines.

wwwdotneoplexonlinedotcom/flag-car-black/

is it racist if we use a black flag?

Is it any good?

Yeah!  I likes me a good sci-fi B movie.  The dumb asshole has already done something dumb.  (There's always a dumb guy or a dumb asshole, depending upon whether it's comedy or horror.)  Very frustrating.

Has anyone noticed how far this country has sunk? The trolls no longer say they are conservative christians.

They don't even try anymore.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 20, 2010 09:35 PM (2g2ex)

Sharks don't eat poo.  We'd have to feed him to the lobsters.

Posted by: Barbarian at March 20, 2010 09:28 PM (EL+OC)

--WTF?! Because it's impossible to be interested in both?

purple avenger! show us yer frilly bits luvvy!

The opposition to Obamacare already peaked and has leveled off.  It's still unpopular, but that will fade as the summer comes and people are out having fun and enjoying the weather

Yes all those unemployed people will be happy when the good weather comes, it sucks to be homeless in bad weather.

It's odd, Fox is like the only whip count that has us in trouble. The rest look OK for us, or are neck and neck. It seems like they are being very aggressive with putting people who are undecided or leaning in a firm position in their tally

Maybe they have Shep Smith doing the counting.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 20, 2010 09:35 PM (2g2ex)

Posted by: bob at March 20, 2010 09:35 PM (u6p6X)

Is that you Nancy?

Posted by: bob at March 20, 2010 09:35 PM (u6p6X)

Can you also tell me what the stock market will do on Tuesday?

Posted by: Barbarian at March 20, 2010 09:28 PM (EL+OC)

--WTF?! Because it's impossible to be interested in both?

Seriously.  You bill sniffers seem to be a whole lot more single-minded than us jock sniffers.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2010 09:39 PM (UOM4

Does everyone know where those nice white sandy beaches come from?  They're poop.  Parrot fish poop.  The fish eat the coral and crap nice white sand.  Sometimes I hate the Discovery Channel.

Seriously.  You bill sniffers seem to be a whole lot more single-minded than us jock sniffers.

Posted by: FUBAR at March 20, 2010 09:39 PM (1fanL)

--Amen

 tank, you're in. 

Thank God!!!!

Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 20, 2010 09:43 PM (ozX5t)

Ain't that a coincidence?  I just happen to have a jock that needs sniffing.

I will say one thing though, I have absolutely no hope of tomorrow being a good day. In order for it to be a good day you have to suspend disbelief and think that some democrats will do the right thing not to ruin the country. That's right, scum sucking, bottom dwelling, prostitute democrats voting against their herd to do the right thing.

I am not betting on it.

Posted by: toby928 at March 20, 2010 09:44 PM (PD1tk)

It does give one a certain frisson.

Does everyone know where those nice white sandy beaches come from?  They're poop.  Parrot fish poop.  The fish eat the coral and crap nice white sand.  Sometimes I hate the Discovery Channel.

I think poop gets a bad rap sometimes, at least really old poop.  At the Museum of Science in Boston they had some petrified dinosaur poop samples that were beautiful.  I told my kids that I would love to use them as kitchen counters!!!

Posted by: bob at March 20, 2010 09:45 PM (u6p6X)

...Aaand I just soiled my undies.

I think they called the dinosaur poop - SCAT.  Sounds more upscale.

345, Heather....The Duras Sisters!??? HA HA HA. I can't believe I know what that means, but it is hilarious.

How can sanchez's not show up to vote? Are they that pissed off about not covering illegals?

Posted by: Twinks at March 20, 2010 09:09 PM (wRPBa)   

They are not undecided about the legislation itself. They are undecided about what the personal consequences of their votes will be.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2010 09:46 PM (UOM4

I make a mean margarita.  And as long as there's alcohol, I'll fish.

@73: "Phinn takes one last hit off his nitrous oxide canister, washes down his sorrows with a couple of pharmaceuticals that are supposedly banned by the fucking fascist Gestapo regime we live under, then hits the street in his El Camino for some serious fun."

Can I be your door gunner?

Posted by: bob at March 20, 2010 09:35 PM (u6p6X)

Can you also tell me what the stock market will do on Tuesday?

Well, if it passes then I can make a pretty good guess at what it will do next week.  It won't be pretty.

351 FUBAR.  Hon.  Relax.  Would you turn down a full body oil massage on one of those white sand beaches by a scantily clad moronette? 

Uh, gotta go _{check my bunk or something.}

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 20, 2010 09:28 PM (OkT2m)

Sanchez is a whore for the illegals. Orange County would have been far better sticking with "B-1Bob" Dornan. Crazy is better than treasonous any day.

I'm going to go and ride my horses tomorrow; I don't care if it rains.  I'm not going to follow this vote closely, because what would be the point?  One way or the other, it will be voted on, and at this point there is nothing anyone can do about it (except perhaps to say a prayer for divine providence, which probably isn't a bad idea).

I tend to enjoy myself and take a relaxing break -- it's always good to do that during the lulls. 

Tomorrow I think we find out just how many hidden enemies Mz. Pelosi has...and perhaps how many the precedent does too.  I think we might find out who has their eyes on the Speaker position.  The long knives may be out tomorrow; it will at least be interesting.

Posted by: bob at March 20, 2010 09:45 PM (u6p6X)

And you're celebrating this? 

Posted by: mpfs at March 20, 2010 09:48 PM (r5HyC)

Online?  Where?  I gotta say mpfs, you are ZOOMING up the Moronette rankings.

Posted by: toby928 at March 20, 2010 09:50 PM (PD1tk)

And you know this because you're a coprophiliac?

I think poop gets a bad rap sometimes, at least really old poop.  At the Museum of Science in Boston they had some petrified dinosaur poop samples that were beautiful.  I told my kids that I would love to use them as kitchen counters!!!

Posted by: tank at March 20, 2010 09:46 PM (2ltGt)

--Dude, get educated!

Posted by: winston at March 20, 2010 09:51 PM (Dq9BS)

Some folks define sodomy as penetration of anything but the ladyparts.  So watch your step.

And you're celebrating this? 

Posted by: Tami at March 20, 2010 09:50 PM (VuLos)

He get's to wear a nice shiny Obama Militia uniform next summer so why wouldn't he?

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 20, 2010 09:48 PM (URrMF)

That's where I am, Purp. My business is tanking, and as a self-employed "freelance" I'm not eligible for any gubmint handouts. They'd come in handy right about now....

I would lay it on the line for country, family and friends, but I'm not about to take gas just so Papa Doc Obama and Nanzi Pelosi can have their totalitarian circle-jerk.

As of now, they haven't hurt me more than by wrecking the economic climate for my former clients. If they want more, they may find the string keeping me sane, legal and civil is fraying very fast. And I'm not alone, by any means.

And you're celebrating this? 

Dino poop=coprolite

Oohh, much better than scat!  Too bad I didn't have this knowledge several years ago when the kitchen counters were replaced!

Posted by: SlaveDog at March 20, 2010 09:49 PM (W+E+o)

--Fucking skank.  I hope all the airlines are delayed tomorrw/tonight.

Posted by: di butler, superflybitch at March 20, 2010 09:57 PM (S3xX1)

You say you sleep in separate beds?  I'm starting to understand.

Per NRO: Loretta Sanchez  may not show up for the vote? Roll Call reports she was "nowhere to be found" today.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/yjrzvcv

I deem this thread rank.

Can we haz ONT?

By doing exactly NOTHING.  If Pelosi wins tomorrow, she sends two bills out of the House: the unamended Senate bill from Christmas to President Obama, and the reconciliation bill to the Senate.  If the Senate simply tosses the reconciliation bill in the trash, Obama is still free to sign the Senate health care bill into law.  Given that all 59 incumbent Democrats voted for it just last December, do you think they will be at all upset about getting that exact same bill signed into law?

The amazing thing is that Pelosi is letting herself be completely rolled by the Senate, but no so amazing when you consider that she's desperate for any first step toward socialized medicine.

Posted by: stuiec at March 20, 2010 08:29 PM

I don't think so.  I think this was the plan from the beginning.  The whole Reconciliation/Slaughter/Deem and Pass crap was just a cover for the House Dems.  They dragged this out so they could say to their constituents, "see we tried to change it."  But the intention was to pass the Senate bill all along.  Pelosi used all this other stuff to cover the so-called Blue-Dogs' and others' asses.  They had to know the Senate would never accept the amendments, it was all a scam.  The so-called Reconcilitaion bill will die a slow death and the Senate bill will become law, and that's what all these disgusting Libs wanted all along.

@256: "There won't be a revolution or riots in the streets or a war of secession or anything like that. Most people will grumble and adjust."

MOST will quietly accept it, yes.  There's a pretty good chance that some won't this time around.  Think a few militants can't hurt?  Read up on the IRA, INLA, the RHD, LVF, or other assorted militants in Northern Ireland.  Go visit the Alamo.  Ask the Israelis about how much carnage the various alphabet soup Arab terrorists caused.

It could easily happen here.

Posted by: This is Me Again at March 20, 2010 09:57 PM (tMSKg)

--I agree.  I try to keep saying that Republicans should quit trying to out-spend, out-abort, and out-pander Democrats --it's impossible-- and stick to the core.

Posted by: NotAMolly at March 20, 2010 10:00 PM (ADJFU)

What kind of tires you get for the house?

Two quick thoughts on the above:

1. You can't just count the number of people who showed up in DC for the tea party rally today without also counting the numbers who were there on previous rallies.  My family was there on 9/12, but we're not going back every time they have another rally.  Ignore us, because we weren't there today, at your peril.  (And I will be working to defeat lots of supposed "pro life" "fiscally responsible" Ohio Democrats for the balance of this year.)

2. Even more people are going to realize this is a bad bill when they find out they can't get health care coverage 6 months from now because they can't afford it.  They will be looking for the government handout and will be told: wait 4 years.  Not a single person who was brought up as an example for why we need this bill will be helped in 2010 - the media won't report it, but the blog-o-sphere will.  There is no way people will like this legislation more in 2010 or 2011 or 2012 than they do now because it will not help anybody in 2010 or 2011 or 2012, but it will increase health insurance costs, hurt job creation, cause people to lose their jobs, and cause people to lose their current health insurance.

3. Bottom line: Dems. don't. care.

And as of now, they don’t have 218. They may very well think they 218 – but its still iffy. 24 hours is a lifetime in politics. Your guessing. Every whip count right now is a guess. Some are more educated than others. Yours, not so much.

Not so fast Mallemutt.   As of this minute I have more than 750 votes for this bill. 

Posted by: unbob's vomit at March 20, 2010 09:58 PM (d+9mI)

they predicted the anger imho. the dhs report came out before they implented their takeover.

they knew most freedom loving people would have difficulty swallowing this whole enchilada of car manufaturers given away to their griypies, banks  ecomy being destroyed, maybe i have become a conspriacy fruitcake, i dunno, but why the report accusing regular americans of threatening stuff when it never happened here before in modern times.

we are the middle law abiding keep nose to the grindstone, love our country and it's hopes it brings to al,, why accuse us ?

we have been threatened and intimidated from the beginning, called names by news and leader? why?

Posted by: NotAMolly at March 20, 2010 10:05 PM (ADJFU)

Oh, that makes sense, I thought maybe you were moving.

Jane,

Can I reside in D'ohville? I am not adverse to rolling around in the warm parrot fish poop. And I can shoot, hunt, cook and will stab anyone who pisses you off.

Per NRO: Loretta Sanchez  may not show up for the vote? Roll Call reports she was "nowhere to be found" today.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/yjrzvcv

Posted by: Kevin at March 20, 2010 10:01 PM (DSMQO)"

OMG...Batchelor had a congressman on the other night....and he said the best way to deal with this if you are a dem who is voting no is to vote no and then disappear....maybe she didn't hear the "vote no"  part

I'm confused.

Didn't Gabe say that Pelosi needed all but about two of his "maybes"?

And then Drew claimed that two of the "maybes" went "No"?  Isn't that supposed to mean we're in good shape?

OTOH, Gabe's last "maybe" list didn't add up to the number he said (off by one, by my count), and it sounds like some of the Stupak "No's" that he's counting (I think) may actually be "Yes".

So what's the deal???

Posted by: NotAMolly at March 20, 2010 10:08 PM (ADJFU)

Yeah I sold the ones off my house too .

Does everyone know where those nice white sandy beaches come from?  They're poop.  Parrot fish poop.  The fish eat the coral and crap nice white sand.  Sometimes I hate the Discovery Channel.

Dont tell my fans that. I make alot of money off them. What the hell, they smoke so much reefer they want notice.

Where were you when I needed you to help out with scantily clad massages on the beach of my new paradise? 

Umm, I believe I will pull an Obama and vote present on this one.

It seems to me that every time something comes very close to not swinging the way certain people (ehem, P,Wee, and Friends) that there is an influx of new posters who are very certain and very concerned.

Tell you what, certain and concerned posters, take a break -- you need some rest from all that concern and certainty; it's stressful.  Stress is a bad thing.  I think you should go to bed early tonight; that way you'll be ready for your big day tomorrow.  Ok?  See?  Works out great; now run along Bob and Dinosaur person -- mustn't have droopy eyes for tomorrow!

@330: "I would prefer to see the bill fail, but the handwriting is on the wall. And most Americans will accept it without resorting to drastic measures. They will probably vote for the GOP in large numbers in November, but that's as "revolutionary" as it's going to get."

There's that most again.  Hedging your own bets, huh?

447 @421
Correction: Massa is not a known cocksucker but a confirmed "cocktickler." That is all.

Um, I think Massa is a snorkeling afficianado.

Posted by: AD at March 20, 2010 09:59 PM (vMq5s)

I was replying to Bob - you left that part of your copy/paste in your need to call me a troll.  JFC = Jesus F'in Christ

Anybody know how to post a vid of Gandalf standing on bridge screaming at the Bulwarg, "You shall not pass!". 

I'm such a geek.

@343: "I am a newly minted precinct leader. Never done this before. Could use ideas on how to do a good job."

Don't support Socialist-lite GOPers. 

Sanchez must be Obama in a dress.

Voting present

Posted by: winston at March 20, 2010 10:15 PM (Dq9BS)

Where you sourcing this from?  I saw his spokesman said the Yes rumor was a hoax but that he was still undecided.

Posted by: mystry at March 20, 2010 10:16 PM (kmgIE)

It will be over, they may try to actually fix health care problems with republican help but the massive take over will be history.

Got a fix for SS and Medicare BTW? Does it involve a rifle?

Mmmm.  Is this a trick question?  

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2010 10:11 PM (UOM4

--Am I allowed in?  What do I get to do?

I was replying to Bob - you left that part of your copy/paste in your need to call me a troll.  JFC = Jesus F'in Christ

Posted by: tdpwells at March 20, 2010 10:16 PM (Ei3oZ)

I know - I took it for granted. My bad, but I wasn't calling you a troll - I thought you were referring to him by "JFC" and was trying to figure out who he was.  It looks like our friend has used a few names.

@373: "I'm going to go and ride my horses tomorrow; I don't care if it rains.  I'm not going to follow this vote closely, because what would be the point?  One way or the other, it will be voted on, and at this point there is nothing anyone can do about it (except perhaps to say a prayer for divine providence, which probably isn't a bad idea)."

Rifle range in the morning, bowling league at night for me.  I'll read the news on Monday.  It's all in Fortune's hands now.

478  Oh, they'll keep plugging -- but perhaps without Nanzi the not so fair.  I'm not so sure something might be underfoot to deep six her botoxed ass.  Malignant narcissists have a problem: they can't stand to share the limelight -- since the inaugeration there have been manueverings among the top Dems to try and step into the stagelight with their one and only.  They're willing to stab each other in the back -- have been doing it or trying to get into position for 18 months, and one big problem: their one and only doesn't like to share the theater, let alone the stage. 

Perpare for even more mayhem and little resolution tomorrow -- Reid was first; now it may be Nanzi's turn.

I know - I took it for granted. My bad, but I wasn't calling you a troll - I thought you were referring to him by "JFC" and was trying to figure out who he was.  It looks like our friend has used a few names.

Posted by: AD at March 20, 2010 10:24 PM (vMq5s)

S'all good.

I try not to say the actual words for fear of being struck by lightning. 

Posted by: elliot m at March 20, 2010 09:35 PM (vff86)

I am intrigued by your cut-throat thinking and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Now that I've got that subscription taken care of, I've got to fill out my appy for D'oh Ville.  Is it like Teh Villages without drunken Joe Biden singing the theme song?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2010 10:25 PM (UOM4

--Why thank you.  As of now I'm most suited to be a Chairborne Ranger, but I'll happily take up training for more.

466 I nominate Count de Monet for um, guy who's in charge of 'splody and shooty things. (On the Isle of D'oh Ville) 

Assignment accepted.  Moronette range training would go something like this.

I think we're off track discussing whether or not we'll ever be able to repeal this bill.  Wrong conversation.

The big question is whether or not we'll be able to pass a Republican version of Health Care Reform in a few years. 

I think the left is betting that this bill will be such an abortion that Americans will accept a conversion to a single-payer, government-run system. 

Maybe the GOP should start running on simplifying health care and offering more choice to citizens.  Perhaps the government could provide catastrophic coverage to all citizens while promoting a free market for more comprehensive insurance.   I think that would be a better option than just pushing for repeal. 

496  Oh, I think it has been at least noted; I think stupid Harry's plight has been noted as well...the only issue is, the rest of them are so damn arrogant as well that they think they would be the one to not get screwed over in turn.

Pretty soon that pack of rabid hyenas is going to stop circling one another and one of them is going to go for the throat -- outside of a few, idiot true believers and useful idiots, they want to fall on each other, rather than any swords.

I don't think so.  I think this was the plan from the beginning.  The whole Reconciliation/Slaughter/Deem and Pass crap was just a cover for the House Dems.  They dragged this out so they could say to their constituents, "see we tried to change it."  But the intention was to pass the Senate bill all along.  Pelosi used all this other stuff to cover the so-called Blue-Dogs' and others' asses.  They had to know the Senate would never accept the amendments, it was all a scam.  The so-called Reconcilitaion bill will die a slow death and the Senate bill will become law, and that's what all these disgusting Libs wanted all along.

Posted by: Deanna at March 20, 2010 10:02 PM (JXlgX)

My take on it is that the Reconciliation/Demon Pass ploy wasn't aimed at fooling the constituents, but rather at fooling the Dem House members themselves.  It was an effort to convince the weak-minded in their caucus that their vote would have "plausible deniability," when none of their constituents would find it either plausible or deniable.

It's a race:  Dems trying to convert this monstrosity into single-payer vs. Reps. trying to convert it into individually-controlled HSA's

504  Facts are stubborn things and I'm a compulsive picture straightener.

In the last two Presidential elections, 62,041,000 voted for Pres. Bush in 2004 and 59,935,000 voted for John McCain in 2008, a decline of 2,106,000.

Similarly, 59,028,000 voted for John F'ng Kerry in 2004 and 69,457,000 voted for B. Obama, an increase of 10,429,000.

McCain lost the popular vote by 9,522,000, so I hardly think the 2.1 million who voted in 2004 and stayed home in 2008 were the deciding factor.

Distribution/concentration of the votes to maximize Electoral College totals (286 for Bush in 2004, 385 for Obama in 200 had to be the result of where the extra 9.5 million democratic party Obama voters showed up.

BTW, I've confused Hicks and Hudson too.  There is even a scene where the new Lt. mixes them up.  Pvt. Hudson was the emotional one, Corporal Hicks was the hero (other than Ripley).

Now, on to the ONT!

Okay, whoever asked for the precinct captain stuff, here's your blueprint:

http://tinyurl.com/ychomtp

You can also goggle precinct captain+Tea Party and get a few blogs that give good info.  Good luck!

Posted by: Thomas Hooker at March 20, 2010 09:44 PM (W/MMc)

You remember NY23? Don't fucking do that and you're golden.

Yes.  Yes, you may.

Although I should warn you -- my last door gunner sorta went nuts, cracked up, total basket case.  He became a blogger instead.

CountdeMonet,  You will see that Obama ran up HUGE popular vote totals in californaia, illinois,and new york. Just those 3 states accounted for a huge percentage of that 9 million gap. Those are 3 of the bluest states and gets the same elctoral votes whether he wins by 1 or 1 million.

Bottom line, all a GOP person has to do in 2012 is win the 2004 bush states, by 1 vote each if need be, and they beat Obama. Due to electoral college changes the GOP person could even afford to lose a few of the 2004 bush states and still win.

You will find that many or almost all of the red states Obama turned blue were by 8% or less. Many were 5% or less in the worst year for republicans in my life time. A turn around in 2012 is not hard to see at all.

It's horribly cheesy, but why the hell not? It's appropriate for this dark hour.

I gotta agree with you.  Its cheesy.  Thanks for finding it. Dan

530

The books are sooooo much better

Look peeps-

I haz beer in me so the options are really damn clear.

1. Keep calling. I reaaly think they can't be this goddamn stupid.

2.Whip counts in the most part are in our favor, so see point 1.

3. The low hanging, small minded, wanna be assholes who shouldn't have been then anyway are not getting theit "OK, you can vote NO" cards- they are getting tossed to pasture. THEY DON'T HAVE THE VOTES without sacificing a lot of freshman and sophmore reps, and they STILL are trrying to craft a dealwith STUPAK?

THEY DON'T HAVE THIS.

4.Keep calling.This the most far reaching, and yet most unpopular plan this countruy has ever considered. We are on the pecipice of a congress passing a bll that will potentially impoverish thousands and make life miserable for the vast majority.

Past history, Patriots would step up and shoot these bastards down in the streets, or do like the Czechs and roll the carpets and toss them in the sewers(my fave).

But we are still a nation of laws (which they break at every fucking turn to impose their will) , so we should still abide by those laws(like the sheep they thik we are). ......Do things right, we play by the rules, for some fucking reason.

Hate to be rude, but WTF is a Proud Canadian?

If you said that 40 or 50 years ago, sure-no question! but seriously?

You have a whole country whose identity is rooted in being "not part of the USA".

If it wasn't for our miltiary, you couldn't even defend your self- what have your overbearing healthcare costs reduced the defence budget to now? 3 Mounties, a Kayak, and a paper airplane?

Seriously, your Government, your political system, your military, etc-

DISGARCE.

It is even more pathetic how we have assholes here trying to copy it.

I miss the Canadians and Canadiens that had the guits and Balls to step ps at Dieppe & Normandy.

YES, there are some GREAT soldiers from Canada serving along side our boys in Afganistan, and they are serving admirably, but where were they in Iraq? Where are they in the rest of the world?

Cowards? Wussies? or just too damn liberalized and self centered?

Posted by: TC at March 20, 2010 08:00 PM (4XzsU)

I'll drink to that!

Past history, Patriots would step up and shoot these bastards down in the streets, or do like the Czechs and roll the carpets and toss them in the sewers(my fave).

********************

I'm really fond of what the Italians did to El Duce and his whore. MY fave.

In this country we would be arguing over venue while it would have been over elsewhere.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 20, 2010 09:17 PM (URrMF)

PA... they're going to be living at home with their parents. They're NEVER moving out. So the beer and weed thing will work well for them. When the parents die of exhaustion, they will get SSI survivors benefits. That way, they won't run out of beer and weed.

This is all going to turn out well. Just ask Kratos. He'll tell ya!

I want a house, but it is too expensive for me

www.hulantrading.com