1 Obamacare?  I thought we did Obamacare.

2 We have to pass our bills to find out what is in them, and once we pass them fuck you get back to work bitch.

3 Is there some reason the Republicans aren't bringing up Obamacare whenever there is a microphone in front of them? ALL that Obama has accomplished in 1 1/2 years is spend money that has created no jobs and Obamacare.

4 See?  You found out what was in the bill!

5

By Obama's estimates, as many as 69 percent of employees, 80 percent of small businesses, and 64 percent of large businesses will be forced to change coverage, probably to more expensive plans.

If you like your health care plan, you can blow me. I mean keep it. But first you will blow me.

6

You think the law is bad? Just wait until the regulations come trickling down.

Well at least he can say he saved and/or created jobs at the GPO with a straight face.

7 This is a big fng deal.

8

If this article could be put in the hands of every American who has health coverage today, Democrats would hang two to a lamppost.

_{Figuratively speaking, of course.}

9 Hey guys would you mind if I walked thru another tea party with my big gavel smiling and laughing in your face as I enacted another bill you despised? Vote for Dems in 2010 and see it happen!!!

10

I promise if you like your coverage you can keep your coverage; that said, you can't keep your coverage.

I promise if you like your coverage you can keep your coverage;  that said, I know that you really, deep down, don't like your coverage.

11 I promise Obamacare will lower the deficit. Now that I have said that, the only way I am not laughing out loud right now is because of all the botox.

12 Heh.

13 Gentlemen and ladies (though I know we're neither): I have but a simple question? Why? Why is Chris Christie the only GOP leader who really Gets It? At this point, you would at least think a few other elected Republicans would see how wildly successful the Round Mound of Rebound is with the grassroots, and at least make some tentative attempts to emulate him. Just somewhere, on one or two small issues. But it's not happening. Even in this once-in-a-generation moment where the public is clamoring for the Hairy Testicles of Titanium(tm) to come slamming down in their states and districts. Why?

14 I knew from the start it was a clusterfark. It had been languishing in Waxman's file cabinet since he first read "Das Kapital".

15 'We have to pass the bill before we can find out what's in it...'

Seriously..this is from the FUCKING SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE!!!  What in the Hell is wrong with people?  How retarded do you have to be to keep electing this fucking idiot???  Where's the outrage???

16 I was just informed that my insurance is ending.  I'm a physician getting screwed 6 different ways by Obamacare (I stopped counting at 6 or it would be higher).  Did you know there is an election of Nov. 2?  Just thought I'd remind you.

17 It was what we thought it was!

18 You guys really don't believe I will report any negative effects of Obamacare do you?

19 I promise if you like your coverage you can keep your coverage;  that said, I am scratching my nose with this finger for a reason, morons.

20 Ace's sarcasm-humor dryness is incompatible with mobile devices and my growing vision insecurity (and increasing grey hair).

21 I think the problem is they signed the bill with too few pens.

22 On the principle "but it feels so good when it stops," the Republicans only need to promise to get the Federal government's priapism out of the taxpayers' collective backside and they'll win huge in November.

23

Thus, ObamaCare offers not much of a clear benefit to either party.

Heh.

^Right?

24 Does this sound pathetic to you...

...after reading Ace's last post, I recalled his "angry grizzly bear" post a month back and got inspired to photo-shop roaring grizzly pics with the word "VOTE!" coming from his jaws. That's how I spent the last 30 minutes.

..., well does it?

25 Guess what? I can't keep my coverage because of the painful price increase. So my coverage is getting rolled back this year. _{(Caused entirely by greed of course, not by adding lotso folks to insurance rolls without doing one thing to decrease the cost of the current system)}

26 18 You guys really don't believe I will report any negative effects of Obamacare do you?

Posted by: The MFM at September 23, 2010 06:56 PM (V/EYZ)

Heh... that's the things with news like this. It won't be news reports that matter to people, but their employers, accountants, and doctors letting them know that they will be needing find a new policy, some extra cash for the tax collectors, and a doctor who isn't retiring early.

27 But it's not happening. Even in this once-in-a-generation moment where the public is clamoring for the Hairy Testicles of Titanium(tm) to come slamming down in their states and districts. Why? I may be wrong but I think vast sums of money are involved for the entrenched .

28 You can keep your coverage as long as you pay much more for it!!!!!!!

29 What makes this country great is its spirit of competition. Now that Americans will be able to experience plans different from their existing ones, that spirit will catch fire. I was originally skeptical when the President recently announced that he was business-friendly, but I am beginning to see what he was getting at. I am not now entirely sure if it would be a "wise investment" to change course this November.

30 You have to pull the trigger to find out if it is loaded.

31 The GOP can't repeal Obamacare! Won't somebody think of the 26 year old children!

32 32 The GOP can't repeal Obamacare!
Won't somebody think of the 26 year old children!

Posted by: jjshaka at September 23, 2010 07:01 PM (0OzvK)

When the dems are done with the economy, people will be thinking of their 30 and 40 year old children moving back in with them.

33 If they repeal Obamacare, we all still get free Obama T-Shirts to be buried in, right?

34 21 I think the problem is they signed the bill with too few pens.

Posted by: garrett at September 23, 2010 06:56 PM (btcwG)

No, there was an actual rider in the bill that required that the pens used to sign it would have to be developed by NASA (with 25% of the engineering input from Muslims), at a cost of no less than $4 million dollars, with an additional $2 million dollars going to the SEIU. The pens had to be delivered by a 'special' Chevy Volt convoy consisting of at least 2,500 vehicles accompanied by a police escort of 500 more Chevy Volts. 

Goddamn these fuckers.

35 Why is Chris Christie the only GOP leader who really Gets It?

The ones in Washington are too insulated from the commoners.

Since the frontrunners for 2012 are Romney, Huckabee, and Gingrich, it isn't a given Obama would lose. Those 3 are as clueless as the rest.

36 Does this sound pathetic to you...

...after reading Ace's last post, I recalled his "angry grizzly bear" post a month back and got inspired to photo-shop roaring grizzly pics with the word "VOTE!" coming from his jaws. That's how I spent the last 30 minutes.

..., well does it?

Posted by: Serious Cat at September 23, 2010 06:57 PM (bAySe)

They could have been angry Ewoks. That would have been pathetic.

37
You have to drink the Drano to find out if it's poison.

38 Yep, got a look at our new plans today. This year we had about 10-12. For next year, there are 3. 2012, we get 1 - take it or leave it. They're still afraid to tell us how much it costs...

39 "I promise if you like your coverage you can keep your coverage; that said, you can't keep your coverage." But they made sure that congress can keep their coverage and at bargain basement rates for-evah!

40

Today is the first day that a one of the "unintended consequences" of Obamacare rolled out.  Insurance companies have dropped plans of "child only" coverage because they didn't want to have to deal with the regulation being foisted upon them by Obamacare.

Thank you Obama!  We loooove you! 

41
Since the frontrunners for 2012 are Romney, Huckabee, and Gingrich,

Wit that dry deserves a drink on the house!

42 @Russell28

Yeah, I got my company's plans in the mail yesterday. We get the option of 3 plans from one company this year, and we're stuck with one plan in 2012.

November can't come soon enough, and I'm gonna primary any Republican who doesn't vote for repeal in 2012.

43 Keep your coverage.
We will keep our Death Panels



- - - - - Moron-ku!

44 18 You guys really don't believe I will report any negative effects of Obamacare do you?

Posted by: The MFM at September 23, 2010 06:56 PM (V/EYZ)

Unfortunately for the Dems, everyone is going to find out the negative effects when their HR department gives them the enrollment presenation

45 My favorite obamaboner was when in an interview he said doctors would appreciate being told what tests were the best for their patients. No, asshole, they can make that determination themselves with their patients and without the feds help which would in truth be rationing. Talk about arrogance!

46
haha, guess what the clever Left is calling the GOP's Pledge To America?

These are same a-holes who brought us the Contract With On America.

Take a guess.

47 runningrn @42, I think you may be overstating the effect. Business in America thrives on good old fashioned honesty and "fair play." With so many companies keeping their eye on the "bottom line" by filling out 1099s for every penny, a sense of accountability will flourish. It won't be long before the large insurers reconsider and decide that they should be accountable to the children too.

48 Yeah, Obamacare sucks, but hey, ODumbass said our premiums would be lowered by 3000%, right?  So we have that going for us.

49 I promise if you like your coverage you can keep your coverage; that said, when I say 'you', it really only pertains to 'me.'

50 It appears the wave is real and the mass devastation will continue through Nov. 3rd. 

The only question that remains, if this is true, is how many waves in the tsunami?  We need a series of sea-change elections.  And after this one, the subsequent waves will claim many currently entrenched "republicans" if things go as they should.

If not, this election will just be a short pause in our head-long dive into the abyss.

51 ObamaDon'tCare

52 Obama wasn't lying when he said "Of course you can keep your current coverage." The problem was he was talking to Congress and the voters assumed he was addressing them.

53 I promise that if you are happy with your coverage then ......FUCK YOU!!!  I WON MOTHA-FUCKA

54 And Granny NannyMcBotoxSourTits said Obamacare would create 400,000 jobs immediately after being signed into law.  So wow, us racist, Nazi, teabagging hate-mongers should be thanking them.   

55

...by filling out 1099s for every penny, a sense of accountability will flourish.

Posted by: Average Joe at September 23, 2010 07:18 PM (gP7iJ)

Yet another thing dim congress critters were shocked to find out was in the bill.

When a bill was introduced to repeal that particular part, odumbass sent word to the leadership that he didn't want that part taken out, because he didn't want to set a precedent of repealing any part of the bill.   

Another reason people hate that pos bill.

56

Let's do a thought experiment.

(I know all the Morons/Moronettes here know the answer because you have a keen grasp of the obvious. But let's just say an Axelrod troll comes by or Fapdragon or something)

You are in the buisness of selling apples.  You make money by buying apples from the grower and then selling the apples to people for more than you paid for them (i.e. you can profit).  The government tells you to sell apples for a lower price than you can profit from.

In response to the government's demand you:

A) Sell apples until you are out of money and go out of business.

B) Go out of business.

Note that regardless of whether you choose A or B, the end result is that you stop selling apples.  Also, as you go out of business, community activists and politicians will curse you for being a greedy apple-hoarder who cares nothing for the children who can now no longer get apples.

It's a trivial and simple example but that's what Obamacare does to insurance.  It's already happening.  This is affecting peoples lives on a massive scale.  This poison has been forced on us and it's just now hitting home.  People suspected what would happen but now the devil has come to collect.

(The Democrats will be lucky if getting voted out of office is all that happens to them...)

57 We had a meeting yesterday to go over the changes to the Health Plans here, and they're getting pretty badly gutted. Go Zero!

58 Winston @59, under your option A, the business continues to sell apples for a time. During that period, more apples grow! That will certainly make up for any losses on the prior apples.

59 haha, guess what the clever Left is calling the GOP's Pledge To America?

These are same a-holes who brought us the Contract With On America.

Take a guess.

Posted by: the chief AoS inquisitor at September 23, 2010 07:18 PM (zgaoG)

Umm... P*** On America?

/what did I win?

60 26 18 You guys really don't believe I will report any negative effects of Obamacare do you?

Posted by: The MFM at September 23, 2010 06:56 PM (V/EYZ)

Heh... that's the things with news like this. It won't be news reports that matter to people, but their employers, accountants, and doctors letting them know that they will be needing find a new policy, some extra cash for the tax collectors, and a doctor who isn't retiring early.

Posted by: Randy at September 23, 2010 06:58 PM (zQKSr)

My awesome nephrologist said he is hanging it up before 2014. He has had it with lawyers, the FDA, the AMA, insurance, etc.

61 I may be wrong but I think vast sums of money are involved for the entrenched .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at September 23, 2010 06:58 PM (XDeui)

Do a search for insider trading among US senators. They do 12% better than the market; mutual fund superstars do on average 2% better. Coincidence??

62 I got my notice at work yesterday of the coming changes in our open enrollment next month. New? Dependents age out at 26. Oh, and your imaging deductible is increasing to $100 and you premiums are going up 10%.

63

All the time that Pelosi and the Dems were calling the Town Halls "astroturf" and "UnAmerican" last summer, I thought they knew the town halls, Tea Party protests, 9/12 on the mall, etc were actually real grassroots efforts, and that they were just trying to convince their base not to take all that "astroturf" seriously. 

But now I think they must've really believed that.  It looks like it's just now starting to dawn on them what's actually been happening. 

And they have completely backed themselves into a corner.  They can't reach out and try to win over the Tea Party (by attempting to say the right things) because they've done nothing but demonize them for over a year, which has only motivated them more.  They can't try to blame the Repubs for any part of Obamacare because it was strictly a party-line vote (there's a reason for seeking compromise and bipartisanship).  They can't even talk about "improving" Obamacare because of all the vast lies they told about it to sell it to their own Dems.

This Obamacare debacle will go down in the books as textbook what not to do.  There's simply no way to spin it or to fix it (from the Dem standpoint).  But the best part of it all is the crystal clear lesson the politicians of both parties will learn:  listen to the people, or else.

 

64 61 Winston @59, under your option A, the business continues to sell apples for a time. During that period, more apples grow! That will certainly make up for any losses on the prior apples.

Posted by: Average Joe at September 23, 2010 07:53 PM (liBQN)

Wrong.  Note the key point above: The government tells you to sell apples for a lower price than you can profit from.  The end result is the same: you go out of business.

See, that's why you will be completely bewildered when your insurance (if you have it) will go up, be cancelled,  or drop most of its options.  You live in some fantasy land where magical things happen.  Tell me, will new insurance policies suddenly appear for those children who's policies were cancelled (see link above)?

Another example.  What will happen to those companies that have to report every little transaction on a 1099?  Will they:

A) Blindly comply with the law doing the same number of transactions as now even though the cost of compliance is high.  After all, this is the path of rigorus honesty.

B) Cut back on those transactions as much as possible, thus slowing their business down?

C) Do a lot of work under the table, by barter, and/or in cash?

(I predict you'll say answer "D) the skittle shitting unicorn saves the day." ...)

65

But it's not happening. Even in this once-in-a-generation moment where the public is clamoring for the Hairy Testicles of Titanium(tm) to come slamming down in their states and districts.  Why?

I find this worrisome.  My suspicion is because the Repubs don't really want to push back hard on the spending and make the tough decisions like Chris Christie is doing.

After Nov 2nd, it's absolutely critical that conservatives/Tea Party stay in the faces of the Reps.  They must live in fear of being primaried in 2012.  Reminded that this wave voting for them is skeptical of the elephants and they must prove their worth or they're out.

One thing I do like is that the Reps platform includes repeal of Obamacare.  For awhile I thought they'd try to focus only on "fixing" the bill.  So maybe they do get it.

66 Maybe if Congress called us racists several thousand more times we'd get to like Obamacare? I know I'll like it much more when my premium goes screaming up.

67 69 61 Winston @59, under your option A, the business continues to sell apples for a time. During that period, more apples grow! That will certainly make up for any losses on the prior apples.

Posted by: Average Joe at September 23, 2010 07:53 PM (liBQN)

Wrong.  Note the key point above: The government tells you to sell apples for a lower price than you can profit from.  The end result is the same: you go out of business.

No, see, you make it up in volume.  Stupid wingnut.

68 Quelle surprise!
You don't mean that socialized medicine focuses the question individual vs. collective?!?
Some really hip people you would want to emulate if only you knew who they were say that coercion devalues merit: anyone can be "good" with a gun to their head.

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