April 13, 2010
— DrewM 47 heads of state gathered and what happened?
Well, Ukraine, Canada and Chile agreed to ship some uranium to the United States. That's, um, nice but probably didn't require a two day show.
Oh and they agreed this is real important stuff and they will meet again in a few years.
World leaders concluding a 47-nation nuclear security conference on Tuesday endorsed President Barack Obama's call for securing all of the globe's vulnerable nuclear materials within four years — but offered few specifics for achieving that goal.Aiming for quick action, the United States declared that the Obama administration had submitted to Congress legislation to bring U.S. laws into line with two treaties: one to crack down on potential nuclear terrorism and one on the physical protection of nuclear materials.
Obama had called the summit to focus world attention on keeping such dangerous materials out of terrorist hands, a peril he termed the greatest threat facing all nations.
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The summiteers announced that a follow-up nuclear security conference will be held in South Korea in 2012.
President Lee Myung-bak told reporters that North Korean leader Kim Jong Il will not get an invitation until the North gives up its efforts to build a nuclear arsenal.
North Korea's efforts — and its withdrawal from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty that sets the rules of the road for nuclear technology — kept it out of the Washington summit. Syria, which is suspected by the U.S. and others of harboring nuclear weapons ambitions, also was not invited.
How do you know this summit was an event looking for some real news? The US and Russians announced a deal to shut down a Russian weapons reactor. Thing is, that deal had already been announced. As we might say here at the HQ, it's old.
Granted nuclear terrorism is an important issue but it's not actually the most important issue when it comes to nukes. Iran is. There's nothing that this summit did that couldn't have been handled at a lower level. But perhaps something dramatic could have been done on Iran. The thing is when it comes to getting agreement, Iran is hard, terrorism is easy.
It's almost as if Obama did something for show and not, I don't know, real results.
On the upside, it did give Obama a chance to bow to a despot.
Meanwhile, the health care law is unpopular and the economy is in the tank and will be for the foreseeable future but Obama got some happy press, so it's all good.
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But what is REALLY happening is that the jugeared jackass gave up the store to get that damn summit.
Posted by: Vic at April 13, 2010 01:14 PM (QrA9E)
Posted by: dagny at April 13, 2010 01:15 PM (k+Aa0)
Posted by: MSM at April 13, 2010 01:15 PM (P33XN)
Posted by: jakeman at April 13, 2010 01:15 PM (8QmEC)
So the word "terrorism" can be used when it comes to terrorists getting nukes. But anything short of nukes is not terrorism?
Is that about right? Or are the words "terroism and terrorist" back in play now?
Posted by: alppuccino at April 13, 2010 01:15 PM (J0J87)
Posted by: Jack M. at April 13, 2010 01:16 PM (Ncr1R)
FIFY
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 13, 2010 01:16 PM (0fPOP)
The Israelis are now going to build a nice new synagogue as a sort of fuck-you to Hussein in that Jerusalem housing addition, so it's all good.
Posted by: pets.com sockpuppet at April 13, 2010 01:17 PM (MN33D)
Of course, he gets that when he farts.
I really admire the way he's still having questioners picked beforehand, not even making pretend. He called the name of the douche from the WaPo and had to ask where he is. What an Indonesian ...
Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 13, 2010 01:17 PM (N49h9)
Posted by: Barack Obama at April 13, 2010 01:18 PM (tcMQZ)
Posted by: KLL at April 13, 2010 01:18 PM (/5Axw)
Posted by: runningrn at April 13, 2010 01:23 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 13, 2010 01:23 PM (a9UO0)
Posted by: Chainsaw Chimp at April 13, 2010 01:25 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: runningrn at April 13, 2010 01:25 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 13, 2010 01:25 PM (R2fpr)
Waving homemade signs at Congressmen is still terrorism, teabagger.
Posted by: Janet N at April 13, 2010 01:25 PM (mR7mk)
Posted by: DC Hookers at April 13, 2010 01:25 PM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: The Can at April 13, 2010 01:25 PM (wOGfT)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 13, 2010 01:26 PM (xaIKE)
It's almost as if Obama did something for show and not, I don't know, real results.
So business as usual. Make it look like he's really doing something while at the same time requiring no actual effort promises responsibility or accountability.
Posted by: buzzion at April 13, 2010 01:26 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 13, 2010 01:26 PM (xaIKE)
Posted by: MSM at April 13, 2010 01:26 PM (P33XN)
Posted by: runningrn at April 13, 2010 05:23 PM (CfmlF)
Sadly, The Precedent isn't looking for any second term. He's on a one term suicide mission to take this nation down. He will be pushing us to the edge until either this nation breaks (which is the likeliest outcome, especially given the monetary catastrophe that is barreling down the road) or people come to their senses and throw the America-hating Indonesian out of office.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 13, 2010 01:27 PM (N49h9)
Posted by: Kaitian at April 13, 2010 01:27 PM (fjYGK)
Can any of you smart military morons put me some f'in' knowledge on "protective barriers" or "U.S. Central Command"?
Posted by: Janet N at April 13, 2010 01:29 PM (mR7mk)
Posted by: rawmuse at April 13, 2010 01:31 PM (GIhpE)
radom places across the U.S? or did that not come up?
Silly. How are his fellow jihadi going to make all those dirty bombs if we lock all that stuff up in a sealed cavern?
Posted by: Dang Straights at April 13, 2010 01:32 PM (fx8sm)
Posted by: catmman at April 13, 2010 01:32 PM (7egPo)
Posted by: Soona' at April 13, 2010 01:33 PM (AfINV)
Obama had called the summit to focus world attention on keeping such dangerous materials out of terrorist hands, a peril he termed the greatest threat facing all nations.
Somewhere a goofy little Korean dude and a whole bunch of batshit crazy mullahs are laughing. In separate locations. As far as we know.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 13, 2010 01:33 PM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Dr. Spank at April 13, 2010 01:34 PM (I1/U/)
Spank is right!
What have ANY of you people done to prevent nuclear proliferation today?
Yeah, I didn't think so!
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 01:36 PM (F09Uo)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 13, 2010 01:36 PM (xaIKE)
Awww, baby. Don't make the King bust out his stuff.
Lissen here, Baracky, you wansum favable press? Jus' take a page from the King's little ole playbook. Takeabuncha drugs and drop dead on the crapper while ya's TCin some B. Uh-huhhuh.
*nods*
Yeah, ole Elvis' songbong gotta lot more val'ble in jus' one day. Got allkindsa outpourin' a public griefanstuff, too. Ohhhhhmama!
Posted by: Zombie Elvis at April 13, 2010 01:37 PM (kmEfr)
I detect a little jealously in some of what is written here.
It's actually a watermelon vinaigrette. For spring and everything.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 13, 2010 01:37 PM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Dr. Spank at April 13, 2010 01:38 PM (I1/U/)
I'm tired of the posters and commenters here denigrating our fearless leader. Obama is all substance, all the time. I detect a little jealously in some of what is written here. It makes me sad.
Sigh! You caught me redhanded! You're right, Obama's got a lot more substance and is much more weightier than I!
Posted by: The Thin Man at April 13, 2010 01:38 PM (CfmlF)
The Russians would probably have shut down the plant entirely on their own as they have not even attempted to refurbish this 50+ year-old Siberian reactor. They are simply replacing it with a more modern facility.
Posted by: Albus at April 13, 2010 01:38 PM (sZNYc)
Posted by: s☺mej☼e at April 13, 2010 01:38 PM (4y0YU)
I'm tired of the posters and commenters here denigrating our fearless leader. Obama is all substance, all the time. I detect a little jealously in some of what is written here. It makes me sad.
OK, you're right! Who am I trying to kid? I've got nothing on our fearless leader.
Posted by: The Invisible Man at April 13, 2010 01:39 PM (CfmlF)
Well ... at least, The Precedent kept away from babbling about the "profit and earnings ratios" of rogue nations building nukes - though that line would have killed, I'm sure.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 13, 2010 01:39 PM (N49h9)
Posted by: Toonces at April 13, 2010 01:40 PM (tcMQZ)
They are simply replacing it with a more modern facility.
That's just crazy talk. The next thing you'll tell me is that the Russians have a whole millenium of imperialist behavior as a track record or something.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 13, 2010 01:40 PM (B+qrE)
I'm tired of the posters and commenters here denigrating our fearless leader. Obama is all substance, all the time. I detect a little jealously in some of what is written here. It makes me sad.
Yup, Obama is like EF Hutton. When he speaks, everyone listens! I'm so jealous that he is heard so much better than me!
Posted by: Mayor of Whoville at April 13, 2010 01:40 PM (CfmlF)
@11: "You racist teabaggers all act as if it's not important to bow and scrape to our betters! These people pay for the free health care that I just gave you!"
That post is obviously a sock puppet and not from Me. Every motherfucker up in this bitch knows that I have no betters.
Rahm! Tell that cracker Biden to get in here so I can snort a rail off his ass.
What the....
Is the stupid speech to text shit still running?
Posted by: Barack Obama at April 13, 2010 01:41 PM (kmEfr)
What have ANY of you people done to prevent nuclear proliferation today?
I had some excellent carnitas at lunch, and took a little nap at my desk. BOOM! No nukes!
Posted by: Dang Straights at April 13, 2010 01:41 PM (fx8sm)
I have to disagree. We are still living with the bane of bunny's jackass mistakes and we will be doing that with this poltroon's (Obama) for the foreseeable future. The summit is really about giving him something to point to as an accomplishment to offset his miserable failure when Iran goes nuclear.
Posted by: pep at April 13, 2010 01:41 PM (0K3p3)
Posted by: maddogg at April 13, 2010 01:41 PM (OlN4e)
I'm tired of the posters and commenters here denigrating our fearless leader. Obama is all substance, all the time. I detect a little jealously in some of what is written here. It makes me sad.
I'm sorry Spank. I don't know what came over me. It's this fucking blog. Damn you, Ace!
Posted by: Soona' at April 13, 2010 01:42 PM (AfINV)
The Precedent used the phrase "change the calculus" in an utterly meaningless fashion.
I was told that there would be no math...
Posted by: Barry O'Prompter at April 13, 2010 01:42 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 13, 2010 01:42 PM (f9c2L)
AOSHQ is influencing the Obama admin ( insert smiley icon here )
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 13, 2010 01:42 PM (JrRME)
Huh. The DoE has the usual stuff on their website about "diversity recruiting", but I'm not seeing Religion or Region of Peace here.
S'pose they can pay the LaRaza recruits to help 'em out.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 13, 2010 01:42 PM (mR7mk)
Posted by: Kaitian at April 13, 2010 01:43 PM (fjYGK)
Posted by: WalrusRex at April 13, 2010 01:43 PM (xxgag)
Yeah, somehow guys like him never seem to make it into the real classes. Sort of like all his blather about "optics". Dude, you wouldn't know optics from okra.
Posted by: pep at April 13, 2010 01:44 PM (0K3p3)
Katie Couric was practically orgasmic about this this morning and that was before the nothing happened.
Is she anchoring on Home Shopping Newtork yet?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 13, 2010 01:44 PM (B+qrE)
Posted by: dagny at April 13, 2010 01:48 PM (k+Aa0)
How are his fellow jihadi going to make all those dirty bombs if we lock all that stuff up in a sealed cavern?
Huh. The DoE has the usual stuff on their website about "diversity recruiting", but I'm not seeing Religion or Region of Peace here.
S'pose they can pay the LaRaza recruits to help 'em out.
Undocumented Mexican workers: Assembling the dirty bombs muzzies won't do.
Posted by: Barry O'Prompter at April 13, 2010 01:48 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: Kaitian at April 13, 2010 01:48 PM (fjYGK)
At the rate his foreign policy efforts are going, the yield will by measured in kilotons or larger, and it'll be on our soil.
This business will get out of hand; it will get out of hand, and we'll be lucky to live through it.
Posted by: Keith Arnold at April 13, 2010 01:50 PM (Jdtsu)
He's got his summits mixed up. He thought he was touting ObamaCare at the dentist's convention for a few minutes rather than the Obama Nuclear Doctrine-apalooza.
I wonder if you saw that picture from earlier today, of Obama wagging his finger at Stephen Harper about his teeth. The thing is, if Harper doesn't floss more he will not be able to change the calculus.
Posted by: Albus at April 13, 2010 01:50 PM (sZNYc)
What waste?
Clean 'green' energy has no waste. That's the beauty of it. Wow you Teabaggers are stoopid.
Posted by: Mr Peabody at April 13, 2010 01:50 PM (uFokq)
@34: "You guys ever watch or study Huey P. Long? The tactics we are seeing are very similar."
The Kingfish? Really? You're making that comparison? Gonna suggest that I head on down to the Mystic Knights of the Sea lodge, too? Racist.
Posted by: Barack Obama at April 13, 2010 01:51 PM (kmEfr)
Question: If yucca comes up again as an issue conveniently before Hairy Reed's election, could he still win?
Posted by: dagny at April 13, 2010 01:51 PM (k+Aa0)
Posted by: Dave Bing at April 13, 2010 01:52 PM (mR7mk)
Posted by: dagny at April 13, 2010 01:54 PM (k+Aa0)
He was just acknowledging his orders to cough up the vig; or that neat little nearby Chinese island we like so much might get its knee caps broken.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at April 13, 2010 01:54 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Kaitian at April 13, 2010 01:54 PM (fjYGK)
"change the calculus"
Hey, does anyone here think it would be possible to take Obama's quirky speech patterns and use them in aggregate to figure out where he or his speech writers get their info from, or atleast what they are reading?
Change the calculus is not a terribly common phrase and in a quickie Google search I can't readily find many references before April 2009. Almost all of them are hard left conspiracy sites.
Odd
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 01:56 PM (F09Uo)
Posted by: TexasJew at April 13, 2010 01:56 PM (MN33D)
He has been arrested and now faces a court martial, where, one presumes, his defense will be that Barack Obama was not born in the United States and is thus, not a legitimate civilian commander in chief.
One presumes he'll be allowed to offer that defense and that the prosecutor will have to prove that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.
So, one presumes there will be some discovery required and some people will have to be put under oath to tell what they know.
Posted by: someguy at April 13, 2010 01:59 PM (VRJIW)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at April 13, 2010 02:05 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: K~Bob at April 13, 2010 02:05 PM (9b6FB)
O/T Boing Boing notes that a unicorn taxidermy is being auctioned today in Dorset. Is that where Ace is?
Posted by: Atomic Roach at April 13, 2010 02:05 PM (Oxen1)
Posted by: Kaitian at April 13, 2010 05:54 PM (fjYGK)
I'm not disagreeing but this was a campaign promise to Hairy. Why would you make such a big promise when it was such an important thing? Pure libtard stupidity.
Posted by: dagny at April 13, 2010 02:05 PM (k+Aa0)
That's an excellent idea. The Indonesian Imbecile always struck me very much like those marxist drones who can't think their way out of a wet paper bag, but have the marxist schpeil down pat if you happen onto any of their pet interests - latin Amerca, capitalism, ... They still don't know what they're talking about, but they deliver the drivel pretty well, for a little while, at least. This was the impression I had of the Indonesian Imbecile from the first few times I heard him speak - that and he also reminded me of foreign friends I have who spent some early time in the US and speak English without any discernible accent, but, given enough time it becomes apparent that English is not their mother tongue, as they have no concept of the proper use of idiomatic expressions and mess up their prepositions in the strangest instances. Just like the Indonesian Imbecile.
I'd like to see his abuse of English analyzed and categorized. Jack Cashill didn't get very far doing that with his ghost-written book(s) but it couldn't hurt to expand the investigation. Americans don't make mistakes like claiming that there are 57 states. Americans confuse 50 and 52, but never 57. Stuff like that, which I find very telling.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 13, 2010 02:06 PM (N49h9)
Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 13, 2010 02:08 PM (N49h9)
Stop trashing Obama on this nuclear stuff. This man is only doing what Ronald Reagan himself did, and he doesn't need to listen to you any more than he needs advice from self-styled nuclear expert Sarah Palin. The best thing the Republicans can do here is sit down, shut up, and throw their full support behind the START treaty. It can only help the GOP later.
I'm here to help.
Posted by: Dianne & Brian & Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice at April 13, 2010 02:12 PM (0fPOP)
Hey! That's my hash you've got there!
Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 13, 2010 02:14 PM (N49h9)
Dianne & Brian & Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice at April 13, 2010 06:12 PM (0fPOP)
Careful there. Punching down that far, you might graze a testicle with a knuckle. And that shit hurts!
Posted by: someguy at April 13, 2010 02:14 PM (P33XN)
My name is Legion: for we are many.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at April 13, 2010 02:16 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Peter Jennings at April 13, 2010 02:18 PM (8QmEC)
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at April 13, 2010 02:18 PM (c0A3e)
Oh! Hen hoa. Eh-de an. Oh! Ching nee how. Ching nee woa-du go. Woa-du go i nee.
Shing zi nee chu Walmart. Hau bu hau?
Posted by: robotgossip at April 13, 2010 02:18 PM (EiH7n)
Posted by: t-bird at April 13, 2010 02:20 PM (hjAze)
Odd
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 05:56 PM (F09Uo)
bing comes up with 6,400,000 results for "change the calculus" (quoted phrase). It's not as unusual as you think - especially among people who like to sound highfalutin'.
Posted by: stuiec at April 13, 2010 02:20 PM (7AOgy)
Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 13, 2010 06:06 PM (N49h9)
Yeah, that's another 'odd' example of things Obama says. I really think if some one or some group would take the time to run this stuff down, you could then use it as a predictive indicator of an Obamaesque rebuttal or talking point.
If you could take it a step further, you/we/our side could float trial balloons, and when the lefty sites get a hold of those trial balloons, and rebut them, we could then alter the official policy stance to pre-negate many of those exceptions that then would force them to make use of their second and third tier 'best arguments'. Ultimately that would put them at a disadvantage in the greater war of ideas.
I think.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 02:20 PM (F09Uo)
Posted by: Boots at April 13, 2010 02:21 PM (06JTY)
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at April 13, 2010 06:18 PM (c0A3e)
I'm glad he didn't attend because I agree with you that that's exactly what would have happened. Obama is on a non-stop mission to embarrass Bibi and back Israel into a corner. Obama's trying to make Israel the bad guy in the eyes of the world. Obama can go fuck himself with a muslim prayer tower.
Posted by: conscious and on the side of Israel at April 13, 2010 02:22 PM (YVZlY)
Odd
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 05:56 PM (F09Uo)
bing comes up with 6,400,000 results for "change the calculus" (quoted phrase). It's not as unusual as you think - especially among people who like to sound highfalutin'.
Posted by: stuiec at April 13, 2010 06:20 PM (7AOgy)
I used advanced Google search, then sorted by date over the last year, and then omitted the duplicate or redundant citations. It cut down on the info clutter quite a bit.
I could have gone back further, but I was only doing the quick and dirty.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 02:23 PM (F09Uo)
Posted by: robotgossip at April 13, 2010 02:23 PM (EiH7n)
Posted by: t-bird at April 13, 2010 06:20 PM (hjAze)
What do you mean, "next"? There are already American hostages in Iran.
Iran is claiming that three American backpackers who were captured last week after they crossed the border from Iraq are CIA agents.
Tehran-based television news channel al-Alam quoted an Iraqi police officer as saying the trio were “working with the CIA.” NBC News reported that the Swiss Embassy in Tehran was working to learn more about the Americans' fate through its contacts with the Iranian Foreign Ministry. The U.S. has not had diplomatic ties with Iran since the 1979 hostage crisis and revolution.
Posted by: stuiec at April 13, 2010 02:24 PM (7AOgy)
Of course. That damned Joo (Djou?) Bibi pissed on the birthday cake by canceling his trip. The uranium shell-game was Plan B.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 13, 2010 02:24 PM (VY5KX)
I used advanced Google search, then sorted by date over the last year, and then omitted the duplicate or redundant citations. It cut down on the info clutter quite a bit.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 06:23 PM (F09Uo)
Well, that would have changed my calculus.
Posted by: stuiec at April 13, 2010 02:25 PM (7AOgy)
Posted by: robotgossip at April 13, 2010 02:26 PM (EiH7n)
OK.... now... let me get this straight...
We PAY to ship Chile's, Canada's, and some other coutnries UNUSED nuclear material to the US... PAY to guard it... while not being able to reprocess it due to Fed Law...
And have no secure place to store it because they defunded Yucca...
And this is a GOOD Thing???
/shakes his head and wanders off muttering...
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 13, 2010 02:26 PM (OlHjR)
Posted by: Boots at April 13, 2010 06:21 PM (06JTY)
Note that the Chinese officials never bow to him - you'd think that if he was doing it to respect their custom, they'd be following their own custom.
Posted by: stuiec at April 13, 2010 02:26 PM (7AOgy)
Naw. It's the new "take it to the next level".
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 13, 2010 02:27 PM (VY5KX)
Posted by: robotgossip at April 13, 2010 02:28 PM (EiH7n)
Q: What is the first deriviative of "57" - Barry's favorite number?
The answer is his IQ.
Posted by: TexasJew at April 13, 2010 05:59 PM (MN33D)
No, the answer is ketchup.
Posted by: stuiec at April 13, 2010 02:28 PM (7AOgy)
Posted by: robotgossip at April 13, 2010 06:28 PM (EiH7n)
As the MAD magazine parody "201 Minutes of Space Idiocy" said, "I learned that in space, you don't throw up, you throw OUT!"
Posted by: stuiec at April 13, 2010 02:30 PM (7AOgy)
Let's plant a tree and see if a dog pisses on it.
Hey, remember the 80's?!?!
Hey, remember the AoS post about lame corporate cliches? It was funny.
Posted by: Speed Buggy at April 13, 2010 02:30 PM (uFokq)
I used to post little lists, every so often, of the Indonesian's odd abuse of English during the campaign, when I was commenting at HotAir and trying to explain to people how the imbecile had no American sensibilities, whatsoever. I'll try to run them down.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 13, 2010 02:32 PM (N49h9)
File this under the "No Shit Sherlock" category
Groups like al Qaeda are working hard to acquire nuclear weapons, and "if they ever succeed, they would surely use it," President Barack Obama said while speaking to more than 40 world leaders Tuesday.
Posted by: conscious and on the side of Israel at April 13, 2010 02:33 PM (YVZlY)
Well, that would have changed my calculus.
Posted by: stuiec at April 13, 2010 06:25 PM (7AOgy)
Really, if we find out what where their main conduits of day-to-day thought are, we could then send a ninja team of concern trolls, unity trolls, and purity trolls and general hand wringers simply to dilute the consensus, leaving them no clear idealogical path. That would also work for chunks of the media by decreasing their idealogical signal to noise ratio.
I think.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 02:35 PM (F09Uo)
Posted by: Kaitian at April 13, 2010 06:28 PM (fjYGK)
Calculus... dey keepa usin dat word... I don't think it means what dey tinka it means...
Signed Isaac Newton channeling Inigo Montoya... with a little Chico Marx thrown in...
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 13, 2010 02:35 PM (OlHjR)
So the word "terrorism" can be used when it comes to terrorists getting nukes. But anything short of nukes is not terrorism?
Is that about right? Or are the words "terrorism and terrorist" back in play now?
Only when referring to Tea Partiers.
Posted by: katya at April 13, 2010 02:35 PM (A8v3R)
Posted by: KilltheHippies at April 13, 2010 02:36 PM (VKfXw)
Apparently Obama's notoriously thin skin doesn't render him transparent. From WaPo:
World leaders arriving in Washington for President Obama's Nuclear Security Summit must have felt for a moment that they had instead been transported to Soviet-era Moscow.
They entered a capital that had become a military encampment, with camo-wearing military police in Humvees and enough Army vehicles to make it look like a May Day parade on New York Avenue, where a bicyclist was killed Monday by a National Guard truck.
In the middle of it all was Obama -- occupant of an office once informally known as "leader of the free world" -- putting on a clinic for some of the world's greatest dictators in how to circumvent a free press.
The only part of the summit, other than a post-meeting news conference, that was visible to the public was Obama's eight-minute opening statement, which ended with the words: "I'm going to ask that we take a few moments to allow the press to exit before our first session."
Reporters for foreign outlets, many operating in repressive countries, got the impression that the vaunted American freedoms are not all they're cracked up to be.
Yasmeen Alamiri from the Saudi Press Agency got this lesson in press freedom when trying to cover Obama's opening remarks as part of a limited press "pool": "The foreign reporters/cameramen were escorted out in under two minutes, just as the leaders were about to begin, and Obama was going to make remarks. . . . Sorry, it is what it is."
Alamiri's counterparts from around the world had similar experiences. Arabic-language MBC TV's Nadia Bilbassy had this to say of Obama's meeting with the Jordanian king: "We were there for around 30 seconds, not enough even to notice the color of tie of both presidents. I think blue for the king."
Lalit K. Jha of the Press Trust of India, at Obama's meeting with the Pakistani prime minister, reported, "In less than a minute, the pool was asked to leave." The Yomiuri Shimbun correspondent found that she was "ushered out about 30 seconds" after arriving for Obama's meeting with the Malaysian prime minister. Emel Bayrak of Turkey's TRT-Turk went to Obama's meeting with the president of Armenia but "we had to leave the room again after less than 40 seconds."
"When you only see the president for 15 or 20 seconds without him asking if you have any questions, it's very frustrating," said Laura Haim of France's Canal+, which persuaded the White House to include foreign outlets in the press pool. "It's very important for this president, who wants to restore the image of the United States, to have more access."
Posted by: runningrn at April 13, 2010 02:36 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: Big Daddy at April 13, 2010 02:37 PM (5+uDz)
Could be like the stimulus dollars, the nuke explosions will go where they are the moSt needed.
Posted by: robotgossip at April 13, 2010 02:37 PM (EiH7n)
Posted by: Warden at April 13, 2010 02:37 PM (QoR4a)
Posted by: sherlock at April 13, 2010 02:38 PM (ZrS0c)
"there are no nuclear facilities in Nevada, so why should the shit from other places get stored there?"
How about because you have some empty mountains no one is using?
But how about we just store it there temporarily until we get all the oil out of the Alaskan wildlife refuge wasteland, then stick it there to keep the Caribu nice and warm?
Posted by: Randy at April 13, 2010 02:39 PM (zQKSr)
"It's very important for this president, who wants to restore the image of the United States, to have more access."
ahhahaha, that's funny for so many reasons
Posted by: Speed Buggy at April 13, 2010 02:39 PM (uFokq)
Groups like al Qaeda are working hard to acquire nuclear weapons, and "if they ever succeed, they would surely use it," President Barack Obama said while speaking to more than 40 world leaders Tuesday.
In other Revelations The Wonderful Obama proclaimed the sun would set, and so it did, and it was good.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at April 13, 2010 02:41 PM (0q2P7)
I used to post little lists, every so often, of the Indonesian's odd abuse of English during the campaign, when I was commenting at HotAir and trying to explain to people how the imbecile had no American sensibilities, whatsoever. I'll try to run them down.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 13, 2010 06:32 PM (N49h9)
That would be interesting, but it might only tell us where he learned his formative basis of English. I imagine you are right, and it does give us further insight of his 'odd' view of the United States. The bastard has the thought process of many socially elite third-worlders.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 02:42 PM (F09Uo)
Posted by: logprof at April 13, 2010 02:43 PM (Mmw0q)
Posted by: KilltheHippies at April 13, 2010 06:36 PM (VKfXw)
Riiiiight. Because all those atomic tests in the Nevada desert NEVER HAPPENED.
Posted by: stuiec at April 13, 2010 02:44 PM (7AOgy)
One wonders what questions the press would ask President Community Organizer if given the chance.
"Are you still enchanted?"
"How tall are you, Mr Obama?"
"Is all the hate towards you a distraction?"
"How big are Michelle's biceps?"
Posted by: Speed Buggy at April 13, 2010 02:44 PM (uFokq)
is 'change the calculus' the new 'paradigm shift'?
Posted by: sumyungguy at April 13, 2010 06:25 PM (uFokq)
Calculus, tartar, dentin and gums.
He want's to make a good impression.
Posted by: K~Bob at April 13, 2010 02:44 PM (9b6FB)
Posted by: logprof at April 13, 2010 02:45 PM (Mmw0q)
Posted by: dananjcon at April 13, 2010 02:45 PM (ZRmtl)
Posted by: K~Bob at April 13, 2010 02:46 PM (9b6FB)
In the middle of it all was Obama -- occupant of an office once informally known as "leader of the free world" -- putting on a clinic for some of the world's greatest dictators in how to circumvent a free press.
The only part of the summit, other than a post-meeting news conference, that was visible to the public was Obama's eight-minute opening statement, which ended with the words: "I'm going to ask that we take a few moments to allow the press to exit before our first session."
Reporters for foreign outlets, many operating in repressive countries, got the impression that the vaunted American freedoms are not all they're cracked up to be.
Yes, yes, this is all part of the important steps he's taken to improve our democracy. Because we all know that a free press just confuses the voters.
Posted by: stuiec at April 13, 2010 02:46 PM (7AOgy)
Posted by: Speed Buggy at April 13, 2010 06:44 PM (uFokq)
FIFY
Posted by: conscious and on the side of Israel at April 13, 2010 02:47 PM (YVZlY)
Exciting facts about Yucca Mountain:
It neighbors the Nevada Test and Training Range and the Nevada Test Site. The Nevada Test Site was home to 904 atomic bomb tests between 1945 and 1992.
What the heck else would we do with that area BUT store nuclear waste there?
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 02:48 PM (F09Uo)
The summit is the photo-op for the bigwigs - especially since so many are involved. If you want a real meeting of the heads to get anything done, keep the attendance down to four heads at most.
The real work will be done by the anonymous bureaucrats and workers who actually will work out the agreements for the heads to agree to and will then be those to try and get the job done.
Such as it was, such it will always be, world without end, amen.
Posted by: Mikey NTH at April 13, 2010 02:50 PM (nlRuk)
Wouldn't you like to know...
Posted by: Big Sis Napolitano at April 13, 2010 02:50 PM (0fPOP)
Wouldn't you like to know...
Posted by: Big Sis Napolitano at April 13, 2010 06:50 PM (0fPOP)
I would also use it as a condemned prisoner repository. That would be pretty cool.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 02:53 PM (F09Uo)
Posted by: conscious and hates those funeral protesters at April 13, 2010 02:53 PM (YVZlY)
"Teachers fought off three armed illegal immigrants who were trying to sneak on to a school bus returning to Britain from France."
Proving yet again, if'n yer not Scootish, yer crap!
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at April 13, 2010 02:54 PM (o8Qz0)
O/T: Hey, just coined a new word for the kind of people who would be TEA party crashers, "meatspace mobies."
There is no "off" position on the genius switch.
Posted by: rdbrewer at April 13, 2010 02:55 PM (djPcO)
One wonders what questions the press would ask President Community Organizer if given the chance.
"Are you still enchanted?"
"How tall are you, Mr Obama?"
"Is all the hate towards you a distraction?"
"How big are Michelle's biceps?"
Posted by: Speed Buggy at April 13, 2010 06:44 PM (uFokq)
Nah, this was including the foreign press. They're not nearly as enamored with the president as the american press is which are currently arguing about who gets to wear the kneepads next in order to blow captain wonderful. Allowing the foreign press to ask him a question might result in one that is actually difficult.
Posted by: buzzion at April 13, 2010 02:56 PM (oVQFe)
They're not nearly as enamored with the president as the american press is
Never thought I'd hear myself say I go to the UK for my unbiased news.
Posted by: rdbrewer at April 13, 2010 02:58 PM (djPcO)
Posted by: KilltheHippies at April 13, 2010 02:59 PM (VKfXw)
So, the outcome of the Big Meeting is....another meeting. Classic.
*ahem*
Another meeting with free cocktails.
Posted by: Useless Fatass Diplomat at April 13, 2010 03:00 PM (QoR4a)
Posted by: KilltheHippies at April 13, 2010 03:01 PM (VKfXw)
Without his trusty teleprompter, every response goes something like this: "umm... well... this is .... um... umm... you know..... err... um.... unprecedented....um.... "
Oh yeah, and it goes on for 17 or so minutes.
No style.
No substance.
Thanks 52%
Posted by: shibumi at April 13, 2010 03:01 PM (OKZrE)
it's not your area to deal with. you don't live there. put the shit in your backyard if it's no big deal. store it in your basement, what else are you going to do with that area?
jeez, extreme stupidity like this is what gives morons a bad name.
Posted by: KilltheHippies at April 13, 2010 07:01 PM (VKfXw)
DUDE! It's like already like TOTALLY contaminated. Ya know?
Besides, in California, we like don't have basements. Hello!
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 03:04 PM (F09Uo)
#30 Kaitian:
I do not know, but I will guess that Canada's HEU will go to where ever the DoD stores nuclear waste from decommissioned surface ships, submarines, waste from refueling commissioned ships, and decommissioned nuclear warheads. Storage costs should be minimal (as that stuff has to be stored any how) - transport costs would be the big amount.
Posted by: Mikey NTH at April 13, 2010 03:05 PM (nlRuk)
Just in time for the Shepster. Kill me now.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 03:05 PM (UOM48)
You need the Blade of Olympus for that, Mrs. D'oh? I can lend it to you...
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at April 13, 2010 03:06 PM (c0A3e)
Unfortunately, ten years hasn't proven enough to teach people in Palm Beach how to punch a ballot, so look for returns to start coming in sometime in 2020.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 13, 2010 03:09 PM (0fPOP)
"Obama Grins, Looks Cool: Press Collectively Starches its Shorts"
There's yer headline, right there.
Posted by: AP Knob Gobbler at April 13, 2010 03:10 PM (3sB5l)
Posted by: rdbrewer at April 13, 2010 03:10 PM (djPcO)
Posted by: someguy at April 13, 2010 03:11 PM (P33XN)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 03:11 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: KilltheHippies at April 13, 2010 03:11 PM (VKfXw)
Posted by: dagny at April 13, 2010 03:11 PM (k+Aa0)
Posted by: rdbrewer at April 13, 2010 03:11 PM (djPcO)
Sorry, I'm more of a melee fighter. Ask UncleFacts - he's an expert at raining down destruction.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at April 13, 2010 03:11 PM (c0A3e)
At least President Obama has learned to pronounce nukular(sic) correctly unlike George Bush, The Impaler.
Posted by: Fish at April 13, 2010 03:12 PM (M5t+h)
Stand around in the FoxNews parking lot at 8 pm ET and Shep might oblige you himself!
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 13, 2010 03:12 PM (0fPOP)
Posted by: Massachusetts at April 13, 2010 03:13 PM (4Kl5M)
Posted by: rdbrewer at April 13, 2010 07:11 PM (djPcO)
mhmm buncha tanned North Eastern retirees. and no, we don't want them back.
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at April 13, 2010 03:13 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 03:13 PM (UOM48)
http://bit.ly/b7lQBo
You import power. Now you can import waste.
Northern Nevada: Where Does Your Power Come From?
NV Energy generates electricity at its own power plants in northern Nevada and imports electricity from out-of-state sources. During 2006, for example, the company's Valmy, Tracy and Fort Churchill power stations produced about 43 percent of the electricity...
The rest was generated by other power producers and delivered to NV
Energy over high voltage transmission lines. Much of it is imported from
the Pacific Northwest...
Southern Nevada: Where Does Your Power Come From?
NV Energy generates electricity at its own power plants in southern Nevada and imports electricity from out-of-state sources.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at April 13, 2010 03:14 PM (0q2P7)
Take the Waste! Sounds like a good bumper sticker. Senator Geary should have one on his limo.
btw did 'The Hills Have Eyes' take place in Nevada?
Posted by: Schneider at April 13, 2010 03:14 PM (0QJjg)
Iran will join the global nuclear club within one month, according to the deputy research chief of the Islamic republicÂ’s Atomic Energy of Iran (AEOI).
In the end, there will be only chaos.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at April 13, 2010 03:15 PM (c0A3e)
"Of course I did Saul. Hundreds of times."
Saul is delighted. "Why did you never say so?"
Miriam replies, "You were never there!"
Posted by: Klesmer at April 13, 2010 03:15 PM (7iill)
BREAKOUT SESSIONS, people. Think of the marvels that were accomplished.
Posted by: buster mcdissenter at April 13, 2010 03:15 PM (OiHda)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2010 03:15 PM (P33XN)
Seems fair to me. Nevada's been exporting its waste to America for 25 years now; they should be able to take some of ours in return.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 13, 2010 03:15 PM (0fPOP)
BREAKOUT SESSIONS, people. Think of the marvels that were accomplished.
I was hoping for makeout sessions.
Posted by: Schneider at April 13, 2010 03:16 PM (0QJjg)
Dude, we are ALL sending your state enough atomic waste to turn EVERYONE into Spiderman about 10 gazillion times over. You know how insanely awesome that would be if everyone in your state was Spiderman? It would RAWK! Like TOTALLY!
Be more appreciative.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 03:16 PM (F09Uo)
Posted by: KilltheHippies at April 13, 2010 03:16 PM (VKfXw)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 03:16 PM (UOM48)
Dude, we are ALL sending your state enough atomic waste to turn EVERYONE into Spiderman about 10 gazillion times over. You know how insanely awesome that would be if everyone in your state was Spiderman? It would RAWK! Like TOTALLY!
Don't you mean the Toxic Avenger?
Posted by: Schneider at April 13, 2010 03:17 PM (0QJjg)
btw did 'The Hills Have Eyes' take place in Nevada?
Yeah, so?
Actually, I heard they were immigrants from Southern California.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2010 03:18 PM (P33XN)
At least President Obama has learned to pronounce nukular(sic) correctly unlike George Bush, The Impaler.
Posted by: Fish at April 13, 2010 07:12 PM (M5t+h)
corpsemen
Thanks for playing.
Posted by: Warden at April 13, 2010 03:18 PM (QoR4a)
Posted by: Dr. Spank at April 13, 2010 03:19 PM (I1/U/)
Palm Beach can't figure out how to get geezers out from behind the wheels of their Cadillacs and Lincolns.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 07:11 PM (UOM4
Oh Jane it's easy to extract the white hairs from their Cadillac's. After happy hour or a visit to the Early Bird Special and after consuming three martini's, you simply use the Jaws of Life.
PS I'm a white hair who threatens to take away their keys and call their mother if they don't behave. Works most of the time. The other times, fuck 'um!
Posted by: Fish at April 13, 2010 03:19 PM (M5t+h)
ah someguy, your mom let you out of the basement again?
Lol. That was me with a sockpuppet. But someguy deserves the shit anyway.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2010 03:19 PM (P33XN)
Look, I have to do the bowing thing.
Sure I'd like to do a little submissive pee on the carpet, but my man Gibbs swears there's no way to spin Michelle bursting through the door screaming
"Come and get it!"
Posted by: B. Jonah Obama at April 13, 2010 03:20 PM (9fQcn)
Posted by: KilltheHippies at April 13, 2010 03:20 PM (VKfXw)
Little known fact: Harry Reid, Lou Reed, and Jerry Reed are brothers.
Posted by: Schneider at April 13, 2010 07:01 PM (0QJjg)
Not so.
But Harry Reid is what's inside the Tara Reid full-body costume. (Ever see them in the same place at the same time?)
Posted by: stuiec at April 13, 2010 03:21 PM (7AOgy)
Sorry, that doesn't work. Harry Reid's been elected on a statewide ballot every six years since 1986. If the majority of his vote is coming from Vegas, that just means the rest of you aren't doing enough to counter Vegas. 'Cause it can be done.
Take responsibility for the crap you export and get rid of him THIS year. We don't wanna hear "but Clark County did it."
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 13, 2010 03:22 PM (0fPOP)
Posted by: KilltheHippies at April 13, 2010 03:22 PM (VKfXw)
Ace has put out 10 posts since the 9th (5 days), 6 which were yesterday. Is he interested in blogging anymore or does he want to do something else?
It seems like ever since Hot Air was sold for big bucks, Ace has been rather sporadic with the posts. Some days we get tons and other days, nothing. Maybe he's pounding the pavement looking for a buyer.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2010 03:22 PM (P33XN)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 07:19 PM (UOM4
It's scary when you can't tell the difference anymore.
Posted by: Warden at April 13, 2010 03:22 PM (QoR4a)
Posted by: KilltheHippies at April 13, 2010 07:20 PM (VKfXw)
Are you saying you don't WANT to be Spiderman?
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 03:22 PM (F09Uo)
In-laws? Late 80's, drive like maniacs, multiple crashes, etc. Still driving. And none of their 5 grown children seem willing to do a damned thing about it. (I'm looking at you, too, D'oh.) Oh, but they're libs. 'Nuff said.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 03:23 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Sen. Peter Parker (D-NV) at April 13, 2010 03:23 PM (0fPOP)
-------------
What he actually said was:
- He'd been to 57 states so far
- One left to go
- They wouldn't let him go to Hawaii and Alaska, of course
Which implies he thought there were 60 states instead of 50.
Posted by: Pedantically Pedantic Pedant at April 13, 2010 03:24 PM (3K4hn)
Progressoverpeace, et al: actually "change the calculus" is a long-used term, among academics, at least.
45,600 google hits for the term. Some go back to 2002, but then again those are Internets Thingy citations, which perforce are recent. I suspect you'll find the phrase in the OECD.
It's a bit arcane, but less clunky than the old Soviet "change in the correlation of forces".
"Optics" seems to be in vogue right now among journos, meaning "appearances", or "how things superficially look". Even Chas. Krauthammer uses it.
Posted by: effinayright at April 13, 2010 03:24 PM (3sB5l)
"The U.S. Consulate in Nuevo Laredo, Mexico, has closed indefinitely after somebody hurled an explosive device over a fence, officials said."
&
" The Mexican military seized improvised explosive devices just miles from the Valley. The IEDs (or roadside bombs) are the same weapons terrorists use in the Middle East."
Um ... I'm detecting some kind of pattern here.
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at April 13, 2010 03:25 PM (o8Qz0)
Could that work? Could we just tell Nevada, "Take out Harry and we'll talk about Yucca?"
I could go for that. Or just dump the waste in Searchlight. Or take Harry Reid and seal him up in Yucca Mountain.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2010 03:26 PM (P33XN)
Posted by: Sen. Peter Parker (D-NV) at April 13, 2010 07:23 PM (0fPOP)
Dude! Move to California and we'll SO make you the Governor.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 03:27 PM (F09Uo)
"Teachers fought off three armed illegal immigrants who were trying to sneak on to a school bus returning to Britain from France."
Proving yet again, if'n yer not Scootish, yer crap!
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at April 13, 2010 06:54 PM (o8Qz0)
On the other hand, if the illegal immigrants had been wearing sheep disguises, they probably would have been welcomed aboard with open arms.
Posted by: stuiec at April 13, 2010 03:27 PM (7AOgy)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 03:27 PM (UOM48)
Detox may take up to 10 days in severe cases.
Posted by: Barbarian at April 13, 2010 03:28 PM (EL+OC)
Could it be that people from the Middle East wanting passage into America by illegal means might be trading IEDs (or the training to make them) to the drug cartels in Mexico for said passage?
Naw, thatÂ’s too paranoid for even me.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 13, 2010 03:28 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 13, 2010 03:28 PM (ucxC/)
Which includes filling nice hole somewhere in Nevada with glowy goo.
why not dump it in Mexico? Some of it (Expended Cores) still contain fissile fuel dumbass!
should states that import power have waste from the coal-fired plants and coal mines shipped in, or should it be taken care of where it occurs.
It should be taken care of in the best manner possible. Guess what? You benefit from nuclear power. It is best for a lot of reasons that the storage of waste be centralized in a low population area, which means some state has to suck up the waste. If you don't have resources to power yourself, this seems like a nice way to contribute, esp since your economy is so dependent on all those neat bright lights you can't power.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at April 13, 2010 03:29 PM (0q2P7)
Jane, my father drove and well I might add until two weeks prior to his death at 94. The year before, he was driving me to the airport early morning and I noted he wasn't wearing his glasses. He was using the side mirrors and rear view very effectively and signaling lane changes.
Prior to reaching the airport, I asked about his glasses and he stated, "don't need glasses for driving, only for reading liberal media to understand the enemy."
Posted by: Fish at April 13, 2010 03:30 PM (M5t+h)
If'n you rub two sticks together fast enough you can also haz fire to cook with.
Posted by: Barbarian at April 13, 2010 03:31 PM (EL+OC)
o/t: Colorado Senator Michael Bennet(D) is campaigning on out of control Washington spending. LOLOLOL!
http://tinyurl.com/y2j8egj
He voted for Stimulus and Health Care "reform", and every other tax and spend measure.
Democrats are such lying hacks. No shame! 'Vote for me, I'm a moderate... but when I get to Washington I'll stab you in the back and vote with Nancy Pelosi every. damn. time.
If voters are this stupid, I give up.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 13, 2010 03:31 PM (0fzsA)
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 13, 2010 03:31 PM (0fPOP)
206 Ace has put out 10 posts since the 9th (5 days), 6 which were yesterday. Is he interested in blogging anymore or does he want to do something else?
This one's easy: he's been sobbing into his pillow contemplating just how much Michelle Malkin, Breitbart and Drudge are raking in, where all he has is destitute morons & moronettes, a backyard of half-buried hobo carcasses, and an empty tip jar
The buzz is, he and Cahrles are thinking about making a cross-country bike trip together, for Breast Cancer awareness.
Posted by: effinayright at April 13, 2010 03:31 PM (3sB5l)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 13, 2010 03:32 PM (x9eKA)
I mean I guess we could export it to the mid-east directly instead of through Mexico. They would probably take it for free. In fact they might pay us!
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at April 13, 2010 03:33 PM (0q2P7)
There was an article in the paper today about three Mexican cartels joining together to destroy Los Zetas.
Expect fireworks. Big fireworks.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2010 03:34 PM (P33XN)
My late dad was an Air Force test pilot for many years. In his mid-70's, he had suffered a mild stroke. He was driving into the country to visit a friend and was lost for a bit. He came home and told my mom he would never, ever, drive out of their small town again. He died from a fall, and blow to his head, three months later. He was 76.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 03:34 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Fish at April 13, 2010 03:35 PM (M5t+h)
Bennet is an example of cronyism in action. I think the Denver Public Schools are still trying to recover from his tenure there as Superintendent. I canÂ’t believe the people of Colorado voted for him for Senate, and they definitely deserve whatever they get for doing so.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 13, 2010 03:35 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 07:27 PM (UOM4
In all honesty, I don't know of one person in the real world that does not have TiVO or a cable company DVR box. OK, I take that back. I know one person that does not have a set top DVR. Get one Jane, they completely change the way you watch TV. While you are at it, get at least a 50" plasma screen too. Anything less is completely barbaric.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 03:35 PM (F09Uo)
Yeah, I guess you are right Mr. Undead, the Mexican cartels are a scary bunch all on their own. I actually donÂ’t see how they would play well for long with the Islamic terrorists actually.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 13, 2010 03:37 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2010 03:37 PM (P33XN)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 03:38 PM (UOM48)
50" plasma screen too. Anything less is completely barbaric.
IÂ’m fairly certain the Obama administration will be subsidizing these for Americans soon.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 13, 2010 03:39 PM (RZ8pf)
There was an article in the paper today about three Mexican cartels joining together to destroy Los Zetas.
Expect fireworks. Big fireworks.
Posted by: Dack ThrombosisGood catch. Stratfor article.
I've been convinced for a while that the US will deploy troops to MX before we ever consider hitting Iran.
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at April 13, 2010 03:39 PM (o8Qz0)
In that kind of war I'd root for the cartels. At least they're, um, businessmen. Kinda. Well, they're not driven by religious fanaticism so much as money?
Posted by: wherestherum at April 13, 2010 03:40 PM (gofDd)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 07:38 PM (UOM4
It really is one of those things that until you get it you won't see what the big deal is, but after you have it, the things become indispensable. I always thought they were kind of stupid, but I decided to see what the fuss was about... now I have three of them.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 03:41 PM (F09Uo)
"If voters are this stupid, I give up."
as a former stupid demoncrat voter, I formally apologize for voting for Kerry as well as other D's.
Never ever voting for another damn demoncrat again! ever! at any level of govt!
Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at April 13, 2010 03:41 PM (ACkhT)
I've been convinced for a while that the US will deploy troops to MX before we ever consider hitting Iran.
I was running to the liquor store a week or so ago and caught a few minutes of Mike Savage's show. He said the same thing. U.S. troops sent to Mexico to deal with the cartels.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2010 03:42 PM (P33XN)
You kidding? 50" plasma screens make Gaia cry, so they're going to be outlawed and replaced with those 50's era TVs that require you to pedal a bike to power them up.
Posted by: Obama at April 13, 2010 03:42 PM (c0A3e)
50" plasma screen too. Anything less is completely barbaric.
IÂ’m fairly certain the Obama administration will be subsidizing these for Americans soon.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 13, 2010 07:39 PM (RZ8pf)
They already subsidized one of mine via last year's stimulus.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 03:42 PM (F09Uo)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 03:46 PM (UOM48)
In that kind of war I'd root for the cartels. At least they're, um, businessmen. Kinda. Well, they're not driven by religious fanaticism so much as money?
Posted by: wherestherum at April 13, 2010 07:40 PM (gofDd)
Well it makes sense. They want us alive to buy their drugs. They're not going to side with the Islamists that want us dead.
Wasn't there a report a couple years ago about Bin Laden wanting to work with the Colombian Cartels to poison a bunch of cocaine going to the US and the cartels pretty much going "no thanks?"
Posted by: buzzion at April 13, 2010 03:46 PM (oVQFe)
In that kind of war I'd root for the cartels. At least they're, um, businessmen. Kinda. Well, they're not driven by religious fanaticism so much as money?
Posted by: wherestherum at April 13, 2010 07:40 PM (gofDd)
I'd be rooting for both of em' to take each other out, they're both trash.
This is another instance that reminds me of AVP, whoever wins, we all lose.
Posted by: Blazer at April 13, 2010 03:46 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: wherestherum at April 13, 2010 03:46 PM (gofDd)
Who said capitalism doesn't save lives?
I'd be rooting for both of em' to take each other out, they're both trash.
I'm okay with that, too.
Posted by: wherestherum at April 13, 2010 03:48 PM (gofDd)
Posted by: UGrev at April 13, 2010 03:49 PM (862vz)
I'd be rooting for both of em' to take each other out, they're both trash.
Yeah. When you're hearing reports from Mexico that the cops found a soccer ball with a human face stitched to it, well, you know the cartel goons aren't going to win humanitarian of the year awards anytime soon.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2010 03:49 PM (P33XN)
And yeah, I'm beyond pissed and worried that President Creased Prissypants is his CiC.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 03:50 PM (UOM48)
as a former stupid demoncrat voter, I formally apologize for voting for Kerry as well as other D's.
Never ever voting for another damn demoncrat again! ever! at any level of govt!
Democrats thrive on deceiving voters. They all campaign as moderates to get elected, and then move sharply left to govern.
It's a disgrace that must be pointed out at every turn.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 13, 2010 03:50 PM (0fzsA)
"as a former stupid demoncrat voter, I formally apologize for voting for Kerry as well as other D's.
Never ever voting for another damn demoncrat again! ever! at any level of govt!"
Democrats thrive on deceiving voters. They all campaign as moderates to get elected, and then move sharply left to govern.
It's a disgrace that must be pointed out at every turn.
fixed...
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 13, 2010 03:51 PM (0fzsA)
Posted by: buzzion at April 13, 2010 07:46 PM (oVQFe)
Who said capitalism doesn't save lives?
I'd be rooting for both of em' to take each other out, they're both trash.
I'm okay with that, too.
Posted by: wherestherum at April 13, 2010 07:48 PM (gofDd)
Let me rephrase that. I'd be rooting for the cartel to eliminate AQ , but have thier ranks and resources so decimated afterwards that the law enforcement agencies of both the U.S. and Mexico put the final nail in the coffin and deliver the deathblow.
Posted by: Blazer at April 13, 2010 03:52 PM (t72+4)
Thanks for the link to that StratFor article. Basically, drugs arenÂ’t going away and the Mexican government just hopes they can regain the balance among the cartels so that they can continue to rake in the money while eliminating the most egregious acts of violence that are currently scaring away tourists.
And the US attempts at eradicating the drug trafficking business were successful enough in the Caribbean but that merely drove the routes through Mexico instead so in the end the “drug war” is a failure on our part.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 13, 2010 03:52 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 07:46 PM (UOM4
No, they just mandated a minimal energy efficiency level. One of my neighbors just bought a 65" Plasma.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 03:52 PM (F09Uo)
What if we could hire the drug cartels to go up against the Tolleebon? Seems the cartels could teach the Tolleebon a thing or two about cruelty. We let the cartels take over the poppy fields, the locals will hate them with the heat of a thousand suns, we nuke them from space. Just to be sure. Win-win.
I'm feeling mean tonight.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 03:54 PM (UOM48)
That's great, congrats to your son for that accomplishment!
Sadly, I think Obama hates the military more than Billy-Jeff and Hillary. God help 'em.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at April 13, 2010 03:55 PM (c0A3e)
I'd be rooting for the cartel to eliminate AQ , but have thier ranks and resources so decimated afterwards that the law enforcement agencies of both the U.S. and Mexico put the final nail in the coffin and deliver the deathblow.
This sounds impossible, given that the law enforcement agencies in Mexico are actively working with the cartels. If the drug cartels are eliminated in Mexico a huge source of income to the country is removed. I think the only thing the law enforcement agencies in Mexico want is for the cartels to tone down the violence a bit and stop scaring away tourists. But, I could be totally pessimistic about the state of the country south of our border.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 13, 2010 03:56 PM (RZ8pf)
I heard the cartels learned beheading from AQ and that it wasn't one of their MOs before.
Posted by: wherestherum at April 13, 2010 03:57 PM (gofDd)
And yeah, I'm beyond pissed and worried that President Creased Prissypants is his CiC.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 07:50 PM (UOM4
My son wants to go Marine Corps too.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 03:57 PM (F09Uo)
Almost.
Posted by: Blazer
Well, until a bunch of us finds the keys to the blog, we're kinda stuck with comment-logging.
Morons of the Blog. Untie!
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at April 13, 2010 03:57 PM (o8Qz0)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2010 03:59 PM (P33XN)
This Cartels vs. AQ talk is almost as good as Star Wars vs. Star Trek talk.
Well, are we talking Star Trek TOS or Star Trek the Next Generation? Because Han Solo would kick PicardÂ’s ass from one side of the galaxy to another.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 13, 2010 03:59 PM (RZ8pf)
This sounds impossible, given that the law enforcement agencies in Mexico are actively working with the cartels. If the drug cartels are eliminated in Mexico a huge source of income to the country is removed. I think the only thing the law enforcement agencies in Mexico want is for the cartels to tone down the violence a bit and stop scaring away tourists. But, I could be totally pessimistic about the state of the country south of our border.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 13, 2010 07:56 PM (RZ8pf)
You're exactly right. We're just fantasizing above. Two of the major parts of the Mexican GDP are drugs and remittances from illegal aliens here.
Posted by: Blazer at April 13, 2010 03:59 PM (t72+4)
And yeah, his dad and I did everything possible to steer him away. Sue us. He's our only child. He's an Eagle Scout and a really, really, great young man. His instructors all the way up have told us he's been an inspiration to a lot of the other kids.
Semper Fi.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 04:01 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2010 07:59 PM (P33XN)
Whatever the number, and I'm sure it's high, it's not enough for the US gov't to take it seriously and put troops on the border.
As a commenter from Patterico's (I think) said, "What's a few dead Americans when you have more (illegal) voters coming in?"
Posted by: wherestherum at April 13, 2010 04:01 PM (gofDd)
Jane DÂ’oh keep us posted on your son. God bless him for stepping up to serve.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 13, 2010 04:02 PM (RZ8pf)
Well, are we talking Star Trek TOS or Star Trek the Next Generation? Because Han Solo would kick PicardÂ’s ass from one side of the galaxy to another.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 13, 2010 07:59 PM (RZ8pf)
Solo vs. Kirk.
Who wins?
Talk amongst yourselves.
Posted by: Blazer at April 13, 2010 04:02 PM (t72+4)
This Dallas Morning News art. says 22,700 since 2006.
So that's like the equivalent of 63k US dead percentage wise.
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at April 13, 2010 04:03 PM (o8Qz0)
Posted by: Hammer at April 13, 2010 04:04 PM (1kwr2)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 04:04 PM (UOM48)
Last I heard, #1 source of income was money sent back from illegals/legals here and #2 was oil.
Posted by: wherestherum at April 13, 2010 04:05 PM (gofDd)
Did the D.C. hookers have a sale?
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 13, 2010 04:06 PM (r1h5M)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 04:06 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 08:01 PM (UOM4
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 04:08 PM (F09Uo)
Solo vs. Kirk.
Who wins?
Talk amongst yourselves.
Posted by: Blazer at April 13, 2010 08:02 PM (t72+4)
Well Kirk definitely gets more babes. But I think I'd kind of prefer the Wookiee sidekick to the Vulcan. I mean a non-violent nervepinch or arm ripping fury?
Posted by: buzzion at April 13, 2010 04:10 PM (oVQFe)
Blazer, IÂ’m doing an exhaustive analysis of your query but so far I cannot come up with a definitive answer.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 13, 2010 04:14 PM (RZ8pf)
Bottom line: once your kid is old enough to make the decision you have to stand behind them 100%. We enthusiastically did. Our kid is a conservative who voted McCain/Palin in his very first election. He's not fond of Barky (and has told us stories of his superiors and their feelings). All of our troops need our prayers. Maybe more than ever.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 04:14 PM (UOM48)
Blazer, IÂ’m doing an exhaustive analysis of your query but so far I cannot come up with a definitive answer.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 13, 2010 08:14 PM (RZ8pf)
The answer is easy.
Posted by: Blazer at April 13, 2010 04:14 PM (t72+4)
@285: "Solo vs. Kirk.
Who wins?"
Solo has the better ship, better sidearm, and far less ghey universe. He's also not an insufferable prick.
Posted by: Barack Obama at April 13, 2010 04:15 PM (kmEfr)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 04:16 PM (UOM48)
Die in a fire, libtards.
/too mean?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 04:18 PM (UOM48)
This Dallas Morning News art. says 22,700 since 2006.
So that's like the equivalent of 63k US dead percentage wise.
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at April 13, 2010 08:03 PM (o8Qz0)
I also hear that 22,700 is a low number with a lot more murders and dissapearences in Mexico that do not get counted in that number. Real numbers since 1996 (I hear) are closer to 35,000 to 40,000.
Mexico has always fudged their numbers. Their last official murder rate is about 10 per 100,000 people but their real number is closer to 20 per 100,000. They have no official numbers since 2008 and "officially" now they have half the number of murders than they did in 2003 when compared to 2008. That last number is not even close to credible IMO.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 04:20 PM (F09Uo)
Thanks for the Stratfor and Dallas Morning News articles. Jebus, 23,000 dead. It's pretty clear that unconstitutional/extraconstitutional means are necessary to destroy the cartels.
One thing, though. If Barry manages to destroy the United States, the cartels are out of business. No one will be able to afford their narcotics.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2010 04:22 PM (P33XN)
Mexico has always been fucked up, though. I remember back in the late 1980s they busted up some black magic cult that was killing people and eating them. Then you've got the hundreds of young women that disappeared in Northern Mexico over a period of years. They've found tons of bodies buried out in the desert. All young women. They've no clue what's going on there.
Now the cartels. Mexico is and always has been a lawless country. Even more of a reason why the illegals need to go, in my opinion.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2010 04:25 PM (P33XN)
These bastards are making the Jihadists out to be a bunch of sissies.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 04:25 PM (UOM48)
300
Napoleon Solo from MAN FROM UNCLE or Han Solo?
hate to say that i'm old enough to have watched the Man From Uncle. But Napoleon Solo had alot of tricks up his sleeve. And was cool.
Posted by: Racefan at April 13, 2010 04:25 PM (HjQ9V)
Real numbers since 1996 (I hear) are closer to 35,000 to 40,000.
Jesus...just, Jesus. Can you fucking imagine trying to raise a family in that mess?
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2010 04:26 PM (P33XN)
The answer is easy.
Hmm. I guess IÂ’m going to have to go with Han Solo then. Though I think Kirk would give him a run for his money. Both can play dirty when they need to, both have an honorable streak in them, they both are probably fairly evenly matched in hand to hand combat. Han Solo has better hair, though.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 13, 2010 04:27 PM (RZ8pf)
The most damning article I've seen in an MSM paper on this (mis)administration.
http://tinyurl.com/y5nn8g3
“World leaders arriving in Washington for President Obama’s Nuclear Security Summit must have felt for a moment that they had instead been transported to Soviet-era Moscow.
They entered a capital that had become a military encampment, with camo-wearing military police in Humvees and enough Army vehicles to make it look like a May Day parade on New York Avenue, where a bicyclist was killed Monday by a National Guard truck.
In the middle of it all was Obama — occupant of an office once informally known as “leader of the free world” — putting on a clinic for some of the world’s greatest dictators in how to circumvent a free press."
Posted by: Taqiyyotomist at April 13, 2010 04:27 PM (ltfED)
Posted by: Taqiyyotomist at April 13, 2010 04:29 PM (ltfED)
Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger at April 13, 2010 04:29 PM (6wUMA)
IÂ’m not really sure what anybody expected to happen at the nuclear summit anyway. ItÂ’s not like they invited the people who are the real threat and its not like anybody is really going to disarm anything major. Seems to me it was just another chance for Obama to show the other world leaders that he is a pussy and can be rolled any time they want.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 13, 2010 04:29 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 04:30 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at April 13, 2010 04:30 PM (erIg9)
300
Napoleon Solo from MAN FROM UNCLE or Han Solo?
hate to say that i'm old enough to have watched the Man From Uncle. But Napoleon Solo had alot of tricks up his sleeve. And was cool.
Posted by: Racefan
Ditto, ditto and ditto. Shit ...
Anyhow, can we see the bill on this little get together?
Posted by: Drillanwr at April 13, 2010 04:30 PM (1kwr2)
No
Darth fucking Vader.
What does Han do?
Does he scream, turn around leaving Leia to fend for his self and run for his life?
No
Does he immediately go down on his knees and beg Vader for his life, willing to cut a deal and betray the Rebel Alliance?
No.
He whips out his blaster out and tries to gun the fucker down right where he sits in front of his own Stormtroopers.
Posted by: Blazer at April 13, 2010 04:31 PM (t72+4)
Real numbers since 1996 (I hear) are closer to 35,000 to 40,000.
Jesus...just, Jesus. Can you fucking imagine trying to raise a family in that mess?
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2010 08:26 PM (P33XN)
That might explain why about 26% of their indigionous born population is now living in the U.S..
Still, compared to Central America, their murder rate is ONLY about 1/4 of what it is in Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 04:31 PM (F09Uo)
Posted by: Taqiyyotomist at April 13, 2010 08:27 PM (ltfED)
Someone quoted it earlier on this post already.
Posted by: buzzion at April 13, 2010 04:31 PM (oVQFe)
Seems to me it was just another chance for Obama to show the other world leaders that he is a pussy and can be rolled any time they want.
What's amazing is that the media and the other branches of Obamaites think just the opposite. They're standing around with tears in their eyes as their little boy president looks so damned presidenty.
These fucking delusional maniacs are going to get tens of millions of us killed.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2010 04:32 PM (P33XN)
tmi3rd, if you're reading this, boys really are easier. And God bless tmi4th and Mrs. tmi3rd!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 04:32 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 08:14 PM (UOM4
THIS
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 04:33 PM (F09Uo)
Reporters for foreign outlets, many operating in repressive countries, got the impression that the vaunted American freedoms are not all they're cracked up to be."
---snip---
ya gotta read it all
I wonder (no I don't) was there a representative from Israel at the summit?
I'm guessing Israel was discussed. In a "what's the best way to destroy her and have nobody get the blame" sort of way.
Posted by: Taqiyyotomist at April 13, 2010 04:33 PM (ltfED)
THE MILITARY NEEDS A SITE. IT IS NOT a "state" issue.
It has to be in a place where there are no earthquakes, mudslides, floods, hurricanes, etc. and that can be militarily protected.
I would be happy to put it in my "backyard" if my backyard were suitably geologically suited for it.
Our sailors live with those reactors 24/7 and they aren't dropping dead. There is essentially no danger with Yucca. Anything said to the contrary is flat earth hysteria.
Talk to a nuclear physicist. See if they think there is a danger to the state from Yucca storage. There isn't.
Posted by: dagny at April 13, 2010 04:34 PM (k+Aa0)
Yeah Blazer, that was a pretty cool scene with Han Solo alright. That and his cocky “I know” when Leia tells him she loves him.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 13, 2010 04:34 PM (RZ8pf)
I wonder (no I don't) was there a representative from Israel at the summit?
Actually, I heard Israel was going to be well represented. Just not Netanyahu.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2010 04:35 PM (P33XN)
Win.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 04:36 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Blazer at April 13, 2010 08:31 PM (t72+4)
Right fucking on -- and he's trying to shoot a guy who can deflect blaster shots with his HANDS. Han still goes for it.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 13, 2010 04:38 PM (0fPOP)
Maybe we should just invade the hell out of Mexico. Pull our guys out of 'stan and Iraq. Hell, Mexico has oil, natural beauty, etc., etc., etc.
There was always talk about expanding the American state into other places. Proponents wanted to take over Canada, Cuba, Mexico, and Central America at various times in our history.
The problem always seemed to hinge on Mexico being full of Mexicans, Cuba being full of Cubans, etc.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2010 04:38 PM (P33XN)
Maybe we should just invade the hell out of Mexico. Pull our guys out of 'stan and Iraq. Hell, Mexico has oil, natural beauty, etc., etc., etc.
Win.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 08:36 PM (UOM4
We already do.
Its called Spring Break.
Posted by: Blazer at April 13, 2010 04:38 PM (t72+4)
Fuck you, Pataki.
Anyone want to strongarm Giuliani into reconsidering? it would be an instant win...
Then again he would have to run yet again in 2012, so you can't blame Georgie Porgie.
Still someone find bound and gag Rudy and make him run...
Posted by: gaah at April 13, 2010 04:40 PM (lV4Fs)
Posted by: Math sez at April 13, 2010 04:40 PM (mhD2v)
I might support invading Mexico if my personal spoils of war include that Latina chick on that soap opera on Univision. The one with the long black hair and two volleyballs attached to her chest.
Otherwise, no dice.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2010 04:41 PM (P33XN)
@30 I'm kind of confused as why should Canada need to give up their spent highly enriched uranium anyways? They even mine uranium for christ's sake.
Actually Bill Gates is working with Toshiba corp on a new nuclear reactor that uses spent uranium and doesn't need refueling for 100 years...so I guess you're getting a deal
Posted by: CanaDave at April 13, 2010 04:41 PM (/me28)
This Dallas Morning News art. says 22,700 since 2006.
So that's like the equivalent of 63k US dead percentage wise.
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at April 13, 2010 08:03 PM (o8Qz0)
Ah ha! So that's why there isn't a line to get into Borrega's down in Juarez anymore!
I was wondering...
Posted by: TexasJew at April 13, 2010 04:41 PM (MN33D)
Posted by: lou at April 13, 2010 04:41 PM (cwVm3)
OK. I finally found out why making sure Yucca didn't open is personal for Hairy Reed. There were 3 desert sites being considered for the storage. One in the SE corner of Washington, one in the panhandle of Texas, and one in Yucca Mountain. Tom Foley (D-Wa) was the house majority leader and Jim Wright (D- TX) was speaker in 1987. They took Washington and Texas out of the bill for consideration at the last minute with no warning. Reed felt hosed. It's personal to him.
Posted by: dagny at April 13, 2010 04:41 PM (k+Aa0)
Fighting the cartels is going to be hard work. I would think it would take more than troops to infiltrate them, though.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby in TX at April 13, 2010 04:42 PM (yfJ6g)
Win.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 08:36 PM (UOM4
The only thing wrong with that is that we are now stuck with Mexico if we "invaded". Unless we wanted to go Romanesque and depopulate the country, we would just be importing their problems via their people and have considerable 5th column activity from Mexicans already here.
We need a wall and the politically willingness to deport en-mass.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 04:42 PM (F09Uo)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 04:42 PM (UOM48)
Remember HART TO HART?
Remember the intro when Jonathan and Whatshername Jennifer were in their cars and MAX, their butler, did a little voiceover?
Max says, "When they met, it was ________." Fill in the blank.
Posted by: Dynomutt After Dark at April 13, 2010 04:43 PM (JY1gZ)
lou at April 13, 2010 08:41 PM (cwVm3)
Sounds like what happened with Scott Brown in Massachusetts a few months back.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2010 04:43 PM (P33XN)
Maybe that's what's cowing all the big-name NY Republicans (both of them!) from taking a crack at the seat... they have visions of being swept beneath Obama coattails in the state in two years.
Still, the Democrats never seem to have this problem. If there was an appointed GOP senator this week up for election, they would pull out the big guns against him or her even if it was in the reddest state in the land. The Dems PUNCH! UP! ALL! DAY! LONG!
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 13, 2010 04:45 PM (0fPOP)
Maybe we should just invade the hell out of Mexico. Pull our guys out of 'stan and Iraq. Hell, Mexico has oil, natural beauty, etc., etc., etc.
Put Sherriff Arpaio in charge of the invasion and Mexico would be under our control by lunch time on Friday.
Posted by: ErikW at April 13, 2010 04:45 PM (6wUMA)
322 Heres why Solo wins. The Empire Strikes Back. Solo, Chewy and Leia land at Cloud City to meet his good friend Lando which he hasnt seen in years. Lando invites them to an elegant dinner where both Han and Leia dress to the nines, Leia, especially looks fetching. Han and Leia stroll down the corridors together stride in stride, the whole way Han is thinking "tonight's the night", he's gonna get lucky. The door opens, and who happens to be sitting at the head of the table to greet them? Lando?
No
Darth fucking Vader.
What does Han do?
Does he scream, turn around leaving Leia to fend for his self and run for his life?
No
Does he immediately go down on his knees and beg Vader for his life, willing to cut a deal and betray the Rebel Alliance?
No.
He whips out his blaster out and tries to gun the fucker down right where he sits in front of his own Stormtroopers.
But Napolean Solo would shoot the light out, swing in on a string like spiderman and kick is ass with is bear hands. Then be laying on a beach drinking with his girlfriend before he knew what happened.
Posted by: Racefan at April 13, 2010 04:45 PM (HjQ9V)
OT: Are any of you taking off work on April 15th as protest or to participate in a Tea Party?
I was debating on it, but after watching what Bill Whittle has to say about it, I feel compelled!
http://tinyurl.com/BillWhittleTP
Posted by: elspeth at April 13, 2010 04:47 PM (kN5zS)
O'Reilly has breaking news....on Lady Gaga......
O'Reilly's a major douchenozzle. No surprise there. The problem for Fox is what to do with him. They'd probably rather have Beck in his slot, but O'Reilly still pulls in the ratings and would likely go nuclear if Fox throws him under the bus.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2010 04:48 PM (P33XN)
"When they met, it was ________." Fill in the blank.
Posted by: Dynomutt After Dark at April 13, 2010 08:43 PM (JY1gZ)
at a drowning coverup accident.
Posted by: Blazer at April 13, 2010 04:50 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: Hu Jintao at April 13, 2010 04:50 PM (cniXs)
as a former stupid demoncrat voter, I formally apologize for voting for Kerry as well as other D's.
OMG. You said you were a Kennedy democrat! Kerry! For god's sake, he maligned our troops. Ugh. Blech. Nasty. Nothing worse than Kerry except Obama. I guess we should be grateful that Obama has turned around so many lib voters.
Posted by: dagny at April 13, 2010 04:50 PM (vKgd+)
lou at April 13, 2010 08:41 PM (cwVm3)
Sounds like what happened with Scott Brown in Massachusetts a few months back.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2010 08:43 PM (P33XN)
Yep, reid was here in NV last week and would not tell anybody what time he was showing up for his stops across the state, (including press) on his campaign tour, tee hee. He knew he would be met with protestors. It looked like the only supporters were seiu types. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.
Posted by: lou at April 13, 2010 04:50 PM (cwVm3)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 04:51 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 08:42 PM (UOM4
Jane... the border is actually pretty quiet, overall The last thing you want to do is to cause another 1915-16 tidal wave of panicked emigrants from Mexico. Pancho Villa and Francisco Madera were killing lots more people here back then than anything we have seen these days. Almost 15% of all Mexicans died during the Revolution. It was a historical bloodbath.
My wife's family supported both sides at different times. It was wild.
Posted by: TexasJew at April 13, 2010 04:52 PM (MN33D)
Well, now Mexico seems to be full of narco-terrorists. And they're coming across our border and killing U.S. citizens. Mexico's government and military seem unable to handle the situation. So?
Sending troops into Mexico will result in absolutely...nothing. We no longer have the will to do what is necessary to win anything, anywhere. What are our goals in Mexico? Wipe out the cartels? How do you do that when the demand for drugs remains high in the United States?
If you wanted to invade Mexico and create a 100 mile buffer zone along our border in which no one lives and nothing grows, I'd support that. Would cut down on illegals, no doubt. But that's never going to happen.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2010 04:53 PM (P33XN)
My "moderate" sister thinks the cartel will go away if they legalize pot.
Yeah, they will just go home and make tortillas. Sure.
Posted by: dagny at April 13, 2010 04:53 PM (vKgd+)
Someday we'll find out what really happened on that boat. Either there was a fight or she [natalie wood] committed suicide.
Posted by: Dynomutt After Dark at April 13, 2010 04:54 PM (JY1gZ)
We need a wall and the politically willingness to deport en-mass.
Posted by: Jim in San DiegoSorry, that's not the US you're living in. Deportation will never happen.
Possible: A wall plus an employee verification system, more consistent investigation and prosecution of companies that employ illegals, reformed welfare, end automatic citizenship on birth to people on tourist/business visas, end 'sanctuary cities,' and last, but not least, federal prosecution of cities/counties that refuse to enforce their own building/safety codes on all residences.
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at April 13, 2010 04:54 PM (o8Qz0)
My "moderate" sister thinks the cartel will go away if they legalize pot.
Yeah, they will just go home and make tortillas. Sure.
Posted by: dagny at April 13, 2010 08:53 PM (vKgd+)
Does she think the cartels are addicted to pot and that they just will not move onto whatever else is illegal and profitable?
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 04:55 PM (F09Uo)
And student visas, and no visas.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 13, 2010 04:55 PM (OkT2m)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 04:55 PM (UOM48)
Someday we'll find out what really happened on that boat. Either there was a fight or she [natalie wood] committed suicide.
At the risk of being banned, I must repeat a childhood joke. What kind of wood doesn't float?....
Posted by: runningrn at April 13, 2010 04:57 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 04:57 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: dagny at April 13, 2010 04:58 PM (vKgd+)
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at April 13, 2010 08:54 PM (o8Qz0)
Oh no. We will do none of that other stuff either.
I do not believe we will ever have a wall short of the destruction of the Republican party as we now know it.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 04:58 PM (F09Uo)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 08:55 PM (UOM4
I'm just saying that some kind of invasion or whatever is nuts. The real victims of this drug shit are the decent people in Mexico.
Jack Pershing's punitive foray into a lot wilder and more dangerous Mexico was a total bust.
Posted by: TexasJew at April 13, 2010 05:00 PM (MN33D)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 05:01 PM (UOM48)
372 Yes. She thinks the entire cartel exists because marijuana is illegal in the U.S. If it were legalized and taxed the US would make money and the cartel would be driven out of business.
When I suggested that they would just move on to another illegal activity or drug she said that no, the big market is for pot and that legalizing it here would effectively end the cartel.
She seems to think they would just declare bankruptcy and then, I don't know, ride their burros into the sunset.
Posted by: dagny at April 13, 2010 05:01 PM (vKgd+)
Posted by: lou at April 13, 2010 05:02 PM (cwVm3)
You'll never defeat the drug cartels while 1/2 to 2/3rds of the politicians police and military are drawing paychecks from them.
Posted by: Blazer at April 13, 2010 05:02 PM (t72+4)
My "moderate" sister thinks the cartel will go away if they legalize pot.
Yeah, they will just go home and make tortillas. Sure
Dagny, you clueless wingnut! As a matter of fact, Dr. Jill (she of the massive mammaries) and I like to sneak on down every now and then to Tijuana when we get an hankering for Mexican. We literally run for the border. Those little brown people make the most delightful little hemp tortillas. They literally melt in your mouth. So put that in your pipe and smoke it!
Posted by: Sherrif (thank God it's the same in "Mexican") Joe F'N Biden at April 13, 2010 05:04 PM (CfmlF)
Didn't George Patton invade mexico with 3 cars when he was Pershing's aide?-Dagny
Actaully, a majority of the active duty Army was down around the border 1915-1917. Which gives you an Idea of how small our Army was just before WWI.
By grandfather was down there, before he got to go "over there". A big part of the US getting into WWI was the so-called "Zimmerman" letter, allegedly from the German ambassador to the Mexican government, offering them "help" against the Norde Americanos.
Posted by: Reader CJ Burch says.. at April 13, 2010 05:04 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 05:04 PM (UOM48)
If it isn't great enough that it looks like those on the right have realized begrudgingly that even the most liberal R's that have won primaries so far MUST WIN... the left is going down the dark path of purging WHILE THEY ALREADY FACE LOSING CONTROL.
We should contribute whatever we can to the cause of liberal self-destruction...
Posted by: conartcritic at April 13, 2010 05:04 PM (lV4Fs)
Posted by: curious at April 13, 2010 05:05 PM (p302b)
I will send in my $2000 check on Thursday and not a day before. Blood suckers.
Posted by: dagny at April 13, 2010 05:05 PM (vKgd+)
TheyÂ’ve already moved beyond marijuana, thatÂ’s part of the reason the violence has gotten out of control. Not that I think it would do your sister any good, but maybe you should send her that Stratfor article linked above, it does a good job of laying out the situation.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 13, 2010 05:05 PM (RZ8pf)
O'Reilly Alert!! Obtuse as to whether he is a liberal or liberal light!!
Hey, c'mon here. He's looking out for you, man! FOR YOU!
He's O'Reilly, super crime fighter and purveyor of truth. With his fat ass firmly planted in his plush $5000.00 chair in NYC, he's busting the chops of the evildoers. And he's doing it before he's finished his first cup of coffee, dammit!
HE'S LOOKING OUT FOR YOU, GODDAMMIT!
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2010 05:06 PM (P33XN)
Posted by: mpfs, Fuck the IRS & California at April 13, 2010 05:08 PM (QuP9W)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 09:04 PM (UOM4
Yum indeed!! Parents born in Cuba, he knows what the hell we need for this country!!
Posted by: lou at April 13, 2010 05:08 PM (cwVm3)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 05:08 PM (UOM48)
Look at the map at the link, these two quakes are in a straight line from one another both within the last hour or so.
Posted by: curious at April 13, 2010 05:08 PM (p302b)
Posted by: runningrn at April 13, 2010 05:09 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: RushBabe at April 13, 2010 05:11 PM (LKkE8)
Posted by: Jane D'oh
No that's a Cuban sandwich I would love to have!
Posted by: mpfs, Fuck the IRS & California at April 13, 2010 05:11 PM (QuP9W)
Posted by: Racefan at April 13, 2010 05:11 PM (HjQ9V)
Look at the map at the link, these two quakes are in a straight line from one another both within the last hour or so.
Obviously, this is the direct result of global warming and the U.S. refusing to enact meaningful legislation to counteract it. Gaia is angry, and she's erupting in anger because you greedy Americans are eating whatever you want, keeping our thermostats at 70 degrees and driving wherever you want. You wingnuts are responsible, and there will be judgment upon you.
Posted by: Big Ass Al Gore at April 13, 2010 05:12 PM (CfmlF)
The markets for meth, heroin, and child sex slavery are also big here, although I think it's easier for the clients to go to Mexico for that last one.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 13, 2010 05:12 PM (OkT2m)
Posted by: runningrn at April 13, 2010 05:13 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 13, 2010 05:13 PM (OkT2m)
Obviously, this is the direct result of global warming and the U.S. refusing to enact meaningful legislation to counteract it.
Huh. I figured racism caused it. Live and learn, I guess.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2010 05:14 PM (P33XN)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 05:14 PM (UOM48)
No that's a Cuban sandwich I would love to have!
Did you call? 'Cause Dodd and I could put on sombreros and croon something in Spanish for ya!
Posted by: Zombie of Teddy Kennedy at April 13, 2010 05:15 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: HeatherRadish
at April 13, 2010 09:13 PM (OkT2m)
And the slaves last longer.
Posted by: FUBAR at April 13, 2010 05:15 PM (1fanL)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 13, 2010 05:17 PM (OkT2m)
400 I got you beat dagny. $1100 to the Fed fuckers, $4009 to the California rat fuckers.
OMG. I got money back from Virginia!
Posted by: dagny at April 13, 2010 05:17 PM (vKgd+)
Fire up the boat back to Cuba. I'll pay the fare.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at April 13, 2010 05:17 PM (554T5)
Did you call? 'Cause Dodd and I could put on sombreros and croon something in Spanish for ya!
Posted by: Zombie of Teddy KennedyDrop dead you pasty ass perv.
Oh wait, you are dead. Bwhahahahaaha
Posted by: mpfs, MrsRubio-West-Brown-Ryan at April 13, 2010 05:18 PM (QuP9W)
397 Ok read it and forwarded it with the points I wanted excerpted and in the email.
But really, Duh.
Posted by: dagny at April 13, 2010 05:19 PM (vKgd+)
Is it time for the drinking post yet?
Funny that was #420. Anyway, arenÂ’t those all posts here?
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 13, 2010 05:20 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 13, 2010 09:12 PM (OkT2m)
Mexico has already cranked their age of consent for girls down to 12 in lower Baja (Cabo and La Paz) and 14 in upper Baja (read: Tijuana).
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 05:20 PM (F09Uo)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 05:20 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: mpfs, MrsRubio-West-Brown-Ryan at April 13, 2010 09:16 PM (QuP9W)
MPFS, I'm also liking Charles Lollar (from what I've seen). He's running against Steny Hoyer and he's a marine/marine reservist/MBA. Oh, and least importantly, he's black. Here's the link to his campaign site.
http://tinyurl.com/y89j4n9
Posted by: runningrn at April 13, 2010 05:21 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: dagny at April 13, 2010 05:21 PM (vKgd+)
A funny thing happend on the way to the Summit.
Actually it didn't
But our Ally lost thier President and Government, and we held a Summit instead of mourning with them. Did you see any flags at half staff today?
Next year the media will self destruct, and the Emporer's tailor will become known.
Posted by: The Analyst at April 13, 2010 05:23 PM (UGrme)
What do you mean, he accomplished "pretty much" nothing? It just gave that empty suit an opportunity to play make believe, to pretend that he was presidential, to feel important. He's freaking delusional. A madman.
He has the mind of a small child. The world's leaders smile at him patronizingly, and snicker about him behind his back. He becomes more clownish with every passing day. The guy is a disaster. No leadership skills, no qualifications to be a head of state, none whatsoever.
Posted by: Dianne & Brian at April 13, 2010 05:23 PM (ITzbJ)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 05:24 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 05:26 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: mpfs, MrsRubio-West-Brown-Ryan at April 13, 2010 09:16 PM (QuP9W)
MPFS, I'm also liking Charles Lollar (from what I've seen). He's running against Steny Hoyer and he's a marine/marine reservist/MBA. Oh, and least importantly, he's black. Here's the link to his campaign site.
Posted by: runningrn
Oh my....
Thank you runningrn
Posted by: mpfs, Mrs Rubio-West-Brown-Ryan-Lollar at April 13, 2010 05:27 PM (QuP9W)
Posted by: Racefan at April 13, 2010 05:28 PM (HjQ9V)
What are bacon “ends & pieces?” The grocery store my house is advertising a 3 lb. pack of them for $2.97 and I can’t decide if that’s worth a buy or not.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 13, 2010 05:28 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: runningrn at April 13, 2010 09:09 PM (CfmlF)
They are like lemmings, they want to be cool with the Hollywood crowd and will jump off a cliff. I don't care what they think, not that I ever did!! Hollywood sucks!
Posted by: lou at April 13, 2010 05:28 PM (cwVm3)
Posted by: mpfs, Mrs Rubio-West-Brown-Ryan-Lollar at April 13, 2010 05:29 PM (QuP9W)
It won't end the cartels, but it'd take a large chunk of their business. And yeah, they'll turn to other things. But I pro legalizing pot or at the very least, decriminalizing it. There are for more dangerous narcotics that are quite legal. Pot seems like the least of them.
Now if you legalize cocaine, that's also cut off a very large arm of the cartels. I think Fox had talked about legalizing it in Mexico but Bush told him not to. I'd have been interested to see what would've happened in Mexico if they started legalizing drugs.
Posted by: wherestherum at April 13, 2010 05:29 PM (gofDd)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 09:26 PM (UOM4
It's still daylight out.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 05:29 PM (F09Uo)
Posted by: eman at April 13, 2010 05:31 PM (fTJLU)
What are bacon “ends & pieces?” The grocery store my house is advertising a 3 lb. pack of them for $2.97 and I can’t decide if that’s worth a buy or not.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 13, 2010 09:28 PM (RZ8pf)
Fry them and make a gravy and biscuits with them. Eggs are a plus.
Posted by: lou at April 13, 2010 05:31 PM (cwVm3)
What are bacon “ends & pieces?” The grocery store my house is advertising a 3 lb. pack of them for $2.97 and I can’t decide if that’s worth a buy or not.
It's mostly rough cut fat with very little meat. Don't be surprised if you find skin attached as well.
Posted by: ErikW at April 13, 2010 05:31 PM (6wUMA)
You don't get that kind of intellect from that terrible snowbilly, or from any of those awful tea party rabble, now do you?
Did I mention, I have a Bachelor's in History. From Chicago. I WENT TO COLLEGE, dammit!
Posted by: David "Plankton" Brooks at April 13, 2010 05:31 PM (Vc/xe)
Jeezus, I sound like I'm smoking something. That's what I get for typing fast.
And ftr, I've never done pot in my entire life.
Posted by: wherestherum at April 13, 2010 05:31 PM (gofDd)
On the other hand, my nickname in high school was Panama Red.
Hey, it was the seventies.
Posted by: mpfs, Mrs Rubio-West-Brown-Ryan-Lollar at April 13, 2010 05:33 PM (QuP9W)
Posted by: Z Ryan at April 13, 2010 05:34 PM (cMo6P)
Posted by: wherestherum at April 13, 2010 09:31 PM (gofDd)
I spent my college years rooming with people who waked-and-baked every damn day. I might be able to get on board with decriminalizing it but no more.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 13, 2010 05:35 PM (0fPOP)
Posted by: wherestherum at April 13, 2010 09:29 PM (gofDd)
Unless we legalize all drugs, the cartels will always have something to smuggle. Besides Mexico has already legalized all those drugs last year.
Observers also note that when the Mexican Congress approved a similar law several years ago, the then president, Vicente Fox, declined to sign it because of stiff pressure from the Bush administration in Washington. This time around, there was no such intervention from the US, which so far has had little to say about it officially.
Under the new rules there will be no action taken against those carrying up to a half-gramme of cocaine, 40 grammes of marijuana or 50 milligrammes of heroin.
Limits are set for other drugs, including LSD and methamphetamine. People found in possession of these small amounts will be encouraged to attend a drug treatment programme.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 13, 2010 05:35 PM (F09Uo)
Don't be surprised if you find skin attached as well.
Oh. Nevermind then. I donÂ’t do too well when my meat still resembles the animal it came off of. Yes, I realize I will die in the apocalypse.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 13, 2010 05:36 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: AOS Party Crasher
From orbit?
Posted by: Z Ryan at April 13, 2010 09:34 PM (cMo6P)
Only way to be sure.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 13, 2010 05:37 PM (0fPOP)
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States, Driving As Fast As He Can Toward Ground Zero at April 13, 2010 05:38 PM (0fPOP)
Yes, thank you Mr. Undead, as long as we can stop and drop my son off with his Dad first.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 13, 2010 05:39 PM (RZ8pf)
Hell, I was 29 before anyone even offered me any. *nerd*
Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 13, 2010 05:40 PM (OkT2m)
Oh. Nevermind then. I donÂ’t do too well when my meat still resembles the animal it came off of. Yes, I realize I will die in the apocalypse.
Yeah, me too. I thought I was a badass when I ate two scrawny frogs legs at a joint in N'awlins. Then the soft-shell crab came and I nearly puked...
Posted by: ErikW at April 13, 2010 05:41 PM (6wUMA)
No one's ever even offered it to me. I guess I'm not one of the "cool" kids.
Posted by: wherestherum at April 13, 2010 05:43 PM (gofDd)
Photo's worth a thousand words, as usual.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 13, 2010 05:49 PM (OkT2m)
We should surrender on the war on drugs. Imagine if the inner city youth were allowed to paticipate in society.
Posted by: td at April 13, 2010 05:51 PM (w7TI0)
Yes. I've heard it before. It's usually used by non-scientists, since they think that any mathematical sounding terms lend them extra credibility. In general, it just makes them sound like the clueless idiots they are. Sociologists and their ilk love to try and throw these kinds of terms around. A mathematician, Sokal, made a big joke of it by submitting a paper to a sociology journal, strewn with mathematical language, that made no sense at all.
My point with The Precedent's use of it in his press conference (or press dictation session, or whatever you would call it) is that it was used incorrectly and that it's offensive that a total retard who makes up nonsensical notions such as "profit and earnings ratios" would have the gall to even try to use such a term, especially when the actual word he was looking for was, simply, "calculation".
>>>45,600 google hits for the term. Some go back to 2002, but then again those are Internets Thingy citations, which perforce are recent. I suspect you'll find the phrase in the OECD.
"Meh" is considered a legitimate word by the OED (not sure if that is what you were referencing - though the Org for econom. develop is not much different), so that tells you how much stock I put in that joke of a reference. Just sayin' ...
As to the language used by social scientists, all I can say is that most of them learn phonetically - even at the graduate level.
>>>It's a bit arcane, but less clunky than the old Soviet "change in the correlation of forces".
Heh (which is not yet a word, according to the OED, but I think it'll make it by next year). "Calculus" is certainly much cooler than old Soviet-speak. Anything with "c"s and "u"s together sounds cool - like sculpt.
>>>"Optics" seems to be in vogue right now among journos, meaning "appearances", or "how things superficially look". Even Chas. Krauthammer uses it.
Posted by: effinayright at April 13, 2010 07:24 PM (3sB5l)
I can't tell you how much I am annoyed by people who abuse that word for its new, cool meaning. "Appearance" is so bland and pedestrian, I guess. When I hear Krauthammer say "optics" instead of "appearance", it drives me up a friggin' wall.
My initial point about the phrase "change the calculus" was just that it is such a transparent effort by the Indonesian Imbecile to appear intelligent and anyone with a brain hears that crap and knows that only a total idiot uses that sort of phrase. Little wonder that Shrillary "reset/overcharged" likes it, as she is about as intelligent as a small pebble, too.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 13, 2010 05:52 PM (N49h9)
Uh, no one's stopping them but themselves.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 13, 2010 05:52 PM (OkT2m)
That's not Vicky Vette up there with Ted Nugent and Wally Cleaver?
She's hawt nonetheless.
Posted by: Breaker19 at April 13, 2010 05:54 PM (NeKJB)
Imagine if the inner city youth were allowed to paticipate in society.
Uh, no one's stopping them but themselves.
That was beautiful Heather
Posted by: Ronster at April 13, 2010 05:54 PM (50lLr)
Posted by: td at April 13, 2010 05:55 PM (w7TI0)
Posted by: td at April 13, 2010 05:57 PM (w7TI0)
Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 13, 2010 05:39 PM (N49h9)
This was my exact thought when I heard him say that.
Posted by: baldilocks at April 13, 2010 05:59 PM (GcQgx)
Where were you during prohibition and how did that work out?
I was ferrying liquor for the Kennedy clan
Posted by: Ronster at April 13, 2010 06:03 PM (50lLr)
Posted by: td at April 13, 2010 06:06 PM (w7TI0)
Great minds, baldilocks.
I was looking for a video of the press conference (or transcript) but couldn't find anything earlier. I'm starting to think that the news orgs can't even be bothered to record these events or transcribe them. Less evidence hanging around ...
Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 13, 2010 06:09 PM (N49h9)
I used to post little lists, every so often, of the Indonesian's odd abuse of English during the campaign, when I was commenting at HotAir and trying to explain to people how the imbecile had no American sensibilities, whatsoever. I'll try to run them down.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 13, 2010
06:32 PM (N49h9)
I've been saying since early 2008 that he has been programmed with Americanisms and that things like "Nitally Lions" are programing glitches.
Posted by: baldilocks at April 13, 2010 06:14 PM (GcQgx)
Posted by: td at April 13, 2010 06:20 PM (w7TI0)
I've been saying since early 2008
that he has been programmed with Americanisms and that things like
"Nitally Lions" are programing glitches.
Posted by: baldilocks at April 13, 2010 10:14 PM (GcQgx)
Yep. It's very telling stuff that most people, the entirety of the lame stream media, along with most pundits (conservatives included) just skip right over. And The Precedent seems to have no shame, no sense of embarrassment at all, about making these odd mistakes, constantly. That is what should scare people. Such brazen stupidity (along with transparent deceit, which is also rife through this administration) are signs of very, very bad stuff to come - far worse than anything we've seen so far, which is pretty damn bad, already.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 13, 2010 06:42 PM (N49h9)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2010 08:48 PM (UOM4
I'm no troll. I was hoping there'd more going. Wonder if I should take my kids.
Posted by: elspeth at April 13, 2010 06:51 PM (kN5zS)
Sorry, asshole. All that icky nuclear waste is going right the fuck in Yucca and there is not goddamn thing you can do about.
Posted by: Clever Moniker at April 13, 2010 07:14 PM (qs11W)
Posted by: baldilocks at April 13, 2010 11:14 PM (GcQgx)
I wish. The family could use you. My immediate family is cool and on the ball, but the cousins are ... kind of out there, if you know what I mean. Nice enough people, but bleeding hearts to a fault. A big fault. I've been working on them, though maybe not in the most subtle of ways ...
Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 13, 2010 08:12 PM (N49h9)
Posted by: td at April 13, 2010 09:07 PM (w7TI0)
This was my exact thought when I heard him say that.
******************
Then you were both wrong.
Don't keep asking for the MSM to get things right when you refuse to acknowledge you get things wrong.
Google the expression, then report back.
Posted by: effinayright at April 13, 2010 09:12 PM (3sB5l)
Posted by: Neo at April 13, 2010 09:22 PM (tE8FB)
What the hell are you going on about? I answered your point about the phrase's use in my response to you. The Precedent used it INCORRECTLY in this circumstance, even on top of the generally incorrect and ridiculously pretentious way others tend to use it - mostly people littered through the humanities. Interestingly, people who make mistakes often times when they try to get into science (they would probably still be fanatic anthropogenic global warming supporters, to a man), or to steal more formal expressions from legitimate sciences to try and lend their own rantings a little more credibility, if merely by the sound.
No one ever claimed that this phrase was never used. Further, my contention that The Precedent doesn't understand what the word "calculus" means is without any question, true. I'm not sure what's bugging you about this.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 13, 2010 09:57 PM (N49h9)
North Korea's efforts — and its withdrawal from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty that sets the rules of the road for nuclear technology — kept it out of the Washington summit. Syria, which is suspected by the U.S. and others of harboring nuclear weapons ambitions, also was not invited.
They don't say in the article, but I wonder if Iran was invited....
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Obama got some happy press, so it's all good
Well, that's the important thing.
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 13, 2010 01:14 PM (R2fpr)