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March 03, 2010

Obama's "CyberShield" will be reading your email contents
— Purple Avenger

The Obama administration lifted the veil Tuesday on a highly-secretive set of policies to defend the U.S. from cyber attacks...
...Homeland program known as Einstein...
...The program is designed to look for indicators of cyber attacks by digging into all Internet communications, including the contents of emails, according to the declassified summary...

DHS? An Obama program called Einstein? What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: Purple Avenger at 07:12 PM | Comments (214)
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1 Well then, I hope he reads this: Fuck you Obama!! I am a freedom loving American and I will vote to rid this country of you and anyone like you.

Posted by: Bill R. at March 03, 2010 07:15 PM (EhlQq)

2 I hope they're user friendly about it. Maybe correct my misspellings along the way.

Posted by: Americano at March 03, 2010 07:16 PM (ssrBg)

3 Time to start encrypting all my personal emails.

Posted by: leoncaruthers at March 03, 2010 07:19 PM (JSO4h)

4 Isn't this along the likes of Carnivore?

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 03, 2010 07:20 PM (otlXg)

5 Einstein wasn't smart at anything but math. Odumbo and his Marxist cronies don't even believe in math. This can only end badly.

Posted by: torabora at March 03, 2010 07:20 PM (U4QtB)

6 Oh yeah, this will pass the Constitutional smell test. Jerkoff.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 03, 2010 07:20 PM (oJZe6)

7 Einstein? Albert? Robin's (Gateway) program? Cool

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at March 03, 2010 07:22 PM (ucq49)

8 I am not familiar with this Constitution of which you speak.

Posted by: Charles Gibson at March 03, 2010 07:23 PM (34yXu)

9 So you can't email all your friends about your bowel movements and incidents of vomiting anymore?

Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 07:23 PM (p302b)

10 Stick lots of porn in your emails, that'll slow the snoops down massively.

Posted by: kbdabear at March 03, 2010 07:23 PM (sYxEE)

11 They told me that if I voted for McCain/Palin, the federal government would be snooping into my private email communications without a warrant... ...and they were right!!!

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 03, 2010 07:24 PM (H3uNC)

12 You know who this benefits? Mitt Romney.

Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at March 03, 2010 07:24 PM (H3uNC)

13 I told you Einstein was a progressive!

Posted by: Glenn Beck at March 03, 2010 07:25 PM (06g9S)

14 This is a great tool for protecting America from the bad crazy wingers who make me afraid to go outside the gates at my community.

If you're not a threat to Obama, there's nothing to worry about, so stop bitching that this is a free speech violation.

Besides, it's named Einstein, who was a SCIENTIST

Posted by: Cahrsel Jhonsno at March 03, 2010 07:25 PM (sYxEE)

15 I can haz 1984 now?

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 03, 2010 07:26 PM (CHP78)

16

...uh...does that mean that Obama knows when I'm watching Red Tube?

...well...I suppose after that visit by the SS I shouldn't be surprised. (Yes, really. Liberal politicians scream like little girls when you question their premises...and provide the facts, references and resources to back up your argument. When screaming doesn't work, they fall back on intimidation.)

America. It hasn't been a free nation for decades. The next step for America in the Tytler Cycle is Freedom. We've been living under an oligarchic tyranny for over sixty years.

Google:
The Plain Truth: Beyond Conspiracy: Police State America

Posted by: Warren bonesteel at March 03, 2010 07:26 PM (LS0vp)

17 DHS? An Obama program called Einstein? What could possibly go wrong?

Don't forget, in addition, the Democrats will be there ti make sure everything works just right!

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 03, 2010 07:26 PM (eNxMU)

18 Welcome to the new Soviet Union.

Posted by: USA at March 03, 2010 07:27 PM (YZISw)

19 Is this nightmare about over?

Posted by: kansas at March 03, 2010 07:27 PM (34yXu)

20 Stick lots of porn in your emails

And lots of links to purveyors of quality lace wigs

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 03, 2010 07:28 PM (CHP78)

21 I have heard it said, Einstein could not remember his own telephone number, he wanted to clear his mind for portant shit n stuff. like obummer..

Posted by: Last name first, first name second name last at March 03, 2010 07:28 PM (iKanV)

22 In USA you don't do email, email does you.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 03, 2010 07:29 PM (CHP78)

23 OMG!!!!!! I told you people Bush was going to create a fascist dictatorship .
Wait ,,, what ?
Nevermind .

Posted by: awkward davies at March 03, 2010 07:30 PM (wb68R)

"Besides, it's named Einstein, who was a SCIENTIST"

Peer reviewed?

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at March 03, 2010 07:31 PM (ucq49)

25 This smart, sensible program is why I remain bullish on Obama. This is a true conservative move. It is the essence of true conservatism: good government that works to keep us safe. Once again, Obama proves that he is smarter than his critics. And wiser. And more temperate. And more compassionate and sophisticated and intelligent and mature. Let the wingnuts scream. Obama's protecting them, too. If only they were wise enough to see it. No, this program isn't perfect. It won't let us see inside that vile Sarah Palin's uterus. But it reminds me of why I look upon our brilliant Oakshottean President with pride every day, and thank my Saviour that he is here to deliver us from the Neocons and the Christianists. Know Hope.

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at March 03, 2010 07:35 PM (H3uNC)

26 Umm... wasn't Einstein a communist?

Posted by: alexthedude at March 03, 2010 07:35 PM (5GrY8)

In kid speak an 'Einstein' is someone who does really stupid shit.

"Nice biff, Einstein! Ha Ha!"

Posted by: torabora at March 03, 2010 07:35 PM (U4QtB)

28 A warrantless domestic spying program? Did he campaign on that?

Posted by: JohnJ at March 03, 2010 07:35 PM (OapqJ)

29 Barry and the boys just have our best interests at heart. Besides, it's wrong to listen in on our enemies. They have civil rights. Much better to target domestic e-mail.

Posted by: huerfano at March 03, 2010 07:36 PM (gLSaO)

30 Wait until you see his hometown's program for "Just Enough Socialism in the United States".

Yep -- "Chicago JESUS".

Posted by: cthulhu at March 03, 2010 07:40 PM (u+gbs)

31 O/T: Over at townhall they have this poll: "Do you think Democrat Charlie Rangel will be prosecuted for evading taxes and accepting corporate money for Caribbean trips?" The people overwhelmingly answered no to the poll. Guess our tolerance for crime and dishonorable behavior among our lawmakers is so tempered that we don't even know what is right or wrong anymore.

Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 07:41 PM (p302b)

32 Maybe I should e-mail Skinemax clips to myself? After all, if my e-mails are going to be snooped in, I may as well give them something interesting to look at.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 03, 2010 07:41 PM (otlXg)

33 Remember to end all your emails with this message. "Pray to God that Obama is a one term president." After 100 million of those messages, they will give up reading your email, and everyones else who does this.

Posted by: mystry at March 03, 2010 07:41 PM (kmgIE)

Someone needs to track down every liberal who screamed about the Patriot Act and Bush knowing which books we were checking out from the library, and see if they're ready to switch sides now, or were just really full of shit. We should be able to convert 3% or so.

Posted by: MostlyRight at March 03, 2010 07:43 PM (0aCXd)

35 In Soviet America the party reads your email!

Posted by: Yakov Smirnoff at March 03, 2010 07:43 PM (eWtdM)

36 It never ceases to amaze me. Not only do they think that the American people are stupid but they assume that criminals are stupid as well. I'm sure that criminals ca communicate on the internet and go undetected, however, the tea party people and conservatives and republican communication will be perused with a fine toothed comb.

Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 07:44 PM (p302b)

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Posted by: LC at March 03, 2010 07:44 PM (Aaoov)

38 Well, I assume they broke PGP a long time ago but I'm not in the mood to make it easy for them.

Posted by: joncelli at March 03, 2010 07:44 PM (Ko4Av)

39 I assume anything I say over the phone or on the internet is monitored and filed into a nice database for future use, if needed.

The funny thing is the left complete silence about 'shredding the Constitution' now that their boy is in charge. It is almost like they never really cared and just used the issue as a blunt object to pound the GOP.

Posted by: kefka at March 03, 2010 07:45 PM (n1uMU)

40 Resistance is futile.

Posted by: Mr. T. Borg at March 03, 2010 07:45 PM (yHUFx)

41 Is this why there is a Cat5 cable plugged in my ass?

Posted by: dogfish at March 03, 2010 07:47 PM (sGaoh)

42 I for one, have no problem with this. I have nothing to hide, and if President Obama needs to do this to keep us all safe, then I say "bring it on." I am so happy to support our wonderful new, young president in any way I can. This is absolutely necessary to protect us all. He would never abuse such a program, I'm sure.

Posted by: Ellie Light at March 03, 2010 07:48 PM (CfmlF)

43 It sucks when people read your email.

Posted by: Phil Jones at March 03, 2010 07:48 PM (yHUFx)

44 If only this had been around for O's grandmama, she wouldn't have been afraid of black people.

Posted by: dogfish at March 03, 2010 07:50 PM (sGaoh)

45 I wish teh Won would stop wiping his ass with the Constitution.

Posted by: wherestherum at March 03, 2010 07:50 PM (gofDd)

46 It is almost like they never really cared and just used the issue as a blunt object to pound the GOP.

I'm shocked, I tell you. Shocked. Shocked, I say.

Posted by: wherestherum at March 03, 2010 07:51 PM (gofDd)

47 Tell me about it.

Posted by: Michael Mann at March 03, 2010 07:51 PM (yHUFx)

48 Remember when liberals went nuts because Bush might know they checked out a certain selection of books from their library?

No?

Good, no one else does too.

Posted by: Snarky McSnark at March 03, 2010 07:51 PM (nS7nk)

49 Isn't this along the likes of Carnivore? No, Kratos. Carnivore was when Bush did it and it was bad. Einstein is when Obama does it and it's good. God, man. That was, like, 4 years ago.

Posted by: Zorachus at March 03, 2010 07:52 PM (qc/CQ)

Whew, we sure dodged a bullet with that Bush "Total Information Awareness" thingy, huh?! See, it's all in knowing how to name things! That, and getting the talking points out to the media ahead of time with no nasty leakage, and supportive coverage in the next days and weeks, of course. Mere details when you're a Dem.

Look, morons, we didn't have to wait four years for the friggen right name! If we were just smart enough to elect Presidents from the party that our betters in the media have chosen for us, we could have had this national security tool years ago! When are we going to get over this silly idea we can think for ourselves and just let Big Brother the media do it for us?!

Posted by: sherlock at March 03, 2010 07:53 PM (ktKOD)

51 They ain't never gonna see my emails!

Posted by: Kwame Kilpatrick at March 03, 2010 07:55 PM (yHUFx)

What are the key words or indicators for a cyber attack?

I'm just curious. I'd never think about including any of these in my emails. Or suggesting anyone else should do so.

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at March 03, 2010 07:55 PM (ucq49)

53 @53...when you said "sibur @tt@kk", I think you f'd up. Your doorbell is about to ring.

Posted by: MostlyRight at March 03, 2010 07:57 PM (0aCXd)

54 46 I wish teh Won would stop wiping his ass with the Constitution.

Posted by: wherestherum at March 03, 2010 11:50 PM (gofDd)

Hey, cut me a little slack. Usually by the time the Mrs. get's done wiping hers we've got no t.p, napkins, newspapers, encyclpedias, Bibles, curtains, tablecloths, sheets, carpet, magazine pages, American Flags, etc, etc, left to use. I just gotta go with whats handy.

Posted by: Barry O. at March 03, 2010 07:58 PM (xBcwM)

55 I should have just stayed a clerk.

Posted by: Albert E. at March 03, 2010 08:02 PM (yHUFx)

5 Einstein wasn't smart at anything but math. Odumbo and his Marxist cronies don't even believe in math. This can only end badly.

Actually, Einstein was terrible at math. He couldn't write a formal proof to save his life. His skill was in the instinctive understanding of physics.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 03, 2010 08:03 PM (Vo2Ef)

57 1 Well then, I hope he reads this: Fuck you Obama!! I am a freedom loving American and I will vote to rid this country of you and anyone like you.

Roger that.

Semper Fi

Posted by: Leatherneck at March 03, 2010 08:03 PM (40yOy)

Posted by: Barry O. at March 03, 2010 11:58 PM (xBcwM)

That's very UN-green of you.

Try a water cannon

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at March 03, 2010 08:03 PM (ucq49)

59 Hutzpah! Gimme at least a month to uh, clear up a few things Hussein!

Posted by: Charles Rangle at March 03, 2010 08:03 PM (Fb6jF)

Remember all of the civil libertarians bitching and moaning over Clinton's Echelon program?

Yeah, me neither.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 03, 2010 08:04 PM (Vo2Ef)

61 That's disturbing.

Posted by: rdbrewer at March 03, 2010 08:04 PM (xSZ+r)

62 Hey, Einstein! Eat my shorts!

Posted by: HAL 9000 at March 03, 2010 08:06 PM (yHUFx)

63 Get offa my lawn, little man. I'm self aware.

Posted by: SkyNet at March 03, 2010 08:09 PM (yHUFx)

64 In postwar East Germany, and in the USSR, people were afraid their houses, apartments, cars, and phones were bugged. (because their governments did that sort of flag@whitehousedotgov type of s**t.)

Today we all purchase our bugs, willingly. With calling plans. And we carry them with us. It might actually be the most-advertised item in America, the cellphone.

Posted by: Taqiyy. at March 03, 2010 08:09 PM (ltfED)

65 Obama is really doing a bad thing for the liberals. Not only did he renew the big scary patriot act (that is repeatedly mentioned anytime one says something bad about the current prez), but he's doing a thing that they were afraid Bush was going to do.

Posted by: MANstreammedia at March 03, 2010 08:15 PM (RHgcN)

Can't say I'm surprised with this, I've been reading about the push to give the Executive branch control over the Internet in case of a "cyber attack." They even ran "war games" a few weeks ago and claimed that a virus starting on smart phones could take down the Internet and the power grids.

So rather than publicly announcing the findings and telling people "if your phone or computer is acting strange and you suspect it's got a virus, unplug it, disconnect it from the Internet, or remove the battery."

No, the best response is to give the Government unfettered control over the Internet. No problems with that at all.

Posted by: aggiebc at March 03, 2010 08:17 PM (81ks0)

67 It might actually be the most-advertised item in America, the cellphone.

I want one of them Jack Bauer phones. You know, the ones that work everywhere, even underground, and are encrypted.

he's doing a thing that they were afraid Bush was going to do.

Yeah, but they're okay with him doing it. Bush was eeeevil. He's their guy. They only like fascism when they're on the controlling end.

Posted by: wherestherum at March 03, 2010 08:17 PM (gofDd)

68 I'm sure that criminals can communicate on the internet and go undetected

Steganography. None of you ever knew it, but those occasional pics I post all had plans and instructions for my criminal lackeys embedded in them.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 03, 2010 08:17 PM (CHP78)

69 They told me if I voted for McCain the government would start reading my e-mails . . . they were right!

Posted by: Indy at March 03, 2010 08:18 PM (iDOIJ)

70 claimed that a virus starting on smart phones could take down the Internet and the power grids.

Critical infrastructure or classified military systems operating on the public internet is the problem, not the public internet. That sort of shit needs either dedicated lines, and/or "callback" modems and physical separation from the public internet, period. Anything less is a bogus vulnerable architecture.

One can not hack what one can not access.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 03, 2010 08:23 PM (CHP78)

71 Haha, I just wrote a very drunk email about boners. I fucking hope those prancing panty fairies are reading it.

Posted by: The Dread Pirate Neck Beard at March 03, 2010 08:25 PM (fi7zC)

72 I used to have faith in Google, hoping that these "smartest guys in the tech room" would help the government out with this kind of stuff. But, since a bunch of Chinese hackers were able to get their source code, well, they are the embarrassment of the ages now.

Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 08:26 PM (p302b)

73 What makes this so stupid--so stupid in fact that only a socialist totalitarian thug would support it--is that the only people this could possibly catch actually attempting a "cyber attack" are using dial-up on a per-minute plan, or to put it bluntly: Not one fucking soul!

These jackasses don't even read their favorite treasonous "paper of record" who outed the Bush program and later how it was revealed that the terrorist just started sharing their communiques as drafts on a shared-password e-mail account. They don't even send e-mails anymore!

This is aimed at Americans and Americans alone--them dirty thought criminals who deny the divinity of Teh Won.

GD these fucker really, really want an armed rebellion; there is no innocuous reason they keep pushing and pushing. That's scary. What's even scarier is they think they will win.

Posted by: jimmuy at March 03, 2010 08:26 PM (VzKKc)

74 Privacy advocates going nuts in 5...4....3... hey, butterflies.

Posted by: 29Victor at March 03, 2010 08:28 PM (HaMuw)

75 We can do a lot more than just read your emails

Posted by: Eagle Eye at March 03, 2010 08:28 PM (ucq49)

76 The program is codenamed "Einstein"

They probably wrote it as, "Eyenstein", and have Biden running it.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at March 03, 2010 08:28 PM (A46hP)

77 I assume they broke PGP a long time ago

Crackability per se isn't necessarily the issue with this sort of thing, its the compute power needed for a quasi-real-time crack. Even a relatively weak encryption can take gobs of compute power to bust it in a time frame where the information isn't stale/useless by the time you've cracked it.

In the case of a wildfire type internet outbreak, that crack time better be measured in the tens of seconds if you wanted to be able to put a plug in it before potentially millions of machines were affected.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 03, 2010 08:29 PM (CHP78)

78 So Bush wanting to check who's talking to possible terrorists overseas is evil, but Obama wanting to trawl all internet communications is fine? When did the entire world become an insane asylum?

Posted by: Cortillaen at March 03, 2010 08:30 PM (gusJY)

79 Oh, this is priceless. If we could only harness the energy from the spin on this one...we'd be able to achieve energy independence and reduce CO2 emissions without resorting to $7/gal. gasoline.

Posted by: Fortunate Son at March 03, 2010 08:30 PM (ssWVX)

80 Privacy advocates going nuts in 5...4....3... hey, butterflies.

Posted by: 29Victor at March 04, 2010 12:28 AM (HaMuw)

Yep. Just like the enviro-wackos and lefties went nuts at that other hussein when he intentionally dumped 40,000,000 barrels of oil into the gulf and lit just about every oil well in Kuwait on fire. The silence was absolutely deafening.

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Posted by: Einstein at March 03, 2010 08:31 PM (jnaVQ)

82 When did the entire world become an insane asylum? 20/1700Z Jan 2001

Posted by: PKO Strany at March 03, 2010 08:33 PM (1rQWu)

83 69 I'm sure that criminals can communicate on the internet and go undetected

Steganography. None of you ever knew it, but those occasional pics I post all had plans and instructions for my criminal lackeys embedded in them.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 04, 2010 12:17 AM (CHP7

I just had something interesting and insightful to say, but this POS page that was coded by a fucking autistic monkey ate it.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at March 03, 2010 08:33 PM (F09Uo)

84 Start BCC'ing the White House on every single e-mail you send.

Posted by: arhooley at March 03, 2010 08:34 PM (2zkIP)

85 When did the entire world become an insane asylum?

[sigh] Its always been that way. For every freedom and privacy loving individual, there's probably 10 would be totalitarians ready to stomp on their necks with a jackboot.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 03, 2010 08:35 PM (CHP78)

86 Batchelor said when interviewing his go to guy for Is Real? that they have started distributing gaz maks .... that can't be good....

Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 08:36 PM (p302b)

87 Oh man, Einstein. All this talk of men in uniforms checking me out is getting me all hawt.

Posted by: The Dread Pirate Neck Beard at March 03, 2010 08:36 PM (fi7zC)

88 I used to have faith in Google, hoping that these "smartest guys in the tech room" would help the government out with this kind of stuff. But, since a bunch of Chinese hackers were able to get their source code, well, they are the embarrassment of the ages now.

Heh, heard about that. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of accomplices.

Posted by: arhooley at March 03, 2010 08:37 PM (2zkIP)

89 I've read everything you people have said and I'm telling on you.

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 03, 2010 08:38 PM (+54jQ)

90 Google would be perfectly comfortable being Big Brother if the Feds weren't bucking for that gig.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 03, 2010 08:39 PM (CHP78)

91 "Dear Ma:

"Thanks for your email; I really enjoyed it! Nothing much to report from this end; life just goes on as usual...

"Things are pretty quiet at work. Two people got canned last week but what else is new, ya know? It isn't the greatest job in the world but who can complain too much these days? Showed those pictures of the family reunion to Stacey and she thought they were great; we're both sorry we couldn't make it this year. And yes, Ma, I KNOW; grandchildren; just hold your horses and let's just see how things go this year first...

"Well, I guess I have to wrap this up now so I'll say goodbye and all my love to everyone. Oh, and that they all should always remember that Barack Obama is a purple-lipped bat-eared pool of ten-day-old diarrhea explosion and that Democrats are totalitarian subhuman pigs whose heads should rammed down into the dirt with the aid of railroad spikes. All my best to everyone and talk to you soon!

"Love,
-Bill"

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at March 03, 2010 08:42 PM (lKomJ)

92 Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at March 04, 2010 12:42 AM (lKomJ)

You have to give a warning for posts like that...like "warning do not take a sip of your soda prior to reading this".....

Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 08:46 PM (p302b)

93 When did the entire world become an insane asylum?

Posted by: PKO Strany at March 04, 2010 12:33 AM (1rQWu)

America suffered an extreme, psychotic break with the onset of the credit crisis and manifested the worst part of the pathology on Nov 4th. People made the most frivolous choice possible at one of the most consequential of times. It was, without a doubt, a declaration of national suicide. Now, many people are waking up to what they did. But, a great deal of damage (much irreparable) has already been done and their suicidal vote, while in the throes of that deep psychosis, is still operative and eating away at the very fabric of this nation.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at March 03, 2010 08:48 PM (A46hP)

94 For years...and I do mean years I bitched about DHS. I knew this shit was coming. It started with our cellphones..and all my friends rolled their fuckin' eyes at me. Even when DHS was under the Bush white house I was complaining. Once a bureaucracy is in place, it stays in place and the next person in power could be a saint or a devil at the switch. That is why you never give them a chance. DAMN.

Posted by: vai2112 at March 03, 2010 08:48 PM (TcILN)

95 Posted by: vai2112 at March 04, 2010 12:48 AM (TcILN)

I keep telling my friends that DHS is no longer on its own that it is under the auspices of Eric and his department and they don't believe me.

Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 08:50 PM (p302b)

96 The ironic bit is that Einstein fled Germany to get away from precisely this kind of nonsense.

Posted by: rawmuse at March 03, 2010 08:53 PM (zAVye)

97 Posted by: curious at March 04, 2010 12:50 AM (p302b) You average Americans have lost the ability to think ahead. They only think in the present. But it only takes a little brainpower to realize that what started under Bush, whether you loved him or hated him would eventually be passed on a president that might not be on the level. Obama and his goon squad are not on the level. I wouldn't trust them to cat sit for me. Also, hey lefties! Where's the consistency? FISA? Patriot Act? And now this? When Bush did it you screamed Fascism - Now Obama's doing it and I don't hear a fuckin' peep. At least I know I've been bitchin' for years about this.

Posted by: vai2112 at March 03, 2010 08:55 PM (TcILN)

98 #92 LOL!

#97 should be appended onto the main post.

Posted by: Taqiyyotomist at March 03, 2010 09:00 PM (ltfED)

99 Once a bureaucracy is in place, it stays in place and the next person in power could be a saint or a devil at the switch. That is why you never give them a chance. DAMN.

I used that reasoning on a lefty friend recently re ObamaCare. "Y'know, the Democrats aren't going to be in power forever. Someday the Republicans will be back, and they'll inherit all that machinery and power structure. The minute they do, BAM! You get your miscarriage investigated by the police. You have to explain to a doctor approved by Sarah Palin why you want a vasectomy. You're not sure who knows you have irritable bowel syndrome." It freaked him out a bit.

Posted by: arhooley at March 03, 2010 09:03 PM (2zkIP)

100 Not too worried about it, I heard the CRU and IPCC are doing the programming.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 03, 2010 09:07 PM (cpuvG)

101 @100 you are correct. I have a lefty friend who said that he was petitioning to get Rush off the air, on the basis that he was using the public airwaves. I said, fine, but when the worm turns, (and it always does) we are coming after "The View". He shut up quick.

Posted by: rawmuse at March 03, 2010 09:12 PM (zAVye)

102 wow, just heard the audio of Gates' talking about the world population heading toward 9 million and saying if we do a really good job of it, vaccines, health care and reproductive care we can lower that by 10 or 15%. Sheesh that sure sounds like he wants to thin the herd. No wonder all these young parents are afraid to give their kids vaccines.

Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 09:14 PM (p302b)

103 Not too worried about it, I heard the CRU and IPCC are doing the programming.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 04, 2010 01:07 AM (cpuvG)

That worries me more than anything. The CRU and IPCC like their fudge factors and discretionary variables far too much.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at March 03, 2010 09:17 PM (A46hP)

104 http://mozaiq.org/encrypt/

Steganography is neato.

Posted by: Taqiyyotomist at March 03, 2010 09:20 PM (ltfED)

105 44 It sucks when people read your email.

Posted by: Phil Jones at March 03, 2010 11:48 PM (yHUFx)

Thread winner.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 03, 2010 09:21 PM (eNxMU)

106 You sure it's not called "ein zwei"?

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 03, 2010 09:23 PM (5I0Yr)

107 FUCK YOU BILDERBERG GROUP!!!

Posted by: Alex Jones at March 03, 2010 09:29 PM (gAmQ1)

108 O/T: Said it last night, NYer's are so predictable: "NY poll: Voters say Paterson shouldn't quit"

Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 09:32 PM (p302b)

109 For all my confidential e-mails, I use PGP on my Unix shell account.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at March 03, 2010 09:39 PM (Q75cY)

110 Way long ago, in the early '80s, my brother and I were both in the Marines. We'd heard from somewhere that there was a huge super computer complex that was listening into half the telephone convos at any one time and screening calls for drug related words as part of the War on Drugs.

We didn't know if it was true or not. But we decided to have fun with it, just in case.

So, our phone convos went like this:

Me: Hey bro, hows the cocaine?
Him: Not bad bro, how's your cocaine?
Me: All good. Hey, I got 15 days cocaine time coming up next month. Can you get cut loose?
Him: Yeah. Where you want to go for cocaine?
Me: Pattaya Beach?
Him: No, the cocaine there sucks and it's too expensive. How about Subic Bay?
Me: Yeah. The cocaine there is good.
Him: When you leaving for your cocaine?
Me: 10th next.
Him: See you there. Happy cocaine to you. Viva La North Korea.
Me: Happy cocaine to you too, bro. Commies Rule.

We never once got a visit, a letter or anything. We were so disappointed.

Posted by: Grimmy at March 03, 2010 09:47 PM (ZlCni)

111 In one of the Brad Thor books, the terrorists would use a yahoo mail account that they all could access. A message would be written and saved in the draft folder. The intended recipient would log in, read the message and then delete the draft. Since it was never sent out into the internets, it couldn't be monitored.

I know it's fiction, but just wondering if such a simple solution was feasible.

Posted by: mpur at March 03, 2010 09:53 PM (7m5P2)

112 SPAM

Posted by: shape ups shoes blow dogs at March 03, 2010 10:00 PM (BCFs6)

113 but just wondering if such a simple solution was feasible.

Sure, and quite secure if accessed only from public library computers. Of course some server somewhere still contains the draft, but even that could be typed in using an uncrackable coding -- when the email account ID/passwords are handed out, you'd just hand out a set of "one-time pads" as well.

One-time pad encryptions are not machine crackable.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 03, 2010 10:00 PM (CHP78)

114 there.is.only.xul

Posted by: mojo at March 03, 2010 10:02 PM (D6Uk6)

115 On the plus side, that guy who keeps e-mailing from Nigeria looking for someone to take care of his money will find a sympathetic reader.

Posted by: Cameron Wood at March 03, 2010 10:09 PM (tqFaK)

116 The intended recipient would log in, read the message and then delete the draft. Since it was never sent out into the internets, it couldn't be monitored.

I know it's fiction, but just wondering if such a simple solution was feasible.

Posted by: mpur at March 04, 2010 01:53 AM (7m5P2)

That message is still going across the Internet when it's composed in plain text.

I still say use Flickr photos as keys, and it would be better than a one time cypher pad.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at March 03, 2010 10:11 PM (F09Uo)

117 Einstein? Well, they couldn't do the obvious and name it Fuckwit, could they?

Posted by: Ernst Mach at March 03, 2010 10:16 PM (V51Hp)

118 Much Ado about Nothing. The Einstein program only scans info entering/exiting .gov networks. Which makes a lot more sense since there's no way they'd have the computing power, let alone bandwidth, to scan the entire US net or overseas pipes for this approach to be remotely useful.

Posted by: ravenshrike at March 03, 2010 10:19 PM (C63A/)

119 Where are the screeching howls, that sounded like Janis Joplin singing while beeing turned into some well marinated hamburger meet throgh a meet grinder, that accompanied the NYT's effort to support the terrorists when it disclosed that Bush listened into the cell phone calls to and from the families of known terroritsts? AT least we know that Barack Hussein Obama and his mentor. Sol Alinsky, have only the best interests of the U.S.A at heart.....

Posted by: Moron at March 03, 2010 10:36 PM (2h3VW)

120 there is a national emergency foaming in my pants and I must for national security sake scan the entire body of the beautiful s. korean figure skater, Lee Wa Mu . If the foaming in my pants is not soon satiated, then I fear a visit from the UN International Atomic Commission is right around the corner; no, not the corner where I buy my Johnny Walker Blue, the other corner, stupid.

Posted by: Moron at March 03, 2010 10:40 PM (2h3VW)

121 How does this mess not end in violence at some point in the relatively near future?

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at March 03, 2010 11:27 PM (8MuSQ)

122 What could possibly go wrong? Comrade Obama, or should I say Comrade Hussien Oboma is filling all sorts of terrorist loving people to his government now. But why worry? Just because the lawyers worked for free to the said terrorists. They must have sworn not to nuke NYC. The war on terror is over. When NYC goes up in a mushroom cloud, it was Bush's fault.

Posted by: Comrade Trotsky at March 03, 2010 11:53 PM (pU4D7)

123 avoid e-mail.... we can all just post on Facebook and we're good!

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 04, 2010 12:33 AM (d1FhN)

124 Suck it up, boys, this is nothing new.

You were all in favor of this when it was Bush's peeps reading all emails and gathering phone data. And that "Terrorist Surveillance Program" is still going on, scanning your emails.

Posted by: bohica at March 04, 2010 12:37 AM (avEVS)

125 @125 Ummm, no, we weren't, you obviously haven't been here before, or didn't bother to read if you were.

Posted by: kurtilator at March 04, 2010 01:34 AM (juh4Z)

126 I BLAME BOOOOSH!!!

Posted by: Cahrles Johanssen the Green at March 04, 2010 02:22 AM (Dd+m6)

127 Hey, Bruno Napalitano, you clumsy dyke, how do you like me now?

Posted by: BulgarWheat at March 04, 2010 02:51 AM (Ufktk)

128

e mail...

Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charles Gibson at March 04, 2010 03:02 AM (Dd+m6)

129

125,

Try again.

I stated way back when your Jungle John Kerry was the Frenchurian candidate that all these programs the GOP was willing to watch get enacted thanks to the War on terror were going to be abused by the Frenchurian candidate or whichever member of the jackass party got power.....

I thought that Kerry was the most egotistical inept bastard you morons could run, boy did I get taught a lesson.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 04, 2010 03:07 AM (9BaoO)

130 i just figured it out.

the postal system is struggling.

what better way to get people to resort to traditional mail than to threaten to essentially read all e-mail?

it's brilliant, don't you see...?

Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at March 04, 2010 03:18 AM (IspQQ)

131 Ot: NY-Demoncrat Eric Massa is in gay-sex-scandal trouble. His name sounded familiar; he's one of the I'll-vote-against-my-District's-interests-on-healthcare jerks. BUH BYE!

Posted by: ParisParamus at March 04, 2010 03:22 AM (flcpl)

132 Ahhh.... love the smell of a sunset in the morning!

Smells like,

the daily grind

Posted by: Mjim at March 04, 2010 03:23 AM (V8B//)

133 133, I'm not going to defend Massa, he's a creep through and through, but didn't he actually vote against the health care monstrosity the first time around...

Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at March 04, 2010 03:25 AM (IspQQ)

134 Well then, I hope he reads this: Fuck you Obama!!

Waaaaaaaay back in the day, George Carlin talked about the fact that he believed the FBI had his phone tapped since he was a "subversive." He claimed that every time he answered the phone, he said, "Fuck Hoover. Hello."

Posted by: Steve L. at March 04, 2010 03:25 AM (Gkhxf)

135 (though his reasons iirc were that it wasn't monstrously government-y enough, granted, but still, in some cases, the enemy of my enemy...)

Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at March 04, 2010 03:26 AM (IspQQ)

136 I for one accepted long ago, that big brother can watch me through my own eyes.

Alien tech from area 51

Posted by: Mjim at March 04, 2010 03:31 AM (V8B//)

137

if bambi wants to watch me, fine business. but what about watching internal emails of Republican campaigns? wouldn't leaking that info to the Dems help the Dems?

of course, this will benefit the Republicans when they gain control.

the constitutional test: do I have an expectation of privacy in emails (probably not under any circumstances) v. national security. National security would trump most everything.

hard wire phones safer because they can't tap 'em all.

Posted by: kelley in virginia at March 04, 2010 03:36 AM (Oan2w)

138 132, you may be correct, a scare to help out the Postal Service.

I wonder why they're in so much trouble? Could it be that they have to run under Civil Service rules?
Can it be that it's virtually impossible to fire anyone who works is employed there?

I wonder if UPS was profitable last year?
How about FedEx?

Posted by: Dastardly Dan at March 04, 2010 03:46 AM (+SZAJ)

139 I do not have an anal probe!

Posted by: Eric Cartman at March 04, 2010 03:55 AM (mKB5r)

140 133, I'm not going to defend Massa, he's a creep through and through, but didn't he actually vote against the health care monstrosity the first time around...

Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at March 04, 2010 07:25 AM (IspQQ)

Yes, but because he ONLY wants single payer. Nothing else.

Posted by: Tami at March 04, 2010 03:57 AM (VuLos)

141 I got no problem if it's used for national security

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 04, 2010 04:10 AM (0GFWk)

142

144,

You are missing the nuance.

To the democrats their losing power IS a national security issue. They tried to make the sell that AGW is a "national security issue", they have tried to claim that "green jobs" are a "national security issue", pretty much everything but Radical Muslim terrorists wanting to kill us is a "national security issue" to their minds.

"keep the change"

Posted by: sven10077 at March 04, 2010 04:14 AM (9BaoO)

143

Good Morning Morons:

I don't have too much of a problem with this IF it is not abused. I do, however, note the strange silence from the MSM and the rest of the left when they screamed bloody murder because Bush used data mining to find terrorists.

Posted by: Vic at March 04, 2010 04:17 AM (QrA9E)

144 however, note the strange silence from the MSM and the rest of the left when they screamed bloody murder because Bush used data mining to find terrorists.

Ya... how about that? I noticed it as well.
They seem to have the attitude of... "its ok if we do it"

Posted by: Mjim at March 04, 2010 04:19 AM (V8B//)

145 132 i just figured it out.

the postal system is struggling.

what better way to get people to resort to traditional mail than to threaten to essentially read all e-mail?

it's brilliant, don't you see...?

Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at March 04, 2010 07:18 AM (IspQQ)

i really hope you competed in debate in school. this is an example of what i call sensible insanity; love it.

Posted by: dudeinsantacruz at March 04, 2010 04:19 AM (3wYSZ)

146 Suck it up, boys, this is nothing new.

You were all in favor of this when it was Bush's peeps reading all emails and gathering phone data. And that "Terrorist Surveillance Program" is still going on, scanning your emails.

Posted by: bohica at March 04, 2010 04:37 AM (avEVS)

And obviously all your wailing and gnashing of teeth about domestic spying and shredding the Constitution was a load of horseshit.

Posted by: FUBAR at March 04, 2010 04:24 AM (1fanL)

147

Read ALL E-Mail??????

Hahahahaha, that would sure help the unemployment. They would have to hire about 10 million "readers" as gov employees. Hey, then everybody would be a gov employee.

Hmmmmm, they used to have a name for that when everyone earned their living from the State????

Yes, they called it....Communism!!!

Posted by: Vic at March 04, 2010 04:24 AM (QrA9E)

148 He's just trying to get the foot in the door on all that sweet Nigerian money to finance his gargantuan deficit.

And probably get some of those Penis Enlargement Pills, too.

Posted by: nickless at March 04, 2010 04:30 AM (MMC8r)

149 Is DUUUH WON paranoid? Spying on "his" counties "enemies". OOHH shit! That's US.

Posted by: harleycowboy at March 04, 2010 04:30 AM (JKGfQ)

150 And probably get some of those Penis Enlargement Pills, too.

That'd be a good way to make the dickhead's ears not look like batwings.

Posted by: MikeO at March 04, 2010 04:35 AM (lBmZl)

151 So the best way to subvert this is to simply copy and paste from 4chan?

Posted by: todler at March 04, 2010 04:37 AM (fPOY0)

152 maybe this is a program aimed at just archiving various politians' activities for the NSAs own use. oh, you tried to cut our funding? maybe you shouldn't have had that affair with your intern. you badmouth us in public? maybe you ought not have bought all of that peruvian marching powder. you want to make us work with other federal agencies? yeah, probably would have worked out if you hadn't bragged about starring in a donkey show (as an ass, but not THE ass, heh) while being at the "undisclosed location" during the SoTUA.

Posted by: dudeinsantacruz at March 04, 2010 04:42 AM (3wYSZ)

153

To the democrats their losing power IS a national security issue. They tried to make the sell that AGW is a "national security issue", they have tried to claim that "green jobs" are a "national security issue", pretty much everything but Radical Muslim terrorists wanting to kill us is a "national security issue" to their minds.

You forgot obesity.

Posted by: Tinian at March 04, 2010 04:48 AM (7+pP9)

154 One if by land, chump.

Posted by: Ken at March 04, 2010 04:50 AM (vT7rz)

155 There's no need to worry if it runs on Windows.

Posted by: Fritz at March 04, 2010 04:56 AM (GwPRU)

156 The new formula is Email = mc².

Posted by: Usful Ijit at March 04, 2010 04:57 AM (ySEBp)

157 148, of course.

plus years of honing my ability to needle my liberal friends to the point of insanity on a vicious e-mail chain.

Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at March 04, 2010 05:00 AM (IspQQ)

158 Just remember this program was running when the whole fishy email thing went down...so all your data has been logged and flagged. I personally don't care who's reading anything I write until I move to a more interesting place like highlands terrace or bluffs end. Government assinations only happen at cool sounding places like ruby ridge or waco. Rural connecticut doesn't flow off the tongue.

Posted by: evil libertarian at March 04, 2010 05:02 AM (SYpy+)

159

@112: In one of the Brad Thor books, the terrorists would use a yahoo mail account that they all could access...

There was a splash in the media a little while ago about Cisco providing backdoors to the government for surveillance purposes...I don't think they need access to the mail server...if the data travels through a router somewhere, which it has to, it'll get picked up.

Cisco handholds hackers to backdoor

Posted by: CanaDave at March 04, 2010 05:07 AM (EEuJO)

160 i hope they don't use this as blackmail . i bet they will send my mother in law my missive telling all about the ham sammich i ate a few months ago, not only that i fed one to her son.

Posted by: willow's hiding underground at March 04, 2010 05:19 AM (7FgWm)

161 I wonder why they're in so much trouble?

Operating costs. UPS/FedEx don't even come close to physically stopping at (or at least driving by) almost every deliverable address in the nation on an almost daily basis.

UPS/FedEx also have FAR fewer company operated brick/mortar locations they have to maintain. A huge amount of the facilities cost the Post Office absorbs has been farmed out to OfficeMax, Office Depot, and Pack&Ship type places.

If UPS/FedEx had to operate as pervasively on a daily basis as the post office does, they'd suddenly be in deep trouble too and an ordinary letter would cost well over a dollar to send.

UPS and FedEx also have zero interest if you're defrauded by someone using their service; too bad for you; better luck next time. The whole Postal Inspectors arm of the post office that tracks down and builds cases to prosecute mail frauds has to be operating at a paper loss, but something that affords citizens a lot of protection.

I've had some dealings with the Postal Inspectors in the past over a small eBay purchase that totaled just over $10. When I sent the complaint form in, I wasn't expecting much because the amount was so small, but a few months later the crooked seller did send my $10 back and seemed irritated I'd sic the Feds on him over a paltry $10. Apparently the postal inspectors are very serious and relentless about mail fraud, even when the transaction value is small. I find some measure of comfort in that. Even if we have to pay for it, that's a value that private enterprise is largely unequipped to provide or have any interest in.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 04, 2010 05:19 AM (+JHKW)

162 PA - What bother me about the Post Office is that they charge you for their lowest (or lower) operating cost method for mail delivery -- PO Boxes. We should be paying more for home delivery, unless the junk mail is really that lucrative.

Posted by: Jean at March 04, 2010 05:24 AM (vdIdO)

163 THREADWINNER #42. Massa...voted against the health care bill because men's sexual needs were not included in the "package".

Posted by: ford at March 04, 2010 05:25 AM (Ki7fm)

164 My only problem with this is the goofy name. Just give it some random numeric project code and stop scaring people.

Posted by: Jean at March 04, 2010 05:26 AM (aw1L9)

165 PS... I thought Obama was sleeping with his "cybershield".

Posted by: ford at March 04, 2010 05:26 AM (Ki7fm)

166 ...all in all a good day on the farm.

Posted by: animal farm at March 04, 2010 05:27 AM (Ki7fm)

167 #39 your just making the filtering easier -- be a fish.

Posted by: Jean at March 04, 2010 05:30 AM (7K04W)

168 unless the junk mail is really that lucrative.

Yea, it is. It gets cheap rates, but in exchange for that, its delivered to the post office barcoded, presorted, etc. Just the barcoding alone allows for completely automated sorting/handling. Junk mail is a money maker for the post office.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 04, 2010 05:34 AM (+JHKW)

169 Would this stop lace wig and CDKey spam? Because I'd be all for it in that case.

Posted by: Ace's Comments Box at March 04, 2010 05:38 AM (4JpPD)

170

156 Tinian,

Depends on what day of the week it is, and whether or not Barry's Worf is an "official spokesbeing" that day.....

Interesting tidbit I saw displayed while Lt. Worf was going on about the necessity for the Feds to micromanage my child's lunch choices for school....

the Board of education in Jackson MS got over 35 million in Porkulus bucks.....

Do a quick thumbnail, most counties in the US average a minimum of 4 districts per county.

4* 35 million=140,000,000

Ohio for example has 88 counties

88*140,000,000=12,320,000,000

50 states*12,320,000,000=616,000,000,000

So if we gave every distrcit the treatment that jackson MS got it'd "only" cost 616 billion dollars......

I better shut up or I might give Jugears the Clown ideas......

Posted by: sven10077 at March 04, 2010 05:39 AM (9BaoO)

171

Damn you Obama and your "Einstein" program.

How are we to coordinate our cyberattacks if we can't email each other from various parts of the globe and say "Time to launch our super-secret cyber attack on the United States. Synch your watches; we initiate the attack in ten minutes!"

Curses. Foiled again.

Posted by: Chinese Cyber Attacker at March 04, 2010 05:40 AM (fDWFP)

172 I don't have time to read all the posts here, but the snark is delicious. By the way, charlie gibson, it's "What is this Constitution thingie of which you speak. FIFY

Posted by: timothyJ at March 04, 2010 05:47 AM (IKKIf)

173 174

Damn you Obama and your "Einstein" program.

Curses. Foiled again.

Posted by: Chinese Cyber Attacker at March 04, 2010 09:40 AM (fDWFP)

Time to hide the messages in the fortune cookies?

Posted by: todler at March 04, 2010 05:47 AM (fPOY0)

174 the Board of education in Jackson MS got over 35 million in Porkulus bucks.....

And it's not going to improve the schools one bit, I guarantee you. I'm betting it's all going to the petty bureaucrats who run that disaster. I used to live and work in Jackson. Most people with kids would do anything they had to do, NOT to send their kids to Jackson Public Schools.

Posted by: Angry Beaver at March 04, 2010 05:48 AM (CCI7G)

175 This will only apply to American citizens sending emails in English. Illegals and Muslims will be exempt.

Posted by: The DHS at March 04, 2010 05:51 AM (OKZrE)

176

177,

Quite.

The notion that "if we just spend more money on the darlings or pay teachers enough it will all fix itself!" is a big part of the problem.

If anything a very serious paper could be composed and published showing an inverse causation between money spent per pupil and performance I'd wager.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 04, 2010 05:52 AM (9BaoO)

177 Let's see Obama-criminals emails......I am happy to show mine in return for that.....

Posted by: rightzilla at March 04, 2010 06:29 AM (rVJH4)

178 Bomb.             Terrorist.        Library Tower.
April 15, 2010.     10 airplanes.        Al Qaeda.
Obama called.          Panetta ok'd.           Blow me.

This ought to keep them busy for awhile.

Posted by: the flaming dildo at March 04, 2010 06:53 AM (pOOCt)

179 Yeah, but is your library card safe?

Posted by: bill-tb at March 04, 2010 07:01 AM (y+QfZ)

180 During wartime as CIC a President has unlimited powers. Didn't you get my memo ?

Posted by: Yoo at March 04, 2010 07:02 AM (mhD2v)

181 Sounds like I will have to use a jpeg for my signature in every email from now on and encrypt the following text in it. Fuck you jug eared douchebag marxist and your Wookie too.

Posted by: TexBob at March 04, 2010 07:07 AM (2jp4I)

182 Using Steganography, this can tie up the NSA decrypting all the graphics with special messages to the annointed man child and his government minions.

Posted by: TexBob at March 04, 2010 07:08 AM (2jp4I)

183

Ok, I know it's already been said in this thread, but weren't we reminded, and aren't we still constantly reminded by the left that BOOOOSH and the Rethuglicans/Wingnuts/Eeeeevil Neocons/Rightards/etc trampled on, shredded, and wiped their asses with The Constitution because of the Patriot Act? Even though not a single fucking one of them can give any real example about a citizen who had their rights infringed upon because of it.

I guess now that Obummer and his merry band of fucktards have refined things to feed their leftist knobslobbers their daily allowance of nuance, The Constitution has been restored in their tiny little mindthoughts.

I'm not ready to denounce this thing completely yet, but this is the sort of shit the left went full pants-on-head retard about for years. And you still hear about it in cesspools of rabid ignorance like the NYT online comments section.

These folks are gonna make a maniac outta me yet.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 04, 2010 07:11 AM (U37Ux)

184 Does that include blog comments? I knew you guys were going to get me in trouble!

Posted by: katya at March 04, 2010 07:30 AM (d/1I7)

185 I thought they were already doing this. Does this just put a patina of legality over it?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at March 04, 2010 07:30 AM (RZ8pf)

186 So, the govt. can't profile suspected terrorists, but they can invade the privacy of legal, law-abiding citizens. Color me not surprised.

Posted by: katya at March 04, 2010 07:32 AM (d/1I7)

187

I'ma changing my email signature to include:

'Sup, Barry?

Posted by: reason at March 04, 2010 07:58 AM (q/kmn)

188

"I thought they were already doing this. Does this just put a patina of legality over it?"

Glad to see you're living up to your name.

Posted by: reason at March 04, 2010 07:59 AM (q/kmn)

189 You expect anyone to swallow this bilge? Conservatives were all for this sh*t when Bush and Cheney were the ones proposing the loss of our Constitutional rights, all in the name of 'national security' and 'public safety'. Now, because it's a Democrat, suddenly you're all against it. Stop the f*cking hypocrisy.

Posted by: JEA at March 04, 2010 08:01 AM (ZO0u/)

190 And I, JEA, certainly never advocated the violent overthrow of the government during the blood-thirsty reign of Bush/Cheney or donated money to HAMAS. Nor did I try to buy uranium for my Iranian paymasters.

Posted by: JEA at March 04, 2010 08:05 AM (tcMQZ)

191

195 Jug Ears Anonymous,

What bilge your jug-eye moron ran on "stopping the illegal Bush actions" early on until he calculated he may in fact get the big chair.....

Hypocrisy is when a party spends 6 years shitting itself for atttention and then when it finally gets the birthday biy chair through their passive-aggressive actions pretends their shit doesn't stink.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 04, 2010 08:06 AM (9BaoO)

192 I thought he saw them anyway, after all isn't he the most intelligent man in the history of the universe?

Posted by: Mudshark at March 04, 2010 08:12 AM (11AAY)

193 E = MC ^{the system worked}

Posted by: Buffalobob at March 04, 2010 08:22 AM (XjviO)

194 The irony of toby trying in vain to be ironic is ironic

Posted by: JEA at March 04, 2010 08:31 AM (ZO0u/)

195 Stop the f*cking hypocrisy.

So it is OK with a Dem doing it now, eh?

You expect anyone to swallow this bilge?

I haven't seen you denouncing Obama's flavor of the day yet. Surprise us.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 04, 2010 08:33 AM (+JHKW)

196

The burden of being such a brilliant mind, like Obama, is that he sees his own mistakes, sometimes immediately.

So every time he changes from excoriating the previous administration for an idea to embracing and furthering that idea, that is only proof of his incredible, supreme brilliance.

Now if you'll excuse me, I've got to get ready for my three-martini lunch with Van Jones.

Posted by: Valerie Jarrett at March 04, 2010 08:35 AM (sPO/s)

197

It's like rain...on your wedding day.

Or free healthcare...when you've already paid.

Posted by: reason at March 04, 2010 08:37 AM (sPO/s)

198 If they used this for weeding out the terrorists, fine. They wont though. Janet will be making sure she catches 'domestic extremists'.

Puh fucking LEASE

Posted by: MelodicMetal at March 04, 2010 08:44 AM (x4S2a)

199 Erg/JEA has a new blog! Hit the link in their comments

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 04, 2010 08:45 AM (+JHKW)

200
Look at how dumb JEA is.

Let's all point and laugh.

Posted by: Warden at March 04, 2010 09:00 AM (TIGTh)

201 All your emails are belong to us!

Posted by: COLOSSUS at March 04, 2010 09:01 AM (WmZrs)

202 Indicators of cyber attacks include frequent use of the words Sarah Palin, President Booby-Pecs, Wookie Sex, Freedom, 2nd Amendment, Capitalism, Tea Party, Hobo Hunting, and God.

Posted by: Warden at March 04, 2010 09:03 AM (TIGTh)

203 Bet your ass it's going to profile Republicans.

Posted by: iowavette at March 04, 2010 09:07 AM (0JTac)

204 Maybe we should all go back to writting letters. (with invisable ink)

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Posted by: franksalterego the Encoder at March 04, 2010 10:04 AM (+6fgE)

206

JEA = useful idiot.

This is the kind of dolt that will sing hosannas to the commie government even after they've thrown his ass into a death camp. Right up until the bullet smashes into the back of his head, he'll be praising dear leader.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 04, 2010 10:11 AM (P33XN)

207 I hope they read my e-mail all they want, they'll die of boredom. Or schmaltz from my grandkids' pictures and cute baby bunnies. That'll fix 'em.

Posted by: Sarah2053 at March 04, 2010 10:27 AM (lT+S8)

208

#61

Actually, I do remember civil libertarians bitching over Echelon. Talk show host Neal Boortz even publicized the Jam Echelon Day stunt.

Posted by: The Sanity Inspector at March 04, 2010 12:27 PM (uw+0A)

209 an enterprising artist could sell email tags of 3 of them on a donkey, etc.etc.

Posted by: ron dorque at March 04, 2010 02:50 PM (WxvOk)

210 Go screw yourself Steve Dunham Barry Soetoro Mubarack Hussein Obama Barack Obama or whatever the fuck your name is you pustulated piece of shit poseur POTUS.

Posted by: S. Wolf at March 04, 2010 09:27 PM (gbnWr)