1 For the cost of Obama's spendulus, the U.S. could have had an income tax moratorium for a year

And with that kind of money liberals could have started a health care collective that would have done everything they claimed they wanted - instead of forcing Obamacare on the populace.

2 ... 69% of voters say it is at least somewhat important for the government to launch a new program designed to create jobs, ... 69% of the voters probably think it's the President's job to manage the economy.

3 Just 18% think increasing government spending is the better way to go.

So we are only 18% of the population?

4 Still, 69% of voters say it is at least somewhat important for the government to launch a new program designed to create jobs,

No need to take it back, because I would have said yes too.  The new program in my head when answering this question would have been an across the board flat tax, or at a minimum, cuts in corporate taxes.

5 "For the cost of Obama's spendulus, the U.S. could have had an income tax moratorium for a year." Don't fall into that trap, Gabe. Tax cuts don't cost the government anything. It's not their fucking money to begin with.

6 The American People (or at least too many of them) are just not clear on the concept.

7

Our government always has to look like they're "doing something" or people might think we don't really need tham after all.

8 Still, 69% of voters say it is at least somewhat important for the government to launch a new program designed to create jobs, with 50% who believe it is very important. Only 27% say such a program is not very or not at all important.

Got to hand it to the libs, they've done a fine job in convincing enough people that the government "creates" jobs. 

Guess we need "global governance" now to prevent another financial crisis.

9 Still, 69% of voters say it is at least somewhat important for the government to launch a new program designed to create jobs

If you change "new program" to "new stimulus package" you wouldn't get 69% support.  "Program" is too ambiguous.

10 5, True. I'd substitute "scale" for "cost".

11 I wonder if that same 69% would burn the Constitution in trade for government-care-for-life?

12 Sigh....We are doomed.

13

It'd be nice if we had a party that actually implemented commensurate cuts in spending.

14 13 Sigh....We are doomed.

In the end, there will be only chaos. 

Old news, but shows how the government does things. 
GM is paying back Uncle Sam to shake him down for more money.

15 For Magic Negro afficionados, Bagger Vance is on TNT.

16
"There is hopeful"?  Talk like Yoda, you will.

17 There will be lots of new jobs on the Gulf Coast cleaning up the worst oil spill in U.S. history.

You know, the one that Obama and Janet Napolitano want to pretend doesn't exist. 

18 #18  How to spell ace of spades bloggers know not, hmmm.  Yeesssssss.

19 19 There will be lots of new jobs on the Gulf Coast cleaning up the worst oil spill in U.S. history.

You know, the one that Obama and Janet Napolitano want to pretend doesn't exist. 
Posted by: SlaveDog

Any news on who fired the torpedo yet?

20 Saved or created seven polling points.

21 I don't see how this explains the Telephone video.

22 5 "For the cost of Obama's spendulus, the U.S. could have had an income tax moratorium for a year."

Don't fall into that trap, Gabe. Tax cuts don't cost the government anything. It's not their fucking money to begin with.

Of course it is their fucking money. I have a missing 24k to prove it.

23 So, I'm only here because the golf course is putting on the Men's club tournament until Noon.  Bastards!

24 23 I don't see how this explains the Telephone video.

Nothing explains the Telephone video.  But blame the original source - Lady Gaga. 

The soldier re-mix was still pretty good.

25 Yeah, I'm pretty sure that if you don't support government spending, you're a tea bagging racist.

26
Anyone have race riots breaking out that aren't getting reported?

27 #18  How to spell ace of spades bloggers know not, hmmm.  Yeesssssss.

Well, at least Gabe got Obergruppenfuehrer right...

28 >>Any news on who fired the torpedo yet?

No torpedo.  It was an accident.

Mark Levin has the scoop.

29 Funny how the majority of people believe all this stuff but the representatives are not making it happen. "By the people" my ass.

30 So, I'm only here because the golf course is putting on the Men's club tournament until Noon it is going to rain continuously until Monday morning

31

 

That's just silly. How else is President Sphincter gonna pull our economy 'back from the brink' of depression?

You'd think you'd be thanking President Informercial. That's what you'd think.

32 It's threatening rain, here, lacey.  But it seems like it's going to be fairly safe over the course for the day.  Or so the radar shows. 

33 Still, 69% of voters say it is at least somewhat important for the government to launch a new program designed to create jobs, with 50% who believe it is very important.

This question is ill-framed, as it says "the government" without specifying which government - federal, state, local.  Of course, from the response, it appears that most people don't even understand that there is more than one government. 

If state governments want to have job programs (working on infrastructure that they are responsible for) I have no problem, but the federal government has no charge to "create jobs".  I'm pretty sure that, had that been the plan, it would have made it into the Constitution.  And that's even aside from the financial idiocy of having the federal government (or any, for that matter) create make-work jobs that disappear with the funding, as if they had never even existed.

I fail the pollster for asking this silly question and I fail America for being so stupid in how they answered it.

34 Are people seriously acting like this oil rig shit was sabotaged? I really hope not that shit is retarded. I thought people were just joking about the crap like the left used to invent conspiracy theories about levies and 911.

35 13 Sigh....We are doomed.

Nah-things are actually starting to look up, starting with the impending hecatomb on the left.  Would you trade places with them at this point?  Didn't think so.  Yes there is lots of damage to undo, but take the long view.  It'll be another generation and a half before this happens again. 

As to jobs- I think we will find that there are now many takers for jobs that Americans wouldn't previously do-like journalism.

36 Religion of Peace acting up again?  Marxists?

US Embassy warns of "imminent" terrorist attacks in New Delhi.

37 BTW I am extremely hungover.

38 There you are I thought I was hearing Crickets back at the other post Chirp!

39 Anyone else here ever wake up and still feel drunk? Is that technically a hangover or are you just still going from the night before?

40 For the cost of Obama's spendulus, the U.S. could have had an income tax moratorium for a year. That would have been economic stimulus.

Sigh.  No it wouldn't.  Temporary tax cuts don't change behavior.  It's the difference between a bonus and a raise.  If you give temporary tax cuts, people will generally save the money (anticipating a downturn) or spend it on temporary things.  Permanent tax cuts change behavior and lead to employers hiring on a more permanent basis.

Keynsian meddling -- on the supply or demand side -- never does what it purports to do.

41 Still from the night before ... it'll wear off in a while .... go get some Vitamin water .. you'll fell better soon

42

 

It means you're still buzzed. Congratulations. It takes a lot of booze for a 'drunk' to last through a sleep.

43 36 Are people seriously acting like this oil rig shit was sabotaged? I really hope not that shit is retarded. I thought people were just joking about the crap like the left used to invent conspiracy theories about levies and 911.

I've seen worse hypotheses than just sabotage.  Somebody posted on yesterday's ONT a proposition that the LA oil rig was destroyed by the North Koreans.  Why they'd blow that one up and how we missed it...hell if I know.  Maybe if the Nork sub was captained by Kelsey Grammer (think Periscope Down).

And this isn't going to help quell the conspiracy theories.  Second drilling rig overturns in Louisiana. 

44

 

it also means a headache is on its way and you'll be out for the night by 3pm

45 21, I would guess Chavez' boys if it isn't freak industrial accident.

46

34 I skipped the derby with all this rain.

Who needs that mess? (Esp when the tickets were for the infield?)

47
Mark Levin has the scoop.

The dumbass says "bomb" during the interview, god dammit.

48 Drink water to hold off the headache stay hydrated

49
Keep drinkin!

50 Still drunk? That just means the hangover will kick in at 2 unless you begin drinking immediately!

51 And, for the record, the only government spending that ever returns much of anything or ends up causing the creation of many permanent jobs is defense spending.  It enhances US defense, thereby strengthening the nation, in general, and spends money on cutting edge technologies that are often driven by the moves of the enemies - a more natural mechanism than government decree which makes the production coherent, rather than the usual governmental mishmash of ridiculous and unconnected ideas.  But the lefties always cut defense spending in order to go to the most wasteful and worthless sort of spending there is; even dangerous, as the lefty social engineering almost ran our whole system into the ground (and will, yet).

52 41 Anyone else here ever wake up and still feel drunk? Is that technically a hangover or are you just still going from the night before?

Posted by: Mr. Pink at May 01, 2010 01:11 PM (V/EYZ)

water, water, water,

oh and a stiff bloody mary followed by another and another, you won't feel a thing in an hour.

i keed, water, shower, sleep!

53 69% probably includes those who are still hoping for a tax break to wake the economy up, not more government spending.

Voters finds that 66% believe cutting taxes is a better way to create new jobs than increasing government spending.

Just 18% think increasing government spending is the better way to go.

Take 1/6 of the 18% who want increased spending, and all of the 66% who want tax cutting, and you get your 69% who want the government to still do something more. Since the government already tried the spending, most of the 18% who think government spending probably already think the government improved things and does not need further action.

54

Mr, Pink. what also might work is a donut, super taco, and some left over candy, , (feeling pukish yet)?

followed by vomitus projectile,

breakfast of champions everywhere raiding the refrig. in hope for change.

55 30 >>Any news on who fired the torpedo yet?

No torpedo.  It was an accident.

Mark Levin has the scoop.
Posted by: SlaveDog

Thanks for the link. If our media wasn't so fucked up, I might have heard this elsewhere.

56 49
Mark Levin has the scoop.

The dumbass says "bomb" during the interview, god dammit.

Posted by: Dang Straights at May 01, 2010 01:16 PM (LkMP0)

Yeah, that was a poor choice of words.  And the SWAT Team references by Obama for inspectors will just add to the Conspiracy Theory Mill.

57

 

Dear Gov Christie,

Hi, it's me again: the problem. Just wanted to let you know what I'm doing today on my day off. I'm gradeing papers. I just spent a half-hour gradeing history tests for my class. Well, not really gradeing, more like glancing at the tests to make shure my students understanding the basics such as Columbus was evil and the indians were victims. And speelling, too. I liek to make my students know how to spell good.

So when your out their blaming me and my fellow teachers for all the state's problems, remember who's working on her day off.

58

swat , and attorneys, very helpful innit?

59

"Still, 69% of voters say it is at least somewhat important for the government to launch a new program designed to create jobs, with 50% who believe it is very important. "

Yes, I can see this and sort of agree with it, they want a "program" NOT a new entitlements, they want legislation (which to most people is "program") to cut taxes...

new leglislation(i.e. "programs") to cut taxes and therefore create jobs.

60

she's grading, grating on our nerves.

 

61

69% of the voters probably think it's the President's job to manage the economy.

At least that many probably think an economy is something that can be managed.

62 #59 +infinity.

63 Firehorse, at this point The President Does have something to do with our economy, He has made a Hostile environment for Emplyers and Corporations.

64

 

People view the president as the overseeer of the country, the ruler, the daddy. That's what they're taught in schools instead of seeing the president as the CEO of the just the govt's business.

 

65
I'm gradeing papers. I just spent a half-hour gradeing

Hope they ain't grading spelling.

66 Obama just took another swipe at the Tea Partiers. WaPo has the story, but here's the gist... "Obama called for tolerance and the pursuit of diversity of thought in a "poisonous political climate" and criticized people at both ends of the political spectrum for "throwing around" words such as "socialist," "fascist" and "Soviet-style takeover." He also says a bunch of other garbage in praise of big Government.

67 I'm gradeing right now in my bunk!

68 Okay, I was about to go off on Teacher of the Year, but it's a joke.  You almost had me there.  Nice going.

69 I see it's Teacher Appreciation Day again at AoSHQ.

70

in case no one has mentioned this, maybe what we need is a serious reduction in REGULATIONS... you know, those 'by banning this chemical, we might avoid two cases of cancer in the next 5 years". Maybe not worrying so much about fish that seem to have survived for millions of years without the help of man. Maybe not presuming that business owners are greedy slobs and unions only want a fair shake for the members whose jobs unions haven't already destroyed. (Remember "Norma Rae"? Remember when we had a textile industry?

Oh, and you KNOW what this messy oil rig affair will do for domestic oil production...

By the way, maybe Darleen can do a cartoon of some cavemen with a mastodon in the background; one caveman points at another and says "Ogg make fire, cause climate to change!"  Maybe the accusing caveman can look like Al Gore and have a handful of half-burnt bones that represent carbon credits. Maybe the mastodon can resemble Rosie O`Donnell.

71

 

btw, someone in the other thread linked that asshole's, Mr Jane Paulie's, stupid comic strip that no one reads.

What a hateful little prick. How silly and bizarre is it that these leftwing nuts are mocking us for talking about freedom and defending the Constitution? Have they gone mad?

Has half the country gone fringe? They used to be all for civil rights. But now we know that was all a sham.

72

That's just silly. How else is President Sphincter gonna pull our economy 'back from the brink' of depression?

 

he failed by most of the metrics used in the past.

73 Posted by: Ira at May 01, 2010 01:44 PM (bJm7W)

I'd settle for restoring the minimal amount of property rights and letting proprietors decide whether they want to allow smoking or not.  And taking away the "right" that some dipshit has to be a waiter at a smokeless restaurant.  If some dipshit thinks that cigarette smoke makes for a dangerous and toxic envirnoment, let the weeny wear a gas mask.

74 I remember when Clinton put "100,000 new cops on the streeets." After the funding from Washington dried up, the communities either had to come up with the money to keep them or have a mass layoff. There's government job creation in a nutshell.

75

Let Us Pray for the Iw@n

I pray your brakes go out runnin' down a hill
I pray a flower pot falls from a window sill
And knocks you in the head like I'd like to
I pray your birthday comes and nobody calls
I pray you're flyin' high when your engine stalls
I pray all your dreams never come true
Just know wherever you are, honey, I pray for you

 

I pray your tire goes out at 110
I pray you pass out drunk with your best friend
And wake up with his and her tattoos

I pray your brakes go out runnin' down a hill
I pray a flower pot falls from a window sill
And knocks you in the head like I'd like to
I pray your birthday comes and nobody calls
I pray you're flyin' high when your engine stalls
I pray all your dreams never come true
Just know wherever you are, near or far
In your house or in your car
Wherever you are, honey, I pray for you
I pray for you

 

76

btw, someone in the other thread linked that asshole's, Mr Jane Paulie's, stupid comic strip that no one reads.

Trudeau should be put against a wall someday

77

 

In the Age of Obama, all the old metrics are out.

New metrics are new data gathering concepts such as 'saved' jobs and 'perceived economic reality.' Yeah, it's a little esoteric, but we need to start thinking outside the box.

 

78

 

oh, and don't forget:

Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow!

79 Proud to be in the 18%

80 I read where someone who claimed to be an oilfield blowout-responder said he figured they sunk the rig by pouring so much water on it to try to put the fires out.  He speculated that they could have left it burn out and there would have been little or no spillage, because it was the rig sinking that buckled the pipe from the wellhead, causing the leaks.  Interesting theory.

81 The 52% ( below average IQ 50%, plus 2% willful idiots ) think they can have their cake and eat it too.

Lower taxes AND more spending. That works until you run completely out of credit. Which is what they are doing with their personal finances.

What scares me is the possibility that the current crop of congresscritters might accurately reflect the will of the electorate.

82 Well shit, wrong thread.  So sue me, just don't make me read fucking POS Trudeau's crap.

83 Economists (the few who know what the hell they're doing) loathe regulations.

Look, if you want activity to decrease, tax it.  That way the activity goes down and the government can use the tax money to pay for enforcement.

Want to get rid of incandescent lightbulbs?  Don't ban them, tax them. 

84 "Obama called for tolerance and the pursuit of diversity of thought in a "poisonous political climate" and criticized people at both ends of the political spectrum for "throwing around" words such as "socialist," "fascist" and "Soviet-style takeover."
Great idea, BO.  But since we are just a bunch of Neanderthals here, perhaps you could provide us with an example, a teachable moment if you will.  Please list a half-dozen examples when you rebuked the left for their insane hyperbole over the last 10 years or so.  No?  Okay, three.  Do I hear two?  ............One.  Just name one example you feckless little crapweasel.  Okay, then.

85 "You've all made enough money, already, so shut up."  -- The Precedent

86 Dear Capitalist Pig Governor Christie: Do you know what you are doing to me by cutting the state budget for education? Last night I was only able to afford Mohitos instead of my usual Cosmopolitan at the bar. Also today I was only able to hire 2 illegal immigrant gardeners to mow my lawn. Now I know you view me as the enemy I will step up my indoctrination of your children. Before I used to refer to southern Republicans as just racist, now I will refer to them as racist hatemongers thriving off the sweet tears of crying minority children.

87

 

Interesting how the left/media nicknamed Bush 'the decider' for making decisions about Iraq and Afghanistan, yet when Obama decides how much money people should make, how people should be medically treated, and how much salt people can eat...

88

Firehorse, at this point The President Does have something to do with our economy, He has made a Hostile environment for Employers and Corporations.

Granted -- but then again, even I could coach an NFL team to an 0-16 season. I just took "manage" to mean something constructive.

89 But how do you expect the political hacks in D.C. to get reelected without the pet projects to trumpet on their websites? Those people whining about jobs and the economy need to get their priorities straight.

90 69% think it is very/somewhat important for government to do some program ...

BUT... that would include those that think the program would be a tax credit program, or some other incentive. 

From the numbers it is apparent the question caught many that also think the gov should decrease taxes.  A gov' program doesn't have to be actually employing people.

91

Granted -- but then again, even I could coach an NFL team to an 0-16 season. I just took "manage" to mean something constructive.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 01, 2010 02:08 PM (cQyWA)

"Okay.  You ... the guy who holds that weird ball, first ... you pass the ball to the this big dude - what's your position? ('Center, sir')  Okay, you pass the ball to him, and then you - white boy - you run in the wrong direction, just to throw everyone off, and everyone else sneeze and shift left.  You, big dude with the ball, you run right and pass to number to 6 - because he hasn't been allowed to run with the ball, yet. ('He's the kicker')  So what?  It's all about fairness.  At some point, the running back has held the ball enough - especially this white one." -- The Precedent in his role as adjunct coach

92 85 Economists (the few who know what the hell they're doing) loathe regulations.

Very few know what they're doing. If they know so much about money, why aren't there many rich economists? Those who can't do, teach

93 But how do you expect the political hacks in D.C. to get reelected without the pet projects to trumpet on their websites? Posted by: nerdygirl

How about by zealously guarding the Republic from Constitutional overreach. By paring the size of the Federal bureaucracy to it's smallest and most optimum levels. By avoiding the appearance of impropriety when dealing with businesses and other political contributors. By providing for the best possible defense of the citizens and land of the US by holding all agencies and departments to higher standards accuracy, professionalism, and dedication.

Yeah ... as a matter of fact I just woke up. Who are you people and what are you doing on my lawn?

94 #86

Did Obama chastase Rep. Grayson (D-Git, FL) for calling Sarah Palin a fascist? 

/Video was removed.

95

 

The question no one is asking: Why does this concern Gabe, so much?

96

Granted -- but then again, even I could coach an NFL team to an 0-16 season. I just took "manage" to mean something constructive.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 01, 2010 02:08 PM (cQyWA)

"Okay.  You ... the guy who holds that weird ball, first ... you pass the ball to the this big dude - what's your position? ('Center, sir')  Okay, you pass the ball to him, and then you - white boy - you run in the wrong direction, just to throw everyone off, and everyone else sneeze and shift left.  You, big dude with the ball, you run right and pass to number to 6 - because he hasn't been allowed to run with the ball, yet. ('He's the kicker')  So what?  It's all about fairness.  At some point, the running back has held the ball enough - especially this white one." -- The Precedent in his role as adjunct coach

I have to laugh, i have no idea how to respond to either idea.

my only knowledge of sports is ..does a specific person look cute. in those colors.

97

 

awww fug, wrong thrad

ignore #97

repeat: ignore #97

98

"Obama called for tolerance and the pursuit of diversity of thought in a "poisonous political climate" and criticized people at both ends of the political spectrum for "throwing around" words such as "socialist," "fascist" and "Soviet-style takeover."

while calling typical american grannies, tea partiers, vietnam vets, bible thumpers,and those who own guns.

terrorists.

99 Alright, who broke the blog?

100 #68 Yeah, I guess Mr. Precedent hasn't gotten it yet that he can't promote himself as centrist by attacking hard-working, self-supporting tea partiers. And the whole thing about "poisonous political climate" is a bit thin, when you consider the ugliness from the left during the dubya administration. Oh, and of course he dislikes the fact that we are a superpower. Personally, I want him to continue these asshat statements right up until the Nov. elections. Go Big O!

101 And I don't mean Big O in that smutty, good way either.

102 Dear Fat Fascist Christie,

As a school administrator who you've decided are your enemy, I just wanted to let you know that I had to take my own time to have my state issued vehicle to the shop to have the windows tinted. I work extra hard to meet with politicians to beg for more money, and I have to actually drive myself into Manhattan to meet with marketers to make those maudlin PSA's about how school cuts hurt the children. You have to spend money to get money you know.

Oh, and because of your budget cuts and the racists who are clamping down on illegals, I actually had to clean my own office after "sessions" with an intern. We didn't have enough money to pay double time and a half to those hard working janitors.

Greedy pigs like you do nothing but leech off the hard work we dedicated hardworkers in the public schools do.

103

Meh. I wonder if anyone on this blue ribbon panel of pointy heads will dare to say what everyone is thinking: if you want to reduce the deficit, stop spending money.

Obama and the corrupt progressives must think we've all been asleep while they passed one fabulously expensive program after another for a solid year and a half and don't appear to be stopping or slowing down. How dumb do they think we are _{(don't answer that).}

Sorry for "writing while Irish", but this bullshit really irritates me at times. It's a good thing that Guiness has a calming effect on the nerves...

104

 

you lost points for being too subtle

105
That means 66% of Americans are anti-government freaks with AK-47s who don't properly worship our wonderfully moderate president.

106

 

You guys ever hear Patrick Kennedy going off about calling the invaders aliens?

He is so fucking stupid, he has no idea what alien means. Kennedy is upset that people like us are calling the illegals visitors from other planets. I'm not making this up; it's clear he doesn't the know the definition of alien.

107 That last part is the problem. Americans are still naive enough to think the government could create efficient, not very expensive "jobs programs." Get a nice return on an investment. If we can just get it 'right,' the government can do a lot of things just fine.

DOESNT WORK THAT WAY SORRY

108 http://www.buybrandcheap.com