1 Once I learned that the plan does not cover condoms, I was out of there... condoms are health care....that what Elin told me.

2

Right-o!  I don't think Nancy's scheme of "passing the bill so that we know what's in it" is going to go over well when the many holes in the bill start swallowing more and more Americans.  And they really messed up by uploading the taxes first.

I wish I could have "hope" that repeal is possible, but I lost that when I stabbed myself with the Blade of Olympus.  But there's plenty of it floating around now, somebody can use it.

3 we really need to stay on topic and hammer on the specifics of this monstrosity. All week we've been dickering about if the Tea Party is violent and racist, playing right into the media/democrat offensive, and completely ignoring the fact that this bill is terrible. We need to get back on and stay on the offensive. Ignore media self-love stories about our "racism", stick to the point and it will pay off. We have truth on their side. They have nothing.

4

He keeps so low because of stupid crap like this:

Axelrod advertising the new way: Try Our New Shit sandwich; you'll like it! (I may have changed that Fox headline slightly)

5 I don't think Nancy's scheme of "passing the bill so that we know what's in it" is going to go over well when the many holes in the bill start swallowing more and more Americans.

I really want to believe that, but at this point I think the "gimme my free shit!" crowd outnumbers the rest of us.  Especially with unemployment around 18% and rocketing up, in part due to this bill.

6 "The House in November 2010. The Senate in November 2012. The 45th President of the United States should be ready to sign repeal legislation on January 21, 2013."

and what if the next Preznidunt will be Barack H. Obama (D-underdocumented)?

7 And too that point we need more stories like the one from Investors.com (or whatever it was) listing SPECIFICS of this bill that are terrible. Stuff like the subsidy for Viagra for sex offenders and tax on medical innovations. I realize it takes time to sift through 3k pages of a lawyers nightmare, but those are the kinds of things that will pay off. Argue facts buttressed by the negative emotions people have, deep in their hearts, about this bill.

8

#5  I really want to believe that, but at this point I think the "gimme my free shit!" crowd outnumbers the rest of us.  Especially with unemployment around 18% and rocketing up, in part due to this bill.

You didn't get one of those blue orbs of "hope", I see.  This re-alignment could very well be the case (and Steyn seems to think so too).  We'll see in a few.

But if that's the case, buckle up, because in the end, there will be only chaos.

9

Forget? Never!

Forgive? Never!

Fight for repeal of every program the Commie in Chief got through the commie Senate and House? Every fucking day until I'm dead or it's done.

10 Obama is going to travel around the country telling us how awesome this bill is, so that will probably drive up opposition to it. It did in NJ, VA and MA.

11

Kudos to any corporation who stands up to Nostrilitis and his Evil Band of Goblins for taking that accounting write off in response to this bill.  If they go to the mattresses, then AT&T, Caterpillar, and Deere will all move up a notch in my book...to notch 1. 

12

Why wait until the 21st? Do it at the lectern immediately following the oath! The new Congress gets sworn in the first week of January so they can act quickly and repeal it just in time for the new president to sign the repeal into law. Although I suppose Obama could do a last minute veto....

I wonder what the latest veto in history was? Wonder if anyone ever vetoed anything in the waning days/hours/minutes of his presidency?

13 Republicans should attack health care by tying it to the deficit and by pointing out it doesn't control costs, it makes prices rise and quality of care decline.

14 In case you moron-terrorists missed it, that disgusting whore, Sarah Palin, just posted another shockingly vicious and violence-inciting brain fart on Facebook.

15

Repubs will get 35-40 House seats in Nov. Almost guaranteed.

16 #5 . . . I think the "gimme my free shit!" crowd outnumbers the rest of us.  Especially with unemployment around 18% and rocketing up, in part due to this bill.

Indeed -- when the number of net tax benefit recipients exceeds the number of net tax payers, it becomes a pathological predicament that is difficult to reverse.

17 condoms soft, fluffy driver covers are health care....that what Elin told me.

Posted by: Tiger Woods at March 29, 2010 11:40 AM (Ki7fm)

FIFY

18 Well, about five million people found out they may be screwed on Friday.

19 Wow - 54%.  That's a lot of storm troopers.

20

Only 17% of all voters believe the plan will achieve one of its primary goals and reduce the cost of health care. Most (55%) believe it will have the opposite affect and increase the cost of care.

so...what's the point?

21

Indeed -- when the number of net tax benefit recipients exceeds the number of net tax payers, it becomes a pathological predicament that is difficult to reverse.

You want to bring the Government to it's knees? What if 25 million or so of us just refused to pay out taxes? What are they gonna do?

Time to stop witholding from your paycheck, if you still get one.

22

so...what's the point?

land...land...land, see "snatch"

23

You want to bring the Government to it's knees? What if 25 million or so of us just refused to pay out taxes? What are they gonna do?

nominate us for high cabinate level positions? make us in charge of the ways and means commitee?

24

Boehner: Congress Should Heed EmployersÂ’ Warnings Rather Than Interrogating Them About Effects of Job-Killing Health Care Law

 

25

The hearings that Waxman (D-Nostrillia) have ordered to chastise those companies who dare to criticize The Vapid One's© glorious healthcare bill should be interesting. Hopefully, a few of these folks will show some cojones and speak truth to power about the negative effects of this monstrosity of a bill. They should highlight the added cost to business and the very real possibility of additional job losses as a direct result of DeathCare.

We're pricing ourselves out of the market. Actually, our government is pricing us out of the market. Will anyone at those hearings recommend a regulatory freeze or, better yet, a regulatory rollback to, say, 1980?

Yeah, I know, but a boy can dream...

26 Hey, maybe by November we'll have uncovered all of the fisting in this bill.

27
should I buy T-bills and medium-term bonds now that interest rates are rising?

28 >>...the many holes start swallowing more and more Americans.

Holes swallowing Americans?  Yeah, talk like that will get you a one way ticket to the hearings, pal.

29 28
should I buy T-bills and medium-term bonds now that interest rates are rising?

Guns and ammo are a safer investment.

30 Why wait until the 21st? Do it at the lectern immediately following the oath!

Inauguration Day 2013 is the 21st. If you don't think we're counting down the minutes, hours, and days...

31 26

The hearings that Waxman (D-Nostrillia) have ordered to chastise those companies who dare to criticize The Vapid One's© glorious healthcare bill should be interesting.

Their status as "Public Servants" is lost on them.  They see themselves as our rulers and that they can do whatever the hell they want to anyone at any time and for any reason and that is a major problem.

Major problem.

32

for 2013 inaguration day will also be MLK day...irony or poetic justice?

33 The way I see it moving more of the JOBS out of the country will save all of these companies a bundle.. prepare for you plumber , electrician, carpenter,to drive in from Mexico. All calls will go through a call center some where else.

34 Bruce - first 5K into I-Bonds

35 Where did this Rasmussen = Hitler thing start again? I love to know the genesis of a good meme.

36 33

for 2013 inaguration day will also be MLK day...irony or poetic justice?

There certainly can be no mistaking that I have a dream for that day.

37 With 2,000 pages of goodies, all we have to do is reveal one abominable codicil of this law every week until election and the public will go ape. And that will still leaves tons of garbage still to be revealed. In the immortal words of my hero, Air Marshal Arthur "Bomber" Harris... "...they have sown the wind, and now they shall reap the whirlwind."

38

34 The way I see it moving more of the JOBS out of the country will save all of these companies a bundle..

prepare for you plumber , electrician, carpenter,to drive in from Mexico. All calls will go through a call center some where else.

Think of the convenience!  Replenish your stash and get your plumbing fixed with one call!

39

"Obergruppenführer McPollster"

hey!

I thought we all agreed not to use our secret clubhouse names in public?

 

40 Bruce - I put a chunk into I-Bonds, and a chunk into a tax-free muni bond fund for Virginia and Texas. Rest is still in the market (and the gun safe). The basic thought was that I know two things that are going up taxes and inflation.

41

And now we have Aetna's CEO saying premiums will increase. He said Obama's promise of unrising premiums only applied to the insured (duh!)

I expect to see his ass hauled into Congress right behind AT&T and Catepillar.

42
oh no no no!

We can go that far. We need to Repeal & Replace the bill...with something more moderate...and bipartisan.

I've got news for you: The Republicans will NOT win the House, this November. No way. Not gonna happen. Not with the assholes we have in Washington.

43 Hey, Olber-gruppenfuhrer was my moniker for Olbermann! Plagiarists!

44 It's the taxes stupid. Oh and the sure to be rationed care. And the sure to be long lines. And the sure to be dictated treatment. And don't get used to chewing with any teeth either.

45

Obama and his pinko administration are treading on me.

I'm going to tell them politely that they should not do that.

Next time I will be more emphatic.

46 So when's the dumping of people onto Medicare going to begin?  Or has it already?

47

Gabe, I think that the inauguration will still be on Jan. 20th even though that is a Sunday. I think that the 21st will be considered a paid holiday for federal workers in the DC metro area who would normally have inauguration day off but won't because it's on Sunday this time around. Here is the OPM statement but it's less than clear: http://tinyurl.com/y9rmppq

48

Yeah, I know, but a boy can dream...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 29, 2010 11:59 AM (i3AsK)

So looking at what Obama and his allies have done so far, one can clearly see they have paid no heed to the norms of American politics. From openly looting the treasury to making the justice department just another policy arm of the DNC, this is a brave new world with virtually no rules.

The Republicans had better understand this and do it themselves. Why not put a rollback of Obama's agenda, AND almost everything since 1980, on the table?. Obama's created crises might make people as open to real change as opposed to more statism. Statism caused the current recession, and Obama's statist policies have turned it into a depression.

49 dczombie, both Eisenhower and Reagan did their inaugurals on Monday the 21st.

50

Big tent, no?  He was probably recruiting.

 

(yeah, yeah - I saw the previous post)

51 So why isn't it a bigger deal that Obama's minions continue use the government to harass companies that do not publicly toe his line? We haven't seen this sort of in your face abuse of government power since the Wilson years...

Seriously, this alone should be grounds for impeachment of Obama and prosecution of the Democrat congressional leadership.

52

the chances of the repeal of Obamacare will be completely different that Social Security and Medicare experienced.

For both SS and Medicare the day after it was implemented every working American saw a new tax for both with the promise that they would ALL be given the benefits.

With Obamacare everyone with current coverage will see rising premiums and higher taxes and costs and almost none of them will see the benefits personally. 

Pre-existing condition ?  If you have coverage its not your problem.

Rising costs ?  they'll get worse while your out of pocket expenses go up, where is the benefit ?

More people will have coverage ?  If you are already covered how does this help you directly ?

In short there will be over 200 million Americans who will personally never see one thin dime of actual benefit from Obamacare, the campaign to repeal it writes itself.

53
Remember this: The Republicans will gain 20 seats in the House, 3 in the Senate, and then Michael Steele and the rest of the douchebags will pat themselves on the back for having a great midterm election season.

And we'll be saddled with the same loser-leadership for 2012.

54 So when's the dumping of people onto Medicare going to begin?  Or has it already?

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at March 29, 2010 12:20 PM (9hSKh)

Not until 2013, that is why the companies have to announce the hit now. After 2013 they can spread the wealth loss around to us.

55 Why the hell do I always find news that refutes the AGW people scaremongers printed in the foreign press? From facts gathered by US scientists? Is the American press so worried about not dropping to their knees five times daily before The Precedent and his beliefs they can't file a little science news?

Posted by: Upscale Community Organizing Thought Criminal at March 29, 2010 12:23 PM (IhHdM)

Hey, would you like to be hauled in front of congress with the threat of imprisonment because you didn't toe the Obama line?

56 Up to 55% today.  Aetna announced rate increases, limitation on doctors, based on bill.

57

for 2013 inaguration day will also be MLK day...irony or poetic justice?

There certainly can be no mistaking that I have a dream for that day.

I could swear I heard a silent "boy" in there, you raaaaaacist.

58 If they all speak up, Henry can't wield his hammer. So CEOs better start talking. Also Sean Hannity should drop all of the Great American Panel shit and just have a round table that reads through the bill on air. Even if it takes weeks and weeks.

59

Gabe: True on Eisenhower and Reagan, but those were the inaurations for their second terms so there was no transition of power. Since the constitution mandates that noon on Jan. 20 is the time when the new president takes office, it seems that if we have a new president rather than Obama starting a second term we would have the inauguration on the 20th but if Obama is being sworn in for a 2nd term it would be postponed until the 21st.

Either that, or there could be a private swearing on in the 20th for the new president and the public ceremony on the 21st?

60 47 So when's the dumping of people onto Medicare going to begin?  Or has it already?

It already has.  See AT&T.

61 Aetna announced rate increases, limitation on doctors, based on bill. Posted by: pat at March 29, 2010 12:28 PM (vZL64) Aetna, Met Life, Cigna, yada yada yada are all public companies with stock holders. You ain't seen nothing yet. And I'm betting most of them git the hell out of Dodge before it is all over and leave the whole Health Care Insurance to the Gov. Which was the plan all along anyway.

62 HEY!! Where da lesbians at??

63 If Caterpillar tells Shorty McNostrils to "FYNQ" live on C-Span, I'll buy a tractor. And I don't even have a lawn, much less, cropland.

64 If Caterpillar tells Shorty McNostrils to "FYNQ" live on C-Span, I'll buy a tractor. And I don't even have a lawn, much less, cropland. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 29, 2010 12:33 PM (I/MqP) Ya could always use it to run over liberals? I hear it works pretty good that way.

65

The "gimme my free shit now" crowd will really be upset when they don't get anything for free. Some of them have already been laughed out of doctors' offices for looking for freebies.

 

66 #49 - If we could get rid of HUD, Dept. of Ed., HHS and especially the EPA that would be one helluva rollback. Also, repealing the Community Reinvestment Act which is the root cause of the housing crisis and what followed. Nice dreams......

67 Ya could always use it to run over liberals? I hear it works pretty good that way.



True. Plus, think of all the memorial pancake breakfasts that would spring up.


Mmmmmmm. Pancakes.

68 They can just spend some of the Social Security Trust Fund surplus on it. What do you mean, there's nothing left but IOUs? Meanwhile, Barry is writing more checks we can't cash. When the economy unexpectedly doesn't revive, do you think people are going to buy more excuses? Dem excuse, Nov 2010, "it's the economy, and it's all Bush's fault, stupid."

69 Never underestimate the power of promised "free shit" (no matter how fraudulent and absurd) on the mind of the average dipshit voter.

70 Obama didn't really say "bring it on." He said "go for it."

"Bring it on" was Dubya's thing, although he actually said "bring 'em on."

The More You Know...

71 Also:

In order to repeal ObamaCare, the GOP will need 60 votes in the Senate (or else the Dems can filibuster). I doubt there will be 60 Republican seats in the Senate in January 2013, no matter how well the elections this November and in 2012 go. And I doubt a single Democrat Senator would vote to repeal this massive expansion of government.

Should the GOP run in 2010 on a platform of repeal? Sure. Will they actually be able to do it? Almost certainly not.

72 Should the GOP run in 2010 on a platform of repeal? Sure. Will they actually be able to do it? Almost certainly not.

There was an idiot on Fox this morning from "The Hill" who was saying Republicans should NOT run on a platform of repeal because they could not do it and it would cost them.

I laughed my ass off. Has Obama kept one single damn promise? Even the ones he could keep he has broken.

73 so how can we trust

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