July 22, 2010
— Purple Avenger Sweet.
...For at least a year, the Homeland Security Department detoured hundreds of requests for federal records to senior political advisers for highly unusual scrutiny, probing for information about the requesters and delaying disclosures deemed too politically sensitive(*), according to nearly 1,000 pages of internal e-mails obtained by The Associated Press...(*) == embarrassing
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Posted by: JournaList Circle Jerker at July 22, 2010 10:14 AM (0acou)
Posted by: Truman North at July 22, 2010 10:15 AM (e8YaH)
Posted by: joncelli at July 22, 2010 10:16 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: FORGER - Racist Czar at July 22, 2010 10:17 AM (IABpv)
Hmmm... I thought the FOIA had specific language in it to stop this type of action...
Of course, with Holder an DOJ, don't expect anything as mundane as following the law to be important...
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 22, 2010 10:18 AM (H+oXM)
It does. They ignored it.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at July 22, 2010 10:20 AM (uu51q)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 22, 2010 10:20 AM (NvFZs)
Posted by: Methos at July 22, 2010 10:20 AM (qs3lE)
It depends on what the meaning of "is" is.
Posted by: BJ Clinton at July 22, 2010 10:21 AM (NmcJ6)
What brand of toilet paper to buy has political angles for this ultra-paranoid crew.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at July 22, 2010 10:22 AM (uu51q)
Suuure they have. I believe that! As a drunkard believes a drunkard and a madman a madman!
Posted by: Dianna at July 22, 2010 10:22 AM (qrFCz)
Posted by: Phil Jones, 1337 cl1ma70l0g157 lolz at July 22, 2010 10:23 AM (w9BEi)
You do that part, and when they get all "Hey wait a minute!" I'll lay a little you're-all-Nazis trip on 'em. I'm an expert in that shit. Totally wrote a book about it. And I apologize for that. PLEASE LOVE ME.
Posted by: Jonah Goldoblig. at July 22, 2010 10:24 AM (x7Ao8)
Nancy Pelosi was right. The Republicans do need to hold multiple hearings after taking back the House. Some Obamanites need to go to jail; starting with Holder.
Posted by: Vic at July 22, 2010 10:25 AM (/jbAw)
Posted by: AndrewsDad at July 22, 2010 10:27 AM (C2//T)
Posted by: MFM at July 22, 2010 10:28 AM (e8YaH)
Posted by: Journolist at July 22, 2010 10:30 AM (6uiF7)
How could we get the AP to release the emails?
I'd love to read the emails asking for the political party of the member of Congress requesting data.
Posted by: wtfci at July 22, 2010 10:30 AM (R4rMI)
Posted by: No one in particular at July 22, 2010 10:32 AM (MMC8r)
8 Romeo,
if we had a serious GOP we'd be pointing this out and have a caucus in the House demanding jan face the music....
Posted by: sven10077 at July 22, 2010 10:34 AM (kq1lG)
Dear Hatemongers;
I'll tell you everything you need to know, but first you will blow me!
or eat shit and die, whichever...
Posted by: CHICAGO JESUS at July 22, 2010 10:35 AM (gh1bX)
Posted by: Beto at July 22, 2010 10:36 AM (H+LJc)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 22, 2010 10:38 AM (9Cooa)
The establishment GOP are just as much behind this kind of abuse as the Democrats
Posted by: Beto at July 22, 2010 10:39 AM (H+LJc)
Those people can expect to find letters from the IRS in their mailboxes come tax time.
I wonder how many FBI files are laying around the White House right now.
Posted by: Cluebat from Exodar at July 22, 2010 10:39 AM (cqZXM)
Posted by: Beto"
Not in this case.
Posted by: Dianna at July 22, 2010 10:40 AM (qrFCz)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 22, 2010 10:41 AM (RkRxq)
37,
NO not *this* particular brand....my God in heaven I could tolerate the damned RiNOs if they were ruthless enough to at least play hardball with the hardleft....
we are instead hamstrung by our obedience to the law and our Cousin fredo's refusal to face the reality of who the other side is.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 22, 2010 10:41 AM (kq1lG)
Obviously, Fox News tricked DHS into vetting FOIA's through political commissars.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at July 22, 2010 10:42 AM (uu51q)
43 DS,
exactly and if a guy walks away from your burning house whistling dixie and carrying a gas can you learn his address and at least let him know you know where he lives.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 22, 2010 10:43 AM (kq1lG)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 22, 2010 10:43 AM (RkRxq)
From the AP article:
The foot-dragging reached a point that officials worried the department would get sued, one e-mail shows.
Documented their awareness of their own malfeasance. Smart.
Posted by: Wm T Sherman at July 22, 2010 10:44 AM (w41GQ)
44,
it gets worse....DHS may be playing Stasi but I hear that the people who leaked this story have unpaid parking tickets....cue up Jlist's patented meme machine
Posted by: sven10077 at July 22, 2010 10:44 AM (kq1lG)
Posted by: Beto at July 22, 2010 10:44 AM (H+LJc)
In the 3rd world, people asking inconvenient questions take a dirt nap. Give it another 18 months, they're still adapting.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at July 22, 2010 10:45 AM (uu51q)
Get over it. The moment they start an investigation, there will be the usual bleating about "those vindictive Republicans" followed by lectures from the usual suspects about how bad it all looks and doubling down on a bad hand, and the newly minted Republican Congress will cave like a Palestinian smuggling tunnel under a Caterpillar D8.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 22, 2010 10:47 AM (ZJ/un)
Give it another 18 months, they're still adapting.
So, America's only a 2nd world country for now? Sweet.
Posted by: gator at July 22, 2010 10:47 AM (aOKEC)
The establishment GOP are just as much behind this kind of abuse as the Democrats
Posted by: Beto
And you can prove this...how?
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 22, 2010 10:47 AM (R2fpr)
The White House said it had no role formulating the rule at Homeland Security and requests for records
Absolute horse shit.
Posted by: Dang Straights at July 22, 2010 10:49 AM (fx8sm)
Posted by: eric holder at July 22, 2010 10:49 AM (R9tbq)
The establishment GOP are just as much behind this kind of abuse as the Democrats
Well, as long as both sides do it. Cool.
Knowing some straw man Republican did it totally neuters any complaint about the Democrats.
Posted by: gator at July 22, 2010 10:49 AM (aOKEC)
Posted by: Obi Jan Napolitani, gesturing at July 22, 2010 10:50 AM (bLIgx)
56 PA,
they'll have their way right up until enough people say enough.....
the tipping point will be when "we have to postpone *fill in the year* elections because of civil unrest....
see Cromwell, Lord Protector
Posted by: sven10077 at July 22, 2010 10:50 AM (kq1lG)
Posted by: FORGER - Racist Czar at July 22, 2010 02:21 PM
-----
Fox News say report corrected, plane still in the air as of 2:50 pm EDT.
Posted by: Retread at July 22, 2010 10:50 AM (x3dVY)
Posted by: eric holder
Of couse I will handle this FOIA request. But first, take care of this
Posted by: Al Gore at July 22, 2010 10:50 AM (R2fpr)
Posted by: Laura Castellano at July 22, 2010 10:51 AM (fuw6p)
Posted by: Obi Jan Napolitani, gesturing
I find your lack of faith in the powers of the One.......disturbing.
Posted by: Darth Jan, breathing heavy (because she's heavy) at July 22, 2010 10:52 AM (R2fpr)
Posted by: sven10077 at July 22, 2010 10:52 AM (kq1lG)
Posted by: eric holder at July 22, 2010 10:53 AM (R9tbq)
There will be no G. Gordon Liddys in this bunch. They will all be willing to spill the beans to save their own scrawny necks.
Posted by: mpfs at July 22, 2010 10:54 AM (iYbLN)
OT: We have another tropical depression, and take a look at its path.
Yeh, I'd just looked at another map and seen this lovely double line of arrows all pointed at me!
Was it something I said??
Posted by: Mama AJ at July 22, 2010 10:54 AM (XdlcF)
I walk by a particular house of college students every day.
The one thing different I noticed this morning? The car in the driveway has its Obama sticker freshly removed.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 22, 2010 10:54 AM (0QJjg)
The establishment GOP are just as much behind this kind of abuse as the Democrats
Posted by: Beto
Hello, Media Matters call center? I need help. I tried the 'gloss over it and play the moral equivalence' gambit over at AoSHQ like I was assigned, but it didn't paly well. They took my line and they...well, they.... gave it right back to me, but it went to a special place, and it's really uncomforatable there.What should I do now?
Posted by: Beto, having a bad day at July 22, 2010 10:56 AM (R2fpr)
The establishment GOP are just as much behind this kind of abuse as the Democrats
Posted by: Beto
Now that's rich.
Hahahahahahahaha, you dunce.
Posted by: mpfs at July 22, 2010 10:57 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: The MFM at July 22, 2010 10:57 AM (R9tbq)
No really. We're just incompetent!
Posted by: The White House at July 22, 2010 10:59 AM (ENRGu)
AP and Capt Ed made the mistake of assuming Ogabe was simply a socialistic liberal at the core, rather than a Stalinist. It was an easy mistake to make.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at July 22, 2010 10:59 AM (uu51q)
Posted by: mpfs at July 22, 2010 11:00 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Retread at July 22, 2010 11:01 AM (x3dVY)
What it means is that there's no one to do anything about this so anyone who gets in the way will be screwed.
Posted by: Beto at July 22, 2010 11:01 AM (H+LJc)
Can we please please please fight on this one?
Powder dry, die on this hill, pick our battles, etc., etc.,.
Posted by: Dang Straights at July 22, 2010 11:03 AM (fx8sm)
Posted by: The MFM at July 22, 2010 11:03 AM (R9tbq)
Posted by: EzE at July 22, 2010 11:03 AM (Utr7V)
"Read to rule, from day one!"
Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 22, 2010 11:03 AM (ZJ/un)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at July 22, 2010 11:04 AM (rlE47)
Posted by: Dept of Obama's Homeland at July 22, 2010 11:04 AM (FcR7P)
95 Beto,
so do you want your collar with or without spikes?
I am thinking of going with when I get put in the kennels it'll match my disposition.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 22, 2010 11:09 AM (kq1lG)
THIS is how things are done in the 3rd World, btw.
Posted by: Dang Straights at July 22, 2010 02:42 PM (fx8sm)
Come on in! The water's fetid!
Posted by: Third Worlder at July 22, 2010 11:09 AM (xdG96)
One of the top civil servants took over the "Campaign for Freedom of Information" to make sure that people got the "right sort" of information, and that the "wrong sort" didn't come out. The show was cynical, portrayed government as a chain of bargains and manipulations with little concern for the governed... in other words, it's was like a documentary with jokes.
Sir Humphrey: "So, Arnold, how are things going at the Campaign for Freedom of Information?"
Sir Arnold: "I'm sorry, I can't talk about that."
Posted by: Merovign, fan of old comedies at July 22, 2010 11:09 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Beto at July 22, 2010 11:11 AM (H+LJc)
What it means is that there's no one to do anything about this so anyone who gets in the way will be screwed.
Posted by: Beto
Still pushing the " everyone does it and we're all in this together "crap, eh? You still haven't cited an example of the eeeeeevil Rethuglicans doing this. Futhermore, your sneer does constitute a swipe (anemic, granted) toward the Dear Leader. Congratulations. You're a turd and a racist.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 22, 2010 11:13 AM (R2fpr)
A Netroots Nation tweet
"wonders why our "liberal" network isn't on site at netroots nation? Whither MSNBC?"
Well. All their viewers are at the event.
Posted by: wtfci at July 22, 2010 11:13 AM (R4rMI)
100 Beto,
I refuse to be so defeatist or nihilistic....
I happily left Ed's squishbowl because I knew here at AoS the right was harder.....Squish and AP are slowly coming to grips with who we are up against and I use them as a canary in a coal mine for the double digit IQ GOP....
they *get it* which means the public will in about three-six months
the writing's on the wall
Posted by: sven10077 at July 22, 2010 11:14 AM (kq1lG)
can we revoke.... or at least suspend.... Godwin's Law for a bit???
There is a comapre and contrast that needs to be made.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 22, 2010 11:14 AM (J5Hcw)
Posted by: Articles of Impeachment at July 22, 2010 11:18 AM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: Beto"
Then slit your wrists now and get out of the way of the rest of us.
I am sick of those who insist that we're doomed.
Posted by: Dianna at July 22, 2010 11:18 AM (qrFCz)
107 Fixerupper,
why get Godwin's law invoked at all?
plenty of leftist "people's revolutions" you can choose from...
FoIA is the safeguard the public has to get at information from the source that the M$M may be complicit in squashing.....
tell me if Bury and the M$M wanted to run Pravda like news shows what would be different would anyone even notice if the FCC started giving "advice" on content?
One network would
Posted by: sven10077 at July 22, 2010 11:18 AM (kq1lG)
The congress will never go in and clip any of these out of control bureaucrats power and all their talk of de-funding will never come to pass.
Little by little we tack into a totalitarian state and it's never a point of contention between the parties.
Posted by: Beto at July 22, 2010 11:20 AM (H+LJc)
Posted by: Beto
The stupidity increases. Who is 'they'? The eeeeevil Rethuglicans? This post is about the Dear Leader's Administration being caught, by the AP no less, strangling the flow of information in violation of laws that pre-exist the ascendnacy of the One. You claimed that the Rethuglicans did it too. You were asked to back it up. Now it changed to demanding that others prove that the Rethuglicans "did anything about it"!?! You made the claim. Back it or concede the point. Or wander off.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 22, 2010 11:21 AM (R2fpr)
We wont be if we get rid of the career politicians.
That was the entire nexus of the Tea Party but it is being co-opted by the establishment.
Reassess your sentiment in six months.
Posted by: Beto at July 22, 2010 11:24 AM (H+LJc)
Posted by: Jean at July 22, 2010 11:25 AM (fQbcU)
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 22, 2010 11:25 AM (R2fpr)
115 Jean,
good advice....just look into your would be lawyer's political connections....
"wisdom"
Posted by: sven10077 at July 22, 2010 11:26 AM (kq1lG)
I hear you sven.... but......
I invoked Godwins Law because everybody (well at least for now) universally regards the The Third Reich as evil.
Other "leftist peoples revolutions"..... meh.... not so much. No point in drawing compare and contrasts with "Che" or Mao.....when an ever growing segment of our society thinks they are a swell dudes.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 22, 2010 11:26 AM (J5Hcw)
OK. There is someone putting in the light right now. Obama's crew is caught with its pants down.
Who is going to do anything about it?
Beuller...Beuller...anyone.
Posted by: Beto at July 22, 2010 11:27 AM (H+LJc)
The congress will never go in and clip any of these out of control bureaucrats power and all their talk of de-funding will never come to pass.
Little by little we tack into a totalitarian state and it's never a point of contention between the parties.
Posted by: Beto
The subject of this post was that the current Administration was illegally controlling information. One of its appointees is receiving reports that she does not deserve to get. This isn't about Congress, idiot or just bureaucrats.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 22, 2010 11:27 AM (R2fpr)
OK. There is someone putting in the light right now. Obama's crew is caught with its pants down.
Who is going to do anything about it?
Beuller...Beuller...anyone.
Posted by: Beto
You still did not back your assertion that the eeeevil Rethuglicans were doing this. Once again, you're deflecting. Idiot.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 22, 2010 11:28 AM (R2fpr)
Bullshit. He is a criminal and part of a sophisticated gang and anyone who ever paid attention to my posts will know I have said that since way before he was elected.
The problem is the GOP is a bunch of criminals too.
Posted by: Beto at July 22, 2010 11:31 AM (H+LJc)
123 Kemp,\\what the other night...yeah that was a good one....
the whole "GOP are criminals too" thing is sorta like saying that because I got a reckless op ticket back in '95 I am no better than Bundy or chikatilo".....
um "no"
Posted by: sven10077 at July 22, 2010 11:37 AM (kq1lG)
Posted by: Articles of Impeachment at July 22, 2010 03:18 PM (Qp4DT)
Me likey.
Posted by: RushBabe at July 22, 2010 11:40 AM (W8m8i)
Posted by: Beto at July 22, 2010 11:42 AM (H+LJc)
Bullshit. He is a criminal and part of a sophisticated gang and anyone who ever paid attention to my posts will know I have said that since way before he was elected.
The problem is the GOP is a bunch of criminals too.
Posted by: Beto
Well, that's a change. I would have settled for you just backing up what you yourself said, instead of this, or the 'woe is us' stream. But I'll take it.
P.S. You concluded with yet another unsupported assertion.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 22, 2010 11:42 AM (R2fpr)
Once again the buck stops over there.
Posted by: rockhead at July 22, 2010 11:56 AM (RykTt)
Some serious research is necessary here. Who gave the order? Couldn't have been Osama Obama, could it?
And perhaps some lawyer should check to see if subverting the provisions of relevant law rises to the level of being a felony.
Posted by: MrScribbler at July 22, 2010 12:03 PM (Ulu3i)
Posted by: bill-tb at July 22, 2010 12:16 PM (y+QfZ)
Posted by: Beto
Pathetic. "they failed to act". For which you provided no proof. You suck at this. You made a specific assertion. Provide proof or concede the point.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 22, 2010 12:18 PM (R2fpr)
Gramm-Leach-Biley and the Glass-Stegall repeal which allowed derivatives trading, the looting of Fannie and Freddie with said tactics and an unfettered and untouchable Federal Reserve.
Empowering the EPA to declare CO2 a poison and get control over every aspect of our existence.
Giving foreign powers a voice in our halls of power and legal system to lobby for the dissolution of our sovereignty.
All these things are illegal and violate the Constitution. What is the GOP leadership doing about it?
Posted by: Beto at July 22, 2010 12:47 PM (H+LJc)
My wife is a senior Federal attorney, who used to do FOIA work for the Army. She says it is illegal for the Agency to do any inquiry into the employment or intended use of FOIA requested data. Unless the requestor is asking for a fee waiver.
Posted by: The Drill SGT at July 22, 2010 02:06 PM (QEiAi)
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You'll know they're even more serious when they start buying dog kennels and Girls Schools to convert into political prisons....
how do you say Lubyanka in Ogabish?
Posted by: sven10077 at July 22, 2010 10:14 AM (kq1lG)