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Lefties ain't real good at keeping their secret societies very secret, is they?

3 What an absolutely disgraceful journalist.

Those archives are very newsworthy.  The public should know more about how democrats agree to a message and then pose as objective, or even fake conservative, journalists to spread lies and misinformation.

What a jackass attitude. 

4 Awwwwww

5 Yeah, your own words as a weapon against you. So unfair when it happens to Democrats.

6 It's all Bush's fault.

7 I really don't understand how "not because Journolist was a bad idea, or anyone on it did anything wrong" can logically lead to "Journolist has seen its archives become a weapon, and insofar as people's careers are now at stake"

8

Never name your kid Ezra!  It is asking for trouble.

9 An "Excaliber" and an "Animal House" reference in the same post...that is just covered in awesome....

10 HAHAHAHAHAHA

<deep breath>

HAHAHAHAHAHA

11 Hah!  I just busted a gut. 

12 They'll just do what they've always done, regurgitate Krugman. But the NYT's costs $5 on sundays now. Thanks alot, Barack!

13 Lot's of whining from Ezra and Weigel today.  WWWAAAAAAHHHH my words were used against me WWWAAAAAHHHHH I said it in private.  If a racist says racist things to his racist friends in private, is that okay?  Stupid ratfuckers.

14 Another bold statement:

He's a sneaky little shit, just like Niedermeyer.

The sad thing about this is: Now that JournoList is gone, how will Washington-based liberal yuppie reporters possibly find each other to have discussions and talk shit about Republicans?

They will. How? I dunno. But they will.

15 It's funny how, regardless of how loudly the Left screams about transparency, they ALWAYS lock their discussions behind closed doors. Hey dummies, if you think you represent "Real" America, how about talking to our faces for a change?

16 I guess Journolist was on double secret probation!

17 Ezra, you can't spend your whole life worrying about your mistakes! You fucked up... you trusted us!

18 But insofar as the current version of Journolist

Yeah, it's coming back. 

19 Weigel and Klein aren't sorry they are liars, or that Weigel posed as a conservative while he really loathed conservatives with very nasty opinions of them.  They aren't sorry for the lack of professionalism, honesty, or objectivity.

They are sorry they were caught.  That's all.

I'm sure the replacement discussion system is already in place.  'Conservatives' in liberal rags will continue to tell us to hate the Tea party, Drudge, Rush, whatever else.  To select Mccains instead of Palins, to support amnesty, and on and on.

All for the Democrat Party.  This is a tremendous and obvious political activity that the people have a right to know more about.  When a huge segment of the media agrees behind closed doors to a message sent from political operatives, especially the State's favored, the people have a right to know about it.

Any journalist who keeps these secrets is a disgrace.

A lot of these guys are confused.  They have protected leakers for so long they think all journalism should be a secret enterprise and that there's even nobility in hiding the truth from the public.  They have shed away the mission of informing us, and kept the much lazier and more devious mission of partisan hackery.

20 Meaningless. They'll just start a mailing list through one of the public servers, set the options to not archive, and go ahead as they always have. Doesn't anyone remember the predecessor to JournoList -- "TownHall"? Kos, Gleenwald, lots of other lefty bloggers -- and "journalists".

They may be a bit more careful in the future, is all.

21 #7: "I really don't understand how "not because Journolist was a bad idea, or anyone on it did anything wrong" can logically lead to "Journolist has seen its archives become a weapon, and insofar as people's careers are now at stake"

Easy: Their archives are not Mirandizeable and are therefore easy to use against them.

22 Energy is never created or destroyed, but only transformed. Listservs are kind of old fashioned anyway -- with a lot of the new social-media stuff, it's reasonably easy to set up interest-group specific discussion boards. They're hard to keep private, but then so (obviously) was JournoList. If you want to keep something private, don't write it down. Or if you must write it down, make sure you encrypt it before you send it, and give the decryption key only to someone you trust. And make sure the message self-destructs upon being read. And write under an alias ("Rusty Shackleford", for example). And respond to breaches of your privacy with such batshit-insane violence that no one would fucking dare to cross you ever again. Of course if you do all that, your need for privacy will abate somewhat because you will have no friends with whom to converse in the first place. It's sort of a chicken-egg kind of problem.

23 child please, this list isnt going anywhere. some other no talent assclown will just host it instead.

24 It was a wonderful, chaotic, educational discussion.

Yeah, not so much. Sounds more like it was a circle-jerk of Marxist groupthinkers figuring out what unanimous memes they should collectively use, Ezra, you lying fuck.

25 This place is great.  Hard news.  Hard laughs.  And the best movie lines.

26
Yea right... and ACORN was disbanded.... yea right.

27

The sad thing about this is: Now that JournoList is gone, how will Washington-based liberal yuppie reporters possibly find each other to have discussions and talk shit about Republicans?

How?!!?

Journolist 2, Electric Bugaloo?

28 The spam filter is getting cranky.

29 I think we might lose a lot more than the ability to have emails in private if folks in politics--most especially on the left, but not exclusively--don't start understanding a few things.

I strongly suggest folks like Klein grow the hell up. Or drop dead. I don't particularly care which. But the time for juicebox games is over. Long over. We are not losing this Republic because some 26-year old arrogant idiot who has never done anything thinks he is and has the answer to everything.

30

I'm starting JournoList II: "better than Ezra!"

No?

31 Wasn't JournoList itself supposed to be double-secret anyway?  There's no honor among thieves liberals, the new version will leak any minute now.

32
Oh boy this is gonna be GREAT.

33 Hey, this Journolist thing isn't working out too well for lefties, is it?

34 "The sad thing about this is: Now that JournoList is gone, how will Washington-based liberal yuppie reporters possibly find each other to have discussions and talk shit about Republicans? They will. How? I dunno. But they will.

Posted by: Ed Anger at June 25, 2010 03:52 PM (7+pP9)"

Perhaps they can use psuedonyms that are hard to trace to specific hack journalists, but they meet in person and know who eachother are on their online discussions.

Perhaps teleconferencing.  Perhaps simply using over democrat activists to discuss the message Obama wants out there, only to meet journalists separately (even online) to give orders.

Who knows.  too many clever possibilities.  Perhaps they even know who the leak was and are just doing another email discussion with that person excluded.  Would they care that much if it were exposed again?  Not really.

35 Will newspapers still be printed? Are left wing sites going to go quiet?

36 Someone must have copied that entire list to disk.  They should leak it for posterity.

37 Just change the name and re-open next week, Ez - you won't even miss one Soros check.  Trust us.

38 He really believes all that crap? Fantasy world.

39
Ezra.... fat drunk and stupid is no way to go thru life.

40 JournoList 2: The Dickening!

41
Journolist 2: Attack of the Clans

42

It's like the end of Exalibur, when the Viking funeral barge sails off to Avalon. 

Hit the nail right on the head there.  It's exactly like that for me, because I slept through that ending too.

 

43 38 Someone must have copied that entire list to disk.  They should leak it for posterity.

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 25, 2010 03:57 PM (SjXGn)

http://bit.ly/EPVU

44 And by 'weapon' I don't mean 'honest, treasonous, and incriminating'... Now, if you'll pardon me, I've got to delete some files...

45 Goodbye sweet Journolist.  Would that we meet in the hereafter.

46

I like Jeffrey Goldberg's (the sane one at The Atlantic) take on this:

How did the Post come to this?
 
"How could we destroy our standards by hiring a guy stupid enough to write about people that way in a public forum?" one of my friends at the Post asked me when we spoke earlier today. "I'm not suggesting that many people on the paper don't lean left, but there's leaning left, and then there's behaving like an idiot."

I gave my friend the answer he already knew: The sad truth is that the Washington Post, in its general desperation for page views, now hires people who came up in journalism without much adult supervision, and without the proper amount of toilet-training

47 I know of a special place where those records could reside..........

48 31

I'm starting JournoList II: "better than Ezra!"

No?

This week, Rolling Stone named the best college band in the US as being Better Than Ezra.

Number two on the list?  Ezra.

49

Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic was quoted at Newsbusters:

But Goldberg disagrees:

"How could we destroy our standards by hiring a guy stupid enough to write about people that way in a public forum?" one of my friends at the Post asked me when we spoke earlier today. "I'm not suggesting that many people on the paper don't lean left, but there's leaning left, and then there's behaving like an idiot."

I gave my friend the answer he already knew: The sad truth is that the Washington Post, in its general desperation for page views

 

at which point I was laughing too hard at the idea of anyone at The Atlantic making fun of what another publication would do for page views to continue.

50 JournoList II - The Wrath of Klein

51 Klein: "I'm proud of having started it, grateful to have participated in it, and I have no doubt that someone else will reform it, with many of the same members, and keep it going."

Ahahaha! Truer words were never spoken. It's now called "the MFM."

52

So, in less than one day The DAILY CALLER took out a Lefty posing as a "Righty" and the bloodline for the MFM: Journolist!!

 

Well done sir!

53 Shakes fist at Bubble Ba'athist.

54

Who is the bigger pantywaist, catty, passive aggressive mangina Kos or Klein?

55

Shorter Ezra Klein..(I don't mean in stature..but he is kind of a midget)

"Oh fuck, all that stupid shit I posted on Journo-List could get out"

56 JournoList 2: Daycare Disaster!

57 I know of a special place where those records could reside..........


Lemme check my office too.....

58 OT: Paul Ryan: The American people deserve to be talked to like adults - not children

Perhaps our journalists should also keep this in mind.

59

@bubble:     Washington Post, in its general desperation for page views, now hires people who came up in journalism without much adult supervision, and without the proper amount of toilet-training

Ace has toilet training.

60

When The Atlantic is criticising page view whoring...

The Atlantic

THE FUCKING ATLANTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!11123

61 Sitting around arrogantly posting your contempt for average hard working Americans didn't pay off in the end? Wow. Maybe your parents can get a refund for your Ivy League education.

62

Quote from Ezra "Juicebox" Kleins's post:

That was the theory behind Journolist: An insulated space where the lure of a smart, ongoing conversation would encourage journalists, policy experts and assorted other observers to share their insights with one another.

...shyeah..insulalted from fucking reality

63 If Ezra Klein is so proud of his baby, he should release the archives now that he's pulled the plug on it. Nothing to be ashamed of, right?

Ratfucker.

64 48:

people who came up in journalism without much adult supervision, and without the proper amount of toilet-training

The covers at least 50% of journalists from before WWII and 90% since then.  The poor guy doesn't realize how shallow the recruiting pool is - then again, he probably considers Dionne a moderate.

65
Center Aligned Paragraphs

Revenge of the Moderates

66 I have no doubt that someone else will reform it, with many of the same members, and keep it going

All that is happening is the archives are being deleted, and a new list, probably without the leaker, will be created.

Thinking for yourself is too hard for liberals.

67 No more leftie emails, we're all in the center now!

68 Now that JournoList is gone, how will Washington-based liberal yuppie reporters possibly find each other to have discussions... Easy. Publish the party line in the morning NY TASS. That's enough time for the evening shows to get their news and views straight.

69 Revenge of the Moderates

Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2010 04:05 PM (J5Hcw

Love this new look!

70 Ed's post on HotAir about this is dissapointing.  I'm sick of the 'oh he was such a nice guy' bullshit.  Who gives a shit if they're a nice person, that doesn't mean it was right for him to write for the post like he gives a shit about anything related to conservativism.  Part of me wonders if Ed's worried his Journolist posts might get out.

71 38Someone must have copied that entire list to disk.  They should leak it for posterity.

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 25, 2010 03:57 PM (SjXGn)

 

Must have.

It will be released in a book. There's money to made.

72 Ace just 'rat-fucked' his own blog!

73 Hey, this Journolist thing isn't working out too well for lefties, is it?

Posted by: TallDave at June 25, 2010 03:56 PM (/s1LA)

It helped them all stay on message for the 2008 election.

74
Democratic Kneepadder????


Im sooooo stealing that....

75 I see it's open tag day here at the HQ. Either that or Ace has boldly reconstituted it as a centrist blog.

76 Come for the laffs , stay to find your center .

77 The loss of JournoList was like the MFM's own 9/11.

78 How will lefty guys on the news come up with idententical descriptive phrases ("The president's choice of Petraeus was BRILLIANT")?

79 I think Dave needs a hug

80

wish we could set up a left journalist anger management site. wooah imagine.

 

 

 

81 It is gilding the lily to add a third.

More like vomiting the manure pile.

82 Unfortunately, a lot of Liberarians (tall L) are interested in unfettered access to drugs and sexual partners of many, many varieties, and hamstringing the military not libertarians (small L) at all.

83 He's entitled to his... nuanced version of "libertarianism." But he really cannot be writing a column that purports to be written "inside the conservative movement."

Liberal is a poison pill, progressive will remind people of the things the liberals of the 30s were up to "You're the top...You're Mussolini".

I noticed the left has been trying to co-opt libertarian for a while now too. Of course it is an odd sort of libertarianism - you can smoke dope, but the government owns your soul.

84 How will lefty guys on the news come up with idententical descriptive phrases ("The president's choice of Petraeus was BRILLIANT")?

Posted by: dum blond at June 25, 2010 04:11 PM (gbCNS)

or  when in doubt covering for Obama, "It's all Bush's fault!"

85

Jim in San Diego-The Better Than Ezra comment may possibly be stolen by me and posted elsewhere. I truly laffed.

As opposed to my usual retarded Beavis and Butthead sniggering.

86 I see it's open tag day here at the HQ. Either that or Ace has boldly reconstituted it as a centrist blog.

Posted by: Andy at June 25, 2010 04:09 PM (5Rurq)

Hey, being far left wing never stopped liberals from calling themselves "centrists" - I like it.

AoS the moderate, centrist, reasonable voice.

87 86 How will lefty guys on the news come up with idententical descriptive phrases ("The president's choice of Petraeus was BRILLIANT")?

Posted by: dum blond at June 25, 2010 04:11 PM (gbCNS

To be fair..in order to fool us dumb, inbred, illiterate, redneck Reich wingers..some did use the term "genius" instead

88 "61

@bubble:     Washington Post, in its general desperation for page views, now hires people who came up in journalism without much adult supervision, and without the proper amount of toilet-training

Ace has toilet training."

Screen shot or it didn't happen

89 Poor Ezra needn't be so down in the mouth about the demise of his precious creation.  He can go to any junior high school and find a clique of "insiders" that operate on exactly the same principles of smugness, condescension and exclusion that Journolist worked so hard to sustain.

90

or  when in doubt covering for Obama, "It's all Bush's fault!"

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2010 04:12 PM (HyUIR)

So is it ok to hit a liberal over the head with a dictionary when they talk about the "deficit Obama inherited"?

91 Stop punching down!

92

Ace has toilet training."

Screen shot or it didn't happen

Posted by:

Even I won't go there.

93

Goddammit...I told you Ace would find out about us sooner or later..

...let's tell him it costs money to join

Arrrggghh..your fucking kidding me...he's a Scandi???

94

We didn't need this journolist stuff back when I was working.

Ahh the good old days.

95

Ace . . . this is great news.  But I am still in stunned disbelief of Ed's comments over at the venerable tundra powerhouse HotAir . . . only thing missing from Ed's post was a paypal link to donate to pooooor David Weigel. 

What's going on here ???

96

It will be released in a book. There's money to made.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at June 25, 2010 04:07 PM (w41GQ)

Consider the Global Warming scam leaker for a minute - you have to be very careful in revealing things liberals don't want known. They will come after you and they do have long memories.

My suggestion - post the archives in pieces in different places, and specifically do it to catch members of the State Media in lying/hypocrisy.

97 Journalists have become far too self-important & separated from real people. As far as TV & newspapers are concerned, I believe there are only a few dozen of them that are useful. With regards to The WaPo, I hope they go under & never recover, & the same for Ezra Klein.

98 Funny, I wasn't a London prostitute - but I can't think of anyone better to have blogged on "inside the London prostitute."

99 93

Jim in San Diego-The Better Than Ezra comment may possibly be stolen by me and posted elsewhere. I truly laffed.

As opposed to my usual retarded Beavis and Butthead sniggering.

Posted by: di butler, maker of bad decisions at June 25, 2010 04:13 PM (8TRAy)

Have at it babe, and thanks for the compliment! Just remember where to send the naked pictures..

100

We didn't need this journolist stuff back when I was working.

Ahh the good old days.

Posted by: Walter Cronkite at June 25, 2010 04:16 PM (0pYSi)

Unfortunately, we don't have NV spies to tell us what to print. Some people have all the luck.

101 Off topic:
Can anyone put me some information on where and when the regularly scheduled Friday afternoon Obama document dump will occur?

Also-it's hot in Texas right now, should I drink cold beer or warm beer?

102
Perhaps our journalists should also keep this in mind.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 25, 2010 04:02 PM (Yq+qN)

Hey when we give them the facts they vote the wrong way.

103 You can be certain that there are numerous copies of the entire archives of JournoList floating around out there; there are so many amoral sneaky shits on that listserv that probably something close to 50% of them have intentionally been saving every single post. Just in case. And that's not including the couple of hundred douches who were subscribed through Gmail, which of course saves everything permanently unless you go in and specifically purge it. We'll be seeing more leaks. It's just a matter of waiting until the next time liberal journalist A does something to seriously piss off liberal journalist B.

104 JournoList Mk II will be up and running just as soon as my attorneys approve a bulletproof Non-Disclosure Agreement for its new members to sign.

105 JournoList: Part Douche

106

Also-it's hot in Texas right now, should I drink cold beer or warm beer?

don't matter..it all comes out the same

107 How will lefty guys on the news come up with idententical descriptive phrases

They're all on the mailing lists for those anyway. What they lose without a Journolist is a place to reassure each other that their mass obedience is a conspiracy they're running against you. So they'll make another Whateverlist that band-aids that brain-hole. It's psychologically indispensible, not politically or journalistically.

108

Unfortunately, we don't have NV spies to tell us what to print. Some people have all the luck.

Posted by: Ezra Klein at June 25, 2010 04:18 PM (bgcml)

Miss me yet?

109 We didn't need this journolist stuff back when I was working.

Yeah, back then you "journalists" just took orders from us. Good times.

110 We'll be seeing more leaks. It's just a matter of waiting until the next time liberal journalist A does something to seriously piss off liberal journalist B.

Posted by: Rajiv Vindaloo at June 25, 2010 04:19 PM (BZ2Bm)

That damn Ezra wore the same dress, err, pants, to last night's cocktail party - he's going down!

111 If he knew the leaker, he'd just have deleted the guy from the list. He doesn't know who it is! He thinks that this'll smoke out the leaker and he can rebuild the list without him/her.

112 A career fraud being paid by an institutional artifice to perpetuate a venal partisan hoax resigned from his phony job today. Thank God we have a free press to keep those dirty politicians in line.

113

Miss me yet?

Posted by: Walter Duranty at June 25, 2010 04:21 PM (0pYSi)

We do...we do - and we honor your Pulitzer every day...

114
Journolist performs an important function. If we had it back in the day we would have had President Gary Hart! Sadly, we didn't realize we were shooting our own horse until it was too late.

115 This is like episode #87 where I had to act like the Justice League was disbanding in order to by us time to regroup and defeat the Redskull.

116 I'm gonna sit myself down right here and wait for them to discuss how Trent Lott never should have had to resign.

Somebody bring me a fuzzy navel.  It's gonna be a while, I think.

117 I have no doubt that someone else will reform it, with many of the same members, and keep it going. Hopefully, it will lose some of its mystique in the process,

Translation : We're going to make it go away for a while until people stop paying attention, then we'll bring it back and resume where we left off.

118

Ace . . . this is great news.  But I am still in stunned disbelief of Ed's comments over at the venerable tundra powerhouse HotAir . . . only thing missing from Ed's post was a paypal link to donate to pooooor David Weigel. 

What's going on here ???

Posted by: Matthew J. O'Connor at June 25, 2010 04:16 PM (8EEyy)

 

Ya,  Hes even burying the storie now.  hmmmm

119

How?!!?

Go to the Washington Post cafeteria?

 

 

120

They'll just start a new list up and try to hide their identities with phony names so we won't be able to know who they are:

Kaul Prugman and Teffrey Joobin and Koe Jlein anf D.J. Eonne.

121 124
Journolist performs an important function. If we had it back in the day we would have had President Gary Hart! Sadly, we didn't realize we were shooting our own horse until it was too late.

Posted by: MFM at June 25, 2010 04:23 PM (Oxen1)

Yes, real "journalists" have an important function. It's just that all of the real journalists have long ago been purged by the left posing as journalists.

122

no JournoList?!?!  Wait WTF!!!11 What tit do I suck on now?

123 Don't forget JournoList was itself a replacement for a list called Townhall (I'd actually forgotten myself, Glenn Reynolds just dropped that knowledge).  So now there's 2 data points to figure out the new name from.

124

D.J. Eonne

You mean thats not his name?  I've been calling him that for years. 

125

The sad thing about this is: Now that JournoList is gone, how will Washington-based liberal yuppie reporters possibly find each other to have discussions and talk shit about Republicans?

You're kidding, right?  There's already the daily conference call from Center for American Progress that they all get their marching orders from.  Tell Mika to move her arse over and hit the speaker phone button.

126 104

Ace . . . this is great news.  But I am still in stunned disbelief of Ed's comments over at the venerable tundra powerhouse HotAir . . . only thing missing from Ed's post was a paypal link to donate to pooooor David Weigel. 

What's going on here ???

Posted by: Matthew J. O'Connor at June 25, 2010 04:16 PM (8EEyy)

I think Ed's "nice guy" tendencies overtake his better judgment at times.

127 104

Ace . . . this is great news.  But I am still in stunned disbelief of Ed's comments over at the venerable tundra powerhouse HotAir . . . only thing missing from Ed's post was a paypal link to donate to pooooor David Weigel. 

What's going on here ???

Posted by: Matthew J. O'Connor at June 25, 2010 04:16 PM (8EEyy)

It is as it appears. Ed Morrissey is a fraud. Just like Allahpundit. That is what's 'going on'.

128 The loss of JournoList was like the MFM's own 9/11.

Does that mean we'll be seeing The One™ standing in the middle of the WaPo newsroom, with his arm around Katherine Weymouth, telling all the reporters that the world is mourning the loss of JournoList and the leaker who did leaked will soon be hearing from him?

129 Also-it's hot in Texas right now, should I drink cold beer or warm beer?

Posted by: CozMark at June 25, 2010 04:18 PM (HK4Kc)

Cliff: When the British ruled the Punjab.....they drank steaming hot pots of tea on the hottest days of the year to balance out their inside and outside temperatures. See, conversely drinking an ice cold drink on a cold day actually results in a more comfortable body temperature.

Diane: So, Cliff, why do you drink ice cold beer on a hot day?

Cliff: What else are you gonna do with it?

130 Stale Air?  Never heard of it.

131 WITCH HUT!!

132 O/T: Orszschtsag quit due to little success in training old socialists new tricks.

"As the FT reports: "Peter Orszag, Barack ObamaÂ’s budget director, resigned this week partly in frustration over his lack of success in persuading the Obama administration to tackle the fiscal deficit more aggressively, according to sources inside and outside the White House." And so, as any remaining voices of reason realize they are dealing with a group of deranged Keynesians, soon there will be nobody left in the administration who dares to oppose the destructive course upon which this country has so resolutely embarked, which ends in one of two ways: debt repudiation, or war. "
( zerohedge.com )

133 Yea right... and ACORN was disbanded.... yea right.

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at June 25, 2010 03:55 PM (JKe0g)

Beck says they've moved on to rioting.  Remember the Bank of America guy whose house was picketed? 

134

Cliff: What else are you gonna do with it?

Posted by: Ezra Klein at June 25, 2010 04:30 PM (7AOgy)

 

Now thats good reporting

135 Reinventing in the War Room, DNC HQ:

Soup de Journ
Journo Fist
Now, I Got the Gist!
Journo Missed
Journos-R-Pissed
Journo Cyst
Weigel-Dissed
Ezra-Hissed
C'mon, Guys! It's supposed to be a secret List!

136

I think Ed's "nice guy" tendencies  fucking idiocies overtake his better judgment at times

FIFY

137 Is it 5:00 yet?

138 Excalibur -- was Debbie Gibson in that, or am I thinking of Tiffany?

139 How will lefty guys on the news come up with idententical descriptive phrases ("The president's choice of Petraeus was BRILLIANT")?

You know, if they had to come up with their own adjectives it'd probably be more effective.

All having the same view is one thing, but the way not a single one of them can come up with a different analogy or adjective is rather obvious and slightly disturbing. Freakin stepford pundits.

Perhaps talking points should be delivered in mad-libs format with spaces.

But then.... they probably mess up the nouns.

The new policy of the asparagus is fricken intelligent! 

140 147 Is it 5:00 yet?

Posted by: Indian Outlaw at June 25, 2010 04:34 PM (7NcLZ)

It's 5:00 somewhere.

141 More importantly for Klein and the others, all the damning posts on the List go down the memory hole so we'll never know how many other "mainstream" employees of major "mainstream" news outlets posted similar "deep thoughts".

142 I have no doubt that someone else will reform it, with many of the same members, and keep it going. Hopefully, it will lose some of its mystique in the process you stupid fuckers will weed out the leakers and keep this shit secret next time.

Fixed.

143 He's a sneaky little shit, just like Niedermeyer.

Didn't Niedermeyer get fragged?

Just askin'

144 Now that JournoList is gone, how will Washington-based liberal yuppie reporters possibly find each other to have discussions and talk shit about Republicans?

How?!!?

Sarcastic and rhetorical but I'll answer it anyway: They'll say the same things out loud in the newsroom in front of their colleagues.

When the Post's movie critic, Stephen Hunter, retired a few months ago, he wrote about what it was like to be the last remaining conservative on the newspaper. About a decade earlier, TV critic John Tierney wrote a similar piece as he exited the New York Times.

No major newspaper or non-Fox broadcaster employs any conservatives. They don't know what a majority of Americans think. They don't know the questions we'd like them to ask.  They don't know the issues that concern us. They don't know which of their assumptions we don't share. They don't know which of the stories they've embargoed have escaped into the public consciousness.

They have proactively blinded themselves, and in the process rendered their product without value to a majority of news consumers.

The Washington Post could have chosen to remedy the situation with a competent reporter who patrolled conservative blogs for a perspective on what they were missing. Instead, they hired a guy who reinforced their biases and further blinded them by feeding the illusion that they were informed..

  

145

It's 5:00 somewhere.

Sometimes I tell myself that, oh about 0900.

146 "As the FT reports: "Peter Orszag, Barack ObamaÂ’s budget director, resigned this week partly in frustration over his lack of success in persuading the Obama administration to tackle the fiscal deficit more aggressively, according to sources inside and outside the White House."

Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at June 25, 2010 04:31 PM (N/7an)

Well, that just shows his fundamental ignorance of why he was hired.  He wasn't supposed to persuade members of the Administration to tackle the deficit, he was supposed to provide politicial cover while they ballooned it.  As J.P. Morgan said when his attorney voiced the opinion that a particular business move might be illegal, "Well, I don't know as I want a lawyer to tell me what I cannot do. I hire him to tell me how to do what I want to do."

147 Ace - check your E-mail.

148

Thread recap:

Many fine posts in the first hour of the thread with the only goal scored at the 131st comment.

149 Anyone wanna bet Ezra keeps those archives?

150 Or The Three Stooges.

151

Sacred honor compels Ezra Klein to delete the Journolist archives.

152 Both Klein and Weigel would have been shot by their own troops in Viet Nam. Just like Niedermeyer.

153

Awww, they shut down gynolist?

I'm crushed.

154 I have to vote with the others saying "shut down? more like replacing." I mean the only real value for something like that is if it is not widely known about.

Both Klein and Weigel would have been shot by their own troops in Viet Nam. Just like Niedermeyer.

If there was any justice like that, Kerry would have got it.

155 the destructive course upon which this country has so resolutely embarked, which ends in one of two ways: debt repudiation, or war. I'll put my money on war.

156

Both Klein and Weigel would have been shot by their own troops in Viet Nam.

I'm pulling for a murder-suicide.

157 Tropic Thunder is classic.

158 As of 4:54 pm ET, Journolist remains intact and not shut down: http://groups.google.com/group/journolist/ Why not head on over and click the link to "apply for membership?"

159 Ace - check your E-mail.

Posted by: Jeff B. at June 25, 2010 04:43 PM (GhUHn)

Jeff's email is number 90,002......

160

That picture of Weigel is hilarious. What is he, like 12?

Nice acne there, champ.

161

Ezra Klein babbles that no one who worked for the government was allowed on JournoList.

My ass.

Publish the list of names, Klein, and prove it.

Of course you won't, because, like most cockroaches, nothing you do looks good in the light of day.

162 Echolist?

163 169 Good call. Just did. Never know when they might want to take a peek at the real world.

164 Ace - check your E-mail.

Posted by: Jeff B. at June 25, 2010 04:43 PM (GhUHn)

Jeff's email is number 90,002......

Posted by: IllTemperedCur

 

And the 3D Asian takeout pron that Ace has upstream was #90,003. You will notice that he opened that one.

165 But Orszag has been a loud and shrill public supporter of the Obama economic program.  He's has the same general appearance and demeanor that Ezra Klein has.

166 Liberal-Left journalists will just start up another one, and this time make sure its existence is never made public.  Problem solved.

167 This is cool, and fun to read about, but ultimately accomplishes little.  The liberal machine will find other ways to keep the troops in line.  They'll use this to persuade themselves that they're victims of those horrible, fascist Republicans -- and thereby psych themselves up for even more lies and deceptions.  All in the name of "taking America back" for their masters.

If anything, the fall of JournoList has probably made more liberal assholes more eager to use the FCC to silence talk radio. Because it's so biased, you see.

168 So hypothetically speaking,would Ezra Klein agree that listserves (hypotheticallly) such as, say, Congrolist or Senatorolist, could be places where congressmen and  senators "talk about things they're interested in"? Would Ezra agree that if "its archives become a weapon" he would abstain from using that weapon?

Ezra, until the advent of citizen journalism, nobody watched the fourth estate while it watched the government. There are your layers, Ezra. Deal with them.

169 The real reason Ezra shut down the list? He's hoping to prevent some other enterprising hack from doing a similat CRU Climategate dump and feeding Drudge all the other bile comments from the "liberal" commentariats.

Just sayin'

170 The comments under the lead linked article were great -I was laughing out loud.

David Weigel dated 6.14.10 @ 4:59PM
I didn't say "giving you a hug." I said "held the wrist of the first cameraman, then pulled the student to his side and grabbed him in a hug." You have to chop up what I said to make it sound bad.
Emeril Lagasse 6.14.10@5:02PM
Hell, even with my weak cutlery skills, I could make your insipid shit steak sound bad. BAM!

171 Ace . . . this is great news. But I am still in stunned disbelief of Ed's comments over at the venerable tundra powerhouse HotAir . . . only thing missing from Ed's post was a paypal link to donate to pooooor David Weigel. What's going on here ??? Posted by: Matthew J. O'Connor at June 25, 2010 04:16 PM (8EEyy) It is as it appears. Ed Morrissey is a fraud. Just like Allahpundit. That is what's 'going on'. Hot Air is beginning to make me sick. Just listened to the "Ed Morrissey show" on ustream, and he just HAD to say that Ezra Klein is really a nice guy and so is Dave Weigel. The cocktail party/beltway mentality infects even the intertubes. What a toady, sucking up to fucking Ezra Klein.

172

uh oooooooh...it was goooooood...

buh-loggin' with you uh ooooooooh...

it was gooooood...buh-loggin with you

uh ooooooooooh...

good...good...good...goooood...

good...good...good...goooood...

Writin' stuff on the 'List...

slamming conservatives just like a slore

searching our heads for IQ but there's nobody home...

 

Somebody's got to write some lyrics to that song, given the circumstances, just sayin'... 

173 Now let's see Ben Smith show how neutral he is by releasing all of the Journolist emails he ever received. Surely a true, neutral observer wouldn't have anything to fear from releasing private emails about politics from like-minded individuals?

174

Wapo Fires Liberal Whiny Pussy Baby--feared that said asshole will tank already declining revenues--lib soc poseurs revert to form (free market capitalism) and sack said sad sack'o'shit.

Lib queefs and DC journo navel gazers hardest hit. The world's most famous amateur gynecologist is on suicide watch. Blames Bush.

175 My favorite line from the quoted comment, which I had the pleasure of stumbling across in its original thread, has to be "...even ANN ALTHOUSE got this right..."

176

Liberal == pot smoker who loves taxes.

Libertarian == pot smoker who hates taxes.

177

Long before JounoList, the media and the beltway was a racket that will burn anyone and anything to protect itself.

181 The real reason Ezra shut down the list? He's hoping to prevent some other enterprising hack from doing a similat CRU Climategate dump and feeding Drudge all the other bile comments from the "liberal" commentariats.

Maybe someone has a file on their harddrive.  But what would be worse than the 14-year-old-girl-clique behavior that's already been exposed?

178 That would be a good definition of libertarians but for the fact they vote D. 

179

. . . back in the office - nice to see HotAir's mysterious "Karl" turn the altimeter back to normal after Ed's . . . off the reservation Thelma and Louise "please donate to the pimply face Wa Poooooor fired reporter bit earlier today. 

180 You know damn well lefties can't resist banding together to discuss how nassty and meanspirited the right is.

CAN'T.RESIST.IT

181 This has to be highlighted and repeated until everyone knows the truth. When you hear on the radio the media echo chamber talking points played back you wonder-- how do they get the word out and why don't the rest of us see it coming-- well, now you know. Journolist was the incubator for their talking points. They all read the same things and then the circle jerk began. No doubt Gibbs was in there posting every day so that Maddow, Matthews, Olbermann, Schulz, Couric, Williams and the rest knew what to say. No doubt Stephanopolas got it straight from Rahm's mouth in the sauna. Shine a light and the cockroaches run. Where ever they end up we'll be sure to find and expose them.

182 From my WaPo comment:

"No one who worked for the government in any capacity could join."

No, but Podesta's Soros funded Center for American Progress was front and center and WH folks worked through that organization to get out the talking points, according to a story I read a while back- believe it was WaPo. If CAP was not involved in any way, I would sincerely appreciate a clarification.

Shame on you, Klein. Can't you all come up with your own stories? There certainly is plenty to work with! Do you think readers don't know they are being snowed when they see the same 'meme', often with identical catch phrases showing up in various media?

I read several of Weigel's pieces. IMO, they were not good. His opinions were not 'conservative' but rather a not so subtle effort to discredit and/or belittle conservative viewpoints.

The fourth estate serves a vital, even noble, purpose. However, those who act in a blatantly partisan manner, simply regurgitating a message, rather than crafting a well-researched piece have betrayed the principles of good journalism.

Shame, shame on you, Ezra Klein.

183 "I'm proud of having started it... it has to die"

{voice=humphreybogart} Reminds me of Lizabeth Scott just before I blew her brains out. {/voice}

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