1 Sestak post please?

2 This story gets more asinine by the minute.

3 I am a fat fucking liar.  Details coming... soon!

4 2 hours? That's either an extended teleconference or the world's longest session of phone sex...

5 Miss me yet?

6 You know, I feel bad about this whole scenario because, try as I might, I honestly don't care. 

7

Including, alas, the sad fact that while many of these calls are explainable, there is the matter of a 2:24 am call that went on for two hours.

 

Hmm....

8 We've reached the point where CNN's paid contributors are less locked in on their sources and stories than CNN's IBlogger Twitter unpaid occasional volunteers.

9

Including, alas, the sad fact that while many of these calls are explainable, there is the matter of a 2:24 am call that went on for two hours

And I said earlier, I think it's more damning for her she had 600 calls with him and only paid him $4,000 for his, ummm, services, that year.  

No professional is that generous with their time.

10 The moron in the other thread who coined the phrase "Little Red Footballs"  should get some kind of award.

11

7

Has there been any confirmation that Haley was in SC for that phone call?

If she's in a different time zone, it could be morning or afternoon for her - but 2:24 on Sic Willie time.

Not likely, but just throwing that out there.

12 Who.  Cares. 

Just please, please, please....no more pictures of that d-bag, ok?  Every time I see one, I throw up in my mouth just a little. 

13
Translation

Eric:

I lied not because I'm a fat pasty disingenuous f'ck like Will Folks , but because I'm a super intelligent man of international mystery.............or something

14

OT

Somebody is finally going to test actual effects volcanic ash has on turbine engines. About friggin' time.

15 I know the real story behind exactly who made Sestak that job offer.  Names. Dates. Phone numbers.  And I even know who was behind the entire thing.  Was it a Republican?  Nooooooo....

Maybe I'll tell you all about it later, maybe not.  I've been told I'm going away for a nice, long rest.

16 I just hope that shitheel Brauer doesn't benefit from all this crap.  I'm not aware of any reason McMaster or Barrett wouldn't be decent choices.

17 So I need to mention a THIRD time,  it was the Lt Gov's people.

Trust me on this. And yes he is THAT stupid.

18

You know, Nikki Haley came and asked me, "Did you plug the hole yet?"

Details coming soon!

19

6 You know, I feel bad about this whole scenario because, try as I might, I honestly don't care. 

Right there with you not caring.  Not right there with you feeling bad about it.

20 There are two other troubling things about the phone calls. First, when the story broke, Haley claimed she "barely knew" Folks. Obviously this was untrue. Second, it's hard to see what legitimate business would keep them up till all hours of the night in 2007. Haley wasn't even campaigning that year. Moreover, she ran unopposed in 2006, and faced only token opposition in 2008. (She won in '08 with 83% of the vote.) tiny.cc/ajhy7

21 You fucked up--you trusted me.

22 10 The moron in the other thread who coined the phrase "Little Red Footballs"  should get some kind of award.

Why thank you.  It's long overdue something like that stuck to that cult of desperate self-aggrandizing shitheads.

Par for the course, Erickson.

23 17 So I need to mention a THIRD time,  it was the Lt Gov's people.

Trust me on this. And yes he is THAT stupid.

Posted by: Kemp at May 28, 2010 04:46 PM (CvAF1)

 

To what are you referring? What was the Lt. Gov's people?

24 Does anyone have a synopsis of this story? Every time I try to follow posts about it I'm left wondering what the hell is going on. Who are these people and why are they important?

25 With apologies to RedState readers (and Dan Riehl who is rather upset about the whole post from this morning), IÂ’ve had no hesitation in stringing the media along like Folks has done.

Irresponsible fucks.

26 Erikson is a cock-knocking douchebag

27

Why didn't you come to me like a f'cking man and tell me my blog and my opinion was way over rated.

28 She's an attractive, married woman and mother.  If she touched that sick douchebag, I question not only her intelligence, but her taste.  Ugh.

29 "23 17 So I need to mention a THIRD time, it was the Lt Gov's people. Trust me on this. And yes he is THAT stupid. Posted by: Kemp at May 28, 2010 04:46 PM (CvAF1)" I know all about it. Got it nailed down. Cold. See the siren?

30 Any of you SC morons know if Jenny Sanford has had anything to say about this?

31

23 17 So I need to mention a THIRD time,  it was the Lt Gov's people

Ya might wanna go for four..because no one knows what the hell you're talking about

32 We are beyond the "pics or it didn't happen point".

33 OT: I just watched Chris Chrisite's speech on you tube at the Manhattan Institute.  Impressive man, impressive words.

34 Erick...you ain't Ace. You can't pull something off like this without the funny. Leave it to the pros.

Including, alas, the sad fact that while many of these calls are explainable, there is the matter of a 2:24 am call that went on for two hours.

I really don't see the big deal of this. If I was her husband I wouldn't be please but unless I knew they had also spent time alone I would hardly go ballistic.
Not only people having sex together speak on the phone late at night.

35 "26 Erikson is a cock-knocking douchebag" Once just isn't enough.

36 Totally stupid, especially for a site that thinks it's superior.

37 OT:  Ben Stein not buying the "made up" story on sleezestak. 

also an anedote:  I have a buddy who called to say goodnight to his girlfriend and got her recording and didn't hit his cell phone off button and she has about 4 hours of him snoring recorded.

38 If Nikki cheated with Chris Christie....well, I could almost understand.  Almost.

39 How do you know when you're staying in a South Carolina hotel?

"When you call the front desk and say "I've gotta leak in my sink."

and the person at the front desk says "go ahead".

40 He basically said he thinks Bauer's people are involved, which is entirely plausible and many of us already believe that.  That says nothing to whether it is true or not.  Another big dud from Redstate.  I'd say it actually hurts the person that they are rallying behind too, which makes it stupid.  What is the point of teasing this repeatedly unless you're going to produce something solid? 

This is far worse than pathetic calls for Fiorina to step down, and that was pretty bad.  Not Erickson's best month. 

41

Without getting weirdly girly about this entire mess, what if it wasn't a physical affair but an emotional one? I mean, we all agree she probably wasn't bumping uglies with the ugly, but what if there was an emotional element to their "work relationship"?

Even better, what if she starts describing this at the Tuesday night debate? It would then become essentially a Lifetime movie of the week.

Filed under: You Can't Make It Up, Shit

42 Ace, you and the (other) asshats at Red State and HA are turning this 'story' into some sort of National Enquirer super expose.

When any of you get any hard facts which can be independently substantiated, by all means  let us know.

In the meantime, please spare us your breathless, hyped-up innuendos ("on the one hand it could be true; on the other, maybe not".)  A person's reputation is on the line here, consequently, this is not the time to engage in prurient speculation. Either go out and dig up the facts yourself, or wait for the facts to come to you, and then report objectively on those facts.  

43 Hell, I didn't even know Red State was still an active site.

44 Hey Horatio, did you see the link in the sidebar that says Gary Coleman basically died of a stroke ?




Well.............that's Different.


*puts on sunglasses*


YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAH !!!!

45 Redstate has sunk even LOWER than it was before in my eyes.

(and it was already hovering around the 'whale shit' level as it was. What's lower than 'whale shit'? == A once respected site becoming a parody of itself and drifting toward the LGF side and away from the light due to the owner's lack of self-examination and total loss of empathy with the rest of the conservative blogosphere.)

46 try as I might, I honestly don't care What's wrong with you?

47

@34

 He's such a weird fuck he could have drawn Haley into being his de facto shrink on call. Sometimes people are too nice for their own good. Folks could have been droning on and on about how his mom never let him lick the spoon when she was baking cookies, and Haley was on the other end sawing wood.

It's happened to me, I've fallen asleep when my friends call me and start yakking late into the night.

 

48 lacey, speaking of crazy shit, did you catch the NYC ho's last night?  Yowza.

49 Look, I'm not willing to go very far defending Nikki Haley here, but may I just mildly suggest that middle of the night phone calls are not necessarily as indicative as many seem to think they are?

I routinely have multi-hour middle-of-the-night telephone conversations with two friends (one male and one female).  We're just night owls.

50 And you know what else?  Red State sucks.

51 Whatever happens, I hope the creepy little fuck aka WF has many sleepless nights, his wife leaves him, he gains nothing (fame, money) from this, and the list goes on. He should never be considered a "hero" but instead he should be referred to as the fucking snitch.

Moral of the story if true:  Do not have an affair if you plan on running for any political office.  That is, unless you have a (D) after your name.

Ahhh, feel better now.

52 Erick Erickson is truly punching down.

53

Yah, are you awake?

So what are ya wearing?

54 with regards to a 2:24AM phone call lasting 2 hours...i'm not going to make excuses for her, because i kind of think something happened between them...

But....as someone who had a phone thing going on with a girl (who lived on the other side of the country)...there really are plenty of possible reasons...

-someone died? consoling?
-maybe someone was confiding in the other about something of a personal nature (relationship problems? family problems?) folks seems like the kind of douche who'd act compassionate and interested in whatever a relatively attractive woman is saying while he's jerking off on the other line with porntube running in the background...
-the thing about phone sex....and the ladies should comment on it..i just don't see it stretching on for 2 hours....but, who knows? folks seems like an imaginative SOB....he was probably regaling her with his fantasies of beating her...
-a brilliant strategy idea or plan that had took 2 hours to plan out?
-maybe she couldn't sleep and she was in the mood to gossip with her "girlfriend"

having said all that...apparently she felt comfortable initiating a phone call at 2 in the morning...so what does that tell you...they were close, they definitely had a close friendship...

-if she did hook up with him, i'd go with the generic reason...she was missing something in her life intimacy-wise and she knew douchebag with no life was more than happy to listen to her...

-things went south, and he got pissed.

55

41

Sic Willie's statement that started this whole thing was "inappropriate physical relationship."

An emotional affair isn't what he was hinting at.

56

Dem bitches crazy, Jane!

But it must be said:

Jersey House Ho's > all other House Ho's

57

I routinely have multi-hour middle-of-the-night telephone conversations with two friends (one male and one female).  We're just night owls.

Dude, why can't you just admit that your having an affair with these two people?

Man up like o'l Will here and just own it.

58 Can I ask why this matters?  If the woman is capable of doing the job, if she has the credentials then why should she be subjected to this?  I never felt Sanford should resign either.  The dems don't resign, heck the dems get away with a lot of things with impunity, so why do republicans have to play by the rules?

I mean, if there is something else, besides some stupid affair, then come out with it already, but if not, these folks should just shut up already.  Unless this candidate did something while in office that would be offensive then the only people she has to answer to are the hubby of 13 years and the two kids, period.

Notice, Mrs. Spitzer is still around.  Sure, he's out of office but his offense was to cross state lines....but she is still there next to old eliot.

59 "43 Hell, I didn't even know Red State was still an active site." It isn't, any more.

60 I have had many 0230 phone calls that went on for a couple of hours and there dang sure wasn't any sex or fun about them - sometimes stuff just has to get done

61 Geez, I don't know why you all are getting mad at me!  All I did was plug the Damp Hole!

62 Kensington, Yeah, but you know, in a murder trial, a matching ballistics report doesn't prove you did the crime. Because you can't prove it's the same gun, just a similar gun. They say "the bullet was CONSISTENT with" the gun the defendant owned, not that it was, necessarily, the same gun. Consistent with -- that doesn't prove things but it is probative. On its own, it isn't conclusory, but it is relevant. These late night phone calls don't prove anything per se but they are consistent with *something.*

63

I never really visited RedState that much.  Don't plan on anymore after today.

64

Jersey House Ho's > all other House Ho's

 

Heck Yeah!  And that Danielee is the craziest Ho of them all!  Yikes!!11!!11

 

65 O/T, from today's unwaveringly liberal Palo Alto Daily News, a Memorial Day cartoon of Arlington with Dick Blumenthal reminiscing, "I died in Vietnam once..." That's a heavy bus, Dick! Tha-bump! They should have pretended that he was an intermediary in the Sestak deal. Another headline: "More layoffs contributing to continued high unemployment". Ya think?

66 I think 2 hour phone calls at 2am are prima facie evidence of an affair. That and carpooling.

67 I've worked with clients at all hours because of their schedules, that's not uncommon.  

68 Red State deserves to have their traffic crater after this.

69 If she's in a different time zone, it could be morning or afternoon for her - but 2:24 on Sic Willie time.

She was in Iceland! Calling the douche about...

penis.

No, there's a penis museum there! Really!

we all agree she probably wasn't bumping uglies with the ugly

No. I still think it's possible she wasn't, or she only sorta half-bumped with him, but...please.

I'd doubt it more if the ladies weren't all "No way she's hittin' that! Ew!" That's what they all say, when they all say it. Then half of 'em hit it.

70 Oops, I got excited and typed too many "e's"  and not enough "l's" in Danielle. 

71 I hate tags.

72 Throw the bitch under the bus

73

These late night phone calls don't prove anything per se but they are consistent with *something.*

Bingo. And *something* is prolly a Biden BFD for  a woman that's claimed to have at best a tangential relationship with said FreakShow.

74

 O/T, from today's unwaveringly liberal Palo Alto Daily News, a Memorial Day cartoon of Arlington with Dick Blumenthal reminiscing, "I died in Vietnam once..."

 

heh!  Although, I would just happily settle for "My political career died in Vietnam once..."

75 Maybe she got an inappropriate e-mail from the fucker and called him at 2:30 to chew his ass out.  And he started crying or something and she felt sorry for him and.....

What kind of governor do you SC morons believe she'd make?  Because if her husband is okay, and her kids aren't affected, then Will Douchebaggery Folks will eventually ooze back into the murk where he came from.

76

Without getting weirdly girly about this entire mess, what if it wasn't a physical affair but an emotional one? I mean, we all agree she probably wasn't bumping uglies with the ugly, but what if there was an emotional element to their "work relationship"?

Even better, what if she starts describing this at the Tuesday night debate? It would then become essentially a Lifetime movie of the week.

Filed under: You Can't Make It Up, Shit

Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 28, 2010 05:00 PM (qTPJy)

Lets just say she was bumping uglies with him, is that really so far outside the realm of possibility? Yea, the guy's an ugly fat pasty fuck, but perhaps he's a smooth talker and it started out as some sort of emotional affair, husband got deployed or something and at the time he was a close confidant. Maybe she felt like she was doing the guy a favor giving him some pity poontang and that anyone who took one look at him and one look at her would never possibly believe it.

There have been a few times in my life where I've witnessed these same events go down, mainly within the work place and a couple of those times it involved this exact same scenario and I've been like "wtf ? Him? Her? No way !" so it can happen.

Maybe it didnt happen at all and he's just being paid to do a political hit, that's what I hope it turns out to be in the end.

77

I guess the thing that gets me in these scandals is how long the politician prevaricates before coming clean. I have no opinion about this particular situation, but I think what disappoints people is that they go into these types of scandals wanting to believe the politician when he/she claims "I categorically deny that anything improper happened" and usually end up disappointed at some time in the future when the politician finally admits "yeah, I rode that joystick like I was trying for the high score in Pac-Man."

It isn't the affair, it is the cover-up that annoys me.

78 Don't worry rrn, something tells me she doesn't even know how to spell her own name!!

79 Ace, I know, I know, I know, and even if Will Folks is fabricating most of this, it does diminish Nikki Haley in my mind just because she let this obviously unhinged douchenozzle into her inner circle.

I just thought somebody should point out that middle-of-the-night stuff is perfectly routine for some of us.  I don't think I'm that out of the mainstream (but I could be wrong about that, it's true).

80 but not until next Monday so it can stay in the news for another week. And anyone who thinks that the Dems have had an equal amount of sex scandals this century has been in a coma

81 Nikki was probably overcome by his charm and back-fat.

82 The only people my girlfriends would be on the phone with a 2 am for two hours would not be a guy they were having an affair with, it would be their male gay friends, who really listens.

83 Including, alas, the sad fact that while many of these calls are explainable, there is the matter of a 2:24 am call that went on for two hours.

Well that certainly signals some sort of emotional connection. But face it, I know others are in this boat with me, I (you) make a play for a frustrated emotional girl using the "sensitive friend" approach, get lots of chat time at inconvenient times but no boom-boom for the effort.

Ever hear the words
"But I like you soooo much as a friend"
"We have a good friendship and I don't want to ruin that."
"Let's just be friends, is that OK?"


 I'm just sayin if long late night chats with chicks = sex, I'd have a few more notches on the bed pole.

And after vesting a lot of time in the approach and "making the move" and getting one of the above lines, jilted might be a good description.

However,
All that said, this clearly shifts the odds closer to "They did it" all I'm saying here is that there is still room for doubt. I put my current Bayesian Belief at 50-50.

84 and erg's got nuthin'

85 But at least I'm not a birfer or a secessionist or someone who says Wookiee. I now bid you adieu um, well wishes

86 You people all have serious reading comprehension issues or you would understand why Intrepid Boy Reporter Erick Erickson had to do this.  Erick Erickson was brilliantly trying to make a point about the utter douchebaggery of Will Folks by ironically and fearlessly becoming as big of a string-along bullshitter as he is.  You were all just too dumb to understand this genius tactical maneuver.

The fact that Erick Erickson has to come back here with yet another follow-up article explaining his position, just as he had to do after the mass purging of Birfers from the site; just as he had to do after calling the GOP a racist party that didn't want a black man in the Senate; just as he had to do after publicly mocking wacko fringe elements at the same time he was endorsing Rand Paul 100000000000% in the Kentucky primary, says everything about the thick-headedness of you people.

Erick Erickson is so far above you plebes that the first-person just isn't sufficient anymore.  And now Erick Erickson will hear no more from all of you people who Just. Don't. Get It.

The rest of you, stay tuned tomorrow for a series of special guest diaries offering perspective on our grassroots, take-no-prisoners takeback of our party from the entrenched good-old-boy insiders, written exclusively for RedState by all 218 Republican members of Congress.

G'bye! G'bye! G'bye! G'bye! G'bye! G'bye! G'bye! G'bye! G'bye!

_{Neil, Moe, take care of it.}

87 OK, the affairs annoy me too, but really I'd have more respect if the politician just came clean at the start.

88 I think everyone is underestimating ol' Willie.

I mean, he looks and acts like a pudgy doofus, but when he wears  "The Viking Goatee", he's a major sex machine.

Never sell a man of International Mystery and Intrigue short.

89 MikeTheMoose@83:
"Ever hear the words "But I like you soooo much as a friend", "We have a good friendship and I don't want to ruin that."
"Let's just be friends, is that OK?""

What, are you tapping my phone lines?  WHO ARE YOU WORKING FOR?

90 "yeah, I rode that joystick like I was trying for the high score in Pac-Man." Yeah, I stole that. Waddaya gonna do, call Dan Rather?

91 Yay.  It's cocktail time.  Headin' out for a bit.  You guys get to the bottom of this, please. 

92

Don't worry rrn, something tells me she doesn't even know how to spell her own name!!

 

heh!  true dat!

93 Bob Dole thinks Erick Ericson's a shitball.

94 Tomorrow I'm releasing a text in which Nikki writes "pick-up my fucking laundry". Sorry Nikki, I'm forced to release this damning evidence because of integrity and shit.

95 You know, she may have known that he was a little unhinged but overestimated his power so she felt compelled to talk to him at 2 am for two hours thinking she was keeping him in her court but not giving him any information he couldn't find out on her website.

96 Today is Blofeld's birthday. He would have been 102.

97 Question:  Can you "barely know" someone you've spoken with on the phone for 30 hours?  Is that possible?

She says she "works her staff hard." 

98 #86, you forgot how Erickson wet himself when Killgore Trout dropped by to poop in his comments.

I'll give Killgore this much; he knows his Alinsky. He knows not to agitate at Ace because we'd just mock his ass. He figured that RedState was run by unprincipled and weak beta-males and he was right.

99 I like the way this Ericksen guy operates.  Minions, take note!

100 "These late night phone calls don't prove anything per se but they are consistent with *something.* "

--yeah...not to be snarky...but it could be consistent with he's her paid part-time consultant and they became close friends; and she dug his weak sense of humor.

i bet he does tons of impressions, right? he's an impressions guy. he probably does impersonations of all the local SC politicians or something. and she was LOL for two hours.

i dunno...

101

Will Folks talks about himself in the third person, I mean, what kind of arrogant douchebag does that ?

Bob Dole doesn't.

102 Here is a poll taken after the news broke. Haley extends her lead. The smarmy little turd moves into 2nd place. As I said before, Nikki is my State Rep. I have no reason to doubt her, 2 hr phone calls not withstanding. My reasons are simple. Her credibility has always been unchallenged in this city.(Lexington, SC). She has made some real enemies who would stop just short of the felony line to destroy her and lastly, she has a husband and two sons, 8 and 11, who are her world. I'm not saying I think it's impossible she would not have an affair. I'm not that naive. I am absolutely certain that she would not brazenly lie in order to win an election and damage her family. This is not a large city. She would be ruined if she lies and fights this and it is proven true. Her sons would be humiliated and her husband shamed. Based on her life history, I can't see her doing this.I have no reason to believe she did it and her lifetime of proven integrity to say she didn't. If this were to be true, I will come back here and say I was fooled and she is a duplicitous witch. I am very comfortable with my convictions on Nikki.

http://www.statehousereport.com/CurrentIssue.aspx?ID=80

103

I talk to people at all hours of they day.

Then again I'm not married.

Or running for office.

The very best we can say about this women is that she's a complete dipshit.

 

104 "yeah, I rode that joystick like I was trying for the high score in Pac-Man."

I've been having an inappropriate physical relationship with Will Folks.

105

-the thing about phone sex....and the ladies should comment on it..i just don't see it stretching on for 2 hours...

Haley's an accountant, I think that pretty much kills the two hour phone sex theory.

I do like your theory that she wanted to talk to her "girlfriend", if that boy isn't teh ghey, I'll give ya whatever you want.

106

"The very best we can say about this women is that she's a complete dipshit.

 

Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 28, 2010 05:19 PM (qTPJy)"

I think that is a reach.  In the absence of knowing what was said and if it was even her on her phone, you are really throwing her under the bus.

You can work closely with someone for years and never let them know anything personal about you.

107 >>The very best we can say about this women is that she's a complete dipshit.


How dare you insult the women I imagine having sex with. Sic out.

108 sunny, I know, but let's look at this: Of the stuff we have so far, we keep looking into for it for signs of disproving the claim. We keep coming up short.

109

Erik needs to learn that there are various levels of funny.  There is the top level - Richard Pryor/Chris Rock funny.

There is a second level - Ron White type funny: not on the top level, but for the most part pretty good.

There is a third level - the either you love them or can't stand them level - Jerry Seinfield/Dane Cook.

There is a fourth level - mildly amusing but, really, you wonder if they are worth the 10 bucks a pop and 2 drink minimum you are paying. Think anyone who has ever been a sidekick for Howard Stern

There is a fifth level  - the really not funny level. Think Sinbad, think Carrot Top level.

There is a sixth level - your a comedian bordering on being a douchbag. Erik, this is your stop.

Lesson: Erik - leave the comedic attempts to the professionals. Or the better commentators here at the AOSHQ. Focus on things that you can accomplish, like, oh, not sucking so much when you are on CNN.

Oh, and Happy Memorial Day Weekend, everybody.

110 Waaaaaiiiit, Erick Erickson gets it; you're all a bunch of TEABAGGERS, aren't you?  Didn't Erick Erickson tell you weeks ago that Erick Erickson had grown far beyond the limits of such childish displays?  Now please go away, Nazis; stop stirring up trouble for Erick Erickson's our movement.  G'bye.

111 1 Sestak post please?

Posted by: Truman North at May 28, 2010 04:39 PM (e8YaH)

112 So newt and hannity just hypothesized that it wasn't RAM but Messina

113 Listen if it did happen it would go against the laws of nature as far as mate selection and sexual partners is concerned. We'd have to go back to the Galapagos Islands and recheck Darwin's work. 

114 111 1 Sestak post please?


My 15 minutes ain't up yet crackas.

115 If my phone records with women I've spoken with between midnight and 6 am  were evidence of affairs I would be Ron-fucking-Jeremy.

Screenshot or it didn't happen.  This isn't evidence in my book.

116

Will Folks talks about himself in the third person, I mean, what kind of arrogant douchebag does that ?

Bob Dole doesn't.

These two non-Rickys have got nothing on Ricky. Ricky can talk about Ricky in the fourth Ricky. Hell, when Ricky thinks about Ricky, Ricky thinks about Ricky in the the third or forth Ricky. Ricky gets up most mornings and says Ricky more than most non-Rickys even say the word "Ricky"in their non-Ricky life. Cause that is how Ricky rolls, especially when Ricky is thinking about asking Ricky a question about what Ricky wants Ricky to do.

117 Sestak post please? In the words of Robert Plant (and whoever wrote the song): I'm going to Chi-caaaaa-go! Call my office Tuesday

118

curious it just doesn't add up.

600 calls for a man that was paid less than five grand for his services?

???

He's a scumbag to the nth degree but at some point she has to account for the number of calls here. Esp for someone that continues to categorically deny they had any relationship.

119 Bravo, Erickson, bravo!  Idiot.  Good job undermining your own creds with your little stunt.

Including, alas, the sad fact that while many of these calls are explainable, there is the matter of a 2:24 am call that went on for two hours.

Yeah, that pegs a 8 on my weirdness meter, but still doesn't prove Folks and Haley were bumping in decadence.  I'm leaning towards the "emotional relationship" thing, although as lacey pointed out, that didn't translate into more moola for Folks.

120 BTW as for my take on Erick - 109 Mal +1.

Redstate's "we're the smart, connected political insider blog" schtick wears on me.  Several posters there need a major ego adjustment.

121 @ace..."We keep coming up short." --I hear ya.

I'd have been more comfortable with her paying a male escort who vaguely resembled Ashton Kutcher or something. With the situation as it stands it knocks my sense of equilibrium...Inception-style..

122
Listen if it did happen it would go against the laws of nature as far as mate selection and sexual partners is concerned. We'd have to go back to the Galapagos Islands and recheck Darwin's work. 

Posted by: sunny black at May 28, 2010 05:24 PM (lFhqf)

You wouldnt have to go back that far. There's a whole website dedicated to this phenomenom , Hot Chicks With Douchebags.

123 108 sunny, I know, but let's look at this: Of the stuff we have so far, we keep looking into for it for signs of disproving the claim.

We keep coming up short.


Dude.

124 108 sunny, I know, but let's look at this: Of the stuff we have so far, we keep looking into for it for signs of disproving the claim.

But why should we disprove his claim?  Shouldn't he be the one to prove it?  Until he provides concrete proof (and not records of phone calls in the wee hours but audio tape of oohs and ahs, video, etc.), I say let it go.

Besides the Sestak/Rahm/Clinton/BoZo storyline is much more important and interesting, IMHO.  Hell, the story about Rahm and BoZo at the bathhouse is more interesting than this.

125

The standard should be to prove it DID happen, not that it didn't.

Tons of phone calls don't mean Squat.  Good grief.  If it did, my daughter is currently having an affair with fifty sergeants trying to recruit her now that she just graduated HS.

Has anyone compared the number of calls she got from this person to his position and/or the number of calls she gets from others?

126 re #98, my apologies for mixing up RedState and HotAir.

I get so confused these days.

127 He should have strung this out longer.  In for a penny, in for a pound.

128 Funny? Like a clown?

129 "Sestak Grabs Lead in Pennsylvania"

130 that didn't translate into more moola for Folks.

Yeah you've never been slotted to friend. Once your in that category, a girl expects you to remodel her house for free.

_{(And not even offer a case of beer! I swear girls just don't know how to be friends right!)}

131 We keep coming up short.

Yeah, typical moron problem. _Snap!

132 I understand hot chicks w/douchebags...that makes sense.

Folks isn't just douchebag...he's a really ordinary looking -- and at certain angles kind of repulsive looking -- dude... With HCWD...these guys might have the juiced up muscles and tan, some sort of swagger, tons of money, whatever....

Like I said...he's probably got a cheesy sense of humor she went for. Impressions, people. Impressions...

133 This is getting fucking stupid. Can everyone just ignore that clown now since he's got his 15 minutes of fame. The fucker will have a tough job finding a job since he's outted himself out to be not trustworthy.

134 Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 28, 2010 05:26 PM (qTPJy)

lacey, sometimes people agree on a price for a service they are going to perform and have to stick with that price even if it takes hours and hours more which is why it is sometimes difficult to come in with the right bid in a bidding process.

He might have agreed to that amount, no matter how much time.  Probably he needed the experience and she needed the speech writer, so it was a win/win

I just don't believe it.

135 I dont know this Nikki chick from any other politician other than the pics and I would hit it.  There are other people in the race and erickson seems all butt hurt that he promoted her.  i am now on the 50% bandwagon that they did somethin'.

Nevertheless, this folks guy is a total douchebag and for me to be convinced he needs to produce pron video of such acts, mainly because he is a total self promoting slimeball.  phone records aint gonna do it which i might buy with other people.

136

@102

Well it's the people in her district that would have the best read on the situation. I went to your link, I found this interesting:

 "The other big surprise in the governorÂ’s race was Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer, whose campaign has been marred by the “poor people = stray dogs” controversy, rising in the poll to second place at 20.7 percent. Barrett was nestled in third at 14.1 percent."

So the Lt. Gov puts his fat foot in his mouth, and now attempts to disable his biggest challenger by planting a bogus non-affair story.

Where's the recorded messages, a la Gennifer Flowers? Remember, she had those recordings out faster than you could say: Billy C's my daddy!Where's the guilty party barricading himself in a bathroom, against the National Enquirer reporters who have busted him? Where's the stinkin' blue dress?? This is a piss-poor takedown attempt by South Carolina's version of the political Keystone Kops.

I give the attempt an "E" for EPIC FAIL.

137

Impressions, people. Impressions...

I'm getting the feeling that maybe your really good at.......impressions.

138 129 "Sestak Grabs Lead in Pennsylvania"

There is no hope for Pennsylvanians (not including the morons/moronettes on this site).

Did you see the post about not replacing Souder ... leaving the district without representation for 165 days?  Hmmm.

139

Hasn't anyone called another person while drunk in the middle of the night just because you don't want to sleep knowing that if you did you'd feel like crap in the morning?  I've made calls like this a couple of times...and I've also made them to make sure my drinking friend got home safely and we ended up talking longer than expected.

Hasn't anyone who's alone in a house called someone in the middle of the night just to hear someone else's voice?  I've received calls like this as a military wife.  I never made any because I had a cat.

Phone calls do not equal sex.  It's a dumb assumption.

140 Redstate's "we're the smart, connected political insider blog" schtick wears on me.  Several posters there need a major ego adjustment.

+10000.  Pride cometh before a fall, and Erickson's head (and those of Moe Lane, and Neil Stevens, and at least half-a-dozen other people there) had gotten so big it couldn't fit through the virtual door anymore.  Their collective attitude of being the driving force behind the modern conservative movement passed the point of obnoxiousness a long time ago.

This was the shark-jumping moment for RedState.  After this, no one beyond its core group of foaming assholes is going to take it seriously again.  Why the owners didn't boot Erickson's ass long ago is beyond me, but his arrogance is now finally going to bite them.  Say goodbye to your current ad rates, suckers.

141 126 The standard should be to prove it DID happen, not that it didn't.

Tons of phone calls don't mean Squat.  Good grief.  If it did, my daughter is currently having an affair with fifty sergeants trying to recruit her now that she just graduated HS.

You must admit that one call at the middle of the night is a bit suspicious, especially since Haley denied any significant relationship with Folks.  If you had a phone bill showing that somebody called your daughter for 2 hours in the wee-hours of the morning, wouldn't you be at least a little curious?

142
a 2:24 am call that went on for two hours.

Not following this at all, but that sounds like one way to make a stalker quit bothering you at 2:30 in the morning - taking the phone off the hook.

143
"The London Telegraph named Erickson the sixty-fifth most influential conservative in America in 2010. "

Number 64: Megan Mcaine
Number 63: A slab of sedimentary rock

144 Can this day get any worse?
A.  BoZo giving a speech on how he will save the day
B.  White House potentially/most likely getting away with a crime
C.  Still talking about WF
D.  Taking a shower and realizing you don't have a towel
E.   Receiving a check from your client that is fucking post-dated for fucking Monday which is a fucking holiday

Decisions, decisions.  Wine bottle or bottle of anti-depression pills?

145 Posted by: Dang Straights at May 28, 2010 05:38 PM (fx8sm)

i assumed it was her personal cell.....it isn't?

146 2 hours in one instance is stupid anyways. I've had friends that talked constantly all the time every damn night from midnight to whatever time they were tired by then. Now those people were actually bf/gf's but it seems to me it's more of a strategy/consultation/etc type of call. Especially when they're being paid on a salary and not by the hour so there are friends of mine that do work in the hours they're not "on duty" or heck even consult with other co-workers over plans for the next day. Politics is changing all the time so has anyone checked what was going on in South Carolina at the time when the call was placed? A bill proposed? Some kind of PR trip? Whatever the fuck.

147 D. Taking a shower and realizing you don't have a towel I'd be pissed if I didn't have a towel.

148 Republican politicians are held to higher standards when it comes to marital affairs; or even the appearance of one. No need in crying over it, just deal with it and watch your p's and q's. If she couldn't understand how this would look, then she's certainly not the sharpest tool in the shed.

149 600 calls doesn't seem alot to me.....for a stalker.  I broke up with a girl once who must have called me 100 times the next day, damn that was irritating.

150 "Erickson studied political science and history earning his bachelorÂ’s degree at Mercer University in Macon, Georgia, also earning his juris doctorate at MercerÂ’s Walter F. George School of Law."

Senior Year: Second Tenor Ocmulgee Whiffenpoofs

151 Always know where your towel is!

152 @roadking: "I'm getting the feeling that maybe your really good at.......impressions."
-I...absolutely...am...fairlyskilled with...doing...impressions...little man...

That's my Christopher Walken...it still needs work obviously. I keep getting stuck in that Shatner mode.

153 Republican politicians are held to higher standards when it comes to marital affairs; or even the appearance of one. No need in crying over it, just deal with it and watch your p's and q's.

All Republican women candidates will be called whores.  All.

That's just how the Feminist Party rolls.

154 It's too funny, those of us on here who are real night people don't see anything wrong with long phone calls in the middle of the night.  I guess it is according to your perspective.

155 I'm leaning towards the "emotional relationship" thing, although as lacey pointed out, that didn't translate into more moola for Folks.

Yeah, the funniest thing is that if they were really involved, he would have gotten a much better deal on consulting.

156 Let me get this straight, some are reading and paying attention to Red State and Hot air. These two blogs have something in common. What is that you ask? They both censor comments in a Little Stalin Football sorta way. You're a birther or even a just-show-us-the-former --bannned. You use the word revolution or secession---banned. Quite interesting really. Ban the words islamist or marxist? How 'bout socialist or deficit? It's a slippery slope folks and no one should stand for it or frequent places that like it. Little Red Footballs indeed. Little beta-allah footballs as well.

157 OT - The Beck TV show today is fascinating, Black Founders. Many things that I did not know before. Catch the late show tonight, it's a very good episode.

158 Maybe Will Folks was doing Sex to Joe Sestak while Bill Clinton watched.....

159 Forget it, Jake ... it's South Carolina.

160 Does anyone know if the Haley story is getting play on Maddow, Olbermann, and Matthews? Five bucks says they have a SEAL team ready to deliver day-long coverage of the South Carolina governor's race once or if Folks drops something that resembles a smoking gun....

You KNOW MSNBC is dying for this story to break....

161

129, thats a Dkos/R2000 poll, they don't have the greatest track record.

 

162

You are making a mountain out of a mole hill based on a late night call.

Tread carefully, Ace. I cannot help but feel that many people may get burned by jumping in too fast too soon. There are too many good reasons for that call so why assume the negative, especially when a turd like Folks is the one pushing it?

163 Little beta-allah footballs as well.

Posted by: dagny at May 28, 2010 05:50 PM (x1shX)

good one.

( 'Norge' is pronounced   "nor-EEE--aah"  It's what Norwegians call their country in their funny-sounding language )

164

I have no interest in Red State.

 

165 I'll have you know, though, that I'd knock the fucking bottom out of Nikki Haley.

I think it's the first time I've said that about a politician that's actually younger than me.

Hey Blazer, can I borrow some tongue depressors and duct tape?

166 curious, you're right... I just didn't realize that kind of thing was even suspicious.  Of course they call eachother, if he was working for her independently.  I guess the late night is supposed to indicate something secretive, but I would think affairs are kept away from family hours.  I guess I just don't know how that stuff works, but this obviously is nothing.

We're going to keep seeing non-evidence touted as 'tough to explain'.  They have nothing.  The attention is already well below apex now and they would have dished what they had if they had anything.

We can pretty much bank on Haley being untouched, I think.

I want to shill one more time, though.    This smear tactic will continue to be used to the advantage of the most corrupt, unless we go ahead and show it backfires.  She's going to need to talk about her views, her accountant skills, her reform attitude, and what she plans to do for her state in fighting a very tough an entrenched group of crooks.  She can't overcome all the scandal smear without funding, so if you have a spare ten or twenty, please go to nikkihaley.com and see if you like what she stands for.

 Remember, absolutely no hard evidence of this affair exists.  don't let that ruin a reformer

167 The only calls I ever got at 2:00 in the morning were from depressed woman high on drugs, I no, and I didn't date her, so I agree with the person who suggests that Haley might have been her unofficial counselor. Folks sounds like one screwed up man.

168 164I have no interest in Red State(s).

Neither do I.  They are racist bitter-clingers. 

Those miserable peons in Louisiana don't even appreciate all the hard work I've done trying to plug the damn hole.  It was Bushes' fault anyways!

169 The only calls I ever got at 2:00 in the morning were from depressed woman high on drugs, I no, and I didn't date her

You did give her a fake name though, right?  Right?

170
I'll have you know, though, that I'd knock the fucking bottom out of Nikki Haley.

I think it's the first time I've said that about a politician that's actually younger than me.

Hey Blazer, can I borrow some tongue depressors and duct tape?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 28, 2010 05:55 PM (OEKzk)

You old lecherous rapscallion you. If the innapropriate physical thing turns out to be true, I shall call her 'Quickie Nikki' from then on.

You heard it here first.

171

600 calls for a man that was paid less than five grand for his services?

???

He's a scumbag to the nth degree but at some point she has to account for the number of calls here. Esp for someone that continues to categorically deny they had any relationship.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 28, 2010 05:26 PM (qTPJy)

600 calls isn't many for a parasitic hanger-on (a REALLY parasitic one).  And she hasn't denied that they never had ANY relationship, just any personal relationship that would violate her marriage vows.  It's pretty obvious that they had a professional relationship over the years.

172 Very likely Haley was cheating on her husband with two little kids. Anyone who knows anything about both politicians and women and particularly, attractive women, would not be surprised. The hotter the chick, the bigger the douchebag.

I could see Haley finding her husband a "Kitchen Bitch" and figuring a douchebag would be "hotter." Plus being a pol, she's in danger of Clinton disease, or Edwards Syndrome, or Newsome gruesome, or Spitzer's Symptoms -- thinking you can get away with anything. It's an occupational hazard.

Folks wife, if anything, figures he's more worthwhile because a married lady screwed him. A married lady who is hot. Recall allegedly this affair took place before his marriage. Its just more validation her husband is desired by other women.

173

Oh, God: RedState Was Exaggerating For Effect, Or Something

Sad trombone.

174

( 'Norge' is pronounced   "nor-EEE--aah"  It's what Norwegians call their country in their funny-sounding language )

 

It's not pronounced that way.  Maybe that's how retards think its pronounced, but not Norwegians.

175

Video of Nikki Haley addressing the press..

..she's pretty damned sharp...she denied everything Folks says...and I believe her

Thing is....I gotta confess....I hit it hard...and often..s

...he's a dirty, dirty girl

176
OT:  California municipal officials discussing bankruptcy, Kratos hit hardest; Unclefacts kept extra busy summoning whiskey and bacon.

177

600 calls isn't many for a parasitic hanger-on

Okaaaaaay. So taking that approach she's still, at best, a dipshit. Take your phone off the hook, get a restraining order, something, anything.

I don't know how else to say it. I have no tolerance, respect, or patience for stupid women.

178

"she"..damned sticky "enter" key..

...don't ask

179 FenlonSpoke: 

Well then say that!  Why lie and say you "barely know" the guy?  Why, when she is being asked questions is she so eager to get back to her talking points?  If this was you, and you knew you'd counseled the guy on the phone, late at night, for at least 30 hours, wouldn't you be up front about that?

180

( 'Norge' is pronounced   "nor-EEE--aah"  It's what Norwegians call their country in their funny-sounding language )

Posted by: guy who's impressed by Norge women at May 28, 2010 05:55 PM (JrRME)

They're too pale.  I prefer the Sverige ones - more sun by the Baltic gives them an almost-lifelike coloration.

181

Folks wife, if anything, figures he's more worthwhile because a married lady screwed him. A married lady who is hot. Recall allegedly this affair took place before his marriage. Its just more validation her husband is desired by other women.

See, that's where I think the lie started. Him telling his now wife about an affair to make himself look like a hot playa.

Women tend not to get Edward's syndrome because all the blood doesn't drain out of their brains and into their gentalia ten times a day or more.

182 lacey:  The calls are both ways. 

183
..damned sticky "enter" key..

Meh, typical moron.

184 You old lecherous rapscallion you. If the innapropriate physical thing turns out to be true, I shall call her 'Quickie Nikki' from then on.

Fist bump if the whole "tongue depressors and duct tape" thing actually works.  At home I just have Frau stand on her hands so I can drop it in.

185 And now they have another "You must vote for Chuck DeVore" post up.  Yeah, right.  He can't convince 20% of Republicans to vote for him, but he would totally beat Boxer.

186 What intelligent, happenin', smokin' hot married chick with a promising political career wouldn't break herself off a piece of that sweet sweet Will Folks candy? Come on, man! Have you even checked him out?

And in answer to your unspoken "Do you have any kids" I anser "Well, heh.... none that I know of."

187
a piece of that sweet sweet Will Folks candy? Come on, man! Have you even checked him out?

Damn, I need to buy a hoodie.

188 lacey:  The calls are both ways. 

Posted by: seattle slough at May 28, 2010 06:05 PM (JRGA6)

Holy shit! A talking douchebag!!

189

Herr, did you hear the story about the mountain lion supposedly on the loose? Someone bought it at a flea market and it escaped....a month ago.

Awesome.

190 I still think it's Bauer because he has the most to lose. He's currently the Lt. Gov, if he loses here where else does he go? US House, he'd have to move into a Republican district, problem is that all of those are already held and he'd look like a total carpetbagger. US Senate, yeah right, he has no chance against DeMint and Grahamnesty would never allow him to challenge for that seat. If he doesn't get into the governor's office he has nowhere else to go.

His only hope right now is to finish in second place while also preventing Haley from getting 40+% in order to force a runoff, then try to pick up the majority of McMaster and Barrett supporters.

I have always thought Fast Andy was a piece of shit and hopefully this will be the end of his political career.

191 Alright, honest question here from an liberal non-troll usual lurker: What is the backstory on the snark and sometimes-outright animosity from the AoSHQ folks towards RedState? I mean, aside from the really dumb thing Erick did today? Not talking about little pissing match gossip stuff, either - what's the real conflict about? Is it country-club Republican vs. actual grass roots? Insider vs. outsider? SoCons vs. MilBlog? Seriously, I've been reading the site for better than a year and this explosion took me by surprise.

FWIW, I read this site more often because it's just funnier and waaaay less full of itself. But it just seemed from reading this thread that it went deeper than that.

192 Herr, did you hear the story about the mountain lion supposedly on the loose? Someone bought it at a flea market and it escaped....a month ago.

Can it stand on its hands?

193 A more serious point. I read here a LOT. I hardly ever post but I enjoy the comments and the snark and the crudity and the moronness. I'm having trouble finding this situation funny at all.  I know it's because I know (sort of)  and support the person involved. I've voted for her and followed her success because she is someone I respect and admire. She's local and sort of family. Also, she is very important to this state. God, what a cesspool SC is when it comes to politics. She is the only person in this race and the only one of her political generation who is serious about reforming the culture of politics here.  I don't know why she was on the phone ar 2:00 AM with this guy, but until proven otherwise, based her her track record, I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt. And she never said she did not have a relationship with him, just that it was not improper or sexual . You would have to live here to understand how much politics rules Columbia and the surrounding cities, and how the local tribal bloodsports are carried out. Think of the opening scenes of The Godfather Part Two and you're getting close. It is often said in a situation like this that only two people know what really happened, but in this case I am betting that there are at least a half dozen, probably more
.I know that objectivity and distance can be an asset in keeping a clear eye, but cynicism and disillusionment can be corrosive to the soul. I guess I can't blame anyone for being cynical, what with politicians being, well, politicians. Just don't blame me for being trusting of Nikki Haley. I've known about her and observed  her character for a long time.  She is nothing like what she is being portrayed. I trust her. Thanks for letting me ramble. This is just very hard for those of us with real hopes for change in this state.

"South Carolina: Too small to be country, too large to be an insane asylum"
James Louis Petigru

194

Herr, did you hear the story about the mountain lion supposedly on the loose? Someone bought it at a flea market and it escaped....a month ago.

Awesome.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 28, 2010 06:08 PM (qTPJy)

I've seen a lot of cool stuff and found a few hidden treasures at flea markets through the years, but that right there tops everything.

195

Can it stand on its hands?

Ya sick f*ck, ya.

196

I don't know how else to say it. I have no tolerance, respect, or patience for stupid women.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 28, 2010 06:03 PM (qTPJy)

Remember, too, that this guy claimed and even now still claims to be in favor of Haley winning the nomination, so until this "bombshell disclosure," she may have been thinking of him as an active part of her campaign.

The stupidity of being associated with a particular person sometimes only reveals itself in hindsight.

197

I haven't dared to read another Will Folks post since "Cool Facts About Will Folks." Verb + noun. It frightened me. I didn't understand. It seemed like a drug-induced foray into senseless imaginative writing. Almost Dali-like. And the comments... I wondered if it was my own fever that clouded my mind. Getting drunk has never, ever, ever been so unsettling as Will Folks.

The shaking is nearly stopped now.

 

 

198
did you hear the story about the mountain lion supposedly on the loose? Someone bought it at a flea market and it escaped

I usually go cougar hunting at jazz and wine bars, IYKWIMAITTYD.

199 What is the backstory on the snark and sometimes-outright animosity from the AoSHQ folks towards RedState?

Since you're a liberal, I'll use small words to explain.

Eh.  Just fuckin' witcha.

Erick started banning people a la Charles le Johnson over some shit that doesn't matter, and that frankly I forget, and looked like he was heading down that road, so we dish on his ass.

I never really liked his blog that much anyway, and his attempt at humor with this story was such an utter fail that he should take up crocheting.  Because he sucks as a blogger, for the most part.

200 You know when i talk to chicks at two in the morning? When i'm shitfaced and desperate to get laid that's when. Me thinks this douche did him some drunk dialing looking for a hook up and she turned him down, but since they had been working together she tried to be polite and talked to him so there wouldn't be any problems the next day. But his little feelings were hurt and now he's playing out his revenge fantasy.

201 What I don't get is this Folks douche.  Let's say everything he says is true.

Why would you say it?  He wouldn't even have to blackmail her.  He'd just have to give her office a call and drop his name.  He could get some very nice consulting gigs.

202

stinky linky, try again or spell it out without tinyurl

(sigh) try this..sorry for the source..you'll see what I mean

203 Herr, did you hear the story about the mountain lion supposedly on the loose? Someone bought it at a flea market and it escaped....a month ago.

It's illegal to sell desert tortoises but not mountain lions?  WTF?

^{But please don't tell game and fish about my desert tortoise.  I didn't buy him.  I found him in my garage.  And I'm keeping him, damn it.}

204

lacey:  The calls are both ways. 

Umm, so she continues to not only take calls but make calls to a man many here are claiming to be her "stalker"? So that makes her even more of a dumbass if that theory holds up. Thanks for making my point.

Look, if this were a case in a court of law, then yes, burden is on him to bring his evidence (which he's pretty much failed to do). But this is a trial in the courtroom of public opinion; whole different ballgame--Occam's Razer.

205 I don't know why she was on the phone ar 2:00 AM with this guy, but until proven otherwise, based her her track record, I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt.

For the most part, I think people here give her that same benefit, because A) She's fuckin' smokin' hot and B) Will Folks looks like he'd be lucky to get a blow job off of a fat, really drunk sorority girl that just happens to be an Elementary Ed. major.

But the 2 AM phone calls need plausible explanation for this story to croak.

206 I've never been to Erick's site.  Now I'll never return.  What a damned idiot.

207

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 28, 2010 06:15 PM

Someone earlier renamed his blog as Little Green Red State

208 Can it stand on its hands?

Ya sick f*ck, ya.

Posted by: Dang Straights at May 28, 2010 06:12 PM (fx8sm)

Present.

209 It seems to me that when you say you're gonna name names you better come through on that...  Red State kinda went Will Folks on us... all talk and no red meat... supposedly that was the whole twist...to be as sketchy as this consumate loser-Will Folks...  I like Erickson but this fell flat.

210

..or maybe it was Little Red Footballs

..either way, that's some funny shit right there. I don't care who you are

211 If Erick was smart, he should have put out a really lengthy post about how he has the goods and then at the very end, put something like "We don't have shit but we wanted to make a point about how ridiculous WF's story is."

Oh well.  Coulda, shoulda, woulda.

212 Erick started banning people a la Charles le Johnson over some shit that doesn't matter, and that frankly I forget, and looked like he was heading down that road, so we dish on his ass.

I never really liked his blog that much anyway, and his attempt at humor with this story was such an utter fail that he should take up crocheting.  Because he sucks as a blogger, for the most part.

Ah, the banning thing. Makes more sense now, especially considering how hard it is to get banned around here (remembering some very long, older threads about that). Thanks very much, HM. Especially for the smaller words. :-)

On the rest, we can agree: EE is not a good blogger, and after today, yikes. If that guy was on my side I'd be throwing bricks too. Not funny, either. CNN should have picked Ace - I might actually watch it then.

213 You know when i talk to chicks at two in the morning? When i'm shitfaced and desperate to get laid that's when. Me thinks this douche did him some drunk dialing looking for a hook up and she turned him down, but since they had been working together she tried to be polite and talked to him so there wouldn't be any problems the next day. But his little feelings were hurt and now he's playing out his revenge fantasy.

Posted by: koopy at May 28, 2010 06:15 PM (awinc)

And.....  we have a winner.

Douchebag:  Hey, Nikki, I'm faced.  Wanna fuck?

Nikki Haley:  Will, it's 2 AM and that's entirely inappropriate.  Goodbye.

DB:  Wait, baby I love you.  I'll stab myself if I can't be your little Pilsbury doucheboy.

NH:  Will, you're shitfaced, and you're calling your boss offering to shag her.  Do you know how stupid that is?

DB:  I'll Kill Myself!!  Wahhhhhh.  Wahhhhhh.

NH:  Now just calm down...

...............and, we've all heard the rest of this conversation at least once in our lives, from one end or the other.........

214 #193

For me, it is a couple things.  First, and most important, is that they don't have much credibility with me.  When you read their take on a race, you're getting the race as they wish it were not as it is. Example- their calls for Fiorina to drop out to clear way for Devore.  That is laughable stuff.  Another example is the Illinois governor primary.  They got behind a longshot, which is fine.  What is not fine is misleading people into thinking he's got a chance.  He didn't, and we almost got the worst candidate from it.  The guy that ended up winning, has a fine record from their standpoint too but they didn't acknowledge he had a shot at all.  They hyped up their guy instead. 

Then there is the arrogance.  They take themselves so seriously, when much of what they do is amateurish and self destructive. This is the latest, and greatest, example.  Now you have Ace here, who will play games from time to time, but every time he does it he is giving you a wink and nod somewhere so you know what the game is as he is playing it.  He's not going to hurt the cause, and may help, by taking this route.  Not those guys at Redstate.   They stumble all over themselves again and again, and this is the last straw for me. 

215 I knew Redstate was hoaxing us. 

Seriously: FUCK ERIC ERICKSON.

Persona non grata as far as I'm concerned.

216 Seriously.  I just got back home to find out this bullshit, and I would piss in Erickson's face if I could.  And then punch him in the kidneys.  An utter disgrace to conservative movement.

Haley's guilty as sin, by the way.  It's pretty fucking obvious at this point.  Vote or don't vote for her as you will, but yeah...she fucked him.  And he's a psychopath.

217 Ace said: These late night phone calls don't prove anything per se but they are consistent with *something.*

ItÂ’s not surprising that Folks has at least some evidence to support his claim, even if he is lying (which I think he is)- because if he didnÂ’t have something he could point to, he probably wouldnÂ’t have made the claim. However, if these phone calls are the best he has, he doesn't appear to have much.  

 

218 Seriously, I was shaving with it just a minute ago.  Where did I put it?

219 """"Haley claimed she "barely knew" Folks""""

Bullshit, where did she say that?

220

Does anyone know if the Haley story is getting play on Maddow, Olbermann, and Matthews? Five bucks says they have a SEAL team ready to deliver day-long coverage of the South Carolina governor's race once or if Folks drops something that resembles a smoking gun....

You KNOW MSNBC is dying for this story to break....

I don't think it will get play, at least not yet.  I could be wrong though because I don't pay attention to them unless they're being ripped on here.  Now if she wins the primary and becomes the Republican gubernatorial candidate then it will get play because it allows them to play one of their favorite cards: "Republicans are hypocrites!!!!"

221 I'm removing RedState from my bookmarks.

And no married woman will have a two hour phone call with her lover in the middle of the night. That sounds like a classic work-related thing.

222 There are two other troubling things about the phone calls. First, when the story broke, Haley claimed she "barely knew" Folks. Obviously this was untrue.

Where did she claim she "barely knew" him?

223 lucky to get a blow job off of a fat, really drunk sorority girl that just happens to be an Elementary Ed. major.

Fat, drunk, and majoring in el-ed is no way to go through life, toots.

224 226 There are two other troubling things about the phone calls. First, when the story broke, Haley claimed she "barely knew" Folks. Obviously this was untrue.

Where did she claim she "barely knew" him?

Posted by: Jon at May 28, 2010 06:54 PM (Xt7UU)

I get the feeling you won't be getting linked evidence to this.  So you'll probably have to look up Haley's denials yourself for either confirmation or refutation of the stupid one's claim.

225 Caring in 3, 2, 1...   Nope, it's not working.  I've nothing against South Carolina, but I do not care about this story. 

It's not like someone was bribed to drop out of a Senate campaign.  That would be wrong, and investigated properly and thoroughly.

Would it be OK to wish for a disease that killed only all politicians of all parties, quickly and painlessly?

226 Since when does a nice looking, accomplished, intelligent woman cheat on her husband with a poor, fat, balding, loser? Sorry, but this folks clown aint exactly Brad Pitt. Seriously, when has his happened? lol If he was a billionaire showering her with diamonds, MAYBE, but come on.

227 Yeah, I'd be interested in the source of the "barely knew" meme, too, since a googlatory look at the innerweb shows that phrase appearing only on political commentary blogs (most prevalently on Lefty sites like kos and democraticunderground). Haven't found a single news organization that has quoted Haley as "barely knew" Folks.

228 What bothers me about this the most is that there is no evidence anything bad happened. Records showing calls were made PROVE NOTHING about an affair. Now, if I were to go public tomorrow and claim I had an affair with Obama, the media would not take me seriously even if I had worked on his campaign and had the same phone records. Because this "scandal" hurts a conservative, then the media swoops in and implies it is true even when there is no evidence. MAKES ME SICK!

229 Come on Seattle Slough let's see you demonstrate that you're not full of shit.  Where's your link to the "barely knew" claim?

230 Hey Buzzion, I think it's time to let this one go.  I'm afraid you're about to get that limb you're out on sawed off in a major way. 

I know, I know -- it's easy for me to say that 'cause I don't have a dog in this hunt out here in the Midwest.  But still...

231 Oh I don't mind I'll happily apologize to the stupid liberal hack if he can give a link to the "barely knew" claim.

232 #232

Which is why teasing up a smoking gun that doesn't exist is so damn self destructive.  The right play is to either ignore it, or state the updates as he leaks them and state that we still don't really have any proof of anything yet. 

A lot of this story is being kept alive by our side.  Now I can't blame Ace, or others, for linking up to it when a presumed "friend" boasts about having a smoking gun.  With friends like that, who needs enemies?  If I'm Ace, I'm highly pissed about this right now. 

233 I do it to help the Will Folks.

234 yarrr:  I'm going to concede that quote has no attribution.  FITS news put that phrase in quotes as if it was said.  Perhaps it was, perhaps it wasn't.  Perhaps it was and there is a record and perhaps not. 

I haven't listed to every scrap of audio that is available. 

I will certainly stop quoting it until it is verified somehow.

Thanks.

235

236 The barely knew claim is bogus.

237 Also stalkers call at ALL HOURS.

238 Note about Eric Erickson and Red State, they are often full of shit.  His ego is writing checks he can't cash.  Not a fan.

239

RE # 215 .... I apparently have been banned from RedState for criticizing Erick for his shameful, unethical little stunt.  That was in the thread where he invited people to pile on. 

I wonder if it was when I said the commenters on RedState were as bad as LGF ...  or that even Charles Johnson has more integrity than Erick Erickson?  After all, even Mad King Charles *tries* to back up his bullshit .. .

Note to RedState supporters "JadedConservative" and "Achance"  ....  principled conservatives do not lie nor tolerate those who do.  You both want so badly to appear grown-up, but you're both remind of 15 year old cheerleaders who're going to support your QB no matter what! 

Shakes my head in wonderment.  Wondering if I am the first person ever to be banned from both LGF and RS without ever having used profanity.  At least CJ told me he was kicking me for disagreeing with him.

 

240 Tryptic -

I was banned from RedState years ago for the crime of suggesting that Ben Domenech had really befouled his reputation with the plagiarism scandal.  They *banned* me for that.  Unfortunately the banning didn't alter reality, and Domenech's name still remains utter dirt in the political world.

I lost complete respect for RS after that kerfuffle.  Their "SURRENDER CARLY!" hilarity in recent weeks (pushing DeVore) only reminded me of how hackish they are.

I mean seriously: how fucking hackish do you have to be that a complete conservative GOP hack like me finds you unacceptable? 

241 Note to RedState supporters "JadedConservative" and "Achance"  ....  principled conservatives do not lie nor tolerate those who do.  You both want so badly to appear grown-up, but you're both remind of 15 year old cheerleaders who're going to support your QB no matter what!

This, this, a thousand times this. 

242 @245
Ditto

243 Oh, sure. Whatever. It's all real.

And Leprechauns are real. And we're being invaded by Madagascar.

Gotta go back to EARTH now, bai-bai.

244 205 Herr, did you hear the story about the mountain lion supposedly on the loose? Someone bought it at a flea market and it escaped....a month ago.

It's illegal to sell desert tortoises but not mountain lions?  WTF?

Well, I know what I'M doing this weekend...

245 Hmmmm.

RedState.com's little remaining credibility .... burn, baby burn.

246 Maybe I missed it, but why are we expected to accept non-authenticated typed records as proof of the fact asserted? If the phone calls Fits asserts occurred, then why can't he scan the actual bills instead of typing them into the blog. I don't believe either the texts or the phone records until I see the actual documents.

247 Including, alas, the sad fact that while many of these calls are explainable, there is the matter of a 2:24 am call that went on for two hours.

I've had several all nighter conversations with wickedpinto and I can promise you my children's lives I wasn't having an affair with him.

248 I probably shouldn't have even admitted that.

249 "I don't believe either the texts or the phone records until I see the actual documents." Tim Pearson has already acknowledged that the texts from him are authentic.

250 And now, for a musical interlude in honor of the rumor mongers and bloggers. 

251 I probably shouldn't have even admitted that.

Posted by: pajama momma at May 28, 2010 09:51 PM (fo4Wl)

Seriously. It would look better if it was an affair. Why would anyone WANT to talk with Wickedpinto?

252 Jesus God, I'm so pissed about this I could spit bullets. RS did have a lot of credibility. DID. Why did Erick so something this fucking stupid. Democrats do this shit.

253 "
Haley's guilty as sin, by the way.  It's pretty fucking obvious at this point.  Vote or don't vote for her as you will, but yeah...she fucked him.  And he's a psychopath.

Posted by: Jeff B. at May 28, 2010 06:44 PM (rt1d2)"

I don't think you have anything to really base this on.  I think late night calls are not that big a deal for many people, and she already admitted they worked together.  This is a lot of calls, and that means basically nothing.  If that's enough to convince you, then I'm afraid just about everyone has some oddball thing in their lives that would look funny out of context.  Also, many of the people who wind up working for a politician also were friends or volunteers first.  Politicians rely on tons of volunteers.  I can't speculate with any accuracy, because we're being fed extremely cherry picked details.  With that in mind, I think the case against Nikki Haley is very weak.  The guy hasn't even come out and explicitly said they had sex or even an affair at this point, as far as I know.  Even though attention is waning.

On your other point, I agree people can still vote or not vote for her with this in mind (though I don't trust people who lie to their spouses).

What's super frustrating about this specific case is that Red State has helped fuel the fire, the scandal, and the attack.  They put themselves out there as the opposition to Folks, and they had nothing.  That really hurts their cause.  I remember they kept saying 'tune back in!  Cliff hanger!'  They are profiting off this scandal. They are just a different type of Will Folks.  There's a certain type of republican who is all about the political game, and not about the principles, or standing up for what's right.

Erick has always struck me as a game player first.

254 "Maybe I missed it, but why are we expected to accept non-authenticated typed records as proof of the fact asserted? If the phone calls Fits asserts occurred, then why can't he scan the actual bills instead of typing them into the blog. I don't believe either the texts or the phone records until I see the actual documents.

Posted by: mjhlaw at May 28, 2010 09:11 PM (uSs/o)"

This is a fair point.  We don't know if the calls are accurate.  In fact, we know for sure this is the type of record Folks has lied about before (like those emails from his battered wife he chopped up).  For all I know, he used a start time and end time of different calls.  I know that's kinda silly.  For all I know, the call wasn't really to her, or was on hold for a while, or a late night meeting.

And Pajama Momma has a great point too.  It's been a long time since I had a friend of the opposite sex who wasn't my wife, but it's not unusual out there.  Lots of people have close friends, and Folks clearly is trying to destroy Haley for a reason.  This fits well with that 'his advances were spurned'.   Folks likes to hurt women he thinks he's in love with... we already know that.

Maybe the call was a friendship sort of thing.

It's so easy to wildly speculate about this call because it's a cherry picked vague but plausible 'hmmm'.  It is almost completely meaningless.  Seattle Slough's interpretation, that this exposes some kind of deception, is utterly unfair.

255 Steve, thanks for your comment, I found it very insightful.  I had some of the same thoughts about what was happening to Haley, and you confirmed some of my gut instincts on the matter. 

And very well said about the corrosiveness to the soul.

~RI

<blockquote>195 A more serious point. I read here a LOT. I hardly ever post but I enjoy the comments and the snark and the crudity and the moronness. I'm having trouble finding this situation funny at all.  I know it's because I know (sort of)  and support the person involved. I've voted for her and followed her success because she is someone I respect and admire. She's local and sort of family. Also, she is very important to this state.

God, what a cesspool SC is when it comes to politics. She is the only person in this race and the only one of her political generation who is serious about reforming the culture of politics here.  I don't know why she was on the phone ar 2:00 AM with this guy, but until proven otherwise, based her her track record, I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt.

And she never said she did not have a relationship with him, just that it was not improper or sexual . You would have to live here to understand how much politics rules Columbia and the surrounding cities, and how the local tribal bloodsports are carried out. Think of the opening scenes of The Godfather Part Two and you're getting close.

It is often said in a situation like this that only two people know what really happened, but in this case I am betting that there are at least a half dozen, probably more.

I know that objectivity and distance can be an asset in keeping a clear eye, but cynicism and disillusionment can be corrosive to the soul. I guess I can't blame anyone for being cynical, what with politicians being, well, politicians. Just don't blame me for being trusting of Nikki Haley. I've known about her and observed  her character for a long time.  She is nothing like what she is being portrayed. I trust her.

Thanks for letting me ramble. This is just very hard for those of us with real hopes for change in this state.

"South Carolina: Too small to be country, too large to be an insane asylum"
James Louis Petigru

Posted by: stevea28 at May 28, 2010 06:11 PM (zLcW7)</blockquote>

256

Maybe they were watching Casablanca and chatting about it on the phone ... sort of like Meg Ryand and Billy Crystal in When Harry Met Sally.  

Except not as funny.  And in Columbia - where they except for the college kids in Five Points and a few hardy souls at the Capitol Cafe on Main, they roll up the sidewalks at 11:00 p.m.

Ilsa/Nikki:  But what about us?

Rick/Will   We'll always have Columbia

Capt. Renault / Erick Erickson:    I am shocked, shocked to find lying on this blog! 

***

Any conservative South Carolinian with half a brain who doesnt see the handwriting on the wall and shift their vote from Haley to McMaster is basically voting for Sheheen.  Happy Memorial Day.

257

"Any conservative South Carolinian with half a brain who doesnt see the handwriting on the wall and shift their vote from Haley to McMaster is basically voting for Sheheen.  Happy Memorial Day.

Posted by: tryptic at May 29, 2010 01:16 PM (SmkRj)"

And there it is.  McMaster's people once again harshly attack Haley.  McMaster is a real piece of work.  There's nothing here.  A cherry picked piece of data that isn't verified, and only comes from a guy we already know lies and misquotes his battered wife.  Even if it were completely accurate (which is just plain unlikely), it could mean anything.  A 2 hour call could mean he was on hold during some late night project.  It could be a setup.  It could have been to someone other than Haley, but on a line associated with her.  It could have even never have happened.

But McMaster wants you to conclude that it's proof.  Why?  Because this isn't an attack from democrats, it's an attack from the corrupt against a reformer.  McMaster is not going to make any improvement to South Carolina.  Other than redistricting, which isn't a huge deal in this state anyway, there is no fundamental difference between McMaster and Sheheen.

And polls are pretty clear that the GOP nominee will win, no matter this scandal.  This is a very red state.  Telling people to abandon Haley over absolutely nothing but the cherry picked BS from a proven liar is terrible and self serving.  If that's really the best argument McMaster has, we need to stick to Haley.  All this talk about how she's a super sexy tart makes me sick too.  True, she's not hideous, but she's basically an average looking woman who has an incredibly good record fighting corruption and being fiscally smart.

As I said in the last thread before I flipped out and helped derail it, this kind of attack has been waged against Chris Christie.  Should we abandon him?  It was levied against Mccain, W, W's wife, Clarence Thomas, Justice Alito, Sarah Palin and her husband, and a very long list of others.  Usually with much more evidence than this "he claims they had a lengthy phone call!"  Usually with less of a denial from the victim, too.

The argument to abandon any candidate that is merely accused is something that will cost us every single reformer.  The corrupt know this works and will employ it.  When the GOP settles on a 2012 nominee, someone will be paid to assert an affair with that person.

Please make sure this tactic backfires, check out nikkihaley.com, and if you like her agenda, give her some money.  *THAT* is the best way to kill this scandal.

258 Also, I'm not claiming McMaster is funding Folks.

But some of his supporters are happily using this to paint Haley as some hot piece of ass who maybe is just someone we can't rely on.  They have nothing.

259

RE # 265 Lex:

1.  Try as you might to make me McMaster, or blame McMaster for Folks, or hide the fact Nikki first claimed she barely knew Folks, you are on a five day bender on the Vista if you think (a) the GOP has a cakewalk against Sheheen or (b) rank-and-file South Carolinians are going to vote for somone with a big, fat adultery cloud hanging over them. 

2.  Anyway Nikki's lil buddy Erick Erickson says is Andre Bauer dontcha know, so why ya so down on Henry.  I suppose Nikki folks are going to hold everyone accountable for Folks (who is an admitted douche-nozzle), but I don't seem to recall our AG being on the phone witll Will for a couple of hours after midnight in a non-election year. 

3.  Basic examination of most statewide SC races in the past 4-5 election cycles show a fairly consistent 55:45 advantage to the GOP, in both non-presidential and presidential election years.  That means if just 5 pecent flips, its a toss up.

4.  In case you missed it, our last governor - (formerly) a close ally of Ms. Haley -  imploded so completely and pathetically that he probably would hae been impeached if weren't (a) for the extrame bathos of his national humiliation, and his abject self-mortification and (b) the fact that his removal would have resulted in swearing in Governor Bauer, which was un-palatable on a bipartisan level.  The Democrats have been grooming Vincent Sheheen for years, and this is their best opportunity to take back the Governor's Mansion since Jim Hodges.  Dont think for a minute this is a cakewalk for the GOP.   

5.  We need our best candidate.  I thought  that was Nikki.  But its not.  I'm sorry you don't like McMaster (trying to equate him to Sheheen is just plain stoooooopid though).  I'm going with the safe bet.  Im not paid by him.  Just making the smart play. 

6.  But if you and Erick-efffing-Erickson want to keep playing footsie with damaged goods, then vote how you will.  I could care less.  I will be curious, however, to see if Jenny Sanford, paragon of domestic virtue, will be standing by Nikki come Tuesday. 

260 "I will be curious, however, to see if Jenny Sanford, paragon of domestic virtue, will be standing by Nikki come Tuesday."
That's an interesting little tidbit. What's going to happen between now and Tuesday, and how did you come to be aware of it? Anything you'd care to share?

261 268   Pure idle speculation.  Unlike Nikki's friend Erick, I dont promise goods I dont have.  Maybe Jenny will still be there - which would probably help Nikki tremendously.   But maybe Jenny won't.

262 "But maybe Jenny won't." You are really starting to sound like a concern troll at best and a McMaster's troll plant at worst. Either say it plainly or stop insinuating things.

263 On second thought, ignore the last post. I'm too close to this right now. I'm out of this for a while. Sorry for the troll comment.

264 272 ... i agree -  perhaps best to step away.   Most of my venom is reserved for Erick Erickson anyway.  It has interfered with my proper and righteous anger at The One, Congressman Sleesze-tak and other various democrats, high and low.  And if I were working for Henry McMaster, I assume he'd rather have me calling people to GOTV rather than trolling about on Ace ... so don't sweat the troll comment. 

265

I sent Niki some more money. 

Don't play their game.

266 " hide the fact Nikki first claimed she barely knew Folk"

Bullshit... she did not say she barely knew Folks...

267

Whoops, looks like Will Folks was telling the truth.  Any mea culpas around here?  Anyone?  Anyone?  I didn't think so.

You people are amazing.  If a liberal/Democrat is accused of doing something you instantly believe it is true.  If a conservative/Republican is accused of doing something, you instantly believe it is untrue.  I guess this is because conservatives/Republican politicians never cheat on their spouses, right?  LMAO!  Ya gotta love those family values conservatives!  Morality for me but not for thee.  Keep up the good work, wingnuts.