1 I'm so alone.

2 Good post.

3 BTW
Where has CAIR been in all this?

4 Under their logic, I should be a hero for reporting to 911 a delivery truck that was swerving in and out of lanes and bumping against the shoulder on the freeway.

5

An idea simultaneously popped up on several Lefty blogs earlier today (which means it will probably be in the opinion pages of the Washington Post and the NY Times by the weekend).

Gabe, do any of those "ideas" have a post time? I was just wondering how far apart they were and who was actually fist, and where they were (what site).

The mechanism of information dissemination and general meme velocity just seems too damn efficient on lefty blogs and newspapers these last couple of years.

That means they really do only read a few of their own blogs and almost nothing else, or there is some level of coordination going on.

6 "I am not a Leftist: my expectations don't change depending on the skin color, politics, or religion of whoever I'm talking about."

Unless they're Lefties of course.

Then I smear them with a very broad brush.

7 He didn't stop a bombing, it was a failed bombing.

8 Gabe, I think this is a classic issue of perception.  The left thinks that this shores up the "not all Muslims are bad" anti-profiling argument, that this will help dispel stereotypes about Middle Easterners. At first glance, it does seem to be a double standard... IF you believe that the MFM goes out of its way to pair terrorism with Islam.

In fact, the left is the one with the double standard.  We're not supposed to rush to judgment on the religion of the bomber, but it should come into play when a Muslim is not a terrorist?

9 Related topic: look what Comedy Central is working on now!

Jesus show on Comedy Central slate 22 projects also include sex-chat talker, 'Odd Couple' update

By James Hibberd

May 6, 2010, 12:00 AM ET

Comedy Central is set to unveil an eclectic development slate that tackles sex, drugs, rock 'n' roll and religion.

The network has 22 projects in the pipeline ranging from script deals to pilots, with the usual formats of animated shows, sketch comedy and talk shows represented.

Standout ideas include a live sex-chat talk show, a program based on a Funny or Die Web short, an update of "The Odd Couple" and an animated series about Jesus Christ.

That last item could raise eyebrows coming on the heels of the network's recent censorship of "South Park" for attempting to depict the Prophet Muhammad. The show in development, "JC," is a half-hour about Christ wanting to escape the shadow of his "powerful but apathetic father" and live a regular life in New York.

"In general, comedy in its purest form always makes some people uncomfortable," said Comedy Central head of original programming Kent Alterman, who returned to the network in January after a stint at New Line.

10 I've been busy with finals, but can someone explain the MFM to me? Ya, I know. It's a dumb question.

11 God,snapdragon,you are a one-note fucking douchebag.

12 "In general, comedy in its purest form always makes some people uncomfortable,"

As opposed to that impure Carol Burnett and Bob Newhart.

13 Gabe's got a great point.

It's a lot like how people are so amazed when a black man returns a wallet he found or amazed that a woman parked a car correctly.

It is obviously insulting.  I am glad this vendor was alert and got help.  Some people really would not do that... some people simply don't give a shit and will snap a picture or ignore a problem.  It's hardly supererogatory to call the cops to this kind of event.

That people think this is proof of something about Islam is just nutty.  On the other hand, this is much better than the average shit I see out there.  If someone wanted to make a big deal over women who can drive or blacks who return wallets, well, I think it's insulting and dumb, but maybe it will actually have some kind of impact.  Maybe some Muslims out there will become eager to thwart attacks? 

If they are trying to argue that we don't need to go out and lynch Muslims, well, then they are pretty damn stupid.  9/11 didn't lead to lynchings and hysteria, and this obviously won't either.  Anyone freaking about backlash is simply a liar or deeply fucked up.

14 "Taliban doesn't pay very well.. car bombers have to supply their own cars"

15 "Finally, you don't get bonus points for doing the right thing."
 
I don't know, common sense is in short supply these days,  Maybe he's deserving a gold star on his forehead for thinking straight at least.

16 10 I've been busy with finals, but can someone explain the MFM to me? Ya, I know. It's a dumb question.

Posted by: vai2112 at May 06, 2010 01:26 AM (TcILN)

Mother Fucker Media

17 I could talk about that one black guy who shows up at Tea Parties the Tea Partiers always point to in their pictures to prove they're not racists.

But that's nothing like the Muslim vendor in question, is it?

18 If they are trying to argue that we don't need to go out and lynch Muslims, well, then they are pretty damn stupid.  9/11 didn't lead to lynchings and hysteria, and this obviously won't either.  Anyone freaking about backlash is simply a liar or deeply fucked up.

That's the other assumption behind this kind of double-standard talk.

19 It's the Mother F#cking Media. (Ace commenter came up with it a few days ago, and it now has the official Ace of Spades seal of approval.)

20 but the short version is that some Lefties are upset that the legacy media is not giving enough attention to Aliou Niasse, the t-shirt vendor who first alerted the NYPD to the Times Square carbomb. They're particularly steamed that the media isn't trumpeting the man's religious background and national origin. It seems that Niasse is a Muslim immigrant from Senegal and these bloggers are taking the opportunity to pontificate on the overlooked "good samaritanism" of Muslims.

Uh ... what is the big deal about telling cops that an SUV is smoking?  I don't see how this is even relevant in any way.  If the bomb was put together correctly, it would have blown.  Period.  Since it wasn't, it didn't blow - regardless of anyone being notified. 

The overall coverage of this attack, by the left and the MFM, is just pure, unadelterated insanity and stupidity.

21 17

So what, you saying all black people look alike?

Man, that's just a fcked thing to say, dawg.

22 9/11 didn't lead to lynchings and hysteria, and this obviously won't either.  Anyone freaking about backlash is simply a liar or deeply fucked up.

I remember within days after 9/11 MTV was running commercials with Muslims and other multicultural looking people saying, "We're Americans, too. Please don't beat us." Ok, so I added that last sentence, but the message was not to beat up on swarthy looking people because of a major terrorist attack. Stupid then, stupid now.

23 andycanuck @ YIKES! Thanks! It's soooo appropriate!

24 The way the Left disperses information isn't new - their form of choice began in the Clinton years, early when they still used fax machines to distribute the daily talking points on how Clinton wouldn't lie and would never have done such a thing, and Monica Lewinsky was just another slutty nut or nutty slut like the first couple dozen women who accused him.

Then nerdy little toady Josh Marshall started his Talking Points Memo site, which made it all easier.  On the Left, most find thinking for themselves just gives them a headache at best, and at worst forces them to examine the underlying contradictions and false premises of their entire belief system, so as you see they avoid it any way they can.

25

Maybe instead of an “Everybody Draw Mohammed Day,” we should have a “Beg a Muslim Not to Kill You Day,” in which non-Muslims swarm mosques and halal markets and anyone walking down the street in a hijab or in the company of a woman wearing a hijab, and we all prostrate ourselves in front of them, wailing and screaming, “Please don’t kill us! Please don’t blow yourself up or chop off our heads!”

It’d be great street theater. But of course, instead of its desired impact – to shame our fellow Muslims into speaking out against their murderous extremist brethren – I fear we’d all be brought up on hate speech charges for insinuating that our Muslim fellow citizens might ever harbor murderous intent.

26 9/11 didn't lead to lynchings and hysteria, and this obviously won't either.  Anyone freaking about backlash is simply a liar or deeply fucked up.

Posted by: Sentient Nintendo 64 at May 06, 2010 01:30 AM (dUOK+)

Actually, there was an anti-backlash against muslims after 9/11.  You didn't hear muslims mouthing off about much of anything before 9/11, but afterwards, you couldn't shut them up or stop their complaints.  There were a few mosques around before 9/11, but it seems like the building of them went into overdrive after the Al Quaeda attack.  America reacted exactly incorrectly to 9/11, which is why we still have the exact same problem with the muzzies.  We brought more muslims into the US after 9/11 than came into the US from Columbus' first contact to the mid 20th century - for some truly insane and inexplicable reason.

I think Churchill said it best in 1899 (The River War):

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries.

Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.

The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science‹the science against which it had vainly struggled‹the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."

Not much has changed in 100 years, and won't change in the next hundred.

27 The Left simply lacks deep thinkers like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh to guide them towards right thinking, adjoran.

28 If the bomb was put together correctly, it would have blown.  Period.

But all bombs are modeled after the one from Mission:  Impossible and Loony Toons cartoons.  There's a big long smoking fuse, and then Wiley Coyote looks all skinny and burnt and stuff.  I believe this is covered in the civics class required of all high school seniors.

Given that a lot of people probably think that this is how every single bomb works, (let's discuss hypergolic fuels, shall we?) the Good Muslim wouldn't necessarily have known that the bomb was faulty.  He did the right thing, of course, as any human being who gives a flying shit would.  But the presumption behind the MFM media stands as kinda racially racist.

29 The Left seems to believe that this fellow did something heroic, but in fact he simply noticed smoke coming from a running vehicle and flagged down a nearby police officer. I'm glad he did, but it was hardly out of the ordinary. I would expect the same from anyone, regardless of their race, religion, nationality, or political ideology. http://tinyurl.com/33fgjf9 This seems vaguely similar. NATO is thinking about making a new medal to be awarded for soldiers NOT doing something. For their "courageous restraint" There's a meme floating around and it's very infectious...

30 The Left simply lacks deep thinkers

This far any sane person will agree.

31 So now Niasse will be hunted down for not going with the jihad. Few days we'll have some new guy (illegal alien) from Somali selling the shirts.

I guess Niasse didn't go to the mosque for the latest terror news.

32 25 Maybe instead of an “Everybody Draw Mohammed Day,” we should have a “Beg a Muslim Not to Kill You Day,” in which non-Muslims swarm mosques and halal markets and anyone walking down the street in a hijab or in the company of a woman wearing a hijab, and we all prostrate ourselves in front of them, wailing and screaming, “Please don’t kill us! Please don’t blow yourself up or chop off our heads!” It’d be great street theater. But of course, instead of its desired impact – to shame our fellow Muslims into speaking out against their murderous extremist brethren – I fear we’d all be brought up on hate speech charges for insinuating that our Muslim fellow citizens might ever harbor murderous intent. Posted by: stuiec at May 06, 2010 01:48 AM (W+GYq) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ..point, good

33 This seems vaguely similar. NATO is thinking about making a new medal to be awarded for soldiers NOT doing something.

Hmm, wonder if I can get me one of those to go along with the Nobel?

34

That muslim "hero" was gonna get blowed up too...

I appreciate he was a citizen first and a Muslim second.  Which makes him a keeper.

35 “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you,” is indeed a simple thought, Waterhouse.

So is, “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.”

36 > 25 Maybe instead of an “Everybody Draw Mohammed Day,” we should have a “Beg a Muslim Not to Kill You Day,” Posted by: stuiec You know, that's a pretty clever idea. But let it stay as a thought experiment. One of the reasons US law enforcement has had pretty good success in breaking up terror plots since 9/11 is that US Muslims are very willing to drop a dime on the crazies. More willing than they are in most other counties. That being the case, why insult them?

37 snapdragon, quit hogging the glory hole, you knucklehead! That last hobo told me you kept biting down and then he kicked me in the nuts.

I'm so telling Axelrod.

38 You can't walk down Broadway without seeing Indian Muslim hot dog vendors God love ya...

39 17 I could talk about that one black guy who shows up at Tea Parties the Tea Partiers always point to in their pictures to prove they're not racists. But that's nothing like the Muslim vendor in question, is it? Posted by: snapdragon at May 06, 2010 01:32 AM (5Etcj) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 'Pardon me, but I couldn't help but notice that your baby is all covered with tar..'

40 Tell Dave Vitter (R-Hofarm) is in no position to complain, Ergie.

41 To be honsest, I never thought about it being a bomb _{(otherwise my ass woulda been outta there!)}.

I just kinda thought the car was on fire and was gonna burn my t-shirts. They're not cheap you know, good quality. Wanna buy one? Only $20.

42

#39

Those guys too. (God love ya)

43 Wait a minute, at that point, even the Mayor thought it was a crazy tea bagger bomb. So, following lefty logic, this Muslim was reporting what he thought was a right wing nut job -- not a fellow travellers device.  So he should be commended for that or excoriated.  My head hurts.  

44 Nice try, snapdragon. You goose-steppers have never progressed beyond "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his means".

And you've killed 100 million in the process.

Carve that on your headstone.

45

Look, I like the fact that a muslim guy did something good for a change.  In a sense, that's real news.  Is it just b/c of his religion that it's getting play?  Sure.  And the bomb might have gone off if it had burned a little longer.  Plus, how did our vendor buddy know it was a  coreligionist who planted th ebomb.  He might have wanted to report someone  who was nagry about the health bill.

But here's the real point in responsding to Gabe's post:  the Left is almost always MORE guilty of teh racism it lays at the feet of the right than anything the actual political right (not the fringers, who, let's admit can be pretty bad) engages in. 

To teh Left, all blacks are shiftless and lazy, that's why cutting welfare "hurts blacks most."  To the Left, all A-rabs are terrorists, that's why they fear a massive backlash.  to the left, Mexicans are too stupid to learn our language, so we have to print everything in Spanish (despite the fact that Mexico has an 89.6% literacy rate, and the folks coming over are not the highest educated of people).

It's this massive ball of bigotry, projection and guilt, masquerading as ideology.  They harbor all these negative thoughts about those different from them physically, but think they can make all that badness go away by making their bigotry into this weird fuzzy blanket of platitudes and bromides.  I guess they think that if they think those dirty, illiterate peons are noble savages, it's OK to still think of them as dirty, illiterate peons.

46 I could talk about that one black guy who shows up at Tea Parties the Tea Partiers always point to in their pictures to prove they're not racists.

You clearly haven't attended a tea party. There's not "one black guy" or one Hispanic guy. Gallup found the movement has a pretty good representation of America. And the New York Times even took notice of a large number of black righties not only becoming active but actually running for office.

Your talking points are a day late and...completely fucking stupid.

47 "needs" not "means", of course.

48 @ 39

Hey f@ck off, I'm working here!

T-shirts! Get your t-shirts from a gen-u-ine hero!

49

35 “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you,” is indeed a simple thought, Waterhouse.

So is, “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.”

Careful, snapdragon, you're getting close to real heresy there.  if you actually believe in the faith, you would not use it for cheap political point scoring on a blog.

Christ was not advancing a political agenda there.  And to make Christianity a political faith (a la Islam) political is how we ended up with the Papal States/inquisition/war of roses/later crusades/hundred years war, etc.

50 You're as confused as a Tea Partier asked on camera why they still cash their Social Security check,  Waterhouse.

The Democrats are all about helping the little people.

51 ..point, good

Posted by: Godot at May 06, 2010 01:55 AM (aaphP)

Thanks.  Because Comedy Central's censorship of South Park shows what the Left REALLY thinks of Muslims: that they're all murderous fanatics.

See, the Left SAYS that Christians are all murderous fanatics who assassinate abortion doctors and crucify gay men, but they KNOW that there are so very few murderous fanatics among Christians that they can mock Jesus with impunity.  By contrast, the Left SAYS that Muslims are peaceful, patriotic A-OK Americans, but they BELIEVE that so many Muslims are murderous fanatics that they don't dare make fun of Mohammed.

That's the reason they are all so fixated on a Muslim street vendor doing what ordinary, peaceful, patriotic A-OK Americans do: they want to cling to any shred of evidence that they are wrong about American Muslims.  As for the Right, the fact that there's been no backlash against American Muslims is proof that non-Leftist Americans recognize that American Muslims aren't a monolithic entity but (like all other ethnic and religious groups) are individuals with individual motivations and ideologies.

52 You know, that's a pretty clever idea. But let it stay as a thought experiment. One of the reasons US law enforcement has had pretty good success in breaking up terror plots since 9/11 is that US Muslims are very willing to drop a dime on the crazies. More willing than they are in most other counties. That being the case, why insult them?

We've stopped terror attacks largely because of eaves dropping, network monitoring, interrogations, and the like. Some informants, yes, but you'll find many more individuals who will remain quiet about jihadist terrorism.

"More willing than they are in most other countries" leaves a lot of room for interpretation there. If there are two individuals willing to help elsewhere and three here, there's more here. It's very relative.

Finally, we insult because they don't condemn. Did I miss the Islamic community's outcry over the very suggestion that someone should be killed for mentioning "Mohammad" on South Park?

53 The Democrats are all about helping the little people.

Yeah!

54 But here's the real point in responsding to Gabe's post:  the Left is almost always MORE guilty of teh racism it lays at the feet of the right than anything the actual political right (not the fringers, who, let's admit can be pretty bad) engages in. 

Posted by: hobgoblin at May 06, 2010 02:05 AM (PpeVF)

Why the "almost"?  The modern left's whole political ideology is immersed in racism.  They could not even exist without their dependence on racism.  The modern left are proud to go on about their partitioning of the world into "race, class, gender".  The left is pure tribalism and they are fairly effective in forcing the tribalization of society, as a whole - but only because someone let them out of their sandbox.

55 The Democrats are all about helping the little people.

Yeah!

56

Why the "almost"? 

rhetoric.

57 The Democrats are all about helping the little people.

Wait, what's my level again?

58 The Democrats are all about helping the little people.

Posted by: snapdragon at May 06, 2010 02:10 AM (5Etcj)

LOL.  The democrats are all about self-hate, irrationality (emotions) and stupidity.  Tell us more how empathy is the most important trait for a judge to have ...

59 You're as confused as a Tea Partier asked on camera why they still cash their Social Security check,  Waterhouse.

Because they've been paying in under force and want their damn money back. Doesn't mean they want more entitlement programs or wouldn't want to be able to go back in history and defeat the concept of Social Security.

You sound as confused as a liberal who whines about the Bush Administration's national security policies and then enjoys the safety brought about by them.

The Democrats are all about helping the little people.

The Democrats are about making the "little people" dependent on the Democrats. They're about keeping "the little people", "little". Support for slavery never actually ended in the Democratic Party. It just changed branding.

60 The Democrats are all about helping the little people.

And God knows history proves the best way to do that is to strangle me!

61 56 The Democrats are all about helping the little people.


You betcha!

62 The Democrats are all about helping the little people.

Umm? Really???

63 progressoverpeace: but only because someone let them out of their sandbox.

That someone was the Stuarts, when he let the Puritans go to Massachusetts instead of Jamaica.

64 Thanks, Democrats!

65

Which is why they feel the need to point out a black guy that is clean and articulate and doesn't speak in a Negro Dialect.


DINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDING

66

#55

Why the "almost"?  The modern left's whole political ideology is immersed in racism.  They could not even exist without their dependence on racism.  The modern left are proud to go on about their partitioning of the world into "race, class, gender".  The left is pure tribalism and they are fairly effective in forcing the tribalization of society, as a whole - but only because someone let them out of their sandbox, boy.

Thats what I thought you said.

67 The Democrats are all about helping the little people.

Making the little people dependent on the state is a fine, historically-well-founded idea.

68 89.6% literacy?  How about 10.4?

69

 The Left simply lacks deep thinkers like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh to guide them towards right thinking, adjoran.

Well, I wouldn't consider them GREAT thinkers, say in the mold of Augustine of Hippo, but you are certainly correct in that the left lacks anyone capable of matching them. Being smarter than a leftist isn't much of a distinction, though.

70

Which is why they feel the need to point out a black guy that is clean and articulate and doesn't speak in a Negro Dialect.

Posted by: buzzion at May 06, 2010 02:13 AM (oVQFe)

Of course, that's because he was raised in Indonesia - which explains his pathetic English and his seeming unfamiliarity with typical idiomatic expressions and their normal usage.

71 I'd like to take this opportunity to thank Democrats for their social policies.

72 The Democrats believe we're all god's children deserving of love, even Tea Partiers.

I'm sorry if that disturbs you., pp.

73 You know, that's a pretty clever idea. But let it stay as a thought experiment. One of the reasons US law enforcement has had pretty good success in breaking up terror plots since 9/11 is that US Muslims are very willing to drop a dime on the crazies. More willing than they are in most other counties. That being the case, why insult them?

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at May 06, 2010 02:00 AM (4Irul)

I would still like to see the rallies of American Muslims marching en masse to demand an end to Islamic extremist terrorism.

But the people I'm really angry at are the cowards on the Left who pretend to be hip and brave when they mock Jesus but are scared shitless to mock Mohammed.  Parker and Stone are right to continue to pick at this scab on the Left's smug self-congratulation -- Seth MacFarlane, on the other hand, ought to be outed as the gutless wonder he is.

74 The Democrats believe we're all god's children deserving of love, even Tea Partiers.

Which is why they regularly refer to them in pejorative terms, call them Nazis, accuse them of inciting violence, question their true motivations...it's all about the love.

75

The thriving, safe, and vibrant inner city housing projects would like to extend their gratitude to Democratic policies of the last 60 years.

76 The Democrats believe we're all god's children

Democrats hate G-d.  Didn't you get the newsletter?

deserving of love, even Tea Partiers.

I'm sorry if that disturbs you., pp.

Posted by: snapdragon at May 06, 2010 02:16 AM (5Etcj)

Leftist stupidity and self-hate disturbs me.  You are destructive idiots who are nothing but a burden to any society infested with you.

77


The Democrats believe we're all god's children deserving of love


unless you're a "fetus"

78

#68

Sorry, meant to highlight the "boy" part.  Hope the meaning was clear PoP.

79 The Democrats believe we're all god's children deserving of love, even Nazi, racist, teabaggers Tea Partiers.

I'm sorry if that disturbs you., pp.

Posted by: snapdragon at May 06, 2010 02:16 AM (5Etcj)

FTFY.

Sounds more like the Dems actual words, and yes that should disturb a lot of people!

80 The Democrats believe we're all god's children deserving of love, even Tea Partiers. You betcha! I feel the love.

81

heh, I see I posted under my work nic. 

gettin late.  getting drunk.

82 The Democrats are all about helping the little people.

Worked for us!

83 Democrats couldn't give a flying fuck about the "little people". If they did, they'd drop their disastrous social and economic policies. They wouldn't have destroyed areas of high minority population like Detroit. They would support school choice.

Democrats care about creating voting blocks reliant on Democratic power to keep the cash and supplies flowing. That's all. And if you wander off the plantation you're attacked.

Like I said, it's slavery with different branding. Democrats never changed. Now the master is government and the slaves come from all races.

84 Well, America seems pretty happy with the Democrats judging by the last couple of elections.

85 Its interesting the T-shirt vendor, a true scrappy entrepreneur, is the hero, while the Pakistani rich-kid with an MBA makes the car bomb. what's the deal with these rich Muslim kids? like the old "failed in london try hongkong" FILTH are they "family is rich, must do jihad."

86 The Democrats believe we're all god's children deserving of love, even Tea Partiers.

It's so odd that love would sound like sneering and vituperation.

87 Been ignoring the polls lately, haven't you, snapdragon? Naughty, naughty troll!

88

Sorry, meant to highlight the "boy" part.  Hope the meaning was clear PoP.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at May 06, 2010 02:20 AM (8OTio)

It was clear.  I used the Mo Dowd "boy" attachment on an Ace post earlier today.  It never gets old because that is the left's basic tactic for all of their debates.

89 Oh, and have we made sure this t-shirt vendor pays all his taxes, doesn't have any liens, and donated money to Obama?

90 Well, America seems pretty happy with the Democrats judging by the last couple of elections.

Yeah, America is as happy as a pig in a poke!

91

Democrats couldn't give a flying fuck about the "little people".

You gotta be kidding me?

92 @48 I definitely want to buy one but you'll have to toss it up here.. my hands and feet seem to stuck to this big ol' straw man..

93 Well, America seems pretty happy with the Democrats judging by the last couple of elections.

Posted by: snapdragon at May 06, 2010 02:21 AM (5Etcj)

We still part of America? How happy did we seem?

94 Come on, snappy! You can do better than that!

95

#92

I figured you took my meaning.  You are one of the more perceptive morons.

96

at least snapdragon is a modestly engaging troll.  He's not very convincing (nor does he seem to be trying to convince) but he's at least effective at playacting the role of counter-sniper.

To the extent he's serious, let me add that he instantly becomes the most dangerous kind of lefty, a religious one.  All that liberal smugness backed by a utter certainty of their spiritual purity and righteousness.

He seems a bit too cynical for that though.

97 Well, America seems pretty happy with the Democrats judging by the last couple of elections.

Dude, could you please take music lessons or something.

98 The Democrats are all about helping the little people.

The left is really doing great things in Greece.  They only killed three little people.  They wanted to kill 300, so they really saved 297 people from their own hand.  Great people, those leftists.

Leftists: 297 people saved!!  They love the little people!

99 Well, America seems pretty happy with the Democrats judging by the last couple of elections.

Do you mean in blue New Jersey where voters elected a conservative Republican? Or blue Virginia where voters elected a conservative Republican? Or blue Massachusetts where voters elected a conservative Republican to Ted Kennedy's seat?

Democrats are looking at losing one or both chambers of Congress. Obama struggles to keep his approval rating above water. American trust in the federal government is at a record low. Congress has low-double digit approval. Republicans lead on the generic ballot.

Cap-and-trade? Dead. Closing Gitmo? Dead. Card check? Dead. Health care? Wildly unpopular even watered down to the extent it was. And Americans support its repeal.

But no, Democrats won in the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression and when Iraq was going to shit. So Americans must love them years later.

How old are you? Mentally speaking?

100

To the extent he's serious, let me add that he instantly becomes the most dangerous kind of lefty, a religious one.  All that liberal smugness backed by a utter certainty of their spiritual purity and righteousness.

Well, in that case I want to hear his opinion on Dooyeweerd's idea of sphere sovereignty. How about it, Snappy?

101 He seems a bit too cynical for that though.

Yeah, he's just laboring under the "great open-minded Lefty deep thinker" impression that all conservatives must needs be religious zealots, and thus be silenced by Bible quotes.

102 It's nice to see the Right paying attention to Europe again, pop.

103 Or blue Massachusetts where voters elected a conservative Republican to Ted Kennedy's seat? The purple will show up better this fall.

104 O/T but just as blood-boiling:

Five Morgan Hill students sent home for wearing American flag T-shirts
May 5, 2010
By Lindsay Bryant

Five Live Oak High School students' First Amendment rights were challenged this morning when they were asked to leave school because they donned American flag T-shirts on Cinco de Mayo. Officials at the school chose not to comment on the situation, but one student said an official called the T-shirts "incendiary."

"They said we were starting a fight, we were fuel to the fire," said sophomore Matt Dariano.

The Morgan Hill Unified School District issued this statement: "In an attempt to foster a spirit of cultural awareness and maintain a safe and supportive school environment, the Live Oak High School administration took certain actions earlier today. The district does not concur with the Live Oak High School administration's interpretation of either board or district policy related to these actions."

The five teens were sitting at a table outside during their brunch break about 10:10 a.m. when Assistant Principal Miguel Rodriguez asked two boys to take off their American flag bandannas. The boys said they complied. In the same conversation, sophomore Dominic Maciel said, Rodriguez told the group to "walk with him to the office."

Dariano called his mother Diana, who spread the word to the other parents, who all arrived soon after to have a conference with Rodriguez and Principal Nick Boden. The group said they were not instigating anything and did what they always do at break - sit and talk and eat.

The boys were told they must turn their T-shirts inside-out or be sent home - and that it would not be considered a suspension - but that Rodriguez did not want any fights to break out among Mexican-American students and those wearing American flags. Dariano said other students were wearing American flags but since they were a group of five "we were the easiest target to cause trouble" according to Rodriguez, he said.

The boys told Rodriguez and Boden that turning their T-shirts inside-out was disrespectful, so their parents opted to take them home.

"I just couldn't believe it," said Dominic's mother Julie Fagerstrom. "I'm an open-minded parent, but it's got to be on both sides. It can't be five kids singled out."

A front-desk secretary said Boden was unavailable for any comment on what had happened Wednesday and Rodriguez was busy with testing, the secretary said.

More than 100 students were spotted wearing red, white and green as they were leaving school. Some had the Mexican flag painted on their faces or on their arms.

Nothing in Live Oak's dress code policy addresses what transpired Wednesday, but it does state that "the school has the right to request that any student dressing inappropriately for school will change into other clothes, be sent home to change, and/or be subject to disciplinary action."

One Mexican-American student, freshman Laura Ponce, had a Mexican flag painted on her face and chest, peaking out of her low-cut shirt. She did it because, "it's our day, the only day we can show our spirit." A school administrator took away the Mexican flag she was carrying as she was waiting to go home. Ponce said: "not cool."

"There was a lot of drama going on today," Ponce said. Some were saying "Mexico sucks" while Mexican-American students responded in their second language.

"Some were yelling Spanish to us," Maciel said, who is half-Hispanic. "I couldn't understand it, but it sounded bad."

Some Mexican-American students said that their flags were taken away or asked to be put away, but none were sent home for wearing red, white and green. Since Boden would not comment, it's uncertain if any other students were sent home for what they were wearing on Cinco de Mayo.

Live Oak High School even hosted a group of professional baile folklorico dancers, who waved flags and played traditional music from Mexico.

"It's sad it's come to this," Fagerstrom said. "But we stand behind their patriotic nature and the boys expressing their individuality."

The boys wrote a two-paragraph statement that they each signed detailing their support for American patriotism and that they felt disrespected and discriminated against when their First Amendment rights were discarded Wednesday at school.

"We were not going to start a fight. We wanted to show our pride," Dariano said.

105

Judging by the last several hundred miles, this ship will sail FOREVER

106 Ooh! It's California, where Boxer is at risk of losing her Senate seat. Or Illinois where Democrats are at risk of losing Obama's old seat. Or Delaware where Democrats are at risk of losing the seat. Or Arkansas where Democrats are likely to lose the seat. Or Indiana where Democrats are likely to lose the seat. Or Nevada where Democrats are likely to lose their seat.

Everywhere Americans are screaming, "We love Democrats!"

107 I definitely want to buy one but you'll have to toss it up here.. my hands and feet seem to stuck to this big ol' straw man..

Posted by: Tu Quoque at May 06, 2010 02:24 AM (aaphP)

The post @ 39 was a gucci(?) spammer. Must have gotten deleted. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Here's a shirt on the house *hands you a Obama = One Big Ass Mistake America tee*

108 @49 [...]if you actually believe in the faith, you would not use it for cheap political point scoring on a blog. Christ was not advancing a political agenda there. And to make Christianity a political faith (a la Islam) political is how we ended up with the Papal States/inquisition/war of roses/later crusades/hundred years war, etc. Posted by: hobgoblin at May 06, 2010 02:09 AM (PpeVF) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ absolutely right

109

 It's nice to see the Right paying attention to Europe again, pop.

You will never be promoted to Troll, 3rd Class if you don't apply yourself.

110

#110

Banned.  Please buy a fruit cup though.  (Strawberries always abundant)

111

#111

Excellent.

112 It's nice to see the Right paying attention to Europe again, pop. We never stopped paying attention. It helps us to avoid Europe's many mistakes.

113

He does seem to be running out of steam.

Why do the trolls always go full retard or slink away after a few hours?

114 It's nice to see the Right paying attention to Europe again, pop.

Posted by: snapdragon at May 06, 2010 02:29 AM (5Etcj)

Huh?  Who is the ineligible git in the White House who has been shitting all over Europe for the past year and a half?  A rightie?

Europe is news because the left has turned it into such a unstable shithole that it is going to blow and take many down with it.  Of course, this was after the left had worked their magic on the US and brought us the credit crisis, which they are now working into a nation-killng relapse.  All I can say is that, when this all goes, you people had better have good hiding places.

115 "We always pay attention to Europe you nitwit. "

I meant besides predicting the Muslims will soon be taking it over for the past 8 years, silly.

116 So is, “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.”

Posted by: snapdragon at May 06, 2010 01:58 AM (5Etcj)

Hahahahahahahaha! Quoting Jesus when He admonished His flock to get up off their dead butts and do for themselves is hardly a way to defend the welfare state!  But I guess that's indicative of the shallowness of Leftist ideology that they would think Jesus was telling His followers that God wanted them to become lazy and dependent.

117 It's nice to see the Right paying attention to Europe again, pop.

It'd be even nicer if the Left would pay attention to Europe to see where their policies will inevitably lead them.

How many civilians are YOU prepared to kill by tossing a Molotov cocktail into a bank, snapdragon?

118 He does seem to be running out of steam.

Why do the trolls always go full retard or slink away after a few hours?

Posted by: hobgoblin at May 06, 2010 02:34 AM (PpeVF)

Do moonbats ever put in a hard days work?

119 Posted by: buzzion at May 06, 2010 02:33 AM Sorry, buzzion, didn't hear you call that one.

120 OK. A little better. Maybe you will make Troll 3rd Class, if you continue to work hard.

121

stuiec, that story is infuriating.

send home for the AMERICAN flag?

What the goddamned fuck is that bullshit!?!

122 Killing three bank employees = helping the little people, amiright, deep thinker?

123 It's nice to see the Right paying attention to Europe again, pop.

Obama's spent the last 18 months taking a crap all over our European allies. Britain has been demoted to ordinary alliance if that. He scrapped our promised missile shield. He played golf during the Polish president's funeral. He bought the British PM a set of DVDs and the Queen an iPod with his speeches preloaded.

The left has about as much moral authority on European relations as Tiger Woods has on fidelity.

124 Killing three civilians = all about love!

125

The left has about as much moral authority on European relations as Tiger Woods has on fidelity.

Oh, come on, now.  Failure is the best teacher.  Amirite?

126 I only beat you because I love you so much, baby!

127 The Democrats believe we're all god's children deserving of love, even Tea Partiers.

That's right!

128 stuiec, that story is infuriating.

send home for the AMERICAN flag?

What the goddamned fuck is that bullshit!?!

Posted by: hobgoblin at May 06, 2010 02:37 AM (PpeVF)

The TV news report was also illuminating.  They interviewed several Mexican-American students who said that Cinco de Mayo was the only day they had to express their pride and that they felt the other students owed them an apology for disrespecting them by wearing the American flag on THEIR day.  One said (of the American-flag wearers), "We wouldn't do that to them on the Fourth of July."  Which sort of indicates that they don't see themselves as Americans.

129 The Democrats believe we're all god's children deserving of love, even Tea Partiers.

That's right!

Posted by: Conservatives Beat Up by Union Thugs at May 06, 2010 02:41 AM (dSJW9)

You got off, easy.

130

#130

Were you aware that 34 of my 121 affairs were foreign?  I'd say that is a coalition of the willing. 

131 You say when he hits you, you don't mind
Because when he hurts you, you feel alive

132 The Democrats are all about helping the little people.

The fact that you even think about another human being as "little" due to his class or economic station says more about your own arrogance than a hundred million carbon credits to your name.

133 I think I know why Shahzad waited for so long to attack...he hated Bush, but figured Obama would change everything. But then that did not work out.

134

The TV news report was also illuminating.  They interviewed several Mexican-American students who said that Cinco de Mayo was the only day they had to express their pride and that they felt the other students owed them an apology for disrespecting them by wearing the American flag on THEIR day.  One said (of the American-flag wearers), "We wouldn't do that to them on the Fourth of July."  Which sort of indicates that they don't see themselves as Americans.

Posted by: stuiec at May 06, 2010 02:41 AM (W+GYq)

Yep.  These are the same sorts of idiots who carry the sign, "We Didn't Cross The Border, The Border Crossed Us."  Scumbags.

The teachers and administrators who gave the kids shit for wearing American flags should really be fired.  I know it won't happen, but that is a sad indication of how sick our society has gotten (and from which it is likely irretrievable).  Flags carry meaning.

135

138

#130

Were you aware that 34 of my 121 affairs were foreign?  I'd say that is a coalition of the willing. 

Posted by: Kitten Woods


Don't forget Poland

136

#140

Dude, you might be 4'9" but you weigh 250.  Whachu talkin about bein a jockey willis?

137 The Democrats are all about helping the little people.

Hey... no, no, not up there, down here... they are good to us!

138

#145

F#ck off dickmunch.  Butt yeah, you have a point a##holes.

139 The Democrats are all about helping the little people.

Hey... no, no, not up there, down here... they are good to us!

Posted by: Robert Reich, Donna Shalalalala, Henry Waxman, Diane Feinstein at May 06, 2010 02:47 AM (uv+PN)

We love the Democrats
'Cause they are good to us

140 C'mon, snapdragon. It's not a difficult question for a deep thinker. How many little people do you feel require immolating to preserve public sector pensions?

You could give the show a hip snappy ethnic name like auto de fe!

141

142

Supportive of little people and those with hooks!

143 Man, we had WAY better trolls here before that low-thirties ranking shit.

144 @113 favorite new shirt.. thankin ya

145 Man, we had WAY better trolls here before that low-thirties ranking shit.

Yeah, why doesn't Axeldouche send in the A-Team with the Chomsky and Klein quotes?

We can handle it, Dave!

146 Hey snapdragon,

just to get an idea of where you leftists think you're going, could you tell us the great leftist nation that you folks think you are going to model?  After all, no one in history lives up to your "standards", I'm at a loss as to who you think had the right idea and the nation that grew from that.

BTW, a little quiz for the "little people lover".  What do you think of JFK's nationally televised threat to incinerate tens of millions of men, women, children and pets in the USSR if Cuba lobbed a nuke at French Buyana?  Was he a war criminal for trying to terrorize the whole of the Soviet civilian population?

"Third: It shall be the policy of this Nation to regard any nuclear missile launched from Cuba against any nation in the Western Hemisphere as an attack by the Soviet Union on the United States, requiring a full retaliatory response upon the Soviet Union."

Do you condone these sorts of threats, for attacking countries other than the US, or do you think JFK was a bad person who should have been jailed for issuing that threat?

147 #5 Your suspicion is correct; I'm just a little surprised you missed that it was confirmed last year when Politico reported on JournoList. Google it.

148 Man, we had WAY better trolls here before that low-thirties ranking shit.

Posted by: Filly at May 06, 2010 02:56 AM (dSJW9)

Sorry, lil snappy was getting too rowdy down there in the basement. I had to turn off his interwebs and get him into his feety pajamas so he could get to bed.

_{(and yes, his pj's have a back hatch too!)}

149 Well, America seems pretty happy with the Democrats judging by the last couple of elections.

Posted by: snapdragon at May 06, 2010 02:21 AM (5Etcj)

Feelin' the love!

150

#157

You know it.

151

Well, America seems pretty happy with the Democrats judging by the last couple of elections


I wonder if this is really what dems think. 

I know it's what they project, but deep down, honestly with themselves, I gotta think they know how reviled they are.  Otherwise, why run as a "moderate" to get elected, only to tack so far left after the election that you're unrecognizable?

You gotta wonder what the souls of such people look like after so many years of self-delusion

152 Well, America seems pretty happy with the Democrats judging by the last couple of elections.

_{*Looking over her shoulder, sweat pouring off brow*}
Yeah, nothin' to worry about. Were all safe. Especially me, here in Cali.

153

#157

You know it.

Posted by: Evan (moderate...and gun tottin!) Bayh at May 06, 2010 03:15 AM (8OTio)

It's washing over me like a tidal wave, baby!

154

I do SO totally know what you mean.  It's gonna be a banner year for Dems, just like 2008!

155 Bart and Brian ain't got nothin on me. Fo' Real.

156

There's nothing better than to bask in the glow of a grateful and adoring populace.

157 2010 is going to be a banner year. Now that health care has passed (my Daddy's legacy) people are going to reward the Democrat party with permanent super-majorities for generations. The fact that I am abandoning office (to pursue my first loves -- drinking and prescription drugs), leaving the "country without a Kennedy" means nothing at all!

158

I'm just a corrupt asshole.  That's why I'm leaving.

159

Damn, the night I am an insomniac this place is dead...or it could be me and my cyber BO...anyway...guess I'll repeat my Eric Massa sock threat....

 

160

#166

Wanna make a sandwich?

161

I tells ya, if Obama goes to the funeral for Nigerian President Umaru Yar'Adua, I'm going to start putting up signs in my yard about what a douche he is.

162 The Democrats believe we're all god's children deserving of love, even Tea Partiers. That's right, we gave Kenneth Gladney some real good lovin'! Man, he's still feelin' our love!

163

(still pissed over the Poland thing)

164

#171

Dude, chill.  I sent Poland a CD of my greatest speeches.  The Road to the White House Disc One: Iowa to South Carolina.  Trust me, they loved it.

165 The fact that I am abandoning office (to pursue my first loves -- drinking and prescription drugs), leaving the "country without a Kennedy" means nothing at all! ...except for a sharp increase in traffic accidents between Rhode Island & Cape Cod.

166 17 I could talk about that one black guy who shows up at Tea Parties the Tea Partiers always point to in their pictures to prove they're not racists.

But that's nothing like the Muslim vendor in question, is it?

Posted by: snapdragon at May 06, 2010 01:32 AM (5Etcj)

Ah liberal racism at its finest.

167 Ah liberal racism at its finest. Liberal racism?

168 ...or amazed that a woman parked a car correctly.

No way. Pics or it never happened.

169 ...or amazed that a woman parked a car correctly. No way. Pics or it never happened. Give me 40 acres and I'll turn this Smart Car around.

170 hey my wife can park real good. Cooking, ah not so much?

171 hey my wife can park real good. Cooking, ah not so much? Does she have an Adam's apple?

172 Does she have an Adam's apple? Posted by: fluffy at May 06, 2010 06:54 AM (SwkdU) No but a mean left hook?

173 Morning Yall, This ..Agger is off to work for another snark-free day. Been very busy. I know, it's crazy talk.

174 Muslims will kill you if you convert from Islam.

Democrats will turn into belittling angy racists if minorities convert away from their party.  Lynch mobs.  Always lynch mobs.  Colin Powell was called poop for years, Condi was called Bush's sex slave with puffy lips, I won't even bother with Clarence Thomas.

But nothing is worse than every day citizen voter blacks at a conservative rally.  I've never seen Killgore Trout use the N word so much.  These liberals are furious, and must attempt to make these people feel completely ostracized.  Their party famously murdered thousands of white Republicans int heir effort to preserve racial divides, but we all know they killed far more minorities.

No surprise to see a little of that in this thread.  After all, I'm not a whitey.  I bet a lot of commenters here, conservatives, and not white... and we're supposed to get the message that we are not tolerated or acceptable to the democrats.  We are others or whatever the fuck they call victims of stupid taunts and hate.  In reality, we just don't give a shit about race.

---------

Different point, but it's clear to me that this bomber Shahzad was selected for this attack because the superior terrorists were busy dealing with our war in the middle east, or dead from that war.  Thus, that's proof positive that the war on terror is saving American lives.  Even Obama deserves a fair amount of credit for keeping the heat turned up on terrorists in Pakistan and the area.  They just have a hard time overcoming that.  I don't pretend they will always fail, but this is a legit victory in at least one way.

175 "Indeed, that's one of the many reasons I am not a Leftist: my expectations don't change depending on the skin color, politics, or religion of whoever I'm talking about." That will leave a mark.

176 Muslims aren't in favor of bombs if the bombs hurt them.

177 Muslims aren't in favor of bombs if the bombs hurt them. Posted by: Jack at May 06, 2010 07:31 AM (bvDV5) Well I am not so sure about that. Muslims blow up more fellow muslims than anybody else. Actually I think Muslims have taken that phrase "Dr Strangeglove" to heart and learned to love the bomb.

178 He did only what any good servant of Allah would do.  We're always doing benevolent acts like that in fact - like that time we invented the zero and shared it with the rest of the world.  And then there was that time we hunted Jewish people for 1300 years.  Things like that.

179 According to this article, it was high school kids alerting the vendor.
http://tinyurl.com/2b4mo5c

180 Looks like Obama's new hope and change attitude towards Islam isn't working so well.  From news reports this morning:

The investigation has found nothing to indicate that Shahzad had any long-standing grudge or anger toward the United States, the official said.

"What we know is, the dynamic appeared to have changed in the last year," the official said.

181 The Democrats are all about helping the little people.

Posted by: snapdragon at May 06, 2010 02:10 AM (5Etcj)

 

Just the fact that you refer to fellow citizens as "the little people" indicates that democrats see themselves as "better" than others. How does that square with the equality meme that you push?

182

Trying despertely not to see what is in front of them.  Trying desperately to maintain their belief that the non-West, non-American is all good and the West, the American is all evil.

So the bomber had to be a white male; so they have to hype the religion of the street vendor.

183 Niasse acted stupidly.

184

"Let me translate: the Left really want the legacy media to congratulate a member of the Muslim community because despite his faith he didn't simply stand around and let a carbomb kill people. Really, that's the story these Lefty bloggers are pushing. Otherwise there's no point in bringing up his religion. And they say that we're the ones with a repugnant view of Islam..."

Another fucking idiot.  The left is talking about this not because he did a good thing despite his faith.  The left is showing that there are good Muslims as well as bad Muslims.  The only thing that gets press is the small percentage of Muslims who conduct or support terrorism.  The huge majority who are good, peaceful people are ignored.  This goes triple for right-wing nuts like you guys who believe that Islam is inherently violent, murderous, etc.  And before one of you loons tries to quote something in the Koran that is violent, you have to realize that there is just as much horrible violence and intolerance in the Holy Bible.  Those very old books are full of all kinds of things: love, peace, hate, anger, tolerance, intolerance, violence, passivity and much more.  Through the years, many people have used parts of the Bible and the Koran to support hateful, violent ends.  It doesn't mean that Christianity or Islam is inherently evil or violent.

Knowledge is a good thing.  Read.  And don't just read right-wing whacky bullshit.

185 idk, i think if he was an atheist it would have gotten a mention

186 erg so preachy this morning.

187 Eh. Do you live in a big city Gabe? Not asking that to be obnoxious- but people do tend to just walk by shit all the time & not get involved. This guy did and that's a good thing, and by definition the whole situation was out of the ordinary.

188

Posted by: Sally Ann Cavanaugh at May 06, 2010 08:28 AM (FRErk)

 

 

You are right, how can we ignore the muslim protests against terrorism that happen every day. The silence is deafening.

189 Knowledge is a good thing.  Read.  And don't just read right-wing whacky bullshit.

Agreed.  Let's start by focusing upon the proper spelling of 'wacky' and appropriate use of conjunctions.  We shall follow it up with your assumption that folks here only read "right-wing whacky bullshit", which is evidently false since we're discussing what non-right-wing blogs and media sites are pushing.

190
When asked if he was proud of what he did, Mr Niasse said, of course I'm a VETERAN.

Not a Muslim.

Not an immigrant.

A VETERAN.

191 if two wrongs don't make a right......can a right cancel out a wrong? i'm glad the good muslim beat the bad muslim

192

Actually, I think this is a case where the left wing moonbats are right, but for the wrong reason.

The fact is, we are currently at war with the adherents of what I believe are best described as Islamic fascists. Part of their objective for victory -- a huge part, in fact -- is to claim the mantle of all muslims. You know, strength in number and all that. We, in turn, should be doing everything we can to isolate the fascists from the rest of the muslim population. Heaping praise on this Niasse fellow, even excessive praise, doesn't hurt and might even help our ultimate war objectives.

193 My new shirt: 'I came to NYC to bomb Times Square and all I got was this Orange jump suit!'

194 No links for idiots, but the short version is that some Lefties are upset that the legacy media is not giving enough attention to Aliou Niasse, the t-shirt vendor who first alerted the NYPD to the Times Square carbomb.

Note that the lefty assholes are being disingenuous on this. (normal).  The Muslim t-shirt vendor did NOT report a car bomb.  He reported smoke coming out of the car i.e. a fire in the car.  The responding cop noted the actual bomb.

The question is if the t-shirt vendor knew it a was a Muslim terrorist bomb, would he still have reported it?

195 127

stuiec, that story is infuriating.

send home for the AMERICAN flag?

What the goddamned fuck is that bullshit!?!

Posted by: hobgoblin at May 06, 2010 02:37 AM (PpeVF

email the pricks

196

You are right, how can we ignore the muslim protests against terrorism that happen every day. The silence is deafening.

Posted by: TC at May 06, 2010 08:36 AM (DYJjQ)

Exactly.  Most muzzies may not be terrorists, but most are sympathizers.  There's nothing going on that they really disagree with.  Too many Americans forget that.  It is due, in part, to the fact that we are largely insulated from the news of what the muslims do to their fellow man every damn day.  Every person in the US should click over to religionofpeace.com every morning for their daily dose of reality. 

197 I saw this guy give an interview on FOX and I could have sworn he said he saw the car running and noticed the keys still in the ignition so he walked over to the car to look further.  It was at that point that a police officer came over and asked him if it was his car.  Then the firecrackers went off, so the officer started to move people away from the car.  So he didn't actually go and find an officer...the officer came over to him as he was looking in the car.

Do I have that wrong?

198

He's a t-shirt vendor in Times Square and Times Square was under attack.

 

I dont think he felt it was an attack or that it was even a car bomb. He saw a car smoking and probably thought "fire" and he found a cop. He did what what the vast majority of people would do in that situation. Nothing more, nothing less.

199

Knowledge is a good thing.  Read.  And don't just read right-wing whacky bullshit.

Posted by: Sally Ann Cavanaugh at May 06, 2010 08:28 AM (FRErk)

Sally you ignorant scrunt.

200

Personally, I'm still amazed at Mayor Bloomberg's incredibly astute observation that the would-be Times Square Bomber must have been motivated by healthcare reform. 

Who knew the Taliban were so upset over Obamacare?

 

Why, New York's Billionaire Mayor, THAT'S who!!!  T<i>This is what Rule by Intellectual Elites is all about, Folks!</i>

201 @207 I don't think it's fair to say he wouldn't have.

Did I say he wouldn't have? I asked the question, would he have.

202 112 Ooh! It's California, where Boxer is at risk of losing her Senate seat. Or Illinois where Democrats are at risk of losing Obama's old seat. Or Delaware where Democrats are at risk of losing the seat. Or Arkansas where Democrats are likely to lose the seat. Or Indiana where Democrats are likely to lose the seat. Or Nevada where Democrats are likely to lose their seat.

Everywhere Americans are screaming, "We love Democrats!"

Posted by: Benson at May 06, 2010 02:30 AM (qzcNU)

Oooooh I don't think so ..... (files fingernails)

203 This goes triple for right-wing nuts like you guys who believe that Islam is inherently violent, murderous, etc.

yeah, it just pisses me off when evil Christians strap bombs to themselves and blow up civvies, and fly jets into buildings full of men, women, and children.

204

"Knowledge is a good thing.  Read.  And don't just read right-wing whacky bullshit."

- Sally Ann Cavanaugh

 

Sally, I SO agree with you.  Why, if Janet Napolitano wasn't as well-read and knowledgeable as she is, she might actually lose sight of the fact that the REAL hotspot of anti-American terrorism is in fact the American Midwest!  After all, all those thousands of Christianist Militia Members out there are just itching to kill federal agents.

 

Oh, wait... actually, there were only 9 members of a group calling itself by some weird non-Christian name no one ever heard of, and it's not at all clear what is "Chrisitan" about them.  And they apparantly never did much beyond talk a line of BS when they thought no one was listening... And the people around the world that routinely riot at Global Warming and Economic Globalization conferences are invariably Lefties... I keep forgetting.  And the only people shooting at federal agents are illegal aliens cheered on by Lefties when Lefties take time out from rioting over efforts to stop the Mexican Drug War from spilling over the southern border into Arizona. 

 

Why ARE Pasty White Priviliged Liberals so incredibly violence prone, Sally??  Have all your readings given you any elite insight into that issue????

 

205 Miss me yet?

206 The only thing that gets press is the small percentage of Muslims who conduct or support terrorism.

Okay, let's say it's only 10 percent. That means over 100 MILLION Muslims  conduct or support terrorism.

That's sure seems like a lot of Muslims.

207 I think I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen ANY kind of harsh words for muslim terrorism, from muslims.

Where are the anti terrorism marches? Where are the muslims clamoring for face time in front of national cameras to repudiate the terrorists in their midsts?

Instead what do we see? CAIR and their supporters telling us that we can't be upset with Islam in any form. Can't point out that elephant in their room.

Unless and until I start seeing a hell of a lot more muslims publicly denouncing this shit, they, and their entire religion of peace can go fuck itself

208 Gabe weren't all of those Tee shirt vendors cashing in by selling Obama shirts ? As far as all of the newspapers reporting this I just read it in the last 12 hours. And why do we never hear about the political affiliations of these "heros" do they support Obama ? do they secretly support the Red Sox ? Are these the type of facts that only th eNation Enquirer will dare report ?

209

The only thing that gets press is the small percentatge of Muslims who conduct or support terrorism.

 

You know, that is SO true! 

 

There's hardly ever a peep in the press about Muslims in our own country snipping off young girl's clitorises and sewing their vaginas shut.  Not much discussion at all of so-called "Honor Killings" by Angry Middle Aged Swarthy Muslim Men of their own daughters.  The National Organization of Women never speaks out about the treatment of Muslim women in places like Saudi Arabia, and has yet to honor George W. Bush for all he's done for the women of Afghanistan.

 

But, at least you Barking Moonbat Leftist Mental Deficients speak out against acknowledging we are locked in a global struggle with Muslim extremists.  Great job, champs.

210 This goes triple for right-wing nuts like you guys who believe that Islam is inherently violent, murderous, etc. 
Posted by: Sally Ann Cavanaugh


We should drop Sally Ann in Tehran, wearing typical American women's clothing, so she can report firsthand on how beautiful and non-violent (and respectful of women!) Islam is.

211

I can't think of a single Muslim country little Sally would care to live in.

 

Sally, would you be a dear and name one?

212 1 I'm so alone.

Posted by: Hillary Rodham Clinton at May 06, 2010 01:01 AM (E5V01)

Huma dump ya?

213 221 The only thing that gets press is the small percentage of Muslims who conduct or support terrorism.

Okay, let's say it's only 10 percent. That means over 100 MILLION Muslims  conduct or support terrorism.

That's sure seems like a lot of Muslims.

Posted by: Mal at May 06, 2010 09:06 AM (Z+qzA)

100 million is NOT a lot of anything.

214 Hey, at least Sally Ann stuck around and defended the steaming pile of peanut filled shit she dropped here!!!

You go girl!!!  Good effort.

215

On Cinco de Mayo, I felch an extra 20-30 illegals just so they feel more welcome. I am a true American. 

216

Anyone remember when Nick Berg got beheaded and that video was all over the internet?  I was just learning about Islam back then and I posted it at the message board I hung out in.  The board was full of liberals.

I posted it in the morning and then came back after work.  There were over 100 replies so I started with the usual suspect libs and started reading their replies.  It was obvious that the memo had gotten out and the prevailing liberal theory was that Berg was dead on the tape before the beheading took place.  That meant that the video was a fake and was proof that the CIA did it to make Muslims look bad.

So I read most of the replies and then I picked the biggest liberal fool on the board to reply to myself.  Here's what I wrote back to this idiot:

"Let me get this straight.  You're saying that Berg was dead first.  And because he was dead first that is proof, to you, that the tape was faked by the CIA in an attempt to  make it appear to be the work of Muslims.  So in other words, in your opinion, only a Muslim would behead a live man?  Gee, even I don't have that poor opinion of Muslims" 

There is nothing more pathetic than a liberal caught trying to dig themselves out of their holes of logic.

217

On Cinco de Mayo, I felch an extra 20-30 illegals just so they feel more welcome. I am a true American. 

Posted by: snapdragon at May 06, 2010 09:51 AM (90oki)

 

"felch"? "felch"?? "felch"???

 

Yup, your corruption of the English language makes you a typical American alright, and it appears that you are a public school graduate, too.

218

On Cinco de Mayo, I felch an extra 20-30 illegals just so they feel more welcome. I am a true American. 

 

I thought you could only do that with hamsters.

219 The short story is Niasse isn't the tee shirt vendor, that's Orten.  And then there's Jackson who sells handbags.  Both are Black.  Both are Vietnam Vets.  Both have appeared on TV news shows.  Both have gotten calls from Obama.  I don't know what Jackson did.  Orten was the one who notified the mounted office.   Niasse claims he was on the phone to 911 when he told Orten about it.  Niasse hasn't received a call from Obama or been on TV shows

220 Okay for some reason my tiny url link to Gawker wouldn't post.  http://tinyurl.com/38npnm8

221 "Finally, you don't get bonus points for doing the right thing."
 
I don't know, common sense is in short supply these days,  Maybe he's deserving a gold star on his forehead for thinking straight at least.

Posted by: Robert

Maybe Niasse called the authorities hoping it would create a crowd that he could hawk his T-shirts to.  Capitalism at it's best.

222 "The Democrats believe we're all god's children deserving of love unless you're a fetus" Yes!!! I've had this "discussion" with my lefty sister often. At which time she deems me stoopid and leaves the room. Thats the way it works with most of the crowd from the left. If you disagree then you are wrong.

223 HA!

224 More on the continuing saga of the street vendors.  Looks like Niasse never really contacted anyone other than another street vendor. 

"Aliou Niasse, a street vendor selling framed photographs of New York, said that he was the first to spot the car containing the bomb, which pulled up right in front of his cart on the corner of 45th street and Broadway next to the Marriott hotel.

“I didn’t see the car pull up or notice the driver because I was busy with customers. But when I looked up I saw that smoke appeared to be coming from the car. This would have been around 6.30pm.

“I thought I should call 911, but my English is not very good and I had no credit left on my phone, so I walked over to Lance, who has the T-shirt stall next to mine, and told him. He said we shouldnÂ’t call 911. Immediately he alerted a police officer near by,” said Mr Niasse, who is originally from Senegal and who has been a vendor in Times Square for about eight years. "  http://tinyurl.com/334h8hc

225 Third, this idea relies on the logical impossibility that Niasse knew he was helping stop Muslim terrorism. There's no way he could have known that.

I thought it was racist teabaggers coming to kill me because I'm brown

226 'Finally, you don't get bonus points for doing the right thing. ' Yes you do and you do get extra bonus points for being a Muslim who doesn't want to see Americans burn. The left is right on this one. Not because stupid rednecks should be forced to see a peaceful Muslim but because we should hold any good Muslim act up as an excample to other Muslims.

227 Muslims are not the problem. Islam is the problem.

228 'Finally, you don't get bonus points for doing the right thing. '

Yes you do and you do get extra bonus points for being a Muslim who doesn't want to see Americans burn. The left is right on this one. Not because stupid rednecks should be forced to see a peaceful Muslim but because we should hold any good Muslim act up as an excample (sic) to other Muslims.

_{Posted by: kidney at May 06, 2010 12:47 PM (pR82w)}

That's really pathetic. The poor ignorant Muslims don't know how to act unless we magnanimous elite show them the way? As opposed to insulting us stupid rednecks who built this country and obey the laws and want to keep it safe for our kids? D@mn, every day is opposite day...

229 He was saving his own skin,plain and simple.Wouldn't you? If he truly is a Muslim,he is preparing for his own personal jihad against the infidels.It wasn't his time yet.

230 " Not because stupid rednecks should be forced to see a peaceful Muslim but because we should hold any good Muslim act up as an excample to other Muslims.

_{Posted by: kidney at May 06, 2010 12:47 PM (pR82w)}

That's really pathetic. The poor ignorant Muslims don't know how to act unless we magnanimous elite show them the way"

If you really think average Joe muslims wouldn't do the basic civil duty of reporting a bomb, indeed it's a good idea to hold up the miraculous decent Muslim example up.  For those of us who aren't under that impression that all Muslims are subhuman, this makes no sense.  But some people really have a fundamental lack of respect for these folks.  The argument is completely rational if you rely on that premise.

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