The moderators posted all those last minute articles just to throw everybody off the ONT trail!

The RAF pilots story is a great tribute. They covered some related stories in the TV series Foyle's War, which was great to see. The show even managed to get an old Spit.

Posted by: fluffy, Breitbart reader at September 20, 2010 09:56 PM (SwkdU)

We need more stimulus spending. 

You know, I had the same dream. Weird.

The English are ok but their health care system sucks compared to Cuba's.

The English are ok but their health care system sucks compared to Cuba's.

Posted by: michael moore at September 20, 2010 10:00 PM (1UEyn)

Hmm, so I guess the Scottish don't get include in the same attack of the British National Health Service because they have deep fried Twinkies?

The RAF pilots story is a great tribute. They covered some related stories in the TV series Foyle's War, which was great to see. The show even managed to get an old Spit.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at September 20, 2010 09:59 PM (Yq+qN)

Went to the "Battle of Britain" weekend at the American Airpower Museum at Republic Field, LI. They had Spitfires, Lancasters and Hap Arnold's B-25. Excellent show with flyovers.

I also like to point out that the US Navy held of the Imperial Japanese Fleet with just over 200 aviators.

Or maybe Pakistan north.

 He was naked, but strategically covered himself with a big bag of potato chips. He ripped open the bag and started feeding me chips. Chip after chip, until I almost choked.

What could it mean?

Were you drinking a Juicy Juice?  (Sorry Kratos, I couldn't resist!)

Hmm, so I guess the Scottish don't get include in the same attack of the British National Health Service because they have deep fried Twinkies?

Well the Scots that started McDonalds do because as we all know the McDonalds restaurant located 2 blocks from ground zero killed more people than the 9/11 terrorists.

I guess I'll include all of Scotland in that comment (I was trying not to irriate Sean Connery)  - so their health care sucks but I think they have great dentists!

It's what the UK tax collection agency, the HMRC, is proposing:

Posted by: gus at September 20, 2010 10:04 PM (C02p4)

One of the odd think I noticed last night is that Britain is 3% Muslim and 1.4% Pakistani. India makes up another 1.7%. But India is overwhelmingly Hindu.

Besides "Prince" Charles are there a lot of religious conversions going on?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at September 20, 2010 10:06 PM (yfJ6g)

Yes...it was a...software error. That's it.

 The UK is Pakistan east.

You mean Pokey-Stan?  I'm all (R)ears!

You know, I had the same dream. Weird.

Posted by: Barack Obama at September 20, 2010 10:00 PM (bgcml)

You... you bastard!!!*runs off sobbing*

Good to know the UK has the same obesity problem we have...

I am always offended at the accusation that Americans are more unhealthy, etc, than other nations.  We weren't the ones who introduced deep fried Mars bars to the world.

D'you think they'd go for beads? Or gunpowder weapons and whiskey?

Powdered Lace Wigs!

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at September 20, 2010 10:09 PM (gofDd)

Most of the Lebanese I run into are Christians, or occasionally Druze. Islam is doing to Lebanon what the MSM accuses Jews of doing in Israel...

Oh, and I think the moronettes will all agree that female footwear has come a long way since that last pic was snapped.  Which is a very good thing.

True dat, Peaches!  Those "sensible shoes" give a whole new depth to the word ugly.  I just bought a couple of pairs of really cute shoes online the other day.  I can't wait for them to come!

One of the odd think I noticed last night is that Britain is 3% Muslim and 1.4% Pakistani. India makes up another 1.7%. But India is overwhelmingly Hindu

Is that all - seems kind of low.  I've got family in Huddersfield and last time we were there (4 years ago) it was noticably more muslim.  My cousins used to call us "pakis" when our grandmother would show them photos of their american cousins. 

Britain would benefit from another Lady Godiva ride.  But who could do it?

*Ahem.* I'm half Brit.  I'd give it a shot.  Give me about 10 years though.  I have short hair.

Britain would benefit from another Lady Godiva ride.  But who could do it?

Pray to Gaia that Camilla doesn't saddle up.  She might be forced off the horse and made to carry some hot chick on her back.

Pray to Gaia that Camilla doesn't saddle up.  She might be forced off the horse and made to carry some hot chick on her back.

Posted by: runningrn at September 20, 2010 10:14 PM (8GYOu)

I say NEIGH

Besides "Prince" Charles are there a lot of religious conversions going on?

It's more PC multiculturalism than anything. What interesting (in London at least) is that each of these "Asian" groups have their own communities within the general population. Sometimes they mix with regards to shops and things, & other times they don't.  

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at September 20, 2010 10:15 PM (gofDd)

--Where would you put it?

Britain would benefit from another Lady Godiva ride.  But who could do it?

Pray to Gaia that Camilla doesn't saddle up.  She might be forced off the horse and made to carry some hot chick on her back.

Posted by: runningrn at September 20, 2010 10:14 PM (8GYOu)

FIFY

Posted by: Secundus at September 20, 2010 10:06 PM (4BIQj)

The way things are going there, I'd suggest toilet paper.  Once they have sharia there, TP will be moved aside in favor of the long fingernail.  Of the left hand.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 20, 2010 10:14 PM (c0A3e)

--Have you just watched Harry Brown too?

Accents: I prefer RP/the Queen's English followed by Welsh, Scottish, Irish, and Estuary English.

_{/Link to RP is an old English actor.}

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at September 20, 2010 10:19 PM (cxGtL)

--That may be so, but "he" when referring to the Judeo-Christian god does not need to be capitalized.

we were excited to be in a place where we wouldn't have to use our "Quick Phrases" book

I lived in Ireland as a student in the late 1980s.  We lived with families and roommat and I were irritatd that a bus strike would be impacting our plans to meet friends in Dublin.  The mom of the family basically told us it would be no big deal to walk the 6 miles to the City Centre because "with a bit of crack it isn't a bad walk."  So, first of all she was telling us, american college students to WALK ??? and where the hell would we get this crack anyway - WTF?

So of course craic was what she meant and it means fun, conversation, talking with friends.  We still felt the 6 miles would not fly by so we took a cab.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at September 20, 2010 10:21 PM (gofDd)

--Then you'd need to to grow your hair a little longer.

If Rum is up for this, I'll chip in to her buy her the horse.

Posted by: Editor at September 20, 2010 10:16 PM (YX6i/)

Nice find.  The girl and the employees got a good laugh, as did I.

At least according to family records I'm related to the actual Lady Godiva on my mother's side. But I think I'll defer to the ladies

Laddie Godiva?

One example was that we asked for an extra napkin at breakfast where we were staying and the young male server informed us, barely suppressing his disdain, that we meant 'serviette.' 

Back in college, we had an African student (white dude) who gave all us low-class Americans grammar lessons like this (serviette, ash-can, etc).  Nobody paid much attention to him.  "Dude, this is America."

BTW, "napkin", I believe, is a baby's diaper.  I think.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 20, 2010 10:19 PM (bgcml)

Then they durned sure wouldn't be able to tell the difference between South Tx, East, N Central, or West Tx.

Posted by: The Left at September 20, 2010 10:23 PM (bgcml)

LOL!  Full of epic win!

Damn! Talk about some home guard...check these women out:

http://tiny.cc/jiwfq

Then they durned sure wouldn't be able to tell the difference between South Tx, East, N Central, or West Tx.

Posted by: Bikermailman at September 20, 2010 10:26 PM (O8DtP)

Hey, I know Mexican real good!

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at September 20, 2010 10:15 PM (gofDd)

Please, please use me... any. way. you. want!

_{(I've grown kinda tired of men in "kilts")}

Posted by: Gran at September 20, 2010 10:25 PM (kmmbv)

--Most versions of the Bible do not capitalize that pronoun.

BTW, "napkin", I believe, is a baby's diaper.  I think.

Yeah - nappie for short.  They call pacifiers "dummies" - which is what my family calls them.

My kids have word books from the UK and get confused - courgette=zucchini, ladybird=ladbybug others I can't recall and I have to tell them not to listen when granny sings the alphabet song because she says "zed" for Z!

Anyone know/remember what a snicket is?  I think it means shortcut but not sure.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at September 20, 2010 10:26 PM (gofDd)

So, what do the Belgians call French Fries?

Then they durned sure wouldn't be able to tell the difference between South Tx, East, N Central, or West Tx.

Well I don't speak Austrian so it would be hard for me to tell the difference.

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at September 20, 2010 10:29 PM (PWj+

He's so ronerry.

111 Anyone know/remember what a snicket is?  I think it means shortcut but not sure.

Yes. "Partially vegetated alleyway or cut through in the north of England, usually with bollards at both ends and is poorly lit."

NKorea to name new leader. Kim Ill is down, Kim Ill is down

MATT DAMON!

#131  Yes. "Partially vegetated alleyway or cut through in the north of England, usually with bollards at both ends and is poorly lit."

Thanks! - it's all coming back to me now!  Spent some fun weeks in Huddersfield every summer as a kid and we used to run from uncles to uncles using the shortcuts.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 20, 2010 10:39 PM (EHI/u)

Don't forget the sleeper, Madelaine Albright.

hi all

aww that gold extraction method is no fun

it's not real chemistry unless there's boiling aqua regia

Damn sock.  I blame runningrn and her Juicy Juice juju. 

Bwhahahaha!  It's my JuJu-Fu!

Posted by: logprof at September 20, 2010 10:36 PM (BP6Z1)

These stories break my heart. Young man with everything to live for deciding to end it all. Prayers to the family

The short list is down to his youngest son, his pet mule and Clark Gable. The suspense is killing me.

And two of those three are likely to do less damage...

At least the commonwealth countries serve malt vinegar with their chips.  Here, we are stuck with ketchup.

You are forgetting chili, cheese, bbq sauce, a Wendy's Frosty, ranch dressing....?

113 At the UK section of Epcot there's this little game.

I feel I should know "egg plant', but my mind is drawing a blank. It's something French...

Posted by: K~Bob at September 20, 2010 10:39 PM (9b6FB)

--I went to a restaurant in Regina (of all places) that was beer-themed.  They did not brew their own (although they had a good selection) but the theme was that every food item (except for desserts) has beer in them.  In lieu of ketchup they served mayonnaise infused with stout.  It was pretty good with fries.

If I can't get malt vinegar I use ranch dressing.

...

freak.

Posted by: CDR M at September 20, 2010 10:42 PM (5I8G0)

CDR M ftw!

Posted by: TheresaD at September 20, 2010 10:38 PM (K9XK2)

Remember Kids, you can't spell Murky without the Y - vote for Murkowsky in 2010!

Indeed. A friend turned me on to Foyle's War. I've almost made it through the whole series (2 episodes left; the war's over now).

Foyle's War is really good.  We are also enjoying "Inspector Lewis" now. 

Posted by: CDR M at September 20, 2010 10:42 PM (5I8G0)

And the winner, with the most points in the swimsuit competition is Madeleine Albright

freak.

Posted by: Alex at September 20, 2010 10:45 PM (K9+WM)

You say this as if it's a bad thing?

American Diner near me has vinegar on all the tables - you have to ask for ketchup.

Speaking of ... what is the difference between Catsup and Ketchup?

Real people from the countries they represent. Epcot is supposed to be educational. *don't hit me*

The two fair young blondies in one of the German shops gave quite the educational visual experience to my young son and me on our last WDW visit. 

Posted by: CDR M at September 20, 2010 10:42 PM (5I8G0)

CDR M ftw!

MEGA DITTOS!!111111!!11111

Posted by: K~Bob at September 20, 2010 10:44 PM (9b6FB)

We cover politics from every angle - from international socialist to national socialist...we've got it all!

Its not news...its CNN...

1. Christiane Amanpour bugs the fuck out of me and thus I will not watch a moment of her.

Heh!  You are not the only one not watching her--heh!  Her ratings are in teh tank!

159 @156  aubergine

Yes! Plus another word beginning with "m". Bing reveals it is "melongene".

You are forgetting chili, cheese, bbq sauce, a Wendy's Frosty, ranch dressing....?

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 20, 2010 10:42 PM (2g2ex)

Well, you can always stick your fries in whatever's on the table. Your burger, your hat, your tuna salad. But here you have to ask if they have malt vinegar. Most places bring out the clear shit, or the apple cider shit.

Here in Michigan, chili-cheese fries are popular. But even they would benefit from a dousing with malt vinegar. Mayo is ok. A bit thick for my tastes.

NKorea to name new leader?

Well, he would need to be somewhat portly, have big teeth, and bad hair along with screwball ideas.

Al Franken?

Posted by: Anachronda at September 20, 2010 10:47 PM (6fER6)

Well, I'd like a tax mechanism that didn't require tens of thousands of pages of regulations and hours of computation for me to figure out.

Keep in mind the government still requires you to make all the information in question available to them on request...for seven years...on pain of...again...imprisonment.

You say this as if it's a bad thing?

It's not the good kind of freaky...

--I went to a restaurant in Regina (of all places) that was beer-themed.  They did not brew their own (although they had a good selection) but the theme was that every food item (except for desserts) has beer in them.  In lieu of ketchup they served mayonnaise infused with stout.  It was pretty good with fries.

Posted by: logprof at September 20, 2010 10:43 PM (BP6Z1)

Heh, I love Regina, if for no reason than it "rhymes with." Another "infused" mayo that kicks ass on fries is mayo with wasabi. That goes very, very well with beer of all types.

From Politico, Murkowski campaign pulls add.  They got the spelling right on the sign in the picture, but not on the url for her website.  Can I buy a vowel?  LOL!

And then, the Politico article which points out the misspelling in the ad website (which itself is intended to convey the spelling of her name) misspells her name again in a different way.

Yeah, she's going to have no trouble with a write-in campaign.  Her own staff and a professional political journalist can't spell it correctly, but surely the voters will.

Well, he would need to be somewhat portly, have big teeth, and bad hair along with screwball ideas.

Jeaneneanenee Bufflao?

165 Indeed. A friend turned me on to Foyle's War. I've almost made it through the whole series (2 episodes left; the war's over now).

Are you watching the post-war episodes, or the 2 previous? I personally think they should have stopped with the end of the war, since (1) it seems a fitting ending and (2) the 3 post-war episodes seem like an entirely different series. It needed more continuity.

I still haven't decided whether it's a detective series set in WWII or a WWII series wrapped around a detective setting.

Either way, it's excellent.

Absolutely agree. Love the fact that they consulted local museums and good textbooks about the history. The characters are wonderful as well.

Julia Roberts?

The Norks wouldn't stand for a dame. Maybe Minniesoda would let her replace Al, which would leave them right back where they started.

About the only thing the gov't prosecutes people seriously on is tax evasion. Al Capone, anyone?

Meh - taxes are for the little people.  Just ask the Secretary of the Treasury, Secretary of Health and Human Services, Senator Tom Dashle, Senator John Forbes Kerry, Senator Charlie Rangel and so on and so on and so on ....

man I so want to go to Europe, sounds like a lot of fun from all these stories

I had a great time in England!  I'd love to go back some day, and go to Scottland (I've always wanted to go there).  Austrailia is high on my list too.  Funny I have no desire to go to Japan (even though that's my ancestry).

Heh, I love Regina, if for no reason than it "rhymes with." Another "infused" mayo that kicks ass on fries is mayo with wasabi. That goes very, very well with beer of all types.

Posted by: K~Bob at September 20, 2010 10:53 PM (9b6FB)

--Beer Brothers was the name of the restaurant, and their menus are online.

Posted by: martha stewarts left nipple at September 20, 2010 10:53 PM (9e8Ti)

Hey, just because they took the Ak-47 away and gave it to someone else doesn't mean he wasn't a peace loving civilian. I mean look at this poor guy here - he was obviously on his way to a Halloween party what with the fake knives, fake pistol, fake grenades, and fake RPG.

How about we send all the Hollywood left to Norkland and let them rule by committee?

She's reliably anti-American, anti-Israel, and anti-Jewish

I came in late...what did Hillary do now?

Posted by: chemjeff at September 20, 2010 10:54 PM (E97ku)

--No free refills there, but the cheap beer and wine make up for it.

Posted by: MAJHAM at September 20, 2010 10:35 PM (GqGQo)
Who didn't see that coming???

if there is a UK version of the ont, why didn't you add a toothpste commercial?

yeah, i went there

Posted by: Gran at September 20, 2010 10:55 PM (kmmbv)

I always found it funny growing up in the Philly area, visiting our Seattle relatives and them calling soda, "pop."  Then I met some girls from Pittsburgh who also called it "pop"--thought that was so funny--like Pittsburgh thought they were the West Coast or something.  Since living here in Seattle, I've sometimes had to call soda, "pop"--because the waiter/waitress/guy behind the counter didn't understand what soda was or thought I said "Seven Up". 

Young gun: Unseen Seventies photo of up-and-coming businessman Silvio Berlusconi... armed with a 357 Magnum

http://tinyurl.com/2vf957p

In case anyone was wondering, the new Hawaii 5-0 sucks.

hmmmm, i live in hawaii and i was the 5-0..............

wait a minute

SCREW YOU BUDDY!!!!!!!!

--No free refills there, but the cheap beer and wine make up for it.

And all the beverages are served at room temperature.  I would run to McDonalds just so I could get ice in my SODA. 

The scrolling newsline bar on FoxNews had one report.  Jimmy Carter says he has had a better post presidency than other presidents. 

Stay classy Jimmy.

I came in late...what did Hillary do now?

Well for one thing she's like almost 70 years old and that shoulder length, drab hair is so not working - WTF?

I came in late...what did Hillary do now?

She was sporting a completely unflattering, unprofessional new do (banana clip from the 80's) and an hideous blue pantsuit. 

I always found it funny growing up in the Philly area, visiting our Seattle relatives and them calling soda, "pop."  Then I met some girls from Pittsburgh who also called it "pop"--thought that was so funny--like Pittsburgh thought they were the West Coast or something.  Since living here in Seattle, I've sometimes had to call soda, "pop"--because the waiter/waitress/guy behind the counter didn't understand what soda was or thought I said "Seven Up". 

The map was interesting.  My dad from Boston pronounces it catsup but all the bottles say ketchup and any type of  soda was "tonic"

In case anyone was wondering, the new Hawaii 5-0 sucks.

hmmmm, i live in hawaii and i was the 5-0..............

wait a minute

SCREW YOU BUDDY!!!!!!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 20, 2010 11:01 PM (S9k9+)

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 20, 2010 11:03 PM (c0A3e)

--Do not pass up the Old Jameson Distillery tour either!

At the risk of sounding like a skin flautist, I have to say Paris is the most beautiful city I've ever seen.

London and Paris is a must-do for travel lovers.

Jimmy Carter says he has had a better post presidency than other presidents.

What he probably means is that he's still above ground.  So, better for him, not so much for America.

Well, America benfitted greatly from his departure from the Oval Office, so he has that going for him.

Do not pass up the Old Jameson Distillery tour either!

I heard that the Waterford Crystal Factory tour is also a good one.

236 Someone mapped it out.

Other???  WTF could "other" be?  Perhaps "bourbon"?

I'd love to go my "homeland" one day, Ireland

My maternal granny traces back to Wales. I could handle a trip there. But I'd want to go to Ireland also. Two reasons--The Irish Derby and Newgrange (the latter only if I could get in).

From TX AG Greg Abbott:

More Texans carry guns

Figures for the 2009-2010 fiscal year, which ended Aug. 31, have yet to be compiled, but at the end of calendar year 2009 the number of concealed handgun licenses increased 61.4 percent compared to the previous year, DPS reported.

Way-uz the tawnic??!?

Big party down at Florian Hall - they got all the tawnic!!!

At the risk of sounding like a skin flautist, I have to say Paris is the most beautiful city I've ever seen

i been there many times and i can honestly say that paris would be one of the greatest cities on earth if you get rid of the french

Every time I've been to Ireland, I've avoided the Waterford and Wexford area.

On purpose.

264 Something wicked this way comes.

OH GOD!  WHY DID I LOOK?!

I also want to go to Paris but everyone I've talked to who has been there says the city is dirty and it smells. Even if that's the case, I still want to go just to see the city. And hopefully stay somewhere around Champs-Elysee.

Forget all that noise. Give yourself at least a week and stay where you're thinking. It's absolutely gorgeous.

At the risk of sounding like a skin flautist, I have to say Paris is the most beautiful city I've ever seen.

London and Paris is a must-do for travel lovers.

Posted by: gator at September 20, 2010 11:05 PM (aOKEC)

--I'd say they're both prettier --and just bigger-- but Prague is also impressive and cleaner.

276  if you can go to spain, trust me....go

its an incredible country

OK, off to watch tv with the hubby, have a great night all!

And Kratos, you'd better sleep with one eye open--my JuJu-Fu is out to get you!  Heh!

With my ancestors, if I skipped all the locations in the British Isles, I'd be stuck in either the Netherlands, Belgium, or Germany. Pass.

264 Something wicked this way comes.

OH GOD!  WHY DID I LOOK?!

Alex

Hehheheheh

Tonight's post brought to you by the Women's Home Defence Corp, 1940:

Oh for heaven's sake... my wife could beat up would-be a mugger with a purse or her bare hands.  That's why I keep her around.  For spontaneous protection.  Can't always keep a loaded handgun in the People's Republic of California.

287  you know who smokes the most?

the japanese

when i was in tokyo, i swear everyone had a lit cigarette going, even kids in strollers

264,

Egad! I'm having dinner! *Oh well, maybe the feral cats are hungry*

I'd love to see my Motherland, Spain. Maybe someday.

I'm actually hoping to visit Barcelona next year.  I have a friend there, and I've found a couple of places that offer riding tours of the countryside.

Edinburgh.   Then Prague. 

the japanese

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 20, 2010 11:13 PM (S9k9+)

Uh, no.

I'd be stuck in either the Netherlands, Belgium, or Germany.

Don't pass - beautiful places!! 

well today was a pretty damn long day so i'm going to bed

g'night sleep tight, don't let the... oh wait

Alex  ... Hehheheheh

There is a special place in Hell for you, my friend...

osted by: Ohio Dan at September 20, 2010 11:07 PM (rurh0)

Damn.  You.  prettypinkfluffypanties

By comparison it make a turd in a punch bowl look appetizing doesn't it?

Edinburgh.   Then Prague. 

Posted by: gus at September 20, 2010 11:15 PM (C02p4)

--Add Salzburg to that list, and you have three gorgeous, easily walkable cities overshadowed by imposing and lovely castles.

309  i thought the same but was wrong

they say the all time big hit to tourism hawaii ever took is when we passed the smoking ban in hotel rooms

jap tourists dropped almost in half in a couple weeks

291 Hi y'all.

My contribution for UK night.

Coming soon here, thanks to Obamacare.  Disturbing picture at the link.

What's curious is that a # of the commenters said that it occurs quite regularly (even in the US!) and it's best to just put cork on it. Though another person said it's one of the worst hospitals in the UK.

Anybody know about this?

I'd be stuck in either the Netherlands, Belgium, or Germany.

Don't pass - beautiful places!! 

Posted by: tank at September 20, 2010 11:15 PM (1UEyn)

--I have yet to go to Belgium (Luxembourg is the only Low Country I've visited) but would love to see Bruges.

when i was in tokyo, i swear everyone had a lit cigarette going, even kids in strollers

That surprises me actually. I thought they were big into health and cleanliness, ect. I know Japan has one of hte hghest lfie expectancies.

The fact that there is smoking on the upper level of the double decker buses in England and Ireland sucks - you smell like an ashtray if you rid up there.

Japanese life expectancies - didnt they find out recently that all the really old people are dead and their families just say they're alive and collect their pensions - so maybe the real life expectancy is a lot shorter? 

316  also naples, great city

only for the sailors..... you went to the gut and only saw scuz by the train station or the castle so hush

Posted by: LEVI JOHNSON at September 20, 2010 11:19 PM (eHP4n)

--Youre late to the game, pal.

I have yet to go to Belgium (Luxembourg is the only Low Country I've visited) but would love to see Bruges.
Bruges is lovely.  I was there in 1994 and saw Red Sox paraphenalia in a shop in the city centre - which made my day.  

Posted by: Nicholis Sarkozy at September 20, 2010 11:23 PM (uCjoj)

Fucking bitch.

What's curious is that a # of the commenters said that it occurs quite regularly (even in the US!) and it's best to just put cork on it. Though another person said it's one of the worst hospitals in the UK.

Anybody know about this?

If it was my elbow, and I got that response from the medical experts, I'd be tempted to fix it myself with a pair of pliers and a large dose of Valu-Rite.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at September 20, 2010 11:24 PM (gofDd)

--Ha!  You're a chick so they're both the same thing.

330  i remember the day when the italian ban went into effect, no one gave a damn what the law said, they smoked where and when they wanted to

its so bad in italy, once in the care bears locker room, i saw the police chief brushing his teeth while holding a lit cigarette

me:  what the hell are you doing?

tony:  brushing my teeth, you should try it sometime

me:  you're brushing and smoking

tony:  stfu and go back to america bastardo

Of all the European countries I listed*, I would most be interested in visting my great great grandfather's stomping grounds in the north right near the border with Germany (I think it's Groningen).

*The Netherlands, Belgium, Germany

Germany is awesome....the people are cool, lots o' beer, great history....Spain, too. Italy, of course, is beautiful.

But Paris, if you love art...fabulous.

K-Bob,  We had a great time.  I think most everyone had New York Strip.  We really didn't hit on politics too hard but just getting to know each other a little.  Let's face it, on here we are somewhat faceless.  Lacey wants me to keep this to myself but she is a sweet, classy and intelligent gal.  Herr Morgenholz is a hoot and Mystry is a intelligent well rounded guy with his head set right during a rough time.  I was there with my wife.  All pretty much agree remaining faceless is probably an improvement for me.

Toledo would be a long haul for me from Cincinnati so I'm putting you in charge of the next one up your way.

Ohio Dan

And the food?

They have everything we have, plus good stuff.

me and the wife are already set on retiring in sardinia, italy when she can afford to retire

get a nice little place on the med and drink caffe lattes with baileys and eat gellato

Posted by: Tourism Council of Tana Tuva at September 20, 2010 11:29 PM (YX6i/)

When do I get my cut?

someone to keep me company.

Oooh, pick me! Pick me! *waves wildly*

351  i've know him since the first time i was stationed there in 95

in fact he's my daughter's godfather

if you are going to have a godfather, may as well have a real one

And the food?

They have everything we have, plus good stuff.

Posted by: gator at September 20, 2010 11:30 PM (aOKEC)

--Paris was the first place I had French onion soup.  I don't really like onions, but it was chilly (New year's Day) and I wanted warm food.

It was superb!

340 #321  I have two surgical pins in my right elbow, and I was never told by anybody that if the pins popped out like that to "just put cork on it". 

I'd go with the second explanation. 

What would happen if they removed it now? Or do I not really want to know?

343 If it was my elbow, and I got that response from the medical experts, I'd be tempted to fix it myself with a pair of pliers and a large dose of Valu-Rite.

Someone says that this hospital (Heartlands) is known by the locals as "Heartless". Also lots of comments about Britain enjoying its 3rd-world status. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 20, 2010 11:27 PM (c0A3e)

Reminds me of an interview I saw with France's oldest living person about 25 years ago. She was a blind lady of 120. The two funny bits:

1)She didn't want to sell her home, but a pushy investor finally sold her on a "life tenancy" deal.  He waited like, 30 years or so on that house, and he finally died before she became too old to live there herself.

2)She had outlived her children.  OK that's not funny.

3)When asked: "Gosh, you've seen such remarkable changes in your life, from the horse and buggy days to men on the moon--what do you think the future will be like?"

She answered, "short."

When do I get my cut?

Posted by: Zombie Richard Feynman at September 20, 2010 11:31 PM (BP6Z1)

Oh yeah.  You're just a regular ol' Indiana Jones.  And my Indian Jones we mean Marion Ravenwood.

best europe food......spain

by far bar none

worst......greece

i would rather eat tacos and radishes from street vendors in tijuana

When do I get my cut?

Posted by: Zombie Richard Feynman at September 20, 2010 11:31 PM (BP6Z1)

Oh yeah.  You're just a regular ol' Indiana Jones.  And my Indian Jones we mean Marion Ravenwood.

Posted by: Tourism Council of Tana Tuva at September 20, 2010 11:33 PM (YX6i/)

Tuva or Bust

My dad was actually just in Alaska. They were apparently doing non-stop Murkowski coverage. He said it was annoying at best.

381  east st. louis

even the people in gary, indiana are afraid to go there

Good question.  There was discussion about removing the pins about a year or so after the elbow surgery, but ultimately the orthopedists decided to keep them in for additional stability. 

best europe food......spain

Tuva or Bust

Posted by: logprof at September 20, 2010 11:37 PM (BP6Z1)

I'm aware.

They looked like someone had attacked a potato with a melon baller.

Tater tots?

Posted by: logprof at September 20, 2010 11:35 PM (BP6Z1)

You know, I think she smoked and had a shot of whiskey every day.

I think I'm gonna replace my list of supplements and go that way for a while.

Somebody registered the misspelled website as it was listed in the ad: www.lisamurkwski.com

Go take a look at the site...!

394 #372 Good question.  There was discussion about removing the pins about a year or so after the elbow surgery, but ultimately the orthopedists decided to keep them in for additional stability. 

Suddenly reminds me of a South African friend of mine, who had a rod placed in her back and hoped it would set-off the metal detectors @ the airports.

As for the story about the woman, I note the Brits keep saying someone mentioned something about their country being 3rd-world. Wonder who that was. Also see many complaints about the NHS, especially due to this: "Lisa Dunn, hospital director at Heartlands, said: 'We are very disappointed to learn of these complaints raised by Mrs Goodswen'."

You know, I think she smoked and had a shot of whiskey every day.

I think I'm gonna replace my list of supplements and go that way for a while.

Posted by: K~Bob at September 20, 2010 11:43 PM (9b6FB)

--One of my college friends had a grandmother who went to see her doctor.  He asked her about drinking and she told him that she drank (I think) 3 beers or so a day.  He told her to stop, she did, and a few weeks later she died.

Medicine is not an exact science.

self-correction: NO is bleauxing the game

Wow, I didn't know you could speak Austrian!

denied

I'd like to see a replay. The QB had room to run it in to the right, I believe.

Light drinking and light Valium from 5 years ago I found last week.

Taking expired drugs is not a good idea.

Taking expired drugs is not a good idea.

Isn't mixing those things a no-no?

I used to mix the two all the time. The five-year thing would bother me, though.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at September 20, 2010 11:46 PM (gofDd)

Movie title in there, somewhere.

I went to school with one of Mike Singletary's nieces.

I used to mix the two all the time. The five-year thing would bother me, though.

Somebody registered the misspelled website as it was listed in the ad: www.lisamurkwski.com

Go take a look at the site...!

Posted by: Mayday at September 20, 2010 11:44 PM (TRgli)

I give serious kudos to the person that put those panties on a rhino. That has to be harder than pulling them off Helen Thomas.

467,

Yep. Back in the day I had a connection through a pharmacy and a hospital--people who worked there. They were easy to get. Everybody in town was walking around with a goofy, yet pleased look on their face.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at September 20, 2010 11:46 PM (gofDd)

He was thinking of me, but he's such a coy tease!

Some one should tell Carter the role of former President is the same role I give the parents of the softball teams I coach:

show up, sit down, shut up and clap.

Did you hear about W's thinly veiled swipe at Carter a couple of weeks back?  Something along the lines of, "I don't think it's my place to complain about my successor.  I didn't appreciate it when some of -- ONE of -- my predecessors did that to me."  Or something like that.

Posted by: Chris in Va at September 21, 2010 12:08 AM (uCjoj)

WTF?

Posted by: Chris in Va at September 21, 2010 12:08 AM (uCjoj)

498 Did you hear about W's thinly veiled swipe at Carter a couple of weeks back?  Something along the lines of, "I don't think it's my place to complain about my successor.  I didn't appreciate it when some of -- ONE of -- my predecessors did that to me."  Or something like that.

Didn't he say that after he visited Dick Cheney in the hospital?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at September 21, 2010 12:15 AM (Yq+qN)

Yes.  Billy was actually the savant of the family.

Was Jimmy Carter always so mean?

We thought so.

Posted by: bouncing dead cat at September 21, 2010 12:20 AM (SwkdU)

Even my leftwing friends are mocking this bit of wisdom from the State Media...

Was Jimmy Carter always so mean?

I don't think so.  I think he was and is bitter  because his presidency was such a royal clusterf**k.  The man did and has done nothing right.  Someone wrote on this blog a while back, Carter sat and watched a parade in his hometown (I think) and nobody was even speaking to him.  I think he is a bitter man forever in want for something that will never come, adulation and respect.

526,

Well, it did liven things up last week.

518 506 IMHO, I don't think he was, but after being unceremoniously kicked out of office after one term, he grew bitter and resentful.

That's what my mom has told me, though she admits she was more interested in school than politics (she was 15 during the 1980 Election).

524 ...I think he was and is bitter  because his presidency was such a royal clusterf**k.  The man did and has done nothing right....I think he is a bitter man forever in want for something that will never come, adulation and respect.

But he could have earned some of that by doing something productive for the country post-presidency, like some other former presidents did.

/Since memoirs wouldn't work in his case.

We are out of recession due to the summer of recovery.

Posted by: Truman North at September 21, 2010 12:29 AM (HLGCA)

Wow, it's not eve Wednesday, yet.

Regarding Carter, I was in high school during his presidency.  Things are certainly terrible now, but having Iran hold our hostages (over 100 of them, I think) for over a year was just an awful feeling during that time.  Then to have them released just minutes after Reagan was inaugurated (Iran kind of giving Carter the finger) must have been hard for him to bear. 

Time usually softens a president's bad reputation (see: Nixon) but Carter is doing everything possible to prevent that.

I'd walk a mile for a Poontang.

The only thing I can say good about Carter is I will probably outlive him.  I can't even say that about Obama.  That POS will haunt us the rest of our lives.  Carter and Clinton are the most classless SOB expresidents I have ever seen.

I suspect Obama will prove even more of a pain in the ass after he leaves office.  He will, ultimately, embarrass Democrat Party and the USA at heretofore  unprecidented levels.  It is not inconceivable that he will announce he is or has become a Muslim.

541 My lawn. Git off it.

But dad was 21! Surely that counts for something!

_{*dashes off*}

I suspect Obama will prove even more of a pain in the ass after he leaves office.  He will, ultimately, embarrass Democrat Party and the USA at heretofore  unprecidented levels.  It is not inconceivable that he will announce he is or has become a Muslim.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at September 21, 2010 12:32 AM (rurh0)

I was just thinking about that yesterday.  He's going to be the most insufferable ex-President in history.

Unprecidented un-President!

I hate moose limbs. There's hardly any meat on 'em and they're too gamey.

Newey, Newey! Puffa-Puffa Poontang!

565 has anyone read young guns?

The Ryan/McCarthy/Cantor book? No, surprisingly.

567 I was talking to your mother, Young Lady.

Oh.

Buy my new book, Poontangs and Patriots.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 21, 2010 12:34 AM (c0A3e)

So, basically, he did it better.

Join me, Luke, and together we shall rule the Poontang.

577 #575 Your Presidency of the Paul Ryan fan club is in jeopardy with this revelation. 

Co-presidency. Besides, while I'm somewhat a fan of Cantor, his stuff sometimes makes me yawn. He & Ryan also don't seem like they would have much in common personality-wise. Still, might be an interesting read.

_{*stares at tilting tower of bks*}

Posted by: Timex at September 21, 2010 12:50 AM (THrql)

FIFY

Posted by: K~Bob at September 21, 2010 12:44 AM (9b6FB)

Doubt it.  I'm willing to bet Obama can't stand to be around w. for more than 5 minutes.  Think about it, he thinks he's some sort of elite and the smartest man in the room.  And even though Bush went to some of the "correct" schools he's viewed as a simpleton and common.  I do not see someone like Obama ever hanging out with someone he views that way.  It goes againt every fiber of his being.

And do you really think he'd go golfing with someone that can kick his ass on the front and back nine like Bush probably could. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 21, 2010 12:50 AM (c0A3e)

new show on NBC. It made no sense and it jumped the time line around so much for no fucking reason

So does fall start on the 21st or 22nd?

You're the resident (and evil) deity, start it whenever you want. Like we're gonna argue with the Goddess of Doom? ^{*yeah, right*}

Co-presidency. Besides, while I'm somewhat a fan of Cantor, his stuff sometimes makes me yawn. He & Ryan also don't seem like they would have much in common personality-wise. Still, might be an interesting read.

_{*stares at tilting tower of bks*}

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at September 21, 2010 12:51 AM (Yq+qN)

FUCKING RINO!! YOU MUST BE PURGED!!

new show on NBC. It made no sense and it jumped the time line around so much for no fucking reason

Posted by: The Dude at September 21, 2010 12:53 AM (gAmQ1)

Lost, Part II.

You're the resident (and evil) deity, start it whenever you want. Like we're gonna argue with the Goddess of Doom? ^{*yeah, right*}

You'll love all the things your AARP card can do for you!

Lost, Part II.

Posted by: soulpile is... expendable at September 21, 2010 12:58 AM (afWhQ)

But Lost was actually good (minus a few seasons)

Like Erkel wants to be seen standing anywhere near an alpha male like W. makes him look even more giant nerdly pussy.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 21, 2010 12:55 AM (06qnE)

I'm sure the media would take 5000 pictures to get the one shot where Bush looks bad and Obama looks cool and sauve.  And they'd never show any others or the video of them together so you could really see which would come off as the genuine article and in control and comfortable in the situation.

 Is it one of the 57 states?

Yes, but it's nowhere near the Mexican border.

But Lost was actually good (minus a few seasons)

Posted by: The Dude at September 21, 2010 01:01 AM (gAmQ1)

Lost was only good for 2 seasons (maybe 1.5).  After that, you knew that there was no set plan and they were pulling everything out of their asses just to string the viewers along.

618 Nor have I. *ashamed*

My understanding is that Cantor wasn't that involved in the book, though. He just signed on and thus avoided the wrath of being one of the original Young Guns to abandon the Young Guns.

Ryan and McCarthy likely wrote a majority of it, since those two have written legislation together.

Also didn't know this: There are three levels of the Young Guns program – “On the Radar”, “Contender”, and “Young Gun”. The count is now @ 52 (or was, as of August).

He doesn't speak Texan and probably couldn't find Texas on a map. Is it one of the 57 states?

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at September 21, 2010 12:57 AM (gofDd)

Its not in Ohio so he won't go there.  Biden was here today to do more pimpin' of Strickland.  Nothing like having your tax dollars spent to have Biden and Obama flown in on their jets for a few hours trip to campaign for a soon to be out of work loser.  On the plus side his motorcade did drive past me, and I saw Air Force 2 or whatever they refer to the Jet the VP is on take off.  That's likely the closest I'll ever get to the VP or POTUS

Posted by: Z Ryan at September 21, 2010 01:04 AM (cMo6P)

Not really, it falls into the Sopranos trap. One and a half good seasons and then pure shit with a good episode once in a full moon.

Soon it will come.

Like now.

Or maybe now?

Soon it will come.

And so will Christmas.

666?

So now you own your own soul. Wasn't that already a given?

646 #643 How Lost Should Have Ended.

That was better than the entirety of Lost.

Posted by: Z Ryan at September 21, 2010 01:11 AM (cMo6P)

but they weren't really good though. Season 1 was outstanding but outside of that, Bodie, Bubbles, Daniels and the war with Omar and the Louis Farrakhan fucker were the only saving points.

678,

Can denizens on the ONT expect pieces of silver for bringing in new victims participants?

Posted by: Z Ryan at September 21, 2010 01:16 AM (cMo6P)

Just watch the first season and a half (where they failed at trying to make suicide bombers into heroes on the planet), after that it's complete shit.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 21, 2010 01:18 AM (c0A3e)

Well, she can accommodate eight at a time.  Should be some really skeezy money in that.

689,

Well yeah, but in the meantime... _{*booze, hookers, race tracks*}

689 #684  Your silver ain't going to help you when she fills up the key with souls and allows her demon buddies to unleash the Gates of Hell and bring back the darkness. 

So there are two of them ^ ?

but they weren't really good though. Season 1 was outstanding but outside of that, Bodie, Bubbles, Daniels and the war with Omar and the Louis Farrakhan fucker were the only saving points.

City turned off the power in the area and my garage door decided to open itself while I was at work. It also forgot all its set points so I have to readjust it. Well finish it, it got too hot and stopped working.

Nothing got stolen, but a kitty went out for some extra hunting time. The jerk.

Octomom's cooter...

http://tinyurl.com/2d6qrtn

And it isn't shaved.

700 #696  Yes.  Don't play dumb - I've seen them while I was raiding your ex-Consort's Palace. 

Just checking your continuity.

707,

Yes, I like 'em bushy.

#710 if the average highschooler thinks you are a wonderful teacher, you are probably doing it wrong.

80s Baby,

Church was good, but I'm a CW fan, so I prefer their version. I'll admit a bit of bias.

I am in the process of securing the rights and have applied for the trademark usage of the term “Tea Party Candidate” to be used in association with my campaign for United State Senate at the United States Patent and Trademark Office ("USPTO°)."

#710 Although in general I'm skeptical of 'bull session' type classes in high school, because even the high end student at that age needs to be having knowedge poured into the jug for the most part.

Do you really get better analysis than 'this stuff sucks'?

When I was that age, Carter was running. I knew he would be a bad president - but I wouldn't have been able to tell you why.

Heh. I'm watching Dual Survivor on the tube. Dave just referred to Cody as the "hippy homemaker."

Oh and if you are taking a poll, I don't think any class in my high school provided a study guide. It was what what was in class. A few teachers gave a overview of the structure - two essays, 5 short answer, x multiple choice, etc.

Of course this was before computer printouts, so the teachers may just have been lazy.

As a college dropout---4 times---

Now that is the AoS Lifestyle. Get this man a bottle of ValuRite and a hooker.

726,

Mr. Frizol, Business and Economics teacher in high school was one hell of a teacher. Gave lectures that made it easy as hell to take good notes. The man was thorough like none I've ever learned from. I aced both the Economics and Business classes. He's now retired and works at one of the local golf courses. I drop in every now and then just to talk to him, even if I'm not playing golf. He is a wealth of information.

710 Doc,

In my experience, profs told us they were gracious to provide study guides, and some of them felt the same way about review sessions. That view is changing now with the younger set of profs and undergrads, but it doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing. I had a prof who would provide a very general study guide while reserving the right to ask us various aspects about said person/event/etc. 

As for the student in question, I would consider his history and whether he's honestly concerned or just spouting and being snarky.

You might have been better off if you'd had some midterms. Then they would know your style by finals, for good or ill.

Although a friend of mines kid is starting the college prep process. They are pretty psychotic about it. - classes to prep for tests, outside courses, blah blah blah..

I suppose you could call the whiny note a kind of participatory democracy and give them some credit for that.

I hated MC/TF tests.

Same here. They are as much a test of how good you can guess as opposed to what you really know. I'd rather write it out and tell you what I know.

hi late night Morons.   nope note me. i havent been brinking tonight.

Well I understand the essay fear - if you can't put two words together on paper you might be afraid that what you know would be lost due to lack of expressive power.

Of course my experience as a grader shows that if you can't do an essay you probably will blow the muliple choice ones too.

Doc, if the anonymous student can somehow be traced (electronically?), then you could report it and let the school take it from there.  But whatever the case, you are not responsible for a student who may be in need of mental health assistance especially if there is nothing you can do to identify them.  (chances are the student didn't mean the comment literally, but if there's anything you can do it would ease your mind)

On the study guide, I think you believe that students need to learn resourcefulness and the world will not provide them a guided path.  If so I would agree with you.

Posted by: Doc at September 21, 2010 02:00 AM (MYT77)

I hate those damn privacy laws.  Especially when the student is a minor.  Schools shouldn't be allowed to prevent a parent from knowing what's going on with their kids - especially when they're paying for that education.

Oh I understand the hesitation - they want you to tell them what they should say first. Lots of teachers will punish you for having different opinions - probably even more these days.

My friend even had a teacher say he would punish his son for his dad's political beliefs.

The best test I ever had was in college quantum mechanics - it was open book open note library test. It was solving the field equations for a different condition than the standard example - but it was similar to the standards you could see the similarities and differences.

If you 'got it' it was simple, if pretty involved. If you were lost during the course, I suppose you would be in trouble.

If you are interested, the standard example was always 'wave function of an electron in a box' - rectangular coordinates. The test was to do an electron in a can' - a box with a round cross section, polar coordinates

Of course my experience as a grader shows that if you can't do an essay you probably will blow the multiple choice ones too. Posted by: Oldcat

The only point of order I may have to force here is that I've never had a hand cramp from a MC test. Essay set on the other hand?

Confessed sinners in Hell have had less pain than that which is applied in a history essay test.

Oh I understand the hesitation - they want you to tell them what they should say first. Lots of teachers will punish you for having different opinions - probably even more these days.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2010 02:08 AM (CN+Qv)

I had a few professors like that.  Worst classes ever.  Especially the one that depended on "class participation," which really meant "ass-kissing."  Could not bring myself to regurgitate views with which I didn't agree, so those classes were suffered through.  I did learn one thing, however.  Never speak up, for you will be hammered down.

#778 depends on the number of questions I guess. I have had in a long enough test.

And in the other direction, part of the cramp was probably nervous tension. If you were comfortable with essays, you would cramp less. Especially if you were confident enough to write less - nerves tend to make you run on and on in hopes of getting your point across.

Posted by: curious at September 21, 2010 02:13 AM (p302b)

My high school had this option - I never settled for anything less than 100%.  It was very helpful in learning the math and physics sections.

soulpile - so you learned one valuable lesson - "is this the hill you want to die on?"

Ok two - authority figures can be jerks

In English class in High School they weren't the toady type, but  I did spend some time in the start trying to find out what kind of essays the teacher liked. The funnest one was one that loved the sweeping conclusion - so you tie the Taming of the Shrew to the expansion of Western Civilization. If you could make it plausable, she ate it up.

Posted by: curious at September 21, 2010 02:13 AM (p302b)

My high school had this option - I never settled for anything less than 100%.  It was very helpful in learning the math and physics sections.

Posted by: soulpile is... expendable at September 21, 2010 02:21 AM (afWhQ)

One engilsh class had this option - I got a rewrite back with a D+/D and a stern note about its similarity to another essay. He didnt understand why I laughed until I told him it was a rewrite.

Plagarizing from myself. Lowest of the Low.

And in the other direction, part of the cramp was probably nervous tension. If you were comfortable with essays, you would cramp less. Especially if you were confident enough to write less - nerves tend to make you run on and on in hopes of getting your point across. Posted by: Oldcat

For sure it was nerves, but it was something like 6 essay questions in 3 hours. I'd never even heard of such a test.

In reference to Doc's question, had I known the format, I would have asked for practice questions and probably not have been as nervous. 

You bet I was writing like I was challenged to a pen stabbing competition. It was painful.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at September 21, 2010 02:25 AM (gofDd)

When I took the AP History test, a classmate did the entire test using about three pages of those little blue books. I did about four times the writing, and I am not that wordy.

Both did well. Amazing to be able to condense your thoughts with so much at stake.

Confessed sinners in Hell have had less pain than that which is applied in a history essay test.

Worst hand cramp I ever had was a comparison/contrast of the American and French Revolutions (HS), followed by a literary criticism of Beowulf (college). Of course, I sometimes got carried away, acting like I was writing a thesis. Good times.

soulpile - so you learned one valuable lesson - "is this the hill you want to die on?"

Ok two - authority figures can be jerks

Very true.  I chafed at the bit for the remaining 3.5 years left, though.  Most of my profs were pretty neutral, but some were worthless hacks who only wanted adulation from throngs of adoring fans. 

There was one awesome prof, though.  I wish I could go back and take his classes again.  Incredibly hard, but satisfying once you got the hang of the basics.  His second class was ruined by the new students who prevented us from getting into the theories section.

I loved discussion classes where you could express an opinion and not be told to shut up.  Unfortunately, that was just one Shakespeare class and not the philosophy class, where it really counts. 

_{yes... college left me bitter on education.}

For sure it was nerves, but it was something like 6 essay questions in 3 hours. I'd never even heard of such a test.

Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at September 21, 2010 02:29 AM (23kaI)

Sounds a lot like the AP History/English tests - or how they used to be anyway.

Our history teacher in high school used to have an outline on the board. I would copy that, then summarize his speech in the class inbetween in a different color.

So you can read the class like a book to study for tests.

787 That strikes me as lazy (on the student's part) more than helpful. I never got those kinds of study guides in college. Hell, I don't think I even got those past 9th grade in HS. (And some of the kids threw a bitch fit back then about having too much to know.)

Depends how they write them, and some profs are better than others. I think there's a difference between giving material verbatim and giving a general idea of what you'll be seeing on the test. My modern Russia prof, for example, would list numerous possibilities for questions but only chose 40% of what was written. Quite different from those profs who give you the questions and the answers.

#806 Well I suppose it depends on why you feel crappy.

I guess I'm smart - always did well in school, often without working hard. Things stick in memory easily, and I'm pretty good at understanding the big picture until the right answer 'makes sense'.

But it never really became a part of my self worth - Its like being smug about being tall. That's just genetics.

Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at September 21, 2010 02:37 AM (23kaI)

Yes put all 31 into a suicide councelling group. Then they really will know true suicidal thoughts. And why you don't bullshit around, youre an adult.

So you can read the class like a book to study for tests.  Posted by: Oldcat

Posted by: curious

She brings me to Church. Makes me a better person. And gives me purpose to an astounding degree I never imagined.

821 I had an art history teacher in HS who gave us study guides we had to memorize verbatim. If we could regurgitate it on the test, we got an A. It was a really crappy way to learn, but for awhile I could recite the specs for Chartres in France...

The verbatim study guides make you wonder why they even bother have the class. I notice they're usually give by the profs who read the textbook and their notes aloud, as if we were somehow incapable of doing it [ourselves]. No, the purpose of a study guide should be to point you in the right direction.

{insert cutesy compass analogy here}

Well, dropping out takes more work than just getting some degree or another. So you have to ask yourself why you are dropping out. You don't have to be a genius to finish - and you are smarter than average just based on how you post.

And intelligence is just a tool, like an axe. You can leave it in the garage, use it well, or use it to cut a slice out of your leg.

If you don't like where college life is taking you, you can just do something else. Doing something, even flipping burgers is better than nothing. Especially if you are good at it.

Then you may find use for your genius.

And intelligence is just a tool, like an axe. You can leave it in the garage, use it well, or use it to cut a slice out of your leg. Posted by: Oldcat

An ounce of motivation is worth more than a pound of intelligence.

An ounce of motivation is worth more than a pound of intelligence.

Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at September 21, 2010 02:56 AM (23kaI)

so true so true....i know so many pompous jackasses who have their ivy league degree and are waiting for the world to come to them....

then they demand to know why you won't go out with them....as though there is something wrong with you......

833  It remind me of the logic problem of the donkey halfway between two identical piles of hay. It would starve because there's no reason to go one way or to go the other. Logically, it dies.

Sounds to me that you have a pretty good idea of a goal. So you have to find a way to keep food on the table while you work on the goal. Or you go to college to learn art/design or classes you feel are related to what you want to do. Maybe then you won't feel the urge to drop it.

Work of any kind will at least get you money - and get you off this 'not started yet' point. You want to give yourself to your current friend and future family. But its hardly a worthy gift if you think that you are worthless. You need to find that first.

I guess what you have tried so far isn't it. So try something else - at worst it will be one more false trail eliminated..

I hate cliques in their worst forms (not groups, per se) and believe that the school system tends to encourage the worst types.

Yeah me too. I had the advantage of not caring too much about social stuff - neither need to join or need to rebel.

My mom tells me that as a baby I saw my 5 brothers and sisters sucking their thumbs/ fingers. Tried it once, and never did again.

Whats I found strange is that if you got them off to the side outside of school, you could deal with them as people . The categories fell into place when you were in school, and you couldn't, unless nobody was looking.

Seemed like a lot of trouble to go through. And it didn't seem to make them feel that much better.