March 12, 2014

Overnight Open Thread (3-12-2014)–Mechaphiliaphobia Edition
— Maetenloch

Car F*cker Ready to Settle Down

There's comes a time for a man when playing the parking lot no longer holds the thrill it once did and he begins to long for a single vehicle to share his life with and perhaps one day even raise a fleet of little priuses with.

And for Edward Smith that time is...well real soon now.

After losing his virginity 45 years ago, Edward Smith of Yelm, Washington, knew that the way he felt about headlights and bumpers was the way most men felt about "boobs and buns." Although he never forgot his first - a neighbor's Volkswagon Beetle - the self-proclaimed mechaphile went on to sleep with thousands more automobiles and one woman (who we can only assume is his long-term neighbor Sarah, who is very happy that he's found "something that makes him happy").

Now, at the age 62, after driving around with any car or helicopter part that ignited his passion, Smith is ready to give up his slutty ways and become a one-car kind of man. Well, kind of. Although he considers his carfriend Vanilla (a secondhand VW Beetle he's been with for 30 years) his number one, he still has two other cars he sees on the side - Cinnamon and Splash. But Vanilla doesn't seen to mind much. Their relationship is as solid as steel according to Smith.

"When I hold Vanilla in my arms there's a powerful energy that comes from her in response to that . There's something about Vanilla that I can't fully express on an emotional level," Smith said of his carfriend.

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[Side note to Yelma-Olympia area morons: Be careful where you park you car and watch yer exhaust hole.]

Ukraine: Hopeless But Not Serious

Spengler is quite down on Ukraine as a viable, independent nation.

There isn't going to be a war over Ukraine. There isn't even going to be a crisis over Ukraine. We will perform our ritual war-dance and excoriate the Evil Emperor, and the result would be the same if we had sung "100 Bottles of Beer on the Wall" on a road trip to Kalamazoo. Worry about something really scary, like Iran.

Ukraine isn't a country: it's a Frankenstein monster composed of pieces of dead empires, stitched together by Stalin. It has never had a government in the Western sense of the term after the collapse of the Soviet Union gave it independence, just the equivalent of the family offices for one predatory oligarch after another-including the "Gas Princess," Yulia Tymoshenko. It has a per capital income of $3,300 per year, about the same as Egypt and Syria, and less than a tenth of the European average. The whole market capitalization of its stock exchange is worth less than the Disney Company. It's a basket case that claims to need $35 billion to survive the next two years. Money talks and bullshit walks. Who wants to ask the American taxpayer for $35 billion for Ukraine, one of the most corrupt economies on earth? How about $5 billion? Secretary of State Kerry is talking about $1 billion in loan guarantees, and the Europeans are talking a similar amount. That's not diplomacy. It's a clown show.

Still even a poor, benighted country deserves its sovereignty. But that doesn't imply that we must or should go to war over it.

And yes it's clown shows all the way down.

Is Talking the Shortest Path to War?

All too often it is. Thank you State Department.

A half century worth of experience, however, does not support the thesis that diplomacy with rogue regimes or terrorist groups brings peace. Rather, diplomacy misapplied can be the shortest path to war.

False assumptions undermine strategic interests. Rogues do not accept American standards of diplomacy or the sanctity of agreements. By Western standards, North Korea, Iran, and the PLO cheat, but if judged by their own goals, they triumph. The West may consider economic integration a benefit, but adversaries do not share motivations. Throughout the 1990s, diplomats spoke of the "China model" for Iran, in which trade might bring economic liberalization and, in turn, spark political reform. The result was a cash infusion into Tehran that ended up fueling its nuclear and missile programs.

...The maxim that "it never hurts to talk" has cost lives. Diplomacy imbues rogue leaders with respectability and rewards both bluster and terror. Rogue rulers are not idiots; they understand that they can delay retaliation for months or even years by feigning sincerity. Iranian authorities have become masterful at taking ten steps forward toward their nuclear goal, so long as they mollify diplomats by occasionally taking one step back.

Also Is Sports Diplomacy Worth it?

The short answer is no since sports were the outcome of diplomacy - not the beginning of it.

Second is the Ping-Pong diplomacy that allegedly broke the ice between the United States and Communist China. Henry Kissinger makes clear in his memoir White House Years, however, that the Ping-Pong exhibition actually came after months of behind-the-scenes diplomacy. To credit the athletes for the diplomatic breakthrough puts the cart between the horse.

Bad Girls, Bad Girls, Whatcha Gonna Do?

Can you guess the crimes these hoosegow honeys were charged with?

How about attempted larceny...of my heart. And misdemeanor bossiness.

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Attempted murder, mopery, and littering? Well I'm sure it's all a misunderstanding or something.

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If You Can Whine, Thank a Teacher

Some jobs appear right off the bat to be harder than others. Most would concede that it's incredibly hard to do road maintenance work in Arizona in summer or in Michigan in winter. Marine work - both training and fighting - is hard too. Working in a coroner's office must have a high disgust factor. Working on a cattle ranch is a 365-day-a-year, physically exhausting job. I won't go on, but I will point out that you never read articles from road maintenance people, or Marines, or coroner's assistants, or cattle ranchers and cowboys moaning on and on about how horrible their job is and how only haters don't appreciate what they're doing. Funnily enough, that kind of whiny, narcissistic, incredibly irritating rant comes only from teachers.

Teachers make very good money for the hours they work and the job security they enjoy yet are absolutely convinced that they are uniquely underpaid across all professions. The market disagrees.

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Facebook Buys Their Own Cop

With five unanimous thumbs up, officials on Tuesday agreed to let Facebook foot the bill for a full-time sworn police officer to work out of a substation near the social media giant's new campus.

Menlo Park police Chief Robert Jonsen called it a "benchmark in private-public partnerships" that will result in a highly visible patrol in the Belle Haven neighborhood, an area that has a lower socioeconomic status than the rest of the city and a higher crime rate.

Facebook would fund the officer for three years, with an option to extend the agreement for another two. Tuesday's vote accepted the company's offer of $200,000 a year but added a stipulation that there may be a need to ask for more should costs rise due to pension issues.

Well footing the bill also means influencing how the shots get called.

News You Won't Use: How to Stop Being a Cynical Asshole

I've had many cynical friends over the years. Those friends are funny when you're in your early 20s, but as time marches on that cynicism and negativity tends to wear on a friendship. If you have too many of these types in your social circle, it's hard to kick the habit of being cynical all the time.

I didn't notice how cynical I'd become until I noticed how negative one of my friends was. I realized that we spent the bulk of our time complaining about things, whining about trivial mishaps from the day, or resenting anything new. I couldn't take it anymore and started changing the dynamics of our relationship. The friendship remained, but we hung out less and for shorter periods of time.

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Does The Kind of Car You Drive Matter?

It does when you're trying to get a woman's phone number.

The results? The men were successful 23.3 percent of the time when women saw them in a high-status car, 12.8 percent of the time when they drove a middle-status car, and 7.8 percent of the time when they drove a low-status car. Clearly, women are monitoring our status, and we're acutely aware of that fact.

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1 Hey!

Posted by: EC at March 12, 2014 06:42 PM (doBIb)

2 Evening all. Fresh thread smell.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 06:43 PM (ojnk6)

3 Meanwhile Canucks and Aussies arrested for taking nude pictures at Machu Picchu.

http://tinyurl.com/p3lulrt

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 12, 2014 06:44 PM (23VXG)

4 Hi Horde!

Posted by: Carol at March 12, 2014 06:45 PM (gjOCp)

5 don't gimme no lines and keep your hands to yourself

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at March 12, 2014 06:45 PM (IW1TI)

6 Thanks Maet!

Posted by: Carol at March 12, 2014 06:46 PM (gjOCp)

7 I want my ONT.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 12, 2014 06:46 PM (wNF3N)

8 Howdy, y'all....

Posted by: cthulhu at March 12, 2014 06:47 PM (T1005)

9 WOW.  Reminds me of Charles Barron's reaction to 9/11: "Rep. Charles Rangel called an apparent building explosion and collapse in his district in Harlem of New York City the most “horrific” thing that has hit his home district in his time in Washington and said it is his communityÂ’s Sept. 11."http://preview.tinyurl.com/l5u82fb

Posted by: Baldy at March 12, 2014 06:47 PM (2bql3)

10 Deeds not words.

Posted by: EC at March 12, 2014 06:47 PM (doBIb)

11 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 06:47 PM (JMmQ9)

12 Evening Morons, who we pissing off?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 12, 2014 06:47 PM (GEICT)

13 Hey Maet, bottom picture of the naughty grrls..  is that um Lindsay Lohan?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 12, 2014 06:48 PM (23VXG)

14 I saw Machu Picchu open for Carfucker at Joe Louis Arena back in '83...

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 06:49 PM (JMmQ9)

15 Cthulhu, I had leftover roasted tomatoes for dinner last night. I posted it & was on the verge of falling asleep. IÂ’m not sure if you saw it.

Posted by: Carol at March 12, 2014 06:49 PM (gjOCp)

16 5 Bossy?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 12, 2014 06:49 PM (Q8vlx)

17 My apologies for not appropriately self-censoring. I denounce myself.

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 06:50 PM (JMmQ9)

18 Alton I saw Carfucker too. Don't remember where though.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 12, 2014 06:51 PM (Q8vlx)

19 'Sup heathens! What are we drinking?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 12, 2014 06:51 PM (60Vyp)

20 I'm a bench seats kind of guy. Yeah, it's old school. Never tried a VW. Did I miss anything?

Posted by: eman at March 12, 2014 06:51 PM (AO9UG)

21 15 Cthulhu,
I had leftover roasted tomatoes for dinner last night. I posted it & was on the verge of falling asleep. IÂ’m not sure if you saw it. Posted by: Carol at March 12, 2014 10:49 PM (gjOCp) Hide posts from (gjOCp)


How were they? (I never have leftovers.)

Posted by: cthulhu at March 12, 2014 06:52 PM (T1005)

22 Meanwhile, in the five year long witch hunt to hang GWBush over abusive interrogation techniques has morphed into an attempt to castrate and crucify the CIA.

Senator Feinstein says the CIA 'spied' on her committee staffers, and the CIA says committee staffers took documents in violation of their agreement. Obama's 'justice' department dithers while Feinstein smears the CIA in the news media.

Drudge has links.

Damn Democrats are traitors and have been for a very long time. Damn shame we put up with it.

Posted by: Stunted Fir Polar Bear Ranch at March 12, 2014 06:52 PM (7OIjL)

23 That second Bad Girl looks nasty.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at March 12, 2014 06:52 PM (7cS5n)

24 I'm in love with my car Gotta feel for my automobile.

Posted by: f'd at March 12, 2014 06:52 PM (JdEZJ)

25 From last thread, Thank you Hugo the Chavez. I set up new wireless router & then had printer issues. I fixed it now. I bought Apple router. It was the easiest one I had ever set up except for printer. I had to change password on it. Apple computers are simple compared to Windows to set up.

Posted by: Carol at March 12, 2014 06:52 PM (gjOCp)

26 It's comforting to know that Obama apparently watches more TV than the average unemployed 19 year old college dropout. Who has time to watch every TV series that HBO and AMC put out? Apparently Obama. Golf and prestige TV, it's a good gig.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 12, 2014 06:53 PM (ZPrif)

27 I climbed "the grapevine" in a bug with two other guys.  Lucky to go 40 mph.

I loved flying up it years later in a car with a V8.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 12, 2014 06:53 PM (V70Uh)

28 If only my dick would fit in a tailpipe...

Posted by: Countrysquire at March 12, 2014 06:54 PM (8FyP4)

29 Too small?  No contact?


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 12, 2014 06:54 PM (V70Uh)

30



" 3 Meanwhile Canucks and Aussies arrested for taking nude pictures at Machu Picchu. "

It was 4 guys acting out scenes from
 Brokeback  Picchu.










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Posted by: American Dawg at March 12, 2014 06:55 PM (p6iIL)

31 Carol: I switched to all apple and never looked back. I have not regretted that decision. Good Luck!

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 12, 2014 06:55 PM (Q8vlx)

32 Meanwhile Canucks and Aussies arrested for taking nude pictures at Machu Picchu.

http://tinyurl.com/p3lulrt

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 12, 2014 10:44 PM (23VXG)


All males? Sounds very ghey to me.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2014 06:55 PM (3Li4k)

33 Tail pipe? And why does my state seem to have a high percentage of freaks who don't have normal sex with people?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 12, 2014 06:55 PM (RZ8pf)

34 I'd hit it. To all except three. One with the duck face, then there is one that looks like she would ice pick you. And then Lindsay, no.

Posted by: traye at March 12, 2014 06:56 PM (PZeh4)

35 Obama's 'justice' department dithers while Feinstein smears Obama's CIA in the news media.

FIFY.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 06:56 PM (IN7k+)

36 Guess that freshly written story about the carfucker won't be needed for the Saturday car thread now...

Posted by: Countrysquire at March 12, 2014 06:56 PM (8FyP4)

37 My dad was hemming and hawing on buying himself a new gun. He thought he might be pissing away his retirement money. I told him as long as it wasn't at the casino buying fun stuff ain't a waste. He got a new Henry .45 cal this week. It is a beautiful piece. And he has a big ass grin. Can't wait to shoot it with him.

Posted by: Dendritic at March 12, 2014 06:56 PM (Fi+kS)

38 Good evening, everyone.

Posted by: shredded chi at March 12, 2014 06:57 PM (HYcaA)

39 My first time getting laid was ON a VW, not WITH it. I also had mosquito bites on every part of my body but my dick.
 
Of course it was worth it.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 12, 2014 06:57 PM (wNF3N)

40 Chi how you doin

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 12, 2014 06:58 PM (Q8vlx)

41 That 2nd girl , with a little time and effort I could straighten her out

Posted by: Johnny Carson's Dong at March 12, 2014 06:58 PM (p6iIL)

42 Carol: I switched to all apple and never looked back. I have not regretted that decision. Good Luck! Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 12, 2014 10:55 PM (Q8vlx) I have a Windows computer only for when I work from home. I have had this Mac laptop for over two years & will never buy a Windows computer again. Updates are painless, quick & do not completely alter the system. They had security issue since September 2012 but they put out a fix for iPhones & iPads in a day. It took a few days for them to update the Macs.

Posted by: Carol at March 12, 2014 06:58 PM (gjOCp)

43 I don't always fuck cars, but when I do, I prefer pale German models.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 12, 2014 06:58 PM (ZshNr)

44

The car-status thing is not really new...

Women thru the ages have been attracted to a man astride a mighty steed.

 

I guess it's kind of a regional thing though, as to what is a 'high status' ride...

 

Country girls would find a shiny Lexus rather silly.

And City girls probably wouldn't be impressed with a fully loaded 4X4 truck.

Posted by: wheatie at March 12, 2014 06:58 PM (8quPO)

45 The south park episode where "everything is shit" really struck home. I started to recommend it to a friend and stopped, realizing it wasn't that funny. I was recommending it because it was so true.

Posted by: irright at March 12, 2014 06:58 PM (DtNNC)

46 Read this. http://tinyurl.com/mq232v6

Posted by: Bushwick Bill at March 12, 2014 06:58 PM (Q4xrB)

47 Carol: word!

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 12, 2014 06:59 PM (Q8vlx)

48 I forgot The Americans is on. I will watch the 11 oÂ’clock episode. ItÂ’s 10:59. IÂ’ll be back later if I donÂ’t fall asleep.

Posted by: Carol at March 12, 2014 07:00 PM (gjOCp)

49 Was anyone on that missing plane scheduled to give testimony?

Posted by: Zombie Ron Brown at March 12, 2014 07:00 PM (C94J7)

50 I have had four BMWs since 1986. Last one was a 1995 that I kept from January 1996 through November 2011. They last & are big safe cars. I want a safe car & not one with cafe standards & that bullshit!

Posted by: Carol at March 12, 2014 07:01 PM (gjOCp)

51
"News You Won't Use: How to Stop Being a Cynical Asshole'




Frankly, at this point my only hope is reincarnation.



Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 12, 2014 07:02 PM (kdS6q)

52 Still even a poor, benighted country deserves its sovereignty.

One doesn't deserve sovereignty; one takes it and defends it.

You know nothing, Jon Snow.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 12, 2014 07:02 PM (30eLQ)

53 Prefer the man with the pick-em-up truck -- good for the long haul.

Posted by: NCwoof at March 12, 2014 07:02 PM (aUQgu)

54 For Edward Smith, "Paradise by the Dashboard Light" has a different meaning than for most people, .

Posted by: Thrawn at March 12, 2014 07:02 PM (WlWt+)

55 So does he bugger the bug or does the bug bugger him?

Posted by: f'd at March 12, 2014 07:02 PM (JdEZJ)

56 Adam Air Flt 574 vanished on a routine flight in Indonesia.  Took nine days to find wreckage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Air_Flight_574

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 12, 2014 07:03 PM (23VXG)

57 That last photo is bullsh*t man. I'm no freak.

Posted by: Creepy Weirdo Guy at March 12, 2014 07:03 PM (/oj1+)

58 That VW named Vanilla may need to go in the shop for repairs. I'm getting a weird tranny vibe.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2014 07:03 PM (g4TxM)

59 "News You Won't Use: How to Stop Being a Cynical Asshole"

Yeah, for sure I won't use that. Why give up being right?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2014 07:04 PM (3Li4k)

60 Flatbush Joe, TFG isnÂ’t doing his job. Holder isnÂ’t doing his job. None of them are & we allow it.

Posted by: Carol at March 12, 2014 07:04 PM (gjOCp)

61 I'm well, Chavez. And you?

Posted by: shredded chi at March 12, 2014 07:04 PM (HYcaA)

62 50 If you aren't a cynical asshole through situational observation alone these days, you aren't paying attention.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 07:04 PM (ojnk6)

63
Can you guess the crimes these hoosegow honeys were charged with?

Charge(s): Soliciting prostitution




Hmmm - wait a second, soliciting.  That means she was the one trying to purchase the services.

Oh, you naughty, naughty girl.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 12, 2014 07:05 PM (kdS6q)

64 Would it be crude to mention that Carfucker's VW Beetle was clear when he bought it?

Posted by: Countrysquire at March 12, 2014 07:06 PM (8FyP4)

65 Bookworm: Working in a coroner's office must have a high disgust factor.

I've actually met a girl who did this work. She didn't mind it. It helped that she could joke about the "clients". After all, they're a lot less demanding than a teacher's clients . . .

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 12, 2014 07:06 PM (30eLQ)

66 That VW guy better watch it, with them tailpipes so close, he may need to watch for a dp. Car won't like that shit. Gums up the works you see.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 12, 2014 07:06 PM (Q8vlx)

67 the ep of Twilight Zone on right now is with Russell Johnson (the Professor) and Albert Salmi. It's the ep with the guy who's about to be hanged is sent 80 years into the future to Gilligan's Island.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 07:06 PM (IW1TI)

68

"News You Won't Use: How to Stop Being a Cynical Asshole"

 

I'd read that article, but, it's probably just a bunch of shit.

Posted by: otho at March 12, 2014 07:06 PM (9gNQd)

69 Oh no, they cuffed Zooey Deschanel.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 12, 2014 07:07 PM (30eLQ)

70 Chi doing good. Thanks.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 12, 2014 07:07 PM (Q8vlx)

71 61 You can have my cynical assholishness when you pry it from my cold dead brain.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 12, 2014 07:07 PM (wNF3N)

72 All those dickheads with their heads down looking at their phones or ipads or whatthefuckever are the slowest dumbest wildebeest in the herd . They're a predators meal waiting to happen .

Posted by: awkward davies at March 12, 2014 07:07 PM (whqez)

73 His first wife was a Hemi.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 12, 2014 07:07 PM (ZshNr)

74 Were gettin' the band back together.

Posted by: vladimir blues at March 12, 2014 07:08 PM (WCnJW)

75 67   otho

thx for that laugh.  been a long day.

Posted by: NCwoof at March 12, 2014 07:08 PM (aUQgu)

76 In Soviet Russia, Ford Probe you!

Posted by: Countrysquire at March 12, 2014 07:08 PM (8FyP4)

77 Okay, I admit it! I've been setting here, most of the day but not all of it, causing Amazon to reload so that I can watch that skinny chick strut across the stage and give me that smile. I think we are becoming a couple! no, really!

Posted by: and irresolute at March 12, 2014 07:08 PM (RqHWH)

78

There's no crime in being cynical.

But there's also no need to be an asshole about it.

 

Posted by: wheatie at March 12, 2014 07:09 PM (8quPO)

79 43 I don't always fuck cars, but when I do, I prefer pale German models. Posted by: Lincolntf at March 12, 2014 10:58 PM (ZshNr) ----------------------------- Wie geht es Ihnen?

Posted by: Lars Burmeister at March 12, 2014 07:09 PM (DtNNC)

80 71 They are fcuking everywhere. Had to bust through two at a freaking convenience store that were blocking an aisle while lost in their fcuking phones.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 07:09 PM (ojnk6)

81 68 Oh no, they cuffed Zooey Deschanel. Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 12, 2014 11:07 PM (30eLQ) She deserves to be chained up for her role in "The Happening".

Posted by: Thrawn at March 12, 2014 07:09 PM (WlWt+)

82
See also: 20 Naughty Girls With Smoking Hot Mugshots

http://tinyurl.com/n6xzr6c

Charge(s): Bringing in and harboring aliens




Hey, Mrs Hector! *waves*

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 12, 2014 07:09 PM (kdS6q)

83 >>US isn't a country: it's a Frankenstein monster composed of pieces of dead empires, stitched together by SAM COLT. It has never had a government in the EUROPEAN sense of the term after the collapse of the BRITISH EMPIRE IN NORTH AMERICA gave it independence, just the equivalent of the family offices for one predatory oligarch after another-including the "Gas Princess," HILLARY CLINTON. It's a basket case that claims to need SEVENTY TRILLION DOLLARS to survive the next THIRTY years. Money talks and bullshit walks. << Snark Libs. Beyond the inanity is sucky sour grapes. Who WANTS to allow Ukraine to choose to have free trade with America? It isn't worthy! We're GLAD Putin slapped our faces and invaded!

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at March 12, 2014 07:10 PM (0r+zZ)

84 71 All those dickheads with their heads down looking at their phones or ipads or whatthefuckever are the slowest dumbest wildebeest in the herd . They're a predators meal waiting to happen . Posted by: awkward davies at March 12, 2014 11:07 PM (whqez) I see so many idiots wandering into the street while looking at their phone, I think a sturdy brush guard would be a good investment for my truck.

Posted by: model_1066 at March 12, 2014 07:10 PM (KWIwL)

85 Maet:

Someone posted a comment with a link to a news article at Romea.cz. I followed the link, but when I came back here and refreshed the comments, that comment was gone.

Is that site banned here? I never looked at it before, but it looks to be a site dedicated to news regarding the Romani people (gypsies). Didn't see anything offensive, so I'm trying to figure out why the comment disappeared. Or maybe the commenter him or herself is the problem?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 07:11 PM (IN7k+)

86 "My dad was hemming and hawing on buying himself a new gun. He thought he might be pissing away his retirement money. I told him as long as it wasn't at the casino buying fun stuff ain't a waste."

Buying guns can actually be a very sensible investment if some thought goes into it, and they can be passed down to the next generation.

Unless they're lost in tragic boating accidents. Which I understand sometimes happens with elderly gun owners.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 07:11 PM (gqT4g)

87 Heh@ 78. Gut.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 12, 2014 07:11 PM (ZshNr)

88
        Fuck snow.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 12, 2014 07:12 PM (SAMxH)

89 71 79 we (they) are becoming the people in wall-e.

Posted by: traye at March 12, 2014 07:12 PM (PZeh4)

90 Didn't see anything offensive, so I'm trying to figure out why the comment disappeared. Or maybe the commenter him or herself is the problem?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 11:11 PM (IN7k+)


Probably someone who's been TB3K-banned. Or on the outs with the CT Mafia.

Posted by: Mætenloch at March 12, 2014 07:12 PM (XkotV)

91 Dude must not have much of a choice... Have you ever seen a VW tailpipe? Not exactly large.

Posted by: shredded chi at March 12, 2014 07:13 PM (HYcaA)

92 And the actress who played Frauline Helga from Hogan's Heroes passed away.  She was 76 and originally born in Riga Latvia.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 12, 2014 07:13 PM (23VXG)

93 Do NOT fuck snow!

Posted by: Man with a case of frostbite that I don't care to discuss! at March 12, 2014 07:13 PM (ZshNr)

94 The woman who wrote the article on teaching has a Master of Arts in Teaching. A MAT degree is someone who had a degree in something else then decided to become a teacher. They enroll in a Masters program where they only take education classes and only graduate if they get a job. They are among the least prepared to teach. I'm not surprised she whined then quit.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at March 12, 2014 07:14 PM (zT0DN)

95 Since all threads turn into gun threads...we should have known this one was coming:  Hitler and the Connecticut gun registration law...


http://youtu.be/7kZmbulhEbg


Good evening, y'all!

Posted by: Country Singer at March 12, 2014 07:14 PM (r/e1Q)

96 92 Do NOT fuck snow! Posted by: Man with a case of frostbite that I don't care to discuss! at March 12, 2014 11:13 PM (ZshNr) In Soviet America, snow fucks you!

Posted by: model_1066 at March 12, 2014 07:14 PM (KWIwL)

97 91 Hogan's Heroe's fuck I'm old.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 12, 2014 07:14 PM (Q8vlx)

98 Since the world has become global and so much business is done across great distances. Can we give Putin a blue state in trade and take the Ukraine as a state in it's place?

Posted by: Dendritic at March 12, 2014 07:15 PM (Fi+kS)

99 Now I swear, you just can't make this stuff up. I punched a couple key words into a search engine (that rhymes with Bugle) and found this VW owners forum thread talking about fuel injectors made by another German company. http://tinyurl.com/nyjmeyc The money quote is this: "I have also attached couple of relevant pictures 1. Recall sticker in my boot following the work done 2. Picture of the faulty Siemens injector replaced in Slovakia" Really, dude? If I had a faulty siemens injector I wouldn't get it fixed anywhere in eastern Europe.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2014 07:15 PM (g4TxM)

100 54 So does he bugger the bug or does the bug bugger him? Posted by: f'd at March 12, 2014 11:02 PM ------------------------------------------------------- Depends on insurance and tax rates, so ... he said, she said.

Posted by: irright at March 12, 2014 07:15 PM (DtNNC)

101 It's not as if situational awareness is a good thing in most urban environments . I mean a train platform is the best place to zone out on mp3's . Like being in the library .

Posted by: awkward davies at March 12, 2014 07:16 PM (whqez)

102
8 Women Who Auctioned Off Their Virginity

http://tinyurl.com/kjbnzdk

Rosie Reid, an 18-year-old lesbian from the UK, decided to sell her first sexual experience for $13,300 to attend Bristol University. The buyer? After 2,000 bids, a 44-year-old engineer and divorced father of two won the coveted prize. Rosie regrets the decision. After the act took place she and her partner Jess Cameron “cried and cried.”

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 12, 2014 07:16 PM (kdS6q)

103 71       
Posted by: awkward davies at March 12, 2014 11:07 PM (whqez)

===========================

Today had a doctor's appt, and in the waiting room ( 6 or 7) peoples were hunched over thumbing some kind of device.  Not clue.  No sit-awareness.  No nothing.

I felt like a pure honest-to-god alien in my own city, country, whatever.  Go ahead and shoot me now.

Posted by: NCwoof at March 12, 2014 07:16 PM (aUQgu)

104 Obumbles apparently decided again today to screw the Constitution instead of Reg, and issue an EO that those working on salary were to be paid OT for hours over 40 per week. Nothing like election year politicking....

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 07:17 PM (ojnk6)

105 Some day he hopes to move to Utah and have a 12 car garage.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 12, 2014 07:17 PM (ZshNr)

106 "All those dickheads with their heads down looking at their phones or ipads or whatthefuckever are the slowest dumbest wildebeest in the herd. They're a predators meal waiting to happen."

Hipster douchebags all over San Francisco routinely get rabbit punched by feral teens from the projects, who then take the phone plus any wallets/purses on hand.

The hipsters never see it coming, because they're head down in the device the whole goddamn time, as they walk down the sidewalk.

The projects population are reputed to call these hipsters "Apple trees", as 90% of those thus targeted are carrying various glossy iShit.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 07:17 PM (gqT4g)

107 Yeah that south park everything is shit episode is the only episode of south park that made me cry.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 12, 2014 07:18 PM (RZ8pf)

108 Would you like to touch my Meineke?

Posted by: Dieter, from Sprockets at March 12, 2014 07:18 PM (g4TxM)

109 From the caveman circus page with the mug shot honeys, "would you hit it" plus sized model. http://tinyurl.com/k8cmx8m Now I think she may be a tad over plus sized, maybe multiplied sized but ... Oh who am I kidding, I'm in.

Posted by: traye at March 12, 2014 07:18 PM (PZeh4)

110 Wait until 'Vanilla' gobbles no. 3 cylinder.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 12, 2014 07:18 PM (aDwsi)

111 Where's Peaches tonight? I found a song & bookmarked it for her..m

Posted by: shredded chi at March 12, 2014 07:18 PM (HYcaA)

112 Woof I smell what you're steppin in. Like that everywhere you go anymore. Fuckin rediculus.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 12, 2014 07:19 PM (Q8vlx)

113
   Forecast was for 3-5" tonite--that was 8" ago.

   We already have 2' laying around this shot looks to leave about 18" by the end of the fun.

    Plus the wind is really howling.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 12, 2014 07:19 PM (SAMxH)

114 From the teacher article: I spent a little over a year earning a master of arts in teaching degree. Then I spent two years teaching English Language Arts in a rural public high school. And I learned that my 13 years as a public school student, my 4 years as a college student at a highly selective college, and even a great deal of my year as a masterÂ’s degree student in the education school of a flagship public university hadnÂ’t taught me how to manage a classroom, how to reach students, how to inspire a love of learning, how to teach. Eighteen years as a student (and a year of preschool before that), and I didnÂ’t know anything about teaching. Only years of practicing my skills and honing my skills would have rendered me a true professional. An expert. Someone who knows about the business of inspiring children. Of reaching students. Of making a difference. Of teaching. So, what she's saying is that even the best, most experienced teachers didn't teach her jack shit? Do I understand her correctly? Because, if I do, it seems she has completely unraveled her own argument, and quite early on at that.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 07:19 PM (DmNpO)

115 I think the only flight that was never found was between South Africa and Singapore.

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 07:20 PM (Aqvh6)

116 Apple Trees , oh man , that's perfect . Oughta' wear a sign on their backs . Take my shit , and go ahead and kick my ass while you're at it .

Posted by: awkward davies at March 12, 2014 07:21 PM (whqez)

117 Well Mike the #3 cylinder in pre-dog house fan shroud VW Beetle engines would overheat because the oil cooler sat atop that cylinder.  So the #3 was always a bit retarded to prevent overheating.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 12, 2014 07:21 PM (23VXG)

118 Charge(s): Underage consumption ---------------- "Doc..., she was fifteen going on thirty-five.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 12, 2014 07:21 PM (aDwsi)

119 113 NDH, I think you read her perfectly clearly, but the ironic thing is that she would not understand or accept that she knee capped her own argument.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 07:21 PM (ojnk6)

120 108 From the caveman circus page with the mug shot honeys, "would you hit it" plus sized model.  http://tinyurl.com/k8cmx8m  Now I think she may be a tad over plus sized, maybe multiplied sized but ...  Oh who am I kidding, I'm in. Posted by: traye at March 12, 2014 11:18 PM (PZeh4 --------------- Screen door. Hurricane. Hell, I've got a crush on Adele.

Posted by: shredded chi at March 12, 2014 07:21 PM (HYcaA)

121 I'm glad someone else mentioned hipsters, 'cause I have a question. Can any of you hear the word 'hipster' without automatically adding the modifier 'dufus'? Is there such a thing as a non-dufus hipster? If so can you give me a real world example? (OK, so technically that was 3 questions. Sue me.)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2014 07:22 PM (g4TxM)

122 >>>Where's Peaches tonight?



Enjoying Revis Island.

Posted by: Darrelle Revis at March 12, 2014 07:22 PM (HBDnk)

123 So, what she's saying is that even the best, most experienced teachers didn't teach her jack shit?

This is why I was cynical about "charter schools!" in an earlier thread (having seen what their students are doing as coursework here in Denver).

It's not about "charter schools!". What are they actually teaching in those "charter schools!"?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 12, 2014 07:22 PM (30eLQ)

124 I've been reading The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.  The parallels to the world of today are pretty unsettling.  Things fall apart, the center cannot hold, and what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Washington to be born. 

It's a lot like many years ago when I read The Stand, and every time I coughed I'd think, Uh oh.

Posted by: Null at March 12, 2014 07:22 PM (xjpRj)

125 If I had a faulty siemens injector I wouldn't get it fixed anywhere in eastern Europe. Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2014 11:15 PM --------------------------------------------------- Ve invented Siemens. If you do not believe...JUST ASK. Ve vill tell you.

Posted by: De Germans at March 12, 2014 07:22 PM (DtNNC)

126 Vanilla is good, don't get me wrong, but once you go Chocolate...

Posted by: eman at March 12, 2014 07:22 PM (AO9UG)

127 Some day he hopes to move to Utah and have a 12 car garage. Posted by: Lincolntf at March 12, 2014 11:17 PM (ZshNr) *** Well played!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2014 07:23 PM (g4TxM)

128 You don,t know the true meaning of "Leather Interior" until...you know....

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 12, 2014 07:24 PM (ZshNr)

129 Or on the outs with the CT Mafia.

lol. You got me curious, so I just read 4 pages on the history of the CT mafia.

I'd ask you if there's anything you need to know about them, but you would probably take that as an invitation to come up with some obscure trivia kind of query.


Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 07:24 PM (IN7k+)

130
   I use the term asshole as a modifier.

   There is no such animal as a non asshole hipster.

   No such being has yet been discovered.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 12, 2014 07:25 PM (SAMxH)

131 Hogan's Heroe's fuck I'm old. Posted by: Chavez ---------------- Howdy Doody is old, man...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 12, 2014 07:25 PM (aDwsi)

132 Avs lead the Blackhawks 2 to 1 starting the 3rd half.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2014 07:25 PM (g4TxM)

133
Some day he hopes to move to Utah and have a 12 car garage.
Posted by: Lincolntf





On some days he takes the subway.

The tramp.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 12, 2014 07:26 PM (kdS6q)

134 Later allstillgot to go to work in the AM.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 12, 2014 07:26 PM (Q8vlx)

135 >>>So the #3 was always a bit retarded to prevent overheating.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 12, 2014 11:21 PM (23VXG)



I was going to say that shit.

Posted by: Rachel Jeantel at March 12, 2014 07:26 PM (HBDnk)

136 I wish I had a more incomplete knowledge of snow... this whole "the planet is warming, therefore more snow" argument is wearing thin with me It dawned on me, whilst I was shoveling the recent 7" of snow off the driveway this evening, that no global warnening activist ever seeks a global warmening petition signature from someone shoveling snow. Just sayin'

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 07:27 PM (JMmQ9)

137 Adios Chavez TH.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 07:27 PM (ojnk6)

138 'Night Chavez

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 12, 2014 07:27 PM (aDwsi)

139
    Goodnite,good people.     Stay safe.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 12, 2014 07:27 PM (SAMxH)

140 So, what she's saying is that even the best, most experienced teachers didn't teach her jack shit?

Do I understand her correctly? Because, if I do, it seems she has completely unraveled her own argument, and quite early on at that.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 11:19 PM (DmNpO)


No I think she's saying that the best, most experienced teachers didn't teach her how to be an effective teacher. Which is almost certainly true since that's not the purpose of school unless you're studying education, and graduate classes in education are notoriously worthless at teaching practical teaching skills.

Posted by: Mætenloch at March 12, 2014 07:27 PM (XkotV)

141 Obama's 'justice' department dithers while Feinstein smears Obama's CIA in the news media.
FIFY.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 10:56 PM (IN7k+)


I don't really see it as Obama's CIA because I don't think he really cares. DOJ, on the other hand, is important to him because he can direct Holder to persecute political enemies and protect political allies.


Panetta was reported to be a Hillary person, and if true, that would make the CIA an enemy of Obama. Especially since Feinstein is accusing the agency of 'spying'. Obama as nominal leader of the democrat party could shut that down if he wanted. Since he hasn't, I hold to my conclusion; Obama and Feinstein are trying to castrate the CIA.

Posted by: Stunted Fir Polar Bear Ranch at March 12, 2014 07:28 PM (7OIjL)

142 It dawned on me, whilst I was shoveling the recent 7" of snow off the driveway this evening, that no global warnening activist ever seeks a global warmening petition signature from someone shoveling snow. Just sayin' Posted by: Alton ------------------------ No coal plant protestors around during a power outage.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 12, 2014 07:28 PM (aDwsi)

143 Ukraine America isn't a country: it's a Frankenstein monster composed of pieces of dead empires, stitched together by Stalin upity, Puritans what don't know their place. Fixed with historical reference. I've liked Spengler's previous stuff but in this he's just too conspicuously cynical for believability's sake. Not unlike a handful of idiosyncratic righties these days.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 07:28 PM (PaW7t)

144 Hasta mañana, Chavez.

Posted by: shredded chi at March 12, 2014 07:28 PM (HYcaA)

145 Dewey Crowe unchained!!!

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at March 12, 2014 07:28 PM (79AXR)

146 "Only years of practicing my skills and honing my skills would have rendered me a true professional. An expert. Someone who knows about the business of inspiring children. Of reaching students. Of making a difference. Of teaching."

Utter emotive bullshit, of course.

What it comes down to is a generically incapable individual suddenly realizing a specific case of their own incapacity.

I've had many conversations about "best teachers" who people recall from their own lives, and many times said teachers were ones with little or no previous experience in teaching. Or in "reaching" or in "inspiring".

An incredible number of old time military service members have said that military technical training school had the highest quality teachers. Teachers? Sure. They would be called "instructors", but they're teachers in all but name. They're educating young adults, and they're certainly not professors. They're often just technical sergeants with not much more than a high school degree to their own name.

But, those technical school teachers had certain incentives to convey the information efficiently. Such as being sent off to man some godawful Arctic Circle radar station if they failed to perform. And they had certain advantages, such as being able to administer genuinely painful discipline to goldbricking pupils.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 07:29 PM (gqT4g)

147 'Night IG. Stay warm.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 12, 2014 07:29 PM (aDwsi)

148 Speaking of power outage what was up in DC tonight? Did they forget to pay the electric bill for the Capitol?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 12, 2014 07:29 PM (RZ8pf)

149 It's all obama's. And that should terrify us all.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 07:29 PM (IW1TI)

150 Ah, justice. Let's hope. George Zimmerman's parents are suing Roseann Barr for tweeting their home address last year. http://tinyurl.com/lnyav8u

Posted by: Jen at March 12, 2014 07:29 PM (JqB3t)

151 So , that Bob Crane was kind of a freak , eh ? Or the anonymous author of the official male morons guidebook ?

Posted by: awkward davies at March 12, 2014 07:29 PM (whqez)

152 And if that doesn't, it will when it's all hitlery clinton's.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 07:30 PM (IW1TI)

153 No I think she's saying that the best, most experienced teachers didn't teach her how to be an effective teacher. Which is almost certainly true since that's not the purpose of school unless you're studying education, and graduate classes in education are notoriously worthless at teaching practical teaching skills. *** She was studying to be a teacher and they did not teach her how to teach.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 07:30 PM (DmNpO)

154 Man card is so revoked

http://oopsmile.com/bikers-like-hello-kitty-too/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 12, 2014 07:30 PM (23VXG)

155 And they had certain advantages, such as being able to administer genuinely painful discipline to goldbricking pupils. ---------- Important point there. Also; fall out of your class, or do poorly, and there were other MOS's waiting for you..., some not-so-fun.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 12, 2014 07:31 PM (aDwsi)

156 149 May they soak that leftist sow for millions.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 07:31 PM (ojnk6)

157 George Zimmerman's parents are suing Roseann Barr for tweeting their home address last year.

That's a lot of missing ice-creams from their fridge

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 12, 2014 07:33 PM (30eLQ)

158 >>Of reaching students. Of making a difference. Of teaching. Do I understand her correctly? Because, if I do, it seems she has completely unraveled her own argument, and quite early on at that. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse In the least, she obviously forgot the requirements for a complete sentence.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 07:33 PM (PaW7t)

159 I ain't fallin for no banana in my tailpipe!

Posted by: The VW at March 12, 2014 07:33 PM (79AXR)

160 Night Chavez

Posted by: NCwoof at March 12, 2014 07:33 PM (aUQgu)

161 hitlery clinton will be just as bad and rotten as obama, or worse. The only bright side to hitlery in the White House is that she'll take out most of her anger on her husband rather than her subjects. The very first thing hillary will do the day after she wins in 2016 is serve Bill with papers. Then soon into her lifelong term, she'll have her FBI and CIA goons torture and kill Bill Clinton. Who knows, maybe she'll be a new woman after that.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 07:34 PM (IW1TI)

162 Where is AlextheChick, this one is so for her.

http://oopsmile.com/someone-likes-sharks-too-much/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 12, 2014 07:34 PM (23VXG)

163 116 Well Mike the #3 cylinder in pre-dog house fan shroud VW Beetle engines would overheat because the oil cooler sat atop that cylinder. So the #3 was always a bit retarded to prevent overheating. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 12, 2014 11:21 PM -------------------------------------------------------------- So when my teachers told me not to get "overheated", they were trying to break it to me gently? I KNEW no one else was licking those windows.

Posted by: irright at March 12, 2014 07:35 PM (DtNNC)

164 I'm glad someone else mentioned hipsters, 'cause I have a question. Can any of you hear the word 'hipster' without automatically adding the modifier 'dufus'? Is there such a thing as a non-dufus hipster? If so can you give me a real world example?


(OK, so technically that was 3 questions. Sue me.)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2014 11:22 PM (g4TxM)



None exist. Its impossible to mention the word hipster without thinking of things like the first new hood ornament on lord Humungus's car when the balloon goes up

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2014 07:35 PM (FMbng)

165 It's a lot like many years ago when I read The Stand, and every time I coughed I'd think, Uh oh. Posted by: Null at March 12, 2014 11:22 PM The Stand is quite possibly King's bestest work. I slept with the lights on for weeks after reading it. Reading One Second After thirty some-odd years later; I knew all the plot twists before they happened. Both books are excellent reads.

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 07:36 PM (JMmQ9)

166 If anyone saw "the Americans" tonite, was that a new version of the Peter Gabriel song "Here comes the flood" played at the end, or an 80's version? Trivia obsessed minds want to know. Such a sad song.

Posted by: Goldilocks at March 12, 2014 07:36 PM (OQbOG)

167 So the bitchy teen that sued her parents for college money returned home. I figure they'll get a reality show.

Posted by: NCKate at March 12, 2014 07:37 PM (y7PFk)

168 I just preordered! Sharyl Attkisson ‏@SharylAttkisson Mar 11 The book may be out in Nov. but it's not written yet so that could slide. If interested, u can pre-order at http://t.co/vuSFzz3Cvp or others

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 07:37 PM (DmNpO)

169 I strongly suspect the main reason that stupid girl is back home with her stupid mouth shut is that people started asking questions about her lawyer who she also happened to be living with. He said to her, I imagine, it's time to go and do me a favor, lose my number.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 07:39 PM (IW1TI)

170 Jeff B will be here soon to school us on Peter Gabriel 3... 2... 1...

Oh hell, I'll stand in for him. "Melt". Stop what you are doing now if you haven't heard that album.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 12, 2014 07:39 PM (30eLQ)

171 That Yulia Tymoshenko has some great skin and hair, even if she isn't very nice. It would be fun to see her in the bad girls lineup with that drunk movie star what's-her-name. ... speaking of which, .. why don't those kinds of girls ever do larceny with me?! I'm ready for a little larceny right now!

Posted by: and irresolute at March 12, 2014 07:39 PM (RqHWH)

172 166 So the bitchy teen that sued her parents for college money returned home. I figure they'll get a reality show. ------------------------------------- Probably a producer set it up.

Posted by: irright at March 12, 2014 07:39 PM (DtNNC)

173 Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 11:29 PM (gqT4g)

Yeah teaching is not that hard. It's a skill like any other which means that experience and practice ultimately determine how good you are. Some people are naturally charismatic or great at explaining things and they'll become better sooner and maybe even make it to the top 5% of all teachers. But it's not like teaching is some magical gift that only a special few can do.

Posted by: Mætenloch at March 12, 2014 07:39 PM (XkotV)

174 So the bitchy teen that sued her parents for college money returned home. I figure they'll get a reality show. Posted by: NCKate at March 12, 2014 11:37 PM Daddy's home, now.

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 07:40 PM (JMmQ9)

175 " an area that has a lower socioeconomic status than the rest of the city and a higher crime rate." Kids, this is a part of America we don't see everyday. BANG!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhh !!! Roll em up!

Posted by: RWC at March 12, 2014 07:40 PM (MtC8f)

176 In the least, she obviously forgot the requirements for a complete sentence. *** heh

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 07:40 PM (DmNpO)

177 Urban environments is exactly where you need situational awareness, of course.
When I (increasingly rarely) take public transit I look around and I am the only guy looking around, without ear buds, or my retinas locked on a touch screen.

Occasionally I see another similar human. Our eyes meet. We smile in acknowledgement.

Posted by: navybrat at March 12, 2014 07:40 PM (AW7Gr)

178 166 So the bitchy teen that sued her parents for college money returned home. I figure they'll get a reality show. Posted by: NCKate at March 12, 2014 11:37 PM (y7PFk) Maybe pushed her inevitable leap into pron by two years maybe.

Posted by: RWC at March 12, 2014 07:41 PM (MtC8f)

179 So, what she's saying is that even the best, most experienced teachers didn't teach her jack shit?  Do I understand her correctly? Because, if I do, it seems she has completely unraveled her own argument, and quite early on at that. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 11:19 PM (DmNpO) -------------- Honestly, to me it just sounds like more whining from a sniveling, entitled leftist - just like that ass from the morning thread

Posted by: shredded chi at March 12, 2014 07:41 PM (HYcaA)

180 Captain Trips! hack-cough-sneeze! yikes!

Posted by: and irresolute at March 12, 2014 07:42 PM (RqHWH)

181 Shitballs it's windy. AGW?!?

Posted by: RWC at March 12, 2014 07:42 PM (MtC8f)

182 "Here Comes The Flood" is good. Although there are a lot of songs like it: Love and Rockets, "Waiting for the Flood"; Tears for Fears, "I Believe" (actually quite a lot of Tears for Fears); Dire Straits, "Romeo and Juliet" . . .

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 12, 2014 07:42 PM (30eLQ)

183 RWC - I forget, where are you?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 12, 2014 07:43 PM (aDwsi)

184 >>>Then soon into her lifelong term, she'll have her FBI and CIA goons torture and kill Bill Clinton. Who knows, maybe she'll be a new woman after that. ----------- Why no Mr. Bill. I expect you to die.

Posted by: Hillfinger at March 12, 2014 07:43 PM (nzhKN)

185 I think people don't know how to be alone with their thoughts anymore. It is scary to see the glassy eyed pseudo zombies around us.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 12, 2014 07:43 PM (RZ8pf)

186 169 Jeff B will be here soon to school us on Peter Gabriel 3... 2... 1... Oh hell, I'll stand in for him. "Melt". Stop what you are doing now if you haven't heard that album. Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 12, 2014 11:39 PM ----------------------------------------------- If you picture Jeff B in your head, does anyone else see Christian Bale in American Psycho?

Posted by: irright at March 12, 2014 07:43 PM (DtNNC)

187 176 In a Knockout Game era, apparently ignored by DOJ under Holder, the only way to go. I never use public transportation, but it would take a lot for me to take my eyes off of others.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 07:44 PM (ojnk6)

188 Thanks for the P Gabriel info, will look into "Melt", love him.

Posted by: Goldilocks at March 12, 2014 07:44 PM (OQbOG)

189 168    soothsayer

------------------------------------

Seems it was becoming clear that her 'friend's'
father (lawyer) and said 18 yo plaintiff were very 'close'.

Posted by: NCwoof at March 12, 2014 07:44 PM (aUQgu)

190 Teacher is not a skill that can be specialized and taught. It is also not something that happens in a specialized location. I am currently a teacher. I have 30+ years experience in my job. I am teaching my younger coworkers every day just like the guys and gals I worked with did for me. And 90% of what I have learned in my field happened on the job. School teaches us the language of our future job so we are ready to learn from the people that actually do that job. When schools focus on BS instead of language they cheat their students. And I see how much these young kids have been cheated today.

Posted by: Dendritic at March 12, 2014 07:44 PM (Fi+kS)

191

Well this will be fitting tonight.

 

Rodney Carrington - Getting Married to My Pickup Truck.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE2qN7A7Fk0

Posted by: buzzion at March 12, 2014 07:45 PM (LI48c)

192 Everyone here remembers watching BOSOM BUDDIES when they were kids, right?

Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 07:45 PM (IW1TI)

193 If you picture Jeff B in your head, does anyone else see Christian Bale in American Psycho? Posted by: irright No.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 07:45 PM (PaW7t)

194 She was studying to be a teacher and they did not teach her how to teach.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 11:30 PM (DmNpO)


Like I said graduate studies in education are pretty much worthless when it comes to teaching the nuts and bolts of classroom teaching. Friends I've known who have gotten a masters in Education to get certified universally say they learned vastly more in six weeks of student teaching with a mentor than they did in two years of graduate classes.

Posted by: Mætenloch at March 12, 2014 07:46 PM (XkotV)

195 Yet More College Leftists Threatening Physical Action It has been previously noted that the University of Michigan Black Student Union threatened “physical action” unless their “more-Left-than-Academics” demands were met, and how the university caved. It turns out this was the first of many such threats of “physical action” unless demands are met. More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=5179

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 12, 2014 07:46 PM (AymDN)

196 When schools focus on BS instead of language they cheat their students. And I see how much these young kids have been cheated today. *** It's sad and it must be frustrating.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 07:46 PM (DmNpO)

197 182 RWC - I forget, where are you? Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 12, 2014 11:43 PM (aDwsi) 20 miles south of DC. Hoodbridge. The wind flung a thick glass ashtray about 8 feet. And this was behind screening.

Posted by: RWC at March 12, 2014 07:46 PM (MtC8f)

198 And not to beat the dead horse TOO badly, but:

"Someone who knows about the business of inspiring children. Of reaching students."

My second grade homeroom teacher was a harridan. A battleax. And she certainly reached me. With her hand reaching down and gripping my ear with the power of a hundred-ton hydraulic press and hauling me upright out of my seat. Ow ow ow!

Once in that position, did she then "inspire" me? With a joy of learning?

Shit, no.

She instead filled me with a pure abject terror of FAILING TO LEARN.

Because if I didn't learn, I would not be able to answer when called upon, and I would be hauled out of my seat again and verbally humiliated in front of the class. As would happen to any of my other classmates if they failed.

Today's pedagogy views such methods as horribly abusive. They say it will crush the spirits of the delicate flowers of childhood.

Except that today's pedagogy routinely turns out a noticeable percentage of _high school graduates_ who perform at a lower level academically than did my second grade homeroom by the end of the year. And every single one of us, crushed spirits or not, performed up to the requisite specification. Or else.

Funny thing, also. No "learning disabilities" in evidence in that second grade homeroom. Not a one.

That stuff just came along all of a sudden a few years later. Right as modern pedagogy came in, and the insensitive old harridans were sent off to retirement, replaced with sensitive and caring new educational specialists armed with the latest theories from grad school. "New math". "Whole word reading." "Ebonics".

Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 07:46 PM (gqT4g)

199 According to CNN's White House correspondent, the White House believes that Putin has a lot to lose in this situation and is looking for a face saving move. Do they really believe that?

Posted by: Adam at March 12, 2014 07:46 PM (Aif/5)

200 180 Shitballs it's windy. ----------- I know, right? Where are you? Va. I think? NoVa? I'm down here at the beach, but it's blowing like Sydney Leathers out there

Posted by: shredded chi at March 12, 2014 07:47 PM (HYcaA)

201 NFL on ESPN ‏@ESPNNFL now BREAKING: The Jets have signed former Broncos WR Eric Decker to a 5-year, $36.25M deal.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 07:47 PM (DmNpO)

202 I think you guys will get a kick out of this. Wacky comedians re-create the opening theme to Bosom Buddies. It's pretty funny in a weird retro way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvMvqrcqNcU

Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 07:48 PM (IW1TI)

203 Panetta was reported to be a Hillary person, and if true, that would make the CIA an enemy of Obama. Especially since Feinstein is accusing the agency of 'spying'. Obama as nominal leader of the democrat party could shut that down if he wanted. Since he hasn't, I hold to my conclusion; Obama and Feinstein are trying to castrate the CIA.

The CIA has no business spying on senators. If they did do that, it should be exposed. Heads should roll, publicly.

Panetta worked for Obama when he was at CIA, he still works for him now that is is SecDef. You really think that Obama would promote someone to to that position if that person was disloyal to Obama. The CIA is under the control of the president, and Obama is responsible for all that it does. Including when they illegally spy on members of the legislative branch.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 07:48 PM (IN7k+)

204 184 I think people don't know how to be alone with their thoughts anymore. It is scary to see the glassy eyed pseudo zombies around us. Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 12, 2014 11:43 PM (RZ8pf) What do you mean? The smart phine zombie who are just asking to be a victim?

Posted by: RWC at March 12, 2014 07:48 PM (MtC8f)

205 I mean, unless yous have other important stuff to do at the moment, of course.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 07:48 PM (IW1TI)

206 198 According to CNN's White House correspondent, the White House believes that Putin has a lot to lose in this situation and is looking for a face saving move. -------------- Hitler made a big mistake invading France. We'll just wait until he realizes if and orders his troops to turn around.

Posted by: Bizarro World Winston Churchill at March 12, 2014 07:49 PM (nzhKN)

207 In a Knockout Game era, apparently ignored by DOJ under Holder, the only way to go. I never use public transportation, but it would take a lot for me to take my eyes off of others. I don't leave the house un-armed Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 11:44 PM FIFY

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 07:49 PM (JMmQ9)

208 I don't need you to worry for me, cause I'm all right. I don't want you to tell me it's time to come home. Loved that show.

Posted by: irright at March 12, 2014 07:49 PM (DtNNC)

209 According to CNN's White House correspondent, the White House believes that Putin has a lot to lose in this situation and is looking for a face saving move. Do they really believe that? *** Yeah, well a month ago Obama said that Putin didn't really disrespect him, that it was just his "schtick" to act tough for his people. Obama knows about face-saving bullshit but, in this case, he's wrong.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 07:49 PM (DmNpO)

210 "Its impossible to mention the word hipster without thinking of things like the first new hood ornament on lord Humungus's car when the balloon goes up"

Hey! Not fair!

I just wanted to offer them some hot chocolate!

Posted by: Pajama Boy at March 12, 2014 07:49 PM (gqT4g)

211 Um, when obama won the nom in 2008, the clintons and their minions became property of obama. obama OWNS hillary and bill.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 07:50 PM (IW1TI)

212 Yeah, this was a pretty good time tonight ... but it won't last.

Posted by: cynical asshole at March 12, 2014 07:51 PM (RqHWH)

213 >>>Panetta worked for Obama when he was at CIA, he still works for him now that is is SecDef.



I know many here don't want to admit it, but I'm actually Sec Def.

Posted by: Chuck Hagel at March 12, 2014 07:51 PM (HBDnk)

214 198 No Adam, it's the usual knob gobbling in favor of their Boy King, who Putin knows will do nothing outside of blathering about it. The World is aware that we are now not gonna do anything but talk and bluster. That makes this World a very dangerous place.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 07:52 PM (ojnk6)

215 Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 11:48 PM (IN7k+)

The CIA wasn't 'spying' on senators. Read the washington post story linked on Drudge. The agency was trying to track sensitive documents the senate committee staffers took. In other words, the agency was trying to protect sensitive information that Feinstein wanted to leak.

It's a five year long witch hunt first started to hang GWBush who is no longer in public office, and it has now turned into a vendetta against the CIA.

Posted by: Stunted Fir Polar Bear Ranch at March 12, 2014 07:52 PM (7OIjL)

216 Holy moly. Just cruised by "my 600 pound life" on tlc and this woman had 40 pounds of excess skin removed. They showed her naked. I may not be hungry for a week.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 12, 2014 07:52 PM (RZ8pf)

217 Avs up 3-1 over 'Hawks with ~6:00 left in the game. The Avs continue to play some really good hockey. A win here and they will pass Chicago in the standings. Did I mention that the Blackhawks are the defending Stanley Cup champs?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2014 07:52 PM (g4TxM)

218 And what's funny is that earlier on CNN international they were talking to a reporter in Moscow about how Putin has massive public support for what he's doing.

Posted by: Adam at March 12, 2014 07:52 PM (Aif/5)

219 Who was the other guy? Tom Hanks I get; the other guy I don't remember. Was he on the second Bob Newhart series?

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 07:52 PM (JMmQ9)

220 Evening morons-- another day of errands down.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at March 12, 2014 07:53 PM (R+XDI)

221 Alton Peter Scolari

Posted by: shredded chi at March 12, 2014 07:54 PM (HYcaA)

222 Yeah, Peter Scolari was also on NEWHART. Peter Scolari now plays Lena Dunham's professor father on Girls. And, yeah, he showed his wang in the first episode. It really is a stupid and pointlessly crude show.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 07:54 PM (IW1TI)

223 I know many here don't want to admit it, but I'm actually Sec Def. Posted by: Chuck Hagel I think, if I get the timeline straight, is that the 'spying' was in 2010, when the staffers had access to the special terminals for researching requested material on TEH EVIL BOOOOSH. Or no?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 07:54 PM (PaW7t)

224 I guess DUI is the only thing hot chicks can't get out of, that or they just got done at the club and have makeup caked on.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 12, 2014 07:54 PM (WdbF7)

225 Evening CCrank. How's the combat zone?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2014 07:54 PM (g4TxM)

226 Every time I close my eyes I see her big blobs of skin hanging down. I may scratch my eyes out.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 12, 2014 07:55 PM (RZ8pf)

227 Is the car fucker a teacher?

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 12, 2014 07:55 PM (hb4yz)

228 The only bright side to hitlery in the White House is that she'll take out most of her anger on her husband rather than her subjects.

The very first thing hillary will do the day after she wins in 2016 is serve Bill with papers.

Then soon into her lifelong term, she'll have her FBI and CIA goons torture and kill Bill Clinton. Who knows, maybe she'll be a new woman after that.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 11:34 PM (IW1TI)



If we get Jeb Bush as an "electable" candidate, I'd vote for Rodham if I was sure the last paragraph would happen.  I'd even volunteer to help carry that out, gratis.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 12, 2014 07:55 PM (YbFCe)

229 Truth be told, I wouldn't quite call that a "wang."

Posted by: Tom Hanks at March 12, 2014 07:55 PM (nzhKN)

230 212 >>>Panetta worked for Obama when he was at CIA, he still works for him now that is is SecDef.



I know many here don't want to admit it, but I'm actually Sec Def.

Posted by: Chuck Hagel at March 12, 2014 11:51 PM (HBDnk)

****

Ack! You're right. I blocked it out that Hagel (spit) took over the position.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 07:55 PM (IN7k+)

231 This needs to be installed in all federal buildings in DC

http://oopsmile.com/epic-elevator-prank/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 12, 2014 07:55 PM (23VXG)

232 206 I feel ya Alton, and as I live in a free state, I share and duplicate your view and attitude. I pack at all times.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 07:56 PM (ojnk6)

233 Peter Scolari Posted by: shredded chi at March 12, 2014 11:54 PM TYVM Was he on the second Newhart show (New England B & B, not Chicago psychologist)?

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 07:57 PM (JMmQ9)

234 I wonder how many people have died from having sex with cars just since that plane disappeared ... a lot, I bet. (does that qualify as being a cynical asshole? ... probably not ..)

Posted by: and irresolute at March 12, 2014 07:57 PM (RqHWH)

235 PGIS, bet she had some serious bat wings.

Posted by: NCKate at March 12, 2014 07:58 PM (y7PFk)

236 earlier on CNN international they were talking to a reporter in Moscow about how Putin has massive public support for what he's doing.

Machiavelli had some comments about this. He said that while/if the Prince is winning, all his subjects will be unanimously supportive of him. Pootypoot just snagged the Crimea for Russia.

Of course Putin is popular amongst ethnic Russians. Just like an American President would be popular amongst us if he'd annexed Baja California and Barbados without a war and without any real local opposition. Fuck, dude, cheap winter vacations.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 12, 2014 07:58 PM (30eLQ)

237 obama is at least smart enough not to go full dictator. hillary clinton will be such a power-crazed maniac, she'll not only be the first woman president, she'll be the first overthrown U.S. president.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 07:58 PM (IW1TI)

238 Rick Reilly done writing columns, this is truly a great day.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 12, 2014 07:58 PM (WdbF7)

239 I wonder how many people have died from having sex with cars just since that plane disappeared *** I'm sure there have been some who died of auto-asphyxiation.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2014 07:58 PM (g4TxM)

240 pretty good Heaven's Lost Property statue

http://bit.ly/1lYrm6f

Posted by: The Dude at March 12, 2014 07:58 PM (bStrg)

241 So if I strap a fake BMW shell to my '05 Neon I'll be hip deep in nearsighted women? So simple ....

Posted by: cryptocon at March 12, 2014 07:58 PM (cgWjy)

242 Finally, the cat lets me have the good chair.

She does not realize that she is the last of the shelter adoptees and that by her very, um, self, she has doomed many kittens to not being adopted by me-ness.

Posted by: Null at March 12, 2014 07:58 PM (xjpRj)

243 192 If you picture Jeff B in your head, does anyone else see Christian Bale in American Psycho? Posted by: irright No. Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 12, 2014 11:45 PM ---------------------------------------------- OK. Now let me ask you this.... When you try to picture randomly anything at all in your head do you see Christian Bale in American Psycho?... because these thoughts might not be as fun-filled and frivolous as I originally believed.

Posted by: irright at March 12, 2014 07:59 PM (DtNNC)

244 NCkate that was the weird thing, it was all just on her stomach. They called it something but I can't remember what.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 12, 2014 07:59 PM (RZ8pf)

245 "http://oopsmile.com/epic-elevator-prank/"

Nothing will ever be as epic as the Brazilian "ghost girl" elevator prank.

I am completely nonsuperstitious and that would have flipped me out.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 08:00 PM (gqT4g)

246 Every time I close my eyes I see her big blobs of skin hanging down. I may scratch my eyes out.

We male morons have had Helen Thomas's grin seared, seared into our memories. So we can endure a lot.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 12, 2014 08:00 PM (30eLQ)

247 Visceral fat?

Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 08:00 PM (IW1TI)

248 "Finally, the cat lets me have the good chair."

I horked in it.

Posted by: The Cat at March 12, 2014 08:01 PM (gqT4g)

249 was I born a Cynical Asshole - no have I been a Cynical Asshole my entire adult life - no will I ever stop being a Cynical Asshole - yes, when I am free or dead.

Posted by: Shoey at March 12, 2014 08:01 PM (vA94g)

250 This is Serious, You Guys: does anyone know where Bobby Jindal falls on the 2A spectrum? Or, for the matter, where does Cruz or Paul (the younger) land on 2A?

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 08:01 PM (JMmQ9)

251 I saw the space junk laser article in the sidebar. You know who was way out in front of that? Gerry Anderson. The old UFO show had an episode where the aliens were hiding in the orbital debris and knocking down supply ships to the moon base. Straker gave a pretty good explanation of the dangers of orbital pollution and had SHADOW set up a salvage detail. Pretty impressive looking ahead for a cheesy 1970 sci-fi series.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at March 12, 2014 08:01 PM (5REbo)

252 I've had many cynical friends over the years. Those friends are funny when you're in your early 20s, but as time marches on that cynicism and negativity tends to wear on a friendship. If you have too many of these types in your social circle, it's hard to kick the habit of being cynical all the time. Yep, I sure do recognize that. In my case it was friends who were more nihilistic than cynical. Upon hearing news of a disaster, their first impulse was to crack jokes about it. They were unable to take anything seriously. I eventually tired of them and moved on.

Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2014 08:02 PM (sdi6R)

253 Lymph edema

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 12, 2014 08:02 PM (RZ8pf)

254 Chicago scores after pulling their goalie with 2:00 left, now 3-2 Avs, empty net at the Chicago end.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2014 08:03 PM (g4TxM)

255 Pootypoot just snagged the Crimea for Russia. ___ Nein, he is de losing vig time. Trust me on dis, we know all zee form you need to get von zee UN now to take land von you neighbors.

Posted by: Angela Merkel at March 12, 2014 08:03 PM (M3hAT)

256 I'm sure there have been some who died of auto-asphyxiation. Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2014 11:58 PM You need a drummer, on cue.

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 08:03 PM (JMmQ9)

257 219 Evening morons-- another day of errands down.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at March 12, 2014 11:53 PM (R+XDI)


Important errands we suppose

Posted by: NCwoof at March 12, 2014 08:03 PM (aUQgu)

258 So if I strap a fake BMW shell to my '05 Neon I'll be hip deep in nearsighted women? So simple ....))) Get an old VW bug and a Rolls Royce hood. You'll be swimming in it.

Posted by: Dendritic at March 12, 2014 08:05 PM (Fi+kS)

259 will I ever stop being a Cynical Asshole - yes, when I am free or dead. *** You know the odd thing? It is now crazy, according to the media-government complex, to simply want to be free. Not even wrong...but insane.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 12, 2014 08:05 PM (M3hAT)

260 >>>I think, if I get the timeline straight, is that the 'spying' was in 2010, when the staffers had access to the special terminals for researching requested material on TEH EVIL BOOOOSH.


Right. And Panetta would've been SCOAMF's CIA Director when it happened.

Panetta, who we were told, though having know intelligence experience, and was a political hack previously, would be wonderful as head of the CIA. Might as well've just appointed Sandy Berger.

But, anyway, was just reminding that he is not Sec Def now, unfortunately Hagel the Horrible is.

Posted by: Chuck Hagel at March 12, 2014 08:05 PM (HBDnk)

261 Every time I close my eyes I see her big blobs of skin hanging down. I may scratch my eyes out.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 12, 2014 11:55 PM (RZ8pf)



Scarred for life eh?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2014 08:06 PM (FMbng)

262 225 Every time I close my eyes I see her big blobs of skin hanging down. I may scratch my eyes out. Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 12, 2014 11:55 PM (RZ8pf) And really, thank you for sharing your nightmare with us. (If it's the show I am thinking of, the hubby loves her like that and encourages her to stay huge. )

Posted by: RWC at March 12, 2014 08:06 PM (MtC8f)

263 Auto erotica?

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 12, 2014 08:07 PM (hb4yz)

264 So if you get feminists talking about hypergamy, what do they tend to say? Other then a stream of insults. Obviously this was pretty well understood by *everyone* from the dawn of history until the 1970s or so...but it seems like your average feminist's knowledge of history is what you can get from reading the cliff notes of Zinn's book...

Posted by: 18-1 at March 12, 2014 08:07 PM (M3hAT)

265 258 True enough. Fighting for rights is now seen as being an an enemy of The State. If only someone had been prescient enough to predict this in the 50s.....

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 08:08 PM (ojnk6)

266 Gabriel, "I don't remember" -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbxAnpog2ow

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 12, 2014 08:08 PM (30eLQ)

267 Every time I close my eyes I see her big blobs of skin hanging down. I may scratch my eyes out. Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 12, 2014 11:55 PM (RZ8pf) A little mood music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK5jyVCdXwc

Posted by: The Political Blob Hat at March 12, 2014 08:08 PM (AymDN)

268 had leftover roasted tomatoes for dinner last night. I posted it was on the verge of falling asleep. IÂ’m not sure if you saw it. Posted by: Carol at March 12, 2014 10:49 PM (gjOCp) Hide posts from (gjOCp) How were they? (I never have leftovers.) Posted by: cthulhu at March 12, 2014 10:52 PM (T1005) I donÂ’t usually eat leftovers either. I make enough for one time. They were so good I saved them & warmed in microwave for 3 1/2 minutes. IÂ’m also not a fan of microwaves. ItÂ’s the first time I used it since I bought it in July. They were delicious. I use a bit too much oil, but they arenÂ’t dry.

Posted by: Carol at March 12, 2014 08:08 PM (gjOCp)

269 "hillary clinton will be such a power-crazed maniac, she'll not only be the first woman president"

One of the few men of my acquaintance who I think actually understands women (or at least to a much higher level than does the typical male) says that if Hillary is elected, it's not going to work the way it did with Obama.

White female baby boomer media figures supported Obama quite obviously as a candidate, and their support didn't slack one bit once he was President. If anything it became even more intense and less well concealed.

Whereas, he says, white female baby boomer media figures will support Hillary right up until she's elected, and then the long knives will quietly come out from behind their backs, and the bitchy teardown will begin.

Crabs. A bucket. Some assembly required.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 08:09 PM (gqT4g)

270 Get an old VW bug and a Rolls Royce hood. You'll be swimming in it. Posted by: Dendritic at March 13, 2014 12:05 AM Do they make a conversion kit that makes a 2008 Fusion look like a 1970 Super Bird? 'Cause that's what I'm lookin' for...

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 08:09 PM (JMmQ9)

271 If only someone had been prescient enough to predict this in the 50s..... *** Well, in fairness, Orwell was only half right. The state doesn't need many jackbooted thugs a la 1984 - it has digital Soma that the populace willingly drugs itself with a la Huxley.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 12, 2014 08:10 PM (M3hAT)

272 speaking of cars, I very much enjoy Let The Good Times Roll and Moving In Stereo

Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 08:10 PM (IW1TI)

273 Many in Russia lament the loss of the old "Soviet Union" and its superpower status. Putin has spent many years perfecting his pitch as the guy who will bring back the glory days of the USSR. Of course he has support in Russia! The states of the former USSR should be very nervous right now.

Posted by: whyme at March 12, 2014 08:10 PM (l9mF2)

274 Kinkiest auto --

Mercury Grand Marquis (de Sade)

Posted by: Edward Smith (car fucker) at March 12, 2014 08:11 PM (xntvk)

275 The phone cops just crashed my desktop; blue screen of death, crashed, cold hard reboot crashed.

So I'm outa here before those big evil black MRAP and black suburbans full of FBI SWAT show up.


Posted by: Dr Johnny Fever at March 12, 2014 08:11 PM (0mp5c)

276 Do they make a conversion kit that makes a 2008 Fusion look like a 1970 Super Bird? 'Cause that's what I'm lookin' for...))) Only a brain conversion LSD.

Posted by: Dendritic at March 12, 2014 08:11 PM (Fi+kS)

277 i meant of course "no self control"

oops

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 12, 2014 08:12 PM (30eLQ)

278 Yeah, no, it will definitely not be the same with hillary as it was with obama.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 08:12 PM (IW1TI)

279 Hey The Dude if you need a cosplay pic for the next gaming thread that is old school.

http://oopsmile.com/cosplay-win-2/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 12, 2014 08:12 PM (23VXG)

280 225 Every time I close my eyes I see her big blobs of skin hanging down. I may scratch my eyes out.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 12, 2014 11:55 PM (RZ8pf)

++++

Umm, but won't that mean that your eyes will always be closed and you will always see that vision of - I won't repeat it.

Unless... that's what you're going for?


Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 08:12 PM (IN7k+)

281 Mercury Grand Marquis (de Sade) Posted by: Edward Smith (car fucker) at March 13, 2014 12:11 AM (xntvk) **** How about the Karmenage a Ghia?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2014 08:13 PM (g4TxM)

282 Or, for the matter, where does Cruz or Paul (the younger) land on 2A? Posted by: AltonJackson at March 13, 2014 12:01 AM (JMmQ9) Jindal was a key-note speaker at NRA gatherings. Cruz - During this weekÂ’s Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on proposed gun regulations, Texas Tea Party Senator Ted Cruz chose to disrespect long-serving Senator Dianne Feinstein with a completely inappropriate lecture on the Constitution That's all I need to know about Cruz. Don't know about Paul and scared to look it up.

Posted by: RWC at March 12, 2014 08:13 PM (MtC8f)

283 Wait, whut? That made no sense at all. Step away from the keyboard, Seamus.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2014 08:13 PM (g4TxM)

284 Evening, Anybody want to put their two cents in about a FNX 9mm?

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 12, 2014 08:13 PM (l3vZN)

285 Hey The Dude if you need a cosplay pic for the next gaming thread that is old school. http://oopsmile.com/cosplay-win-2/ Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2014 12:12 AM (23VXG) Ace nixed the cosplay picss *wipes tear from cheek*

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at March 12, 2014 08:14 PM (AymDN)

286 Y'all ready to suckle at the teat of Nanny State Gov't? Mmmm, so good...

Posted by: Hillary! at March 12, 2014 08:14 PM (FcR7P)

287 270 His only error was being off by 30 years. He was an optimist.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 08:15 PM (ojnk6)

288 A little mood music:

This is like how "mahna mahna" was originally composed for a Swedish pr0n.

But Dr Teeth from the Muppets owned it -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N_tupPBtWQ

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 12, 2014 08:15 PM (30eLQ)

289 274      Posted by: Dr Johnny Fever at March 13, 2014 12:11 AM (0mp5c)
_______________________________

Begging you Fever, do not let the phone cops get put you down.  Play Sam Cooke, quick.

Posted by: NCwoof at March 12, 2014 08:15 PM (aUQgu)

290 Oh yeah good point.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 12, 2014 08:15 PM (RZ8pf)

291 Is Talking the Shortest Path to War? Yes, I think it is. The less I have to with other people, the more peaceful and stress-free my life is. I don't think it's a stretch to extrapolate that to the level of nations.

Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2014 08:16 PM (sdi6R)

292 Well, that seemed like an awful lot of money to spend for a joke... Bosom Buddies was one of my favorite shows as a kid, so I watched the whole thing. I wish they spent some of the money to get a Donna Dixon cameo, though...

Posted by: shredded chi at March 12, 2014 08:16 PM (HYcaA)

293 28 If only my dick would fit in a tailpipe...

Posted by: Countrysquire at March 12, 2014 10:54 PM (8FyP4)


Dual exhaust makes me fap


Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 08:16 PM (aTXUx)

294 All that follows is from Rand Paul's website:
http://www.paul.senate.gov/?p=issue&id=16

Second Amendment

There are many in Washington who give lip service to the Second Amendment, but vote to restrict gun ownership once they begin serving in public office.  Gun control laws only restrict access to responsible gun ownership.  High risk individuals will still be able to acquire firearms even with an increase in prevention.  I do not support any proposed gun control law which would limit the right to gun ownership by those who are responsible, law-abiding citizens.

Politicians often give lip service to the 2nd Amendment but then go off to Washington and vote to restrict gun ownership. We need to send people to Washington that not only understand the 2nd amendment but the entire Bill of Rights.

How many supposed pro-gun politicians voted for the Patriot Act which gives the government the right to search your home without a warrant, when you're not home, leave listening devices, and use any and all information to create a prosecution on any charge regardless of their original reason for the search?

Gun rights advocates need to know that the 2nd amendment is only as good as the fourth amendment. If we are not free from unreasonable and warrantless searches, no one's guns are safe.

As your Senator, I plan to remain vigilant and fight against infringements on our 2nd Amendment rights.



Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 08:17 PM (IN7k+)

295 I'm thinking of taking my Navigator to a custom exhaust shop to make it into a real dual exhaust. It should be an easy job.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 08:18 PM (IW1TI)

296 I don't get the fatty fetish, but to each his own. I guess.

Posted by: NCKate at March 12, 2014 08:18 PM (y7PFk)

297 all that follows is from Rand Paul's website:

apparently via the BARREL

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 12, 2014 08:18 PM (30eLQ)

298 No extra charge for the bonus gray space.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 08:18 PM (IN7k+)

299 270 Well, in fairness, Orwell was only half right. The state doesn't need many jackbooted thugs a la 1984 - it has digital Soma that the populace willingly drugs itself with a la Huxley. Posted by: 18-1 at March 13, 2014 12:10 AM (M3hAT) Fun fact: Orwell and Huxley corresponded with each other for years arguing the 'merits' of their respective dystopias.

Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2014 08:19 PM (sdi6R)

300 I bet the kitchen sink in the Barrel is stuffed by now.

Posted by: eman at March 12, 2014 08:19 PM (AO9UG)

301 I forgot to launder it though notepad when I did the copy/paste.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 08:20 PM (IN7k+)

302 Hey, Anon - look for my keys while you're in there. I think I lost them down there last time

Posted by: shredded chi at March 12, 2014 08:20 PM (HYcaA)

303 The cosplay pics got nixed?  Oh darn it.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 12, 2014 08:21 PM (23VXG)

304 There will be no cuttin' and pastin' from a Word format. Anyone caught cuttin' and pastin' from Word spends the night in The Barrel

You got questions, you come to me

Posted by: Carr the Threadwalker at March 12, 2014 08:21 PM (aTXUx)

305 Hello, beloved Horde! I admit that I have complained here about teaching (and you all have been patient and understanding ). It's not that the work is hard, it's that it's impossible. For teachers it's quite common to be saddled with a situation that is a perfect recipe for failure and then those of us who care make ourselves crazy trying to succeed anyway. It's the few bright spots of success every semester that make it worthwhile. Those teachers you see who aren't working very hard are the ones who have given up or are losers who would be just as incompetent in any other job.

Posted by: Mindy at March 12, 2014 08:21 PM (Ew9Pv)

306 298 If only they could have lived to see both of their theories validated, albeit with different dates...

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 08:21 PM (ojnk6)

307 I am just going to post this without comment -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN5Mqr6tRlw

It might help if you are from Washington State or Colorado.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 12, 2014 08:21 PM (30eLQ)

308 OK. Now let me ask you this.... When you try to picture randomly anything at all in your head do you see Christian Bale in American Psycho?... because these thoughts might not be as fun-filled and frivolous as I originally believed.

Posted by: irright at March 12, 2014 11:59 PM (DtNNC)

 

Its the scene of him banging the hookers while looking at himself in the mirror flexing his biceps isn't it.

Posted by: buzzion at March 12, 2014 08:21 PM (LI48c)

309 269       Posted by: AltonJackson at March 13, 2014 12:09 AM (JMmQ9)

=========================

May I order the Dodge Charger Daytona (winged option) please?

Posted by: NCwoof at March 12, 2014 08:22 PM (aUQgu)

310 300 I forgot to launder it though notepad when I did the copy/paste.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 13, 2014 12:20 AM


You ain't gonna be a hard case, are ya boy?

Posted by: Carr the Threadwalker at March 12, 2014 08:22 PM (aTXUx)

311 Does anyone know when President Obama will return from his vacation?  We have a lot things to do before he leaves office..

Posted by: Dorcus Blimeline at March 12, 2014 08:22 PM (iB0Q2)

312 Don't know about Paul and scared to look it up. Posted by: RWC at March 13, 2014 12:13 AM THX, RWC. I kinda knew (or at least suspected) that about Bobby and Ted; agreed on Rand; haven't heard him talk about it, if you extrapolate his views on other Constitutional issues, then he's gotta be Pro-2A, but haven't seen the rubber meet the road

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 08:22 PM (JMmQ9)

313 Perhaps Rand is starting to scare them a little Breaking News ‏@BreakingNews 11m Attorney General Eric Holder backs plan that would shorten prison sentences for non-violent drug crimes - @Politico http://politi.co/1kkApvh

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 08:23 PM (DmNpO)

314 ReutersAerospaceNews ‏@ReutersAero 3m Vietnam search finds no wreckage at location where China satellite shows possible plane debris - Reuters witness. #MH370

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 08:25 PM (DmNpO)

315 You ain't gonna be a hard case, are ya boy?

Not me, Boss. I'm just going to quietly do my time in the barrel and get my mind right.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 08:25 PM (IN7k+)

316 It's not that the work is hard, it's that it's impossible. For teachers it's quite common to be saddled with a situation that is a perfect recipe for failure and then those of us who care make ourselves crazy trying to succeed anyway.))) I will only say you are not alone in the general workplace. Crappy management is everywhere. Just more accepted in govt.

Posted by: Dendritic at March 12, 2014 08:26 PM (Fi+kS)

317 Exactly what I would have done - http://tinyurl.com/ka3q6ah

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 08:26 PM (Aqvh6)

318 most promiscuous auto --

Volkswagen Rabbit

Posted by: Edward Smith (car fucker) at March 12, 2014 08:27 PM (xntvk)

319 I never cared much for the Super Bird or Daytona Charger.. a lot of extra sheet metal to lug around with no purpose other than to be in the way

Now, a Boss 302 Mustang, Shelby Mustang GT, Camaro SS, Challenger, Cuda, and of course the 68 Olds 442, 66 Pontiac GTO, 69 Chevelle SS, or the 64-67 327 Corvette

Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 08:29 PM (aTXUx)

320 313 ReutersAerospaceNews ‏@ReutersAero 3m Vietnam search finds no wreckage at location where China satellite shows possible plane debris - Reuters witness. #MH370 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 12:25 AM (DmNpO) So they were Raptured, then?

Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2014 08:29 PM (sdi6R)

321 You ain't gonna be a hard case, are ya boy? I'm shakin' the bush, Boss.

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 08:29 PM (JMmQ9)

322 most promiscuous auto -- Volkswagen Rabbit *** The Kia Jablowme

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 08:29 PM (DmNpO)

323 fall out of your class, or do poorly, and there were other MOS's waiting for you Many years ago, during a "Career Day" at AFROTC, I heard a SP officer say that many of her people had failed out of Cooks and Bakers school. Which often meant that they had also failed out of at least one other AFSC school. And they could end up in a "camper team" parked out at a missile silo. In January. At Minot, why not?

Posted by: Fox2! at March 12, 2014 08:29 PM (cHwSy)

324 Lindsay Lohan is ruining her looks with botox. Saw a recent shot of her and her face is getting bumpy and puffy.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at March 12, 2014 08:30 PM (4Chvm)

325 313  NDH


Those Vietnamese--what jokers

Posted by: NCwoof at March 12, 2014 08:30 PM (aUQgu)

326 How come DI's can stuff 18 years of basic hygiene, manners, and about thirty volumes of dangerous training into the heads of many of those same teens in a few months?  Then not whine about, and do it again over and over without a summer break, a union, or an education degree.

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 08:30 PM (Aqvh6)

327 247 "Finally, the cat lets me have the good chair."

I horked in it.


Ah, I thought I heard the Horked-Wessel-Song...good to know at this late date...

Posted by: Null at March 12, 2014 08:30 PM (xjpRj)

328 So they were Raptured, then? *** They must have been. then again, the location of the reported debris didn't make sense. It was SE of the last known location and the reports of a u-turn were that it had turned back toward the west.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 08:31 PM (DmNpO)

329 I hate the word "horrific". It's a stupid, made-up word..

Posted by: katya the designated driver at March 12, 2014 08:32 PM (4Chvm)

330 "If you can read this, thank a teacher"

"If you can read this in English, thank a soldier"

Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 08:33 PM (aTXUx)

331 I know its late, but I'd like to ask a question of the various women and men of military service here, and I know there is a lot.
What's the consensus on Queensryche's "American Soldier" album? Its a tribute to the US armed forces, and I really, really like it. But I never have served and I don't know maybe it seems cheesy to real soldiers.
http://youtu.be/RfGAdkKuqag

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2014 08:33 PM (zfY+H)

332 >>>The Kia Jablowme

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 12:29 AM (DmNpO)<<<



I'd buy one.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 12, 2014 08:34 PM (xntvk)

333 I hate the word "horrific". It's a stupid, made-up word.. *** Yes. Made up in the 1600's

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 08:34 PM (DmNpO)

334 Yes. Made up in the 1600's

lol. I was thinking along similar lines. Difference being I was to lazy to actually go look it up.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 08:36 PM (IN7k+)

335 Dude. Wall Street Journal ‏@WSJ 4m Breaking: U.S. investigators suspect Malaysia flight 370 was airborne hours after vanishing http://on.wsj.com/O0q8sO

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 08:37 PM (DmNpO)

336 My pooner tastes like sugar

Posted by: Vallerie Jarrett at March 12, 2014 08:37 PM (5MaPI)

337 If you can read this, thank a teacher"))) Shit I didn't need a teacher for that sentence. My parents read to me and sowed me all those words before I went to school . The Soldier makes sense though.

Posted by: Dendritic at March 12, 2014 08:38 PM (Fi+kS)

338 Its the scene of him banging the hookers while looking at himself in the mirror flexing his biceps isn't it. Posted by: buzzion at March 13, 2014 12:21 AM (LI48c) -------------------------------------- While I admit, that scene was one of my favorites, now, the one I can't get out of my head is, It's Hip to be Square. To me, it's a parody of itself, shrouded by a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma... with Huey Lewis.

Posted by: irright at March 12, 2014 08:39 PM (DtNNC)

339 Does anyone where Purple Avenger disappeared to?? holy smokes, I just realized he's been gone for a while!

Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 08:39 PM (IW1TI)

340 horrific was the ginormous of its day

Posted by: Mr Know-It-All at March 12, 2014 08:39 PM (9Zci/)

341 btw, JeffB is Arnold Rimmer

Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 08:40 PM (IW1TI)

342 An airliner disappears, e-mails are deleted, data is mined, 100,000 maniac whores rule the planet while pretending they are not united in the NWO. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ_Wqtnlv4U Its all a bizarre MSM carnival and no one beyond family and close friends are to be trusted. Food, water, ammo are the best investments for what shall come to pass. Forget about Mechaphilaphobia and pay attention to what is coming down your driveway. Prepare to hit the bottom of a paper cup at 400 yards with something that carries more punch than a .223. Never surrender because surrender is ignoble and even if you surrender they will eventually hunt down and kill your grandchildren. Live free or die trying.

Posted by: dennis kucuinich at March 12, 2014 08:41 PM (hpgw1)

343 67 degrees to 15+ degrees in a day. Can ya'll burn wood or maybe spray a couple of cans of Aqua Net. Please.

Posted by: RWC at March 12, 2014 08:42 PM (MtC8f)

344 A sudden decompression or loss of cabin pressurization could have rendered the pilots (and everyone else) unconscious. Not very likely, but if that were the case the plane would have continued on its pre ordained course.

Posted by: navybrat at March 12, 2014 08:42 PM (AW7Gr)

345 NDH, I was just reading that & on WSJ app countries are fighting over lack of any concrete evidence.

Posted by: Carol at March 12, 2014 08:42 PM (gjOCp)

346 re: Malaysian Jet Mystery.

Go look at my post #55 of an Indonesian 737 that went down.  Took them nine days to even find the wreckage that was floating. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 12, 2014 08:44 PM (23VXG)

347 How come DI's can stuff 18 years of basic hygiene, manners, and about thirty volumes of dangerous training into the heads of many of those same teens in a few months? Then not whine about, and do it again over and over without a summer break, a union, or an education degree.

Because they can kick out the ones who don't want to be there and make the rest sweat and suffer when they screw up.  Teachers can do neither.  Which is part of the problem.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 12, 2014 08:44 PM (lr3d7)

348 325 --- I taught at a prison once. You'd be surprised how much more you can teach when there is strict discipline.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 12, 2014 08:44 PM (dfYL9)

349 My "up to the minute" take on Malaysian Airways Flight 370? Two-thirds of the passengers were Chinese; at least one of them was someone that Beijing didn't want back in country. Why else sit on satellite imagery for four days? Again, what do I know? My experience with the ChiComs is limited to sporting arms... insert your own "boating accident" joke here...

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 08:44 PM (JMmQ9)

350 While there are countless teachers who inspired a student to make a difference in their field, there are plenty who are pedophiles, sociopaths, clock-watchers, incompetents, perverts, and narcissists who can't be fired

And the wonderful teachers will march in protests when their unions call to protect those bad teachers

When you circle the wagons, you take the fire

Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 08:45 PM (aTXUx)

351 Does anyone where Purple Avenger disappeared to?? holy smokes, I just realized he's been gone for a while! Posted by: soothsayer You could try the Twatter address: @PurpAv I think that's him.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 08:45 PM (PaW7t)

352 My pooner tastes like sugar

Posted by: Vallerie Jarrett at March 13, 2014 12:37 AM (5MaPI)



I bet a fast pass with a Geiger counter would tell a whole different story.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2014 08:47 PM (FMbng)

353 A total flight time of five hours after departing Kuala Lumpur means the Boeing 777 could have continued for an additional distance of about 2,200 nautical miles, reaching points as far as the Indian Ocean, the border of Pakistan or even the Arabian Sea, based on the jet's cruising speed. This is from the end of WSJ link NDH added. I have subscription & have app on iPad. I canÂ’t cut & paste it from iPad app, that looks like newspaper. I keep it open on my laptop.

Posted by: Carol at March 12, 2014 08:47 PM (gjOCp)

354 The protests in Madison Wisconsin in 2012 really lowered my placement of teachers on the respect and admiration scale

I say the same of teachers that I do of cops

You want respect, stop protecting the bad ones

Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 08:47 PM (aTXUx)

355 318      Posted by: kbdabear at March 13, 2014 12:29 AM (aTXUx)

===================================

All yours are da best.  Talkin' bout Daytona 500 contenders.  (PS Owned and loved the Mustang 302)

Posted by: NCwoof at March 12, 2014 08:47 PM (aUQgu)

356 Does anyone where Purple Avenger disappeared to??

holy smokes, I just realized he's been gone for a while!
Posted by: soothsayer

Purp has taken long hiatuses before when he's had projects or just felt like doing other things for a while

Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 08:49 PM (aTXUx)

357 347 325 --- I taught at a prison once. You'd be surprised how much more you can teach when there is strict discipline.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 13, 2014 12:44 AM (dfYL9)



It was never the priest who was the enforcer--always the nuns. They had no feet, they never went to the bathroom, they were positively ethereal, and they sure as hell brooked no shit in the classroom. And we loved them for it.



Catholic school for the win.

Posted by: tcn at March 12, 2014 08:49 PM (fwcEs)

358 I see some comments about education courses. Education majors get few to no classes on effective teaching. The courses are mostly about navigating the various legal requirements. For instance, you must keep track of your students with special accommodations, but you are not allowed to notate in your gradebook because someone might see it. I have really enjoyed teaching since I switched to the community college. There's much less paperwork and I can spend most of my energy on teaching. Also, in my little community, there aren't many other opportunities for me to make my $10-15 per hour (with no bennies except Social Security is replaced with PERA).

Posted by: Mindy at March 12, 2014 08:49 PM (Ew9Pv)

359 I say the same of teachers that I do of cops You want respect, stop protecting the bad ones This.

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 08:50 PM (JMmQ9)

360 349 And the wonderful teachers will march in protests when their unions call to protect those bad teachers Posted by: kbdabear at March 13, 2014 12:45 AM (aTXUx) -------------------- No, they won't. The wonderful teachers usually hate the union.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 12, 2014 08:51 PM (dfYL9)

361 A total flight time of five hours after departing Kuala Lumpur means the Boeing 777 could have continued for an additional distance of about 2,200 nautical miles, reaching points as far as the Indian Ocean, the border of Pakistan or even the Arabian Sea, based on the jet's cruising speed. This is from the end of WSJ link NDH added. I have subscription & have app on iPad. I canÂ’t cut & paste it from iPad app, that looks like newspaper. I keep it open on my laptop. *** Thanks. I don't have a subscription so I didn't get to read the entire article.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 08:51 PM (DmNpO)

362 Public school teachers? My husband's aunt was one, and all she ever did was bitch about it. Now she's "retired" with her golden parachute of bennies that will never end, including her full salary. Poor little rich girl. She sends those nasty Christmas letters detailing the minutia of her life and all the places to which she travels at great expense. I doubt most of her students could even read when she finished with them in 2nd grade.



I have no sympathy whatsoever. I have paid the price in taxes, so I'll not pay it in emotion or wasted breath.

Posted by: tcn at March 12, 2014 08:52 PM (fwcEs)

363 No, they won't.
The wonderful teachers usually hate the union.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 13, 2014 12:51 AM (dfYL9)


And the way cool thing is that most of the good ones in Madison and the rest of the state aren't paying union dues anymore, either. The union has laid off more workers than any other sector. Parasites, all of 'em.

Posted by: tcn at March 12, 2014 08:53 PM (fwcEs)

364 "Ah, I thought I heard the Horked-Wessel-Song...good to know at this late date..."

A new keyboard. You owe me one.

Unless I can somehow rinse the beer out of this one. BRB.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 08:53 PM (gqT4g)

365 Wait..... Professor? Is that an Airliner???

Posted by: Gilligan at March 12, 2014 08:54 PM (84gbM)

366 I'll bet the teacher who wrote that screams at everyone else who doesn't perform up to her expectations in their jobs even though she probably never spent a day working those jobs

I wonder if that crosses her mind as she's screaming over the phone to the customer service rep who is patiently trying to explain the terms of service she neglected to read or the loan terms she initialed quickly to get out the door ASAP

Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 08:54 PM (aTXUx)

367 If Beijing wnated to disappear someone, they wouldn't have to make the whole plane disappear. The plane was going to land in China anyway, they could have just grabbed them if they wanted. If, on the other hand, there was someone that N. Korea didn't want to end up in China, they might be willing to make a whole plane disappear. And, N. Korea is within the 2200 miles from the disappearance location.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 08:54 PM (IN7k+)

368 Everything I need to know about my vocation I learned by watching To Sire, with Love

Posted by: Mary Kay Letourneau, education facilitator at March 12, 2014 08:56 PM (FbMva)

369 U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 stayed in the air for about four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky. Aviation investigators [...] http://stream.wsj.com/story/malaysia-airlines- flight-370/SS-2-475558/SS-2-479736/ ************* Actually that is new information because-- #1 the source is US investigators #2 FOUR hours PAST the time it reached its LAST confirmed location. ..and now The India Today story makes more sense. Malaysian air force chief Rodzali Daud told a news conference that an aircraft was plotted on military radar at 2:15 a.m., 200 miles (320 km) northwest of Penang Island off Malaysia's west coast. Coastguards from India's remote Andaman and Nicobar Islands joined the airborne search on Wednesday for a missing Malaysian airliner, a senior official told Reuters. http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/malaysia-air- force-chief-denies-saying-lost-plane-tracked-to-west/1/347913.html

Posted by: tasker at March 12, 2014 08:57 PM (RJMhd)

370 I have no sympathy whatsoever. I have paid the price in taxes, so I'll not pay it in emotion or wasted breath. Posted by: tcn America wasn't a quainter, simpler time 60 years ago because people liked teachers more. It was a better time because they held politicians in suspicion.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 08:57 PM (PaW7t)

371 Thanks. I don't have a subscription so I didn't get to read the entire article.

If you go to google and search for this term:
"Engine Data Suggest Malaysia Flight Was Airborne Long After Radar Disappearance, U.S. Investigators Say"

The 4th link is the WSJ post. If you come to it from google, you will get the whole article, even if you are not a subscriber.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 08:57 PM (IN7k+)

372 Shit that will be wrong in 4 hours: @mpoppel 7m WSJ sources: U.S. officials investigating possibility missing airliner was diverted toward undisclosed location with transponder turned off

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 08:58 PM (PaW7t)

373 No, they won't.
The wonderful teachers usually hate the union.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 13, 2014 12:51 AM


Wonderful teachers must be a rarity rather than the norm, because most of the teachers I've met are huge union supporters, and every "Teacher of the Year" talks of how everyone should belong to a union

Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 08:58 PM (aTXUx)

374 351 My pooner tastes like sugar Posted by: Vallerie Jarrett at March 13, 2014 12:37 AM (5MaPI) ---------------------------------------------- Dear, we should talk.

Posted by: Dr. Elliott P. Joslin at March 12, 2014 08:59 PM (DtNNC)

375 Helios Airways Flight 522 crashed intact and with the flight crew unconscious. "Errors were made" by both ground and flight crew WRT cabin pressure, warnings were ignored, and everyone passed out at 34k feet. The plane flew into a mountain. Tragically, F-16s intercepted the plane after this happened and could only see dangling oxygen masks and the copilot slumped in the cockpit. One of the crew regained consciousness and entered the cockpit 15 minutes before the crash, but could not regain control of the aircraft. It would not have mattered much in either case, the left engine ran out of fuel when he entered the cockpit, and the right minutes later. There's no inherent connection to the flight 370 story, but it's a creepy story without gaping fat folds or disordered sex drives, just good old-fashioned sadness.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 12, 2014 08:59 PM (qyfb5)

376 So ... that's really freaking weird about the plane. I can't read the WSJ article, what is their proof? I'm seeing things about engine data? How did they get engine data? Confused.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 12, 2014 08:59 PM (ZPrif)

377 Everything I need to know about my vocation I learned by watching To Sire, with Love Posted by: Mary Kay Letourneau, education facilitator at March 13, 2014 12:56 AM (FbMva) Fun fact: She is the daughter of John Schmitz, the former Congressman who responded to the question "What do you think of Nixon going to China" with "I'm fine with it, just as long as he stays. He also called Gloria Allred a "slick butch lawyeress." He was so right-wing, the John Birch Society kicked up out for extremism. He, btw, received over a million votes for President in 1972.

Posted by: The AIP Hat at March 12, 2014 09:01 PM (AymDN)

378 #321

Nonsense. The Gremlin. If you were driving one of those, everybody who saw you knew you were utterly and completely fucked.

Posted by: Epobirs at March 12, 2014 09:01 PM (bPxS6)

379 I just can't get over the personality contrasts between Johnny and Edgar Winter:

http://is.gd/3xkuaY

http://is.gd/99V9RC

Edgar sounds like Mr. Garrison at times, and Johnny could play Billy Bob's part in Sling Blade.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at March 12, 2014 09:01 PM (m0h0I)

380

U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 stayed in the air for about four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky.

The investigators believe the plane flew for a total of five hours based on data automatically downloaded and sent to the ground from the Boeing Co. 777's engines as part of a routine maintenance and monitoring program.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 09:02 PM (IN7k+)

381 Thanks Anon.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 09:02 PM (DmNpO)

382 The flight was a redeye, so I'm wondering if the pilots fell asleep

It's happened before, there were even incidents where a coast to coast flight overshot SFO and flew on over the Pacific for an hour before waking and realizing what happened

American carriers have strict flight hours rules for pilots as do many foreign carriers. I don't know what Malaysia's regulations are

Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 09:03 PM (aTXUx)

383 366       

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 13, 2014 12:54 AM (IN7k+)

__________________________________

Chinese do not "think" like you and me.  They are not beyond creating a political environment wherein they can declare supremacy.  In this case, possibly, by using their own citizens as pawns.

Posted by: NCwoof at March 12, 2014 09:03 PM (aUQgu)

384 He was so right-wing, the John Birch Society kicked up out for extremism. He, btw, received over a million votes for President in 1972. Posted by: The AIP Hat In 1972 Sparta America, he might have been Veep.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 09:03 PM (PaW7t)

385 But the huge uncertainty about where the plane was headed, and why it apparently continued flying so long without working transponders, has raised theories among investigators that the aircraft may have been commandeered for a reason that appears unclear to U.S. authorities. Some of those theories have been laid out to national security officials and senior personnel from various U.S. agencies, according to one person familiar with the matter. At one briefing, according to this person, officials were told investigators are actively pursuing the notion that the plane was diverted "with the intention of using it later for another purpose." WSJ Looks like the info is coming from the data link sent to the Rolls Royce engine service. Still trying to read through it.

Posted by: tasker at March 12, 2014 09:05 PM (RJMhd)

386 the "transponder turned off" angle is what's keep me up at night. Why? Why was it turned off? Tomorrow night, mi amigos.

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 09:05 PM (JMmQ9)

387 So ... the engines were sending out data even though the other comms were turned off? How does that happen?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 12, 2014 09:05 PM (ZPrif)

388 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 12, 2014 09:06 PM (PYAXX)

389 Do the engines have their own separate comms link?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 12, 2014 09:06 PM (ZPrif)

390 Okay. Now it makes more sense. The plane engines transmit data to Rolls Royce as part of the maintenance contract.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 09:06 PM (DmNpO)

391 Flatbush Joe, An agreement with Rolls Royce, who must own Boening now, all data is fed to Rolls Royce to analyze. ThatÂ’s their analysis. Did you read link NDH put up? If you are using iPad, I recommend you spend 99 cents & download Mercury browser. It enables all links on iPads & iPhones that we can open on laptops & other computers. ItÂ’s too bad I keep forgetting to use it on my iPad!

Posted by: Carol at March 12, 2014 09:06 PM (gjOCp)

392 Those snippets are compiled and transmitted in 30-minute increments, said one person familiar with the system. According to Rolls-Royce's website, the data is processed automatically "so that subtle changes in condition from one flight to another can be detected." The engine data is being analyzed to help determine the flight path of the plane after the transponders stopped working. The jet was originally headed for China, and its last verified position was half way across the Gulf of Thailand. A total flight time of five hours after departing Kuala Lumpur means the Boeing 777 could have continued for an additional distance of about 2,200 nautical miles, reaching points as far as the Indian Ocean, the border of Pakistan or even the Arabian Sea, based on the jet's cruising speed.

Posted by: tasker at March 12, 2014 09:07 PM (RJMhd)

393 The flight was a redeye, so I'm wondering if the pilots fell asleep Posted by: kbdabear Even in the most lax aeronautical environment now, the idea that two officers fall asleep and remain so during loud alarms is a tad fantastic.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 09:07 PM (PaW7t)

394 Why is AllenG up at Midnight (TX time), you ask? Why, because he's STILL WORKING. Yeah- my boss thought it was a great idea to merge two project branches in mid-flight, and I (and one buddy) are up trying to fix it. Fan-fucking-tastic. Oh- and chances I'll just get to take tomorrow off? Yeah- zilch.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 12, 2014 09:07 PM (PYAXX)

395 "I'm seeing things about engine data? How did they get engine data? Confused."

There is a ton of onboard computational intelligence in a big modern jet engine. Sensors all over the thing.

The engine is constantly reporting back to home base on its own via various communications channels what its overall state of health is. And passing along any error or wear signals in subsystems.

If the primary fuel pump on #2 has an erratic pressure output? Maybe headquarters need to have a replacement pump shipped to meet the arriving jet for a quick swap at the gate. It costs a whole lot of money to have a 777 sitting in a hangar waiting for a part, instead of out flying in revenue service.

Outfits like Rolls-Royce, who made the engines on the missing jet, track this stuff obsessively. It's a key competitive tool for them. And, sometimes, the likes of Rolls have contracts with the airlines where the manufacturer maintains the engine so their airline doesn't have to mess with it: a "power by the hour" contract.

If I have this right, the Rollers called home via satellite link.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 09:08 PM (gqT4g)

396 Now its really weird.

U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 stayed in the air for about four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky. 

WSJ (not infowars or zerohedge)!  http://tinyurl.com/k8oslqt

This means the engines have their own transmit bus or whatever shut down the rest of the communications didn't impact the engine hums systems access to the antennas and radios. 

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 09:08 PM (Aqvh6)

397 Nonsense. The Gremlin. If you were driving one of those, everybody who saw you knew you were utterly and completely fucked.
Posted by: Epobirs at March 13, 2014 01:01 AM

Gremlins crashed that plane! Didn't you see it? It was out there on the wing!!!!

Posted by: Twilight Zone Shatner at March 12, 2014 09:09 PM (aTXUx)

398 News You Won't Use: How to Stop Being a Cynical Asshole For the record- Cynicism is different from mere negativity and bitching.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 12, 2014 09:10 PM (PYAXX)

399 372 Wonderful teachers must be a rarity rather than the norm, because most of the teachers I've met are huge union supporters, and every "Teacher of the Year" talks of how everyone should belong to a union Posted by: kbdabear at March 13, 2014 12:58 AM (aTXUx) --------------------- "Wonderful" teachers are by definition a rarity. Any teacher who praises the NEA is highly unlikely to be highly dedicated to her students or her subject. BTW, no one ever gets those "Teacher of the Year" awards unless they have been vetted by the union.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 12, 2014 09:10 PM (dfYL9)

400 Why is AllenG up at Midnight (TX time), you ask? Why, because he's STILL WORKING. Posted by: AllenG Been there. Actually had a manager pretending to applaud at the time. Good times.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 09:11 PM (PaW7t)

401 He was so right-wing, the John Birch Society kicked up out for extremism. He, btw, received over a million votes for President in 1972. Posted by: The AIP Hat In 1972 Sparta America, he might have been Veep. Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 13, 2014 01:03 AM (PaW7t) Another interesting fact: When he got the nomination for President from the American Independent Party, he let the convention pick his running mate. His choice was a BircherÂ… who just happened to be both Catholic and Black.

Posted by: The AIP Hat at March 12, 2014 09:11 PM (AymDN)

402 This means the engines have their own transmit bus or whatever shut down the rest of the communications didn't impact the engine hums systems access to the antennas and radios.

Posted by: Jean at March 13, 2014 01:08 AM (Aqvh6)


Maybe because whoever shut down the transponders and the comms radios didn't know about the data link for the engines?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2014 09:11 PM (3Li4k)

403 Pillage first, Then Burn
Refresh first, Then Post

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 09:12 PM (Aqvh6)

404 engine data should show at least whether it was under human control and not just flying blind. Couldn't it show if it landed, too?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 12, 2014 09:12 PM (ZPrif)

405 381 The flight was a redeye, so I'm wondering if the pilots fell asleep It's happened before, there were even incidents where a coast to coast flight overshot SFO and flew on over the Pacific for an hour before waking and realizing what happened American carriers have strict flight hours rules for pilots as do many foreign carriers. I don't know what Malaysia's regulations are Posted by: kbdabear at March 13, 2014 01:03 AM (aTXUx) **************** There's too many things against that. First the turn--the turn at the IGARI waypoint--that's convenient. Then that happens after the transponder's stop in a sense squawking the ID data of the plane. Also people at other sites like to say that the Malaysian AF is covering things up--but not really. It makes absolutely no sense for them to say that the airplane turned back and flew through their area of responsibility --their airspace-- if they were looking to cover something up.

Posted by: tasker at March 12, 2014 09:13 PM (RJMhd)

406 Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 13, 2014 01:11 AM (PaW7t) Yeah, I wouldn't be so mad about it if I hadn't been screaming that one of the projects was a giant Charlie-Foxtrot from the moment I heard about it. Yeah, it only takes 2 weeks to overhaul sensitive security code. Sure it does.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 12, 2014 09:13 PM (PYAXX)

407 398 Re: Teachers, I had several that influenced me, in anvery positive way, throughout the 60s and mid 70s. No union talk for them I can recall back then, just people who were great at their job because they cared very much about it.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 09:14 PM (ojnk6)

408 The student must be willing to learn.
If that condition is not present, no learning will happen. Ever. By any teacher, no matter what you pay them.

Posted by: navybrat at March 12, 2014 09:14 PM (AW7Gr)

409 Right, all systems must use the same satellite link, right? But if engines were sending data over the satlink that proves that the transponders weren't turned off by some catastrophic event that destroyed the satlink. So that supports the hijacking theory -- just one where the bad guys didn't know about the engine data being sent.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 12, 2014 09:14 PM (ZPrif)

410 Cat, who held family hostage and prompted 911 call from metrosexual dad, must now attend feline therapy.

Posted by: NCwoof at March 12, 2014 09:15 PM (aUQgu)

411 Maybe because whoever shut down the transponders and the comms radios didn't know about the data link for the engines?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Its a background maintenance thing, they have them for vibration data as well, the pilots may have been briefed once in training and its a numbered breaker on a bus of hundreds.  I doubt the pilots would know how to turn it off without a few minutes flipping thru the manual.

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 09:15 PM (Aqvh6)

412 If anyone saw "the Americans" tonite, was that a new version of the Peter Gabriel song "Here comes the flood" played at the end, or an 80's version? Trivia obsessed minds want to know. Such a sad song. Posted by: Goldilocks I watched, sorry can't answer. Tonight's show was awesome.

Posted by: The Farmer at March 12, 2014 09:16 PM (eBupg)

413 408 Right, all systems must use the same satellite link, right? But if engines were sending data over the satlink that proves that the transponders weren't turned off by some catastrophic event that destroyed the satlink. So that supports the hijacking theory -- just one where the bad guys didn't know about the engine data being sent. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 13, 2014 01:14 AM (ZPrif) *********** Yep. I wonder when that was implemented- or when Malaysian air signed on to that.

Posted by: tasker at March 12, 2014 09:16 PM (RJMhd)

414 ...Dewey Crowe unchained!!!... ...and he's got the horse!!!

Posted by: concrete girl at March 12, 2014 09:16 PM (lA4ty)

415 I am going to watch The Americans one am show. I missed the first few minutes of 11 pm show. Good Night, Horde.

Posted by: Carol at March 12, 2014 09:16 PM (gjOCp)

416 For the record- Cynicism is different from mere negativity and bitching. Posted by: AllenG Yes. One of my pet peeves. Cynicism is the absolute belief that *all* human behavior is "dog-like", that there is no 'human' volition, only animalistic greed. Those that accuse others of 'cynicism' need to refresh their understanding.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 09:17 PM (PaW7t)

417 I don't think transponders use a sat link. At least they didn't use to. They just emit a code when pinged by a radar beam, so that they show up on the scope identified by their numbers. And comms radios are either HF or VHF.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2014 09:18 PM (3Li4k)

418 There are three main turbojet manufacturers; GE, Rolls-Royce, and Pratt and Whitney

Amazing that Rolls-Royce is the only one with the data uplink and monitoring

I know that if the engines flame out the electrical system will only hold out as long as the batteries do, but will the engines keep running if the electrical system goes down?


Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 09:18 PM (aTXUx)

419 Another data point. Emergency locator Beacons are on modern aircraft... and one thing that will set off many is being immersed in water... Anyone know about them on a 777?

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 12, 2014 09:18 PM (84gbM)

420 I say the same of teachers that I do of cops

You want respect, stop protecting the bad ones

Posted by: kbdabear at March 13, 2014 12:47 AM (aTXUx)



I remember when I graduated high school, and my brother was starting high school the year I got out, so I figured I would drive him to school just to look at the school and be able to say not this year. Well, I see all the teacher striking with their fucking signs on the first frigging day of school. There were teachers and students and a frigging refreshment table, etc. I saw a teacher who I didn't really get along with, she was a psycho who gave me an F one semester, and an A the following semester without me doing a damn thing different. Anyway, I said whats up with the strike? She rattles off a fucking laundry list of grievances that was the biggest pack of shit I ever heard.


Having the ink barely dry on my diploma and realizing there wasn't a damn thing they can do to me anymore I let out an epic rant. I said are you fucking kidding me? Mr P never taught a god damn class the 3 years I was here, he handed out multiple choice work sheets every day and sat at his desk reading the news paper. And Mr G used to fall asleep at his desk every day leaving the kids to just hang out and talk among themselves. Also, every body knows Mr Z was fucking Mrs A in his pickup at night after their coaching duties were over, and Miss M was getting high with her students. Mr A  spends his summers off bar tending at club so and so down the shore spending his time eying up chicks too young for him, and you think you all have it rough?????? You people are fucking insane. I turned to my brother and said man good luck.




Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2014 09:19 PM (FMbng)

421 Ok, so transponders could still be separate comms system.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 12, 2014 09:20 PM (ZPrif)

422 I know that if the engines flame out the electrical system will only hold out as long as the batteries do, but will the engines keep running if the electrical system goes down? Posted by: kbdabear at March 13, 2014 01:18 AM (aTXUx) ***************** Good question and I see where you are going with that but there is this from the WSJ article: The system compiles data from inside the 777's two Trent 800 engines and transmits snapshots of performance, as well as the altitude and speed of the jet.

Posted by: tasker at March 12, 2014 09:21 PM (RJMhd)

423

This is lovely: an elderly lady who waved at the high school students passing her house every day got a wonderful surprise.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/mrhpb9d

Just a little pick-me-up, and a reminder that the kids are, like, totally redeemable. ;-)

Posted by: Beverly at March 12, 2014 09:21 PM (YmX6W)

424 Its a background maintenance thing, they have them for vibration data as well, the pilots may have been briefed once in training and its a numbered breaker on a bus of hundreds. I doubt the pilots would know how to turn it off without a few minutes flipping thru the manual.

Posted by: Jean at March 13, 2014 01:15 AM (Aqvh6)


And if a hijacker put a gun to the pilot's head, and said, "Turn off all the radios and transponders now!" the pilot could throw switches, and show the lights going out on the comms radios, and the transponders, and simply not mention the data links, and hope that somebody else on the ground watches them.


I wonder if that plane is on the ground somewhere in Burma or bangladesh?


Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2014 09:21 PM (3Li4k)

425 419 That was one hell of a text wal to climb, but good stuff. Thanks.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 09:22 PM (ojnk6)

426 Right, all systems must use the same satellite link, right?
But if engines were sending data over the satlink that proves that the transponders weren't turned off by some catastrophic event that destroyed the satlink. So that supports the hijacking theory -- just one where the bad guys didn't know about the engine data being sent. Posted by: Flatbush Joe


There was no common, high data rate satcom antenna on that plane - unless Rolls has their own in the engines ( it would be a low data rate burst messager - eg Iridium SMS). 

These are terrestrial VHF or SSB data bursts, and a collected and forwarded to IP addresses by automated systems. (I am familiar with the vibration ones, which do so on the ground - but could do it in the air if the money was right.)  I would assume various mil ferret sats would also pick up (and discard) the data.  I don't see what Rolls couldn't have there own SSB or VHF modem; they are smaller then a deck of cards, draw nothing, and are relatively cheap.

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 09:22 PM (Aqvh6)

427 "Cat, who held family hostage and prompted 911 call from metrosexual dad, must now attend feline therapy."

I regret nothing.

Posted by: The Cat at March 12, 2014 09:22 PM (gqT4g)

428

403 engine data should show at least whether it was under human control and not just flying blind. Couldn't it show if it landed, too?

 

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 13, 2014 01:12 AM (ZPrif) 

 

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Maybe...if the thrust reversers were used, it might show that in the data link.

Posted by: wheatie at March 12, 2014 09:22 PM (8quPO)

429 Sorry Iridium SBD not SMS

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 09:23 PM (Aqvh6)

430 This is all sorts of craziness. Did some wannabe Bond villain steal a fucking jumbo jet in midair and land it on his secret lair in the Pacific? Jesus.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 12, 2014 09:24 PM (ZPrif)

431 Cynicism is the absolute belief that *all* human behavior is "dog-like", that there is no 'human' volition, only animalistic greed. I would disagree to a minor extent- more that there is "human volition" but that it is rare, and requires effort- thus most people never exhibit any. But, yes- Cynicism basically says humans are selfish, greedy bastards, and if you want them to behave otherwise, you're out of luck. So make it easy and gratifying to behave "well" and more of them will do so.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 12, 2014 09:24 PM (PYAXX)

432 You people are fucking insane. I turned to my brother and said man good luck.



Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 13, 2014 01:19 AM (FMbng)



====

Thanks, Bro.  Wanna get me a few more enemies with power over me prior to Friday?




Did you top that by telling all the girls your bro had a tiny dick?

Posted by: jc at March 12, 2014 09:24 PM (PlzOe)

433 A total flight time of five hours after departing Kuala Lumpur means the Boeing 777 could have continued for an additional distance of about 2,200 nautical miles, reaching points as far as the Indian Ocean, the border of Pakistan or even the Arabian Sea, based on the jet's cruising speed. ********** Oh just peachy--the border of Pakistan. Did that Malaysian terrorist group ever do some jointy projects....

Posted by: tasker at March 12, 2014 09:25 PM (RJMhd)

434 "will the engines keep running if the electrical system goes down?"

Yes, by design.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 09:25 PM (gqT4g)

435 When he got the nomination for President from the American Independent Party, he let the convention pick his running mate. His choice was a BircherÂ… who just happened to be both Catholic and Black.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezola_B._Foster

There are DuBois blacks. There are Booker T Washington blacks. And then there are William Hannibal Thomas blacks . . .

Posted by: zimriel at March 12, 2014 09:25 PM (30eLQ)

436 429 Agreed, getting a little tired of every thread getting infested with this incident. It is what it is, let's move on, folks.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 09:26 PM (ojnk6)

437 Did some wannabe Bond villain steal a fucking jumbo jet in midair and land it on his secret lair in the Pacific? Jesus. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 13, 2014 01:24 AM (ZPrif) Well... I for one welcome the coming of our new Lizard Alien Overlords....

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 12, 2014 09:26 PM (84gbM)

438 There are three main turbojet manufacturers; GE, Rolls-Royce, and Pratt and Whitney

Amazing that Rolls-Royce is the only one with the data uplink and monitoring


I don't think that's true.  GE certainly has it on other platforms.

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 09:26 PM (Aqvh6)

439 Why would it take so many days for this engine data fact to come out? Seems odd. Didn't the engine maker have this data the whole time?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 12, 2014 09:26 PM (ZPrif)

440 I keep landing at this wiki--for a couple of days now. Jemaah Islamiah[1] (Arabic: الجماعة الإسلامية‎, al-Jamāʿat ul-Islāmíyatu, meaning "Islamic Congregation", frequently abbreviated JI),[2] is a Southeast Asian militant Islamist terrorist organization dedicated to the establishment of a Daulah Islamiyah (regional Islamic caliphate) in Southeast Asia.[3][4] On 25 October, 2002, immediately following the JI perpetrated Bali bombing, JI was added to the UN Security Council Resolution 1267 as a terrorist organization linked to al-Qaeda or the Taliban.

Posted by: tasker at March 12, 2014 09:27 PM (RJMhd)

441 "will the engines keep running if the electrical system goes down?"

They produce the electrical power.

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 09:27 PM (Aqvh6)

442 thx for the info Jean, obviously I don't know a damn thing about commercial jet comms systems.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 12, 2014 09:28 PM (ZPrif)

443 Agreed, getting a little tired of every thread getting infested with this incident. It is what it is, let's move on, folks. *** You are welcome to start your own sub-thread if you wish. Pick a topic and throw it out there.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 09:28 PM (DmNpO)

444 Okay I'm out.

Posted by: tasker at March 12, 2014 09:29 PM (RJMhd)

445 @438, perhaps so that they could find the plane before whoever has it knows they are looking. Or, alternatively, the news came out now because the people sitting on it found out that it was about to be leaked by someone else. Or, yet again, because they can't really track it that closely but want someone to think they can. Your pick?

Posted by: Piercello at March 12, 2014 09:30 PM (jJ97i)

446 You are welcome to start your own sub-thread if you wish. Pick a topic and throw it out there. So the Cowboys dropped Demarcus Ware, and then Miles Austin. I guess they really are trying to break the 8-8 doldrums by going 4-12?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 12, 2014 09:30 PM (PYAXX)

447 A total flight time of five hours after departing Kuala Lumpur means the Boeing 777 could have continued for an additional distance of about 2,200 nautical miles, reaching points as far as the Indian Ocean, the border of Pakistan or even the Arabian Sea, based on the jet's cruising speed.

"Arabian Sea", aka Persian Gulf. And what was the nationality of the people with the stolen passports? Iranian. If the plane actually landed somewhere, I think Iran would be an excellent place to look.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 09:31 PM (IN7k+)

448 So the Cowboys dropped Demarcus Ware, and then Miles Austin. I guess they really are trying to break the 8-8 doldrums by going 4-12? *** heh. Eric Decker is going to the Jets. And, in a *headdesk* piece of news... NFL on ESPN ‏@ESPNNFL 3h BREAKING: The Raiders announce their 5-year $42.5M deal with OL Rodger Saffold yesterday is nullified as Saffold failed his physical.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 09:32 PM (DmNpO)

449 A total flight time of five hours after departing Kuala Lumpur means the Boeing 777 could have continued for an additional distance of about 2,200 nautical miles, reaching points as far as the Indian Ocean, the border of Pakistan or even the Arabian Sea, based on the jet's cruising speed.

That's all way out of bounds - getting there would mean flying over India, and that didn't happen.  Bangladesh and Burma, maybe -  but they are relatively densely populated.  Did they try and hit Diego - but miss.  Somalia ?

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 09:32 PM (Aqvh6)

450

435 429
Agreed, getting a little tired of every thread getting infested with this incident. It is what it is, let's move on, folks. 

 

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 13, 2014 01:26 AM (ojnk6) 

 

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It's just now getting even more interesting.

 

But you are free to come up with some brilliant topic that 'folks' may find more intriguing, and 'move on' to.

 

Posted by: wheatie at March 12, 2014 09:32 PM (8quPO)

451 There's no reason to become alarmed, and we hope you'll enjoy the rest of your flight. By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?



Posted by: Elaine Dickinson at March 12, 2014 09:32 PM (aTXUx)

452 442 Sure, NDH. How would I get that turned into a thread, or sub thread, whatever that may be, exactly? That was my point. Not trying to be argumentative, just trying to understand the deal.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 09:32 PM (ojnk6)

453 Actually, I sort of get dropping Miles. He's so injury prone, he's not worth the money. But Demarcus Ware? Seriously?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 12, 2014 09:32 PM (PYAXX)

454 419
That was one hell of a text wal to climb, but good stuff. Thanks.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 13, 2014 01:22 AM (ojnk6)



Well it was 2 paragraphs when I typed it. Last night I typed 2 organized paragraphs and it looked like somebody with tourettes typed it. It was a scattered mess.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2014 09:33 PM (FMbng)

455 It would have to fly over two US carrier battlegroups to get to Iran.

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 09:33 PM (Aqvh6)

456 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 01:32 AM (DmNpO) Don't really know Saffold, so I don't know how bad that is for them.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 12, 2014 09:34 PM (PYAXX)

457 Did you top that by telling all the girls your bro had a tiny dick?

Posted by: jc at March 13, 2014 01:24 AM (PlzOe)


Shit, my bro was the football dude, he fucked his way through highschool.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2014 09:36 PM (FMbng)

458 An airliner disappears, e-mails are deleted, data is mined, 100,000 maniac whores rule the planet while pretending they are not united in the NWO. 


Posted by: dennis kucuinich at March 13, 2014 12:41 AM


I saw 100,000 Maniac Whores open for The Indigo Girls at the Universal Amphitheater in 1996

Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 09:36 PM (aTXUx)

459 Don't really know Saffold, so I don't know how bad that is for them. *** I don't either but, DAMN! You're an OL. You're allowed to be a big, fat, tub just so long as you can also do your job. So... you've got $8M a year on the line and STILL manage to fail the physical?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 09:38 PM (DmNpO)

460 I saw 100,000 Maniac Whores open for The Indigo Girls at the Universal Amphitheater in 1996

Never did see 10,000 Maniacs. Contented myself with Curve, Lush and Echobelly. Any of whose lead singers could have torn Natalie Merchant apart Bacchae-style

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 12, 2014 09:40 PM (30eLQ)

461 I would disagree to a minor extent- more that there is "human volition" but that it is rare, and requires effort- thus most people never exhibit any. Posted by: AllenG There is human volition. Not the point. Cynicism <- means 'Dog sense,' aka bad people are driven to bad things by nature. Says nothing about 'good people' or ethos. Declaring everything ultimately cynical only decrees that all men are bad and no redemption is possible.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 09:40 PM (PaW7t)

462 So... you've got $8M a year on the line and STILL manage to fail the physical? True. Though I think that actually happens not-irregularly. Usually teams give a player a few weeks to get in shape, and then try again. Wonder if this was his second chance, or if the Raiders had second thoughts...

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 12, 2014 09:40 PM (PYAXX)

463 Sure, NDH. How would I get that turned into a thread, or sub thread, whatever that may be, exactly? That was my point. Not trying to be argumentative, just trying to understand the deal. *** Toss out a squirrel. It's as easy as that.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 09:40 PM (DmNpO)

464 Heh. Guy from SAAB (yeah the other one) on new "American Heroes Channel" now, describing a pretty nice small anti-aircraft weapon they have that works real good on drones. Thing is, he's Saabish, and his accent exactly matches all those Henglish and Ires trying to sound Scandi on "Vikings." Really adds to the presentation.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 12, 2014 09:41 PM (xq1UY)

465

454 It would have to fly over two US carrier battlegroups to get to Iran.

 

Posted by: Jean at March 13, 2014 01:33 AM (Aqvh6)

 

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I've heard of smaller planes flying 'below radar' for pretty long distances.

 

But it would be truly remarkable for one this size to do that.

Over water, they would decrease the chances of being sighted...but still, it would be quite a feat to fly for four hours at really low altitude.

Posted by: wheatie at March 12, 2014 09:41 PM (8quPO)

466 Didnt he have a knee or hip injury?

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 09:41 PM (Aqvh6)

467 Interesting forum with aviation folks chatting it up http://t.co/2ZZKZCi3KR

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 09:42 PM (DmNpO)

468 optimist -- "that glass is half full"



pessimist -- "that glass is half empty"




cynic -- "who cares, that swill isn't fit to drink."

Posted by: jc at March 12, 2014 09:42 PM (PlzOe)

469 Didnt he have a knee or hip injury? *** Saffold? I'll look it up.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 09:43 PM (DmNpO)

470 Crabs. A bucket. Some assembly required. Posted by: torquewrench at March 13, 2014 12:09 AM TY. Had to send that to my wife. She may wake up earlier than I, we will see.

Posted by: The Farmer at March 12, 2014 09:43 PM (eBupg)

471 Declaring everything ultimately cynical only decrees that all men are bad and no redemption is possible. As a cynic who believes in redemption, I'd have to say that's an over-simplification. Redemption requires work, selflessness, and humility. Three things found only rarely in people. So you're generally safer assuming new people you meet are right bastards, and revising if they prove you wrong.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 12, 2014 09:43 PM (PYAXX)

472 cynic -- "who cares, that swill isn't fit to drink."

fatalist -- "*shrug* *gulp*"

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 12, 2014 09:44 PM (30eLQ)

473 462 I kinda thought that's what I did originally. Was I wrong there?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 09:44 PM (ojnk6)

474 Posted by: jc at March 13, 2014 01:42 AM (PlzOe) Na. optimist- "the glass is half full." pessimist- "the glass is half empty." cynic- "dammit! I knew as soon as I walked away, someone was going to Bogart my beer!"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 12, 2014 09:45 PM (PYAXX)

475 Google says shoulder, but I think the Raiders are just screwed up and wanted out.

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 09:45 PM (Aqvh6)

476 440 "will the engines keep running if the electrical system goes down?"

They produce the electrical power.
Posted by: Jean at March 13, 2014 01:27 AM

I know that a diesel engine on a boat, bus, or truck will keep running if the electrical system goes down but not vice-versa. I was wondering if a turbojet which doesn't require electrical spark for combustion could keep running without the electrical system, assuming that the control surfaces dependent on electricity locked in place at level flight in clear weather


Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 09:45 PM (aTXUx)

477 "squirrel" You know, like crossbow-fuckers v longbow-fuckers or something.

Posted by: Piercello at March 12, 2014 09:45 PM (jJ97i)

478 But it would be truly remarkable for one this size to do that.
Over water, they would decrease the chances of being sighted...but still, it would be quite a feat to fly for four hours at really low altitude.

Posted by: wheatie at March 13, 2014 01:41 AM (8quPO)

Planes fly at 30-40 thousand feet because the air is much thinner, and they expend less fuel to overcome air resistance, and can travel farther. I expect an airliner's range would be considerably lessened if they stayed at 3000 feet.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2014 09:47 PM (3Li4k)

479 Saffold had a shoulder injury but would have been able to play. Story at the NFL says the offer by the Raiders was odd anyway. http://on.nfl.com/1cVslvA

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 09:47 PM (DmNpO)

480 But it would be truly remarkable for one this size to do that. Over water, they would decrease the chances of being sighted...but still, it would be quite a feat to fly for four hours at really low altitude. *** From the forum I linked above: 2200 is much more restrictive than it could be. (It should be even less than that. Journalist got 2200 by multiplying maximum speed of a 777, ~510 kts, by 5 hours minus the time it took to get to the disappearance point. It's more accurate to use 480-490 and, assuming that they tried to land, to subtract some time for approach and landing.) With this range, they couldn't have gotten much further than India. There are lots of attractive "targets" like Somalia and even Iran, but all of them are way too far to get there in 5 hours. It's hard to imagine that it could've landed in India and no one noticed. The range of possible destinations is very narrow. Unless they had _very_ favorable winds. Is there any way to check wind speed and direction at FL295..350 above Sri Lanka on the night of the disappearance? I'll put it this way. If the plane kept going for 5 hours and then crashed into the ocean anyway, we have a few million square miles of ocean to comb through. If it kept going for 5 hours and then landed, there's probably no more than a dozen sites where it could've landed and stayed unnoticed all this time. Now India will have to go through their primary radar tapes looking for unidentified tracks. Maybe they'll find something, to narrow the list of options further.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 09:48 PM (DmNpO)

481 k-bear,  the engines have the power generators for the aircraft built into them and any power they need would be drawn locally before hitting the aircraft mains.  The fuel pumps, esp. the transfer pumps, are another issue.


I expect an airliner's range would be considerably lessened if they stayed at 3000 feet.

Absolutely

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 09:49 PM (Aqvh6)

482 426   The Cat


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For the smallest of fees, I can be your counsel

Posted by: NCwoof at March 12, 2014 09:50 PM (aUQgu)

483 I know that a diesel engine on a boat, bus, or truck will keep running if the electrical system goes down but not vice-versa. I was wondering if a turbojet which doesn't require electrical spark for combustion could keep running without the electrical system, assuming that the control surfaces dependent on electricity locked in place at level flight in clear weather


Posted by: kbdabear at March 13, 2014 01:45 AM (aTXUx)


I suppose that would depend upon whether the fuel pumps are electrical, or mechanical, and driven off the engines. And there are probably redundant electrical systems, too. Not all the eggs in one basket.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2014 09:50 PM (3Li4k)

484 "[The engines] produce the electrical power."

There are also other electrical power sources. Batteries. APU. Ram air turbine.

But if the bus based power distribution systems do a face plant, suddenly there's no way to get power to where it needs to be. Especially since bus failures sometimes damagingly cascade.

Note that this is why it's a major airliner layout mistake to place galleys or lavatories on the passenger deck immediately above the electrical systems controls on the lower deck. Yet this has happened with bad results.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 09:53 PM (gqT4g)

485 Redemption requires work, selflessness, and humility. Three things found only rarely in people. So you're generally safer assuming new people you meet are right bastards, and revising if they prove you wrong. Posted by: AllenG Appreciate your response because you, like many here on AoSHQ, are sages. No joke. Cynic, again, means 'dog sense.' THere's no escaping that, or that we use euphemisms for political speech. Cynic either means something or it doesn't. Again, my contention: cynic = there is no human action that is detached from self-interest.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 09:53 PM (PaW7t)

486 Again, my contention: cynic = there is no human action that is detached from self-interest. I would say that's more or less true. The problem with *any* absolute statement about Humanity is that Humanity defies absolutes. Then again, as a Christian, I believe I sin all the time- and the primary sin- perhaps the root of all sin- is Pride/Selfishness. Being a "self" in the first place, it is hard- nigh impossible even- to put any other "self" first. Thus, all our actions (at least those we don't take with specific deliberation otherwise) are "selfish" to some degree or another.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 12, 2014 09:59 PM (PYAXX)

487  @ Berserker -- If you're around, have a moment, and don't mind doing so, would you please shoot me an email? Just send it to walt at the domain in my user name below -- dot com, of course. Nothing urgent, or anything. I'd just like to be able to get in touch with you if I find a potentially interesting deal and need a little guidance.

Thanks!

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at March 12, 2014 10:00 PM (m0h0I)

488 Uh, this is new http://www.pprune.org/8370728-post2547.html

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 10:00 PM (DmNpO)

489 NDH, if I wanted to pay $25 to join that board, I would remind them that the Malaysians only got the ACARS data that they contracted for - it is quite possible that other data, Rolls Royce data, went thru ACARS without a Malaysian contract (it would have been buried in an Rolls maintenance/warranty package or power/hour contract.). 

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 10:02 PM (Aqvh6)

490

466 Interesting forum with aviation folks chatting it up

 

http://t.co/2ZZKZCi3KR

 

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Thanks for that link, NDH.

You're right...really interesting forum.

 

Someone just posted about being able to tell from the engine data if it had landed or not:

 

"If Rolls Royce can monitor engine data, i'd assume this means N1, reverser status?
 

They should be able to know whether the recording ended with the A/C at full power, low EGT (fuel exhaustion), a lower powered approach setting or maybe with reversers (having landed)?"

 

~ dr dre

 

That's what I meant upthread about the thrust reversers being deployed.

Which means = landed.

Posted by: wheatie at March 12, 2014 10:02 PM (8quPO)

491 Then again, as a Christian, I believe I sin all the time- and the primary sin- perhaps the root of all sin- is Pride/Selfishness. Being a "self" in the first place, it is hard- nigh impossible even- to put any other "self" first. Thus, all our actions (at least those we don't take with specific deliberation otherwise) are "selfish" to some degree or another. Posted by: AllenG Not sure about 'sinning all the time' but Original Sin implies a bit of that. Not my fav topic.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 10:05 PM (PaW7t)

492 Oil rig workers claim to have seen plane on fire http://bit.ly/1ifDLQb

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 10:08 PM (DmNpO)

493 Oil rig workers claim to have seen plane on fire http://bit.ly/1ifDLQb

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 10:08 PM (DmNpO)

494 Oil rig workers claim to have seen plane on fire http://bit.ly/1ifDLQb

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 10:08 PM (DmNpO)

495 "If Rolls Royce can monitor engine data, i'd assume this means N1, reverser status?"

The word "monitor" may be taken by some to have expansive implications.

Rolls get occasional squawks of data from the engines, not a continuous data stream. Whereas when most of us think of something being "monitored", we assume it is being continuously and closely watched.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 10:09 PM (gqT4g)

496 "If Rolls Royce can monitor engine data, i'd assume this means N1, reverser status?"

The word "monitor" may be taken by some to have expansive implications.

Rolls get occasional squawks of data from the engines, not a continuous data stream. Whereas when most of us think of something being "monitored", we assume it is being continuously and closely watched.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 10:09 PM (gqT4g)

497 "If Rolls Royce can monitor engine data, i'd assume this means N1, reverser status?"

The word "monitor" may be taken by some to have expansive implications.

Rolls get occasional squawks of data from the engines, not a continuous data stream. Whereas when most of us think of something being "monitored", we assume it is being continuously and closely watched.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 10:09 PM (gqT4g)

498 cynic -- "who cares, that swill isn't fit to drink." Posted by: jc at March Not quite according to absolute definitions. Cynic: All glasses are poisoned, some more than others.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 10:13 PM (PaW7t)

499 The word "monitor" may be taken by some to have expansive implications. Rolls get occasional squawks of data from the engines, not a continuous data stream. Whereas when most of us think of something being "monitored", we assume it is being continuously and closely watched. ** The transmissions were every 30 minutes but, I would assume, it would communicate a stream of information and not just the info from the moment of transmission. To transmit less would seem rather ineffective at detecting performance issues.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 10:13 PM (DmNpO)

500 I don't know why NDH's forum guy thinks that the cruising speed is a better number to use than max speed. True, airlines typically prefer to run the planes at the typical cruising speed. But, hijackers and other kinds of bad guys are going to want to haul ass with their booty and would be willing to go with the max speed.


Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 10:13 PM (IN7k+)

501 Oil rig workers claim to have seen plane on fire

http://bit.ly/1ifDLQb Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse

His description seems like a meteor.  An aircraft going down on fire isn't going to be very bright.  It's not a firework full of magnesium - at 500Kts you see smoke, maybe a flash if their is an explosion.  What would be making all that light during the descent - the kerosene wouldn't, it would make alot of smoke.

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 10:14 PM (Aqvh6)

502 Night all. In honor of the car-f**ker, here is "Cars" by Gary Numan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldyx3KHOFXw

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 12, 2014 10:14 PM (AymDN)

503 Not sure about 'sinning all the time' but Original Sin implies a bit of that. It's 1AM here. I've been up for 20 hours straight. My communication skills *might* not be up to par.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 12, 2014 10:16 PM (PYAXX)

504 Most of the system I've worked with send a periodic burst - but can have boundary conditions that send immediate messages.  Turning on those boundary conditions is big management decision involving liability and lawyers ... technically its easy.

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 10:17 PM (Aqvh6)

505 His description seems like a meteor. An aircraft going down on fire isn't going to be very bright. It's not a firework full of magnesium - at 500Kts you see smoke, maybe a flash if their is an explosion. What would be making all that light during the descent - the kerosene wouldn't, it would make alot of smoke. *** There are some at the questioning it as well

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 10:17 PM (DmNpO)

506 Rolls get occasional squawks of data from the engines, not a continuous data stream. Whereas when most of us think of something being "monitored", we assume it is being continuously and closely watched.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 13, 2014 02:09 AM (gqT4g)


But would the engine data systems not be programmed to squawk whenever the engine status changed? Presumably Rolls Royce would want to know that they were performing within spec, whether at cruise, or in climb-out, or in thrust reversal on the runway? Problems are most likely to show up first when the engines are working hard, right?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2014 10:17 PM (3Li4k)

507

496...His description seems like a meteor.

 

Posted by: Jean at March 13, 2014 02:14 AM (Aqvh6) 

 

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Yeah it sort of does, doesn't it.

 

If the plane went down at that time...then what would account for the additional hours of engine data being transmitted?

Posted by: wheatie at March 12, 2014 10:19 PM (8quPO)

508 Major problems - yes.  But they (at least the vibration systems) are really looking for subtle, long term trends.  Remember every squawk on a satellite system costs $$$.

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 10:20 PM (Aqvh6)

509 A lot of those circles include Diego.  Lots of various towelheads would love to take a shot at that place.

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 10:25 PM (Aqvh6)

510 What would be making all that light during the descent - the kerosene wouldn't, it would make alot of smoke.
Posted by: Jean at March 13, 2014 02:14 AM

Jean, what do you do for a living? Your posts indicate some working experience with aircraft engineering and flight

They're very informative, I thank you

Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 10:29 PM (aTXUx)

511 Just popping in to post this in honor of the car-fucker...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41qfIecwXFg

Good night, everyone! May your dreams be Obama-free.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 12, 2014 10:30 PM (/96QU)

512 495 I don't know why NDH's forum guy thinks that the cruising speed is a
better number to use than max speed. True, airlines typically prefer to
run the planes at the typical cruising speed. But, hijackers and other
kinds of bad guys are going to want to haul ass with their booty and
would be willing to go with the max speed.


Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 13, 2014 02:13 AM (IN7k+) Hide posts from (IN7k+)



Cruising speed is the speed where the plane is at its most efficient....that is to say, where it will have its greatest range.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 12, 2014 10:32 PM (T1005)

513 The ocean is vast and deep.
Those who traverse it risk all.

Posted by: navybrat at March 12, 2014 10:39 PM (AW7Gr)

514 kdba - aerospace/defense r&d.  Ive put many sensors on aircraft using my own data transmit buses or host systems.  (It generally costs less to roll your own and not involve a 300 man engineering team from Everett, so I can see Rolls having their own system either terrestrial or satellite.) 

These HUMS systems (Health and Usage Monitoring) are critical for keeping these complex systems operating.

I would love to see a basic map of continuous air search radar coverage with ranges to a modest figure of merit on 777 in that region.  Who should have seen something, but didn't would put some holes in the big map they are searching.

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 10:39 PM (Aqvh6)

515 True on efficiency. But, from another comment at the same forum:

A flight time of five hours is interesting because the flight time from KL to Beijing is 5:55 hours, including fuel for diversion, etc, the 777 should have been fulled for at least 7:00 hours flight time.

So, if they only ended up flying for 5 hours, they could afford to burn some extra fuel to get there faster.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 10:46 PM (IN7k+)

516 Just spitballing here - If your a stand-up pilot and some terrorist wants you to fly to some heavily populated location, do you do it?  Or, do you put the plane in a position that it is going down in the water after they cut your throat, no matter what they do.

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 10:51 PM (Aqvh6)

517 Gnight, all!

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 12, 2014 10:55 PM (nUH8H)

518 Thx for the flashback, BTH - one of my long lost favorite skits ... Daytona/Superbird were designed for one purpose only, and that was functional aero. The little scoops over the tires weren't aero but were so the tires wouldn't rub the fenders. They were so effective they were banned in short order. I think they are gorgeous, especially in a light metallic blue, even though I'm a Ford guy ... This airliner thing is bizarre and very understandable to me why people are fascinated with the story. Less information makes it more of mystery. I had some horrible teachers at one high school that had a bad history, and then some great ones at another. One dude in particular would spend at least the first 10 minutes of every single class complaining of his lot in life, his hatred of teaching (while advising us all to never pursue it as a career), and updating his retirement countdown. As horrible has he was I still learned a great deal of Soviet geography from him, because I loved the subject. To me the ironic thing about the teachers is how they resent other's making more than the do, as if they had the most important job in the world. They really believe that, and think they should all be paid like, well, Eric Decker, who will not improve the Jets. The fact that they work maybe 70% of what the rest of us do and have gold plated early retirements is lost on the I suppose. The teachers and sainted first responders are bankrupting our nation.

Posted by: Joewhoisalwayslatetothethread at March 12, 2014 10:55 PM (4jlYO)

519 Where the fuck is Peaches tonight?

Posted by: AOSHQ Style Guide at March 12, 2014 10:56 PM (AWwDY)

520 his hatred of teaching (while advising us all to never pursue it as a career), and updating his retirement countdown. As horrible has he was I still learned a great deal of Soviet geography from him, because I loved the subject.

You also learned not to become a teacher or a unionized government employee, I'd say he did a damn good job.

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 10:57 PM (Aqvh6)

521 Where the fuck is Peaches tonight? Posted by: AOSHQ Style Guide Real life, unlike the rest of us.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 11:07 PM (PaW7t)

522 First AoSHQ Rule of Real Life Never Talk About Real Life

Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 11:15 PM (aTXUx)

523 I often considered teaching but didn't want to deal with other people's kids. Took a shot at some community college stuff for a few years, but I also found the adults to be somewhat intolerable. It was also a subject that I am good at, and am an expert in in the work world, but had no real passion for ... People's demands and expectations of pots of gold with little or no effort really turned me off ... I get what I can out of doing some teaching in my typical daily role now. I did learn that being an effective teacher is way more difficult than it seems, and is a skill in addition to knowledge of the material. Unfortunately our ed schools just teach socialist politics and PC speech now ...

Posted by: Joewhoisalwayslatetothethread at March 12, 2014 11:28 PM (4jlYO)

524 Goldman a/k/a "Spengler" is a paid Putin punk.

It is utterly outrageous to make the spurious claims he does, and if he wants to claim Ukraine is not a nation, I suggest he tell it to a couple of septuagenarian emigres in the Bronx, the wussie.

If a fair and impartial election were held, not 20% of the Russian-speaking population of Crimea would choose Putin's oligarchy over the hope of democracy with Ukraine and eventual integration with Europe.  And almost none of the Ukrainian speakers.

Screw that sell-out Goldman.  The greatest curse I can place upon that slime is "May he get what he deserves."

Posted by: Adjoran at March 12, 2014 11:35 PM (QIQ6j)

525 518 I often considered teaching but didn't want to deal with other people's kids. Took a shot at some community college stuff for a few years, but I also found the adults to be somewhat intolerable. It was also a subject that I am good at, and am an expert in in the work world, but had no real passion for ... People's demands and expectations of pots of gold with little or no effort really turned me off ... I get what I can out of doing some teaching in my typical daily role now.

I did learn that being an effective teacher is way more difficult than it seems, and is a skill in addition to knowledge of the material. Unfortunately our ed schools just teach socialist politics and PC speech now ... Posted by: Joewhoisalwayslatetothethread at March 13, 2014 03:28 AM (4jlYO) Hide posts from (4jlYO)



My dad worked all day and taught night classes in Engineering when I was a kid; my mom was a college professor of mathematics; my maternal uncle taught, IIRC, High School -- and I've had to train accountants and auditors many times and have been told "you should be a teacher."


I probably never will be. I might be a tutor or something -- I have no problem with sharing my knowledge or explaining things. But Gramsci has turned schools into war zones, specifically opposed to people like myself.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 12, 2014 11:39 PM (T1005)

526 Don't know why I thought of this...



http://youtu.be/fFv_PoZ2iP0




Evening roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 12, 2014 11:40 PM (yh0zB)

527 Good Morning, I cannot sleep. The wind is howling like Barney Frank on a date and it's freezing outside. Someone sing to me, please.

Posted by: ALH at March 12, 2014 11:45 PM (btTLZ)

528 Someone sing to me, please.

Posted by: ALH at March 13, 2014 03:45 AM (btTLZ)




http://youtu.be/3IZjYc8NSN4

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 12, 2014 11:49 PM (yh0zB)

529 That was beautiful, GGE. Thank you.

Posted by: ALH at March 12, 2014 11:53 PM (btTLZ)

530 "Good Morning, I cannot sleep. The wind is howling like Barney Frank on a date"

Oh criminy. Now I can't sleep either, even though it's completely calm and quiet.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 11:59 PM (gqT4g)

531 Last night's dinner was a heavy meal and that isn't helping. Poppy seed chicken. The heavy part is that the recipe calls for a pint of sour cream.

Posted by: ALH at March 13, 2014 12:02 AM (btTLZ)

532 Prefer the man with the pick-em-up truck -- good for the long haul.

Posted by: NCwoof at March 12, 2014 11:02 PM (aUQgu)




*looks at Baja*



*ponders*

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 13, 2014 12:08 AM (yh0zB)

Posted by: ALH at March 13, 2014 12:11 AM (btTLZ)

534 Just spitballing on the Malaysia jet. If the engines fail, isn't there an APU on board to provide supplemental power? And even if the APU dies or doesn't work at altitude, don't most jets have that little spinner thingy that pops out in an emergency and provides basic electrical power for the control surfaces? Yes, I've been watching too many air disaster shows.

Posted by: Mr_Fastbucks at March 13, 2014 12:13 AM (b67KU)

535 Funny how CNN was saying China would only release sat photos after being sure not to lose face, then WSJ has article hours later saying engines ran for hours after last known location of jet...

Posted by: Baldy at March 13, 2014 12:17 AM (2bql3)

536 That stuff just came along all of a sudden a few years later. Right as modern pedagogy came in, and the insensitive old harridans were sent off to retirement, replaced with sensitive and caring new educational specialists armed with the latest theories from grad school. "New math". "Whole word reading." "Ebonics".

Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 11:46 PM (gqT4g)



The best teacher I had in high school was the history teacher. Doretta Youngman, we all called her Sarge (where she couldn't hear us, of course) because she was one, in the USMC, during WW2. She would tell us "I not only teach history, I helped to make it." No one, and I mean NO ONE, acted up in her class.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 13, 2014 12:24 AM (yh0zB)

537 "And even if the APU dies or doesn't work at altitude, don't most jets have that little spinner thingy that pops out in an emergency and provides basic electrical power for the control surfaces?"

Yes, a 777 has an air-startable APU for auxiliary power, and it also has the "spinner thingy", the ram air turbine, infelicitously enough called the RAT. Although if you're down to the RAT as the only power source, things are pretty bad.

Statistically, the triple seven is an extremely safe aircraft. One of the safest aircraft in history on a seat-mile basis.

That's part of what makes the disappearance so alarming. And why suggestions of violent chicanery began very promptly.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 13, 2014 12:25 AM (gqT4g)

538 Good morning yall. It's another unseasonably sunny and warm day in Warsaw. The ladies here were skin tight pants or short skirts. It's a fabulous visual throughout the. Sigh. You know which teachers dont whine? Nuns! They kick your ass and then get on with the teaching. Seems like a good system...

Posted by: fastfreefall at March 13, 2014 12:27 AM (BE73W)

539 Someone drove through a crowd at SXSW!

2 dead MANY wounded.

I saw a brief cell video just minutes after, and the aftermath stretched for a city block!!  Its on youtube, search SXSW within 1 hr.. not for faint hearts.

Cops have suspect in custody.

Link in my sig..

Posted by: JarvisW at March 13, 2014 12:31 AM (E7Iyp)

540 Radio news said he was a DWI suspect. Suspected that he ran from a DWI checkpoint..

Posted by: JarvisW at March 13, 2014 12:31 AM (E7Iyp)

541 The Boeing 777-200ER has three different communication links - SATCOM, VHF, and HF.

Text messages, ACARS, can be transmitted in burst, think Twitter, on VHF of upto 220 character length.  This was how the first information was transmitted to pilots aloft on 9/11 warning of hijacked planes.  IIRC the display for these messages with keypad is located on center console between the pilots.
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/decoders/acars.pdf

The slang for a transponder answering an IFF query from a radar is a 'squawk.'  Commercial aircraft worry about Mode 3 and Mode C.  Mode 3 is the plane's flight number while Mode C is the aircraft's height.  This information is what is returned to ATC.  They transmit independent of the aircraft's communication systems and they can be accidentally blanked by the plane itself.  They can also be turned off, there is a circuit breaker that can be pulled in the cockpit.


Rolls Royce Engine Health Monitoring system transmits its data either SATCOM or via ACARS.  Total size of the data sent is 3KB per transmission.
http://tinyurl.com/oh3atgp

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2014 12:41 AM (23VXG)

542

The other nite, Alton, three yoots followed (18 or 19) me out of the supermarket.  11:30 or so on an empty parking lot.  I was parked in a handicapped slot, walked with a cane (I'm 65).  They turned toward me, about ten yards away.

Up to no good, methinks.

Normally I pack (I've got a CCW and live in a SYG state), No gun this evening. But I reached under my coat, as if I wore a shoulder rig, and gave the group the 'ol stinkeye.

Their eyes got big as dinner plates and they took off 180 degrees away from me at a high rate of speed.

Coulda beat 'em to death with an inch of hickory, I guess.  Next time I'll have the Glock on my hip.

Posted by: SGT Mike, RVN '69 at March 13, 2014 12:53 AM (sFYRF)

543 Coulda beat 'em to death with an inch of hickory, I guess. Next time I'll have the Glock on my hip.

Posted by: SGT Mike, RVN '69 at March 13, 2014 04:53 AM (sFYRF)




I carry St Christopher (Glock 36) with me everywhere I go.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 13, 2014 01:06 AM (yh0zB)

544 Did you all catch that last photo?

Lindsay Lohan

Speaking of which, apparently she's made a list and checked it twice.

Of who she's done in Hollywood or wherever.

http://tinyurl.com/mp78tan (the Daily Caller)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Microaggressive SoCon) at March 13, 2014 01:21 AM (LSDdO)

545 "The other nite, Alton, three yoots followed (18 or 19) me out of the supermarket. 11:30 or so on an empty parking lot. I was parked in a handicapped slot, walked with a cane (I'm 65). They turned toward me, about ten yards away."

They just wanted to make sure you could load your bags in the car.

Modern yoot are nothing if not solicitous about caring for their elders.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 13, 2014 01:27 AM (gqT4g)

546 Arsonist sets store fire with 27 pups inside http://kxan.com/2014/03/12/arsonist-sets-store-fire-with-27-pups-inside/ Fortunately, all pups were rescued. What the hell is a puppy boutique? Sounds skeezy.

Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 13, 2014 01:44 AM (r7mtu)

547 The bitch who owned the puppy store was one of the people who committed the arson. Pretty sick. And to those of you who think people are more important than puppies, this store was in a very congested business area. If the sprinklers had not kicked in and worked so well, the whole block would have gone up. Here's to a better life for the puppies. You can see them backing away in their cages when the flames start spreading.

Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 13, 2014 01:50 AM (r7mtu)

548 541
Arsonist sets store fire with 27 pups inside

http://kxan.com/2014/03/12/arsonist-sets-store-fire-with-27-pups-inside/

Fortunately, all pups were rescued. What the hell is a puppy boutique? Sounds skeezy. Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 13, 2014 05:44 AM (r7mtu) Hide posts from (r7mtu)



That is one nasty story. Everything on video, no excuses. Ick. Thankfully, all the pups made it.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 13, 2014 01:51 AM (T1005)

549 Is Paris brother still suing Lindsay for bitch slapping him at a party?

Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 13, 2014 01:52 AM (r7mtu)

550 Malaysia press conf - they are denying the WSJ report that the plane could have flown for four more hours. They say they will now turn over radar info to the US etc.

Posted by: Baldy at March 13, 2014 01:52 AM (2bql3)

551 Malay. Trans Min: "...the plane vanished..."

Posted by: Baldy at March 13, 2014 02:08 AM (2bql3)

552 From The Aviation Herald

On Mar 13th 2014 afternoon Malaysia's Transport Minister said in a televised press conference, that the last ACARS transmission was received from the aircraft at 01:07L (17:07Z), there were no later transmissions via ACARS (editorial note: which effectively states a report by a single US "news" paper of the engines monitoring recording information via ACARS for 4 more hours is untrue), the last transmission received from the aircraft indicated all systems were operating normally. Malaysia's Search Control Center consulted with the NTSB and other agencies with respect to the unidentified primary radar returns and it was a common decision, that there were sufficient grounds to dedicate forces to search for the aircraft west of Malaysia. The aircraft dispatched to the location identified by SASTIND did not find anything, China did not intend to release the satellite images to the public. Malaysia is committed to find the aircraft and is going to intensify search efforts further.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2014 02:11 AM (23VXG)

553 China says they never meant to release the photos of supposed wreckage, per CNN.

Posted by: Baldy at March 13, 2014 02:11 AM (2bql3)

554 Malaysia now denying crew members' homes were searched...

Posted by: Baldy at March 13, 2014 02:13 AM (2bql3)

555 Didn't Purple Avenger's posts get stomped on/yanked all the time? I thought that was fucked up.

Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 13, 2014 02:19 AM (r7mtu)

556 Well here we are in that new world we were promised, where statements are simultaneously true and false, and logic is multi-modal. Probably a good world in which to avoid air travel.

I can't tell you if those passengers are alive, but I can tell you how fast they are going.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 13, 2014 02:20 AM (xq1UY)

557 When Mrs VIA and I first met, she was studying Mortuary Science.

Yes, I did indeed go on a run with her in the big black taxi to get a client in a box.

Only, no box, gurney.

And spent several night trips going down to the city Morgue to drop off clients.


And that should wrap up the ONT.


Morning all!
 

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice, postulated outside the blast radius at March 13, 2014 02:41 AM (si68n)

558

Arsonist sets store fire with 27 pups inside

 

Summary execution.  No trial.

 

Filthy bitch.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 13, 2014 02:42 AM (zF6Iw)

559 Good morning everyone! Gonna be a pretty nice day to rid the scooter to work, then come home and do some lounging around on the patio. I wish they'd just send me a check every couple of weeks and renew my insurance and pharmacy cards every year without having to enlist in the FSA.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 13, 2014 02:44 AM (60Vyp)

560 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice, postulated outside the blast radius at March 13, 2014 06:41 AM (si68n)--- People used to take their dates to the morgue here. It was open to the public years ago in Pittsburgh.

Posted by: Baldy at March 13, 2014 02:45 AM (2bql3)

561 553 Arsonist sets store fire with 27 pups inside Summary execution. No trial. Filthy bitch. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 13, 2014 06:42 AM (zF6Iw) They didn't just set fire to the store, they splashed gas on the cages. And the stupid bitch didn't know that investigators look to see if items may have been removed from a location, e.g., photos, files, etc., as evidence of arson.

Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 13, 2014 02:51 AM (r7mtu)

562 I get the feeling Grendel's Mother needed the insurance money since the boutique was tanking.

Evil actions from evil motives.  Michael Vic was not this monstrous.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2014 02:58 AM (o9ypU)

563 And if anybody asks, PSA has a nice Buffer Tube/stock combo on sale for a fairly good price.
MilSpec 7075 tube and all

http://tinyurl.com/n7r68un

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 13, 2014 03:08 AM (si68n)

564 Yes, a 777 has an air-startable APU for auxiliary power, and it also has the "spinner thingy", the ram air turbine, infelicitously enough called the RAT. Although if you're down to the RAT as the only power source, things are pretty bad. Beats turning the 777 into a submarine.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2014 03:16 AM (xorT2)

565 Mr. McKay, oil rig worker in Vietnam, mailed his observation and location to his employer. Reported seeing what could have been the Boeing above him totally in flames, no lateral movement, for 20 seconds, then nothing. Link/Drudge

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 13, 2014 03:21 AM (MhA4j)

566 Perhaps one should mention the arrival of the new thread....Yes?

OK


It's here.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 13, 2014 03:24 AM (si68n)

567 Washington Times Internat. airspace: US F-22 Raptor pilot maneuvers unnoticed under Iranian F-4 Phantom to determine weapons load. Then rises to their left wing to tell the Iranians, "you really ought to go home," as they'd been attempting to intercept a US drone. They complied, religion of peace and all. "Curses, foiled again!" Dick Dastardly's wacky races http://tinyurl.com/k7qwrxc

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 13, 2014 03:31 AM (MhA4j)

568 Wish I would have come out to play last nite.

Posted by: Misanthopic Humanitarian at March 13, 2014 04:20 AM (HVff2)

569 Spengler's views on Ukraine are a joke. He declares absolutely that there will be no strategic consequences. I laid out a few of the most obvious ones, and within a week several were already becoming issues including Ukraine musing about nuclear weapons and Putin insinuating that the breakup of the Soviet Union was illegal (as featured here). Throw in his confusing Galicia with Silesia from his previous piece on Ukraine and you have to wonder just what his motives are with such nonsense.

Posted by: Sam at March 13, 2014 09:53 AM (Tgd6y)

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