1 sweet.  First loose shit by an Open Blogger.

2 Looks like a jailbreak around here

3 First, I'd like to thank the Academy and all the little people.....

4 I'm feeling centered.

5 Ah, we're in the center of things.

6 or third
whatever

7 Congrats to "War between the Undead States" for coming in 6th and 10th in sockpuppeting.

8 Oh goody....I had asked for some open tags from the new people in the previous thread.  Thanks!

9 Kudos for following the AoS tradition of relentless centrism, chad.

10 Stuck in the Middle.

11 Uh oh, the comments are in the center, Sulu is straight, and Spock has a beard

Frigging ion storms

12 Oh Good Lord, ENOUGH.

Why don't we just ask a million monkeys pounding away at a million keyboards to write new posts for us??

13 And why the hell are all the comments CENTERED for God's Sake?

14 Is the steering wheel on the right hand side on this thread?

15 I think it was the college alumni thread that pushed me to the top of the list.

16 OK, this is a centering experience.  Lets be real daring and go all right justify. 

17 The Independents have their own ONT!

18 So a whole bunch of regulars are co-bloggers until the Head Ewok is found?

19 I never liked margins anyway.
They make me feel crowded.

20  You have to love Chris!
 He's like Reagan with a knife!!

21 Centerin' ... that's a paddlin'

22 Here I am

23 Fixed.  It helps when you don't misspell center :-P

24 Loose shit indeed.

25 13 Oh Good Lord, ENOUGH.

Why don't we just ask a million monkeys pounding away at a million keyboards to write new posts for us??

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 21, 2010 09:58 PM (tJjm/)

I thought that had ALWAYS been the case!

26

Time for The Walking Dead

 

27 I didn't do it!

Posted by: CDR M at November 21, 2010 10:00 PM (5I8G0)

I thought you said you were posting the ONT tonight?  Wait...don't tell me there's gonna be another one later?!

28 Is it dark on the Left Coast yet? 

I would imagine Rum will soon appear to post...

29

Ok, so which one of the new assholes broke the blog. It wasn't me. I swears it.

 

30

aw, how cute [?] are the commenters today stepping up to the plate to provide some bloggage for us losers.

so, cute isn't the right word but just deal okay??

and how is War both sixth and tenth in terms of sock puppetting?? I'z no good with da math, but even I can figure that out.

31 Time for another thread.

32 It is dark. But she had said she was going to Disneyland today, althought that might have been a ploy.

33 And not on the top 10.  I feel so much better about myself, now. 

Kratos, on the other hand...  I actually think a Tie goes the previous week's winner.  Almost 300 comments less and still ties for first.

34

Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2010 10:01 PM (Qn8lb)

Now about those long, long legs and flaming red hair of your....

35 Right, so now all the loose shit comments look like loose shit.

36 Summary of my weekend flights:

1.  No pat downs, darn it!
2.  Not selected for body scan at Salt Lake airport - was asked if I would set off metal detector, replied no, so they put me through that
3.  Saw one older person being patted down at Salt Lake
4.  Noticed an unarmed TSA agent (short, slight guy probably in his 50s) "patrolling" the seating/waiting area in Salt Lake -- very odd
5.  I didn't see any body scanners at Ontario (in Los Angeles area) - just metal detector.  Again no pat down.
6.  While waiting for hubby, I watched two old folks being patted down in Ontario.  The older lady had her skirt lifted up in full view of everyone.  Lovely.  The older man, whom I would describe as frail/elderly, had the full monty, including examination of the (elasticized) waist band of his baggy old man pants. 
7.  No additional security at Ontario

BTW, I think that the TSA is astroturfing blog sites.  I've read a lot of comments in threads about how annoying/outrageous what they're doing now in which the commenter waxes poetic about how professional the TSA screeners are and how most of them are so darned professional because they are (supposedly) ex-military or retired police.  I call bullshit.  I have yet to see a TSA person who looks like they were ever in the military, even 20 years and 40 pounds ago. 

But that raises an interesting thought.  I wouldn't mind this crap nearly as much if it were being conducted by current members of the military.  I guess it's a confidence thing. 

37 I'm getting a kick outta the Open Blogger thing. Moar, please.

38 6 [34 names] 'The War Between the Undead States'

10 [25 names] 'The War Between the Undead States'

Huh?

39 ...So you think being Starship Captain is all whoopass and smackdown? How about playing delivery boy in fucking warpdrive so the special bus crowd can get its happy juice, halfway across the galactic center? My captain's shirt is already tan, so I guess we can just trade it in for UPS brown, swap Mr. Spock for a barcode scanner and hit on the housewives who answer the subspace doorbell. I remember we had to ass-haul some aspirin and animal tranks and what-the-fuck to this miserable rock Tantalus Five. Five is about all the minutes I wanted to spend there, but one of the fruitcakes escaped from the Interstellar Walnut Academy down below, hidden in a box of dirty laundry that we beamed aboard. I still don't get that shit. What, are we stealing underpants from the psycho ward now? They don't have sonic washers or rivers with stones down there? Well, now I have to beam down with Dr. Christmas, the ship's shrink, to remind the looney bin staff that they might want to check the padlocks on their booby hatches. I call her Dr. Christmas because once at the Enterprise holiday party she was a real present. Let's just say I unwrapped her box. So we beam down after they turn off the force field that keeps the cuckoos in the asylum, and here's this Dr. Adams dude running the madhouse, who acts half slick bureaucrat, half used-spaceship salesman, and from his hair, I'm thinking he's all gay. That ascot alone would make Sulu burst in a hissy fit of envy. He shows us this weird armchair that he says drove dirty-laundry-man crazy. All an accident, he says, and I believe him like I believe Scotty when he says there isn't a thermos of highly spiked Irish coffee hidden behind the fifth anti-matter injector in the warp coil housing. I know where that sheep-dipper keeps all his lube. He says this transistorized Barcalounger "calms the mind" and allows you to put suggestions into the victim's brain, any kind of suggestion. Now, this is my kind of furniture. Imagine, you invite to your cabin an uptight ensign keeping her D-cups to herself, and tell her it's a space-age massage chair with built-in manicure. Just sit her down, dial the innuendo setting to infinity and bang, she's under your sheets faster than a tribble gets pregnant. Dr. Electroshock Therapy has to go fill out some purchase orders for straitjackets or something, and Miss Shrink The Mini-Skirt wants to go have another peek at the hypnochair. Like a wet cadet fresh from Cornhole, Iowa, I volunteer to sit down just to get things moving so we can bolt. I've got a date with a ginger lab tech that night and the manscaping is overdue. Now, I guess Dr. Horny Noel forgot Captain Kirk's prime directive when it comes to bagging space strange, and that's "Love 'em and leave 'em." I suppose she didn't get her fill when I played Santa Claus down her chimney last year, so she starts cranking up the mindfuck knob and cooing sweet somethings into my brainpan about reliving the xmas party and giving me a hard-on that could penetrate the twelve days of deflector shields. Before the fun can get started, Dr. Ascot-and-a-Perm comes back and switches this evening's programming from "Hide the Yule Log" to "Here's How a Federation Tax Audit Feels," and I'm screaming like a Horta looking at her eggs going into a gravel tumbler. Who the fuck knows what happened next but I came to with the lights out, and when they came on again I was strangling Dr. Electroshock for disallowing my expenses on penicillin and condoms as itemized deductions. Well, apparently Miss Kiss Me Santa crawled through a hole in the wall, shut off the juice, Spock beamed down with the usual look of priceless bugfuckery on his face, and it turns out that the Adams guy I left in the brain scrambler couch thought a dandy idea would be to stare at the mental eraser beams until his mind was emptier than Scotty's wallet on any given day of the week. At least he wants you to think it's empty. Fucking skinflint penny-pinching Scotsman. Anyway, clearly this mind blender lounge chair is too dangerous to keep around, especially if Dr. Holiday On Thighs is planning to use it to rekindle our relationship. We destroy it, which is a real pisser because I wanted to use it to convince Sulu that he's straight. After all, I have a reputation for achieving the impossible.

40 So a whole bunch of regulars are co-bloggers until the Head Ewok is found?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 21, 2010 10:00 PM (yfJ6g)

Or the Ewok's head is found. Or the Ewok finds Head.

41 But that raises an interesting thought.  I wouldn't mind this crap nearly as much if it were being conducted by current members of the military.  I guess it's a confidence thing. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 21, 2010 10:02 PM (UcOiF)

Soldiers wouldn't do that stuff

42 and how is War both sixth and tenth in terms of sock puppetting?? I'z no good with da math, but even I can figure that out.

I didn't compile the stats I just posted what was provided by Maetenloch

43

and how is War both sixth and tenth in terms of sock puppetting?? I'z no good with da math, but even I can figure that out.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 10:01 PM (1faOt)

Two different IP addresses = two different hashes? Just a guess.

44

and how is War both sixth and tenth in terms of sock puppetting?? I'z no good with da math, but even I can figure that out.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 10:01 PM (1faOt)

One is a candy mint, one is a breath mint.

45

Oh Good Lord, ENOUGH.

Why don't we just ask a million monkeys pounding away at a million keyboards to write new posts for us??

Today was the first day that like 10 new people were given the opportunity to blog a bit(myself included)

It'll calm down soon. We're like kids who just got a new toy.

46 So, if your girlfriend gives you a bull frog, it's over?

47 I tried so hard not to make the lists this week.

FML

48 It is dark. But she had said she was going to Disneyland today, althought that might have been a ploy.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2010 10:02 PM (CN+Qv)

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!! 

Sorry, that was just so funny.

49 37 ...Kratos, on the other hand...  I actually think a Tie goes the previous week's winner.  Almost 300 comments less and still ties for first.

So does this mean we're not allowed to tease him mercilessly?

50 Can everybody calm down . . . we are getting instructions from Ace on a Vonage line being forwarded from the Caymans to Slim's house in Reseda back to Jersey and there's a lot of clicking and moaning, not to mention the second hand smoke is awful, just awful.

51

...Kratos, on the other hand...  I actually think a Tie goes the previous week's winner.  Almost 300 comments less and still ties for first.

So does this mean we're not allowed to tease him mercilessly?

Hm by that rule that's my third second place finish, out of three tries.

52 Soldiers wouldn't do that stuff

MP's do it all the time doing customs inspections, or at least they used to coming back from Korea and the PI

53

Sorry, that was just so funny.

Posted by: Editor at November 21, 2010 10:06 PM (YX6i/)

Why? She mentioned it to someone right around the 666 derby on thursday.

54 So does this mean we're not allowed to tease him mercilessly?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 21, 2010 10:06 PM (yfJ6g)

What?  I don't think I came anywhere close to suggesting such a thing.  Proceed.

55 You know, I've been trying to write a paper for half the day and my neighbors insist on band practice. Turn down the amp, dude!

56 MP's do it all the time doing customs inspections, or at least they used to coming back from Korea and the PI

Posted by: chad at November 21, 2010 10:08 PM (WNcvq)

They might search, but it would be necessary and effective, rather than irrational and violating.

57 I'm kinda starting to like Darryl.  He's a sonofabitch, but he seems to know what the hell he's doing.

58

60 You know, I've been trying to write a paper for half the day and my neighbors insist on band practice. Turn down the amp, dude!
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 21, 2010 10:09 PM (yfJ6g)

< Subject please.

59 They might search, but it would be necessary and effective, rather than irrational and violating.

Shit, if the TSA goons were replaced with active military -- or, even better, hot young cadets -- I'd fly 4x per week. 

'Cause I'm a dirty old woman.  That's why. 

60

But that raises an interesting thought.  I wouldn't mind this crap nearly as much if it were being conducted by current members of the military.  I guess it's a confidence thing. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 21, 2010 10:02 PM (UcOiF)

Sure, its all about the confidence and professionalism.  Not that they would be men in the range of 20-35 in top physical condition doing it.

61 American Top Gear on History. Works for me.

62 Shit, if the TSA goons were replaced with active military -- or, even better, hot young cadets -- I'd fly 4x per week. 

'Cause I'm a dirty old woman.  That's why. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 21, 2010 10:11 PM (UcOiF)

And they would wave you through.

63 Is this the ONT or the mid evening OT?

64

It'll calm down soon. We're like kids who just got a new toy.

Posted by: Ben

 

Ben, those batteries in the vibrator will wear out soon.  Just don't get too excited with it.

65 63 60 

< Subject please.

The life and times of Queen Victoria squeezed into 9pp, which is difficult even when just focusing on personal matters.

66 Sure, its all about the confidence and professionalism.  Not that they would be men in the range of 20-35 in top physical condition doing it.

heh.  See @64 and GET OUT OF MY HEAD!  ;-)

67 66>>> American Top Gear on History. Works for me.

After watching the first ten minutes I already hate it. They couldn't have picked three more unappealing no-name hosts.

68 Is this the ONT or the mid evening OT?

Posted by: robtr at November 21, 2010 10:13 PM (hVDig)

robtr, remember, you're on the West Coast... Not Hawaii.

69 Divining the above stats with advanced arithmetic and the disemboweled guts of a toad, I have determined that The War Between The Undead States ranks third in total sockpuppetry.

70

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 21, 2010 10:13 PM (yfJ6g)

Just get the World Book.

71 Is this the ONT or the mid evening OT?

Beats me. I'm still trying to figure out what the ' Midday Overnight Open Thread' was.

72

The life and times of Queen Victoria squeezed into 9pp, which is difficult even when just focusing on personal matters.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 21, 2010 10:13 PM

That's one child per page.

73 I was told that no toads would be harmed.....

74 I think noname hosts are better. I think the Cobra v Viper thing is just stupid enough to capture the Top Gear vibe.

75 Divining the above stats with advanced arithmetic and the disemboweled guts of a toad, I have determined that The War Between The Undead States ranks third in total sockpuppetry.

Posted by: Robert at November 21, 2010 10:14 PM (fG88N)

Thats only if none of the puppets were shared between the two Wars.  if all of them were duplicates, he wouldn't move up at all.

76

robtr, remember, you're on the West Coast... Not Hawaii.

Posted by: Editor at November 21, 2010 10:14 PM (YX6i/)

You don't know that, I could have went to SEATAC for the handjob and stayed for the flight.

77 Shorpy > Guess the location

It's the original size photo, which makes it much harder to cheat. Note the figures on the building and the cannon on the front lawn.

78

Beats me. I'm still trying to figure out what the ' Midday Overnight Open Thread' was.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 10:15 PM (1faOt)

Its always overnight somewhere in the world

79 I could have went to SEATAC for the handjob and stayed for the flight.

Posted by: robtr at November 21, 2010 10:16 PM (hVDig)

Weeellllll, did you?

80 76 Is this the ONT or the mid evening OT?

Beats me. I'm still trying to figure out what the ' Midday Overnight Open Thread' was.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 10:15 PM (1faOt)

< Twas, MOOT.

81 Can the Early Morning Overnight Thread be far behind?

82 @43: I'm eyeing your post, Kirk, real closr 'cause I figure there's just GOTTA be a pony in there somewhere...

83 George Orwell might have finished 4th in sockpuppeting quantity, but no one beat him in quality.

84

Weeellllll, did you?

Posted by: Editor at November 21, 2010 10:17 PM (YX6i/)

Nah, I'm here in balmy Kirkland

85 83

Beats me. I'm still trying to figure out what the ' Midday Overnight Open Thread' was.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 10:15 PM (1faOt)

It was the Guam edition.

86 77 That's one child per page.

LOL! Her kids were just something else.

I was fortunate to find many of the books written not long after her death, as well as her letters and those of her husband. What is giving me fits is that I always want to read the books, especially a more modern one entitled Twilight of Splendor: The Court of Queen Victoria During Her Diamond Jubilee Year.

87 Shit, if the TSA goons were replaced with active military -- or, even better, hot young cadets -- I'd fly 4x per week. 

'Cause I'm a dirty old woman.  That's why. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 21, 2010 10:11 PM (UcOiF)

"Ma'am, I'm afraid that you've already gone through security twice.  And, well, that outfit doesn't leave enough to hide anything..."

88 Christie is wrong about his Chief of Staff ("Thanks oh so much for stopping by").    Having somebody try to kill you, then asking them over to apologize in person? That's worthy of "Boardwalk Empire" or "The Untouchables."    But when they get all up in your grille, and you're about to Make The Phone Call, and your consigliore says to them on the way out, "Thanks for dropping by," that's real Jersey stuff. That's worthy of the Corleones. She's gonna wake up with a horse head in her bed.    I haven't seen yet whether this guy speaks Conservative, or Tea Party, but he sure can speak New Jersey. Like a native.   

89 Is Travis the Chimp still fucking that frog? It's Not Easy Being Green, folks.

90 Ace spotted in Japan.

91 Just HOW full of long and hand guns and ammo is supposed to be that bag the Walking Dead sheriff is toting? Wouldn't he be dragging that bag?

92 Damn, I hate to see those neck injuries like Hobbs just took. That looked nasty in slow-mo, like his head was driven down into his lungs

93 So, robtr, you got snow then, too.  We were in Bellevue (Factoria East, area), today (along with runningrn & husband) and it was coming down pretty good when we got back on I-90. 

94 I can't believe i mad it onto the comment wall of shame. I worked so hard. There are so many people to thank.

95 97 Damn, I hate to see those neck injuries like Hobbs just took. That looked nasty in slow-mo, like his head was driven down into his lungs

Was it another helmet-to-helmet?

96 The main reason I work is to ensure that I don't make it back on that list.

97 Just HOW full of long and hand guns and ammo is supposed to be that bag the Walking Dead sheriff is toting? Wouldn't he be dragging that bag?

Assuming 3.3 kg on average for a long weapon, then he'd be carrying 40-50 pounds, I'd guess.

98

I wish it would snow here.

Or at least get colder for Turkey day. I don't want 60 degree temps on Thurs.

I'm a nut that way, I s'pose.

99 79 >>> I think noname hosts are better. I think the Cobra v Viper thing is just stupid enough to capture the Top Gear vibe.

Got no problem with the no-name host route -- but these guys strike me as just too frat douche-ish. I suspect their interpersonal dialogue will be littered far too frequently with the word "dude." I'm not convinced that they have any on-camera appeal or wit like their British counterparts.

100 So, robtr, you got snow then, too.  We were in Bellevue (Factoria East, area), today (along with runningrn & husband) and it was coming down pretty good when we got back on I-90. 

Posted by: Editor at November 21, 2010 10:21 PM (YX6i/)

We had light snow all day, it didn't stick. Which reminds me that I have to buy some new tires.

101 and how is War both sixth and tenth in terms of sock puppetting?? I'z no good with da math, but even I can figure that out.

'Cause I'm a greedy bastard.  Plus I suck at math.

102 LOL! Her kids were just something else.

I was fortunate to find many of the books written not long after her death, as well as her letters and those of her husband. What is giving me fits is that I always want to read the books, especially a more modern one entitled Twilight of Splendor: The Court of Queen Victoria During Her Diamond Jubilee Year.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 21, 2010 10:20 PM (yfJ6g)

I'm re-reading a book by Massie - "Dreadnought" about the battleship race between England and Germany. It has a lot of interesting information about Queen V, since her daughter was the Kaiser's mother.

103 99: wife went to visit her folks? My post AND sperm counts shot WAY up when mine was away the last few weeks.

104

It'll calm down soon. We're like kids who just got a new toy.

Posted by: Ben

 

Ben, those batteries in the vibrator will wear out soon.  Just don't get too excited with it.

it's always a dildo, never the dildo,  we use the indefinite article, it's company policy not to imply ownership.

 

105 Well the high for Turkey day in Bismarck will be 5 degrees, and I am so glad that I will not be there this year.

106 It's so cold, robtr.  So cold.  It's supposed to get below 20... I might die.  In fact, I'm almost certain of it.

107 What class is this for, Miss'80sBaby? She had a very interesting life.

108 What's the deal with the redneck sawing off his own hand instead of the small gauge rebar to which he was cuffed?

109 and how is War both sixth and tenth in terms of sock puppetting?? I'z no good with da math, but even I can figure that out. Some from work, some from home. He is not the first puppeteer to accomplish this.

110 Damn, I hate to see those neck injuries like Hobbs just took. That looked nasty in slow-mo, like his head was driven down into his lungs

Trying to find it on Youtube.

111 I swear the nfl need to ban face masks.  It would slow down hits and make guys think twice before becoming a human missile.

112 He is not the first puppeteer to accomplish this.

Posted by: fluffy at November 21, 2010 10:28 PM (4Kl5M)

Blaizer did it several times before he swallowed his own tongue.

113 Editor, I hope you have your car and tires in shape for the arrival of mini editor. I think the global warming is going to be unbearable this winter.

114 107 

I'm re-reading a book by Massie - "Dreadnought" about the battleship race between England and Germany. It has a lot of interesting information about Queen V, since her daughter was the Kaiser's mother.

Yes, "the grandmother of Europe" and her army of children and grandchildren. But I have to say I respect Queen Victoria more now than I did before I started the project. Should also add the book you mentioned to my book list.

115 OKay changed my mind about Top Gear. They are carrying on the Stig thing? Err, no.

116 I swear the nfl need to ban face masks.  It would slow down hits and make guys think twice before becoming a human missile.

I saw an article about 2 weeks ago about a proposal to the rules committee that would drastically redesign helmets with that in mind.  If I can find it again I will post the link.

117

I'm re-reading a book by Massie - "Dreadnought" about the battleship race between England and Germany. It has a lot of interesting information about Queen V, since her daughter was the Kaiser's mother.

house of Hanover right?>

118 Birthdays - Sunday, November 21st 2010

Goldie Hawn (65)!

119 Anybody notice its a Blue moon tonight?

120 I swear the nfl need to ban face masks.  It would slow down hits and make guys think twice before becoming a human missile.

Reducing the padding that players wear would be the best option.  Make lighter hits hurt more, and players will start being careful.

121 112 What class is this for, Miss'80sBaby? She had a very interesting life.

Modern Europe. I'm a post-grad but I decided to take an undergrad course since I'm a bit weak on Eastern European history prior to the mid-1800s.

122 114 "and how is War both sixth and tenth in terms of sock puppetting?? I'z no good with da math, but even I can figure that out." Some from work, some from home. He is not the first puppeteer to accomplish this. Posted by: fluffy at November 21, 2010 10:28 PM (4Kl5M) Ahhh, a fellow federal employee! YOUR tax dollats at work, Morons!

123 Even the zombie apocalypse isn't enough to clean out the illegal alien problem.

124

Yes, "the grandmother of Europe" and her army of children and grandchildren. But I have to say I respect Queen Victoria more now than I did before I started the project. Should also add the book you mentioned to my book list.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 21, 2010 10:30 PM (yfJ6g)

Well after the first half it gets more into various government ministers - although a lot of gossip for the Germans and English leaders too. Well written, he's the author of "Nicholas and Alexandra", which is more famous. There's a sequel that moves on through WWI.

125 Reducing the padding that players wear would be the best option.  Make lighter hits hurt more, and players will start being careful.
Posted by: Alex at November 21, 2010 10:32 PM

Make the pads heavier and the game will slow down.  That's a big part of the problem.

126 I'm a bit weak on Eastern European history prior to the mid-1800s.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 21, 2010 10:33 PM (yfJ6g)

Five words: "Catherine the Great" and "small pony".

127 122 house of Hanover right?>

For Victoria? Yes.

Father: Hanover
Mother: Hanover and Saxe-Coburg & Gotha

128 good evening all
I'm watching Centurion - wow it's a bloody movie
and what is the Army of Morons?

129 he Ellis Hobbs hit. http://tinyurl.com/2blj5bo

130

I'll give the Walking Dead this, at least they're not only including the stereotypical redneck southerner.  They've also included the stereotypical Cholo gangbanger.

131 So, does this army of morons guild require the guildies to wear pants?

132

house of Hanover right?>

Posted by: Ben at November 21, 2010 10:31 PM (DKV43)

The Hannover kings I believe ended before Queen Victoria, with their various Georges. She formed the line that eventually was named house of Windsor, or Moutbatten-Windsor.

133 129 Well after the first half it gets more into various government ministers - although a lot of gossip for the Germans and English leaders too. Well written, he's the author of "Nicholas and Alexandra", which is more famous. There's a sequel that moves on through WWI.

Definitely adding it to my list.

134 They've also included the stereotypical Cholo gangbanger.

Posted by: buzzion at November 21, 2010 10:36 PM (oVQFe)

They need the guy from Brookyn for the trifecta.

135

Editor, 20 below? Where's you at again?

136 The thread suddenly slowed down... Has some enterprising co-blogger posted a Late Evening Pre-Nightime ONT?

137 No not 20 below.  Below 20.  Two different things.

138 The Hannover kings I believe ended before Queen Victoria, with their various Georges. She formed the line that eventually was named house of Windsor, or Moutbatten-Windsor.

Technically, Victoria was a Hanover, since she was a direct descendant of the Georges, in the male line. When she married Albert, her kids became part of the house of Saxe-Coburg. And Wilhelm II was a Hohenzollern.

139 137 The Hannover kings I believe ended before Queen Victoria, with their various Georges. She formed the line that eventually was named house of Windsor, or Moutbatten-Windsor.

The 1st monarch from the House of Windsor is George V.

140

Five words: "Catherine the Great" and "small pony".

Posted by: TexasJew at November 21, 2010 10:35 PM

Fallacy.

141 113 What's the deal with the redneck sawing off his own hand instead of the small gauge rebar to which he was cuffed?

I think you answered your own question

142

Miss 80's, was the Shorpy a trick question? I guessed Wayne might be Detroit, went as far as making sure Ferry Seed was a Detroit firm, then read the caption. The caption says it is Detroit.

Presume you have already read Tuchman's The Proud Tower? If not, drop everything and go and get it. It covers the end of Victoria's reign, the birth of modern liberalism, and the period up until Guns of August, just about minute by minute. Also great stuff on American Victorianism, and the career of TB Reed, without whom we wouldn't care who was Speaker of the House. Adn, she is some people's idea of a conservative, too, just ot add a chewy center.

Sorry this isn't in a book thread, but I'm trying to help with homework you see.

143 Definitely adding it to my list.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 21, 2010 10:37 PM (yfJ6g)

Its a fine book, just wanted to give fair warning to you. Oh and that book you mentioned about the court is in stock on Amazon. I wasn't sure if you couldn't find it or just was dismayed about the price if you bought all the ones you wanted to read.

144 125 I swear the nfl need to ban face masks.  It would slow down hits and make guys think twice before becoming a human missile.

Reducing the padding that players wear would be the best option.  Make lighter hits hurt more, and players will start being careful.

Posted by: Alex at November 21, 2010 10:32 PM (yY28H)

look at the pads players were wearing in the 80's and 90's.  Compare them to today.  The padding is reduced.  You used to not be able to tell if a player had a neck when they were wearing shoulder pads.

145 131 I'm a bit weak on Eastern European history prior to the mid-1800s. Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 21, 2010 10:33 PM (yfJ6g) Five words: "Catherine the Great" and "small pony". - Texas Jew SHE didn't call me small, Little Putz.

146 142 No not 20 below.  Below 20.  Two different things.

Posted by: Editor at November 21, 2010 10:38 PM (YX6i/)

oops.  didn't read it closely enough. 

147 The 1st monarch from the House of Windsor is George V.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 21, 2010 10:40 PM (yfJ6g)

That is because they renamed it in the war, not because it was an actual new family line. George V was the son of the Edward.

But  I was wrong about Victora - apparently she is counted as Hannoverian herself, although her sons were not.

148 Okay, well this thread is not necessarily dying, but it needs a theme...

I'm now open to taking suggestions on what to get the Baby upon being born.  A gift from Daddy. 

149 Nothing says hot thread like a history paper on Queen Victoria.

150 Christie has balls that fucking clank.

151 What's the deal with the redneck sawing off his own hand instead of the small gauge rebar to which he was cuffed? Posted by: USS Diversity TV Writing 101: Emotion trumps logic.

152 As you may know, the unofficial Five Year Mission is to seek out new pussy for Kirk to deflower.

No matter how much danger we were in, the lives of the crew and the ship itself were secondary to the Captain's Log. There was even one time we had to go hunting all over the galaxy to find him because he'd taken a shot to the head and went all Dances With Wolves on us. Took long enough too because he had time to knock up some Algonquin Princess and had himself proclaimed a god too. Hell, they were just joking in Starfleet that the difference between God and Kirk was that God didn't think he was Jim Kirk

The inhabitants of Earth should be glad that Capt Libido didn't have a hot date right as the roll of giant quarters was turning the whole planet into Seattle. No matter what, Jim Kirk getting laid is the Prime Directive.

I need to get laid once every 7 years or my balls will bust. Does Kirk divert some bullshit ceremony so the Federation diplomats can have a photo op? Oh no, for once the prick decides to go by the book and actually follow orders to the letter. The clueless fuck actually sends in Man Hands Chapel with a bowl of fucking soup in the hope I'd actually hit that tranny.

We get to Vulcan, and the Grand Exalted Old Bag of Vulcan is there to officiate my wedding. The little bitch my parents fixed me up with from birth decides she actually wants me to fight for her. What the hell is it with these arranged marriages on Vulcan anyway, are we Armenians or something? She gets to pick the guy who will take the business end of the giant can opener I'll use to bisect anybody who gets in the way of me getting laid. Instead of the uberdork she'd made a deal with before, she picks Capt Cocksman. Queen Helen Thomas tells Kirk that the little tart was probably just kidding and he didn't have to face me and my raging hormones. Kirk decides what the hell, she's pretty hot and if he's got to risk being sliced open, a lay is a lay is a lay.

I can whip Kirk with one hand tied behind my back even in normal climes, not to mention fighting in heat like Phoenix Arizona and air thinner than Denver. McCoy figures this out and gives Kirk an overdose of Cialis so his hardon will take the blood out of his head long enough to simulate death.  For some reason this takes the edge off my blue balls, I guess nobody can hold a hardon when you're facing life busting dilithium rocks on some prison asteriod.

153 I'll give the Walking Dead this, at least they're not only including the stereotypical redneck southerner.  They've also included the stereotypical Cholo gangbanger.

Yes, but the redneck southerner is a Nazi (notice the Iron Cross on his belt buckle last week?) while the Cholo gangbanger is a misunderstood community leader.

And we're in the second straight week of almost no zombie action at all.

This show is starting to annoy me.  At this rate I'm not going to miss it over the 11 months until the second season.

154 I'm now open to taking suggestions on what to get the Baby upon being born.  A gift from Daddy.

umm... a hooker?
well, maybe wait on that one for a few years

155 Screw WoW... will there be one for Star Wars The Old Republic?

156 Monday:
Patchy morning fog, dense in spots, otherwise partly cloudy, with a high around 71. Calm winds becoming S at 5 to 10 mph.

Posted by: Vlad Dracul III, Prince of Wallonia at November 21, 2010 10:46 PM (uCjoj)

So the dread Prince Dracula is now a weathergirl?

157 147 Miss 80's, was the Shorpy a trick question? I guessed Wayne might be Detroit, went as far as making sure Ferry Seed was a Detroit firm, then read the caption. The caption says it is Detroit.

Yes. Posted the original so the caption wouldn't be so obvious. But you would never guess it was Detroit from looking at the building in the foreground.

Presume you have already read Tuchman's The Proud Tower? If not, drop everything and go and get it. It covers the end of Victoria's reign, the birth of modern liberalism, and the period up until Guns of August, just about minute by minute...

The Guns of August, yes; The Proud Tower, no. My mentor recommended both of them to me but I've never been able to finish The Proud Tower. 

158 Monday:
Patchy morning fog, dense in spots, otherwise partly cloudy, with a high around 71. Calm winds becoming S at 5 to 10 mph.

Posted by: Vlad Dracul III, Prince of Wallonia at November 21, 2010 10:46 PM (uCjoj)

Unless there is a storm, its not usual for snow to stick for long in Cincy before nearly Christmas.

159

with a high around 71

holy crap! is that mine or yours??.....

off to check the weather report. 70 in nov. not happy.

160 I'm now open to taking suggestions on what to get the Baby upon being born.  A gift from Daddy. 
Posted by: Editor at November 21, 2010 10:46 PM

Gold from Rosland Capital!

161 Hey, Miss'80sBaby? While we're on the subject of Dracula, have you studied the Transylvanian Saxons at all?

162 Walking Dead takes place in an alternate Universe USA. A USA that doesn't have gun shops, warehouses, Home Depots, and car dealerships fucking everywhere. One Walmart warehouse will keep 200,000 people alive for 25 years. Sheesh.

163 I'm now open to taking suggestions on what to get the Baby upon being born.  A gift from Daddy. 

Posted by: Editor at November 21, 2010 10:46 PM (YX6i/)

A wind up swing. Best invention since the wheel. They are probably nuclear powered these days but the best baby invention made.

164 Yes, but the redneck southerner is a Nazi (notice the Iron Cross on his belt buckle last week?) while the Cholo gangbanger is a misunderstood community leader.

States at November 21, 2010 10:48 PM (F5Gxy)

That's dumb. You don't need to Nazi up a stereotypical redneck to make him racist and evil. Its overkill. All the bad features are pre-loaded.

Note: this does not mean that I think the Hollywood stereotype fits pretty much any actual Southerners.

 

165 St. Joseph will be 52 degrees tomorrow - nice

166

A gift from Daddy. 

open a college savings account. it's not going to ring 10 on the 'awwww' meter but it's necessary.

167 The first true arctic airmass has moved into the midwest & NW. 

Posted by: Vlad Dracul III at November 21, 2010 10:53 PM (uCjoj)

You ain't effing kidding.

168 155 

That is because they renamed it in the war, not because it was an actual new family line. George V was the son of the Edward.

But  I was wrong about Victora - apparently she is counted as Hannoverian herself, although her sons were not.

Yes. I was just commenting that she's the last Hanoverian, her son Edward is counted as being Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, and George V renamed S-C and G "Windsor".

Found this: When HG Wells wrote about Britain's "alien and uninspiring court", George famously replied: "I may be uninspiring, but I'll be damned if I'm alien."

169 I'm not sending my kids to college.  Hell, I'm not sending them to grade school.  I don't trust those bastards.

170 I'm now open to taking suggestions on what to get the Baby upon being born.  A gift from Daddy. 

Posted by: Editor at November 21, 2010 10:46 PM (YX6i/)

Get the entire collection of Beatrix Potter books. There are even some great TV adaptations. Pretty, cute, and all contain the message that if you don't obey your mama Farmer McGregor or Rats will eat you.

Invaluable.

171 Posted by: comatus at November 21, 2010 10:20 PM (hrwMe)

Does anyone have any idea how that story ends? i.e., is the guy who e-mailed the death-prayer still working? And is Christie still holding out for his firing before he'll talk with the President of the Teachers Union?

172 173 Hey, Miss'80sBaby? While we're on the subject of Dracula, have you studied the Transylvanian Saxons at all?

9yrs ago in high school, but only briefly.

173

I'm not sending my kids to college

c'mon, you want to at least have the money there  if they make the choice to go.

and no grade school either? who's homeschooling??

174 I'm not sending my kids to college.  Hell, I'm not sending them to grade school.  I don't trust those bastards.

Your kids can't be that bad.

175 Giants have come back. They lead 17-16.

176 ...all contain the message that if you don't obey your mama Farmer McGregor or Rats will eat you.

Invaluable.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2010 10:57 PM (CN+Qv)

Oh, I like that.  My wife's way too sweet, so this could help.  Though, I have seen her with her niece and nephew and she didn't take no shit.

177 who's homeschooling??

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 10:57 PM (1faOt)

One friend of mine was committed to do that. Another started his own private school for a few years to get his kids out of public elementary schools.

178 Ah.  Now that's more like it.

179 174 20 below?  That's like where our favorite troll what's his nuts his from right?

Posted by: CDR M at November 21, 2010 10:51 PM (5I8G0)

<  You can have nuts at 20 below? That wx is some cold shtuff.  

180

Oh, I like that.  My wife's way too sweet, so this could help.  Though, I have seen her with her niece and nephew and she didn't take no shit.

Posted by: Editor at November 21, 2010 11:00 PM (YX6i/)

There's a real short one called "The Nasty Bad Rabbit" about a bunny who bullies other rabbits and steals their stuff. A hunter shoots his tail off.

 

181 I'm now open to taking suggestions on what to get the Baby upon being born. A gift from Daddy.
Posted by: Editor at November 21, 2010 10:46 PM


You mean something besides the food, clothing, shelter, diapers, furniture, heating oil, water, getting-born-bills, and other stuff you'll be paying for? Give him/her your empty wallet. Babies like to gnaw things.

182

and no grade school either? who's homeschooling??

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 10:57 PM (1faOt)

I'm being a little facetious, here.  A little.  Don't know what we're gonna do.  I hope to do a lot of one-on-one in addition to what they get at school.  I want critical thinkers... like me.

I hope to at least send them to private school through at least grade school... though I'm starting to get leery of them, too.

Anyone have experience with co-ops?  I'd like them to get social skills, too, but I think that starts much earlier than school.

183 You had more history in high school than I had, apparently.

184 And not coincidentally, that final five minutes was about the only scene in the entire episode that came directly from the comic.  The rest of this stuff is leaden-paced filler.

185 who's homeschooling?? Posted by: laceyunderalls

We homeschooled for ~20yrs. Youngest in 8th grade now. Wifey finally has lots of time on her hands.

186 Need to go to bed like.. now. But wtf happened here today?

187

editor, you should just keep it simple. pen a letter explaning what the baby means to you. I've done that w/my niece and nephews w/the direction that they can read the letters upon their First Communion. pretty neat idea.

188 My cousin's wife has home-schooled their six kids.  She's a very brave Air Force wife.

189

Posted by: Editor at November 21, 2010 11:04 PM (YX6i/)

My only other advice is to teach him or her to read well before school. It will give the child escape from the awful new education methods, and you parents some peace and quiet or bonding time.

190 Oh, the Complete Beatrix Potter series is only $26 from Amazon.  I think I had them as a kid, too.  Hmm...

191

While Vlad gets nailed for being an impaling asshole (err pardon the poking pun - heh), there is a lot of debate as to whether he was a "bad" guy or not. He did indeed enjoy a good impaling or two (because I mean, who doesn't, really?) but there is some evidence that he wasn't an indiscriminate murderer - that his actions were not really out of the ordinary for the times - that his subjects (those he was supposedly torturing) loved him. Hell, if you mention his name in Romania today, he's revered as a hero.

Posted by: Arne Fucking Duncan at November 21, 2010 11:01 PM (uCjoj)

Don't forget he made the Turks shit their pants.  The image of him as the vampire has probably tarnished him some and made the rest of the world view him as a bloodthirsty murderer.  I think its much more likely that he was a ruler for his time and place and certainly worthy of respect given to other "good" rulers of his time period.

192 Oh, the Complete Beatrix Potter series is only $26 from Amazon.  I think I had them as a kid, too.  Hmm...

Posted by: Editor at November 21, 2010 11:08 PM (YX6i/)

If you don't hurry I'll buy them for you and you'll have to find something else.

193 I'm thinking of buying a pair of ruffled pink panties at Nordstroms.  What are your thoughts?

BTW, The Walking Dead was outstanding.

194

You remember when people would complain about the lack of threads on the weekends?  Well, we decided to change that today.  Like Ben said earlier, we were just trying out the new car so to speak.

Posted by: CDR M at November 21, 2010 11:08 PM (5I8G0)

So now everyone is complaining about too many threads.

195 Seriously, fuck the simpsons. 2 minutes into the fucking thing and a stab at fox news. Same thing last week. I'm done with the simpsons, fan for 20 seasons.

196

My only other advice is to teach him or her to read well before school.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2010 11:07 PM (CN+Qv)

That's a given... though, I'm not a big reader, myself.  I think, because reading was never a big thing to my parents.  *shrugs*.

197 The Winnie the Pooh books are good too. Very complex writing for children's books.

198

Editor, make you have lots of music, good music.  I was at a party recently and they had a baby grand piano and someone started playing it and it sparked the room. Classical to rock to everything in between was being played.  Good music is balance, in measured doses - had to throw that in.

199

So now everyone is complaining about too many threads.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2010 11:11 PM (CN+Qv)

No, not complaining.  We're just asking for a reprieve so we can recover from our epileptic seizures.

200 Regardless of how this game turns out, the Giants just showed the NFL how to neuter Vick.

201 Yeah, we're already doing the music.  Wife wears a pair of headphones over the belly with music playing.  Baby seems to enjoy it. 

202 65 Monday 35 Tuesday. Snow by T-giving.  The midwest is fun in winter. 

203 Posted by: mpfs at November 21, 2010 11:10 PM (3TjSM)

Model them for us and we will tell you.

204 I just went to the dullest, most geriatric bridal shower ever.

205 220 I'm thinking of buying a pair of ruffled pink panties at Nordstroms.  What are your thoughts?

You'll have to model them in front of your webcam before I can make a definitive conclusion.

206 Regardless of how this game turns out, the Giants just showed the NFL how to neuter Vick.

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at November 21, 2010 11:15 PM (LlX9m)

Its not that hard. The Bengals held him to 1-10 passing  with 2 picks in preseason. And some sacks.

207 I just went to the dullest, most geriatric bridal shower ever.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at November 21, 2010 11:18 PM (YxBuk)

Were the brides geriatric? Or just the party. I'd think at some point you'd skip the preliminary stuff if you aren't into it.

208

I just went to the dullest, most geriatric bridal shower ever.

awful. I detest showers. I won't throw them. or if I do I'll make sure there's plenty of liquor and absolutely no games. I hate that cutsie shit.

I make a *wonderful* bridesmaid.

209 I just went to the dullest, most geriatric bridal shower ever.

so, you mean the male stripper was wearing depends or something?

or am I getting that confused with something else?

210 Lacey,
You are my kind of bridesmaid.  I hate that shit,

211

open a college savings account.

Seconded.  Also, you might consider writing a letter to your child expressing how you feel about his/her arrival...would make a great 21st birthday gift (or whenever).

212

awful. I detest showers. I won't throw them. or if I do I'll make sure there's plenty of liquor and absolutely no games. I hate that cutsie shit.

I make a *wonderful* bridesmaid.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 11:20 PM (1faOt)

If I ever get to be a groom, I won't have a traditional bachelor party, either. If being single was so great, I wouldn't be getting married in the first place.

213 "Posted by: Spock at November 21, 2010 10:48 PM (vdfwz)" Rolls off my back like Yeoman Rand under my satin sheets. You're just jealous because your daddy and I compared swords. Turns out Mrs. Sarek prefers straight arrow Kirk to slanty Vulcan.

214

bachelorette parties are fine bc they are usually less stuffy. and usually don't come w/games. but showers?? blech, groan.

baby showers are the epitome of suck.

here. here's a diaper with imaginary poo in it that's really baby food. smell it and guess the type of baby food it is. ???????????????????/

are you fucking kidding me??

this is a good time for whom??

215 240 65 Monday 35 Tuesday. Snow by T-giving The front giveth, the front taketh away. Unfortunately the Euro & GFS models are handling the cold air quite differently from mid-week on, including how severe it will be. The Euro shows the main energy lifting back into Canada with significantly shallower (and milder) cold air by the time it gets to the east coast, while the GFS shows a sharper trough and colder airmass). Which will be the difference on whether it's 45 or 55 next weekend. Posted by: Chris in Va at November 21, 2010 11:21 PM (uCjoj) Did you perform at a bridal shower tonite?

216

I detest showers. I won't throw them. or if I do I'll make sure there's plenty of liquor and absolutely no games. I hate that cutsie shit.

Agreed.  I never go to those stupid things.  I'll send a gift, thanks.  Horrible way to spend a couple of hours.

217

Posted by: Maureen Dowd at November 21, 2010 11:24 PM (uCjoj)

If someone eligible got within reach, she'd be on him like a lamprey on a trout. With similar end results.

218 Okay Spock, you type better than I. So blow me.

219 I'm watching House of the Dead 2 on SyFy. Dear Lord this is bad and campy.

220 157 Nothing says hot thread like a history paper on Queen Victoria.

Posted by: TexasJew at November 21, 2010 10:46 PM (gRluJ)

< Tex, it's called pacing.  We can't hit ya all at once with the good stuff.

221

Of course again, it'd be really good if we had more information from the time period. This discussion made me read his Wiki entry for the first time (for what that's worth). I see it wasn't until the 19th century that the "Vlad the Murderous Barbarian" thing started.

Posted by: Chris in Va at November 21, 2010 11:15 PM (uCjoj)

Reading the wiki, it looks like the blame can be placed more at the ruler of Hungary than the Turks.  Power hungry rulers only interested in their own little world are the same no matter the time period.

222

Posted by: Maureen Dowd at November 21, 2010 11:28 PM (uCjoj)

Note that I said 'eligible'. Even Obama's trouser crease won't return Brooks' calls.

223 I'm watching House of the Dead 2 on SyFy. Dear Lord this is bad and campy.

What? Bad and campy flicks on SyFy? The hell you say.

224 235 220 I'm thinking of buying a pair of ruffled pink panties at Nordstroms.  What are your thoughts? You'll have to model them in front of your webcam before I can make a definitive conclusion. If you send me the video, I'll have Scotty beam her over. He's sober at the moment.

225
What? Bad and campy flicks on SyFy? The hell you say.

Posted by: Sweet Lucifer Morningstar at November 21, 2010 11:30 PM (q/Y+m)

Oh, I'm just wetting my pants with anticipation of Shaktopus II.

226 Oh Jesus H. Jigtoes Murphy -- Eagles intercept for the win.

227 Were the brides geriatric? Or just the party. I'd think at some point you'd skip the preliminary stuff if you aren't into it.

The bride is geriatric and so are her friends. It was bad. It was boring. Barely any food, nothing non alcoholic for us non drinkers and no games. I hate games too, but jeez, they needed to do *something.*

228 There is controversy over how "The War Between The Undead States" is ranked both 6th and 10th in the sockpuppeter category. I don't know, ask maetenloch when he get's back.

5 [41 names] '18-1'

6 [34 names] 'The War Between the Undead States'

Ix-nay on the ribe-bay.

229 bachelorette parties are fine bc they are usually less stuffy. and usually don't come w/games. but showers?? blech, groan.

I'm the reverse - I'd rather go to a shower than the bach party. I hate the bach party because it requires humiliating the bride. I'll take the bridal shower. If I had one, I'd make it a tea party. And no cutsie games. I hate that shit, too.

230 You know, this "Walking Dead" show is okay.  It's not quite up to the horror that ensues when the reanimated corpses of Rigelian blood plague victims get up off the slab, and space is a MILLION FUCKING TIMES more terrifying than anything they could come up with on these old 2D Earth vids, but it's still all right.  Kinda quaint.  But then I'm an old country doctor.  Maybe I'll ask Jim's brother who was killed by a swarm of flying fucking jellyfish what he thinks of this shit; I bet he'd laugh his dead ass off.

Whole thing kind of reminds me of this fucked-over situation Jim and Spock dragged me down to on Pyris VII.  It was this weird Halloween scene dreamed up by a couple of three-inch high aliens made out pipe cleaners and Nerf balls.  Yeah I know, that doesn't SOUND too threatening, but just ask Crewman Jackson how cute the little bastards were.  Oh that's right, you CAN'T ask Crewman Jackson about it, because the moment we beamed him back on board he tumbled off the transporter pad face first in a fall hard enough to liquefy neutronium.  Yep, fucker was dead, but that didn't keep him from talking to us afterward.  Walking dead indeed, baby.

Anyway, next thing I know I'm down there on the planet surface, and I don't know what I'm doing there.  I'm a DOCTOR, dammit, I don't deal with witches and giant cats and pipe-cleaner aliens and zombified crew members.  What the fuck was I supposed to do when Scotty and Sulu stumbled along with stares blanker than my ex-wife's when I told her I was signing on to the Flying Dutchman for five years just to get away from her nagging bitch ass?  NOTHING, that's what.  Anything that kept that hairless fucking twink Sulu from running around bare-chested couldn't be all bad anyway, and it was kind of nice not having to hear Scotty open up his braying mouth like when he calls up to the bridge every half-hour or so to warn us that the engines are headed straight to Shitville at Warp Factor Fuckall if Jim doesn't ease up on whatever Christ-humping joyride he happens to be taking them on.  I don't remember a whole lot after that and I was told by Jim later that the pipe-cleaner fucknozzles turned ME into a zombie for a while, which is no skin off my ass because at least I had an excuse for stumbling around like some limp-dicked Goddamned machine.  Let Jim eat this shit sandwich; it wasn't going on MY record.

I don't know, maybe this show isn't so great after all.  It's starting to depress me.  I was looking forward to getting back to Georgia after having my atoms scattered to hell and gone for five years, now I've got to wonder if there's going to be nothing there but rotting corpses when I get back.  Ah, fuck it, even if it is, it can't be worse than space.  Fuck space.

231

Is Maureen Dowd good looking? My right brain says no but left is challenging, citing artistic intelligence hotness. So is it ying, yang or yuck?

232

Oh, I'm just wetting my pants with anticipation of Shaktopus II.

Posted by: Editor at November 21, 2010 11:32 PM (YX6i/)

I'd just like to thank Syfy for helping people understand the difficulty in conserving endangered species. 

Ok, ok, I didn't watch the movie. But I still fondly remember when FDR put the Sharktopus on the Endangered Species List.

233

The bride is geriatric

So the bride is Mo Dowd!!

_{Not even a funny joke. Biggest fear in life is ending up like her.}

234 The bride is geriatric and so are her friends. It was bad. It was boring. Barely any food, nothing non alcoholic for us non drinkers and no games. I hate games too, but jeez, they needed to do *something.* You'll notice I never asked "What does God need with a hip flask?"

235

Is Maureen Dowd good looking? My right brain says no but left is challenging, citing artistic intelligence hotness. So is it ying, yang or yuck?

Posted by: Journolist at November 21, 2010 11:33 PM (O/NP5)

Hello, yes glad to see you remember me!

236 Oh and lacey, it gets better. Now there are parties for guessing the gender of the baby a couple is having! I kid you not.

237

Posted by: Dr. Leonard McCoy at November 21, 2010 11:33 PM (F5Gxy)

I liked that episode because of the giant black cat.

238 Oh and lacey, it gets better. Now there are parties for guessing the gender of the baby a couple is having! I kid you not.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at November 21, 2010 11:35 PM (YxBuk)

Well with seventeen genders and counting, that could be pretty challenging.

239 I think tonight is a full moon.

240 On the way home I saw a car papered in bumper stickers. The only one I caught said, "Bush Cheney for Prison."

241 I love Keyboard Kitteh!

http://tinyurl.com/295dayt

242 Maureen Dowd good looking [...] y [...] e [...] s [...] artistic intelligence hotness.

243

I kid you not.

fuck.that.

they'd have my rsvp of 'no' before it even hit  my mailbox.

what's worse -

that or the websites the bride and groom to be are creating to prep guests on their upcoming nuptials??

244 277 >>> On the way home I saw a car papered in bumper stickers. The only one I caught said, "Bush Cheney for Prison."

Toyota Prius or Subaru station wagon?

245 We got an invite to purchase seats at that Goldwater event.  No matter how funny and interesting it would have been to hear Gov. Christie speak, it was way too expensive.  Still... wish we could have gone. 

246 Seriously, fuck the simpsons. 2 minutes into the fucking thing and a stab at fox news. Same thing last week. I'm done with the simpsons, fan for 20 seasons.

Its entertaining when someone tries to be independent and you make fun of them for it. Don't these people know you are supposed to "think differently" in the right way?

247 this hash tonight, 1faOt, is giving me a complex

248 The Obama stickers have faded away greatly as well.

I wish that was the case here. I saw a Boxer 2010 sticker the other day. Blech.

Toyota Prius or Subaru station wagon?

Neither. I think it was a Geo Metro.

249 If only those god damn coexist stickers would spontaneously burst into flames.

Posted by: Maureen Dowd at November 21, 2010 11:38 PM (uCjoj)

Well its good for identifing idiots, who you have to keep an eye on when operating heavy machinery.

Like its any religon but one that has any issues with other religions that result in more than disapproval.

250 keyboard kitteh goes to avatar blue planet

251 271 Oh and lacey, it gets better. Now there are parties for guessing the gender of the baby a couple is having! I kid you not.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at November 21, 2010 11:35 PM (YxBuk)

Isn't that called a baby shower?

252

Like its any religon but one that has any issues with other religions that result in more than disapproval.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2010 11:40 PM (CN+Qv)

Dude, don't like, uh, forget the Crusades man! Christians were like, uh, beheading Buddhists in like Spain man! And this was like, uh, the 1940s!

As Hitler said, "Extremism in the defense of beheading is, like, a a good thing".

253

that or the websites the bride and groom to be are creating to prep guests on their upcoming nuptials??

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 11:37 PM (1faOt)

Well you can always stay away from the website without them noticing, unlike the party.

254 "Bush Cheney for Prison."

HEH - so I was househunting today - and went into this guy's garage, and what did he have but a big sign on the inside of the garage, DOLE FOR PRESIDENT

255

what's worse -

that or the websites the bride and groom to be are creating to prep guests on their upcoming nuptials??

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 11:37 PM (1faOt)

I like those websites... if they're simple.  I wouldn't do it for certain reasons, but it gives forgetful people like myself an easy place to go figure out the date.

I'd have to say a party specifically for guessing the sex of a baby would be worse.

256

Well you can always stay away from the website

yes, but then you can't mock it!

257 You're in errrrrrrrrr Waxman's district right?

Oh God no! I'm in Sherman's. I guess that's not that much better.

258

Dude, don't like, uh, forget the Crusades man! Christians were like, uh, beheading Buddhists in like Spain man! And this was like, uh, the 1940s!

Actually the Crusades did more damage to other Christians than the Muslims. See the 4th Crusade. That's not even counting the ones against heretics like the Albigensian crusade.

259 Anyway, next thing I know I'm down there on the planet surface, and I don't know what I'm doing there.  I'm a DOCTOR, dammit, I don't deal with witches Any man would have stood at full attention, if you know what I mean, to replace that witch woman's broomstick with a rod of sterner stuff. Forget your old man spectacles or you just don't like hot polymorphic alien strange? Oh I forgot, back in Rump Spread, Georgia, it's the sheep that get that sort of animal husbandry. I'll give you this much, Bones. You never tried to pass yourself off as a woman in sick bay. Can't say the same for your nurse.

260 Oh God no! I'm in Sherman's. I guess that's not that much better.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at November 21, 2010 11:45 PM (YxBuk)

Not that being in Giggedy's district makes any difference.

261 I'd have to say a party specifically for guessing the sex of a baby would be worse.

They call them "sex"or "gender" parties. And that's all it is. They do cutesy shit like bake pink or blue jelly beans/m&ms into a cupcake or cake so when you bite/cut into it you learn the sex of the baby. Whoopie! So frickin' retarded.

Agreed, on the website, though. I haven't seen any that are particularly obnoxious.

262

I wouldn't do it for certain reasons,

yeah but that's what The Knot is for. do your registry and give directions. easy peasy.

the website is just license to get all ghey with the tale of romance. it usually involves some cheesy black/whites or pictures of the happy couple on swings or doing something else incredibly stupid.

this probably sounds all bitter. not meant to be. I just can't stand schmaltz.

263 And we're in the second straight week of almost no zombie action at all.


Umm, I think they fixed that.

264 "287 The Obama stickers have faded away greatly as well." You clearly do not live in or near large cities, or Clownifornia.

265 Rum,
Have you been following the shooting of Ronnie Chasen (sp?) in Beverly Hills the other night?  That is some weird shit. 

266 lacey, I think the wife did a one page website that included a photo of the moment we got engaged: On the green of hole 17.  The ring was in the hole waiting for her when she made her putt. 

Think you'd be able to appreciate that.

267

is that the publicist, mpfs?

was it murder-for-hire? I think  that is what I heard. hubby in custody.

268 Think you'd be able to appreciate that.

Posted by: Editor at November 21, 2010 11:50 PM (YX6i/)

Good thing you didn't let another group play through...

269 Lacey.

She was a publicist but she wasn't married.  No clues, no one in custody.  It really is a mystery.

270

Good thing you didn't let another group play through...

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2010 11:51 PM (CN+Qv)

I dropped it in when I made mine.

271

I dropped it in when I made mine.

Posted by: Editor at November 21, 2010 11:52 PM (YX6i/)

So it took 17 holes before you beat her?

272

hubby in custody.

 

Wait, it was the husband? There was an update on that publicist murder?

273 Don't even get me started on Kirk and his pussy. You know I had him all set up to live out his days completely surrounded by epic galactic pieces of ass. 100's of the Trudy series, 100's of the Annabelle series, 100's of the Barbera series, and 100's of the Maizie series. He could have built 1000 of the S.E. Cupp series. The dumb fuck could have even built 10,000 of the Megyn Kelly series if he wanted. But noooo, he goes and puts on some fucking retard pantomime show and confuses Norman and shorts out the WHOLE fucking harem. Way to go torpedo head. You know,  they wondered why I only made 1 Norman, because he was as useless as a happy meal is to a vulcan.

 Anyway, to thank me for my troubles Kirk has to go make 500 copies of my beast of an ex wife Stella. That woman can make a star ship take a fucking dirt road. You know what that bitch did after you left? She ate the fucking Trudy series, the Barbera series, and the Annabelle series. No clue just what the hell she did with the Maizie series, but she went and put that fucking galactic douche tool Norman in a god damn thong and nailed him to the wall in the reception area. Thanks for nothing dickweed, I hope you end up cleaning Klingon bathrooms.

Oh btw Kirk, those miners on Rigel XII are pissed too. Turns out those 3 seahags I dumped there needed that Venus drug after all. Next time you're by a window press your ear against it, that screaming you  hear is ol' Ben Childress cursing your silly ass from 1000 light years away.... something about your ass and a dilithium crystal.

274 i do believe I like this better than a thread about Tesla

275

hmm, what the hell was I reading then...?

could have swore they showed a husband. a guy that looked way younger. I clearly have my celebrity stories mixed up.

276 286 this hash tonight, 1faOt, is giving me a complex

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 11:40 PM (1faOt)

Don't worry, you are beautiful and interesting.  Tell me about your day.

 

Now switch hands.  That's it.  Keeping going. 

 

Workout finished.  Here's some cabfare.  Going to sleep mode.

277 No one is in custody.  The cops don't have a clue to what happened.  They are trying to get as much security tape they can but nothing yet.

278 I've seen maybe one Obama sticker in the past couple of months.  2 years ago you couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting one.

279 The Kirk/Spock/McCoy/Scotty posts need to be collected and put out in print. There's gold in them there socks.

Cool ending to Walking Dead tonight.

280

So it took 17 holes before you beat her?

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2010 11:53 PM (CN+Qv)

Heh.  Actually, it's quite the story.  The round almost didn't happen.  We showed up and there was a dew delay.  So, when the wife (gf at the time, of course) went to use the restroom, I had to do some sweet talking in the pro shop.  They escorted us to hole 12 to start the round.  Wife said, "You must really want to play golf, today."

Heh.

281 G-d.  If I ever get married (so not likely), there won't be any parties.  There'll be some invitations with a date on them.  Happy pre-celebration!  Show up. 

I honestly do not get most of the pre-rituals associated with events.  Baby showers, ok... so people can give gifts ahead of time in order to stock up on clothes to free up money for the essentials.  I kind of get that.  But wedding stuff?  Eh.  It's some sort of bonding ritual between the bride and her friends?  I think?

I'm not even very keen on the idea of a reception.  If you don't hold one, then no one can complain later about it.

282 Have you been following the shooting of Ronnie Chasen (sp?) in Beverly Hills the other night?  That is some weird shit.

I think it was a hit. No way it was random, plus nothing was stolen. Although I don't understand - did they bash in the window or was it the number of bullets going through the window that caused it to just fall apart?

283 "317 i do believe I like this better than a thread about Tesla" Bohunk bugfucker. He was AC, I was DC. 'Nuff said.

284 WTF kind of sport has a "dew" delay???

285 I don't know which is sadder: the Star Trek War, or the fact I know all the references.

286

Think you'd be able to appreciate that.

I don't have a good [read:  honest] answer as I just spent the past 17 comments ripping on this sort of thing

let me put it this way, every girl I've known that did something similar has been uber high-maintenance and been the 'it's all about me!!!1!1!' type of bride. so that's the pov I'm coming from on this. you know the, it's my day! type of girl [and they never want just 'the day'. they want the year leading up to the day].

you and your wife, at least from how you've described her, hardly fit that bill.

287 I'm not even very keen on the idea of a reception.  If you don't hold one, then no one can complain later about it.

I love receptions! It's one big party! That's my favorite part of the wedding. Plus free food (and sometimes, usually, booze!)

288 No zombie discussion post?  And I came on to crow about how happy I was that Amy got "walked" as predicted.  Coulda told old man not to bother looking for wrapping paper...bitch was dead as soon as the words "It's her birthday tomorrow," came out of her sister's mouth.  So.....has Jim become psychic?  And where's Merle?

289 Rum,
I think it was a hit too.  John Phillips on KABC thinks it was mistaken identity hit.  I mean how many black Mercedes Benzes (sp) are their in Beverly Hills?

No shell casings, nothing stolen, five shots to the chest.

290

Heh.

Posted by: Editor at November 21, 2010 11:55 PM (YX6i/)

When my mom turned 50, the other kids wanted a surprise party. I hate that kind of thing, so I said to them - you figure out how to get her there, I'll pay but don't involve me.

So after going out for dinner, my sister says she left something at the hotel and we go there. Everyone gets out of the car but my mom, who sensibly was going to sit and wait.

I had to literally drag my mom into the hotel ballroom and push her in the door. She later said she was surprised - she just figured I had gone insane.

291 Yes, and that's why I gave you that other POV...

My wife was likely the easiest bride of all time.  We were both somewhat nervous, of course, but we were mostly into each other and everything else around us was just background noise. 

292 Walking Dead is just messing with me now. Been a while since i liked a show this much on the idiot box.

293 " I don't know which is sadder: the Star Trek War, or the fact I know all the references." Man, just think if you guys were talking about Lost In Space. Oh the pain, the pain.

294 I love receptions! It's one big party! That's my favorite part of the wedding. Plus free food (and sometimes, usually, booze!)

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at November 21, 2010 11:59 PM (YxBuk)

When my oldest sister got married, to an Iranian man, they got to listen to reports about the Hostage Rescue debacle. It was that day.

295 322 The Kirk/Spock/McCoy/Scotty posts need to be collected and put out in print. There's gold in them there socks.

Cool ending to Walking Dead tonight.

Posted by: Blackford Oakes at November 21, 2010 11:55 PM (0IR+C)

I told Kirk he needs to grab a blog, and a twitterfeed,  and keep posting these there until Paramount sends him a cease and desist letter.

296 John Phillips on KABC thinks it was mistaken identity hit.

Oh, I hadn't thought of that. I thought maybe she'd pissed off some Armenians or Russians or Persians or something.

297 Any man would have stood at full attention, if you know what I mean, to replace that witch woman's broomstick with a rod of sterner stuff. Forget your old man spectacles or you just don't like hot polymorphic alien strange?

I know you're different about these things Jim, but I don't fuck 150-pound cats.  Especially when they're made out of pipe cleaners.  Which reminds me, get down here so that I can yank out the catheter that was cleaning out your Captain's Log after its recent bout with Antarean clap.  And try keeping that fucking thing in your pants on just ONE landing mission.

298 A nice fence would have come in handy today on WD.

299 I will say probably the cutest thing I ever saw was a simple 'save the date' card. Actually it was a fridge magnet. It had their picture on it and they were jumping into the water [they enjoyed boating]. Said something like, 'we're finally taking the plunge'.

300 My wife was likely the easiest bride of all time.

My cousin in law was. She was chill with pretty much everything and didn't stress much at all that I could tell. Her matron of honor was a different story...

301 I am wanting to hear from the Crew of The Next Generation, DS9 and Voyager.

302 330 I'm not even very keen on the idea of a reception.  If you don't hold one, then no one can complain later about it.

I love receptions! It's one big party! That's my favorite part of the wedding. Plus free food (and sometimes, usually, booze!)

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at November 21, 2010 11:59 PM (YxBuk)

Honestly?  I like receptions as long as there's dancing.  Went to one where just the bride and groom danced, then they danced with their parents.  After that, everyone went home.  I flew 3000 miles just to sit and watch them dance.  (The rest of it was nice and enjoyable, though).

I do like the new(ish) tradition of the family having breakfast the morning after.  Maybe it's because I love breakfast foods, but it's so nice to be a part of that when it occurs.

Worst reception?  We sat around for about an hour after the ceremony waiting for the bridal party to come in from getting their pictures taken.  It was a buffet and our table was the last called up to the line.  We were HUNGRY like dehibernated bears.  It was also a Sunday night.  It took forever to get to the dancing part, at which time, we all had to go home because we had work in the morning.  So, no dancing there either.

303 340 John Phillips on KABC thinks it was mistaken identity hit.

Oh, I hadn't thought of that. I thought maybe she'd pissed off some Armenians or Russians or Persians or something.

That's possible Rum.  Her funeral was today.  I bet the service and cemetery were crawling with undercover cops taking pictures of everyone who attended.

304 My cousin in law was. She was chill with pretty much everything and didn't stress much at all that I could tell. Her matron of honor was a different story...

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at November 22, 2010 12:04 AM (YxBuk)

My middle sister was like a general. The husband's family was useless. She had to send me to the reception area to move the tables from the previous party away. Luckily they were round - I put them on edge and rolled them down the bank almost  into the Potomac river.

305 WTF kind of sport has a "dew" delay???

Posted by: mpfs at November 21, 2010 11:57 PM (3TjSM)

It was February, Presidents' Day actually, so the dew was pretty heavy, though I don't suppose that's going to make it any less pussy to you, 'cause you seem to already have an opinion of golf.

306 It was February, Presidents' Day actually, so the dew was pretty heavy, though I don't suppose that's going to make it any less pussy to you, 'cause you seem to already have an opinion of golf.

I like golf Editor.  I play, badly.  I never heard of a dew delay before. I've seen people play in the rain so what's a little dew?

307

It was February, Presidents' Day actually, so the dew was pretty heavy, though I don't suppose that's going to make it any less pussy to you, 'cause you seem to already have an opinion of golf.

Posted by: Editor at November 22, 2010 12:07 AM (YX6i/)

Well it it gets TOO damp, you can have trouble. I once hit a drive on a poorly maintained course that buried itself an inch and half into a soggy green.

308 I’m thinking laceyunderalls is talking about those bride blogs where the bride and groom blog every day about the minutiae of planning the wedding. Like “Today I tried on 5,000 wedding dresses with my good friend Bitsy, they were all so awesome I just don’t know how I will ever choose” and the groom is like “OMFG, I can’t believe I’m getting married in 287 days”

309 Honestly?  I like receptions as long as there's dancing.

Well HELLLOOOOO!

310 "Which reminds me, get down here so that I can yank out the catheter that was cleaning out your Captain's Log after its recent bout with Antarean clap" Hey, you left me that sorry job, Dr. Sour Mash. Why am I always cleaning up your messes, pal? You even had me do Chapel's gender reassignment surgery. Why don't you just set me on your porch and be done with it, grandpa?

311 Probably because it's 72 all year in San Diego??? 

We have heavy dew, here.

312 Posted by: soulpile is... curmudgeonly at November 22, 2010 12:04 AM (afWhQ)

I hate Chinese receptions. You arrive, wait 2 hours, and then get served dinner. Nowadays I think they have dancing, but most of the ones I went to didn't have any. Those suck ass.

My eldest cousin had a morning wedding and luncheon for her reception. No open bar, no dancing. And the family table, the 18th table, was the very last one to get called up to the buffet. That also sucked.

313 “OMFG, I can’t believe I’m getting married in 287 days”

Posted by: ParanoidAndAnnoyedInSeattle at November 22, 2010 12:10 AM (RZ8pf)

I'm game if they keep it up after the wedding - "That jerk left the toilet seat up again. I'm spitting on his pancakes for the next week"

314 Well HELLLOOOOO!

Posted by: The Chicken Dance at November 22, 2010 12:10 AM (PaSAU)

Well, yes.  Even this.

315 I’m thinking laceyunderalls is talking about those bride blogs where the bride and groom blog every day about the minutiae of planning the wedding. Like “Today I tried on 5,000 wedding dresses with my good friend Bitsy, they were all so awesome I just don’t know how I will ever choose” and the groom is like “OMFG, I can’t believe I’m getting married in 287 days”

Posted by: ParanoidAndAnnoyedInSeattle at November 22, 2010 12:10 AM (RZ8pf)

I thought that was called "Facebook" and it includes EVERY aspect of your life?

316 353 Honestly?  I like receptions as long as there's dancing.

Well HELLLOOOOO!

Posted by: The Chicken Dance at November 22, 2010 12:10 AM (PaSAU)

How ya doin'?  Care to cut a rug?

317

 That black doctor nobody remembers in sick bay at November 22, 2010 12:10 AM (AZGON)

He's the expert on vulcans. His name starts with M  - Mbenga?

318 Touche Editor.

319 M'ettes, because I loves you too.

Don't say I never gave you anything.

320 "361 That jerk left the toilet seat up again. I'm spitting on his pancakes for the next week" Now I would pay money to read such a blog. The entertainment value would be quite high. Posted by: Merck Medical Manual at November 22, 2010 12:13 AM (uCjoj)" Phone a marriage counselor.

321

thank you pgis for saying what I didn't articulate very well!

actually facebook has trumped those websites now. that's what the 'hide' button is for

oh and I actually went to a shower where we were 'quizzed' on what we 'learned' from the website about the couple. in fairness to that bride, she had a maid of honor nazi that wanted perfection. the bride herself was actually quite embarrassed -- wasn't her idea.

322 I thought that was called "Facebook" and it includes EVERY aspect of your life?

I was just thinking that.

323

I thought that was called "Facebook" and it includes EVERY aspect of your life?

Posted by: Editor at November 22, 2010 12:12 AM (YX6i/)

I don't know how to keep Facebook from showing everybody in the world, so I stopped looking at it. And I'm not so keen to learn.

324 I have to vent here.  I've looked at the photo that Drudge has had posted front and center all day of the little half naked boy being patted down by a TSA goon.  It is  depressing on so many levels.  The first of course being the absurdity of that little guy being a security risk.  Second, as a parent I simply could not let a strange pair of hands touch my child.  No trip is that important.  Let them fine me.  I'd rather walk out of the airport.  Are we that flock of sheep yet? 

325

M'ettes, because I loves you too.

Dang, he certainly got cute! Quite a feat considering Di was homely looking and Charles looks like a foot.

326 @370 Yes.

327 Chris, I'm not on Facebook either - you and me bro, to the end

328

facebook is only as obnoxious as you make it.

 

329 351 I’m thinking laceyunderalls is talking about those bride blogs where the bride and groom blog every day about the minutiae of planning the wedding. Like “Today I tried on 5,000 wedding dresses with my good friend Bitsy, they were all so awesome I just don’t know how I will ever choose” and the groom is like “OMFG, I can’t believe I’m getting married in 287 days”

Unfortunately, I know lots of people who do that, and they use both their blog, Facebook, and the blog's feed to FB. Then there are also the engaged couples who have to post "I can't believe I have to wait 2 days until I see you again" every hr on their Facebook. Really, people? I understand the waiting bit, but do you have to post it on FB? The posting of intimate conversations is also annoying, though I admit I once did the "I love you, honey" thing.

330 Chris, I'm not on Facebook either - you and me bro, to the end

Posted by: chemjeff at November 22, 2010 12:18 AM (PaSAU)

*fist bump*

331 I thought I was the last person in the western hemisphere not to sign up?

No, there's at least two of us. I refuse to join FB and I never went near MySpace.

332

Posted by: Chris in Va at November 22, 2010 12:16 AM (uCjoj)

My youngest sister sent email about to all sign up to keep in contact with the family. Then she didn't sign up for a few months. Meanwhile I started getting all kinds of information about another sisters son's and his friends until I could no longer find anything from anyone else. So I gave up.

The only message from my youngest sister I every got involved Farmville, whatever that is.

333 Really, people? I understand the waiting bit, but do you have to post it on FB? The posting of intimate conversations is also annoying, though I admit I once did the "I love you, honey" thing.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 22, 2010 12:19 AM (yfJ6g)

The cheeseburger site has a page called "Failbook" with amusing FB disasters on it.

334 Quite a feat considering Di was homely looking and Charles looks like a foot.

You just insulted feet, lacey. Apologize!

I'm glad I'm not the only one who though Diana wasn't that pretty. I remember hearing all the time how gorgeous she was and I just didn't see it. The Queen, however, was pretty in her day, imo.

335 No, there's at least two of us. I refuse to join FB and I never went near MySpace.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at November 22, 2010 12:20 AM (YxBuk)

That's what I'm TALKIN' 'BOUT!!11!!!11!11!!

336

TodayÂ’s bride embraces all forms of technology to bore everyone--she tweets, she FBs, she has her own blog, and in some cases she even sends update e-mails.

 

It’s one thing to do something simple, like those pages that are “the story of us” where it does talk about how the couple met and how they got engaged and some wedding details because for some of the people they invite to their wedding they may not know all the details and are interested.

 

But, some people have to take it a bridge too far. When they start tweeting from the wedding cake sampling for example. “Vote for our wedding cake flavor now at poll inanity dot com”

337 The round almost didn't happen. We showed up and there was a dew delay..............................."Dew delay" is quite possibly the gheyest reason evah for a sports delay.

338 Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at November 22, 2010 12:12 AM (YxBuk)

So, the gist is - serve the damn food early! 

339

Di had a good look. She didn't have good looks though. Nice style, good presence. Just not blessed w/good DNA imho.

340 So, the gist is - serve the damn food early! 

Posted by: soulpile is... curmudgeonly at November 22, 2010 12:23 AM (afWhQ)

Or have vendors selling lemonade and hot dogs like at sports events. -- make some of that wedding expense back.

341 "TodayÂ’s bride embraces all forms of technology to bore everyone--she tweets, she FBs, she has her own blog, and in some cases she even sends update" Wait, is this a wedding or a product launch?

342 So, the gist is - serve the damn food early!

If only! The chefs run on Chinese Time. My dad says to make sure to eat before going to the reception.

343 Rum,
My reception was an open bar cocktail party.  I warned my dad my friends drank to excess but he didn't care.  He thought a cash bar was tacky.  My dad was a true gentleman.

344 Wait, is this a wedding or a  product launch?

Posted by: George Orwell at November 22, 2010 12:24 AM (AZGON)

At a product launch you get free T Shirts.

345

The thing is, once you start through screening, they wonÂ’t let you go. Even if you refuse and say youÂ’ll take the fine, they can keep you there. ThatÂ’s what scares me because as a Mom it freaks me out to think of my son being touched like that and yet thereÂ’s nothing I can do about it, and if I decide flying that day isnÂ’t worth the pat down, they can hold me there at the airport and even possibly arrest me.

346 My friends created a Facebook account for me in Fall '06 or Spring '07. I really hated it at 1st, but now I rather like it. Just make sure you have high privacy settings, keep your wall clean, and keep the personal info brief. As for FB posts, it's usually articles of interest, Shorpy, perhaps some music, etc. Only play 1 game now and even that has become rather annoying.

347

At a product launch you get free T Shirts.

Ummm, some weddings have those tooÂ…

348 "391 Wait, is this a wedding or a  product launch? Posted by: George Orwell at November 22, 2010 12:24 AM (AZGON) At a product launch you get free T Shirts." Your idea may appear in Modern Bride Online next week.

349 The only slight annoyance I have on facebook is my cousin's fiancee constantly posting up videos of their son.

Everyone else is pretty good at keeping silent/not posting a million times a day.  _{(Wish I could have seen their faces when my mom accidentally posted a nice thought on Palin's page.  I agree, so I kept it up.)}

It's the only way I can get an inkling about what's going on with my cousins.  I don't post at all, since I learned a while back that the internet is not the place to share things with your family.

350 Your idea may appear in Modern Bride Online next week.

Posted by: George Orwell at November 22, 2010 12:27 AM (AZGON)

Not the "free" part I'm sure.

351

I know we're supposed to be the valu-rite vodka blog, but I would like to submit for consideration a moron approved Rum based solely on the commercials.  Its called Bundaberg Rum and its Australian.  And its creation is based on the fact that they had a surplus of molasses and their solution was "Let's use it to get shitfaced"

This is their commercial: Favourable Lie

And here is their Apology commercial for Favourable Lie.

And here is their Apology for their Apology.

Now that's Top Shelf thinking.

Huzzah!

 

352
Wait, is this a wedding or a product launch?

well, if you think about it - what's the difference?

353 Dang, he certainly got cute! Quite a feat considering Di was homely looking and Charles looks like a foot.

I've never heard him referred to as a foot, but it certainly is apt.

354 Maybe the next trend will be to give away small appliances at rehearsal dinners, with a raffle for a weekend in Atlantic City.

355

It sort of bothers me when my friends post so many pictures of their children, and videos too. I mean I know people have privacy settings etc. but still, those can be gotten around. And, they post details about where the video is taken etc. so that you know what their typical schedule is.

 

I donÂ’t know, I guess I must have a criminal mind or something because I immediately think of all the bad things that could happen.

356 387 So, the gist is - serve the damn food early!

Posted by: soulpile is... curmudgeonly at November 22, 2010 12:23 AM (afWhQ)

Or have vendors selling lemonade and hot dogs like at sports events. -- make some of that wedding expense back.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 22, 2010 12:24 AM (CN+Qv)

You know... I've thought about it when watching some of these wedding shows on the tv.

I'd love a simple bbq with comfort foods. Nothing fancy that you can't spell without looking it up on your phone.

389So, the gist is - serve the damn food early!

If only! The chefs run on Chinese Time. My dad says to make sure to eat before going to the reception.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at November 22, 2010 12:24 AM (YxBuk)

That makes sense! How come they don't start cooking two hours before the reception starts?

357 It's time for me to put in my two cents about the supposedly legendary Kirk. You have no idea the pain this guy caused me, and I'm not talking weepy emo pain, I'm talking hot poker up your ass pain. That screaming wasn't for effect folks.

At first I thought it would be really cool to be up there on the bridge after a year in the storage decks inspecting toilets in the quartermasters section. Little did I know that Kirk would use me as a guinea pig to see if something was too hot to touch or too dangerous to go. Hey, we don't know if we're beaming down into molten lava, let's send Chekov!

Bullshit on this, I'm defecting to the Romulans the next time Kirk pokes his nose around the Neutral Zone

358

Just wondering, have I missed the story about how all this naked body scanning and these pat downs have stopped an attempted terror attack?

I know were not up against the best and brightest, but you think they just might be turning their attention to methods that will get by these measures?  Or turning their attention to softer, yet equally sensational targets (e.g. a mall full of Chritmas shoppers).

359 398

Posted by: buzzion at November 22, 2010 12:29 AM (oVQFe)

I heartily approve of this Top Shelf Thinking!  huzzah.

360

okay I'm off. my posts sound incredibly grouchy this evening and I'm not even in a bad mood! who could be -- short week!!

hope everyone enjoys their time off this week.

361 Oh, I see the photo of Prince Harry now. He definitely takes-after the more handsome males on his father's side of the family. As for Prince William, poor man looks like some of his great-uncles, though he's far more handsome than his dad.

362 @398 Great. Now I have to buy a whole new brand of rum. Life is good.

363 PGIS - that is why I took down all my photos from my FB page after they were up for a couple months.  Even with all the privacy settings, they seem to be giving away our information at the drop of a hat.  Also, now there is no way to block "friend of a friend" people from seeing and "friending" you.  Creepy.  Especially if you're hiding from certain people.

364 Perhaps they should rename Facebook to Pantsdrop.

365 344 I am wanting to hear from the Crew of The Next Generation, DS9 and Voyager.

The Next Generation?  Are you talking about that massive Frisbee-shaped clusterfuck that took our old ship's name and had a bridge that looked like the lobby of the Regulus Marriott?  Yeah, I was there.  Saw her off when she was launched.  Let me tell you, I was laughing my ass off the entire time.  Just wait'll these baby-faced fuckers found out what kind of horrors they were going to have to deal with out there in deep brainfucking space.

Really, the opportunity for a little schadenfreude was about the only thing that could have dragged my 137-year-old ass off the porch.  I'm OLD, God damn it.  I've DONE this shit and DEALT with these fucking parodies of nature with weird shit on their foreheads and CURED stuff like Rigellian fever and Antarean clap and even put Spock's fucking BRAIN back in his lime-green head.  I even FOUND A CURE FOR DEATH, for Christ's sweet fucking sake.  How many other ship's doctors did THAT?  The fucking quack on the Exeter couldn't even keep his crew from turning into exploded packets of FUCKING SWEET 'N LOW in orbit of a planet where everyone else lived to SIX THOUSAND and here I am in a cramped sickbay unlocking the secrets of Life itself.  Yeah, motherfuckers, you better fucking BELIEVE I deserved a promotion to Admiral.

Anyway, where was I?  Oh yeah, the "Enterprise-D" or whatever they called it.  (Real fucking cute.)  I had some sickly-looking fucking robot who kept blathering on about how he wanted to fuck the tactical officer escorting me around all day.  He was a joke; the ship was a joke; the entire fucking crew of Spandex-wearing shitheads were a joke.  The men wore miniskirts, for the love of shit.  What was that all about?  In my day we kept the WOMEN in miniskirts manning the switchboards and doing the laundry.  Those were the good old days, I tell ya, before all this touchy-feely metrosexual ratshit infected the service.... oh fuck where was I ANYWAY Astroboy showed me the hotel-lobby bridge, that sucked; I met the new ship's doctor and her bitch-ass genius kid and wanted to kill myself right there; I even ran into Captain Baldo and told him in no uncertain terms that his effete French faggot ass had better GET ITS SHIT TOGETHER AND DO SOMETHING about this sad joke of a ship before he got everyone under his command killed.  This isn't a fucking pleasure cruise to Alpha Centauri, I told the frog; you may think you can run around in these painted-on uniforms with your cock hanging out on this shitfuck of a vessel that looks like a 1980s Kenmore appliance ad but you're going out into DEEP FUCKING SPACE, FRENCHIE, and it's not PLEASANT out there.  All your fucking around is going to get everyone KILLED.

I don't know if fucking Frogboy heard me; he just wandered back into his Ready Room to ruminate over a cup of fucking tea, if you can believe it.  Yeah, I figured, this ship is definitely fucked.  So I let C-3PO drag me back down to the airlock, but before I disembarked he showed me this weird fucking thing he called the "holo-deck".  Tell it what I want to see, the droid said, and it'll appear right there in the room as some kind of hologrammatic light show.  Okay you fucking blasted machine, I said, I'LL TELL THIS FUCKING SHIP what I want to see, and lo and behold when the doors opened there was Chapel, 27 years old, tits even bigger than I remember them and wearing nothing but a giant shit-eating smile and the cuffs that were pinning her ankles behind her ears.

So I pulled rank and told Talky Toaster to go pound sand, and my flight back to Georgia was delayed.  Several years later I heard they blew the whole thing up by letting the God damned woman psychiatrist drive the fucking thing right into a planet, which is about the way I expected that tin can to go.  A shame about the holo-thing though.

366

That makes sense! How come they don't start cooking two hours before the reception starts?

Posted by: soulpile is... curmudgeonly at November 22, 2010 12:32 AM (afWhQ)

One reason might be they don't have access to the hall that early.

But most likely its bad planning. Most guests are like extras, just there for effect around the star and costars. They slip out of mind. And it doesn't help that the weddings are as complicated as minor military operations, but orgainzed by someone who has never done it before and isn't thinking to clearly.

367 He thought a cash bar was tacky.  My dad was a true gentleman.

I like your dad.

My eldest cousin (as mentioned above) had a cash bar. It kind of made sense because no one in her church drinks - but I think they shouldn't have had a bar at all, then. Not only that, she didn't give anyone party favors. Our "party favor" was a card that said, "We donated money to our favorite Christian charity for you." Wow. Thanks.

368 Our "party favor" was a card that said, "We donated money to our favorite Christian charity for you." Wow. Thanks.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at November 22, 2010 12:42 AM (YxBuk)

Wow... that kind of... sucks.

I've had two party favors from weddings - one was a pre-party favor.  All out of town guests (all of us, I guess, since it was at a hotel) got little bags full of good snacks (fruit, trailmix, water).  Lifesavers after a long day of travel.

The other one was a nice little box of chocolate.  I love that couple to death.

369 t kind of made sense because no one in her church drinks...

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at November 22, 2010 12:42 AM (YxBuk)

What's that you say?  Damned charismatics!

370 Diplomacy... family ships... culture...

371  Our "party favor" was a card that said, "We donated money to our favorite Christian charity for you." Wow. Thanks.
Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at November 22, 2010 12:42 AM

You're welcome!

372 "I don't know if fucking Frogboy heard me; he just wandered back into his Ready Room to ruminate over a cup of fucking tea, if you can believe it." No fucking kidding, you cornholing hayseed sawbones. At least you would bring Romulan ale to my bachelor pad in Frisco when I had to face up to wearing eyeglasses. But freaking tea? TEA? How those bugfuckers lasted more than a week outside of space dock is a mystery for the Vulcan Fucking Science Academy. I love ya, Bones, and these fucking kids don't know warp drive from the wanker dance. But you're still a pansy.

373 #422  What's that you say?  Damned charismatics!

Heh, certainly wasn't us "heretical" Methodists.  John Wesley made his own brew, as my pastor friend loves to recount.

And Oldcat, given that it is a tie, I fully acknowledge your top commenter status for the week and give you my blessings via the Blade of Olympus, .

/Go Iggles!  I have a love/hate relationship with them. 

374 423 Diplomacy... family ships... culture...

Posted by: Gene Roddenberry doing unspeakable things to a frog, circa 1987 at November 22, 2010 12:49 AM (0IR+C)

Yeah we saw what you were doing and thought it was completely retarded so we stuck in some stuff that went beyond your little mental masturbatory utopian fantasy.

375 Thank goodness ESPN keeps letting me know i'm watching sportscenter cuz otherwise i'd have no idea.

376 You know how I know the holidays are near?  When there's a big pile of lumber in the yard for me to cut.  

377 Posted by: soulpile is... expendable at November 22, 2010 12:45 AM (afWhQ)

The last Chinese wedding I went to the party favor was fancy silver chopsticks in a pretty little bag. Chinese receptions suck, but they have some pretty good party favors.

The cousin whose wedding I was in, their favors were shotglasses that said, "I got lei'd at [cousin] and [cousin in law]'s wedding." It was a Hawaiian themed wedding.

378 Oh, don't even get me started on the Methodists, Kratos.  Bunch of lefty do gooders. 

379 428 Thank goodness ESPN keeps letting me know i'm watching sportscenter cuz otherwise i'd have no idea.

Repetition is good. 

/Worst Sunday Night Game announcer evah?  Cris Collensworth, IMHO.

380

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirkl at November 22, 2010 12:50 AM (AZGON)

I'm tellin' ya.  Fucking toddlers.  Oh and by the way Jim, all that shit I fed you about how you ought to get back your command?  Well, forget all that.  I don't know what the fuck I was thinking.

381 "The cousin whose wedding I was in, their favors were shotglasses that said, "I got lei'd at [cousin] and [cousin in law]'s wedding." It was a Hawaiian themed wedding." Was a shotgun involved?

382

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 22, 2010 12:51 AM (c0A3e)

I often wonder how they square the non drinking with the wedding of Cana and the last Supper. But I'm not the denomination that has to worry about every jot and tittle in the new Testiment, seeing as how my guys wrote it.

Well thanks for the nod, but wiser heads are saying that rules are rules. Finishing 2nd three times or less than tenth has its charms.

383 Oh, and on the boat, Kratos, it's going to be strictly non-denominational, so you better have a good New American Standard Bible.

384 Feeling good that I avoided both lists this week. . . .

385 429 You know how I know the holidays are near? When there's a big pile of lumber in the yard for me to cut. .................................I just wait a couple of days after a big storm and then drive around, by then people will have cut up all the limbs and trees that got blown down and put them on their curb for trash pickup, instant firewood.

386 431 Oh, don't even get me started on the Methodists, Kratos.  Bunch of lefty do gooders.

Not all of us, but alas, way too many.  And way too many of my Methodist brethern support Fuckabee, to my eternal chagrin. 

The leftist virus has infected the Methodist church for quite some time.  I don't recall which Methodist group gave Pres Truman a letter decrying his stratagem to contain Communism, but Truman called it an "asinine document".

387 429 You know how I know the holidays are near?  When there's a big pile of lumber in the yard for me to cut.

Kratos?

388 /Worst Sunday Night Game announcer evah? Cris Collensworth, IMHO..........................Yep, he's pretty bad, he sounds bored most of the time.

389 single mothers... gay Klingon children.... flutes... evil space Jews... cats....

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

390 We went to my wife's family's Methodist church in San Diego for a service and I swear the presiding official was a bull dyke.  I wanted to claw myself outta that place.  *shivers*

391 Rum - that's rather cute.  Nice favors.

392 "I'm tellin' ya.  Fucking toddlers.  Oh and by the way Jim, all that shit I fed you about how you ought to get back your command?  Well, forget all that.  I don't know what the fuck I was thinking." I still laugh every time I think of you beaming on board after many years absence, the time we left to find that V'ger fucklebunny. You looked like a bearded cabana boy from the Sandals on Rigel IV. You walked like one too.

393

Worst Sunday Night Game announcer evah?  Cris Collensworth, IMHO.

IBTD, Joe. Theesman. Sucks. More.

394 PGiS, are you still around?

395

IBTD, Joe. Theesman. Sucks. More.

Posted by: rockhead at November 22, 2010 01:01 AM (RykTt)

Kornheiser wins..

396 "evil space Jews... " The lieutenant next door is wondering why I am howling with laughter.

397 "evil space Jews... "

The lieutenant next door is wondering why I am howling with laughter.

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at November 22, 2010 01:03 AM (AZGON)

That's what I always called the Ferengi.

398

Kornheiser wins..

I dunno, but based soley on the ridiculous name, mebbe you're right.  Dunno why Beavis and Butthead always comes to mind when I hear this dufus'  name.

399 Seriously, how transparent was that Ferengi thing?

400 #435  often wonder how they square the non drinking with the wedding of Cana and the last Supper. But I'm not the denomination that has to worry about every jot and tittle in the new Testiment, seeing as how my guys wrote it.

I haven't a clue either.  Drinking alcohol is not forbidden in the Bible.  In fact, in Deut 14, God allowed the Israelites to exchange their tithes for money to purchase fermented drinks to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.   However, drunkenness is frowned upon, as Paul mentioned several times in the NT. 

Some Christian sects go way to the extreme and keep Old Testament kosher laws, such as some Seventh Day Adventists, IIRC.  My college friend's father went so far as to not eat any seafood or drink any alcohol at all, and was adamant that Church had to be attended on Saturday. 

401

I dunno, but based soley on the ridiculous name, mebbe you're right.  Dunno why Beavis and Butthead always comes to mind when I hear this dufus'  name.

Posted by: rockhead at November 22, 2010 01:05 AM (RykTt)

I've heard people say he has a good radio show, but I have never heard it. At least Joe and Cris talk football. Korn seemed to be sentenced to be the 'ordinary fan' voice...except the ordinary fan is a lot smarter than he was.

402 You looked like a bearded cabana boy from the Sandals on Rigel IV. You walked like one too.

I was lucky to walk off that pad at all after it had just turned Sonak into well-done potato casserole.  If I'd had my way I've have stayed right there in the mountains jerking myself off with lime juice while you and Spock went on your little mutual masturbation tour into one of those mechanized God Things, but no, you and your ideas.

403 440 429 You know how I know the holidays are near?  When there's a big pile of lumber in the yard for me to cut.

Kratos?

Not me, friend.  I haven't a bloody clue what a scone is. 

404 "However, drunkenness is frowned upon, as Paul mentioned several times in the NT" I think it is a sacrament at AOSHQ. Otherwise, I'm in deep doodoo. Even now.

405 My college friend's father went so far as to not eat any seafood or drink any alcohol at all, and was adamant that Church had to be attended on Saturday. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 22, 2010 01:06 AM (c0A3e)

Well all fish aren't banned in the old testament - just fish that don't have both fins and scales.

406 Drunkeness in public and coming to communion (church) is frowned upon.  And, the other reason many think (incorrectly) drinking is wrong is because of Jesus refusing the wine on the cross so he would be of sound mind and not dull the pain.

407 "If I'd had my way I've have stayed right there in the mountains jerking myself off with lime juice" Whoa, whoa. Perhaps I underestimated the prowess of cornpone medicine. You had me at "jerking off."

408 okay, this may sound like a stupid question, but:
is communion restricted only to those who have been baptized?

409 Oh, and the other wrongful drinking is to drink around brothers and sisters who are drunks.  Being an enabler is just as sinful as being the drunk.  That is the point.

In addition, and this is the hardest one for me to deal with but still do, if you cause someone to drink who believes it is a sin to drink (whether they are correct or not) you have caused them to sin in their mind, thus you have sinned. 

410 okay, this may sound like a stupid question, but:
is communion restricted only to those who have been baptized?

Posted by: chemjeff at November 22, 2010 01:12 AM (PaSAU)

For Catholics, yes. You need Sacrament 1 done first. Technically Communion would have no effect on unbaptized, as original sin trumps all.

411 I loled at the LAT article on the impending decline of California's healthcare industry. Yes, California has managed to screw-up the only sure thing in our economy. http://tinyurl.com/27n58rl On the upside for the GOP in this Libtardopia of a state. Asians have a lukewarm feelings toward us, unlike the rest of the mahnoretehs which only experience white-hot rage. http://tinyurl.com/2dpxt6z Actually, Asians in this state were a bulwark of the GOP in the 80s, but has become steadily libtardify since. Probably because of brainwashing in the universities. There's still a huge active chunk of Asians that regularly get elected as Republicans though.

412 is communion restricted only to those who have been baptized?

Posted by: chemjeff at November 22, 2010 01:12 AM (PaSAU)

In some churches, especially Catholic, yes. 

In ours, no, but it's also a different ceremony, too.

413 Hi, kids!

It's snowing here in SE Washington State!  Looks beautiful coming down! 

Been snowing for a while it looks like, although there's not much on the ground yet, maybe 1/4 inch, judging by my balcony railing.  Must have started while I was ooohing and ahhhhhing watching Sara Palin's Alaska. 

414 Been snowing for a while it looks like, although there's not much on the ground yet, maybe 1/4 inch, judging by my balcony railing.  Must have started while I was ooohing and ahhhhhing watching Sara Palin's Alaska. 

Posted by: Theresa D at November 22, 2010 01:19 AM (k9cj/)

That's not snow...its shredded Rossi ballots.

415 461 okay, this may sound like a stupid question, but:
is communion restricted only to those who have been baptized?

Depends.  The Catholic Church performs Closed Communions, so you'd have to be baptized Catholic to receive communion.

Most Protestant Churches perform Open Communions and baptism isn't required (at least that I know of).  Regardless, Communions should be for believers only. 

416 It's snowin' over here, too, TheresaD.  And effing cold!!!!!!!!!

417 Regardless, Communions should be for believers only. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 22, 2010 01:21 AM (c0A3e)

Oh yeah, forgot that part.

418 Want some fun with Kirk? Try watching him get owned by a couple guys who have skin like mimes but unfortunately never shut the fuck up.  Once again Kirk pissed off the hacks at Starfleet and they had the best fucking ship in the fleet doing Highway Patrol. Another clown steals a shuttle and we've got to play CHP and do a hot pursuit until the stolen ship redlines the engines and blows titanium chunks all over a solar system. Beam up some painted radical agitator and before you know it the fucker is demanding asylum. You'd think Kirk would put him in an asylum but noooo, he lets this commie recite from Rules for Radicals to every malcontent on the ship willing to listen.

Well, you figure before we turn this guy over to Starfleet to answer for grand theft shuttle, another mime shows up with some fucking invisible ship whose been hunting this guy down like he's some sort of checkerboard Lt Gerard. It was bad enough that these two wouldn't shut the fuck up about politics, but they had some sort of funky talent for generating heat and electricity from their bodies and Lt Gerard could actually mind fuck the control computers into steering the ship to some bitch planet called Sharon. In the meantime Kirk is shitting in his girdle because besides the highway patrol duty we're supposed to drop off some sort of vaccine that's got a few days left before the whole batch goes bad. All that work rigging the dispersal nozzles looked like it was going to be a big waste of time, but Kirk finds his balls and tells the checkerboard boys he'd nuke his own ship if mind-fuck didn't return the navigation back to him.

Well, good thing I wrote the code down on a bar napkin, because I had to give the frigging 3rd code before Jimbo would give the order to cash in our own chips. Kirk's luck kicked in once again when Bounty Hunter blinked before it was too late for Kirk to back off the self immolation

Well, Checkerboard the Bounty Hunter figured out how to fry the self destruct files of the computer, leaving some more shit I'd spend weeks fixing and back we headed to Lisa or Nancy or whatever bitch name their planet was called

We just about get there after listening to those two assholes ignore Kirk's wimpy please for "compromise" and "civility", and Spock looks through the scanner to tell them their homeworld now looked like fuckin' Detroit.

We offered to take them to another place that could stand having them around, but they just couldn't shut the fuck up and beamed themselves down to New Newark  to duke it out for centuries. Good riddance

419 LOL, you may be right, Oldcat!   

420 Kratos, when you say "should be for believers only", do you mean "don't be taking someone else's wine", or do you mean "it's a sinful thing to do if you're not a believer"?

421

Well all fish aren't banned in the old testament - just fish that don't have both fins and scales.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 22, 2010 01:10 AM (CN+Qv)

Oh, you're just trying to help out the catfish.

422  "it's a sinful thing to do if you're not a believer"?

Posted by: chemjeff at November 22, 2010 01:25 AM (PaSAU)

Well if you believed the nun stories, you'd be a dead unbeliver if you tried. But I don't know if the nuns believed them themselves.

423 Hmm... sinful?  Well, yeah, everything you do is, but the point is you'll get nothing out of it if you're not a believer.  It's not just a symbolic thing to do.  It's an obedient thing, to do.  If you're not a believer, there's no point in you doing it.  Why would you want to be obedient to a messiah you don't believe in?

424

Oh, you're just trying to help out the catfish.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 22, 2010 01:26 AM (kaalw)

Bros before roes, man.

425

Bros before roes, man.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 22, 2010 01:28 AM (CN+Qv)

Heh.  Nice one.  You're making teh funny.  (I'm in the fishing industry where we actually auction off roe to the asians, so this is especially funny, to me)

426 What if I walked in wearing a Wiccan Pentacle and carrying a Talmud? Just to get the two-fer in there?

-- wait a second, do I know you?

[lived in SF Bay Area too long....]

427 That's it for me.  Goodnight ladies and retards.

428

 It's not just a symbolic thing to do.  It's an obedient thing, to do.  If you're not a believer, there's no point in you doing it.  Why would you want to be obedient to a messiah you don't believe in?

: Editor at November 22, 2010 01:28 AM (YX6i/)

I would say that politeness and respect for others should rule you as a nonmember. Communion may mean little to you, but it means something to them. It deserves your respect for that much.

.

 

 

429 Dammit, Chris, I was gonna go to bed.  Ask away.

430 473 Kratos, when you say "should be for believers only", do you mean "don't be taking someone else's wine", or do you mean "it's a sinful thing to do if you're not a believer"?

Think about it.  Communion is meant to remember that Jesus broke his body and spilled his blood for the sins of the world.  If you don't believe that happened, why participate in such a ceremony?  Its pointless. 

431

Posted by: Montgomery Scott at November 22, 2010 01:22 AM (vdfwz)

Hey, I remember those guys.  Usually I just got Chapel to paint her face white when we played "geisha" in the decompression chamber, but these two clowns really kicked it up a notch.  Shame about their planet, but that's what they get for living out in the middle of fucking SPACE.

432 Lies! The Talmud is not allowed in SF.

Oh, come on. Don't try to bullshit the utter insanity of the place. Of course, the Talmud is allowed in SF -- otherwise, how could you practice Kabbalah? Orthodox synagogues, by contrast, have "free parking for Islamic protesters" zones out front.

433 My understanding is that Vietnamese-Americans are the most Republican-friendly.

Posted by: Chris in Va at November 22, 2010 01:41 AM (uCjoj)

Nothing like fleeing from a People's Paradise to give someone a fine appreciation for limited government.

434

Hey, I remember those guys.  Usually I just got Chapel to paint her face white when we played "geisha" in the decompression chamber,

Posted by: Dr. Leonard McCoy at November 22, 2010 01:39 AM

Hate to break this to ya Doc, but that wasn't a strap-on that Chapel was sticking up your squeakhole

435 Hate to break this to ya Doc, but that wasn't a strap-on that Chapel was sticking up your squeakhole

I'm a DOCTOR, God damn it; I maintain my own squeakhole.  Now watch your mouth or I won't let patient confidentiality keep me from explaining why you went to meet Abraham Lincoln wearing a kilt as part of your dress uniform.

436 Nothing like fleeing from a People's Paradise to give someone a fine appreciation for limited government.

The Chinese are too far removed from it these days. Now they all vote Dem.

437 Well, Chris, I don't see how asking questions is an attack.  Didn't feel attacked in the least.  (By the way, a true Christian will relish "attacks"... as Jesus said, "If they persecuted me, so they will persecute you."  It's a badge of honor.)

This is a long one.  Can we pick it up, tomorrow... if either of us are around?  I started to answer, but this will take some time.  I'm sure there are some still around who will continue, but if you're up to it we can continue, tomorrow... or you could hit me up via email... uh, somehow, since you're not in the yahoo group.

438 #492  My understanding is that Vietnamese-Americans are the most Republican-friendly.

Being exiled from your native country because of Communist invasion gives you a new perspective on how tyrannical big governments can become.

From what I can recall, you are right about Americans of Vietnamese decent being the most Republican-friendly amongst Americans with Asian ancestry.  My sophomore year Army ROTC college instructor fled Vietnam as one of the "boat people" with his parents after Saigon fell. 

439 okay, so if you are a non-believer and just visiting a church, and they happen to be performing communion, when the communion plate gets passed around, which is the more "polite" thing to do: refuse the plate, or appear to fit in and take the bread & wine anyway?

440 Rum is reaching out!

I wish! All my Chinese friends vote D.

441 refuse the plate, or appear to fit in and take the bread & wine anyway?

I just pass it to the person next to me, which I guess is refusing it. But the last two Catholic events I went to (a funeral and a wedding), only those who wanted to receive Communion did so.

442 Refuse the plate, chemjeff.  Heck, we do when the bread shows up.  We bring our own since we're gluten free.

443 Rum, yeah, the one time I went to a Catholic mass, the Catholic I went with warned me not to go take the communion because I wasn't baptized, but at the church I recently visit, they passed the plate around, you didn't have to go to the front to do it

444 Ah, cthulhu beat me to it, .

I also have a Vietnamese friend who I met in college.  His family are all staunch Republicans and all have served  (or will serve) in the US military in some fashion.  He complained to me several times that all the Americans he knew of Chinese or Japanese decent voted straight Dem.

445 it was a really awkward moment - the usher dude handed me the communion tray, and I really didn't know what to do at that point

446 chemjeff, just politely refuse the plate or just sit quietly in the pew if everybody is going to the alter to receive Communion. 

447 Well...I understand you are a religious individual. Presumably your wife too. Why? I mean what do you base the beliefs on. (And I don't mean the Bible - because each faith has their own "holy book" well most do). So if you mean the Bible, why? I mean what made you decide to believe in religion? And how did you select Christianity? Why wouldn't for instance, the Judiaism be correct? How can anyone possibly know?

Now that I've attacked your very belief system, feel free to flame away!

Posted by: Chris in Va, Channeling Dr. Bill Maher at November 22, 2010 01:38 AM (uCjoj)

Since Editor seems to be delayed, I'll take a shot. I was born and raised Catholic and haven't seen a reason to change. Catholicism has 2000 years of thought and tradition behind it, and plenty of mistakes that hopefully have taught us something. Judaism is the foundation, Christians see Jesus as the fufillment of their religion. Jews do not see it this way, of course.

As to why, the ethics of Judeo Christianity are the basis for our entire civilization that has pretty much covered the world. Attempts to base eithics in other places have produced monsters like Communism, or feeble systems that borrow the concepts isolated from the causes. This hardly is a sound basis to build a world on. In effect they are trying to be free riders. It can't work for long.

 

448 Chemjeff, the pews are full of non-believers.  They shouldn't think any less of you if you do not partake.  I understand what you are saying, but no awkwardness is warranted. 

449 okay, so if you are a non-believer and just visiting a church, and they happen to be performing communion, when the communion plate gets passed around, which is the more "polite" thing to do: refuse the plate, or appear to fit in and take the bread & wine anyway?

Posted by: chemjeff at November 22, 2010 01:48 AM (PaSAU)

If they pass the plate, I would pass it along. If the server gives the host to you and its too awkward, I agree that taking it and not making a scene is the best thing to do.

Unless the nuns are right and you are struck dead on the spot.

450 You can't convert them? Are any remotely conservative? Do they know why they vote D? Are these like second generation immigrants or direct immigrants? I recall reading how third generation immigrants tend to begin to trend back to the GOP. (so it only takes 40-60 years!)

I don't even bother trying. All of them are children of immigrants. One of them is full on moonbatty. She's a lawyer and lives in SF. No converting that one. The other two are apolitical mostly, but definitely lean D. One of them, during the 2008 election, said she believed both McCain and Obama to be honorable men. She also thought Sarah Palin was stupid to put her family in the spotlight and "allow" all the viciousness against Bristol. They're all about helping people and I guess they think the gov't should be the one to do it.

451 501 okay, so if you are a non-believer and just visiting a church, and they happen to be performing communion, when the communion plate gets passed around, which is the more "polite" thing to do: refuse the plate, or appear to fit in and take the bread & wine anyway?

Posted by: chemjeff at November 22, 2010 01:48 AM (PaSAU)

It's been a while since I attended, but I've never (asfaik) been to a church that passed around the communion plate.  We usually went up and the pastor did the passing out of the bread and wine part.  Anyone who didn't want communion stayed in their seats.

I would say to just politely pass the plate.

452 Just eat the wafers, Chemjeff.  God's nothing more than a mutated space probe we sent up several decades ago anyway.

453 Heh, I talk about pews as if we have them in our church.  Nope, we have comfy chairs.  Yay!

454 Okay, I'm really gonna go to bed... in a second.

455 okay thanks for the communion advice

so another question about baptism: i'm aware that in Catholicism, baptism is supposed to wash away original sin, but is that the purpose for Protestant baptism too?  I get the impression that baptism means something else, beyond just original sin

456
so another question about baptism: i'm aware that in Catholicism, baptism is supposed to wash away original sin, but is that the purpose for Protestant baptism too?  I get the impression that baptism means something else, beyond just original sin

Posted by: chemjeff at November 22, 2010 02:02 AM (PaSAU)

Honestly, I'm not sure.  I always thought it was the same for both Protestants and Catholics.  I'm Lutheran and I don't remember being taught that it was different.

457  I get the impression that baptism means something else, beyond just original sin

Posted by: chemjeff at November 22, 2010 02:02 AM (PaSAU)

I gather that in some denominations, it is akin to Confirmation - a passage into religious adulthood. But thats a guess.

458 I knew it.  I knew there was going to be another question..

Yes, we don't actually really know what baptism is other than an obedient thing to do.  We don't know why he says to do it (though many will claim they do).  It's a public statement of your commitment to Christ.  Not much more than that.  Believers who have not been baptised are no less believers.

459 Believers who have not been baptised are no less believers.

Then wait...what makes someone a believer in the eyes of the church?

460 So are you saying we, at AoS, are filling the venue they are depriving you, you CLOSETED conservative!

Well, I'm not in the closet. They know where I stand. It's probably why they don't talk politics with me....

Not counting the morons, I can probably count the number of right wing friends I have on one hand.

461 Then wait...what makes someone a believer in the eyes of the church?

Posted by: chemjeff at November 22, 2010 02:07 AM (PaSAU)

Possibly nothing - a lot of 'small church' sects have very little concept of the church as an enitiy outside its members. Every man a pope.

462 chemjeff, would love to continue on my end, but we're now getting into deep theological conversation.  I hope we can pick it up, again. 

463 Seeing as my last pastor told me I was going to hell during confirmation class, I don't think I can pontificate on what makes one a believer in the eyes of a church.

464 okay thanx Editor & thanx all
good night all

465 keep up the question, chemjeff.  They're perfect.

466 Chemjeff, something else to remember with Catholic Communion is that you are not supposed to take it if you have any sin on your soul.  That's why most churches have confession during the week.  Taking communion while having not confessed is actually another sin. 

467 oh  and in this week of Thanksgiving, I'm certainly thankful for AoS and the ONT

468 And, BTW, the "[a]ctually I recall reading that with Asians it breaks down by "type" of Asian" comment is funnier than hell.

Asia is a big place, with a history that eclipses that of the West in depth and breadth (though not necessarily in height). There are grudges that make the Serb/Bosnian thing look like a Sunday picnic, and stuff about 'ethnic purity' or 'religious observance' that would make people cringe if they knew about just the outline (and would piss people off beyond belief were they to know the details).

There are almost twice as many Thai as there are Spanish, and the uplands and peninsular people are vastly more different than the people of Castile and Aragon -- and Spain had an empire from California to Tierra del Fuego in the New World. Everyone in that area knows about the Spanish Armada, Ferdinand and Isabella, the Moorish conquest, the Spanish Inquisition, Granada and Madrid.....oh, and "Asians".

I freely admit that I know jack dick about the histories of the Asian peoples -- but I have some sense of how much there is out there. We've got about 2000 years of well-documented history -- e.g. where there have been Romans and French (Franks)......they've got about 4000 years of well-documented history about Bengali and Malays and Cantonese, Japanese and Koreans, Islanders and mountain people, steppe riders and fortress builders.

Trying to lump together a group whose diversity substantially exceeds "European" is a bit of a stretch. Trying to give them a single political viewpoint just won't work.

 

469

I agree with this, but isn't that in and of itself subjective? I mean what hard proof do we have that that is anything more special than someone "getting it  mostly right" back then? Couldn't you keep the framework and discard the rest?

The religion is the framework. Thou shalt not kill is the result. They why is because every man is god's creation.

why couldn't people pervert a religion into something? I almost see the latter as more frigthening (see the radical Islamists). If you're fighting for Communism, you're fighting for an ideology & a state, if you're a radical fighting for religion, you're fighting for a 'higher power' that cannot, by definition, be proven wrong

They can and they do. God can't be wrong, men speaking for him can and are. All human institutions have failings. Part of sticking with an established one is that hopefully they have learned this already.

It seems to me that we should be at the point where we don't have to base our assumptions on the unproveable

Might be nice, but it hasn't happened yet.

470 OK, Capt Cockswinger got a legendary reputation beating the following;

A creepy teenager with godlike powers who damn near wiped out every chick on the ship
His best friend who aquires godlike powers
A crew acting drunk and going all emo from a mystery virus
A cool battle with Romulans
A godlike gay guy
Hand to Hand combat with his stronger first officer on his home planet
An alternate universe with his own crew plotting to kill him
A giant planet killing metal turd
Witches
A bloodsucking cloud
Brain creatures
A giant amoeba
Toga partiers with telekinetic powers
Apollo
A badass satellite

But he got pwned by:

A fatass con artist (twice)
A laughing midget
A slow moving lizard guy
A guy brought out of the deep freeze from 3 centuries back
A stone aged culture with bad wigs
Rapidly reproducing hamsters
Mobsters from the 20s
Nazis from the 40s
Primitives who somehow have the exact copy of the US Constitution
Romans from the 60s
An alien trained CIA type and his ditzy secretary
Retarded pole dancers
American Indians
Brats who constantly jerk off
Wyatt Earp
Hippies
A psycho ex girlfriend who turns him into a chick
 

471 refuse the plate, or appear to fit in and take the bread & wine anyway?

Easy answer -- pass it on....you haven't had a valid confession since your last occasion of sin. It'd be like a cook making meatloaf and declining to set the table......"um, I haven't washed my hands recently enough."

472 Are you even in the "more conservative" (heh) eastern part (I think it's the eastern part..)

Not even close. I'm deeply set in LA County. I don't think there's even a small R enclave anywhere here. Simi, I guess, but that's Ventura County.

473 Orange Cunty

That would be Laguna Beach.

474 Not even close. I'm deeply set in LA County. I don't think there's even a small R enclave anywhere here. Simi, I guess, but that's Ventura County.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at November 22, 2010 02:21 AM (YxBuk)

Before I came out here, I didn't realize how big LA county is. It probably takes an hour to cross it from Ventura Co to Orange, at midnight with no traffic. Or an hour and a half.

You don't just pop down to Orange County from the Valley.

475

I agree with this, but isn't that in and of itself subjective? I mean what hard proof do we have that that is anything more special than someone "getting it  mostly right" back then? Couldn't you keep the framework and discard the rest?

It seems to me that we should be at the point where we don't have to base our assumptions on the unproveable. You raise valid points with regards to Communism but just like someone could pervert Atheism into Communism (and obviously that's verrrrrrrrrrry simplistic in and of itself as Communism had - indeed was primarily -composed of other elements - class warefare & all), why couldn't people pervert a religion into something? I almost see the latter as more frigthening (see the radical Islamists). If you're fighting for Communism, you're fighting for an ideology & a state, if you're a radical fighting for religion, you're fighting for a 'higher power' that cannot, by definition, be proven wrong. Therefore you are always right. Because you are "good" and they are "evil".

I think the point he's trying to make is that if you try to keep the frame work and discard the rest, you're left with something pretty hollow and not going to last.  You're also likely to try filling in that framework with a bunch of bullshit that will pervert your goal.

And you're also right in asking about people perverting a religion into something else.  However most religions seem to be designed to stop those efforts or push them away.  And it is stuff that does happen going back to the crusades where some soldiers decided that a Crusade to retake the Holy Land involved killing Jews in the Rhineland.  The Pope excommunicated the ones responsible.  So yeah you're right in that it could theoretically be perverted for the wrong goals but it doesn't seem like history holds that evidence that any attempts have been successful.

476 I would touch Chris Christie's junk.

477 It probably takes an hour to cross it from Ventura Co to Orange, at midnight with no traffic. Or an hour and a half.

Well, maybe not that long.  I used to go up to Hollywood to watch movies at the Arclight and would get out after midnight, and would have the 5 all to myself all the way back to Anaheim.  Pretty sure it didn't take more than half an hour to get home at those times.

During the day though, yeah.  Going from the Valley to anywhere in OC is a definite trip, and not the good kind.

478  The Pope excommunicated the ones responsible.  So yeah you're right in that it could theoretically be perverted for the wrong goals but it doesn't seem like history holds that evidence that any attempts have been successful.

Posted by: buzzion at November 22, 2010 02:25 AM (oVQFe)

The rise of Isamism is partly because the Islamic world lost its structure when the Mongols sacked Baghdad and killed the Caliph. Since then pretty much anyone can become a mahdi, if he can get followers. This means that instead of the one  organization deciding that Wahabis are unislamic, you have 20 saying yea and 20 nay, and the naysayers have weapons on their side.

Usually organizations have enough stake in the future to be disturbed by ultra radicalism.

479 But you're in LA County right? So I suppose there aren't that many. Are you even in the "more conservative" (heh) eastern part (I think it's the eastern part..)

If you're thinking of the San Gabriel suburbs of Alhambra and Monterey Park, they're about the same as Rum has in the Valley, well off suburban kids living off of hardworking immigrant parents who've acquired the sense of entitlement that CA teachers instill in them

480 Scrolling-through I see some mentions of communion. I Corinthians 11:23-34 is the customary passage read during the administration.

481  Pretty sure it didn't take more than half an hour to get home at those times.

During the day though, yeah.  Going from the Valley to anywhere in OC is a definite trip, and not the good kind.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at November 22, 2010 02:30 AM (F5Gxy)

But its another thirty five miles from Hollywood to Ventura Co. So the hour and a half might be long.

 

482 But its another thirty five miles from Hollywood to Ventura Co.

Okay then, 45 minutes. 

483 538 And, BTW, the "[a]ctually I recall reading that with Asians it breaks down by "type" of Asian" comment is funnier than hell.

Fair point, in retrospect. Heh.

Posted by: Chris in Va at November 22, 2010 02:18 AM (uCjoj)

Sounds like you took it as intended.....if you look at the time between the posts, it was taken up by my attempting to share the humor involved while not unintentionally sounding dismissive or negative. In the West, we live our entire lives with details about the leadership change between Julius and Augustus in Rome -- but miss out on the rise and fall of empires in the East.

The people of such a dynamic area will all have an exciting and detailed history -- even if it's different for each person who we meet. But they all disembark through the same immigration processing at SFO.

484 Before I came out here, I didn't realize how big LA county is. It probably takes an hour to cross it from Ventura Co to Orange, at midnight with no traffic. Or an hour and a half.

I used to go to Manhattan Beach on Saturday nights and get back to Los Feliz going up the 405 to the 101 and down the 5 in about 45 minutes. Not the long way but LA looks pretty awesome at night from the freeways with all the lights

485 Okay then, 45 minutes. 

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at November 22, 2010 02:38 AM (F5Gxy)

you ARE from LA.

486 Not It's the long way but LA looks pretty awesome at night from the freeways with all the lights

FIFM

487 557 *War Furiously Computes the Time Between Louisiana & Rum's Hideaway*

Shhhh....

488 LA can be quite beautiful, but it's generally in ways that its occupants purport to hate.

It's beautiful in its over-the-top lighting....which wastes electricity.

It's beautiful in its ability to move freely.....which wastes gasoline.

It's beautiful in its opportunities for commerce.....which intensify the gap between rich and poor.

It's beautiful in its natural abundance......which shames those who believe that value comes only from governments.

It's beautiful in its individualism.....which enrages those who would control....

489 I'm fading fast....

Keep the 'ron fires burning.

490 My timing is terrible. Anyway, the front pg of Shorpy is a good one and I'll share it later tonight (1860s pics esp). Good night!

491 Good night!

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 22, 2010 02:51 AM (yfJ6g)

Good night Miss 80s!

492 I can go from home to DL in about 50 minutes without traffic. With traffic...2.5 hours.

493 I was kind of handsome some twenty-odd years ago.  If you ignore the eye-circles and had a lot of makeup for me to slather on.  Other than that, yeah, pinup material for sure.

494

The rise of Isamism is partly because the Islamic world lost its structure when the Mongols sacked Baghdad and killed the Caliph. Since then pretty much anyone can become a mahdi, if he can get followers. This means that instead of the one  organization deciding that Wahabis are unislamic, you have 20 saying yea and 20 nay, and the naysayers have weapons on their side.

Usually organizations have enough stake in the future to be disturbed by ultra radicalism.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 22, 2010 02:34 AM (CN+Qv)

Also I consider Islam to be a bit fundamentally different.  I mean one of Islams primary method to convert is by the sword.  That is a method acceptable to them and that seems to be a part of their belief system that can allow them a lot of leeway in things.  Christianity is different.  Their method of conversion is based on preaching the Word of God and spreading Christs message.  I think conversion by the sword did happen when you had instances of the barbarian proto-kingdoms converting and then going on a conquest but that method has been mostly frowned upon, and has even had instances of the Pope smacking down the people that try and telling the forced converts that their conversions don't count if they do not choose to remain Christian. 

 

And OT: I was taking a break from the blog and was playing some Empire: Total War.  Interestingly enough one of the load screens had a quote come up that was relevant to a topic discussed on the blog this week.  It had a quote from Madison that basically said calling him the writer of the Constitution is a load of horseshit and the credit is due to many people and not just him.

495 <anybody here?>

496 I call bullshit.  I have yet to see a TSA person who looks like they were ever in the military, even 20 years and 40 pounds ago. 

But that raises an interesting thought.  I wouldn't mind this crap nearly as much if it were being conducted by current members of the military.  I guess it's a confidence thing.

Funny. I recently had a conversation with a guy who I will call John (I call him that, for a host of reasons but mostly, because his name really is John) who was a retired LEO who did some duty, screening airline passengers immediately post 9/11.

"So John, are you cool with this shit?"

"I basically don't have any problem with deploying these pat-down searches and training personnel to do them in a professional manner, so yes. Yes, Deety I am "cool with this shit"!

"So, if I were a speeder 20 years ago and you or one of your guys caught me, I should expect the same treatment?"

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"Which would be worse, boss?  Buying a ticket or committing a crime?"

"Well, as far as personal dignity goes, you are probably better off in the county jail than in an airport right now.  That being said, in jail, they don't give you your shoes back."

"Seriously, boss?  No shoes? None at all?"

"They give them sandals."

"I don't know. Sounds kinda scary to me. I shall endeavor, as always, to never-ever be a bank-robber!  I'm not sure that I can avoid air travel though..."

"Gawd you are a fucking jackass, aren't you?"

497 We've thought about hiring Christie, but he said he's only willing to abuse teachers union members and liberals (but I repeat myself).

Plus, he'd be too abusive even for us. 

498 RIP. David Nolan founded the Libertarian Party when he was living in Denver in 1971. When he and a few libertarian-oriented friends watched Pres. Nixon announce wage and price controls, he said, “We need another party.”

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