1 Dave in Texas, you are under arrest!

2 The fairness doctrine and internet neutrality coming to you soon....

3 Sean Penn will be pleased.

4 Sherlina? Ahhhhhhh SHIT!

5 Yes, because you people just have too much free speech so we'll take some away and give to somebody who needs it more than you do.

6

I'm suprised the guy lasted as long as he did -- Hugo's getting soft.

And Ed Schiesse can go orally pleasure a syphillitic yak.

7 We need to do that here in the US.

8 Keep in mind that this bag o' wind Ed Schultz was seriously being considered by the Democratic party to run for Senate. People should be reminded of this fact...

9 How does this help Michelle's chubby girls?

10 This won't make you feel any better.

11
In other news:  Upon hearing the joyful news that all freedom of speech in Venezuela is dead,  Sean Penn was found masturbating in public, to a photo of his dear leader, the king of Venezuela, Hugo Chavez.

12 6

I'm suprised the guy lasted as long as he did -- Hugo's getting soft.

And Ed Schiesse can go orally pleasure a syphillitic yak.

Posted by: unknown jane at March 26, 2010 11:08 AM (5/yRG)

I can help Hugo with his little problem!

13 Here it will start as "soft" control. Check instapundit for tales of the new Journalism Centers, paid for by our tax monies.

Obama IMHO is taunting the Right to cause violence. Then, anything goes. It will be for "security" purposes that we have new restrictions on our freedoms.

14 Barry: That gives me an idea. Holder, round up everyone at Fox News

15 I'm on deck!!!

16 Oooooh, Ed's the best!

17

9 Chubby and stupid. Remember the science test?

That's anti-fat hate speech but it is one of the hate speeches that isn't covered in order to end fattiness and save the environment.

Hate speech will only be that speech that is critical of this admin.

 

18

I'm sure that Hugo was just worried that this guy's comments would cause "hate" amongst the public, inspiring them to become so angry that they would throw rocks through office windows even though the offices are located on the 30th floor.

Yup.. it's a darn good thing Hugo had a security force at his beck and call that is answerable to no one else that he could dispatch to arrest and jail this evil hate monger.  Wonder if his armed goons were provided for in a health care bill too?

19 The owner of Venezuela's only remaining TV channel that takes a critical line against President Hugo Chavez was arrested Thursday, raising concerns the government is carrying out a widening crackdown 'Cause, like, ya know, we can't think of anything that would actually get us at the AP to really say out loud that Hugo is crushing dissent like a size 13 DD steel-toed boot on a quarter-inch cockroach. Unless you can prove Hugo is a right-winger.

20 How does this help Michelle's chubby girls?

They've got somewhere to go live after the collapse?

21
Hugo should obviously get a PEACE PRIZE!

22
#10

"The chief proponent of this thinking – which amounts to an unprecedented government intrusion into our own country’s media -- is Professor Robert McChesney, founder of the Orwellian-named Free Press, one of the most influential organizations in the growing “media reform” movement on the far-left.

Free Press’ curious stance on media reform can best be summed up by McChesney who suggests that, “Any serious effort to reform the media system would have to necessarily be part of a revolutionary program to overthrow the capitalist system itself.""


Leftists must over-throw freedom to make life pure. 
hmmm -what other historical figure did that?

23 How does this help Michelle's chubby girls? The TV station in question will now advertise lap-band surgery, using hand puppets and a loris as spokesmen.

24 Just a matter of time before Hugo takes the patented South American Dictator path to having his head placed on a pike and marched through the streets of Caracas. He thinks he will be the exception, but he ain't too bright. Neither are his supporters.

25 Chavez and Castro approve of Ovomit's policies.  A majority of Americans disapprove fuckface's policies.  Approval by       socialists/communists....disapproval by taxpaying, military serving, patriotic Americans.  What's wrong with this picture?  Mmmmmm???????

26 The fairness doctrine and internet neutrality coming to you soon....

Don't forget the FCC getting involved with broadband. The FCC's original mandate supposedly was based on the airwaves being "owned by the people" therefore the government had the authority to regulate it.

Now they think they can regulate internet access.  Keep in mind that the real original mandate for the FCC was to shutdown a popular opponent of FDR.

They did shut him down and got away with it.  The "people" stood idly by.

27
The left are so upset about talk radio.  Never mind that the democrat/left own all the major news outlets like:
NBC
CBS
ABC
MSNBC
Time
Newsweek
The NY Times
The LA Times
etc...


btw- don't buy anything made by General Electric.

28
Bottom line;  Left-wingers HATE freedom of speech.

The hate it.

29
don't buy anything made by General Electric.

Almost impossible.  You know how big they are in turbines of all kinds? 

30

28  To be fair, they do like it when they us fascist wingers.

Oh the irony. It's rich, isn't it?

31

btw- don't buy anything made by General Electric.

Way ahead of Ya. Drove 20 miles last year to avoid buying a GE hot water heater. Screw GE.

32 Wow. Nice bit of truth Ed stuck in there at the end. I wonder if any of his audience registered that. Probably not. HELLO liberals -- Working people who tend more to conservative listen to the radio, they can do that while they work. YOUR base can watch daytime TV because they don't have to worry about losing their income either from uncle Sam or that trust fund.

33 Keep in mind that this bag o' wind Ed Schultz was seriously being considered by the Democratic party to run for Senate.

People should be reminded of this fact...

I assume you also got Scott Brown's e-mail about his next possible opponent: Rachel Maddow. (I kid you not.)

(One wonders how MSNBC will replace such talents.)

34
Almost impossible.  You know how big they are in turbines of all kinds? 

Well, sure, but they also make household appliances.
I've noticed GE are advertising that they once sponsored Ronald Reagan.  See!
When leftists have to trick and fool people to get you to buy something, I use my freedom of choice and just. say. no.

Of course that freedom of choice is diminishing as leftists gain power.

35
Old And Busted: dissent
The New Hotness: dictatorships

36 My friend in Venezuela sent me an email saying the legislature is voting to restrict IM, Skype, etc.

He said the people year after year said "Oh they'll never do THAT!" to freedom after freedom.  It can (has) happened here.

37 don't buy anything made by General Electric. The Federal government helps us bring good things to life.

38 I'm suprised the guy lasted as long as he did -- Hugo's getting soft.

First good news I've heard all month.

39

Almost impossible.  You know how big they are in turbines of all kinds? 

Buy /Rolls-Royce. Or Pratt & Whitney.

40 We got a fucking crisis going on here folks

Crisis Event: South Korean Ship Sinking In Yellow Sea Stratfor Today » March 26, 2010 | 1506 GMT

Applying STRATFOR analysis to breaking news
According to South KoreaÂ’s Yonhap News Agency, a 1,500-ton naval vessel with a crew of 104 sank off of the island of Baengnyeong in the Yellow Sea on March 26. Based on size and crew displacement it is likely either an Ulsan-class guided missile frigate or a Po Hang-class corvette. The incident took place between 9 and 10 a.m. local time. The cause is unknown, but the BBC has reported that a torpedo was involved. Seoul has said there was an explosion at the stern, and it is investigating whether a torpedo attack from North Korea was the cause, according to YTN TV. The contested waters between North and South Korea do see the occasional naval clashes, but the loss of a surface combatant on this scale would be extremely significant.

41 On Drudge

North Korea may have sunk a South Korean ship...

42 I assume you also got Scott Brown's e-mail about his next possible opponent: Rachel Maddow. (I kid you not.) (One wonders how MSNBC will replace such talents.) I just signed the contract!

43

OT but serious news: S.Korean ship sinking, North attack suspected-media

SEOUL, March 26 (Reuters) - A South Korean naval vessel with more than 100 aboard was sinking on Friday in waters near North Korea and Seoul was investigating whether it was hit in a torpedo attack by the North, South Korean media said.

Broadcaster SBS said many South Korean sailors on the stricken vessel were feared dead.

South Korea's YTN TV network said the government was investigating whether the sinking was due to a torpedo attack by the North, and Yonhap news agency said the Seoul government had convened an emergency meeting of security-related ministers.

Yonhap also reported a South Korean navy ship firing towards an unidentified vessel to the north.

44 I've noticed that Barry and the boys and the MSM are falling all over themselves condemning Chavez.

45 oops. sock off.

46 Way ahead of Ya. Drove 20 miles last year to avoid buying a GE hot water heater. Screw GE.

Get one made by A. O. Smith. They have a factory in McBee, SC.  Rednecks got to make a living too.

47
Buy /Rolls-Royce. Or Pratt & Whitney.

Think power generation.  If any new nuke plants are actually built, you can bet Wee Wee will make sure they're using GE generators.

48

I think Ed Shultz should cut back to two fifths of Jack Black a day.  You could get a tan standing too close to that face.

49 13. Obama IMHO is taunting the Right to cause violence. Then, anything goes. It will be for "security" purposes that we have new restrictions on our freedoms. PJ, I will pray that you are not prescient.

50 North Korea may have sunk a South Korean ship... Bambi's first real crisis. Hopefully he'll keep his mouth shut (and tie Joe to a bed).

51 With no opposition TV to worry about now Hugo can focus on rounding up all the short wave receivers.

52

Get one made by A. O. Smith. They have a factory in McBee, SC.  Rednecks got to make a living too.

Heh. Yes, we do.

53 If any new nuke plants are actually built, you can bet Wee Wee

Eco-wackos are going to tie new plants up in court until well after Anybody's inauguration.

54
Way ahead of Ya. Drove 20 miles last year to avoid buying a GE hot water heater. Screw GE.

Exercising your right to free speech.

55
North Korea may have sunk a South Korean ship...

We need to drop Sheriff Joe behind the lines of the NORKs, let him reenact D-Day.

56

So very, very on-topic:  This Week's Ad.

57 I'm sure Obama will solve the Korean crisis by saying S. Korea acted stupidly.

58 Eco-wackos are going to tie new plants up in court until well after Anybody's inauguration.

Not to worry anyway, none of the GE BWR plants are being planned or built (as far as I know). The two in GA and the ones elsewhere that are planned or Westinghouse PWRs.

59 North Korea may have sunk a South Korean ship...

Lil Kim knows how to get goodies out of Obama.

60 So very, very on-topic: This Week's Ad. Posted by: Dang Straights at March 26, 2010 11:29 AM (fx8sm) Hmm. This might be the time to talk the wife into a home defense shotgun.

61 We need a thread on the Korea incident.

62

If it's illegal to spread false information by "any medium" here, Obama will be taken away and never heard from again.

But he does get to keep his doctor.

63 I'm suprised the guy lasted as long as he did -- Hugo's getting soft.

Unless you get them all in one batch, the last one's always the toughest.

64

We need to drop Sheriff Joe behind the lines of the NORKs, let him reenact D-Day.

The landing in Korea was at Veracruz.  Everyone knows that.

65

Obama issues press release regarding S. Korean Naval incident:

Today, North Korea sank a South Korean Navy ship.  This kind of action by North Korea is very unhelpful in our attempt to get them back to the negotiating table.  I am asking them to avoid actions like this in the future.

66 FYI, the Andrew Sullivan sockpuppets are funny about as often as Marmaduke.

67

I have an economic question for the morons.

 

Do you own stocks in a non 401k or retirement account? If so do you plan on cashing out before Jan 1 2011 when all the higher tax rates go into affect?

i'm temped to pull as much money out of the private sector, and therefore out of the reach of the public sector, as i can.

68 Lil Kim knows how to get goodies out of Obama.

Posted by: Mal at March 26, 2010 11:30 AM (Z+qzA)

ANY communist dictator knows how to get what he wants from Obama: just phone the White House and TELL him.

It will be delivered in short order and all dissenting opinion branded as "RACIST!"

69 Foreign policy goal for next administration: Venezuelan Contras. The Leftist dupes will of course fellate Chavez, just as they fellated the Sandinistas.

70

I'm not too familiar with Ed Schultz, but didn't he used to be a moderate/conservative democrat when he started on the radio?

 

71 Hugo is sooooo cuddly when he arrests people who don't agree with him!

72 Today, North Korea sank a South Korean Navy ship. This kind of action by North Korea is very unhelpful in our attempt to get them back to the negotiating table. I am asking them to avoid actions like this in the future. I almost believe that's real. A year of Bambi has destroyed my irony meter.

73

OT

My Russkie engineer (legal naturalized citizen) has been very distressed since Zero was elected. He got more distressed when Healthscam passed. He came in this morning and asked me to help him pick out a shotgun and pistol. He came here to get away from communism.

74

We need to drop Sheriff Joe behind the lines of the NORKs, let him reenact D-Day.

Anyone else get a mental image of John Belushi with his face blacked trying to be stealthy and sneaking into the Dean's office in animal house?  Lol

75

Lil Kim knows how to get goodies out of Obama.

The squeaky wheel get the grease free money along with a slap on the hand.

I pretty sure Barry will be sending a delegation very soon for lessons on how to crush the opposition like a grape negotiations.

76 Imagine a boot stamping on a human face forever. -your future.

77 >Owner of (the last) Anti-Chavez TV Station Arrested in Venezuela


are you getting this, Fox News Channel?

78 “What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms.” – Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787. ME 6:373, Papers 12:356

79 I wouldn't worry to much about lil' ed shultz.  You gotta be at least 10% smarter than the equipment you are operating.

80

Because free speech is such a precious resource that it must be rationed.

81

77 Imagine a boot MADE AT A GOVERMENT FACTORY AT 'FAIR' WAGES stamping on a human face forever.

-your future.

Sorry. Needed to correct. 

82 Our current FCC chairman, Julius Genachowski, must be getting a woody seeing this news.

83 Sean Penn has a hardon at this news

84

My Russkie engineer (legal naturalized citizen) has been very distressed since Zero was elected. He got more distressed when Healthscam passed. He came in this morning and asked me to help him pick out a shotgun and pistol. He came here to get away from communism.

If he's not to familiar with weapons I'd recommend something in a 12-14 gauge pump for the shotgun, probably a 14 unless he's fired one before.  Plenty of stopping power, but a lot less recoil and a lot easier to use for the novice.  Also much better for home defense purposes since even with buckshot it won't penetrate most interior walls so a stray round probably won't end up killing somebody you give a rat's butt about.

For a pistol Smith and Wesson revolvers, something in a .38 would probably be a good choice.  Again revolvers being much easier to store and use overall for a novice.

If he's somewhat familiar with firearms then my personal choice in shotguns is mossberg, and for pistols I prefer something in the 9mm category with high ammo capacity.  Glock and Beretta both being nice, reliable and accurate in my experience.

85 OT: Gitmo Lawyer "Completely Shocked" His Terrorist Client Went Back to Terrorism: http://bit.ly/dqhAgC

86

My Russkie engineer (legal naturalized citizen) has been very distressed since Zero was elected. He got more distressed when Healthscam passed. He came in this morning and asked me to help him pick out a shotgun and pistol. He came here to get away from communism.

maddogg: Where do you live? Here in the Sacramento area, which for some reason became a magnet for Slavic immigrants (kind of refreshing to see non-English signs in Russian rather than just Spanish, in an odd way), I hear the same sentiments all the time.

They also see the Gay Putsch of CA state politics as an attempt to destroy their freedom of religion. The Slavs here tend to be quite religious as well.

87 I see a bright new career oportunity for Ed Schultz.

88 Oh boy!  Now Barry and Nancy will be on the air screaming for 'fairness'.

89 There is a sinking South Korean naval vessel, raising concerns that Kim Jung-Il may have finally lost his mind. Unexpectedly, President Obama gave another speech darign Republicans to repeal his law.

90

Maybe this is why Obama/Pelosi/Reid et al don't seem the slightest bit worried about the November 2010 elections.

Perhaps FAIRNESS is coming sooner than we think, and they know it.

91 You know, Conspiracy theories a la John Birch tend to be wacky. But one can't help but see a pattern here.

92 At noon of the new spring a great ship of war will disappear with out a sound, for the new messiah shall slay his enemies with its tongue. -shit nostrodamus said but didn't write down vol 3

93

Ed Schultz just said "it's time for Congress to even out the audience".  That goes way beyond even forcing equal time on air for every point of view and opinion, regardless of the demand of the consumers.  Just think about that...even out the audience.

I consider the ramifications of this statement to be even worse than Ed Schultz allowing his spittle to come into contact with my face.

94

Ed Schultz just said "it's time for Congress to even out the audience".

Funny, I just said "it's time to even out Ed Schultz".

Dunno what that means, but it sounds eliminationist.

95 Were talking THE OUTER LIMITS senerio WE,LL CONTROL ALL YOU SEE AND HEAR just like OBAMA wants to do just like all dirty commie scum always do why else are they pushing THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE

96 Typical...can't make it in the real world of competition, product, service and IDEAS, so the leftist wants granny government to come in a make everything better for them. In a world of rainbows & unicorns everything is safe, warm & fuzzy until the big mean ogres; conservative & capitalists come and ruin it for everyone!! Go tell it to your mommy Schlutz, you commie-pussy-freak.   

97 Actually, it sounds a lot like Canada, to me.  "Causing a public panic" vs. the "hate speech" thought police?  It's just two different flavors of the same tyranny.  Scary stuff.

98 Rush is off from today until Wed, taking a 15-hr flight somewhere, my guess Aus or N.Z.  Likely it's a scouting trip, and not just for a new medical center.   The next step after demonizing dissent in criminalizing dissent.  The smart man is prepared.

99

For a pistol Smith and Wesson revolvers, something in a .38 would probably be a good choice.  Again revolvers being much easier to store and use overall for a novice.

I shall soon be purchasing a 4" Ruger GP-100 .357.

A good gun by all accounts, with effectively no difference with the S&W as a close range weapon except it is about $100 cheaper at $450. By many accounts possibly the toughest and most reliable .357 revolver ever made.

100 WTF! I just got rid of that puppet!

101 He was spreading false information about my BFF.

102

for pistols I prefer something in the 9mm category with high ammo capacity.  Glock and Beretta both being nice

They are.

But IMO, 9mm is too small. If I shoot you, you should die from it.

If you don't die, you should at least get knocked on your ass anyway.

As I see it, you do not need more rounds - you need better aim. If you can't drop 1-2 targets with 6 .357 rounds you have a bigger problem that more ammo won't really fix.

If you're engauging more then 3 targets, you're in a damn battle space and you need a damn submachine gun. 22-rounds of semi-auto 9mm isn't gonna cut it either.

Also I'll say for a beginner, I think a glock is harder to shoot then a revolver.

Revolvers are generally heavier and so have less recoil and are more accurate then pistols.

Glocks are featherweight guns. I've held plastic squirt guns that were heavier then a Glock .45.

103

A good gun by all accounts, with effectively no difference with the S&W as a close range weapon except it is about $100 cheaper at $450. By many accounts possibly the toughest and most reliable .357 revolver ever made.

It is a nice gun, but I shy away from recommending .357 to most beginners.  Great stopping power but high recoil can be pretty intimidating to first time shooters.

104 It is a nice gun, but I shy away from recommending .357 to most beginners.

Not so if done properly. My wife had never shot a pistol before. I started her out on a S&W Model 19 with hot loaded .357 rounds.  She was doing fine with it before using up half a box of shells. (5" group at about 20 feet).

A .357 doesn't really kick that much but it is damn loud so make sure they know to use hearing protection when practicing.

A .357 is a good weapon for all around carry but for concealed I prefer the .45 in the Colt model 1911A1 cut down version.  Now that one is NOT for a beginner.

Best home defense is still the good old 12 gauge shotgun using 6 shot.

105

True... but on a medium or large frame revolver, honestly, I do not notice any difference between (say, 120gr) .357 and .38.

More flash, more bang, but not really any difference in punch - which is VERY slight anyway compared to like a Glock.

For certain .38's or low grain .357's out out a heavy .357 revolver have less kickback then .9mm or .38 coming out of a lot of pistols.

Plus if you please you can shoot .38's out of it until you're not a beginner anymore.

And then, graduate to what is probably the most effective and versatile handgun round without having to get another gun.

106

Sean Penn must be so proud of all the fellatio he gives Hugo.

107

But IMO, 9mm is too small. If I shoot you, you should die from it.

If you don't die, you should at least get knocked on your ass anyway.

As I see it, you do not need more rounds - you need better aim. If you can't drop 1-2 targets with 6 .357 rounds you have a bigger problem that more ammo won't really fix.

I'll stick with my trusty 9mm.  Granted, won't penetrate most bullet proof vests.  Don't much care.  At pistol ranges two or three rounds center mass will put your target down even if they don't penetrate, and I can normally squeeze off 2 to 3 in the same time it takes me to bring something higher calibre back on target from barrel climb.  Getting hit with 9mm at those ranges will feel a lot like getting hit by a car or being worked over by baseball bats even if they don't go through the vest itself.  Either way your taret is down, no longer returning fire and if necessary you can always follow up later with a headshot at a motionless, helpless target.

.357 is a nice round, good stopping power, but the high recoil means follow up is a bit slower even for an experienced shooter.  Also I prefer weapons that don't have as much "carry", meaning they don't penetrate interior walls quite as easily and cut down on the stray round problem.  If I do miss I'd rather have that round run out of energy quick rather than run the risk of hitting something I really didn't want hit.

Also I prefer something with a higher ammo capacity from my military days.  If it hits the fan I'd rather not have to stop and worry about reloading until I'm fairly certain I'm under a decent amount of cover.  Not as likely that this would be a consideration now, but if nothing else I like knowing I have a few extra rounds in case my target has taken cover and I need to keep his sorry ass occupied until I can move to a better position.

I also generally recommend revolvers for new shooters, pretty much zero chance of a feed problem, and the weight does provide a nice stable platform.  Much easier to use, maintain and store for a novice shooter than an automatic.

108 I was sort of involved with a woman from Caracas not too long ago.  She kept inviting me to visit her, and her country house, but I just found the whole idea of going there scary; and in the back of my mind, I even had this semi-rational fear of being arrested at the airport based on, like probably several hundred Google-able blog comments that might get me imprisoned by Hugo.

109

True... but on a medium or large frame revolver, honestly, I do not notice any difference between (say, 120gr) .357 and .38.

Hmm.. hadn't considered that... my experience with .357 was 158 grain wad cutters, suppose if you were to use a more standard 120 grain load in a good sized revolver that would cut down recoil considerably.

The noise factor would probably still be a consideration for most novices, at least until they got enough practice to realize that it makes a really loud bang, but on the upside considering most of the folks you'd likely be shooting at would be novices as well might be a bit of an advantage.

110 These Hostage people, why do you keep linking them?

111

The .45ACP Glock hops on me. It's not bad, nothing I'm not perfectly fine with shooting 100 rounds out of, but it goes up a good couple inches with a shot and I have to bring it back down.

Not so with a hefty 50 ounce revolver. It pretty much just makes noise but stays put.

The .45ACP Glock is probably the most kickback I've ever experienced on a handgun. But I would not put it past my mother to fire it.

(Now, I've seen fired but never happened to fire the .454 casull and .50 AE type handguns and that's a whole different story. I saw a guy firing a .50 S&W revolver last Saturday. You feel the pressure wave 3 booths over. It's like *pop*pop*pop*pop*pop*BAWWWOOOOM* and then the whole range goes silent for a minute except for the guy shouting 'HAHAHA OH YEAH!").

But on the Glock, honestly I think the 9 or 10 rounds of ammunition that go in weigh more then the empty gun does. So it just hops around on you and is hard to hold still for me.

112 More flash, more bang, but not really any difference in punch - which is VERY slight anyway compared to like a Glock.

The velocity of the rounds depends on barrel length and the rate of burn of the powder used.

A .357 with a 6" barrel using slower burning pistol powder will develop much higher velocity than a 9mm in an auto. However, if you use a cut down 2" barrel you have to go to a faster burning powder and there is some difference in velocity but not much.

That is if you load your own. Factory shells usually compromise in both directions.

113

*pop*pop*pop*pop*pop*BAWWWOOOOM* and then the whole range goes silent for a minute except for the guy shouting 'HAHAHA OH YEAH!").

And then, 30 seconds later, "You wanna fire it? My hand hurts."

114

The velocity of the rounds depends on barrel length and the rate of burn of the powder used.

They were factory rounds.

So you're saying that the noise and flash increased, but not the kickback, I was using too slow burning a powder and it was escaping the gun?

It was a 6" barrel I was firing. But the ammo was el-cheapo stuff.

115

Outside of a civil war (which is what the Administration is trying to orchestrate, btw), the most effective way to deal with these anti-American domestic enemies like Schultz is to capture the Senate and House and then start impeaching socialist enemy judges. Then we can reverse the '50's ruling about "Teaching Communism does not equal Advocation of Violent Overthrow since, ya know, they're just Teaching about Advocation."  Socialism, international (communism), national (naziism/fascism), or petit are all incompatible with our Constitutional Republic and are based on the requirement that the Constitution and our culture be destroyed. Same as with monarchists - they're not able to be Americans if they adhere to such vile political cults.  By definition they are all guilty of sedition at the least.

Instead of pretending they aren't seditious traitors; strip every fucking one of those enemy lickspittles like Schultz of their hated American Citizenship, sieze all their assets, and deport them AND their families to North Korea, Venezuela, or Cuba. If they have children under the age of 12, have them taken away to prevent the innocent kids from being abused by socialist/communist indoctrination.

But seriously, I can see no way that the like of them and real Americans can anymore co-exist. They are an absolute and imminent threat to liberty. They must be ejected from our Republic for it to survive.

116

A .357 is a good weapon for all around carry but for concealed I prefer the .45 in the Colt model 1911A1 cut down version.  Now that one is NOT for a beginner.

And there you have it too - There is no carry at all in my state.

My penchant for bigass revolvers is not totally seperate from the fact that concealed carry usage is not even an afterthought for me.

Trying to shove a 6" large frame .357 S&W revolver into my pants would be awkward.

117 Best home defense weapon, imho, is the 12ga,preferably with a slug barrel, the shot pattern at 10-15 ft is about the size of a golf ball. Center mass, that's a lethal hit.
 
 Plus, as was said, it eliminates the problem of shooting some one(thing) you don't wish to. I'd select that over my beloved M-1911 just about every time.

118 Stand back, Congressman Cleaver.  Ed's a spitter.

119

@ 85 Stuck

A 14 Guage? How many of those do you have?  I have fired many many rounds through a Remington 870. No malfunctions. I would stake my life on that shotgun.And Revolver is best choice, with Tarus being a good value, probably in .357. But I have Rugers among others. S&W, like Colt is mighty pricey

 

@87 Curmudgeon

He came in through Seattle, and his Dad still lives there. But he is now an Arkie. Says the Grey Squirrel is most dangerous animal in Arkansas. Heh, one whipped his ass in his own attic...

120 So you're saying that the noise and flash increased, but not the kickback, I was using too slow burning a powder and it was escaping the gun?

What I understood from your post was that you didn't feel like you were getting any increase in "punch" from the .357. I used to prefer Speer bullets in either the 125 gr or 140 gr semi-jacketed hollow point.  I used a slow burning Hercules pistol powder and got high velocity with the 125 gr bullets.

A faster burning powder is needed for the short barrels such as a 2" snub nose or in the typical automatic which only has a 2" floating barrel. I forget the name now but I used a ball type powder than burned very fast.

If you were firing a commercial round in a 6" barrel revolver you should have got all the burn you can get from that round. Normally they gear theirs up as a compromise  faster than the slow but slower than the fastest.

In any cased you should get a lot more punch from a 6" barrel .357 than you get from a 9mm glock.  I will call once exception to that because someone mentioned 158 gr wadcutters up earlier.

A non-jacked soft lead wad-cutter will not give you much punch at all. They have to severely low loaded to prevent lead fouling in the barrel.  A friend of mine worked in printing company that his father owned and he used to cast bullets from lino-type which is harder than normal soft lead. He could fire one cylinder of lino-type bullets and the barrel would lead so bad the groups would expand to 12 or 14 inches at short distances.

The next time you are in a sporting goods store see if they have any reloading manual and check out the relative velocities of the more common rounds and loads. It will probably surprise you.  

121 Trying to shove a 6" large frame .357 S&W revolver into my pants would be awkward.

I carried my Model 19 in a holster on my hip unconcealed in GA. (w/ a permit)

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I managed to get 850 fps out of a 2 1/2" snubbie in .44 special using Power Pistol. Thats pretty good punch from a shubbie with 200 grain bullets. Yes, I used a crony.

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In the .357 revolvers I've been looking at, the Taurus and the S&W are basically the same price (I'd go with S&W with no price difference) and the Colt is fricken a good bit more.

The Ruger revolvers (as I am told and have seen) run about $100 less then equivalent S&W and Taurus guns, and the Colts maybe $200-300 more.

Ruger GP-100 runs about $450, a S&W and a 7-shot Taurus about $550 and Colt like, I dunno, a Python is $1200 or something. That was the first thing I looked at and immediately ruled out on grounds of price.

Rossi (made by Taurus) is as cheap as the GP-100 or maybe cheaper but I'm skeptical of those guns. And they all seem much lighter in weight.

124 850 fps is about what you get from a 200 gr .45 IIANM. That will definitely put someone on the ground whether they are wearing body armor or not.

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BTW, I shoot cast lead bullets with no lead fouling. I use Liquid Alox from Lee dusted with mika powder dry lube to take away the stickiness.

126 The Pythons are so high because they don't make them anymore.  They are also one of the best crafted .357s every made.

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126 850 fps is about what you get from a 200 gr .45 IIANM. That will definitely put someone on the ground whether they are wearing body armor or not.

Yes, and in a lightweight  CC revolver, most umpleasant to shoot. But lethal.

128 BTW, I shoot cast lead bullets with no lead fouling.

That buddy of mine used some kind of lube as well but still had a lot of fouling. He was also trying for high velocity in a .357 with the cast bullets.

I am assuming you are talking about the 850 fps .44.

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I am assuming you are talking about the 850 fps .44.

Yes, My son had the revolver, and tried cast bullets in it with quite a bit of fouling. He sold me the pistol cheap, and I made some mods, and used the Liquid Alox bullet lube. No fouling, none. I love the hateful little thing.

130 He sold me the pistol cheap, and I made some mods, and used the Liquid Alox bullet lube.

That's good.

I have also heard that if you load 3 lead rounds and then followed by a jacketed round that it will clean the fouling out.

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I have also heard that if you load 3 lead rounds and then followed by a jacketed round that it will clean the fouling out.

I couldn't say, never having tried it. I just use the lube. And your buddy should buy Richard Lee's book on reloading. He has several chapters devoted to working up the correct alloys for cast bullets. And with gas checks, he says 2500 fps can be attained without fouling. I haven't advanced to rifle bullets as yet, but you can work up your own alloys, or Midwest USA has many casting alloys ready for the melting pot. Along with molds, gas checks, and everything else you need. Lee bullet molds are great and cost less than all others.

132 Who cares? The only decent Venezuelan products are their luscious women. Even their oil sucks. They must have even had moldy, mildewed fossils.

133 And your buddy should buy Richard Lee's book on reloading.

LOL, I haven't seen him in a long time. All that was going on in another State over 30 years ago. He may have found some new stuff by now.

I used to have a Hornady Book, a Speer Book, and a book that came with the press. I liked the Speer stuff the best because they had an "accuracy" load for each bullet design.

I got out of the reloading business a long time ago because it got so expensive for the components and where I live now there are not many good places to go shoot anyway.

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Who cares? The only decent Venezuelan products are their luscious women.

Reason enough to do a Noriega job on Chavez, right now.

135 My "progressive" "friends" support Chavez's shutting down of opposition media and jailing of opponents, so yes, I'm sure they would be very supportive of outlawing dissent here in America too.

136 My "progressive" "friends" support Chavez's shutting down of opposition media and jailing of opponents

Those aren't "progressives", those are hardcore Stalinist communists.  The typical  mush brained do-gooder progressive would not support such things.

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But on the Glock, honestly I think the 9 or 10 rounds of ammunition that go in weigh more then the empty gun does. So it just hops around on you and is hard to hold still for me.

Posted by: Entropy at March 26, 2010 01:27 PM (IsLT6)

I'm honestly trying to understand how those words put together mean something.

Sarcasm aside, a Glock .45 recoils about like a .22. I've never even seen anyone have a problem with one. Eees confusing.

And to the prior statements about a 14-gauge shotgun, I think there's a little confusion about the characteristics of a survival gun. For example, if you need to call up a historical society to get ammunition, it's probably not a good choice. You can get loads for 12-gauge at any power level you like.

And the guns don't cost $20 grand because they were handmade by Priests of Vulcan, either.

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In the right hands, a .22  will suffice for home defense. Anything more powerful will do more damage to your home than it will do to a burglar.

Personally, I prefer a baseball bat. Dianne prefers a cast iron skillet. Although a burglar in our home would be more likely to break his neck tripping over our sons' toys than to sustain a lump on his head in this house. 

139 I'm an editor of the newspaper. one day time a foreigner founded a telephone call to me. He mentioned in chinese language program that he liked our newspaper really much, which founded me really happy. Then I mentioned "Could you inform me some impression about our newspaper?"

The foreigner spoke a lot. But I didn't know which vocabulary he spoke. it absolutely was not Chinese, nor Japanese. Was he speaking Spanish?" Could you talk Chinese? Which vocabulary do you talk just now?" I asked. most ideal after silence for just about any while, the foreigner answered possessing only a little disappointment. "I'm an Englishman. I spoke chinese language program with you just now." Oh, my god, the tears arrived out even although i experienced been laughing. "You'd much better talk English." He started out to talk and talked a lot. thinking about that his chinese language program was truly poor, I attempted speaking with him in English.

After numerous words, he asked, "Are you speaking Latin? I couldn't catch any term which you said. I can completely grasp a complete great offer should you talk Chinese." Oh, my goodness. "Is my English truly poor? No, I don't think so. possibly he is definitely an Englishman who can not completely grasp traditional American English." I mentioned to myself.

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