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April 17, 2014

Paul Krugman Gets Pwn3d Like a Loudmouth in a Woody Allen Movie
— Ace

There's a famous scene in Annie Hall when a blowhard idiot pontificates about Fellini and Marshall McLuhan. Woody Allen (or "Alvie Singer") becomes increasingly annoyed by the boor, until he at last pulls the actual Marshall McLuhan out from behind an obstruction.

Marshall McLuhan then tells the guy he's an idiot, and that he "know[s] nothing of my work."

Why am I telling about you this? It's on YouTube:

Then Woody Allen turns to the camera and says, "Boy, if life were only [really] like this."

Well, sometimes life really does work like this.

Sometimes an egregious blowhard really does get pulled aside by the man whose work he is (wrongly) pontificating about and get told that he knows nothing of his work.

It just happened to Paul Krugman.

Krugman's been commenting on the work of Dan Kahan. Kahan's a professor of law at Yale who writes a lot about "cultural cognition," which is just the idea that individual people will tend to think, reason, and decide according to the patterns instilled in them by the cultural cohort within which they reside.

In other words, partisans tend to parrot like-minded partisans.

Although I'm sure it goes beyond actual political partisanship, to general social and philosophical outlook.

So Lesser Krugman, Ezra Klein, had written about this (himself getting big parts of it wrong, naturally), and then Paul Krugman wrote about Klein writing about it, and Krugman's main complaint with Ezra Klein was that he hadn't been partisan enough in his analysis.

Whereas Kahan describes cultural cognition as affecting, of course, both the left and right, Krugman insisted that No, it almost entirely affects the right, Becuz Theyre Dumb.

By the way, Klein was already pretty partisan about this, briefly acknowledging the phenomenon on the left, before turning with considerably more brio to talk about how dumb the right is.

But Krugman said, basically, Nah, you shouldn't have even conceded that much. Look we're just better. Period.

And do you know what happened next?

Magic happened next.

Kahan himself considered Krugman's "empirical proof" that the left was less subject to the effects of cultural cognition (group think), and... laughed out loud.

He really says that. Well, he says "guffawed."

Okay, I've finally caught my breath after laughing myself into state of hyperventilation as a result of reading Krugman's latest proof (this is actually a replication of an earlier empirical study on his part) that ideologically motivated reasoning is in fact perfectly symmetric with respect to right-left ideology.
Rather than just guffawing appreciatively, it's worth taking a moment to call attention to just how exquisitely self-refuting his "reasoning" is!
There's the great line, of course, about how his "lived experience" (see? I told you, he's doing empirical work!) confirms that motivated cognition "is not, in fact, symmetric between liberals and conservatives."
But what comes next is an even more subtle -- and thus an even more spectacular! -- illustration of what it looks like when one's reason is deformed by tribalism:

Yes, liberals are sometimes subject to bouts of wishful thinking. But can anyone point to a liberal equivalent of conservative denial of climate change, or the Â“unskewingÂ” mania late in the 2012 campaign, or the frantic efforts to deny that Obamacare is in fact covering a lot of previously uninsured Americans?
Uh, no, PK. I mean seriously, no.

You know nothing of my work, Krugman.

I won't detail Kahan's refutation of Krugman's re-writing of his work. You can read his own words for that.

But his main point is that Krugman misses the point entirely. Krugman asserts, at the outset, that progressive beliefs must be correct, and therefore, anyone holding those beliefs must be better at reasoning.

Not so, Kahan replies -- you've missed the whole point of my work. Entirely. You can measure reasoning, but you'd measure reasoning by actually measuring reasoning, that is, taking the partisans of both sides and seeing how they react when presented with a provably true but ideologically discomfiting piece of evidence.

Instead, Krugman just assumes Progs R Smarterer because, you know, Progs R Smarterer.

That Krugman is too thick to see that one can't infer anything about the quality of partisans' reasoning from the truth or falsity of their beliefs is ... another element of Krugman's proof that ideological reasoning is symmetric across right and left!

In other words, Paul Krugman, posing as a Champion of Empiricism and purely-rational thought, himself discards the need for actual empirical evidence on a key point because it gels with the conclusion he already had in mind -- and thereby proves he's more infected tribal thinking than anyone else who's entered the discussion.

Thus directly self-refuting himself, and disproving the very claim he seeks to "prove."

For in fact, that "the other side" is closed-minded is one of the positions that partisans are unreasoningly committed to.

And this close-mindedness more and more frequently takes this form:

1. You are a racist, moronic, barely-human monster.

2. For evidence of such, see point 1.

3. The fact that you won't accept this proof proves that you are close-minded and hostile to "new ideas."

4. Which in turn proves -- as if it needed further proof! -- that you're a racist, moronic, barely-human monster.

If you want to read more of Kahan's theorizing on "motivated reasoning" (that is, what we usually call "reasoning backwards," figuring out the evidence and logic backwards from the conclusion you've begun with, you can read this.

More quotes at Volokh.

Thanks to @rdbrewer4 for this.

Why, this Paul Krugman is worth every penny of the $25,000 per month CUNY is paying him to serve as a Paris-Hilton-like brand ambassador for their studies in income inequality.

Who better to declaim about income inequality than a guy making $25,000 per month as a show-up-to-a-few-of-our-parties-and-collect-a-check side-gig?

Posted by: Ace at 11:02 AM | Comments (207)
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1 Dumbass.

Posted by: NCKate at April 17, 2014 11:03 AM (BD6t/)

2 That's righteous

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 17, 2014 11:06 AM (cyxit)

3 "Krugman's been commenting on the work of Dan Kahan. Kahan's a professor of law at Yale who writes a lot about "cultural cognition," which is just the idea that individual people will tend to think, reason, and decide according to the patterns instilled in them by the cultural cohort within which they reside." Sheep? I denounce myself.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 17, 2014 11:06 AM (bb5+k)

4 Clearly Kahan doesn't know what Kahan was talking about.

Posted by: Paul K at April 17, 2014 11:08 AM (hFL/3)

5 Can we just go ahead and say now that all Nobel Prizes outside of the hard, physical sciences are meaningless?

Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 17, 2014 11:08 AM (rt3TY)

I think "laughing myself into state of hyperventilation" probably included some laughing out loud.

I'm only commenting because this is a comments section. The post itself is such a self-contained jewel that it defies further explication.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 17, 2014 11:09 AM (JtwS4)

7 Instead, Krugman just assumes Progs R Smarterer because, you know, Progs R Smarterer.-Ace Not only that, they care more deeply than the average moron.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 17, 2014 11:09 AM (HVff2)

8 I can't wait til Krugman declares Kahan a rabid partisan unmovable by the Truth.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 17, 2014 11:10 AM (P1WNR)

9 - For the sake of argument let's agree than I'm right ... - That's the starting point for every prog/lib having a discussion w/politics or social policy.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at April 17, 2014 11:10 AM (4CVLy)

10 Sheep? I denounce myself. Posted by: D-Lamp at April 17, 2014 03:06 PM (bb5+k) Ivy League, where men are happy and sheep are nervous?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 17, 2014 11:10 AM (HVff2)

When you've lost Ezra Klein, you've lost...........

Ok, that started out sounding good.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 17, 2014 11:10 AM (ZkzmI)

12 *Former Enron adviser Paul Krugman

Posted by: AMDG at April 17, 2014 11:11 AM (eFytx)

13 Mashable ‏@mashable 35m Flyers urging Jews to "register" in eastern Ukraine likely the work of provocateurs http://on.mash.to/1itNkey pic.twitter.com/8BbhTTDRqd

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 17, 2014 11:11 AM (ZPrif)

14 "Can we just go ahead and say now that all Nobel Prizes outside of the hard, physical sciences are meaningless?" Done!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 17, 2014 11:11 AM (cyxit)

15 WTF?! Shep just reported something about a kid asking Putin whether Obama would save him if he were drowning. Puting responded that he would because "President Obama is a decent and brave man." Yeah. Okay.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 17, 2014 11:12 AM (DmNpO)

16 Obama about to speak

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 17, 2014 11:12 AM (DmNpO)

17 Mad TV once did a send-up of that scene, with Woody trying to save a bunch of schoolgirls captured by Arab terrorists. He ended up bringing out Yasser Arafat to tell the mooks they knew nothing of his work, at which point Arafat capped them in the head.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 17, 2014 11:12 AM (APuJ7)

18 Pretty thorough takedown. He'll probably accuse Kahan of being a conservative.

Posted by: brak at April 17, 2014 11:12 AM (M2qTM)

19 Paul Krugman's "power of reasoning" isn't interesting. What does interest me is height. Specifically, who is shorter, Paul Krugman or Mike Bloomberg?

Posted by: mrp at April 17, 2014 11:13 AM (JBggj)

20 Shep just reported something about a kid asking Putin whether Obama would save him if he were drowning. --- Well if you told me you were drowning I would not lend a hand I've seen your face before my friend But I don't know if you know who I am And I was there and I saw what you did I saw it with my own two eyes So you can wipe off that grin, I know where you've been It's all been a pack o' lies

Posted by: Phil Collins at April 17, 2014 11:13 AM (APuJ7)

21 The guy annoying Woody Allen seems indistinguishable from Woody Allen. Is this intentional?

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 17, 2014 11:14 AM (fOLwM)

22 It's like an endless projection feedback loop.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 17, 2014 11:14 AM (ZkzmI)

23 Ok.... now for the serious question... There is a famous scene, in Annie Hall? You mean... there are enough people who saw it, to make a scene famous? Or... perhaps famous amongst your social group???

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 17, 2014 11:14 AM (84gbM)

24 16 Obama about to speak Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 17, 2014 03:12 PM (DmNpO) No actual content included.

Posted by: joncelli at April 17, 2014 11:14 AM (RD7QR)

25 Yes, but I bet you Kahan isn't making @225,000 merely to show up a couple of times at CUNY to pontificate on income equality. ;^) It's profitable to kiss up to El Presidente.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2014 11:15 AM (XyM/Y)

26 I have this friend who has a degree in mechanical engineering, was a former fighter pilot, and is currently drawing down serious coin designing/programing shit. He once told me that Women are incomprehensible and illogical. I pointed out that their decision making process makes perfect sense, just not from a male perspective. The reason for this is that they have very different motivations and goals from that of a man. Their weighting factors, (for making decisions) and the importance they give them are different from those of a man. It just looks illogical because men have different goals and starting assumptions.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 17, 2014 11:15 AM (bb5+k)

27 If it hasn't been said, this Krugman thing is incredibly racist and sexist. A white man needs to show up 9 months a year for his phoney-baloney no-work job, but a proud black woman like me has to show up for 12 months for my phoney-baloney no-work job. I demand equal time off for equal no-work!

Posted by: Mooch at April 17, 2014 11:15 AM (7pOq5)

28 Awesomesauce. (At the hairdresser, hence the tinfoil)

Posted by: Y-not on the phone wearing tinfoil at April 17, 2014 11:16 AM (43C0x)

29 Obama about to speak.. Speak, Obama , speak, and we'll give you a little doggie treat.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2014 11:16 AM (XyM/Y)

30 16 Obama about to speak read a teleprompter.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 17, 2014 03:12 PM (DmNpO)

Fixed for accuracy.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 17, 2014 11:16 AM (DrWcr)

31 BREAKING NEWS ; Obama declares Eastern Ukraine has always beena part of Russia, under his new flexibility with respect to Russia.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 17, 2014 11:16 AM (P1WNR)

32 Tangentially related... This reminds me of the Left's treatment of Ayaan Hirsi Ali. Here is a Somalian born, African American woman who is a pro-choice atheist and victim of female genital mutilation. Could she have any more moral authority from a leftist perspective? And yet...they all claim "Well, she can't *really* think that. Clearly her experience with Islamic abuse are just some right wing conspiracy!" When faced with the truth, they respond with "SHUT UP!"

Posted by: Lauren at April 17, 2014 11:16 AM (hFL/3)

33 Posted by: Romeo13 at April 17, 2014 03:14 PM (84gbM)

As Woody Allen movies go, it isn't bad.

[read what I wrote carefully....]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 17, 2014 11:16 AM (QFxY5)

34 Dammit, used the wrong tags. Oh well, you get the idea...

Posted by: Insomniac at April 17, 2014 11:17 AM (DrWcr)

35 Sounds like The Krugster thought Kahan was just another one of "our crowd" who would roll over and back him up just because of his Nobel prize winning awesomeness.

Posted by: tu3031 at April 17, 2014 11:17 AM (yv+63)

36 Posted by: D-Lamp at April 17, 2014 03:06 PM (bb5+k) Ivy League, where men are happy and sheep are nervous? Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 17, 2014 03:10 PM (HVff2) You heard the one about Muslims having invented the condom by using a sheep's intestine? The British improved the design by removing it from the sheep.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 17, 2014 11:17 AM (bb5+k)

37 5 Can we just go ahead and say now that all Nobel Prizes outside of the hard, physical sciences are meaningless? Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 17, 2014 03:08 PM (rt3TY) Rigoberto Menstrual, Yasser Arafat, Le Duc Tho and Al Gore are unavailable for comment because we're all racists.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2014 11:18 AM (CMkNk)

38 Paris Hilton-like!

I laughed. but then I realized that at least Paris has rarely been caught trying to be more intelligent than she really is. She is quite comfortable in her own skin and stays true to her craft (being a skanky, privileged skank). Paul, on the other hand, pretends (maybe DEMANDS) to be an intellectual of the highest order, although he too is just a skanky, privileged skank.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at April 17, 2014 11:18 AM (ndlFj)

39 Hi, OT: Has anyone had any experience with- Activeris Antimalware ? The Mrs downloaded it to scan the home computer(yes, I know), but now to clean the infections it says we have she has to register for it. So, she called me at work and wants to know about it. I can't find much online. Can any computer literate morons give me the 411?

Posted by: naturalfake at April 17, 2014 11:18 AM (0cMkb)

40 PROGS R SMARTER!!!!!! The science is settled, bitchez!!!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 17, 2014 11:18 AM (8ZskC)

41 WTF?!
Shep just reported something about a kid asking Putin whether Obama would save him if he were drowning. Puting responded that he would because "President Obama is a decent and brave man."
Yeah.
Okay.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 17, 2014 03:12 PM (DmNpO)

Putin is pretty sharp. The kid's question was obviously a setup to get Vlad to say something racist. I'm not gonna say what it was, but I denounce myself for thinking it.

Posted by: mugiwara at April 17, 2014 11:18 AM (W7ffl)

42 BREAKING NEWS : Obama late to his own press conference.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 17, 2014 11:18 AM (P1WNR)

43 I wonder how this cultural cognition theory plays out with regard to marksmanship?

Posted by: Jaws at April 17, 2014 11:18 AM (eKZp1)

44 33 Posted by: Romeo13 at April 17, 2014 03:14 PM (84gbM) As Woody Allen movies go, it isn't bad. [read what I wrote carefully....] --- Bananas and Sleeper are classics. The rest of them can be very uneven.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 17, 2014 11:19 AM (APuJ7)

45 2 minute warning.

LOL.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 17, 2014 11:19 AM (P1WNR)

46 With my permission, the Russians begin bombing in five minutes.

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 17, 2014 11:19 AM (Aif/5)

47 Ah, this is the kind of FEEL GOOD story that makes my day so much better. Any opportunity to laugh at the deformed gnome is one to be cherished!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 17, 2014 11:19 AM (4df7R)

48 21 The guy annoying Woody Allen seems indistinguishable from Woody Allen. Is this intentional? Posted by: Waterhouse at April 17, 2014 03:14 PM (fOLwM) That's like saying Inspector Holden and Inspector Deckard are the same variety of Tyrell Corp. replicantÂ… But in Woody's case it's more douchey than douchey.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2014 11:19 AM (CMkNk)

49
Paul KrugmanÂ’s 'Big' New Salary DoesnÂ’t Make Him a Hypocrite, It doesnÂ’t even make him that rich!

MARC TRACY
The New Republic
http://tinyurl.com/nnerrvh

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 17, 2014 11:20 AM (kdS6q)

50 Pant, pant "just keep watching the train..".

Posted by: "Papah" Woody Allen at April 17, 2014 11:20 AM (x60m8)

51 Shep just reported something about a kid asking Putin whether Obama would save him if he were drowning. Puting responded that he would because "President Obama is a decent and brave man." Yeah. Okay. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 17, 2014 03:12 PM (DmNpO) So Putin is a pretty good schmoozer too. "Diplomacy": The Art of saying "Nice doggy, Nice doggy" while you look for a rock.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 17, 2014 11:20 AM (bb5+k)

52 I may be overstating it but I think the lefts self-perception as basically infallible in whatever conclusions they happen to collectively hold at any given moment is the single largest barrier to political dialogue out there. It's like trying to debate religion with the Pope.

Posted by: BS Inc at April 17, 2014 11:20 AM (lvxsr)

53 40 PROGS R SMARTER!!!!!! The science is settled, bitchez!!! Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 17, 2014 03:18 PM (8ZskC) Proglodytes Â™ SeftonCorp 2014

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2014 11:20 AM (CMkNk)

54 About 90+% of Krugman's and Friedman's columns are Pro Obama Economic Policy--and that about sums it up.

Posted by: tasker at April 17, 2014 11:20 AM (RJMhd)

55 42 BREAKING NEWS : Obama late to his own press conference. Posted by: Dr Spank at April 17, 2014 03:18 PM (P1WNR) I'm putting a lincoln on 10 minutes late.

Posted by: joncelli at April 17, 2014 11:21 AM (RD7QR)

56 think, reason, and decide according to the patterns instilled in them by the cultural cohort within which they reside."

Or, "criminals and communists," if you're a lefty.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 17, 2014 11:21 AM (4df7R)

57 "Diplomacy": The Art of saying "Nice doggy, Nice doggy" while you look for a rock. --- I prefer "Diplomacy - The art of saying 'Go to Hell' then getting thanked and asked for directions."

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 17, 2014 11:21 AM (APuJ7)

58 Hey General Mills, bite my ass! You think we can't live without Hamburger Helper and Lucky Charms? http://yhoo.it/RsPkKA

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 17, 2014 11:21 AM (DmNpO)

59 I would jump in the water, drag Putin to shore, and set him on fire.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 17, 2014 11:21 AM (P1WNR)

60 Isn't all this a fancy-ass way of saying Dunning-Kruger effect?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2014 11:21 AM (CMkNk)

61 58 Hey General Mills, bite my ass! You think we can't live without Hamburger Helper and Lucky Charms? http://yhoo.it/RsPkKA Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 17, 2014 03:21 PM (DmNpO) Try helping your burger with Lucky Charms. Feh!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2014 11:22 AM (CMkNk)

62 Oh great, I get to the HQ just in time to be more on time for the Preezy's fucking presser than the Preezy himself? FML.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 17, 2014 11:22 AM (4df7R)

63 Obama asked at press conference, "What do you think about Putin's assertion You are a Brave and Kind man?" Obama, "well of course He is right, I am , what I am, the kindest and most caring man in the universe, Have you seen my pics in the halls and rooms of the WH? they all show that and much more . I'm also the most eloquent man , I also am humble , Also I do Not have big ears. Btw would you shut that idiot right winger up over there! next?"

Posted by: willow at April 17, 2014 11:22 AM (nqBYe)

64 Or replacing Kaboom with Hamburger Helper and milk.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2014 11:23 AM (CMkNk)

65 Ace, are you saving the Kurt Vonnegut scene from Back to School for Krugman's response?

Posted by: Joe at April 17, 2014 11:23 AM (7pOq5)

66 BREAKING NEWS : Obama late to his own press conference. Posted by: Dr Spank at April 17, 2014 03:18 PM (P1WNR) I'm putting a lincoln on 10 minutes late. I'll take $5 on 22 minutes.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2014 11:23 AM (8D0/R)

67 #35 I think nails it. Der Krugs assumed Kahan really meant conservatives are close-minded but was too academic to say it out loud. Krugs, therefore, would say out loud what everybody was thinking. Turns out Krugs only proved what Kahan was saying. Nice.

Posted by: spongeworthy at April 17, 2014 11:23 AM (8Pg2o)

68 44 If you like Russian literature Love and Death is very funny.

Posted by: BS Inc at April 17, 2014 11:23 AM (pm/oS)

69 Does this Krugman gentleman have a newsletter?

Posted by: Zombie Pauline Kael at April 17, 2014 11:23 AM (VndSC)

70 Speaking of Putin-- Friedman had a laugh out loud column title the other day-- Go Ahead, Vladimir, Make My Day.

Posted by: tasker at April 17, 2014 11:24 AM (RJMhd)

71 69 Does this Krugman gentleman have a newsletter? Posted by: Zombie Pauline Kael at April 17, 2014 03:23 PM (VndSC) Runs a website with Allen G., no?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2014 11:24 AM (CMkNk)

72 Krugtron the Lawn Gnome is filling in for the Travelocity Gnome for the entire month of May... how does he get all these sweet gigs???

Posted by: Chi-town Jerry at April 17, 2014 11:24 AM (Z7PrM)

73 Didn't Milton Friedman kick Krugman's ass in a debate or am I just wish-casting a YouTube search?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2014 11:25 AM (CMkNk)

74 Tick tock Mr President.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 17, 2014 11:25 AM (P1WNR)

75 but now to clean the infections it says we have she has to register for it. That's a scam, don't do it. Microsoft Malicious Software Removal tool 100% free: http://preview.tinyurl.com/4q6gc3y Microsoft Security Essentials; Antivirus 100% free: http://preview.tinyurl.com/8ddvtg7

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 17, 2014 11:25 AM (2hTlI)

76 Krugtron the Lawn Gnome is filling in for the Travelocity Gnome for the entire month of May... how does he get all these sweet gigs??? Lack of self esteem?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2014 11:25 AM (8D0/R)

77 BREAKING NEWS : Obama late to his own press conference.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 17, 2014 03:18 PM (P1WNR)

Being on time is racist

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 17, 2014 11:27 AM (1Jaio)

78

My guess is that asshole stole all of the ideas that ade him such a wonderful dude.

He is so goddamn dishonest, it must be.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Christies at April 17, 2014 11:28 AM (xggaJ)

79 Or replacing Kaboom with Hamburger Helper and milk. **** The key to family happiness is a well-organized pantry.

Posted by: Butters 'Stotch at April 17, 2014 11:28 AM (DmNpO)

80 Posted by: bonhomme at April 17, 2014 03:25 PM (2hTlI) MalwareBytes is also very good. I've defeated some nasty bugs with it.

Posted by: AMDG at April 17, 2014 11:29 AM (eFytx)

81 19 Paul Krugman's "power of reasoning" isn't interesting. What does interest me is height. Specifically, who is shorter, Paul Krugman or Mike Bloomberg? Paul Simon. The real question is which of the three farts don't smell?

Posted by: Chaos the Other Dark Meat at April 17, 2014 11:29 AM (oDCMR)

82 Microsoft Security Essentials; Antivirus 100% free: http://preview.tinyurl.com/8ddvtg7 Posted by: bonhomme at April 17, 2014 03:25 PM (2hTlI) Be aware.... XP is having huge problems with the new Security Essentials... You have to find an old stable build...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 17, 2014 11:29 AM (84gbM)

83 Being on time is racist
Posted by: TheQuietMan
............
Noticing he's late is racist! We all know what that is a dog whistle for...

Posted by: Chi-town Jerry at April 17, 2014 11:29 AM (Z7PrM)

84 Obama to talk about Obamacare, and himself.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 17, 2014 11:29 AM (P1WNR)

85 77 BREAKING NEWS : Obama late to his own press conference. _____ They need to stop punking him by putting those mirrors in the green room.

Posted by: Roy at April 17, 2014 11:29 AM (VndSC)

86 At least Paris Hilton adds a limited amount of value justifying her continued existence.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Snow! AHHHHHHHH! at April 17, 2014 11:29 AM (hLRSq)

87 23 Ok.... now for the serious question...

There is a famous scene, in Annie Hall?

You mean... there are enough people who saw it, to make a scene famous?

Or... perhaps famous amongst your social group???

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 17, 2014 03:14 PM (84gbM)

++++

From Wikipedia:
Annie Hall was screened at the Los Angeles Film Festival in March 1977, before its official release on 20 April 1977. The film received widespread critical acclaim, and along with winning the Academy Award for Best Picture, it received Oscars in three other categories: two for Allen (Best Director and, with Brickman, Best Original Screenplay), and Keaton for Best Actress. The film additionally won four BAFTA awards and a Golden Globe, the latter being awarded to Keaton. Its North American box office receipts of $38,251,425 are fourth-best in the director's oeuvre when not adjusted for inflation. Often listed among the greatest film comedies, it ranks 31st on AFI's list of the top feature films in American cinema, fourth on their list of top comedy films and number 28 on Bravo's "100 Funniest Movies." Film critic Roger Ebert called it "just about everyone's favorite Woody Allen movie".

Whatever you may think about Woody Allen and/or his films, there is little doubt that his films have been widely seen.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 17, 2014 11:29 AM (IN7k+)

88 Specifically, who is shorter, Paul Krugman or Mike Bloomberg?

Paul Simon.

The real question is which of the three farts don't smell?

Posted by: Chaos the Other Dark Meat at April 17, 2014 03:29 PM (oDCMR)

Which of these three doesn't fart into a cognac glass and then inhale the fumes deeply?

Posted by: Insomniac at April 17, 2014 11:30 AM (DrWcr)

89 Politico's big expose today was that conservative think tanks and activist organizations often advertise on talk radio and ... wait for it ... the hosts views are often line with the conservative groups! Shocker!! OMG! Heritage runs ads on Hannity!!! Corruption!!111!! FreedomWorks partners with Beck!!! Ack! Mark R. Levin ‏@marklevinshow Breitbart: So what? http://fb.me/24mjBeY8b

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 17, 2014 11:30 AM (ZPrif)

90 Be aware.... XP is having huge problems with the new Security Essentials... You have to find an old stable build... Posted by: Romeo13 at April 17, 2014 03:29 PM (84gbM) The computer is running XP. Any suggestions?

Posted by: naturalfake at April 17, 2014 11:30 AM (0cMkb)

91 That bastard Krugman, I'll bet he stole my dick.

Posted by: Shorty Johnson at April 17, 2014 11:31 AM (xWW96)

92 So Woody is doing Krugman too? Just wow!

Posted by: anchovy at April 17, 2014 11:31 AM (MNxW+)

93 There's that piece at the bottom where he links to "How to get a liberal to question global warming."

And . . . the guy does the same thing: Libruls R Being Much Full of Science Believing in the Global Warmings. Cons are teh dumbs.

I mean, totally missing the "hey, maybe there are real scientific reasons conservatives could have for NOT believing in global warming."

No, he just raffs at the dumb conservatives for believing a fake science paper.

Even though the fake science paper is exactly what most of us keep saying about the scam: "We'll believe it's a crisis when you fucking lying bastards start acting like it's a crisis."

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 17, 2014 11:31 AM (VjL9S)

94 Here's my "motivated reasoning" Krugman is a sham and still a crook<----Incompetent Enron advisor and crook<----Born of the Jackal.

Posted by: End Times at April 17, 2014 11:32 AM (thLL8)

Specifically, who is shorter, Paul Krugman or Mike Bloomberg? Paul Simon.

Any reason for lumping Paul Simon in with these idiots? Assuming musician. The late floppy eared bastard from Illinois Paul Simon wasn't short.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 17, 2014 11:33 AM (JtwS4)

96 Krugman gets pwn3d? So, that means this day ends in a "Y".

Posted by: Roy at April 17, 2014 11:33 AM (VndSC)

97 Robert Reich. seriously small

Posted by: thunderb also dickless rapper at April 17, 2014 11:33 AM (zOTsN)

98 Any reason for lumping Paul Simon in with these idiots? Assuming musician. The late floppy eared bastard from Illinois Paul Simon wasn't short. --- Because Paul Simon looks like a fucking Muppet.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 17, 2014 11:34 AM (APuJ7)

99 Here's my "motivated reasoning" Krugman is a sham and still a crook Posted by: End -------------------- Can't be, because Nobel Prize. Wait....

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 17, 2014 11:34 AM (aDwsi)

100 97Robert Reich. seriously small

Posted by: thunderb also dickless rapper at April 17, 2014 03:33 PM (zOTsN)

He have a lot in common wit my dick.

Posted by: Shorty Johnson at April 17, 2014 11:34 AM (xWW96)

101 Obama is 20 minutes late.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 17, 2014 11:34 AM (P1WNR)

102 I mean, totally missing the "hey, maybe there are real scientific reasons conservatives could have for NOT believing in global warming." I actually did believe in Global Warming until I started reading up on the chicanery involved in it, and the movement devoted to dispossessing technology which has latched on to it.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 17, 2014 11:34 AM (Qh0T+)

103 He's going to talk about Obamacare. So. You know. Priorities.

Posted by: Butters 'Stotch at April 17, 2014 11:35 AM (DmNpO)

104 I fucking love this blog.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 17, 2014 11:35 AM (TM1p8)

105 He's always late because his damn staffers refuse to let him be clear.

Posted by: Lauren at April 17, 2014 11:35 AM (hFL/3)

106 Robert Reich, 4'11"

Posted by: thunderb also dickless rapper at April 17, 2014 11:36 AM (zOTsN)

107 Robert Reich. seriously small I saw him on a talk show a year or so ago and I swear they had him propped up on his chair with a couple of old phone books. He looked like a little troll at the table.

Posted by: End Times at April 17, 2014 11:36 AM (thLL8)

108 The computer is running XP. Any suggestions? Posted by: naturalfake at April 17, 2014 03:30 PM (0cMkb) AVG free is OK.... but does use quite a few CPU cycles to run... Best bet is Antimalwarebytes anti malware... Free... and only runs when you want it to run. We expect Microsoft to have a fix for security essentials in the next couple of days, as they were supposed to be supporting Sec Ess for XP until July 2015... but it looks like someone did not get the memo...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 17, 2014 11:36 AM (84gbM)

109 I can't bear to look. Has King Barakticus I deigned to bestow his presence upon us yet?

Posted by: joncelli at April 17, 2014 11:36 AM (RD7QR)

110 off sock

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 17, 2014 11:36 AM (DmNpO)

111 I found this line to be almost as funny ...

Media Matters for America is apparently resisting an effort by Service Employees International Union Local 500 to unionize its staff.

Posted by: If It Walks Like A Terrier at April 17, 2014 11:36 AM (e8kgV)

112

Again, I'll concede to Krugman's point that we on the Right are not as smart as the Left if he could convince the rest of his tribe to allow the peaceful physical split of the US into two sovereign nations. This would release them from the burden of having to put up with us.

But you know what, they would never agree to this in a million years because they know they would collapse into chaos and misery just like every other socialist based country / government whereas the majority of the people on the Right would welcome the split.

Posted by: polynikes at April 17, 2014 11:36 AM (m2CN7)

113 Bloomberg says he is 5'8. He lies

Posted by: thunderb also dickless rapper at April 17, 2014 11:36 AM (zOTsN)

114 Obama is 20 minutes late.

Which is early for him.

Posted by: HR at April 17, 2014 11:36 AM (ZKzrr)

115 It would be breaking news if the Shithead in Chief were on time for once. I can't recall an occasion that he made on time.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 17, 2014 11:37 AM (ojnk6)

116 Robert Reich is the newest president of the Lollypop Guild.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 17, 2014 11:37 AM (ZkzmI)

117 WSJ Live ‏@WSJLive 9m Scientists in the U.S. have cloned two older people Â– one aged 35, the other 75 Â– into early-stage embryos: http://on.wsj.com/1j8GF7m

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 17, 2014 11:37 AM (DmNpO)

118 CNN should spend the rest of the day trying to locate the president.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 17, 2014 11:37 AM (P1WNR)

119 The computer is running XP. Any suggestions? AVG or Avast? Honestly, you'd do well to upgrade to Win7.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 17, 2014 11:37 AM (2hTlI)

120 Well, he's not completely stupid if he can manage to get them to pay him that kind of money for his brand of "thinking".

Of course there's kids on South State Street who are as good or better than he is at conning people.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 17, 2014 11:37 AM (JS0vr)

121 Krugman, 5'7". He lies

Posted by: thunderb also dickless rapper at April 17, 2014 11:37 AM (zOTsN)

122 The LIV and Medium Information Voter's response: "Who's Paul Krugman? Who cares? I've got to try to get more hours at work to pay for my increased premiums thanks to Obamacare. The election's in November, right?"

Posted by: Naes1984 at April 17, 2014 11:38 AM (LiHKo)

123 But you know what, they would never agree to this in a million years because they know they would collapse into chaos and misery just like every other socialist based country / government whereas the majority of the people on the Right would welcome the split. --- Ever read "Restaurant At The End Of The Universe"? Liberals = Golgafrinchans

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 17, 2014 11:38 AM (APuJ7)

124 Paul Simon, a wee 5'3"

Posted by: thunderb also dickless rapper at April 17, 2014 11:38 AM (zOTsN)

125 I remember seeing the same thing when I read The Paranoid Style in American Politics by Richard Hofstader. A brief mention that the "Paranoid Style" appears on the Left and then the rest of the book was all Nutty Right All the Time.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 17, 2014 11:38 AM (oFCZn)

126 CNN should spend the rest of the day trying to locate the president.

Not our fault this time. We don't want him, either.

Posted by: Zklpxk at April 17, 2014 11:38 AM (ZKzrr)

127 Reich toddles off with the "win"

Posted by: thunderb also dickless rapper at April 17, 2014 11:38 AM (zOTsN)

128 117 WSJ Live Ã¢Â€Â@WSJLive 9m Scientists in the U.S. have cloned two older people Ã¯Â¿Â½ one aged 35, the other 75 Ã¯Â¿Â½ into early-stage embryos: http://on.wsj.com/1j8GF7m --- Is Hairy Reed cloning a younger version of himself to molest?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 17, 2014 11:38 AM (APuJ7)

129 I believe in climate change. I don't believe in any significant man made climate change.

Posted by: polynikes at April 17, 2014 11:39 AM (m2CN7)

130 CNN BREAKING NEWS ; We have located the president off the coast of Australia.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 17, 2014 11:39 AM (P1WNR)

131 Any reason for lumping Paul Simon in with these idiots? Assuming musician. --------------------- In case you have forgotten: http://tinyurl.com/owwjcqh

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 17, 2014 11:39 AM (aDwsi)

132 CNN should spend the rest of the day trying to locate the president. BREAKING: A ping has been detected coming from the fairway on the 12th hole.

Posted by: CNN at April 17, 2014 11:39 AM (8ZskC)

133 I'd rather punch him ala Buzz Aldrin.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at April 17, 2014 11:39 AM (DL2i+)

134 118CNN should spend the rest of the day trying to locate the president.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 17, 2014 03:37 PM (P1WNR)

Speakin' 'o' dat, can CNN locate my dick? Jus haddit a while back.....

Posted by: Shorty Johnson at April 17, 2014 11:39 AM (xWW96)

135 Posted by: RoyalOil at April 17, 2014 03:31 PM (VjL9S) I can actually explain, with citations, why CO2, while it is a Greenhouse gas, has met its maximum effect on the atmosphere on Earth... When I explain this to Libs... even Libs with a scientific background.... they tell me... well... its complicated and the scientists say its happening .... so.... For the Left? Credentialism Trumps Understanding or Fact.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 17, 2014 11:39 AM (84gbM)

136

Kahan's a professor of law at Yale who writes a lot about "cultural cognition," which is just the idea that individual people will tend to think, reason, and decide according to the patterns instilled in them by the cultural cohort within which they reside.

We have a good old time in Hordeistan mocking the left. And if we read comments on their sites we think they're idiots. A guy at lunch today said "have you ever seen that Rachel Maddow show? I can't stand her". Well, no, and we can't either. But she has fans and rabid adherents who are sure that we're the idiots.

I don't know what can be done about it, but we have become two Americas who not only have fundamental differences in outlook, but who don't talk or listen to each other anymore.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 17, 2014 11:40 AM (JtwS4)

137 BREAKING............ We think we've heard Pinging from Obama's Black Box.....

Posted by: CNN at April 17, 2014 11:40 AM (32Ze2)

138 Also, don't ever forget that there is an actual, scientific study that shows that Krug is nearly twice as likely to change his positions solely in reference to who the President is at the time.

Over and over and over again he has praised the actions of a Democrat President while having condemned those same acts under a Republican.

The guy is a fucking fraud from top to bottom.

The most interesting study would be: Which Nobel Prize winner has parlayed their award into the most subsequent money without ever doing any further significant work in that field?

After the JEF, I would say the Krugs has 2nd place far and away.

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 17, 2014 11:40 AM (VjL9S)

139 Bingle TigerDirect refurbished. You can get a nice Win7 setup with 8GB RAM and 1TB hard drive for under $300.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 17, 2014 11:41 AM (2hTlI)

140 I thought it was illegal to clone humans not organs, but humans

Posted by: thunderb also dickless rapper at April 17, 2014 11:41 AM (zOTsN)

141 Hey, Thornton Melon's check cleared, so I don't give a shit what his English teacher says.

Posted by: Zombie Kurt Vonnegut at April 17, 2014 11:41 AM (TIIx5)

142

Well, well, well, dems cheating shocker:

A wealthy hotel executive and Democratic fundraiser who supported Hilary Clinton for president pleaded guilty Thursday to charges he secretly funneled more than $180,000 in illegal campaign contributions to three unnamed candidates and coached someone to lie about it.

An informant caught Sant Singh Chatwal on tape in 2010 explaining that he believed his illegal fundraising bought him access to people in power.

PS - that is AP report that spelled Hillary wrong.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 17, 2014 11:41 AM (hUf/y)

143 Those that placed there money on 26 minutes late. Please go to the cashiers window and collect your winnings

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 17, 2014 11:41 AM (tf9Ne)

144 It's speaking.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 17, 2014 11:41 AM (P1WNR)

145 Posted by: Romeo13 at April 17, 2014 03:36 PM (84gbM) Thanks.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 17, 2014 11:41 AM (0cMkb)

146 Shodda had a black box on my dick. Then I could ping it.....

Posted by: Shorty Johnson at April 17, 2014 11:41 AM (xWW96)

147 Obama is about to announce that he has reached an agreement with Russia. He is going to blow Putin AND kiss his ass.

Posted by: Sandy Fluke at April 17, 2014 11:42 AM (3rrMW)

148 This post was like eating chocolate letters. Chocolate letters strung into chocolate words. Chocolate covered chocolate words formed into melted chocolate fondue sentences. Shall we swim?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 17, 2014 11:42 AM (IXrOn)

149 95 Specifically, who is shorter, Paul Krugman or Mike Bloomberg? Paul Simon. Any reason for lumping Paul Simon in with these idiots? Assuming musician. The late floppy eared bastard from Illinois Paul Simon wasn't short. Paul Simon the musician. Paul Simon the Ill Dem was just creepy.

Posted by: Chaos the Other Dark Meat at April 17, 2014 11:42 AM (oDCMR)

150

I had an epiphany last night. I realized the primary reason liberal politicians are so enamored with public transit and trains. It isn't about shepherding people into easily managed parcels of real estate.

It is about the kickbacks they receive from the developers. They don't even believe the lies they spew, they just want some cash.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 17, 2014 11:42 AM (ZkzmI)

151 Let me be clear.

Posted by: Barky O'Genius at April 17, 2014 11:43 AM (8ZskC)

152 42 BREAKING NEWS : Obama late to his own press conference. Posted by: Dr Spank at April 17, 2014 03:18 PM (P1WNR) Whoa. Never thought I'd live to see this.

Posted by: joncelli at April 17, 2014 11:43 AM (RD7QR)

153

>>Obama about to speak

...

Mute TV and cue Looney Tunes sound track loop.

Posted by: wth at April 17, 2014 11:43 AM (wAQA5)

154 "140 I thought it was illegal to clone humanss" I believe only reproductive cloning is illegal.

Posted by: Lauren at April 17, 2014 11:43 AM (hFL/3)

155 Any chance Obama will announce a 'Reset' with Russia?

Posted by: Chaos the Other Dark Meat at April 17, 2014 11:43 AM (oDCMR)

156 BREAKING............ We think we've heard Pinging from Obama's Black Box..... Mooch hasn't pinged in years......

Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2014 11:43 AM (8D0/R)

157 Wow--holy statistics manipulation Batman!

Posted by: tasker at April 17, 2014 11:43 AM (RJMhd)

158 143 crap Their money

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 17, 2014 11:43 AM (tf9Ne)

159 Panopticon marches on. -- Creepy autonomous AI CCTV surveillance network watches all of Boston http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/17/ creepy-autonomous-surveillance-network-watches-all-of-boston/ via @dailycaller

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 17, 2014 11:43 AM (ZPrif)

160 "It is about the kickbacks they receive from the developers. They don't even believe the lies they spew, they just want some cash." Watch Hell on Wheels.

Posted by: Lauren at April 17, 2014 11:44 AM (hFL/3)

161 Off dickless sock

Posted by: maddogg at April 17, 2014 11:44 AM (xWW96)

162 Robert Reich 4'11" Paul Simon 5'3" Paul Krugman 5'7" Michael Bloomberg 5'8" BTW I think the last two are lying

Posted by: thunderb also dickless rapper at April 17, 2014 11:44 AM (zOTsN)

163 Can't you assholes shut-up for just one minute and let the man be clear already?!?

Posted by: mugiwara at April 17, 2014 11:44 AM (W7ffl)

164 i put up an oblahblah open thread

Posted by: ace at April 17, 2014 11:44 AM (/FnUH)

165 But what comes next is an even more subtle -- and thus an even more spectacular! -- illustration of what it looks like when one's reason is deformed by tribalism: I could picture Kroog-man crouched at home, twirling the bone in his nose, and picking occasionally at his ears while he wrote his dia-tribe.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 17, 2014 11:45 AM (IXrOn)

166 I hope like hell our new 'reset' with Russia doesn't require John Kerry to be involved.

Posted by: Chaos the Other Dark Meat at April 17, 2014 11:45 AM (oDCMR)

167 Those that placed there money on 26 minutes late. Please go to the cashiers window and collect your winnings Crap. So close at 22 min late!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2014 11:45 AM (8D0/R)

168 Whoa. Never thought I'd live to see this. Posted by: joncelli at April 17, 2014 03:43 PM (RD7QR) Actually I was talking about the cloning thing and pasted the wrong text. But this works too.

Posted by: joncelli at April 17, 2014 11:45 AM (RD7QR)

169 Posted by: bonhomme at April 17, 2014 03:41 PM (2hTlI) We'll probably upgrade later this summer. But that's not an option right now as money is tight.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 17, 2014 11:45 AM (0cMkb)

170 Holy shit--the "deadline" to sign up just passed--and now they are making all these claims!? Obama:"This thing is working!"

Posted by: tasker at April 17, 2014 11:45 AM (RJMhd)

171 Added this today to Urban Dictionary. I only mention this because I intend to inject the phrase into conversation, here, and elsewhere. I'm dubious that the UD will accept it, but we shall see: Nodding Donkeys - A disapprobation applied to the 'Yes-persons' surrounding a totalitarian leader. Etymology of the phrase - Although it is commonly believed that the phrase evolved as a critical reference to members of the Democratic Party (given that the Donkey is the symbol of the Democratic Party), and more particularly to the members of President Obama's administration, that is not so. In point of fact, the phrase was coined by Albert Speer, the Minister of Armaments and War Production for the Third Reich. Speer was Adolf Hitler's chief architect before assuming ministerial office. Speer was contemptuous of those who surrounded Hitler (Goebbels, von Ribbentrop, Himmler, et al) because of their servile obsequiousness, and referred to them as 'Nodding Donkeys'. Some have protested that the usage of the phrase in reference to members of the Obama administration and Democratic Party merely serves to confirm Godwin's Law. However, there seems to be no marked contrast between the fellow-traveling sycophancy of the members of the Democratic Party and the Obama administration, and that demonstrated by Hitler's underlings. The Donkey symbol of the Democratic Party only serves to lend irony to the usage.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 17, 2014 11:45 AM (aDwsi)

172 Well, today was good news and bad news for me.

Good news: I got a $1240/yr raise.

Bad news: That only works out to a net increase of $32 a paycheck.

Gee, thanks Obama!

Posted by: Country Singer at April 17, 2014 11:45 AM (L8r/r)

173 Creepy autonomous AI CCTV surveillance network watches all of Boston http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/17/ creepy-autonomous-surveillance-network-watches-all-of-boston/ via @dailycaller Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 17, 2014 03:43 PM (ZPrif) And you thought this was just a show....

Posted by: Person of Interest at April 17, 2014 11:45 AM (84gbM)

174 BREAKING............ We think we've heard Pinging from Obama's Black Box (_O_)

Posted by: Reg at April 17, 2014 11:46 AM (thLL8)

175 I may be overstating it but I think the lefts self-perception as basically infallible in whatever conclusions they happen to collectively hold at any given moment is the single largest barrier to political dialogue out there. It's like trying to debate religion with the Pope.

It's not just that they do it. It's that they all do it. And they all do it because they HAVE to do it to cope with the subconscious reality that they couldn't survive without being parasites.

My apologies to Mel Brooks.

Posted by: grognard at April 17, 2014 11:46 AM (/29Nl)

176 I don't know what can be done about it, but we have become two Americas who not only have fundamental differences in outlook, but who don't talk or listen to each other anymore. Here's the difference: I do not advocate policies that have never worked, are not grounded in solid reasoning, or that put the foundational reasoning of the Republic at risk. Examples: Collectivized anything, "reasoning" with a Russian about international law, expecting a speech to solve something.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 17, 2014 11:46 AM (659DL)

177 Mute TV and cue Looney Tunes sound track loop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejIk_Za-q4Y

Posted by: HR at April 17, 2014 11:46 AM (ZKzrr)

178 I can actually explain, with citations, why CO2, while it is a Greenhouse gas, has met its maximum effect on the atmosphere on Earth...

When I explain this to Libs... even Libs with a scientific background.... they tell me... well... its complicated and the scientists say its happening .... so....

For the Left? Credentialism Trumps Understanding or Fact.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 17, 2014 03:39 PM (84gbM)

=============

There is study after study after study that shows that increased CO2 leads to bigger plants, that grow faster, that use less water and produce larger fruit.

But you never, ever, ever hear there is a huge benefit to global warming--one that would dwarf any negatives they keep lying about.

That's without counting the millions of acres that will become available for farming in the northern areas if the world would actually warm up.

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 17, 2014 11:46 AM (VjL9S)

179 162 Robert Reich 4'11" Paul Simon 5'3" Paul Krugman 5'7" Michael Bloomberg 5'8" BTW I think the last two are lying What about that really short Congressman from Ohio that looked like a Keebler Elf? And oddly ended up with a hot Ginger.

Posted by: Chaos the Other Dark Meat at April 17, 2014 11:47 AM (oDCMR)

180 Shoosh, I am still waiting for the Smarterer Progs to explain how CO2 holds heat. Been waiting awhile.

Posted by: Chaos the Other Dark Meat at April 17, 2014 11:48 AM (oDCMR)

181 And oddly ended up with a hot Ginger. Kucinich (sp) ?

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 17, 2014 11:49 AM (thLL8)

182 If you were bored enough to create a bookshelf filled with books that are basically complete fucking bullshit, the perfect bookends for that shelf would be Paul Krugman and Barack Obama's respective Nobel Prizes.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 17, 2014 11:49 AM (TM1p8)

183

You silly man. You skipped over the factor in my analysis.

I Am Paul Krugman

Posted by: Paul Krugman at April 17, 2014 11:49 AM (SO2Q8)

184 You run into lefties all the time who believe that the Left is "smarter" and better at reasoning than the Right. They lament the fact that politicians "have to" lie because of all of those conservative Neanderthals out there who believe righty-wingy nonsense. I commiserate with them and then suggest that we really should have a basic voting test. Perhaps some very simple algebra or logic problems, or at least 6th grade math. Perhaps some kind of IQ test. That would take care of the stupid wingnuts, right? Heh. What do you suppose the effect of such a test would have on elections?!? There is a supreme irony here.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 17, 2014 11:51 AM (dfYL9)

185 Boundaries of bulging bookshelves of bullshit. Loves me some alliteration.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 17, 2014 11:51 AM (aDwsi)

186

Two good longer-form posts back to back makes for a good afternoon.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at April 17, 2014 11:52 AM (dF04M)

187

I commiserate with them and then suggest that we really should have a basic voting test. Perhaps some very simple algebra or logic problems, or at least 6th grade math. Perhaps some kind of IQ test. That would take care of the stupid wingnuts, right?

---

The democrats. The only party to publicly proclaim that their own base is too stupid to vote correctly.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 17, 2014 11:53 AM (ZkzmI)

188 Obama (and the world) reap the the fruits of idiotic mumbling about flexibility.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 17, 2014 11:53 AM (aDwsi)

189 glorious stuff.

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 17, 2014 11:54 AM (DTVYh)

190 Hey General Mills, bite my ass! You think we can't live without Hamburger Helper and Lucky Charms? http://yhoo.it/RsPkKA Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 17, 2014 03:21 PM (DmNpO) Time for a class action lawsuit...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 17, 2014 11:55 AM (IXrOn)

191

Robert Reich

---

Little known facts,

his real first name is Tyrion

You should never play 'got you nose' with him

yeah, he has to pay for it

Posted by: Lord Varys at April 17, 2014 11:55 AM (SO2Q8)

192 Paul Krugman made us RICH! I tell you RICH!

Posted by: Enron Corp. at April 17, 2014 11:56 AM (0FSuD)

193 The Institute for the Perpetually Pissed pays Krugman for his knowledge of Economics, former Malaysian dictators, and Enron executives, not for his logic skills.

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at April 17, 2014 11:56 AM (XrGnJ)

194 187 --- My point exactly. THEY would never win another election.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 17, 2014 11:57 AM (dfYL9)

195 >>Robert Reich. seriously small Posted by: thunderb What's his gig these days? Baking cookies in a hollow tree somewhere?

Posted by: Aviator at April 17, 2014 11:58 AM (3rrMW)

196 That was funny. Krugman must be fizzing with rage.

Posted by: Pigilito at April 17, 2014 11:58 AM (AW99N)

197 Two good longer-form posts back to back makes for a good afternoon.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at April 17, 2014 03:52 PM (dF04M)

True, but "Actually working for a living? How does that fucking work?"

How the Hell am I supposed to get anything done here?

Posted by: Sharkman at April 17, 2014 11:59 AM (TM1p8)

198 That Woody Allen clip is one of my favorites!

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 17, 2014 11:59 AM (0FSuD)

199 This needs to happen more. People of authority need to come forth and say that Obama, Krugman, Holder, etc not only have no idea what they are talking about, but that they are completely wrong.

Being laughed at will hurt them more than anything other than actual violence (which I do not condone).

Nothing would deflate President Narcissus faster and more completely than a very loud, very public rhetorical whuppin'

Posted by: acethepug at April 17, 2014 12:05 PM (Ue2Yo)

200 I'm smart! Not like everybody says! Like, dumb! I'm smart and I want respect!"

Posted by: Paul "Fredo" Krugman at April 17, 2014 12:08 PM (++HCY)

201 Mike Hammer: I call your Blockheads Bookending Bulging Bookcases of Blatantly Boring Bullshit, and raise you one Neanderthalish 'Now-Nothin' Nattering Nabobs of Negativity Nixing New 'Nowledge!

Posted by: Sharkman at April 17, 2014 12:08 PM (TM1p8)

202 re: General Mills

If they aren't confident enough to stand behind their products without this legal bullshit, then I'm not confident enough to trust their products.

Fuck. Them.

Posted by: grognard at April 17, 2014 12:11 PM (/29Nl)

203 I love this so much. Has Krugman responded in any way to this? And very nice job pointing out the Annie Hall parallel.

Posted by: dan-O at April 17, 2014 12:36 PM (D0bIN)

204 The New York Post reported that A.J. Mass worked as the team's mascot from 1994 to 1997. He recalls in his memoir, "Yes, ItÂ’s Hot in Here: Adventures in the Weird, Woolly World of Sports Mascots," Jackie Robinson's 50th anniversary at Shea Stadium, which was attended by Clinton in 1997.

He writes that the agent told him that they have snipers around the stadium. Mass recalls the agent saying, "Like I said, do whatever it is you normally do. Nobody will bother you. But approach the president, and we go for the kill shot. Are we clear?" The agent repeated the line twice, Mass writes.

Posted by: If It Walks Like A Baseball at April 17, 2014 12:52 PM (e8kgV)

205 I've said this a million times, on this very site:

Liberals do not believe that there are such things as "opinions." There are facts and there are falsehoods, and all their world-views are based on their "facts."

So to argue against Liberalism is to argue against "facts." And who can argue against "facts"? Only benighted fools. And who argues with fools?

That's why Liberals become so enraged when people disagree with them--according to the Liberal, the opposer is either lying or stupid.

That's also why Liberals see absolutely nothing wrong whatsoever to using power to crush conservative opinions. After all, they "reason," if you found out your child's math teacher was teaching 2 + 2= 5, you would fight so he could no longer teach such lies, right? That's exactly what Liberals believe they are doing, and why they fight so hard against any ideas that aren't "Liberal."

Liberalism is a form of mental disease. They themselves prove this every single day.

Posted by: Null at April 17, 2014 01:11 PM (xjpRj)

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Is there any particular reason the SCOAMF is perpetually late for his own press conferences? It's not as if he's got something better to do. He doesn't have to worry about rush hour traffic does he?

I sure this isn't like that Viagra commercial where the couple slip in late at the opera. Blech!

Posted by: Northernlurker at April 17, 2014 01:17 PM (Xmw9g)

207 When so much stupid shit comes out of my alma mater, it is a pleasant surprise to this Yale man when someone there humiliates Krugman so handily.

Posted by: peej at April 17, 2014 02:12 PM (/2UVF)

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