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March 12, 2010

Pelosi Claims Just Four Votes Shy
— Ace

And she claims she was seven votes down yesterday.

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Posted by: Ace at 09:16 AM | Comments (183)
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1 Ain't it fun to hope Dems will control themselves?

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 12, 2010 09:17 AM (dQdrY)

Um... Pelosi's lying.

Posted by: Damn Skippy at March 12, 2010 09:17 AM (VDgKF)

3
This does not compute.

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at March 12, 2010 09:18 AM (ucq49)

4 They can keep pushing until they get it, then we're stuck with it. We can move the lever back and forth, but the ratchet means the screw only turns in one direction.

Posted by: Abdominal Snowman at March 12, 2010 09:19 AM (gXQt/)

it is as good as passed. She will get 4 votes.

Posted by: Ben at March 12, 2010 09:19 AM (wuv1c)

6 I thought she was saying the other day that she had the votes. Now she says she doesn't.

Posted by: nickless at March 12, 2010 09:20 AM (MMC8r)

7 Didn't she say she had the votes last week?

Posted by: taylork at March 12, 2010 09:21 AM (0Hn5w)

8 Palomino!

Posted by: Pony Boy at March 12, 2010 09:21 AM (4Kl5M)

9 Rahm must have been doing double duty patrolling the showers.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 12, 2010 09:21 AM (UOM48)

10 She's not smart enough to lie.

That's all she does.

Posted by: taylork at March 12, 2010 09:21 AM (0Hn5w)

11 You can tell she's lying when her forehead looks frozen.

Posted by: Gerry Owen at March 12, 2010 09:22 AM (4Hy88)

12 And she claims she was seven votes down yesterday.

Yesterday she said she had the votes.

Posted by: nickless at March 12, 2010 09:22 AM (MMC8r)

13 It's just part of the "inevitability" scheme.

Posted by: SlaveDog at March 12, 2010 09:22 AM (H6Jyg)

14 Moderate Democrats.

Pelosi has doubled down on stupid, and tripled down on crazy. She won't let this bone go.

The quickest way to make this thing go away without tanking your career.

A. Tell Pelosi you are a definite Yea
B. Vote Nay.
C. Watch Pelosi blow a gasket and melt down.
D. Make sure whatever happens in November, Pelosi does not get her speakership back. Campaign on replacing crazy with reasonable.

Then you might have a chance.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at March 12, 2010 09:22 AM (0q2P7)

15 It's just part of the "inevitability" scheme.

Yes.

Posted by: nickless at March 12, 2010 09:23 AM (MMC8r)

16 Hey Nancy...YOU LIE!

Posted by: DrewM. at March 12, 2010 09:23 AM (9B5OK)

What I can't figure out is...

Who is a bigger tool? Axelrod or Rahm?

Posted by: Grover at March 12, 2010 09:23 AM (gifD/)

18 She also said that they would have this as law by the end of summer...2009.

4 votes? That should only cost taxpayers about $1.2 trillion in favors, kickbacks, and staff "massages".

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 12, 2010 09:24 AM (cpuvG)

Who is a bigger tool? Axelrod or Rahm?

Son, get ye-self to Iowahawk!

Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2010 09:25 AM (dgpdi)

20 Does this me the new waterboarding machine finally arrived for the gym.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 12, 2010 09:25 AM (tf9Ne)

21 They are just trying to make us give up to the INEVITABILITY! They are lying and manipulating, trying to wear the USA down. Jesus Ben I swear you come off very "concerned" all the time. . . I know living in PA can depress you but what is the point?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 12, 2010 09:25 AM (SB0V2)

22 Will we see clarification today on the Enabling Act... uh, sorry, I mean the Slaughter Rule and the Senate parliamentarian? Politico says it's full steam ahead. Not that they are biased. No. Not at all.

Posted by: George Orwell at March 12, 2010 09:25 AM (AZGON)

23
They can keep pushing until they get it, then we're stuck with it. We can move the lever back and forth, but the ratchet means the screw only turns in one direction.

Ordinarily, that is true. But we are rapidly approaching the point where the entire mechanism flies apart.

Posted by: MikeO at March 12, 2010 09:26 AM (lBmZl)

24 @15
That actually sounds like an intelligent clandestine strategy for a Demotard who wants his job.

Posted by: George Orwell at March 12, 2010 09:27 AM (AZGON)

25 Oh, people can make up statistics to prove anything Ace, 14% of people know that!

Posted by: Dr. Homer Simpson, Statistician at March 12, 2010 09:27 AM (WKOg4)

This just in.

Pelosi Claims - " There is absolutely no need for a Feminine Moisturizing Product. I can Grease the wheels by Myself! "

Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2010 09:27 AM (dgpdi)

27 Still waiting for that hard pivot to jobs ...

Posted by: The Chewbacca Defense at March 12, 2010 09:28 AM (YMZjg)

28 6

it is as good as passed. She will get 4 votes.

Posted by: Ben at March 12, 2010 01:19 PM (wuv1c)

r-u-g-b-u-r-n-e-d knees

as piglosi stated 'whatever it takes'

Posted by: pitchforksandpowder at March 12, 2010 09:28 AM (FL+Uh)

29 If they don't kill this soon I may have a stroke.

Posted by: Mal at March 12, 2010 09:28 AM (Z+qzA)

30 I don't understand this. Why is Pelosi making public statements which will only provoke her enemies to action?

Posted by: Chris R at March 12, 2010 09:29 AM (AO4qz)

31 I can she all of a sudden have all these votes? Everyday I hear nothing but more and more Reps voting No?

Posted by: Richard Cranium at March 12, 2010 09:29 AM (k7Ddt)

32 32 If they don't kill this soon I may have a stroke.

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Posted by: Pelosi's Nose at March 12, 2010 09:30 AM (MFQJZ)

34 Ever since Dennis Miller named her "Blinky" and said her eyes make her look like she's signaling the Carpathia I've never been able to hear anything this harpy says without busting out laughing.

Posted by: Vile Roman at March 12, 2010 09:31 AM (iBzKc)

35 Is Sen. Bird a vote?? I am serious. He was totally against using reconciliation on health care, but now that he is absent (we don't even know if he is alive or conscious) his vote seems to have changed. How do we find out if he is alive or in a mental state where his vote is valid?

Posted by: fightobama at March 12, 2010 09:31 AM (6IV8T)

36 Pelosi has the votes for what?????? She never states what it is. Anyway, why would anyone make a deal with her when we all know she will not be SOH much longer.

Posted by: Fart-Tube-Jones at March 12, 2010 09:32 AM (k7Ddt)

37 O/T: The last thing batchelor said was "rumor has the vote will be next Thursday" and it will be a done deal.

"RINO Lindsey Graham & Chuck Schumer Present Their Amnesty Plan to Obama"

The next train coming down the track.....

Posted by: curious at March 12, 2010 09:32 AM (p302b)

38 If they don't kill this soon I may have a stroke.

If you're going to have a stroke, have it now before Bambicare gets shoved down our throats. You can hopefully get as decent care as Mrs. Reid is getting right now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 12, 2010 09:32 AM (UOM48)

Here's the thing about claims...

I claim that I'm handsome, charming, intellegent, rich, and well-endowed.

It's about as true as Pelousy's claim.

/Nancy, you lie!

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 12, 2010 09:32 AM (9hSKh)

Is Sen. Bird a vote??

Nancy is only concerned with congressmen not senators. That's another story: little Harry Reid's problem

Posted by: dagny at March 12, 2010 09:33 AM (OWLBl)

41 The Speaker doesn't have the votes.

Posted by: wtfci at March 12, 2010 09:33 AM (+zo63)

42 I agree with those that think Pelosi is doing this to suppress opposition. The groups and individuals opposed or pondering their votes is consuming more oxygen than the pro-Obamination process. She's seeking to reassert herself and change that balance. Add that to the compliants about imposing dealines and it seems that she is still engaged in tactical maneuvers. I must admit that she is good at that, but the fact that she can't get the needed majority out of her own party, which obtensibly can provide it, has to be galling to both her and Reid. She is suffering from a variation of the emerging weakness that Reid has been showing. She will likely keep her seat, but will also likely no longer be Speaker, as the Dems are shifted to the minority. The grumbling that she may lose the position even if the Dems maintain a majority are wishful thinking until we see more concrete evidence of that.

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 12, 2010 09:34 AM (R2fpr)

/T: The last thing batchelor said was "rumor has the vote will be next Thursday" and it will be a done deal.

RUMOR

Posted by: dagny at March 12, 2010 09:34 AM (OWLBl)

44 Obama has been saying the same thing since last year. If Pelosi only needs 4 and can get them today, then why doesn't she schedule a vote immediately rather all rule change games and other BS.

Posted by: Lem Doinklin at March 12, 2010 09:34 AM (k7Ddt)

45 Mike the Moose - How-a-bout: Tell Pelosi your a Yes, Vote Yes, also Vote Yes on Boehner's Motion to Recommit with Instructions - send a modest bill back to Senate. Kick this whole mess back into Reid's lap. Talk out of both sides of your mouth come November.

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2010 09:34 AM (/8Gs3)

46 Is Sen. Bird a vote??

Aren't we talking about the House?

Posted by: arhooley at March 12, 2010 09:34 AM (pSf77)

47 Look - making sense of any single statement Pelosi makes is difficult. Trying to make sense of her statements over time is madness. I think she's just making things up. The only thing that makes me think she'll actually be able to pass this is that I don't see the exit strategy out of the corner she's backing herself into: how does she get away with claiming she has the votes for a week when she actually doesn't and the bill doesn't pass? The lefty rage would be epic that one of their own would lie to them so blatantly. Perhaps she knows that if the bill doesn't pass that she's screwed anyway so lying about the votes she has to cause confusion and to try to keep morale up is worth it?

Posted by: Bald Ninja at March 12, 2010 09:35 AM (4pdbX)

I've never seen you without tht silly skirt on...hard to say.

Posted by: garrett the gamer at March 12, 2010 09:35 AM (dgpdi)

49
Three letters: J-O-B-S!

Posted by: Sheriff Joe at March 12, 2010 09:36 AM (fx8sm)

50 Nancy could have some trick up her sleeve too, but if she's only 4 votes shy, why not schedule the vote now?

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 12, 2010 09:36 AM (9hSKh)

51 Even if we kill this now and take back congress in November, what would prevent a lame duck congress from forcing this through?

Posted by: Mal at March 12, 2010 09:36 AM (Z+qzA)

52 Meanwhile, Michelle is getting pissed because her vaycay is being postponed. And when the Wookie gets mad......

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 12, 2010 09:37 AM (UOM48)

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Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at March 12, 2010 09:37 AM (ucq49)

54 what worries me is that Allah is not being an Eeyore troll over this.

Posted by: eddiebear at March 12, 2010 09:37 AM (wnU1W)

55 My bad I forgot to carry the one.

Posted by: Speaker Pelosi at March 12, 2010 09:38 AM (xJEYd)

56 God I hate this bitch.....

Posted by: Terry at March 12, 2010 09:38 AM (Vui52)

57 My oh my, you sure know how to arrange things.
You set it up so well, so carefully.
Ain't it funny how your new life didn't change things?
You're still the same old girl you used to be.

You can't hide your lyin eyes
And your smile is a thin disguise
I thought by now you'd realize
There ain't no way to hide your lyin' eyes

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 12, 2010 09:38 AM (cpuvG)

#52 I've never seen you without tht silly skirt on...hard to say.

It's not a skirt, damn it!

/Stupid Greeks and their stupid ancient clothes.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 12, 2010 09:39 AM (9hSKh)

59 She doesn't have the votes. She's gaming the weekend news cycle to give pollsters some time.

Posted by: wtfci at March 12, 2010 09:39 AM (+zo63)

60 Rush was saying during the lunch hour that the measure to be voted on next week will combine the senate bill with the student loan bill and a few other sweeteners.

Posted by: John Galt at March 12, 2010 09:39 AM (F/4zf)

61 I reiterate: Pelosi's lying

Posted by: Damn Skippy at March 12, 2010 09:40 AM (VDgKF)

62 41 O/T: The last thing batchelor said was "rumor has the vote will be next Thursday" and it will be a done deal.

"RINO Lindsey Graham & Chuck Schumer Present Their Amnesty Plan to Obama"

The next train coming down the track.... Lindsey's pool boy must be an illegal..

Posted by: huerfano at March 12, 2010 09:41 AM (gLSaO)

63 Even if we kill this now and take back congress in November, what would prevent a lame duck congress from forcing this through?

The Stupak 12.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 12, 2010 09:41 AM (cpuvG)

64 Rush was saying during the lunch hour that the measure to be voted on next week will combine the senate bill with the student loan bill and a few other sweeteners.

How can they "combine" the bills?

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 12, 2010 09:41 AM (9hSKh)

65 I claim that I'm handsome, charming, intellegent, rich, and well-endowed.

You had me at rich.

Posted by: Brokeback Mt Olympus at March 12, 2010 09:41 AM (tf9Ne)

66 58 what worries me is that Allah is not being an Eeyore troll over this. Posted by: eddiebear at March 12, 2010 01:37 PM His consistent optimism that this won't pass makes me think it might actually fail.

Posted by: Bald Ninja at March 12, 2010 09:42 AM (4pdbX)

67 You can tell when Nancy's lying. Her lips are moving.

Posted by: GarandFan at March 12, 2010 09:42 AM (6mwMs)

Pelosi is lying. But if Pelosi is not lying and says she needs 4 votes, that means she's 7 votes short like yesterday, and needs 4 members to switch from No to Yes.

Posted by: Never Mind at March 12, 2010 09:43 AM (/lFOb)

69 How can they "combine" the bills?

Seems like it will destroy any chance of reconciliation but hell I dunno.

Posted by: John Galt at March 12, 2010 09:43 AM (F/4zf)

70 Every word that comes out of Pelosi's tortured oral cavity is BULLSHIT.

Posted by: Cicero at March 12, 2010 09:43 AM (QKKT0)

71 Bitch, please...

Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 12, 2010 09:43 AM (pLTLS)

72 If O just annexes Austria Mexico, he won't need Amnesty.

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 12, 2010 09:44 AM (dQdrY)

73 When she has the votes they will vote. Until then you can not believe a single word any of those cockholsters in DC say. They are all lying fkrs.

Posted by: Vic at March 12, 2010 09:44 AM (QrA9E)

74 @64 I wonder if we've arrived at the point of 1 or both of 2 things happening: (1) Democrats know this bill is going down and so they're going to 'discuss' putting progressive initiatives in there so that after if crashes and burns they can say "Look lefties - we tried to pass socialist utopia" (2) Democrats see a new loophole in this stupid 'democracy' crutch and are clamoring to get their agenda passed.

Posted by: Bald Ninja at March 12, 2010 09:45 AM (4pdbX)

75 70: well, let's have Palin get involved. Then Beta Male will really go bonkers

Posted by: eddiebear at March 12, 2010 09:45 AM (wnU1W)

76 69 I claim that I'm handsome, charming, intellegent, rich, and well-endowed.

You had me at rich.

Posted by: Brokeback Mt Olympus at March 12, 2010 01:41 PM (tf9Ne)

You had me at well-endowed.

Posted by: Andee Sullyvun at March 12, 2010 09:45 AM (Vu6sl)

77 Sweet Jupiter's buttcheeks, what does it take to kill this goddamn bill? It's like Groundhog Night of the Living Fatally Attracted Dead Terminators XIII.

For fuck sake, it's like being locked in a room full of Jehovah's Witness time share condo salesman hopped up on a coke & Ecstasy.

Posted by: iowahawk at March 12, 2010 09:45 AM (veL4N)

78 This weekend, pollsters at CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN will be conducting polls on health care reform. Nancy is seeding the weekend news cycle so the lies reach viewers before the pollsters do.

Perhaps on Monday you see splashy stories about the polling data showing some new surge in support. It's a mirage.

That's the design.

She doesn't have the votes.

Posted by: wtfci at March 12, 2010 09:45 AM (+zo63)

79 @77 Vic Yeah - I think you've nailed the takeaway here.

Posted by: Bald Ninja at March 12, 2010 09:46 AM (4pdbX)

It's not a skirt, damn it!

Well it's not a dress, and it barely reaches the knee...

Are you claiming they are an ancient pair of Coulottes?

Posted by: garrett the gamer at March 12, 2010 09:46 AM (dgpdi)

81 Pelosi has threatened to lock the House doors and run around naked until she gets the votes. worse, she's going to allow CSPAN cameras in for this.

Posted by: KilltheHippies at March 12, 2010 09:48 AM (VKfXw)

82 Has anyone tried holy water in the thing. I'm pretty sure Pelosi would melt.

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 12, 2010 09:48 AM (dQdrY)

83 "47

/T: The last thing batchelor said was "rumor has the vote will be next Thursday" and it will be a done deal.

RUMOR

Posted by: dagny at March 12, 2010 01:34 PM (OWLBl)"

It was the last thing he said with a "think of this as you're going off to bed" idea and well, it's hard to sleep after the kind of show he had last night.

Posted by: curious at March 12, 2010 09:48 AM (p302b)

84 If she DID have the votes, there's no way they would let it stew all weekend and have members reflect on the consequences. It would just be more time for it to unravel. They'd have this up for a vote yesterday if they had the votes in hand now.

Posted by: nickless at March 12, 2010 09:48 AM (MMC8r)

85 "She will likely keep her seat, but will also likely no longer be Speaker...."

And after leading the Democrats to ruin WILL NOT BE MINORITY LEADER.

Posted by: GarandFan at March 12, 2010 09:49 AM (6mwMs)

86 I'm pretty sure the greeks went commando.

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 12, 2010 09:49 AM (dQdrY)

87 Are they stalling until Joe comes back so he can hustle this through?

Posted by: curious at March 12, 2010 09:51 AM (p302b)

88 Good God, this is like waterboarding the American public. why can't this bill just DIE?!

Posted by: vai2112 at March 12, 2010 09:51 AM (TcILN)

85 Pelosi has threatened to lock the House doors and run around naked until she gets the votes.

worse, she's going to allow CSPAN cameras in for this.

That's not so bad for us as it would turn all the House members to stone.

Or make them go irrevocabily insane.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 12, 2010 09:51 AM (9hSKh)

90 "In the end there will be only Skorts!!!!!!"

Posted by: garrett the gamer at March 12, 2010 09:52 AM (dgpdi)

91 It is fucking hilarious watching these idiots trying to talk past each other. Just yesterday James Clyburn stated they haven't even started to whip the votes, something Pelosi herself seconded when she stated they would have to take the fixes to the members first. Now she is stating this bullshit.

Posted by: Obama is Carter at March 12, 2010 09:52 AM (nvI5F)

92 Yeah, the Sherrif of Noddingsham will fix it.

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 12, 2010 09:52 AM (dQdrY)

93 #77
Vic is right, all else is bull shit.

She doesn't know what the fuck she has until they try to vote.

Get these bastards home so they can feel the hometown heat. If we can make it to Easter, this sucker will never be born again!

Stall baby, Stall!

Posted by: Kemp at March 12, 2010 09:52 AM (2+9Yx)

94 "In the end there will be only Skorts!!!!!!"

The Titans are nude. No skorts or whatever for them.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 12, 2010 09:53 AM (9hSKh)

95 First it's reconciliation, then it's holding the Senate bill "hostage" in the House after passage, then it's the Slaughter rule, then the Senate parliamentarian says one thing, no, actually it was something else; now it's rolling several bills into one. One day there will be a series of votes on rules and motions and bills and thingies and in the course of turning the Constitution into a game of "it depends what the meaning of the word 'bill' is," Barry will sign some papers to MSM applause and we will have socialized medicine... as a bonus the republic is finished. The idea is to turn this process into such a convoluted mess that the army of lawyers in Congress simply claim Hellcare is passed, 'cause they say so and fuck you.

Posted by: George Orwell at March 12, 2010 09:53 AM (AZGON)

96 Oh and by the way, close only works in horseshoes and hand grenades.

Posted by: Kemp at March 12, 2010 09:54 AM (2+9Yx)

#97 Get these bastards home so they can feel the hometown heat. If we can make it to Easter, this sucker will never be born again!

I dunno about the second part, but the first part, perhaps. Although Congresscriters like Slaughter don't plan to have open Town Halls.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 12, 2010 09:54 AM (9hSKh)

100 Oh and by the way, close only works in horseshoes and hand grenades.

And nuclear warfare.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 12, 2010 09:54 AM (9hSKh)

99 I want to chow down on Pelosi's box lunch.........

Posted by: Larry Flynt at March 12, 2010 09:55 AM (k7Ddt)

100 This is starting to get a little old...

Posted by: oh, Hi Mark at March 12, 2010 09:55 AM (WuVvx)

101 Pelosi Claims Just Four Votes Shy

She's so bashful; so coquettish; so demure; so bloated with botox that he skin is about to explode; so skin-stretched beyond the recognition of anything belonging to the human race or any other primate that walks on knuckles across the jungles of Africa.

Posted by: Antimatter at March 12, 2010 09:56 AM (gbCNS)

102

And nuclear warfare.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 12, 2010 01:54 PM (9hSKh)

Fuel Air bombs are close enough. And not really compicated.

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 12, 2010 09:56 AM (dQdrY)

103 The four votes are held up over Pelosi's insistence on including an amendment requiring American citizens to quarter troops in their homes.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 12, 2010 09:57 AM (P33XN)

104

103 I want to chow down on Pelosi's box lunch.........

I may never eat anything again, thank you very much.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 12, 2010 09:57 AM (9hSKh)

105 Fuck Lindsey Graham. Had it up to my fucking eyeballs with DEMOCRAT LITE motherfuckers like this.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Purveyor of Fine Meteors at March 12, 2010 09:57 AM (erIg9)

106 I thought she said she had the votes.

Posted by: kansas at March 12, 2010 09:58 AM (mka2b)

107
She is also 4 fries short of a Happy Meal.

Posted by: Atomic Roach at March 12, 2010 09:59 AM (Oxen1)

108 Thermobarics, too

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2010 09:59 AM (vb5IK)

109
Kratos,

chitoniskos

Posted by: MikeO at March 12, 2010 09:59 AM (lBmZl)

110 Repeat prediction: At some point before 2012 there will be a genuine Constitutional crisis. Whether it is manifest in something like Federal troops forcing integration in defiance of Governor Faubus under Eisenhower, or an attempt at packing the Supreme Court under FDR, who can say. But the authoritarian element in our government (Democrats and Obastard) will not permit a silly parchment document written by dead Whitey to tie their hands.

Posted by: George Orwell at March 12, 2010 09:59 AM (AZGON)

111 Thermobarics, too

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2010 01:59 PM (vb5IK)

Overpressure is your friend.

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 12, 2010 10:00 AM (dQdrY)

112 I be hallucinatin'

Posted by: Speaker Nancy effin' Pelousy at March 12, 2010 10:00 AM (+FkcS)

113 All this BS while the R's are ass fucking themselves on <name the golf course>

Posted by: Barbarian at March 12, 2010 10:01 AM (EL+OC)

114

114 chitoniskos

Bless you? Oh, you weren't sneezing, it was something else? *google*

Oh, okay.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 12, 2010 10:01 AM (9hSKh)

115

So there are actually four Dem representatives in the House who won't accept bribes?

I am shocked.

Posted by: Blazer at March 12, 2010 10:01 AM (t72+4)

116 There are no American tanks in Baghdad.

Posted by: Fallen Sparrow at March 12, 2010 10:02 AM (SOf9N)

117 @108 sickinmass

And because it wasn't done in revolution but instead over a 100 year evolution, we've gone numb.

Retarded Barry a gift to us because he's too impatient to nurse the creep, and that's breaking the comfort of numbness.

Posted by: MikeO at March 12, 2010 10:02 AM (lBmZl)

118 Either she's lying, or these Dems stating they're going to vote no are lying. Considering her track record, I think she's lying through her teeth in the hopes that it makes her look like a confident leader.

Posted by: Miss'80s at March 12, 2010 10:02 AM (sZ+lP)

119 I'd like to see that smirking Lindsey Graham (what a pussy name) take a five kinuckle sammich right dead in the knob gobbler.

Posted by: maddogg at March 12, 2010 10:04 AM (OlN4e)

120 Posted by: sickinmass at March 12, 2010 01:57 PM (1rflU)

Glen Beck may be a little nuts sometimes but he has done a good job of explaining this stuff.

Posted by: Mal at March 12, 2010 10:05 AM (Z+qzA)

121

Kratos @ 43

Here's the thing about claims...

I claim that I'm handsome, charming, intellegent, rich, and well-endowed.

It's about as true as Pelousy's claim.

Come on darlin'.....at least let me believe that you're well-endowed!

Posted by: Cheri at March 12, 2010 10:06 AM (G+Wff)

122

@128 Cheri

I'm hung like a Tyrannosaur. You believe that, doncha?

Posted by: maddogg at March 12, 2010 10:08 AM (OlN4e)

123 O/T: Another Mary/James marriage? Campbell Brown (seriously can't stand her) and Dan Senor (he's ok, but suspect cause he married her) but anyway that brilliant NY Republican Party has an idea for ol dan: "The discussions between Mr. Senor and the Republican leaders reflect their dissatisfaction with the existing field of Republican candidates in the state and their consensus that Ms. Gillibrand remains vulnerable to a challenger in the election this fall."

Posted by: curious at March 12, 2010 10:08 AM (p302b)

124 Judge Nappy says all the coercion and deal-sweetening that's going on to pass this mess will be grounds to challenge it if it's passed. "It may be quiet now, but it will all come out eventually."

Posted by: RushBabe at March 12, 2010 10:08 AM (LKkE8)

125

bullshit. the closer she claims to be, the further away she actually is. As if Dementia Pelosi would give th epublic a heads up to increase the pressure on the corrupt Dems byannouncing this,

Botox math, one flipped to no vote actually means 5 new yeses! Nancy, your imaginary friends do not get to vote

Posted by: ex dem at March 12, 2010 10:08 AM (vN9zC)

126 She was told to say this shit by the White House:

Rahm: You fucking idiot! Why the fuck are saying to the press that you don't have the votes??

Nancy: Because I don't.

Rahm (veins popping out of his forehead): Jesus H Fucking Christ.. we have to act like we have them.. or are at least close to convince the fence sitters they should come along with us.

Nancy: Ok.. ok.. don't blow a gasket.. I'll announce we're within 10 votes..

Rahm: No.. within 2..

Nancy: 6

Rahm: 4

Nancy: Ok.. ok!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 12, 2010 10:08 AM (f9c2L)

127 According the Daily Caller, they're going with the "Slaughter Solution" - passing the Senate bill without voting on it.

I know. I know. Don't blame me, I'm just the messenger.

Posted by: SlaveDog at March 12, 2010 10:09 AM (H6Jyg)

128 Nancy, the votes of your imaginary friends do not count. Now take your medication, your humiliating yourself with this bullshit claims

Posted by: ex dem at March 12, 2010 10:10 AM (vN9zC)

129 oh I was linking to the Times and I got confused and linked to huff poo poo...I profusely apologize! So the quote in #130 above is from the NY Times.

Posted by: curious at March 12, 2010 10:10 AM (p302b)

130

She probably has it. You can always depend on the Blue Dogs for being lying bastards. That's why they're Democrats.

I think that the Pubbies better start worrying about Grahmnesty and the return to that 2006 Amnesty bullshit that lost them their seats.

McCain is lying low, but he is ready to destroy his Party again, as soon as he gets renominated and reelected. Fucking turd.

Posted by: TexasJew at March 12, 2010 10:11 AM (HzNcF)

131 Her only hope is to have nervous fence-sitters begin believing it will pass, and believe they will keep control of the House next Nov because it passes, and believe that when it passes Pelosi will still be in a leadership position to spank them in Jan 2011, and thus conclude voting on her side is in their best interest. That's a lot of believing.

Posted by: dr kill at March 12, 2010 10:11 AM (w9bVp)

132

Botox math, one flipped to no vote actually means 5 new yeses! Nancy, your imaginary friends do not get to vote

Posted by: ex dem at March 12, 2010 02:08 PM (vN9zC)

Wanna bet?

Posted by: ACORN, Formerly at March 12, 2010 10:12 AM (erIg9)

133 They are setting themselves up for some serious hurt if they do that. It is so OBVIOUSLY unconstitutional it will get overturned, and people who understand it will be furious. Will there be ANY democrates left on congress after November? Hell this would be basis for recall of anyone who votes for it.

Posted by: doug at March 12, 2010 10:12 AM (6lG9o)

134 This Obama administration, as well as the reign of Pelosi and Reid, is just a fucking never-ending nightmare. If and when this health care crap is taken care of one way or the other, they're going to move on to AMNESTY? Cap n tax? I don't think it's hyperbole anymore to call the Dems political suicide bombers.

Posted by: Luca Brasi at March 12, 2010 10:12 AM (YmPwQ)

135 Posted by: RushBabe at March 12, 2010 02:08 PM (LKkE

Heard someone mention "the companion bill" on the radio in the car. What companion bill? Apparently all the goodies will be in the companion bill passed along side the health care bill.

Posted by: curious at March 12, 2010 10:12 AM (p302b)

136

Pelosi Claims Just Four Votes Cards Shy

FIFY

Posted by: rdbrewer at March 12, 2010 10:14 AM (aLGAq)

137
What if Pelosi's lie is intended to stall retarded Barry?

Retarded Barry is an upstart who frankly isn't long for the political scene. His obsession with driving hard left is playing havoc with numerous Washington empires that were painstakingly built over several decades. Congress will be Kennedy-free for the first time in about fifty years.

Who knows what kind of strong-arming Obama and Emanuel are doing?

Maybe exposing Massa was a warning shot across congressional democrats' bows.

Maybe somebody needs to investigate whoever was driving the truck that rear-ended Reid's wife and daughter (buy some stock in Alcoa before dropping that whopper).

Could it be that every meeting between Obama, Reid, and Pelosi ends with a "Just pass it, or else!" demand?

I have seen (in real life) otherwise reasonable people become intransigent over things that cannot be done. It's a form of insanity.

Posted by: MikeO at March 12, 2010 10:14 AM (lBmZl)

138 A quick scan of the MSM shows a sudden mass proliferation of the "Captain Awesome is seizing on the suddenly brighter chances of passage, because he's such a studly supremely gifted leader and we're so lucky to have him around" narrative. Complete coincidence, I'm sure.

Posted by: docj at March 12, 2010 10:14 AM (dt6br)

139 #77

Yup.

When Pelosi believes she has the votes, she'll call for the vote, and not before. She'll also probably be better off not calling for a vote on the Senate bill AT ALL rather than calling one in which she loses. . .which means that there NEVER may be a vote on this!

If Pelosi is saying she is four votes shy, that means that at best, she THINKS she still needs to flip four more House members.

But who knows how reliable her count actually is? Its is possible that she's being lied to by at least one House member?. . .I think so. Is it possible that there are still individuals on the fence, or more who are going to jump ship?. . .I think so.

Note also that Stupak doesn't have to keep his entire coalition intact for this vote to fail. With her margins being so narrow, just a few defectors will block this.

Posted by: looking closely at March 12, 2010 10:15 AM (6Q9g2)

140 look up Louise Slaughter another one of those Western NYer's and Nanny P's biggest fan. Put the links in the ONT, she was the one who said that she would not have town hall meetings and cater to "those people". But really, really where do these names come from, if it was in a screenplay you would say "oh how contrived"....so the woman who will deliver the "slaughtering" of the American health care system as we know it is named appropriately. As I said in the ONT, God has some sense of humor.

Posted by: curious at March 12, 2010 10:16 AM (p302b)

141 President Kiss of Death will be hanging around for another speech. I'm sure everything will go fine.

Posted by: Captain Snarkastic at March 12, 2010 10:18 AM (aLGAq)

142 #139

I don't think the Slaughter plan is anything more than gum-flapping. I doubt it will ever even be tried, let alone passed, let alone passed then used to ram through Obamacare.

The parliamentary details of the plan itself may be utterly incomprehensible to the lay person, but I think pretty much EVERY American adult can understand what it means when the ones with the ball change the rules in the middle of a game to score a goal.

The ensuing backlash would make the Scott Brown election look like nothing.

Posted by: looking closely at March 12, 2010 10:20 AM (PwGfd)

143 I just want it over with so I can either relax and enjoy my senior years or plan my suicide now to avoid the death panel.

Posted by: Mrs. Compton at March 12, 2010 10:21 AM (NaJ/S)

144 Pelosi herding democrats, rounding up the vote.

Posted by: rdbrewer at March 12, 2010 10:22 AM (aLGAq)

145 Posted by: sickinmass at March 12, 2010 02:20 PM (1rflU)

While I was reading your post, Rush was playing a clip of her saying that people can paint and be entrepreneurial and not have to worry about their health insurance and not have to worry because they can't change their insurance or leave their job because a child has asthma or someone in the family is bi polar. Seriously, reading your post while listening to that made it hysterical.

Posted by: curious at March 12, 2010 10:22 AM (p302b)

146 The Fascist Health Care Plan is an unfunded mandate and the states will tell the empire to go get stuffed. 35 have already.

Posted by: Flavius Julius at March 12, 2010 10:23 AM (IrdrP)

147 Is this the same Pelosi who claimed in 2006 that the Democrats were ready to lead?

Posted by: FireHorse at March 12, 2010 10:24 AM (cQyWA)

148 Is there an ACORN branch office in the House? Abductions, voter fraud, anyone?

Posted by: Fritz at March 12, 2010 10:25 AM (GwPRU)

149 Hitler thought he was winning the war, right up until he shot himself.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Luca Brasi at March 12, 2010 10:25 AM (YmPwQ)

150

152 I just want it over with so I can either relax and enjoy my senior years or plan my suicide now to avoid the death panel.

Why not welcome the death panel along for the trip?

Posted by: maddogg at March 12, 2010 10:25 AM (OlN4e)

151
I call BS on the hag's claim. She's trying to pull a Harry Reid where you say you have the votes even though you don't. It's magical thinking. Good for us that it never seems to work.

Posted by: Dang at March 12, 2010 10:26 AM (UA4gE)

152 We are so boned.

Posted by: DelD at March 12, 2010 10:26 AM (eWtdM)

153

I'm hung like a Tyrannosaur. You believe that, doncha? posted by Maddog

Why yes I do! Tyrannosaurs were notoriously small in that department. They were like the over deleloped body-builder in their day. While the Ty's body and mass were huge, his little "dickie-do" could barely be found. They are extinct you know

Posted by: Cheri at March 12, 2010 10:26 AM (G+Wff)

154 Isn't this the same person who, after eight years of failed policies, was ready to lead the House of Representatives to nonpartisan action in response to a crisis, brought about by eight years of failed policies, who could put petty party bickering aside, despite eight years of failed policies, for the good of the nation?

Posted by: FireHorse at March 12, 2010 10:27 AM (cQyWA)

155 Jeezus, George! Switch to decaf.

Posted by: Fresh Air at March 12, 2010 10:28 AM (gJV9g)

156 Pelosi added that she's just weeks away from inventing cold fusion.

Posted by: Crusty at March 12, 2010 10:29 AM (GvSpB)

157

Meanwhile Catcher's Mitt reporter Andrea Mitchell was pleading with a Dem House member today. She told him, "you've got to get this for him [Obama]".

If only there were a network(s) that could fill the void that Fixed Noise created when it decided to devote itself to the promotion of one party.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 12, 2010 10:29 AM (pLTLS)

158 I'm depressed.

How about we start the ONT -- and more importantly, the drinking -- 6 or 7 hours early?

Posted by: Y-not at March 12, 2010 10:30 AM (Kn9r7)

159 If they used the Slaughter Rule, could an American citizen file suit in the courts? Or could the SCOTUS challenge it directly?

Posted by: Miss'80s at March 12, 2010 10:33 AM (sZ+lP)

160 Pelosi Claims Just Four Votes Cards Shy Aren't there 48 in a Pinochle deck?

Posted by: Fresh Air at March 12, 2010 10:34 AM (gJV9g)

161 "The Health Care Reform Bill: Welcome To The Biggest Tax Increase In U.S. History"

Posted by: curious at March 12, 2010 10:38 AM (p302b)

162
Breaking:

Pelosi claims she's just 4 billion in bribe money short of the 4 votes she needs.

Posted by: Blazer at March 12, 2010 10:39 AM (t72+4)

163 "172 If they used the Slaughter Rule, could an American citizen file suit in the courts? Or could the SCOTUS challenge it directly?

Posted by: Miss'80s at March 12, 2010 02:33 PM (sZ+lP)"

Was thinking a little note from SCOTUS would suffice "don't bother it would be a shutout"....however, SCOTUS would probably not do that as it is a little unseemly and would in their minds lower the stature of the court....although that didn't stop the executive branch one iota at the SOTUA

Posted by: curious at March 12, 2010 10:40 AM (p302b)

164

Actually, the Tyrant Lizard fucked his way through about 20 million years of the late Cretaceous. I think we would do well to go half that long. I'll do my part.

Posted by: maddogg at March 12, 2010 10:41 AM (OlN4e)

165

ROFLMAO!

Posted by: jewells at March 12, 2010 10:46 AM (l/N7H)

166 169 I'm depressed.

How about we start the ONT -- and more importantly, the drinking -- 6 or 7 hours early?

Let's pretend we did and... not.

Posted by: Barbarian at March 12, 2010 10:49 AM (EL+OC)

167

If they used the Slaughter Rule, could an American citizen file suit in the courts? Or could the SCOTUS challenge it directly?

No they can not intervene directly on anything. In a very view limited number of cases they have "original juristiction" meaning that two opposing parties can take their case directly to the court. Usually those involve disagreements between the States. The overwhelming majority of cases involve appeals that must work their way up from lower courts.

As for an everyday citizen filing a suit, sure they can file in a federal district court. The question would be "can they get standing". I think a good case could be made under this proposed mess of a rule that they could halt it based on disfranchisement if their Representative was a Rep. The key though will be what side of the bed Kennedy gets up on though. The 4 liberals will vote the straight commie-D line as always.

Posted by: Vic at March 12, 2010 10:50 AM (QrA9E)

168 Jeopardy Category: Psychology
Answer: Pelosi Claims Just Four Votes Shy
Question: What is Magical Thinking Alex.

Posted by: shibumi at March 12, 2010 10:56 AM (OKZrE)

169 OMG It's "the Slaughter House Rule"

Posted by: curious at March 12, 2010 10:57 AM (p302b)

170 On MSNBC, both Howard Fineman and Lawrence O'Donnell have tried to salvage any ounce of credibility by both saying they do not see ObamaCare passing.

Posted by: Mark at March 12, 2010 11:00 AM (U2n1H)

171

If I was the vote nancy needed, I would literally ask for 100 billion dollars for my state in a future bill and structure it so it couldnt be withdrawn after I voted yes.

Forget this 300 million dollar louisiana bullshit. 100 Billion or no vote ms botox!

Posted by: Dan at March 12, 2010 11:08 AM (1jzSs)

172 Once ACORN registers me Nancy will only be 3 votes short.

Posted by: zombie TED Kennedy at March 12, 2010 11:17 AM (JKGfQ)

173 182 So, when 2 of 3 branches abuses their power, the 3rd branch can't do anything. Lovely.

That's true. Best thing would be to start by filing in a red state. What would happen the farther it went up the court system, I don't know. But the Slaughter Rule is clearly unconstitutional. This also sets a precedent whereby a congress can overrule a president from a different political party.

Posted by: Miss'80s at March 12, 2010 11:21 AM (sZ+lP)

174

http://tinyurl.com/yj5s3l6
Here is the link for who is voting how; the yeses the nos, and the leanings

From Hannity's web page

Posted by: dagny at March 12, 2010 11:29 AM (OWLBl)

175

Posted by: Miss'80s at March 12, 2010 03:21 PM (sZ+lP)

See the latest post. A Republkican in congress could fle immediately and should have standing. Tougher for a common citizen.

Posted by: Vic at March 12, 2010 11:33 AM (QrA9E)

176 Luckily close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades...

Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at March 12, 2010 12:03 PM (4LRFM)

177 Just called POS Speaker Pelosi's office. Asked if messages are actually getting through to her. When told yes, I proceeded to unload on the woman on the phone about what a piece of garbage Pelosi is, doing deals in the dark and dead of night behind closed doors, to cram a healthcare bill down the throats of the American People, the majority of whom do not want this bill. That I hope she never holds public office again, not even as a dogcatcher on a deserted island because she does not deserve to call herself a servant of the people after doing what she is doing. The woman sounded a bit stunned. Imagine that.

Posted by: LickyLicky at March 12, 2010 12:15 PM (dqWDy)

178

"I bet Nancy is a tigress in the sack."

Yea. With razor sharp, teeth lined vaj.

Posted by: bleeding stump at March 12, 2010 12:51 PM (ucq49)

179 Nancy's big problem is what to do if she finally accepts she doesn't have the votes. She'll probably have to figure out how to save her and Obama's face, without exposing how big the collapse was and how many defections there were.

She'll probably just come out and say something like "We can't get the Sheeple's Health Care passed because the Republicans are the party of NO -- we should call them NoPublicans -- they didn't even offer a plan of their own" (who cares if it's not true). She'll do this without ever taking a vote to ID who the defectors were (in both the Senate and House) and how bad the defection was.

This exit strategy will provide the Obamacrats the ability to continue the Sheeple health care debate while also collect $$$ thru the fall elections. It may also provide a contiguous plan and path for moving ahead Cap & Trade and Immigration reform, where the GOP will continue to be labeled the NoPublicans, except perhaps for a couple RINOs like Lindsey Graham.

If/when Obamacare fails, the problem for the GOP will immediately be how to quickly go on the offensive by putting forth a core group who can think on their feet while articulating a clear simple conservative message of what the GOP stands for that folks of all sorts can rally around. This group must also be willing to push Lindsay, John, Mitch, Maine sisters, and the rest of the Senate RINO dinosaurs away from the cameras and microphone so the conservative message doesn't get muddled. My guess here -- the GOP is likely to fail to go on the offensive and instead they will just continue to be offensive RINOs.

Posted by: drfredc at March 12, 2010 01:26 PM (ljMiA)

180

I've never been so scared for my country as I am now . . .

God truly help us all.

Posted by: KR1 at March 12, 2010 01:37 PM (JVAYv)

181 Four votes shy is as good as a million votes shy. I'd feel better if the margin were larger, but I'll still take it.

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182

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183

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