January 28, 2010

Polls: Campbell Within Four Points of Boxer; Tommy Thompson Leads Feingold
— Ace

Cambell 41%, Boxer 45%, and remember the old saw about incumbents being under 50%, and most undecideds breaking for a challenger.

She has bigger leads on Fiorina and DeVore, but nothing huge. I mean, no Coakley-sized leads or anything.

And in Wisconsin, Tommy Thompson has a lead of hitherto-believed-to-be-untouchable Russ Feingold.

One more Democratic senator who has long been regarded as a safe prospect for reelection may be facing a challenging year in 2010.

A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of likely voters in Wisconsin finds Republican Tommy Thompson edging incumbent Russ Feingold 47% to 43% in a hypothetical U.S. Senate match-up. Five percent (5%) like some other candidate, and four percent (4%) are undecided.

Any incumbent who attracts less than 50% support at this point in a campaign is considered potentially vulnerable.

Thompson hasn't jumped into the race yet; he's just being urged to do so. Obviously, with good poll numbers, his entry becomes more likely.

A lot of these guys might genuinely not want to serve anymore in politics. I hope they will run anyway, and turn that into a virtue, promising to only run and serve for a single term.

Hell, it would be nice if they promised to serve a fraction of a term. Give us two years or something.

Although most pollsters are being very conservative on the odds of a GOP takeover of the Senate (the House looks almost likely at this point), personally, the way things look now, I'd say the Senate is more likely than not to flip to the GOP, too.

Posted by: Ace at 06:50 AM | Comments (52)
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1 First? Possible? Anyway, if this awesome news continues, I might be in my bunk for the rest of the year....

Posted by: GuyfromNH at January 28, 2010 06:53 AM (GWXuo)

2 ...only because America is rediscovering its racist past.

Posted by: taylork at January 28, 2010 06:59 AM (4jZ56)

3 Historically, the House has never changed party control without the Senate changing to, or remaining with that same party.

If that makes any sense the way I'm wording it.

Posted by: toby928 at January 28, 2010 06:59 AM (PD1tk)

4 *sad face*  Aw, you guys know what I'm going to say.

Posted by: Louey at January 28, 2010 06:59 AM (euuyg)

5

Although most pollsters are being very conservative on the odds of a GOP takeover of the Senate (the House looks almost likely at this point), personally, the way things look now, I'd say the Senate is more likely than not to flip to the GOP, too.

A few months ago I would have said it was not possible but now it is becoming more likely everyday. The question is....are there enough Dem Senate seats up for a vote in 2010?

BTW, there was an article on Fox over the weekend that I linked to that said between 75 and 100 House seats would turn over.

Posted by: Vic at January 28, 2010 07:00 AM (QrA9E)

6
Ace loves him some poll, don't he?

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 28, 2010 07:01 AM (fx8sm)

7 "You know, I forgot Russ Feingold was a Jooooo ... for an hour."

Posted by: Christal Metthews at January 28, 2010 07:02 AM (A46hP)

8 How about we get some actual small gov't fiscal conservatives into office that won't go about fucking the chicken once they taste some power?

Posted by: citizen khan at January 28, 2010 07:03 AM (t/Xp7)

9

#9

Good luck on that

Posted by: VELVET AMBITION at January 28, 2010 07:06 AM (xLMtq)

10 Tea Party activate! Go balloons pudding!

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 28, 2010 07:08 AM (swuwV)

11

Happy to see Feingold is vulnerable but we do not want Tommy Thompson. He has been pushing Government Health Care for years.  We have a good Conservative candidate named Dave Westlake, and at least one other who's name escapes me at the moment, that would be much better than Tommy Thompson.

Posted by: indccc at January 28, 2010 07:09 AM (1kwr2)

12 I've been looking forward to voting against Feingold since I moved to Wisconsin.

Some people in WI are concerned Thompson's age makes him a "one-termer"; I think that's a plus (the Senate should not be a decades-long sinecure) and gives state Republicans six years to groom candidates/younger people six years to build a resume.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 28, 2010 07:13 AM (mR7mk)

13 Feingold has a big problem that can't be cured.  He's a world class dickhead.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 28, 2010 07:13 AM (gUO27)

14 The Take Back The Senate Scenario:

#1: Hold all currently GOP-held seats -- ☑ although Missouri will be close
#2: Win the low-hanging Dem fruit (ND, NV, AR, DE,) -- ☑
#3:Win the hard races ( CO, PA) -- ☐
#4:Win the extremely hard races (CA, WI, IL) -- ☐
#5:Have a not-quite-a-miracle happen in one of the following (IN, NY, WA) -- ☐



Posted by: Robert_Paulson at January 28, 2010 07:18 AM (tdJMo)

15

6 Ace loves him some poll, don't he?
at least it's not Pole. NTTAWWT.

Posted by: RealPoliticky at January 28, 2010 07:18 AM (nGR17)

16 I'm going to need a lot more buses to bring in illegal voters supporters from Illinois.

Posted by: Russ Feingold at January 28, 2010 07:18 AM (wPZU5)

17 Feingold has a big problem that can't be cured. He's a world class dickhead.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 28, 2010 11:13 AM (gUO27)

I agree, but for some reason, this theme that "Feingold is such a good guy, even if he's nuts" seems to be making its way around the intertubes this morning. It's a bit perplexing.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at January 28, 2010 07:19 AM (A46hP)

18 How can anybody pull a lever or smudge an oval or hang a chad for that  fuckbucket Feingold?  Come on WI, snap out of it.

Posted by: Dave on the sea at January 28, 2010 07:21 AM (OBDWE)

19 The trend is our friend. With Dear Reader and the rats doubling down, dreams can become reality.

Posted by: Seriously at January 28, 2010 07:21 AM (hUFAW)

20 Rubio moneybomb is my next stop for donations,
then CA...when is the GOP primary in Cali? I am holding off until I know who will be running against Boxer...

Posted by: ginaswo/MiM at January 28, 2010 07:21 AM (iX2MM)

21 MEMO TO THOMPSON NAYSAYERS:

Follow the Wm. F. Buckley axiom - Vote for the most conservative candidate who can get elected.
At this point, who cares if he's squishy on health care? HEALTH CARE IS DEAD! Morte.
It's how he will vote on taxes and spending.

Posted by: Biff Baxter at January 28, 2010 07:22 AM (zmX+X)

22 Illegals could make the diff in Commiefornia.

Posted by: torabora at January 28, 2010 07:24 AM (R+LUw)

23 Feingold doesn't like the Constitution...that's for sure.

Posted by: torabora at January 28, 2010 07:26 AM (R+LUw)

24 It would appear the NRSC is doubling down on past stupidity, recruiting "establishment" candidates in states where strong conservatives are already running.  Cornyn will never fucking learn...
http://tinyurl.com/ykzpmml


Posted by: Hatchet Five at January 28, 2010 07:28 AM (wPZU5)

25 Dream on, ace.

Posted by: Tumescent Republican at January 28, 2010 07:29 AM (Z/lpU)

26

Follow the Wm. F. Buckley axiom - Vote for the most conservative candidate who can get elected.

Uh, Bill, thanks for giving us McCain as a choice.  Drop the "who can get elected" part and we're good, otherwise you can kiss my axiom.

Posted by: barbelle at January 28, 2010 07:30 AM (qF8q3)

27 There is real doubt that Tommy Thompson would run for a Senate seat, even though Russ Feingold appears to be vulnerable.  Thompson is more of an executive than a lawmaker, opening the possibility that he would prefer to run for WI governor rather than senator. 

The current candidates running against Feingold (Terrence Wall, David Westlake) are nice guys, but have no chance of winning.  Neither has experience, name recognition or the ability to raise big money.

The sleeper candidate is Milwaukee conservative radio talk show host and author Charles Sykes, who has the intellect and knowledge to debate Feingold on the issues, the smarts to run a good campaign, and good media savvy.  Sykes is not yet in the race, although he is getting a lot of push and encouragement to jump in. More info here:   http://www.620wtmj.com/shows/sykes

Posted by: Michael_Haz at January 28, 2010 07:31 AM (n0UV4)

28
It would be nice to get rid of these tired, old, progressive bullies.

Posted by: Pre Paid Sex Monster at January 28, 2010 07:32 AM (0fzsA)

29 Hey, remember these are just "local" elections.  The same anger that got Scott Brown elected was the same anger that got Barak Obama elected.  These elections have nothing to do with Barak Obama or Democratic policies. 

Posted by: runningrn at January 28, 2010 07:38 AM (CfmlF)

30 Damn, this popcorn sure is tasty. The best of all worlds is probably the GOP gaining 35 in the House and 7-8 in the Senate - enough to tie Obama in knots for the following 2-years while leaving Nancy (or her successor) and Harry (or his) as dead Majority Leaders walking. It also leaves the remaining "Blue Dogs" with a most interesting Prisoners' Dilemma - go against Obama and his sinking ship or go down with it. Truly delightful.

Posted by: docj at January 28, 2010 07:40 AM (dt6br)

31 The current candidates running against Feingold (Terrence Wall, David Westlake) are nice guys, but have no chance of winning.  Neither has experience, name recognition or the ability to raise big money.

Paging Mr. Scott Brown, paging Mr. Scott Brown.

Posted by: DelD at January 28, 2010 07:41 AM (eWtdM)

32
As it happens, I went to high school with Tom Campbell, in Chicago. Good guy, very bright, but very liberal. If the choice is between him and Boxer, he's the obvious choice; a fiscally responsible social liberal probably is the best we can hope for in California. A trivia note: Campbell's father was a federal judge and oversaw the grand jury that indicted the Chicago 8.

Posted by: Brown Line at January 28, 2010 07:42 AM (VrNoa)

33 How can anybody pull a lever or smudge an oval or hang a chad for that fuckbucket Feingold? Come on WI, snap out of it. We did it. You can too!

Posted by: Massachusetts at January 28, 2010 07:48 AM (4Kl5M)

34 At this point, who cares if he's squishy on health care? HEALTH CARE IS DEAD! Morte.
It's how he will vote on taxes and spending.

Does not compute.

Posted by: MlR at January 28, 2010 08:00 AM (0G5pp)

35
Ace- You need to dial back expectations on the Senate, or you are just setting things up for a disappointment.  Since Biden breaks a tie, a takeover would require the GOP to win 10 of the 18 Dem seats up for election, while holding all their own seats.  Right now a pickup of as many as 7 or 8 seats looks plausible, but the last 2-3 seats will be a very steep climb. 

Consider that Inouye, Leahy, Murray, Mikulsky, Schumer, and Wyden all appear safe.  Open seat in CT looks pretty safe now too.

That means the GOP needs to win 10 of the following 11 seats: Bahy, Bennet, Boxer, Feingold, Gillibrand, Lincoln, Reid, Specter, DE open seat , IL open seat, ND open seat.   



Posted by: Jon at January 28, 2010 08:00 AM (Xt7UU)

36 All these 'safe seats'...not so safe. And the POTUS used his speech to antagonize and provoke the American people. And to piss off the SCOTUS, and furthermore to scold and peck at Congress to endanger their jobs some more.

November is going to RAWWWK, lol.

Posted by: lauraw at January 28, 2010 08:07 AM (++QbI)

37
Remember when "Teddy Kennedy's Senate Seat" was the safest one on the planet?

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 28, 2010 08:10 AM (fx8sm)

38 This post is raining on the Day-After SOTU parade. I'll read it later, maybe.

Posted by: Agnostica at January 28, 2010 08:11 AM (gbCNS)

39 Hold on Jon, it is only January. Nelson could resign, Byrd could move on, etc.

Posted by: Jean at January 28, 2010 08:13 AM (vb5IK)

40 Someone (Kerry, Reed, or Webb) will have to replace Gates at DoD; will a SCOTUS replacement for Ginsberg come from the Senate? I could go on.

Posted by: Jean at January 28, 2010 08:16 AM (tpEh1)

41 "How about we get some actual small gov't fiscal conservatives into office that won't go about fucking the chicken once they taste some power?

Posted by: citizen khan"

How about we at least stop the democrats first.  Indeed, the TEA folks need to take over the GOP from the ground up.  I hope you and every other fiscal conservative is doing what they can at the local level to see this happen, instead of bitching about RINOs.  Regardless, we have a choice between the GOP as it will be next year, or the democrats.  Take your pick.

If you want to improve the GOP, join us and make it happ'n cap'n.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at January 28, 2010 08:22 AM (dUOK+)

42

I would love to hear Senator Boxer addressed as "Ma'am."

Did I say "Ma'am?"  I meant "jobless bitch."

Posted by: kev at January 28, 2010 08:23 AM (Zz0oZ)

43 Feingold is like Harkin, way out of step with the state (yes WI has Madison, but Feingold is far too left for that state) but seems to have a connection with the voters and his long tenure makes him .

Feingold cannot be taken out by a nobody but could easily be taken out by Thompson.  The thing about these numbers is that both Feingold and Thompson are known by the electorate.  So their numbers won't change too much by gaffes or negative ads.

Even if Thompson doesn't run, these kinds of poll results often lead to people like Feingold deciding it's time to leave.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 28, 2010 08:28 AM (T0NGe)

44 Campbell is only a minor improvement over Boxershorts, at best.  DeVore would be a much better choice for CA...... but i know my fellow voters aren't that smart.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 28, 2010 08:44 AM (d1FhN)

45

Sabito on Fox says Senate R's pick up 7 and House pick up 27.

He says DE goes to R's

Posted by: Vic at January 28, 2010 08:52 AM (QrA9E)

46

I would love to hear Senator Boxer addressed as "Ma'am."

Did I say "Ma'am?"  I meant "jobless bitch."


Haven't you heard? These are now life-long titles. Even when these schmucks get thrown out of their office, it is considered proper 'etiquette' to refer to them with their past titles.

Of course, it is horseshit, but that's where following today's publicly accepted rules of etiquette gets you.

Posted by: MlR at January 28, 2010 08:54 AM (0G5pp)

47 Vic, are you living in a fantasy world?

Ted Kaufman - Delaware, not a chance

Roland Burris - Illinois, not a chance and the favored R is a RINO who voted for crap and tax.

Byron Dorgan - North Dakota; good chance here. So one of 4.

Kit Bond - Missouri– probably stay R

Judd Gregg - New Hampshire- most likely turnover to Dem

George Voinovich - Ohiotossup but under todayÂ’s environment stays R unless another RINO is selected.

First of all, Delaware is now "Solid Republican Takeover" in every listing: Beau Biden isn't running and Representative Mike Castle (former Governor as well) is favored to win by something like 30 points.  So there's two guaranteed Senate victories.  Then, Kelly Ayotte is favored to win in New Hampshire by 10+ points right now (assuming she wins the primary, which she will easily).  As long as she's not Coakleyesque bad as a campaigner (and she's on notice) there's another hold for the GOP. 

The GOP Senate nomination for OH is going to Rob Portman.  You'll like him a lot, I think.

The biggest tossup here is still in MO.  Carnahan now trails Blunt, but Carnahan is generally the better-liked candidate statewide and they're BOTH from political "dynasties" in Misssouri so the anti-establishment vibe could cancel itself out.  That's the one current GOP seat that I think is most likely to go to the Dems.

That's putting you some effin' knowledge, son.

Posted by: Jeff B. at January 28, 2010 08:56 AM (GhUHn)

48

Heh!  From Michelle Malkin (proof that there is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat): 

Every Senate Democrat voted to raise the debt limit to $14.3 trillion. The vote was 60-40 on straight partisan lines.

Posted by: runningrn at January 28, 2010 09:11 AM (CfmlF)

49

That's putting you some effin' knowledge, son.

I saved your post and mine. After November we will find out who had "the effin' knowledge", hoss.

 

Posted by: Vic at January 28, 2010 09:17 AM (QrA9E)

50 Does Teh Barry turn into a pillar of salt if both the Senate and The House flip? (Not that his is going to become as effective and sentient as a real pillar of salt, if only.)

Posted by: Mr. Chumpo at January 28, 2010 09:44 AM (dDysH)

51 Unlikely to flip the Senate this year.  We'll gain at least four, though, and possibly 6 or 7.  But 2012 will be a bloodbath.  We only have 9 seats to defend in 2012.  They have to defend 22, and that's not counting Lieberman or that commie fuckstain from Vermont.  In 2014, they have to defend 20 while we only have to defend 13.  We'll take control in 2012 and a super majority in 2014.

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