June 09, 2010
— Ace Okay, so, Katy Perry. Kind of hot, and not exactly shy about showing that off.
Used to be a Christian music singer. For real. But then she went mainstream, and by mainstream, we mean contrivedly provocative and slutty. As for contrived provocation, she released two singles in a row, one, "UR So Gay," derided as gay-baiting by gay-sensitive critics as she called out her ex-boyfriend for being gay ("and you don't even like boys/like penis"), and then her next single, "I Kissed a Girl," about some girl-on-girl making-out.
So, like, here's some outrage for the gays, and now, here's some outrage for the social cons.
I guess that's... okay. I don't know. Kind of attention-grabbing though. I understand that kind of shameless spotlight-whoring, mostly, but it still sort of annoys me.
Now we have Lady Gaga. Also contrivedly provocative, except, I would say, in her case, it's only 25% contrivance and 75% authentic, in as much as she's actually a mutant.
In case it matters: Not as cute as Katy Perry. Dog-face but cute butt.
Katy Perry is dissing Lady Gaga for going to the oh-my-God-so-cliched well of subverting Christian imagery for sexual/artistic outrage. "Blasphemous," she says, and "cheap," and certainly, she's right.
"Using blasphemy as entertainment is as cheap as a comedian telling a fart joke," Perry tweeted Tuesday."Alejandro" features Gaga in a latex nun's habit with a cross over her groin. Dressed as a stylish nun, the 24-year-old singer ingests a string of rosary beads and is stripped naked and ravaged by a group of scantily clad men.
It's no surprise that Perry could be taking issue with the video's imagery considering her strict religious upbringing.
Perry's parents are Christian pastors and she first started singing in their church. According to the "I Kissed a Girl" singer, she was not allowed to listen to secular music and grew up on gospel. for parents and grew up listening to gospel music.
Here's that video, once again shocking us with the same-old same-old, with your official moderate content warning.
On the other hand, here's Katy Perry's latest videos, in which she wears a cupcake bra with cherries for, you know, nipples.
Yeah, I don't know what the hell is going on in pop music either. We've got a Christian music singer, and I guess still a religious woman, making the proper case that the six bazillionth reiteration of Ooh-aren't-I-bad Christian bashing is "cheap."
On the other hand, she's running around in a bra made up of cupcakes, and licking lollipops, and a lot of other stuff that basically calls me to my Bunk.
Not exactly absolute moral authority. I'm kind of wondering if Katy Perry is also crazy. Something I kind of wondered from the first time I saw her.
I know people can be complex and have all sorts of contradictory impulses but this seems a little more incongruous than is typical. She's reminding me of Prince, with his alternating lyrics of Praise Christ and Do Me Baby.
I... think I'm with Katy Perry? Kind of?
Before you ask, "Why are you posting this?"
Two words: Cupcake bra. I thought that would be obvious.
Oh, Dearie: I didn't watch the end of that Cupcake Bra video.
They squirt frosting at the end.
I am baffled.
This is the woman who's, like, on our side n' stuff.
Radiohead Frontman: Music Companies "On Verge of Collapse." I'm sure few will shed tears.
The music industry was always considered sleazy and nasty and exploitative and filled with cheaters, chiselers, and thieves -- and it was considered such by the movie industry, which ought to tell you something.
A reader says that producers don't want artists, they want "spectacles," and I guess is therefore saying let the female artists off the hook a little; they're told be be slutty.
Clarification: Dave Clark, who wrote that, is a producer. He's talking about other producers, of course. Major label producers.
A Better Pop Chick: I mean, this chick from the Ting Tings is obviously pretty cute, but... you know, no cupcake bra needed to sell the song. Kind of sells itself.
And as for sex appeal: Yeah, I kind of want to hop on that. But it's not like she's really selling that. It's just... implicit. Obviously I want to hop on that. No need to really push me on that.
Katy Perry is pretty good-looking. It's not as if it would fail to occur to men that She'd probably be a pretty fun romp in the hay if she didn't say so.
Subtext. Look into it.
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Posted by: Gazzer at June 09, 2010 03:53 PM (vnYuG)
Posted by: steevy at June 09, 2010 03:53 PM (sR8/X)
Who is Russell Brand? Only reason I know who Katy Perry is because she looks like Zoey Deschanel.
Posted by: Dang Straights at June 09, 2010 03:55 PM (laUvz)
So Katy's right. Cheap and lazy. But it's pretty obvious shit, and Katy is being a cheap and lazy critique.
Posted by: Lex Luthor, Ruler of Australia at June 09, 2010 03:56 PM (dUOK+)
Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at June 09, 2010 03:57 PM (iQIaw)
Posted by: DirtyBlueshirt at June 09, 2010 03:57 PM (CO/RA)
Posted by: Splunge at June 09, 2010 03:57 PM (9uwvY)
And this is why modern music sucks more than usual. It's about the music imagery. Thanks, MTV!
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 09, 2010 03:58 PM (swuwV)
Posted by: ace at June 09, 2010 03:58 PM (66DVY)
Posted by: Splunge at June 09, 2010 03:59 PM (9uwvY)
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 09, 2010 03:59 PM (XIXhw)
Posted by: rdbrewer at June 09, 2010 03:59 PM (fCzr4)
As it is 'popular', I guess that means the public wants to hear half-naked skag whores grunting in time to bad music with lyrics suitable for the trade journals of gynecologists.
Pass.
Posted by: trainer at June 09, 2010 03:59 PM (yCWYQ)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at June 09, 2010 04:00 PM (NuAIL)
I guess in honor of the new women GOP contenders, it's gay week at AOS. A'ight, I'm gay game. I thought the "Glee" finale was uninspired, all things considered.
Posted by: William at June 09, 2010 04:00 PM (77TeU)
Paging Christoph to the courtesy phone, please.
Posted by: ErikW at June 09, 2010 04:00 PM (w9k87)
Didn't Roman women do something with snakes trained to sup on a woman's breast?
/Could have sworn I read it on Cracked somewhere.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 09, 2010 04:00 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: t-bird at June 09, 2010 04:01 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: RushBabe at June 09, 2010 04:02 PM (W8m8i)
Now we have Lady Gaga. Also contrivedly provocative, except, I would say, in her case, it's only 25% contrivance and 75% authentic, in as much as she's actually a mutant.
Until I see some pics of the mutated area, I'm unable to believe she's a mutant.
And oh, Katy has nice tits!
Posted by: conscious and thinking about Katy's cupcakes at June 09, 2010 04:04 PM (YVZlY)
Umm, "kind of" hot? Dude, she's hawtenss personified. I want to lick ValuRite off every inch of her body.
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at June 09, 2010 04:05 PM (G/oUM)
Posted by: t-bird at June 09, 2010 04:05 PM (FcR7P)
But I would say purposely insulting another's religion while being slutty is worse than just being slutty.
But the real truth of the matter is that this is why there haven't been any bands are musical talent worth a shit since about the mid 80's since MTV came out.
I don't understand why they just don't go ahead and have porn actors do shitty singing and dance naked with a hot screw for a finally.
Because it sure is hell true that none of the pop tart scrunts can sing.
Posted by: Vic at June 09, 2010 04:06 PM (6taRI)
Posted by: Brad at June 09, 2010 04:06 PM (GkYyh)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 09, 2010 04:06 PM (wd0Iq)
So don't blame these girls, they're just playing the game they've been instructed to play and will for their next year or two of their fame. The labels sign them to deals and tell them what to do, including the videos. Everything else is just bs--they have to become genuine long lasting superstars to voice any real opinions.
Have you seen Radiohead's Thom Yorke pronouncing the labels are dead? It's on linked on drudge today.
Of course, I don't think he knows anything about current label finances, probably just wishful thinking.
Posted by: Dave Clark at June 09, 2010 04:07 PM (87Xkm)
Yeah, pretty much.
The previously-mentioned bit of info that she's engaged to Russell Brand is also a giant flashing red light.
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 09, 2010 04:07 PM (fc+UJ)
He's a british comedian. Was pretty funny in Sarah Marshall, but then he hosted the Mtv awards and pretty much spent the entire show kissing Obamas ass and begging Americans to vote for him, haven't paid attention to him since.
Posted by: koopy at June 09, 2010 04:08 PM (awinc)
Like the "Christian" bands Creed and Nickelback?
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 09, 2010 04:10 PM (c0A3e)
Because it sure is hell true that none of the pop tart scrunts can sing.
That's why auto tune was invented. One doesn't have to sing. One can speak in a normal voice and the software will make you sound like Mariah Carey. Modern music is contrived bullshit.
Posted by: ErikW at June 09, 2010 04:11 PM (w9k87)
"I have the power to have unprotected sex."
Strong with her, the stupid is.
Also now that I know her idiot fiancé is in Get Him to the Greek, I'll pass on that flick.
Posted by: logprof at June 09, 2010 04:11 PM (Mmw0q)
They used to sleep with everyone, male and female. Then they became born-again type Christian and limited their sleeping around with other born-again type Christians.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at June 09, 2010 04:11 PM (/U/Mr)
Posted by: TC at June 09, 2010 04:12 PM (4XzsU)
Posted by: sTevo at June 09, 2010 04:13 PM (zIUsq)
Posted by: jimmytheleg at June 09, 2010 04:13 PM (41/fu)
Whoever composes the "music" for Perry's songs needs to be shot repeatedly with a submachine gun. And I wonder how good she sings without that autotune shit. When South Park parodied Mr. Gay Fish himself they said they had to intentionally sing bad in order for it to sound "good" using autotune.
I am kind of on the side of Perry here though as well. Gaga is being edgy and provocative by intentionally insulting a group of people that she knows will only result in more publicity for her. And Perry is merely being provocative in a "slutty" promiscuous way. Who's she insulting? The lactose intolerant? So she's probably less religious than when she's grown up but nowhere near the "Yeah fuck Christ" brigade at all.
Posted by: Peter Venkman at June 09, 2010 04:13 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: ErikW at June 09, 2010 04:15 PM (w9k87)
Posted by: Atomic Roach at June 09, 2010 04:15 PM (Oxen1)
Posted by: steevy at June 09, 2010 04:16 PM (sR8/X)
Posted by: lowandslow at June 09, 2010 08:15 PM (GZitp)
Ahem!
Posted by: Gays who go to Cher concerts at June 09, 2010 04:18 PM (Mmw0q)
Agreed. And Perry is hot, and doesn't seem to take herself as seriously as Miss "I'm so edgy/mysterious Gaga." Also, I'm @#$%ing sick of Gaga, can't get away from everyone constantly pushing her.
And for those it's all crap, pop is always crap. But at least let it be fun and entertaining.
Posted by: brak at June 09, 2010 04:18 PM (W5NBA)
Posted by: rdbrewer at June 09, 2010 04:18 PM (fCzr4)
That's all I've got for now. Everyone has that one area of weakness they would hate for most in their life to know about. These folks apparently get that shame thing out of the way rather overtly; see no skeletons!
Me, I prefer to hide my varieties of impropriety from all of you and get selective outrage at a public figure screwing up in front of everyone.
This is one of my favorite quotes from a Moron circa 6 months ago:
You really don't want people like me running around unconstrained by the binding strictures of Christianity, and the attendant fear of the judge who can't be fooled. And I worry that we are many.
Posted by: GW McLintock at June 09, 2010 04:18 PM (qwUGR)
I say that about Cher. She still tried to sex it up in her 50's.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 09, 2010 04:19 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: rdbrewer at June 09, 2010 04:19 PM (fCzr4)
I know plank speck dodah. But does having done something that some may find morally questionable mean that you yield all authority in the same vein to criticize, especially when the actual line of right and wrong is a little hazy.
If I drive 75mph in a 65 zone, do I give up the right to criticize those traveling at 105mph?
More pertinent if my party runs up a 500billion dollar non sustainable deficit, do I give up the right to criticize a 2 trillion dollar deficit?
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 09, 2010 04:19 PM (0q2P7)
Paging Christoph to the courtesy phone, please.
Posted by: ErikW at June 09, 2010 08:00 PM (w9k87)
Golf clap.Posted by: Ed Anger at June 09, 2010 04:19 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Hurricane at June 09, 2010 04:19 PM (O+WZD)
Posted by: buzzion at June 09, 2010 04:21 PM (oVQFe)
Wow, had to go read up on that. Learned something new today as I had never heard of this new type of fraud. Imagine Hank Williams Sr. using a device like that - not.
And these frauds wonder why the studios are going bankrupt???? They blame it on kids downloading songs on granny's computer????
One wonders if all these liberal douches know that the device was invented by a guy from Exxon for oil exploration.
Posted by: Vic at June 09, 2010 04:21 PM (6taRI)
Posted by: ace at June 09, 2010 04:22 PM (66DVY)
Posted by: Hurricane at June 09, 2010 08:19 PM (O+WZD)
No problem here, but can I get sprinkles on my cupcakes? I like to lick them off. IYKWIMAITTYD
Posted by: conscious and thinking about Katy's cupcakes at June 09, 2010 04:22 PM (YVZlY)
Posted by: PJ at June 09, 2010 04:23 PM (dLFNL)
Lady Gaga does parallel Madonna a bit in that her sound and look is edgy like Venkman said. I'm a product of the 80's and people were outraged by her act. Look where that took her.
I could give a shit less about Lady Gaga's music but she has her own distinct style and her music will probably be playing soon on the fashion runways of Milan and Paris.
Katy Perry is hot and that's about it.
Posted by: ErikW at June 09, 2010 04:23 PM (w9k87)
Posted by: nickless at June 09, 2010 04:24 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: ace at June 09, 2010 04:24 PM (66DVY)
Posted by: ace at June 09, 2010 04:24 PM (66DVY)
Good point. Remember that there's no such thing as "bad publicity" to some performers.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 09, 2010 04:25 PM (c0A3e)
I wasn't really paying much attention during bible study, but is it really a sin to inspire impure thoughts in another?
I think it might be. Not certain but it could come down to whether you are seeking to inspire the thoughts or if its unintentional. If its unintentional then the sin belongs solely to the one thinking it. But if you were seeking to then I would call your thoughts just as impure as those you have inspired.
So um, Take 4 Hail Mary's, 2 Our Father's and call me in the morning. Or something like that.
Posted by: buzzion at June 09, 2010 04:26 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: Vic at June 09, 2010 04:27 PM (6taRI)
Posted by: ace at June 09, 2010 04:28 PM (66DVY)
Posted by: gaykon at June 09, 2010 04:29 PM (YVZlY)
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 09, 2010 04:30 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: gaykon at June 09, 2010 08:29 PM (YVZlY)
--I gotta hand it to gaykon: at least he walks the walk and is in no danger of reproducing.
Posted by: logprof at June 09, 2010 04:31 PM (Mmw0q)
She has something to say about the song here.
I think. I wasn't really paying attention to what she was saying.
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 09, 2010 04:32 PM (fc+UJ)
Posted by: ace at June 09, 2010 08:28 PM (66DVY)
Ace, that's Pacific ocean depth thinking. For her stuff you need to think shallow end of the kiddy pool.
Posted by: buzzion at June 09, 2010 04:32 PM (oVQFe)
A modest proposal: we execute everybody who's ever cut a record or appeared in a movie or TV.
Yeah, we'd lose a few good people, but we'd lose a hell of a lot of shitheads and other assorted scum that we need to lose. And then we could start over.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 09, 2010 04:33 PM (LG/SZ)
She has something to say about the song here.
I think. I wasn't really paying attention to what she was saying.
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 09, 2010 08:32 PM (fc+UJ)
She has a mouth?
Posted by: buzzion at June 09, 2010 04:34 PM (oVQFe)
Well, I just watched the Lady Gaga video (with the sound off). All I got out of it was that she wants to be a gay man in Fascist-era Spain.
Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 04:34 PM (7AOgy)
Romans 14:21
(21) It is good neither to eat meat nor drink wine nor do anything by which your brother stumbles or is offended or is made weak.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 09, 2010 04:34 PM (0q2P7)
Or a Really Strong Immune System.
Posted by: Gary B at June 09, 2010 04:34 PM (1gWfF)
And these frauds wonder why the studios are going bankrupt????
It's a damnable fraud. Music died in the mid 90's (arguably much earlier than that) right along with the rest of pop culture. The only hope left is that the newer generations see it for the bullshit that is and reject it.
Maybe then some new musicians will be inspired to follow their own sound instead of taking their cues from a producer with his own self interests in mind.
Posted by: ErikW at June 09, 2010 04:35 PM (w9k87)
Niche marketing. The business had demographics to consider and styles to fill. They needed W number of rap bands, X number of synth pop bands, Y number of Madonna knock-offs, and Z number of metal. If you weren't in a desired niche or the niche you were in didn't have an opening, then you weren't going to get corporate backing. The business wanted a sure thing and took risks only when a niche needed filling. It studied the markets, made assumptions on what that demographic expected, and pumped out over-produced, packaged goods that were safe (as in marketable).
There are many, many musicians that will never be heard. Musical skill has less and less to do with getting produced. The best example: the cycle of "boy bands" that rotate through. Even South Park mocked this phenomenon.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 09, 2010 04:36 PM (swuwV)
Posted by: ace at June 09, 2010 08:28 PM (66DVY)
Yes, it's hard to see how the addition of religious symbols makes it so much worse than what Katy does -- it's like, what line is left to cross?
As far as what it means -- in both instances, it means, "Look at me! Look at me!"
Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 04:37 PM (7AOgy)
Good grief. Can't you all smell manufactured outrage from a million miles away by now?
Gaga's crap is rehashed Madonna, complete with BnW Vogue session. Her schtick wasn't art or new back when that tramp did it...but it was offensive so people labeled that trash "cutting edge..." and tweens and really Stupid People -- of which there are far too many -- slurped it up. The rest of us who recognized the Christian bashing and "prostitution set to music" theme just yawned and moved along.
They're trying it again, and now this time even the Stupid People are saying "Been there..."
So you get Perry the Christian Hyporcrite to try and boost both her and Gaga's record sales with this Cat-In-Heat-fight.
And look! We're actually talking about it instead of dismissing it.
If Perry had kept the hole under her nose shut -- and I'm referring to the one that is possibly, but doubtfully, penetrated less than the others -- then no one here would have even thought about bringing it up.
Here's another hoop, General Public, now...Jump!
Posted by: BB at June 09, 2010 04:37 PM (qF8q3)
Posted by: buzzion at June 09, 2010 04:38 PM (oVQFe)
53 koopy: "He's [Brand] a british comedian."
I agree with you that he's British.
I will haunt you for the rest of your life, taking the form of Russell Brand. And yes, I will sodomize you.
Posted by: Winston Churchill's Ghost at June 09, 2010 04:38 PM (vwg/7)
A modest proposal: we execute everybody who's ever cut a record or
appeared in a movie or TV.
Dude, way too broad a net -- you snagged me in it. Limit it to major labels and studios.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 09, 2010 04:38 PM (0onAO)
Posted by: Jerry at June 09, 2010 04:38 PM (7Ahkq)
I think Gaga's talented enough to do it without the visual stuff, but apparently that doesn't work.
This would be cool: Next gaga album "Just Me" and she sheds the bullshit. Just her and a paino, maybe a band.
Posted by: rdbrewer at June 09, 2010 04:40 PM (fCzr4)
Change a few words and your post is a description of modern electoral politics.
Posted by: davidt at June 09, 2010 04:41 PM (HtIec)
Did someone say Madonna knock-offs?
Posted by: Regina at June 09, 2010 04:42 PM (Mmw0q)
Katy Perry might be going for the...
Katy Perry is going for the "I'm going to do whatever I'm told to do because I'm a talentless whore" meme. It's worked for every pop female since MTV started...
Posted by: BB at June 09, 2010 04:42 PM (qF8q3)
Posted by: steevy at June 09, 2010 04:42 PM (sR8/X)
Posted by: steevy at June 09, 2010 04:43 PM (sR8/X)
Posted by: Ken at June 09, 2010 04:44 PM (vwg/7)
Why does it matter, and why are we supposed to even care?
Specifically what's so wrong with a cupcake bra that shoots whipped cream? Call me jaded, but I didn't think that was a big deal.
Lady Gaga is 100% fabricated too. Were she really that nutty and just randomly hitting success, it would be a lot less frequent. She knows "pop" like Steven Hawking's knows cosmology.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at June 09, 2010 04:44 PM (oIp16)
You're just saying that on the off-chance that that really is Obama in the Whoomp There It Is video.
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 09, 2010 04:44 PM (fc+UJ)
I've gotten way cynical over the last few years-- maybe I've lived too long, but I'm FUCKING SICK of hearing what twisted fuck did what to get his/her name mentioned on TV so he/she can cash in.
Cure cancer or something, fine, but if you're just flashing your tits or sucking the houseboy's dick on pay-per-view, don't waste my time.
Posted by: nickless at June 09, 2010 04:45 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Cincinnatus at June 09, 2010 04:46 PM (r60xu)
Posted by: ParisParamus at June 09, 2010 04:47 PM (2/WqP)
Posted by: sifty at June 09, 2010 04:50 PM (BJIhx)
Test Drive!
Posted by: Jerry at June 09, 2010 08:38 PM (7Ahkq)
Who is The Master!
Posted by: buzzion at June 09, 2010 04:51 PM (oVQFe)
As for Katy, I'm so over that retro-swimsuit and sunglasses shtick.
(An the wink-wink, "bi" tease shit is stale. Try to get some fucking talent, girls.)
Posted by: logprof at June 09, 2010 04:54 PM (Mmw0q)
Posted by: buzzion at June 09, 2010 04:55 PM (oVQFe)
Here's another hoop, General Public, now...Jump!
Posted by: BB at June 09, 2010 08:37 PM (qF8q3)
Fuck you! We'll do it our way!
Posted by: General Public at June 09, 2010 04:56 PM (Mmw0q)
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Posted by: bigred at June 09, 2010 04:59 PM (WUwAu)
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 09, 2010 05:00 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at June 09, 2010 05:02 PM (YVZlY)
I never imaginged that my minor contribution as a zombified townsperson in the highly forgettable straight-to-video Palmer's Pickup would lead to death threats.
Posted by: damian at June 09, 2010 05:03 PM (4WbTI)
The Christian angle is just for shock, who cares? I'm a Christian (not a very good one) and I was more bothered when Jennifer Knapp came out as a lezzie than I was when Perry decided to rebel.
Who gives a shit? This "fallen Christian" crap is what gives MTV Productions orgasms. They want nothing more than to corrupt kids because the disposable income of teenagers is about the same as a working family of four.
Follow the money!
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Posted by: Larry Marchant at June 09, 2010 05:18 PM (fCzr4)
Yeah, I don't know what the hell is going on in pop music either.
Clearly. I mean, I love ya', Ace, but you act as if "who is this Katy Perry person? I think she had a hit single, maybe...."
Her debut album was HUGE. Spawned at least three major pop-music singles. And she's more than just "kind of hot".
And then there's Lady Gaga, who is doing her best to become this generation's Madonna. And succeeding. Seriously, I doubt that too many people here care for her, but she actually does make shockingly good pop / dance-pop music. Even if you dislike her blatant attention-whore personality, her musical work is actually very solid.
Posted by: Vyceroy at June 09, 2010 05:21 PM (bXxzb)
Posted by: Monty at June 09, 2010 05:21 PM (O3eFQ)
It's a damnable fraud. Music died in the mid 90's (arguably much earlier than that) right along with the rest of pop culture. The only hope left is that the newer generations see it for the bullshit that is and reject it.
Maybe then some new musicians will be inspired to follow their own sound instead of taking their cues from a producer with his own self interests in mind.
Posted by: ErikWThe music industry has always been sleezy. It was sleezy in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, 00's and today still. The bands all talk about not wanting to sell out, but when the public isn't blown away by just how awesome they are, well then they say it's the record companies' fault. The record companies spend a ton of money on promoting the records and artists, and trust me, without that push, those songs don't get played on the radio or booked on tv shows.
Do you ever wonder how Saturday Night Live will have U2 one weekend, and then for the next 2 weekends will have Captain Geech & The Shrimpshack Shooters and Hot Jade Stumps. The record company basically told Lorne Michaels, booking those 2 gets you U2.
Without that promotion, the records just don't get airplay, and the record companies do not get behind records that they know won't sell. Years ago, they could possibly build an artist over several albums, but like most things now, you better be ready for the big time from the get go.
Posted by: MrCaniac at June 09, 2010 05:22 PM (Vol3D)
I'd be more impressed if they did something shocking with islam. After all, mohammed was a pedofile who married Aisha when she was 6 and raped her when she was 9.
Now THAT'S shock value. And true.
But hey hey party party - Christians are bad.
Hey nani nani!
I read that he liked sucking the tongues of young children - but hey - it's all reltive, pass the crack pipe.
Posted by: Dianne at June 09, 2010 05:23 PM (2PINY)
Posted by: di butler, maker of bad decisions at June 09, 2010 05:26 PM (S3xX1)
This would be cool: Next gaga album "Just Me" and she sheds the bullshit. Just her and a paino, maybe a band.
Posted by: rdbrewer at June 09, 2010 08:40 PM (fCzr4)
.... and no clothes. I support this 100%.
Posted by: CyclopsJack at June 09, 2010 05:27 PM (a4o2p)
That's why the old saying holds true: no matter how good-looking she is, there's at least one man out there who's sick of her shit.
Posted by: Monty at June 09, 2010 09:21 PM (O3eFQ)
Don't forget the other saying, almost equally as important: "Enthusiasm makes up for a lot."
Posted by: buzzion at June 09, 2010 05:29 PM (oVQFe)
Don't forget the other saying, almost equally as important: "Enthusiasm makes up for a lot."
Posted by: buzzion at June 09, 2010 09:29 PM (oVQFe)
--Who was it that said, "Older women are great because they never know if it'll be their last time"? Well, Fat/ugly chicks are not much different.
Posted by: logprof at June 09, 2010 05:30 PM (Mmw0q)
Posted by: schizuki at June 09, 2010 05:32 PM (VE5tZ)
Posted by: Larry Marchant at June 09, 2010 05:32 PM (66DVY)
Hmmmm, for musical babes right now, I'd take Kelly from the Dollyrots.
Yeah, she's a communist, but most people in the enterainment business are.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at June 09, 2010 05:34 PM (kmEfr)
Posted by: CTD at June 09, 2010 05:34 PM (O5z3Y)
Posted by: Ozzy Osbourne, Alice Cooper, and Marilyn Manson at June 09, 2010 05:35 PM (X0IzH)
Posted by: Will Folks at June 09, 2010 05:35 PM (66DVY)
Posted by: Gen raykon at June 09, 2010 05:37 PM (zX2px)
Posted by: Ozzy Osbourne, Alice Cooper, and Marilyn Manson at June 09, 2010 09:35 PM (X0IzH)
Don't forget biting the head off a bat live on stage, or piss on the alamo.
Posted by: buzzion at June 09, 2010 05:37 PM (oVQFe)
Amateurs.
Posted by: GG Allin at June 09, 2010 05:38 PM (X0IzH)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 09, 2010 05:38 PM (wd0Iq)
Posted by: Larry Marchant at June 09, 2010 05:40 PM (fCzr4)
Posted by: Monty at June 09, 2010 05:41 PM (O3eFQ)
Wants some real controversy? Bite the head off a dove. Or maybe a chicken. Or defecate on-stage.
Posted by: Ozzy Osbourne, Alice Cooper, and Marilyn Manson at June 09, 2010 09:35 PM (X0IzH)
Nothing says controversy like a triple hanging. Woohoo! Imagine the ratings!
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 09, 2010 05:42 PM (LG/SZ)
Posted by: Gen raykon at June 09, 2010 05:42 PM (zX2px)
Posted by: Will Folks at June 09, 2010 05:42 PM (66DVY)
Posted by: Will Folks at June 09, 2010 05:45 PM (66DVY)
Posted by: Gen raykon at June 09, 2010 05:45 PM (zX2px)
Posted by: schizuki at June 09, 2010 09:32 PM (VE5tZ)
FIFY
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at June 09, 2010 05:45 PM (YVZlY)
Posted by: Larry Marchant at June 09, 2010 05:45 PM (fCzr4)
Posted by: Larry Marchant at June 09, 2010 05:46 PM (fCzr4)
Sir Gaga is one fugly, talentless dude. In the "Poker Face" video, if you freeze it at 1:31, you can see one of his balls came untucked.
And the music industry deserves to die for greenlighting that Ting Tings "That's Not My Name" bullshit. Easily the most irritating song I've heard all year.
I'd rather jack off to the Rosie O'Donnell Show while listening to William Hung singing "Ave Maria" than to have to hear the fucking Ting Tings one more time.
I'd rather listen to Larry Marchant narrate the audio version of "Lady Chatterly's Lover" than listen to that shit again.
Do I make myself clear?
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 09, 2010 05:46 PM (xGIqT)
I think the fact that Perry is marrying that unfunny super freak Russel Brand pretty much sums the type of person she is.
As for Lady Gaga she's just a flat out weirdo.
Posted by: Hellrider at June 09, 2010 05:47 PM (HZLFk)
In a weird way, I almost feel like Gaga is a victim here. She was in the music industry for years before adopting her current persona, and had plenty of talent, but being plain ol' Stefani Germanotta, good singer and pianist, wasn't enough to get her anywhere.
Plus, I'm kind of disappointed that she had to go the religion route for her new shocks. Yawn. Is Haus of Gaga running out of ideas or something? It's practically a step down for her. Nobody wants to see Dali paint realism.
Posted by: Tungsten Monk at June 09, 2010 05:47 PM (5jbMr)
Posted by: Larry Marchant at June 09, 2010 05:48 PM (fCzr4)
Posted by: Larry Marchant at June 09, 2010 05:49 PM (fCzr4)
Definitely cute in Gimme Sympathy.
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 09, 2010 05:49 PM (fc+UJ)
Posted by: Will Folks at June 09, 2010 05:49 PM (66DVY)
Posted by: dorkafork at June 09, 2010 05:50 PM (npEqZ)
Because I care, I'm gonna throw down a hate link to all things Gaga.
And remember, you can't spell "Gaga" without GAG.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 09, 2010 05:51 PM (xGIqT)
Music today is nothing but trite crap twaddle and the singing is studio rigged and the sex appeal is just tawdry whorish parades of sluts who won't make it to fifty.
Posted by: Potty Mouth at June 09, 2010 05:52 PM (Glxw+)
My honor requires that admit I had sexural relations with TM last week. We had sex. And she has failed to address the fact that we had dinner and then drinks after midnight.
Posted by: Larry Marchant at June 09, 2010 05:52 PM (fCzr4)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 09, 2010 05:52 PM (9Lm5R)
Posted by: Larry Marchant at June 09, 2010 05:54 PM (fCzr4)
Posted by: Will Folks at June 09, 2010 05:54 PM (66DVY)
I really like that Kelly Clarkson song "Already Gone", but my wife doesn't.
Really, since I'm 40 I really only listen to 70's, 80's and early 90's music. I guess that's considered "golden oldies" nowadays.
Posted by: Ken at June 09, 2010 05:54 PM (UdULD)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 09, 2010 05:54 PM (wd0Iq)
Posted by: Ken at June 09, 2010 05:55 PM (UdULD)
Acoustically, without a costume or a synthesizer or any of that stuff, she's pretty good and has a nice range--everything else is just stage dressing.
This is what I was getting at. She's a solid talent, and just the raw talent, sans visuals, makes her better than Ms. Big Mashed Boobies.
Posted by: Larry Marchant at June 09, 2010 05:56 PM (fCzr4)
Nah. She was signed at 19. She's all of 24 now.
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 09, 2010 05:58 PM (fc+UJ)
Posted by: Larry Marchant at June 09, 2010 05:59 PM (fCzr4)
Posted by: Larry Marchant at June 09, 2010 06:00 PM (66DVY)
Posted by: Will Folks at June 09, 2010 06:02 PM (66DVY)
I prefer women with a more timeless, ethereal beauty, women such as Audrey Hepburn, Igmar Bergman, and Taye Diggs.
Oh, don't I know it. Bergman and Diggs.
Posted by: Larry Marchant at June 09, 2010 06:04 PM (fCzr4)
Posted by: Larry Marchant at June 09, 2010 06:07 PM (66DVY)
you owe me rent for all the time your wife spent on my face.
No, my wife does. Don't try to stick me with that bill.
Posted by: Larry Marchant at June 09, 2010 06:07 PM (fCzr4)
Posted by: Larry Marchant at June 09, 2010 06:08 PM (90oki)
Posted by: ace at June 09, 2010 06:09 PM (66DVY)
Posted by: apb at June 09, 2010 06:09 PM (W3oOU)
Posted by: Larry Marchant at June 09, 2010 06:09 PM (fCzr4)
Posted by: Larry Marchant at June 09, 2010 06:10 PM (fCzr4)
Music today is nothing but trite crap twaddle and the singing is studio rigged and the sex appeal is just tawdry whorish parades of sluts who won't make it to fifty.
Then every once in a while you'll get a Carrie Underwood.
I totally agree. We live in a world of instant pleasure and fleeting glimpses of fame but on the rare ocassion a real person will shine through, whether it be me or you.
Posted by: ErikW at June 09, 2010 06:13 PM (w9k87)
I'm carrying underwood right now!
It's funny because it's true.
Posted by: The Todd at June 09, 2010 06:15 PM (1CirG)
Posted by: Will Folks at June 09, 2010 06:16 PM (66DVY)
Just to get ahead of this story before someone breaks it on my blog to the utter distress of my wife and family, yes, I get Carrie Underwood any time I want.
Posted by: Will Folks at June 09, 2010 06:16 PM (1CirG)
Posted by: The Outsourced Indian Version of Will Folks at June 09, 2010 06:17 PM (66DVY)
Posted by: The Outsourced Indian Version of Will Folks at June 09, 2010 06:20 PM (66DVY)
Posted by: The Outsourced Indian Version of Will Folks at June 09, 2010 06:24 PM (66DVY)
Posted by: The Outsourced Indian Version of Will Folks at June 09, 2010 06:31 PM (66DVY)
Yes, but can you do ze Russian Jewish refugee version of Will Folks?
Posted by: The German Corporate Headquarters Version of Will Folks at June 09, 2010 06:34 PM (fCzr4)
Posted by: The Outsourced Indian Version of Will Folks at June 09, 2010 06:35 PM (66DVY)
"My superior does not haf my sense of humor. I suggest you deal with me."
Zats the line I use to kill ze ladies. It works every time.
Posted by: The German Corporate Headquarters Version of Will Folks at June 09, 2010 06:37 PM (fCzr4)
Most Esteemed Sir,
I request you do me the favour of no longer carrying the pretense of being knowledgeable of our dialect.
Kindest Regards,
Posted by: Indian Student at June 09, 2010 06:42 PM (Mmw0q)
Posted by: The Outsourced Indian Version of Will Folks at June 09, 2010 06:43 PM (66DVY)
Posted by: d3ft punk at June 09, 2010 06:46 PM (oHAAE)
Though, seriously, they need to release a new record. They've been riding "That's Not My Name" -- a great song, mind you -- for THREE YEARS now. It came out in summer/fall of 2007 and they played it on SNL this season. That must be some kind of world record.
Posted by: Bender Bending Rodriguez at June 09, 2010 06:50 PM (5LYVy)
Posted by: Good sense and correct grammar at June 09, 2010 06:56 PM (4WbTI)
Posted by: red speck at June 09, 2010 07:01 PM (/vfpn)
The blasphemy for shock was old and tired years ago. It no longers shocks people and thus there are really only two reactions to it: those who don't give a shit about anything of value and those who get pissed off by it.
I'm the one who gets pissed off about it and, just as with Madonna, the chick won't get a penny from me.
Katy Perry seems a bit confused, perhaps it's the whole "daughter of the pastor" thing, but I don't doubt her sincerity, nor would I argue with her about how cheap it all is. As for the cupcake bra, it's done to be obvious and yet very cutesy at the same time.
If she was rolling around naked without the silly music, then it might be different.
Posted by: jmflynny at June 09, 2010 07:07 PM (LDvBQ)
This is why practically the only pop music I listen to is J-pop.
Posted by: EmilyM. at June 09, 2010 07:08 PM (IHtZy)
Posted by: ®Dß®€W€® at June 09, 2010 07:44 PM (fCzr4)
Posted by: ina_ginalship at June 09, 2010 08:08 PM (5jmI5)
Posted by: Big Mo at June 09, 2010 09:45 PM (Wndl8)
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 09, 2010 09:50 PM (6EZ2b)
Might wanna check out Katy's video "Waking up in Vegas" wherein she stages a mock up of The Last Supper with her as Christ and a bunch of Elvis Impersonators as the disciples...methinks the tart a bit of a hypocrite.
Posted by: g at June 09, 2010 10:46 PM (UnJC2)
There are an amazing number of similarities between these two (aside from Katy being pretty and Lady G. needing a paper bag). Both are very contriversial (gets more airtime and reporting), both are very sexy and scantily clad (again airtime , if you put bag over Lady G's head), neither wrote their music, created theor image, dress or have much to do with creative content (my opinion, of course) and both wore bra cuto that shoot. Katy, cupcakes that shoot whip cream, and Lady G., M16 barrels that shoot nothing. Gun barrel nipples are in no way original...
Looks like competing Music companies to me, who can get the most money from the under 18 market the fastest. Also looks like Music company execs using a formula to create the "Pop Star" of the month, they control everything and make all the money. When they push this crap over talanted artists who have principals when it comes to their music and "art" is it any wonder people don't like big music companies. They are a thing of the past and should die with diginity rather than putting out this crap.
Don't like either's music, but the whip cream from the nipples is much more interesting IMHO.
Posted by: Mostly Annoyed at June 10, 2010 03:28 AM (noO8g)
Lady Gaga's songs sound like a test of the emergency broadcast system. They're seizure inducingly bad.
Posted by: Dirk Diggler at June 10, 2010 05:12 AM (fWMiC)
There was suppose to be a nun in that video?
That's not what nuns wear...
That video seemed to be about an androgynous android dance-fighting with a gang of naked homosexuals...
Posted by: Entropy at June 10, 2010 06:50 AM (IsLT6)
There are many, many musicians that will never be heard.
Bands today seem to make all their money on concerts, not on the records. To that end, a band that sees shit off records doesn't care who gets the records for free without paying, so long as lots of people like it and show up to buy tickets and t-shirts.
It's a good gig. While the mega-stars ability to make gajillions and trash hotel rooms in every state may be stunted, there are a lot of people who'd opt to travel around the country performing concerts for modest audiences for 50 or 70k a year.
Once upon a time - before recordings - musicians made all their money travelling around and doing live performances (and there was still musicians, it was a viable profession).
Thus I think it shall be again. Everything will metastasize. There will eventually be not many mega-stars. What there will be is a terrific wealth of diverse music, recordings of most of it available for free, spread by word of mouth, with the bands making a decent but not extravagent living on live shows.
Posted by: Entropy at June 10, 2010 07:05 AM (IsLT6)
Saw the Ting-Tings on SNL several months ago. I was impressed. Fun for the whole family too.
Posted by: m at June 10, 2010 02:23 PM (BN5i/)
Posted by: tahDeetz at June 10, 2010 05:37 PM (J9Rl5)
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