August 25, 2010
— Purple Avenger Who was the best Star Trek Enterprise captain/science officer combo?
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Posted by: goy at August 25, 2010 05:07 PM (AfU1B)
Posted by: Crusty at August 25, 2010 05:07 PM (qzgbP)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 25, 2010 05:08 PM (dLXsg)
Posted by: Alvin, the candidate, not the chipmunk at August 25, 2010 05:08 PM (BiwiI)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 25, 2010 05:09 PM (dLXsg)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 25, 2010 05:09 PM (rurh0)
Posted by: rdbrewer at August 25, 2010 05:10 PM (X+sda)
Posted by: Doug Winship at August 25, 2010 05:10 PM (6WjQu)
Posted by: OGRE at August 25, 2010 05:11 PM (bgcml)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 25, 2010 05:12 PM (dLXsg)
Posted by: shropshirelad at August 25, 2010 05:12 PM (vmLDs)
Posted by: ChicagoJedi at August 25, 2010 05:12 PM (WZFkG)
I swear, if you're not in the basement buggerin' a poor pudding cup, you're down there gettin' your geek on with Dungeons & Dragons or Star Trek or Lord of the Rings or some weird-ass Japanese cartoon porn.
I say we need more threads about boobies and beer. Who's with me????
Posted by: Original Mikey at August 25, 2010 05:13 PM (Av4L9)
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson Airplane at August 25, 2010 05:13 PM (kcqZS)
Posted by: Juicer at August 25, 2010 05:13 PM (qP4jZ)
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Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at August 25, 2010 05:14 PM (YPivX)
Posted by: Miss Fluffy McNutter at August 25, 2010 05:14 PM (xMSXs)
Janeway was too politically correct. Archer wasn't so much. Kirk was just kind of like that uncle you have who always shows up drunk to the 4th of july family get together.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 25, 2010 05:14 PM (dLXsg)
Posted by: eman at August 25, 2010 05:14 PM (rIm2V)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 25, 2010 05:15 PM (tJjm/)
Posted by: James Tiberius Fucking Kirk and Reanimated Spock at August 25, 2010 05:15 PM (KvY8D)
Any answer other than Kirk/Spock is mind-searingly ghey.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Archer was a major-league pu$$ and T'Pol was the absolute worst rendition of a Vulcan ever; acting as if you're in a perpetual state of PMS is not the Vulcan way. And they had exactly Zero chemistry as a team. "Enterprise" was also Teh Suck, but then so were all the others after TOS.
Posted by: BB at August 25, 2010 05:15 PM (qF8q3)
Posted by: Original Mikey at August 25, 2010 09:13 PM (Av4L9)
YEAH! And let's throw in some flame throwing tanks!
Posted by: Janet Reno at August 25, 2010 05:15 PM (bgcml)
Posted by: rdbrewer at August 25, 2010 05:16 PM (X+sda)
Posted by: Tiger Woods at August 25, 2010 05:16 PM (tJjm/)
Posted by: Putter at August 25, 2010 05:16 PM (PU/bC)
Posted by: runningrn at August 25, 2010 05:16 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 25, 2010 09:14 PM (dLXsg)
Hey, scotch and sexual assault are two of the great joys of life.
Posted by: Ted Kennedy at August 25, 2010 05:16 PM (bgcml)
Posted by: Gay Spock at August 25, 2010 05:17 PM (kxQZx)
Any chance the story gets traction here, including a scoreboard update tallying violence by peace-loving progressives versus violence by teabagging racists.
Posted by: Blogluddite at August 25, 2010 05:17 PM (hRsjI)
Posted by: HT at August 25, 2010 05:18 PM (1EJIj)
Posted by: Tiger Woods at August 25, 2010 05:19 PM (tJjm/)
And not seeing anything about this story over at TalkingPointsMemo, though Hoft reports that Powers (Carnahan fire bomber) blogs there under the name “Ripper McCord.” Good grief.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 25, 2010 05:19 PM (bgcml)
Posted by: rdbrewer at August 25, 2010 05:19 PM (X+sda)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 25, 2010 05:21 PM (dLXsg)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 25, 2010 05:21 PM (tJjm/)
Posted by: R2-D2 at August 25, 2010 05:21 PM (kxQZx)
Posted by: t-bird at August 25, 2010 05:21 PM (FcR7P)
BTW, which one of you moronettes is this?
What kind of mother names her daughter "Colondra"? Sounds like some sort of treatment for constipation.
Posted by: Miss Fluffy McNutter at August 25, 2010 05:22 PM (xMSXs)
Posted by: ChicagoJedi at August 25, 2010 05:22 PM (WZFkG)
Posted by: eman at August 25, 2010 05:23 PM (rIm2V)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 25, 2010 05:23 PM (tJjm/)
BTW, which one of you moronettes is this?
Well that's my city but that ain't me!
I like the charge-- 'driving with inappropriate alertness'.
!!!!!!
Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 25, 2010 05:23 PM (NGqy5)
Can we all just pretend that Enterprise never happened? At least Jeri Ryan had a little bit of personality and talent if teh boobies are your biggest draw.
Temporal Cold War my ass.
Posted by: Asher at August 25, 2010 05:23 PM (W7N+e)
Posted by: Doug Winship at August 25, 2010 05:24 PM (6WjQu)
From Original Mikey's link:
when officers noticed that HamiltonÂ’s pants were unbuttoned. And she had a vibrator in her lap. Questioned by cops, Hamilton admitted to engaging in auto erotic manipulation, and revealed that she had also been watching a porno movie that was playing on the laptop of a friend in the passenger seat
Ha! Ha! Well, she was in a car! Oh, and thank God she wasn't using the piece of the crack pipe that was found in her purse to pleasure herself!
Posted by: runningrn at August 25, 2010 05:24 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 25, 2010 05:24 PM (tJjm/)
Posted by: BB at August 25, 2010 05:24 PM (qF8q3)
Posted by: YRM (The Youngest Ace Commenter-Go Rays!) at August 25, 2010 05:24 PM (38UQ3)
Posted by: whatever at August 25, 2010 05:25 PM (CkWqy)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 25, 2010 05:26 PM (tJjm/)
For the record: there was and is only ONE Star Trek, and it doesn't involve any Feminist Female Captains or Number Ones spouting PC gibberish.
Hear hear.
Posted by: BB at August 25, 2010 05:26 PM (qF8q3)
He's like "What should I do?", and Data's like "Analyze em", and Worf's like "Kill 'em", and Riker's like "Beard 'em", and Jordi's like "Creep em out!", and Troi's like "Get in their heads", and Obrian's like "Teleport em", and Dr Crusher's like "Heal em", and Wesly's like "Is this a leech?", and Whoopi's like "Serve em drinks", and Tasha Yar's like "Bang em!", and Pulaski's like "Be a lesser liked Doctor", and Reginald says "Be a pussy!"
Then ole Picard stands up, straightens his jacket, nods a couple times, takes a sip of tea, and says "Make it so."
Posted by: brando at August 25, 2010 05:26 PM (9eRs4)
Yea, but hotness counts.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 25, 2010 05:27 PM (dLXsg)
Posted by: ChicagoJedi at August 25, 2010 05:27 PM (WZFkG)
Posted by: nickless at August 25, 2010 05:27 PM (MMC8r)
Spock could kill a man with his bare hands, build computers from scratch in technological-wasteland societies, and hypnotize women just by looking at them.
Together, they took down entire planetary civilizations. Literally.
You're gonna tell me Dr. Sam "Enlightened Sensitive Guy" Beckett and SuzyTheBlowUpDoll In The 22nd Century can compete with them?
Fuck no.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at August 25, 2010 05:28 PM (KvY8D)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 25, 2010 05:28 PM (tJjm/)
Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at August 25, 2010 05:28 PM (ZqxmO)
Posted by: NJRob at August 25, 2010 05:28 PM (nKjkt)
Posted by: eman at August 25, 2010 05:29 PM (rIm2V)
Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at August 25, 2010 05:29 PM (ZqxmO)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 25, 2010 05:29 PM (tJjm/)
They did it, ya know.
Sisko and Dax are solid runners-up. And for some reason I'm thinking they DID do it in one ep.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at August 25, 2010 05:30 PM (KvY8D)
Posted by: badabing, badaboom, badabang at August 25, 2010 05:30 PM (VNi/L)
Posted by: rdbrewer at August 25, 2010 05:30 PM (X+sda)
Yea, but hotness counts.
...which is another reason why I would vote for William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy in their prime. As for character development, you don't have to develop when you're already perfect.
Posted by: BB at August 25, 2010 05:31 PM (qF8q3)
Posted by: Stan at August 25, 2010 05:31 PM (VQ7Ec)
Posted by: rdbrewer at August 25, 2010 05:32 PM (X+sda)
And that has exactly what to do with one of two crappy Star Trek series? Nothing.
And you can blame 52 percent of Americans with stars in their eyes and unicorns crapping in their brains for Obama.
Posted by: Asher at August 25, 2010 05:32 PM (W7N+e)
Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at August 25, 2010 05:33 PM (ZqxmO)
Posted by: NJRob at August 25, 2010 05:34 PM (nKjkt)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 25, 2010 05:34 PM (tJjm/)
Posted by: eman at August 25, 2010 05:34 PM (rIm2V)
Posted by: ChicagoJedi at August 25, 2010 05:35 PM (WZFkG)
Posted by: Sven Svenson, Really Pissed Off Hobo Zombie at August 25, 2010 05:35 PM (aFgvs)
My only problem with the archer /T'pal thing was archer seemed like he agonized over every frigging decision he had to make, and then you had T/pal constantly pissing in his wheaties when he finally did make a decision. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind slipping T'pal the ol' captains log, but I think Kirk and spock dished out some major mayhem, and left more enemy ships in ruins than the others did.
I would like to give Sisko and Major Kira some honorable mention, both were very fucking bad ass.
Posted by: Berserker at August 25, 2010 05:36 PM (gWHrG)
Posted by: Bruce at August 25, 2010 05:37 PM (9gRME)
Posted by: ChicagoJedi at August 25, 2010 05:37 PM (WZFkG)
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at August 25, 2010 05:37 PM (KvY8D)
Posted by: conanthelibertarian at August 25, 2010 05:37 PM (Rxmu6)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 25, 2010 05:37 PM (tJjm/)
Posted by: Fred Kwan at August 25, 2010 05:37 PM (SwkdU)
Who was the best Star Trek Enterprise captain/science officer combo?
You wingers are such a bunch of over aged, without a life, pathetic losers.
Good for the laffs, tho.
Posted by: Ripper McCord at August 25, 2010 05:37 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: rdbrewer at August 25, 2010 05:38 PM (X+sda)
Trifecta win, babe. Posted by: Bruce
I thought it was duo. Hamilton Joe Frank and Reynolds.
Posted by: sandbagger at August 25, 2010 05:39 PM (Dnifx)
Posted by: Putter at August 25, 2010 09:16 PM (PU/bC)
"Just how many people are in there, anyway?"
Posted by: Timothy S. Carlson at August 25, 2010 05:39 PM (u2dhQ)
I gotta go with 1701-D as the ugliest. Looked like a floor buffer.
Posted by: Gran at August 25, 2010 05:41 PM (kmmbv)
Never give up! Never surrender!
That's a hell of a thing. Posted by: Fred Kwan
My favorite part was the security officer that never got a last name because he died during the teaser (opening of the show before title credits)
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 25, 2010 05:42 PM (1O93r)
Posted by: NJRob at August 25, 2010 05:42 PM (nKjkt)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 25, 2010 05:42 PM (tJjm/)
Posted by: rdbrewer at August 25, 2010 05:42 PM (X+sda)
Posted by: eman at August 25, 2010 05:44 PM (rIm2V)
Posted by: Gwen DeMarco at August 25, 2010 05:44 PM (SwkdU)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 25, 2010 05:44 PM (tJjm/)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 25, 2010 05:45 PM (tJjm/)
though Igor was more of a science experiment than a science officer ... kind of like John Holdren.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 25, 2010 05:45 PM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: ChicagoJedi at August 25, 2010 05:46 PM (WZFkG)
Posted by: Countrysquire at August 25, 2010 05:47 PM (tX0bg)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 25, 2010 05:47 PM (tJjm/)
Posted by: alexthedude at August 25, 2010 05:48 PM (X2eGz)
Posted by: ChicagoJedi at August 25, 2010 05:48 PM (WZFkG)
Posted by: Bruce at August 25, 2010 05:48 PM (9gRME)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 25, 2010 05:48 PM (tJjm/)
Posted by: eman at August 25, 2010 05:49 PM (rIm2V)
Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at August 25, 2010 05:49 PM (SwkdU)
Invader Zim should set GIR up with a DoD contract for that sutff...
Posted by: alexthedude at August 25, 2010 09:48 PM (X2eGz)
I MADE IT MYSELF! I agree that it would be the greatest weapon out troops could possess right now.
Posted by: paranoidpyro at August 25, 2010 05:50 PM (xjUGr)
Chipolte and the Klingon wench.
Yea yea she was the chief engineer, but she was Haught once they fixed her teeth.
Posted by: Paladin at August 25, 2010 05:50 PM (bW9IA)
Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at August 25, 2010 05:50 PM (9cflz)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 25, 2010 05:50 PM (rurh0)
I'm surprised no one picked Willis Davidge and Jeriba "Jerry" Shigan.
That's because Mickey Mouse is one big stupid dope.
Posted by: BB at August 25, 2010 05:50 PM (qF8q3)
Posted by: Discount Electronics Store owner at August 25, 2010 05:51 PM (SwkdU)
Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at August 25, 2010 09:49 PM (SwkdU)
Pleeeease. Baretta and his cockatoo put them to shame.
Robert Blake should have stuck with the cockatoo.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 25, 2010 05:51 PM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 25, 2010 05:52 PM (tJjm/)
Posted by: Bruce at August 25, 2010 05:52 PM (9gRME)
I found Tuvok to be irresistibly handsome and charming.
Worf, on the other hand was surly, had a giant ass and forced our crew to eat nothing but organic vegetables.
Posted by: President Toonces at August 25, 2010 05:53 PM (554T5)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 25, 2010 05:53 PM (rurh0)
Kirk is a brilliantly human, engaging, and even slightly tragic character from the very first time we see him, when he is agonizing over the decision he knows he must make to kill his best friend Gary Mitchell. Throughout the series you can see him struggling to keep an internal balance between his supreme confidence and competence, and the lure of a possessive, almost selfish nature. His development is very subtle, but when you trace the growing maturity of the character through the series and movies, as he struggles through loss, loneliness, personal and professional crisis, and redemption, the depth of James T. Kirk is startling.
William Shatner took a figure that could easily have been a two-dimensional cipher and made him into one of the best characters in all of Star Trek.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at August 25, 2010 05:53 PM (KvY8D)
@157 The sad thing is, I actually remember that show.
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 25, 2010 09:37 PM (tJjm/)
BJ and the Bear was a good show...tooling around in his semi...good enough for a kid, anyway 
Posted by: Lace Wigs at August 25, 2010 05:54 PM (A8VBw)
Posted by: Joe Biden at August 25, 2010 05:54 PM (tJjm/)
My error. I meant D.
Now, the original E is a different story. It's still in the Smithsonian.
Posted by: Gran at August 25, 2010 05:54 PM (kmmbv)
But I bet you've seen every second of that Steaming Pile O' Unfunny Shit "Seinfeld"....
Posted by: FORGER - Racist Czar at August 25, 2010 05:55 PM (10QH2)
Posted by: Bruce at August 25, 2010 05:56 PM (9gRME)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 25, 2010 05:56 PM (tJjm/)
Hey, wait a minute, it's a trick question. There were many Star Trek series, but only one series named Star Trek Enterprise.
Posted by: zmdavid at August 25, 2010 05:56 PM (dKj45)
William Shatner took a figure that could easily have been a two-dimensional cipher and made him into one of the best characters in all of Star Trek.
Remember how sad he was at the end of "Requiem for Methuselah?"
Posted by: BB at August 25, 2010 05:57 PM (qF8q3)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 25, 2010 05:57 PM (tJjm/)
Posted by: CoolHand at August 25, 2010 05:57 PM (Z6/H5)
Posted by: FeralCat at August 25, 2010 05:58 PM (m3jxd)
William Shatner took a figure that could easily have been a
two-dimensional cipher and made him into one of the best characters in
all of Star Trek.
Remember how sad he was at the end of "Requiem for Methuselah?"
and "City on the Edge of Forever"...
Posted by: Gran at August 25, 2010 05:58 PM (kmmbv)
Nah! "Sweet" Polly was a real bitch!
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 25, 2010 09:57 PM (tJjm/)
I think she was Katy Couric's role model.Posted by: Ed Anger at August 25, 2010 05:59 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 25, 2010 05:59 PM (tJjm/)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 25, 2010 06:01 PM (tJjm/)
Naw they were a threesome. I had that single of theirs..
suddenly figures out the reason for all those lonely nights as a teenager
and finally "gets" At Seventeen. Posted by: Bruce
Wait a minute they were a quintet. Hamilton, Joe, Frank, Ann, Reynolds.
Posted by: sandbagger at August 25, 2010 06:02 PM (Dnifx)
Alternate reality combat Picard/Data from Yesterday's Enterprise. That one actually had balls.
I've always wished the entire series had been like that episode.
(There could have been a single ep in which Picard is shown to a horrific alternate-reality Enterprise-D in which the bridge looks like a hotel lobby, the crew wears Spandex jumpsuits, the ship's therapist is among the primary command crew, and everyone spends most of their time jerking off about their feelings in Ten-Forward because nothing ever really happens outside of the occasional Borg invasion.)
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at August 25, 2010 06:03 PM (KvY8D)
So the revivals start and what do they do? It's like doing a cover of My Way. You have to be as different from the original as possible or tempt a comparison that only makes the revival look bad.
For example, in th Picard/Data one They come up with a Shakespearean, pompous, stuck-up, snot-nosed, English, giant, twerp in an attempt to get the stench of Kirk-juice off the role. mega fail.
For the Spock role they come up with a fucking team of characters. the robot, whopie, and a couple more i don't remember - that's how good they were.
But you all know this...
Posted by: nine cocounuts at August 25, 2010 06:03 PM (DHNp4)
Eddie Haskell / Beav's Mom
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 25, 2010 10:00 PM (2g2ex)
Greg & Mrs. BradyMarcia & Mr. Brady
Look it up on Usenet
Posted by: Ed Anger at August 25, 2010 06:03 PM (7+pP9)
William Shatner took a figure that could easily have been a two-dimensional cipher and made him into one of the best characters in all of Star Trek
its a trap !
actually, considering the era, and the limits of TV at the time ,,thats true
Posted by: meleager at August 25, 2010 06:03 PM (Y2/mt)
Posted by: eman at August 25, 2010 06:03 PM (rIm2V)
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 25, 2010 06:04 PM (2g2ex)
Posted by: Sven Svenson, Really Pissed Off Hobo Zombie at August 25, 2010 06:04 PM (aFgvs)
Posted by: sandbagger at August 25, 2010 10:02 PM (Dnifx)
What about Diana, Ross and the Supremes?
or Paul, Simon and Art Garfunkel?
or Tony, Orlando and Dawn?
Posted by: zmdavid at August 25, 2010 06:04 PM (dKj45)
Alternate reality combat Picard/Data from Yesterday's Enterprise. That one actually had balls.
They had to go to an alternate reality to grow them. Kinda sad.
Posted by: BB at August 25, 2010 06:05 PM (qF8q3)
That's why DS9 was my favorite spinoff. Towards the end of its run, especially during the Dominion War, it was a lot like that. Lots of very un-Roddenberryesque stuff happening.
Posted by: Gran at August 25, 2010 06:05 PM (kmmbv)
But I bet you've seen every second of that Steaming Pile O' Unfunny Shit "Seinfeld"....
Many, many times.
Posted by: Countrysquire at August 25, 2010 06:05 PM (tX0bg)
Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 25, 2010 06:06 PM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 25, 2010 06:08 PM (2g2ex)
Posted by: eman at August 25, 2010 06:08 PM (rIm2V)
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 25, 2010 10:08 PM (2g2ex)
Winner! Don't forget when he turned it into the time machine.
Posted by: paranoidpyro at August 25, 2010 06:10 PM (xjUGr)
You just know after all that Amok Time business Kirk snuck back to Vulcan and banged Spock's wife
Its ...not.. that way... I ...just had
to
EXPERIENCE
a
Vulcan
Posted by: meleager at August 25, 2010 06:12 PM (Y2/mt)
Koon...uuuhhtttt... kkaaalll........iiffeeeee!!!!
Posted by: Gran at August 25, 2010 06:12 PM (kmmbv)
I remember, at the time the Dominion War started ramping up, a TV reviewer saying something to the effect of "wow, this isn't an alternate reality or a time-travel thing; they're not going to wrap the entire war up in the season premiere with a bullshit deus ex machina; this war is actually happening!")
Kind of a sad comment on what TNG had gotten us used to.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at August 25, 2010 06:12 PM (KvY8D)
Posted by: Cynewulf at August 25, 2010 06:14 PM (zLyg8)
Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 25, 2010 06:22 PM (Qp4DT)
Kirk was there to fuck your women, shoot you in the face if you pissed him off, and wrap up Serious Bizness in about 47 minutes of episode time. William Shatner rode that horse for forty-odd years and became the most successful bad actor of the Television Age.
Spock? The perfect foil, henchman, and sidekick.
And the two of them were saving the galaxy before I was born. In some realm of imagination, they're still at it, along with 400-odd crew and a ship. Because a crew without a ship is nothing.
Posted by: SGT Dan at August 25, 2010 06:24 PM (p6OcK)
I actually tried to think of an improved pair, even outside the series. B5 didn't have a science officer. Farscape didn't have a captain.
It just *is*. The only way to do better is to come up with an even MORE ass-kicking duo for a future series, waiting to be made.
But I doubt anyone would consider a more ass-kicking pairing to be *believable*.
Maybe Shepard/Liara from Mass Effect (video game), if you watched nothing but epic action movies and took speed while writing the scripts.
Posted by: Merovign, Strong on His Mountain at August 25, 2010 06:24 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Clete Orris at August 25, 2010 06:28 PM (6QC41)
Posted by: Kelly B at August 25, 2010 07:19 PM (OihnY)
Gotta love the Ostriches with their heads in the sand
Only one Star Trek???
I guess by your thinking there was/is only one ford(model A)
only one Harley (1908? single cylinder)
only one airplane (the Wright flyer)
etc,etc,etc
Grow up people!
Archer /T'pol
Posted by: NuckingFutz at August 25, 2010 07:21 PM (F+hn7)
Please, B5 had a lot charm, with its home-computer CGIs and all, but DS9 was:
(1) not a knock-off of B5;
(2) had really good actors in all the key roles;
(3) had the best recurring characters in all of the ST universe and in much of TV of any kind--Garak, Dukat, Weyoun, Martok, Morn, etc.
(4) showed what the other STs had only talked about (and sometimes tried to deny), namely that space is dangerous and that large-scale galactic war was not that unusual;
(5) carried off multi-part story arcs better than most free TV and all other sf TV; and
(6) had the best sense of humor of any of the STs and better than almost any other sf.
Posted by: Leo Ladenson at August 25, 2010 07:23 PM (5+Fvb)
Posted by: Muppet Fart at August 25, 2010 07:31 PM (kah2u)
Archer/T'Pol - absolutely. Because you know if these two ever got it on the Universe would change. Spock?Kirk? No. Picard or Janeway with whomever? No. But Archer could have nailed that Vulcan bitch and we all know it!
That's how it should've been....
Posted by: redstatedeb at August 25, 2010 09:13 PM (ykmvs)
Blake/Avon
for the pure best friend/worst enemy/pure win combination!
Posted by: Mark S. at August 25, 2010 10:00 PM (NNsqZ)
The wars are real. They happen even when nobody much wants them to. People die, people are maimed. Some people are certifiable. Section 31 is behind the scenes, manipulating the hell out of everyone, trying to keep the PC veneer on it all.
Problem is, Sisko is a pussy. No other way to say it. He lets circumstances shove him around. When he wins, it's because of the smarts and ruthlessness of his underlings. When he loses, he dissolves into a whiny bitch.
So, awesome seriew, but the capt can't measure up to Kirk, or even janeway.
Posted by: Danby at August 25, 2010 10:16 PM (2W4DZ)
Posted by: Cowboy at August 25, 2010 10:30 PM (8OqsF)
Excuse me???
Posted by: Gilligan at August 26, 2010 02:53 AM (VMcEw)
Posted by: blue at August 26, 2010 04:30 AM (pnaAh)
<Q>I'm totally with Sandbagger on this one:
Blake/Avon
</Q>
I'm on board with this, but would also like to push Avon/Orak
Posted by: TheSev at August 26, 2010 05:18 AM (eIXPw)
Posted by: PansyBrigade at August 26, 2010 05:24 AM (FY+nO)
(Oh, wait -- Torres was the engineer, not the science officer. So never mind.)
(Besides, I promised myself a long time ago that I wouldn't get sucked into these "who was the best ... " Star Trek discussions ever again.)
(And Rachel Garrett was the best Enterprise captain.)
Posted by: FireHorse at August 26, 2010 06:02 AM (sWynj)
Posted by: Arkay at August 26, 2010 07:31 AM (TnUAk)
80 Archer?
Can we all just pretend that Enterprise never happened? At least Jeri Ryan had a little bit of personality and talent if teh boobies are your biggest draw.
Jeri Ryan, for all of her "assets" caused Barak Obama to be in the White House. If she didn't exist, he'd still be a legislator in Illinois still voting "present".
Posted by: Max Entropy at August 26, 2010 12:26 PM (la188)
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Posted by: TennDon at August 25, 2010 05:06 PM (o6Yv2)