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April 16, 2014

Public: Hey, Can We Get a Timetable for When You'll Be Releasing the Numbers for Actual Obamacare Sign-Ups?
Jay Carney: Nah, Bro
— Ace

Wheels are in motion, though, and the check is in the mail.

Â“I don't have a timetable for when that would happen,Â” he added.
Carney also noted that the timeline for releasing demographic information and details, such as who among the 7.5 million have paid their first month's insurance premium, is different than the timing for the administration's push to have the Senate confirm Sylvia Mathews Burwell as the next HHS secretary.

I Currently Have No Estimates

...as to whether my promise to not do That Thing in your mouth is still operative.

Oh shit. I've gone and done it.

M'bad.

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1 MOST TRANSPARENT ADMINSTRATION EVER!. Also first.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 16, 2014 11:15 AM (HDwDg)

2 Â“I don't have a timetable for when that would happen,Â” he added. Universal follow-up question for Carney: "Is that because you are corrupt or because you are stupid?"

Posted by: AmishDude at April 16, 2014 11:16 AM (T0NGe)

3 Universal follow-up question for Carney: "Is that because you are corrupt or because you are stupid?" Posted by: AmishDude at April 16, 2014 03:16 PM (T0NGe) "Yes, hey did you see the pics of me and my family!"

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 16, 2014 11:16 AM (HDwDg)

4 Also first. Act like you've been there before.

Posted by: Barry Sanders, handin' the ball to the ref, all casual-like at April 16, 2014 11:17 AM (T0NGe)

5 We don't have actual numbers but, believe me, they are so awesome you guys!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 16, 2014 11:17 AM (+lsX1)

6 ...meet the new boss, same as the old boss

Posted by: RUReadingthis at April 16, 2014 11:17 AM (1xtIS)

7 Public: Hey, Can We Get a Timetable for When You'll Be Releasing the Numbers for Actual Obamacare Sign-Ups?
Jay Carney: Nah, Bro
MSM: Hey, that's cool. Don't mean to nag you about it. We're still BFFs, right?

Posted by: Xander Crews at April 16, 2014 11:17 AM (zST0a)

8 All you need to know is remain calm. All is well.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 16, 2014 11:18 AM (wTgwx)

9 Universal follow-up question for Carney: "Is that because you are corrupt or because you are stupid? Yes.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2014 11:18 AM (xorT2)

10 This admin has become about building their own reality where all the measurables say everything they do is awesome. Unfortunately, they insist on dragging us into it as well.

Posted by: talldave2 at April 16, 2014 11:18 AM (lNW+B)

11 Oh, nevermind that... anybody looking for Commie propaganda posters? Cuz I can get you a deal.

Posted by: tu3031 at April 16, 2014 11:19 AM (nsQhi)

12 AMA warning doctors that they are going to get screwed by low income patients who cant be depended on to make monthly payments. "Section 1412 of the health law gives consumers a 90-day Â“grace periodÂ” before their subsidized plan is canceled for nonpayment. But insurers only have to keep paying doctors and hospitals for 30 days. The next 60 days of care are on the care provider. The AMA says Â“it could pose a significant financial risk for medical practices.Â”" more at JWF in the nic

Posted by: McCool at April 16, 2014 11:19 AM (TQxRy)

13 My friends....

Posted by: John McCain at April 16, 2014 11:19 AM (Aif/5)

14 Ignore that iceberg. Obama Are is definitely not sinking.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 16, 2014 11:19 AM (wTgwx)

15 Why, the Census Dept is cooking up those numbers even as we speak.

Posted by: George Tirebiter at April 16, 2014 11:19 AM (91kn2)

16 We do have an estimate for how long it will take to gather all the Lerner emails Congress asked for: 7 to 10 years. We think.

Posted by: IRS at April 16, 2014 11:19 AM (ZPrif)

17 we're getting somewhere. A year or two ago, he would have accused the questioner of working or fox news and then had their press pass banned.

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 16, 2014 11:19 AM (DTVYh)

18 Beautiful, Ace.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 16, 2014 11:19 AM (IdOTf)

19 All you need to know is remain calm. All is well. Remain Calm & Slice Like A Fucking Viking!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2014 11:20 AM (xorT2)

20 Ace is downright terse today. Terse and perturbed.

Posted by: eleven at April 16, 2014 11:20 AM (GXZgZ)

21 you know, a special prosecutor would help solve this issue. and others.

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 16, 2014 11:20 AM (DTVYh)

22 Further follow up: What exactly were you celebrating since it seems the 7.x million number seems so meaningless?

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at April 16, 2014 11:20 AM (9Bdcz)

23 At least he didn't get all snippy and say, "Don't go there!"

Posted by: Lizzy at April 16, 2014 11:21 AM (IdOTf)

24 Carney simply means he doesn't have a timetable for when the next set of books are to be cooked. Not one word of their provided "facts and numbers" will ever be believable, so it doesn't matter much to me. It's not like the MFM will research and ask any investigative questions about their validity anyway. They are all liars extraordinaire. Unprecedented liars, as a matter of fact.

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 16, 2014 11:21 AM (tsGZY)

25 It's cool, though. Any day now Prince Reebus will release a mildly devastating anti-obamacare ad on the internet.

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at April 16, 2014 11:21 AM (yFbI+)

26 How about a time frame for when the Russkies are out of Ukraine? When the Benghazi terrorists will be brought to justice? When Holder will comply with that subpoena?

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 16, 2014 11:21 AM (wTgwx)

27 Look over there! Evil Republicans have declared war on their binders full of women.

Posted by: National Media at April 16, 2014 11:22 AM (yFb77)

28 So, Mr. Carney, would you say that most of the bureaucracy simply isn't good at their jobs, or would you say they are incompetent?

Posted by: grognard at April 16, 2014 11:22 AM (/29Nl)

29 Ya think Jay Carney ever had a callous on his girl hands? Pencil burn maybe...

Posted by: Mr. Dave at April 16, 2014 11:22 AM (bX7ov)

30 Breaking: MSNBC reporting that earlier today Obama administration spokesman Jay Carney wore a foulard print Hugo Boss tie ($195) from Tysons Galleria.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 16, 2014 11:22 AM (+lsX1)

31 NUMBERS ARE RACIST, YOU TEABAG NAZI!!!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 16, 2014 11:22 AM (wtvvX)

32 Rush did a big segment on this very topic today. The administration... rather than use the enrollment numbers from the Insurance Industry.... is using the CENSUS BUREAU to poll folks out there so they can come with the much more *useful* number of uninsured people. Which will.... of course.... go down because..... in 2009 control of the the Census Bureau was moved from the Commerce Secretary to "direct control of the White House".

Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2014 11:23 AM (nELVU)

33 Not only did Obama do that thing in your mouth that he promised he wouldn't, you're also a racist for not thanking him enough for lying to you for his own benefit. Because it's actually good for you to swallow it, you just are too stupid to understand that blowing a load in your mouth is a favor to you.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at April 16, 2014 11:23 AM (eRigN)

34 It's really, really hard to find all of Lerner's email. Maybe we could do it in 5 years if we rushed the redaction. But you rush redaction and you get low quality redaction. We do have exciting news about our new program that scours all public social media to see if you are lying about your taxes. That program can now produce all social media posts by any taxpayer in under 15 seconds. It's weird how the emails from one employee can be so much harder to locate than all the social media posts from hundreds of millions of American taxpayers. But sometimes life is weird like that.

Posted by: IRS at April 16, 2014 11:24 AM (ZPrif)

35 We'll I am sure someone at the RNC will answer this with a devastating tweet!

Posted by: blaster at April 16, 2014 11:24 AM (4+AaH)

36 Mr. Carney, given the results of not only Obamacare but other programs in the Obama administration, would you say that the outcomes were deliberate or at the whim of fortune?

Posted by: grognard at April 16, 2014 11:24 AM (/29Nl)

37 At least he didn't get all snippy and say, "Don't go there!" - Buddy.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 16, 2014 11:24 AM (wTgwx)

38 See first they have to print out all the registration forms and then a crack team of counters (recruited from the ranks of Democrat affiliated election vote counters) will begin the meticulous process of counting each sheet of paper. Because everyone knows databases don't have the ability to count individual unique records. Nope. Not at all.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at April 16, 2014 11:24 AM (RZ8pf)

39 Serious you guys, Obamacare is the permanent enduring unalterable law of the land, so what difference, at this point, does it make what the numbers are?

Posted by: Jake Arney at April 16, 2014 11:24 AM (o3MSL)

40 10 So true. We need a national divorce so these fuckers can lie to each other rather than lie to the rest of us.

Posted by: BS Inc at April 16, 2014 11:25 AM (kNjG7)

41
Let me straighten you meatheads out once and for all.
We have oodles and oodles of people signed up.
GOT IT!

Posted by: Joe Bidenthe smart, serious and thoughtful one at April 16, 2014 11:25 AM (mETGQ)

42 >>Ya think Jay Carney ever had a callous on his girl hands? Pencil burn maybe... Posted by: Mr. Dave Probably masturbated enough to get callouses.

Posted by: Aviator at April 16, 2014 11:25 AM (3rrMW)

43 I don't get to watch Carney in action, being dead and all. Tell me, does he skip from side to side as he speaks?

Posted by: Zombie George Orwell at April 16, 2014 11:25 AM (nEIMV)

44 13 AMA warning doctors that they are going to get screwed by low income patients who cant be depended on to make monthly payments.

"Section 1412 of the health law gives consumers a 90-day Â“grace periodÂ” before their subsidized plan is canceled for nonpayment. But insurers only have to keep paying doctors and hospitals for 30 days. The next 60 days of care are on the care provider. The AMA says Â“it could pose a significant financial risk for medical practices.Â”"
***

Balderdash! That's as silly a notion as worrying about subprime lending, sir!

Posted by: B at April 16, 2014 11:25 AM (twiRb)

45 It doesn't matter if they release numbers or not. You can take it to the bank that anything they put out will be a lie.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at April 16, 2014 11:26 AM (T2V/1)

46 >>>>Oh shit! I' ve gone and done it. That's alright, Ace, it's easier to get forgiveness than permisssion. Next time, try "just the tip.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 16, 2014 11:26 AM (8MjqI)

47 Mr. Carney, would you say that the facts and statistics are developed to meet a public need, or would you say you're making shit up to fool people?

Posted by: grognard at April 16, 2014 11:26 AM (/29Nl)

48 Ace, if you are going to come in our mouths, at least give each of us a puppy to calm us afterwards.

Posted by: Pug Form 4868 at April 16, 2014 11:26 AM (8c12T)

49 Let me straighten you meatheads out once and for all. We have oodles and oodles of people signed up. GOT IT! Posted by: Joe Bidenthe smart, serious and thoughtful one at April 16, 2014 03:25 PM (mETGQ) ---- So... youre saying this was worth it too Joe???

Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2014 11:27 AM (nELVU)

50 Call me crazy, but isn't the gubamint like a corporation, and taxpayers are the shareholders with Obama as the CEO? How in God's name can Obama and friends go after corporate heads that are accused of cheating their shareholders or obfuscating data that has a negative impact on the corporation when he is engaged in the same behavior himself? Why are we, the shareholders, not screaming for his removal? What's it going to take, Congress, to do your job and remove this lawless asshole? I know, I'm a dreamer. Sigh.

Posted by: runningrn at April 16, 2014 11:27 AM (o6g4X)

51 Carney would make a great Obama adminstration official. No, wait...

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 16, 2014 11:27 AM (659DL)

52 One Mississippi, two Mississippi, three Mississippi, shoot I lost count ima gonna haveta start over. One Mississippi...

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at April 16, 2014 11:27 AM (RZ8pf)

53 Ya think Jay Carney ever had a callous on his girl hands? Pencil burn maybe...
Posted by: Mr. Dave
***

On his hands? No........

Posted by: B at April 16, 2014 11:27 AM (twiRb)

54 Posted by: McCool at April 16, 2014 03:19 PM (TQxRy) HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAH HHAHAHAHAHAAH Meh, AMA supported this POS because they though it'd drive up their business. At least it bites them in the ass. (What a silly part of the law.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 16, 2014 11:27 AM (HDwDg)

55 Funny, when I lived in "the years of living dangerously?" I was hammered with "there are results, and excuses- nothing in between..."

Posted by: backhoe at April 16, 2014 11:27 AM (ULH4o)

56 Probably masturbated enough to get callouses. Urban legend. Um, a friend told me so.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2014 11:28 AM (xorT2)

57 We'll I am sure someone at the RNC will answer this with a devastating tweet! Posted by: blaster at April 16, 2014 03:24 PM (4+AaH) Well, it will be a devastating, but moderate, tweet in both English and Spanish because we don't want to lose the undecided or the ~~illegals~~ undocumented voters.

Posted by: Hrothgar GOPe Spokeperson at April 16, 2014 11:28 AM (o3MSL)

58 Any CEO that obfuscated data, lacked any transparency, made ridiculous promises and broke them, didn't produce positive results and then cooked the books would be run out of the corporation on a rail and would possibly even go to jail. Yeesh.

Posted by: runningrn at April 16, 2014 11:28 AM (o6g4X)

59 It doesn't matter if they release numbers or not. You can take it to the bank that anything they put out will be a lie.

Posted by: Vic at April 16, 2014 03:26 PM (T2V/1)

Yep. The 7 million is an outright fabrication, and yet recent arguments against Obamacare seem to accept it as stipulated fact. Like 7 million isn't what was promised. Well, no shit. But we aren't at 7 million.

We shouldn't even be accepting their premise, not just arguing that it isn't good enough.

Posted by: grognard at April 16, 2014 11:28 AM (/29Nl)

60 Thanks for keeping me relevant, Jay.

Posted by: Capt. Renault at April 16, 2014 11:28 AM (Ua6T/)

61 so, wait, is there a part of obamacare that's active? Or is this a projection.

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 16, 2014 11:28 AM (DTVYh)

62 Ya think Jay Carney ever had a callous on his girl hands?

I'm guessing his hand was his only companion for years, until he started getting high enough in the government-media ruling class to merit attention from similiarly situated ladies.

Posted by: HR at April 16, 2014 11:29 AM (ZKzrr)

63 13 AMA warning doctors that they are going to get screwed by low income patients who cant be depended on to make monthly payments.

"Section 1412 of the health law gives consumers a 90-day Â“grace periodÂ” before their subsidized plan is canceled for nonpayment. But insurers only have to keep paying doctors and hospitals for 30 days. The next 60 days of care are on the care provider. The AMA says Â“it could pose a significant financial risk for medical practices.Â”"
******
You ask me how many weapons i have in my house, i give you monkey for your back.

Posted by: Penfold at April 16, 2014 11:29 AM (Fbt5B)

Verifiable results? You want verifiable results? For going on six years you've been content to accept our lies and embellish them on your own, what the hell is going on?

Posted by: Carney Barker at April 16, 2014 11:29 AM (aq5Dc)

65 >>Meh, AMA supported this POS because they though it'd drive up their business. At least it bites them in the ass. Actually, it is more a case that it is run by a bunch of leftist pricks.

Posted by: Aviator at April 16, 2014 11:29 AM (3rrMW)

66
So... youre saying this was worth it too Joe???

Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2014 03:27 PM (nELVU)

Hell yes it was worth it.

By one jar of paste get the other for the same price.

Posted by: Joe Biden the smart, serious and thoughtful one at April 16, 2014 11:29 AM (mETGQ)

Follow up question: "So if armed militias gathered in D.C. would you give them the numbers?"

Posted by: it worked in Nevada at April 16, 2014 11:29 AM (wAQA5)

68 It's even worse than that, the regime is now directing the census beureo to change the way they collect and report on the surveys they routinely do of healthcare coverage. Don't get me wrong the census data that was used to generate the 30 million unisured canard we have been bombarded with for decades was always dubious but now they are going to cook it in the other direction. Cook the books to force fundamental transformation cook the books again to re-inforce that transformation. The leviathan is wholly corrupt and must be smashed!

Posted by: Kreplach at April 16, 2014 11:30 AM (5TFvk)

69 FoxNews is launching their version of the View, it seems. Show will be called Outnumbered - 4 chicks and a dude. Dude will rotate. Noah Rothman ‏@NoahCRothman Panel shows are definitely the future of cable news. Congrats to all involved. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-launching-new-noon-show-outnumbered/ Â…

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 16, 2014 11:30 AM (ZPrif)

70 Lighten up Ace. Do you have any idea how long it takes unpaid interns to create 7.5MM records. Falsifying takes time yo!

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at April 16, 2014 11:30 AM (H84UO)

71 Dammit. I'm trying to make my snark Steynlike, but it takes too long to type and everyone beats me to the joke.

Posted by: HR at April 16, 2014 11:30 AM (ZKzrr)

72 Any CEO that obfuscated data, lacked any transparency, made ridiculous promises and broke them, didn't produce positive results and then cooked the books would be run out of the corporation on a rail and would possibly even go to jail. Enron.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2014 11:31 AM (xorT2)

73 Note how that 7.5 million number that they pulled from their ass is being banded about as if were THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED!!!!! fact by both sides. Accurate reporting/discussion would state "the alleged" or "the WH claimed" 7.5 million as thus far I've seen no documentation to back up that number --just the say so of the peeps who told us "If you like your plan, you can keep it, period."

Posted by: Dancing Queen at April 16, 2014 11:31 AM (u57y4)

74 Posted by: Aviator at April 16, 2014 03:29 PM (3rrMW) Six, one-half dozen or the other. Moot point really. AMA is down to what 25% of doctors? In an ideal world they're opinion would mean jack shit as they don't represent anyone.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 16, 2014 11:31 AM (HDwDg)

75 Sorry, I couldn' hear you. I have blueberries in my ears.

Posted by: Jay at April 16, 2014 11:31 AM (8MjqI)

76 "I Currently Have No Estimates ...as to whether my promise to not do That Thing in your mouth is still operative. Oh shit. I've gone and done it. M'bad."

I thought it had been decided that That Thing was a desirable "co-benefit".

Posted by: torquewrench at April 16, 2014 11:32 AM (noWW6)

77 Sorry, I couldn' hear you. I have blueberries in my ears. I hate when that happens.

Posted by: eleven at April 16, 2014 11:32 AM (GXZgZ)

78 Any CEO that obfuscated data, lacked any transparency, made ridiculous promises and broke them, didn't produce positive results and then cooked the books would be run out of the corporation on a rail and would possibly even go to jail. Enron. Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2014 03:31 PM (xorT2) You rang?

Posted by: Jon Corzine at April 16, 2014 11:32 AM (o3MSL)

79 >>Urban legend. Um, a friend told me so. What's this "friend's" nickname? "Blisters"?

Posted by: Aviator at April 16, 2014 11:32 AM (3rrMW)

80 FoxNews is launching their version of the View, it seems.
Show will be called Outnumbered - 4 chicks and a dude. Dude will rotate.
***

Pffft. That's been on the Web for years. Oh,wait.....

Posted by: B at April 16, 2014 11:32 AM (twiRb)

81 AMA f*cked over doctors they claim to represent in the name of the often promised but never delivered progressive utopia.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at April 16, 2014 11:32 AM (eRigN)

82 Maybe Carney should have just asked what number would indicate a success so they could more easily goose their numbers to meet it. Then they can "revise" them a few months later when no one is paying attention. That's what they do with all of the economic numbers, right?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 16, 2014 11:33 AM (IdOTf)

83 Enron. Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2014 03:31 PM (xorT2) Not if the board knew they could print their way out of any failure.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 56% more DOOM! at April 16, 2014 11:33 AM (FA3Z7)

84 All blue berries are blueberries.

Posted by: eleven at April 16, 2014 11:33 AM (GXZgZ)

85 I did that all the time at school. "Sorry, I don't have an estimate for when I'll finish the paper". Work, too, when I got out and got a job. "No, boss, I don't have an estimate for when I'll finish playing solitaire".

Posted by: how do you think I became a hobo? at April 16, 2014 11:34 AM (JtwS4)

86 Anybody who gets callouses from masturbating is doing it wrong.

No doubt Jay Carney has callouses from masturbating.

Posted by: Paul Reubens at April 16, 2014 11:34 AM (nEIMV)

87 Hey, we own the doing that thing in your mouth meme. Only we made it grosser.

Posted by: msnbc at April 16, 2014 11:34 AM (hqVUe)

88 Yet another Ukrainian military base being overrun. Myroslava Petsa ‏@myroslavapetsa 2m Shooting in #Mariupol, where pro-Russian gunmen stormed a Ukrainian military base. Reports of 12 wounded Euromaidan PR ‏@EuromaidanPR 24m BREAKING: 200 insurgents trying to storm the military base in #Mariupol, southeastern #Ukraine. 12 ppl are injured @HromadskeTV #Russia

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 16, 2014 11:34 AM (ZPrif)

89 That's 7 million people who just had their identities stolen. And hackers can get that data too.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 16, 2014 11:34 AM (tNrYO)

90 Meh, AMA supported this POS because they though it'd drive up their business. At least it bites them in the ass. AMA is a leftist group. They supported it because they are leftist tools. The more conservative groups, like the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons and the American College of Surgeons did not, and warned their members that this law was a disaster. The AMA stopped representing rank and file doctors many years ago.

Posted by: runningrn at April 16, 2014 11:34 AM (o6g4X)

91 .....4 chicks and a dude. Dude will rotate. Intriguing.....

Posted by: eleven at April 16, 2014 11:35 AM (GXZgZ)

92 Posted by: Dancing Queen at April 16, 2014 03:31 PM (u57y4) Until we master the art of pushing back at the language perversion and lying techniques practiced daily by the libs, we are on the losing side.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 16, 2014 11:35 AM (o3MSL)

93
Any day now Prince Reebus will release a mildly devastating anti-obamacare ad on the internet.
Posted by: Soothsayer

Repeal Obamacare!

Except for the per-existing conditions thing. Gonna keep that.

And the keeping the kids on the parents insurance up until they're old enough for their first prostate exam. Keeping that too.

And the new Medicaid spending and subsidies. Well, we'll let you know about those.

Ooo ooo -- and....

Posted by: Reince "That Man Right Outta My Hair" Priebus

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 16, 2014 11:35 AM (kdS6q)

94 Yeah, and my timetable for jumping Kate Upton's bones is different from the universe's timetable for continued existence.

Posted by: Insane Clown joncelli at April 16, 2014 11:35 AM (RD7QR)

95 "AMA warning doctors that they are going to get screwed by low income
patients who cant be depended on to make monthly payments."

I'm going to invoke the Peggy Noonan Rule here.

Noonan famously bemoans Obama's dangerous abuses -- after having voted for him because of his precise diction and impeccable pants creases.

Similarly, for the AMA to now bitch about Obamacare screwing doctors over, after the AMA having backed Obamacare in the first place, does not sit well.

These people need to sit down with a nice hot steaming mug of shut the fuck up.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 16, 2014 11:35 AM (noWW6)

96 I'm sure they will have those numbers just as soon the next Presidential elections are over.

Posted by: no good deed at April 16, 2014 11:35 AM (ILBCY)

97
FoxNews is launching their version of the View, it seems.
Show will be called Outnumbered - 4 chicks and a dude. Dude will rotate.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 16, 2014 03:30 PM (ZPrif)

Ball gag for the dude?

Posted by: Redtube at April 16, 2014 11:35 AM (mETGQ)

98 The AMA stopped representing rank and file doctors many years ago. Posted by: runningrn at April 16, 2014 03:34 PM (o6g4X) ----- The **nerve** of some people.....

Posted by: AARP at April 16, 2014 11:36 AM (nELVU)

99 Chocolate rations have been increased from 80 grams to 50.

Posted by: Winston at April 16, 2014 11:36 AM (g4CTw)

100 >>Moot point really. AMA is down to what 25% of doctors? In an ideal world they're opinion would mean jack shit as they don't represent anyone. Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) I think it is a fair amount less than that anymore. There really isn't an alternative organization except the various speciality and subspecialty organizations. The general public does not understand that.

Posted by: Aviator at April 16, 2014 11:36 AM (3rrMW)

101 55 Meh, AMA supported this POS because they though it'd drive up their business. At least it bites them in the ass. Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 16, 2014 03:27 PM (HDwDg) -------------------------- It WILL drive up their business because the business of the AMA is strictly political. Doctors, OTOH, will be screwed. Including most of the the small minority of doctors who actually belong to the AMA.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 16, 2014 11:37 AM (dfYL9)

102 Obama: yeah, I totally lied about that thing in your mouth. By the way, they say it tastes like what you eat, so did I taste more like Michelle, Valerie, or Vlad?

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at April 16, 2014 11:37 AM (eRigN)

103 4 chicks and a dude. Dude will rotate. Pivot man? Go on.......

Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2014 11:37 AM (xorT2)

104 >>Sorry, I couldn' hear you. I have blueberries in my ears.>> Go with crabapples in your cheeks.

Posted by: Orr at April 16, 2014 11:38 AM (bX7ov)

105 Posted by: runningrn at April 16, 2014 03:34 PM (o6g4X) Leftist also love to direct the spigot of crony capitalism towards themselves. I'm sure they had multiple reasons for supporting it ranging from "crazy" to "Money money money!" Either way it's fucking them over. Good riddance, I stand by what I said earlier, the AMA's opinion should be rendered to the dustbin they don't represent anyone anymore, certainly not "doctors." (which is a diverse group.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 16, 2014 11:38 AM (HDwDg)

106 The AMA stopped representing rank and file doctors many years ago.

Bullshit! The AMA crested 7.5 million members just last month!!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 16, 2014 11:38 AM (+lsX1)

107 Obamacare has increased your probability of access to a competent physician from 90% to 50%.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 16, 2014 11:38 AM (o3MSL)

108 Remain Calm and Choom On

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at April 16, 2014 11:39 AM (QupBk)

109 The Wimpy White House: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ6xBaZ92uA

Posted by: Y-not at April 16, 2014 11:39 AM (zDsvJ)

110 Posted by: Aviator at April 16, 2014 03:36 PM (3rrMW) Once it dropped below 25% I stopped counting. When you're the only real game in town and you can't even draw a 1/3 of your audience, you're clearly doing something wrong.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 16, 2014 11:39 AM (HDwDg)

111 Universal follow-up question for Carney: "Is that because you are corrupt or because you are stupid?" Why choose?

Posted by: Powderhouse Rules at April 16, 2014 11:39 AM (Xv7f/)

112 If you like what I did in your mouth you may keep what I did in your mouth.

Posted by: eleven at April 16, 2014 11:40 AM (GXZgZ)

113

Jay Carney walks into a bar and orders a beer.

The bartender says, " sure, I'll have it right there for you in the next 6 to 60 minutes"

Posted by: polynikes at April 16, 2014 11:40 AM (m2CN7)

114 Cocksuckers know everything else about us except who signed up and paid for their plan.

Posted by: RWC at April 16, 2014 11:41 AM (fWAjv)

115 The bartender says, " sure, I'll have it right there for you in the next 6 to 60 minutes"

And then serves him a glass of water, insisting over and over again that it's beer and Carney's just too stupid to understand the nuance.

Posted by: HR at April 16, 2014 11:42 AM (ZKzrr)

116 These people need to sit down with a nice hot steaming mug of shut the fuck up.

They're doctors. Many other delivery options exist. It's not all just "B.I.D."

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 16, 2014 11:42 AM (xq1UY)

117
Leftist also love to direct the spigot of crony capitalism towards themselves.

I'm sure they had multiple reasons for supporting it ranging from "crazy" to "Money money money!"

Corruption is a survival mechanism for those who do not have the skills or raw aptitude to compete fairly.

Since fair competition is never fair to them, they see corruption as a just way to even the odds against those who must have cheated to win.

This way they don't have to admit that 1) they are inferior to others and 2) they could never be successful in a truly neutral environment.

Posted by: grognard at April 16, 2014 11:42 AM (/29Nl)

118 The AMA is a govt-blessed cartel that makes healthcare more scarce. And then they supported the ACA. Screw them.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 56% more DOOM! at April 16, 2014 11:43 AM (FA3Z7)

119 The AMA, the ABA, and AARP are all Democrat front groups.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at April 16, 2014 11:43 AM (T2V/1)

120 >>And then serves him a glass of water, insisting over and over again that it's beer and Carney's just too stupid to understand the nuance. yes!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 16, 2014 11:43 AM (IdOTf)

121 "105. Go with crabapples in your cheeks. Posted by: Orr at April 16, 2014 *** Props to you for the allusion to one of my favorite novels.

Posted by: Powderhouse Rules at April 16, 2014 11:43 AM (Xv7f/)

122 Also the PBA.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 16, 2014 11:43 AM (ZPrif)

123 So the wheels are still spinning but the hamsters of metrics are dead.

Move right along, nothing to see. *thud*

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 16, 2014 11:43 AM (FbAHC)

124 Cocksuckers know everything else about us except who signed up and paid for their plan. Posted by: RWC at April 16, 2014 03:41 PM (fWAjv) Wonder when they are going to spring the Obamacare Automatic Withholding feature on those of us stupid enough to work for salaries?

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 16, 2014 11:43 AM (o3MSL)

125 Posted by: HR at April 16, 2014 03:42 PM (ZKzrr) You mean "which Carny promptly thinks is Natty light and says: 'I'm cool, see!'"

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 16, 2014 11:43 AM (HDwDg)

126 Reporter: "Do you have any estimates for when you might tell us the truth?" Jay Carney: "Nah, I'm too busy posing for communist photoshop propaganda with my wife, who by the way is too hot for you, and probably also too hot to serve as a believable beard to disguise just how light I am in the loafers. Next question."

Posted by: zombie at April 16, 2014 11:44 AM (mizYg)

127 116 The bartender says, " sure, I'll have it right there for you in the next 6 to 60 minutes" And then serves him a glass of water, insisting over and over again that it's beer and Carney's just too stupid to understand the nuance. Posted by: HR at April 16, 2014 03:42 PM (ZKzrr) Or instead gives him a quart of warm piss in a trash bag, which Jay promptly chugs down.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 16, 2014 11:44 AM (tNrYO)

128 >> Either way it's fucking them over. Good riddance, I stand by what I said earlier, the AMA's opinion should be rendered to the dustbin they don't represent anyone anymore, certainly not "doctors." (which is a diverse group.) Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) I don't disagree with the last part of your statement. I do disagree it's fucking them over. The leadership of the AMA is interested in "power", "seat at the table" and cocktail party invites. Most of those people haven't practiced real medicine since bleeding cups went out of style. So, destroying the practice of medicine doesn't really affect them.

Posted by: Aviator at April 16, 2014 11:44 AM (3rrMW)

129 John Nolte ‏@NolteNC Is not paying grazing fees anymore lawless than Obama illegally carving out ObamaCare exemptions for his supporters? Nope John Nolte ‏@NolteNC When citizen doesn't pay grazing fees, govt sends snipers. When Head of govt rewrites OCare laws to benefit supporters, media applauds.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 16, 2014 11:44 AM (ZPrif)

130 I can tell you the exact date that the Feds will release the signup numbers: May 23, 2014. The Friday before Memorial Day. Talk about a weekend when those numbers will get NO play in the media, and by Tuesday, it's old news.

Posted by: Dr. Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, Media Consultant to the Stars at April 16, 2014 11:44 AM (HxSXm)

131 It it that he's lying that they haven't planned when to lie yet or that they're always lying so a timetable is irrelevant.

Wait for it...
Yes.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at April 16, 2014 11:45 AM (DL2i+)

132 "And then serves him a glass of water, insisting over and over again that it's beer"

The water is homeopathic beer.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 16, 2014 11:45 AM (noWW6)

133 They're doctors. Many other delivery options exist. It's not all just "B.I.D."

Barbed Cock of Satan SuppositoriesÂ™. Oh yeah, you can feel it working.

OT. I can't look at this without laughing. http://is.gd/Rg84Rn

Posted by: HR at April 16, 2014 11:45 AM (ZKzrr)

134 Posted by: Aviator at April 16, 2014 03:44 PM (3rrMW) This is a fair point. And given that (as we've pointed out) the AMA is small enough that it's "leaders" and "members" might as well be the same thing....

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 16, 2014 11:45 AM (HDwDg)

135 The AMA, the ABA, and AARP are all Democrat front groups. OÂ’SullivanÂ’s Law: OÂ’SullivanÂ’s Law states that any organization or enterprise that is not expressly right wing will become left wing over time. The law is named after British journalist John OÂ’Sullivan.

Posted by: toby928© at April 16, 2014 11:46 AM (QupBk)

136 Posted by: toby928Â© at April 16, 2014 03:46 PM (QupBk) Well that and these are all organizations whose sole purpose is to lobby for special favors from government. That sorta predisposes them to leftism.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 16, 2014 11:47 AM (HDwDg)

137 If only the GOP leadership were men.

Posted by: Beyond Disgusted at April 16, 2014 11:47 AM (thLL8)

138 And Carney thinks "Look, can't you talentless clapping seals just take the herring of Republicans=Racists and stop asking me questions about the impending doom that is ObamaCare?"

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Snow! AHHHHHHHH! at April 16, 2014 11:47 AM (hLRSq)

139 >>>> 85 All blue berries are blueberries. Watch it! That kind of talk can get you killed.

Posted by: Euell Gibbons at April 16, 2014 11:47 AM (8MjqI)

140 And yes just returned from the writers lunch. Was good, fun, chatty, and even had a new member join.

But the place is clearly in the Liberal Zombie zone. Just down the street I spied a store called "Computer Co-Op." As if that not clue enough the store has a big 'Register to Vote Here' sign and a sticker 'No to GMO.' To finish off cementing the place as Liberal Zombie zone, at least two cars had Coexist stickers and one blonde woman, probably in her 40s, was wearing the Parisian Mime style of dress but she lacked the black beret.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 16, 2014 11:48 AM (FbAHC)

141 What do snozberries taste like?

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at April 16, 2014 11:48 AM (yFbI+)

142 Ace is downright terse today. Posted by: Groovy at April 16, 2014 03:18 PM (yn6XZ) Hey, I can be terse. Once in flight school, I was laconic.

Posted by: Zombie Hoban Washburne at April 16, 2014 11:48 AM (TIIx5)

143 I have to say, the surgeons I work with are busy. They know that this law sucks, and they aren't happy. They are, however, overwhelmed with the day to day complexities of being heart surgeons. The chief of cardiac surgery, God bless him is ever so sweet and naÃ¯ve. He was all excited when Congress called Lois Lerner to come back and testify. He thought for sure she was going to break. I had to break the sad news to him when I returned from my lunch break that she had pleaded the 5th (again). He was so disappointed. A lot of the good docs are just trying to take care of their patients and stay above water. Specialty surgeons have very stressful and demanding jobs. They need to keep up with their journals and all the latest research, etc. They have to take care of very sick patients. They have the added burden of running their practices and brining in money to pay off their school debts, overhead, etc. They do not have time to get involved in politics. I have a theory that the doctors who do have time are mostly leftists because they aren't very good and have the time.

Posted by: runningrn at April 16, 2014 11:49 AM (o6g4X)

144 120 The AMA, the ABA, and AARP are all Democrat front groups. Posted by: Vic at April 16, 2014 03:43 PM (T2V/1) AARP is an insurance company that has a side business of "promoting senior citizen issues" that usually deal with seniors needing to buy insurance from AARP. Or cellphones. Or computers. Or Rascals.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, Media Consultant to the Stars at April 16, 2014 11:49 AM (HxSXm)

145 139 If only the GOP leadership were men. Posted by: Beyond Disgusted at April 16, 2014 03:47 PM (thLL

If only the Democrats were American.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 16, 2014 11:49 AM (tNrYO)

146 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 16, 2014 03:48 PM (FbAHC) I'm gonna start asking people who say "No to GMO." "I see you support starving children to death."

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 16, 2014 11:49 AM (HDwDg)

147 That sorta predisposes them to leftism. I think O'Sullivan was pointing out that the Bureaucratic Man, by nature, like bureaucracy. It's what he knows. All organizations are eventually run by bureaucratic men because they have the most interest in running it.

Posted by: toby928© at April 16, 2014 11:49 AM (QupBk)

148 94...And the keeping the kids on the parents insurance up until they're old enough for their first prostate exam....Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 16, 2014 03:35 PM **** I am so plagiarizing that to the brother-in-law who thinks the federal government commanding adolescence be extended to age 26 is the crowning achievement of Obamacare.

Posted by: D.K.G. at April 16, 2014 11:50 AM (Xv7f/)

149 "...and one blonde woman, probably in her 40s, was wearing the Parisian Mime style of dress but she lacked the black beret." Hey, I have a striped sweater dress! (I also have a beret, but I haven't worn it since the Monica Lewinsky days...)

Posted by: runningrn at April 16, 2014 11:50 AM (o6g4X)

150 111 Once it dropped below 25% I stopped counting. Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 16, 2014 03:39 PM (HDwDg) ----------------------- I think it's probably somewhere near 15% now. They keep jacking the numbers up by extending "associate" memberships, e.g., to medical students. My nephew, who left med school after one semester over 6 yrs ago, is still an associate member of the AMA! Since "associates" don't pay dues, he's never bothered to correct them....and they obviously don't care. He's an accountant. LOL.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 16, 2014 11:50 AM (dfYL9)

151

Act like you've been there before.

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That's my plan for when i have a three-way with Kate Upton and Scarlett Johansson. Of course no plan survives first contact with the vagina...

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 16, 2014 11:50 AM (SO2Q8)

152 Won't it be fun IF we have a republican President watching the press absolutely relentlessly grill the President and his spokesman?

Posted by: Seems legit at April 16, 2014 11:51 AM (jEV5Y)

153 Jay Carney's next job. Jeff Dunham's newest dummy. Hey, if you are going to say anything and everything someone wants you to say, maybe you should at least be entertaining while you do it. I feel for Jeff. Having to shove his hand up THAT dummy's ass.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2014 11:51 AM (xorT2)

154 134 Jay Carney's next job. Jeff Dunham's newest dummy. Hey, if you are going to say anything and everything someone wants you to say, maybe you should at least be entertaining while you do it. Posted by: JB1000 at April 16, 2014 03:45 PM (16OL0) No shoving my arm up there, no way, no how, and I even work with a terrorist!!!

Posted by: Jeff Dunham at April 16, 2014 11:51 AM (HxSXm)

155 "I see you support starving children to death."

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 16, 2014 03:49 PM (HDwDg)

Do you support saving millions of African children from a horrible death?

Yes?

Good....help me change the world's policy on use of DDT.

What?

So...you are FOR killing African babies!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 16, 2014 11:51 AM (QFxY5)

156 Posted by: toby928Â© at April 16, 2014 03:49 PM (QupBk) Eh, I think that's accurate for O'Sullivan's law, I was merely pointing out these groups have a second predisposition to leftism baked right in.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 16, 2014 11:51 AM (HDwDg)

157 Speaking of AARP, have any of you joined GMAC? Honest opinions requested -- is it worth it?

Posted by: Y-not at April 16, 2014 11:52 AM (zDsvJ)

158 I am so plagiarizing that to the brother-in-law who thinks the federal government commanding adolescence be extended to age 26 is the crowning achievement of Obamacare. I have a friend who was excited about the same thing. Especially, since her ex-husband worked at Microsoft and she felt he should cover the kids because he made more money than she did at her school district. She still thinks Obamacare is great even though her boyfriend lost his plan because of it. Complete idiot. We have agreed not to talk about Obamacare.

Posted by: runningrn at April 16, 2014 11:52 AM (o6g4X)

159 I have a Russian sailor shirt on today. I was falsely accused of being a French mime. The guy can't file charges, right? Justifiable.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at April 16, 2014 11:53 AM (bX7ov)

160 134 Jay Carney's next job. Jeff Dunham's newest dummy. Hey, if you are going to say anything and everything someone wants you to say, maybe you should at least be entertaining while you do it. Posted by: JB1000 at April 16, 2014 03:45 PM *** Carney's already used to working with someone's hand up his ass.

Posted by: Taffy3 at April 16, 2014 11:53 AM (Xv7f/)

161 When Mass health care costs were running amok, Devil Patrick imposed Price Control measures. That of course made everything worse. So expect obama to pull that rabbit out of his hat next.

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at April 16, 2014 11:53 AM (yFbI+)

162 TANSTAFL - and the .gov makes damn sure of it! http://tinyurl.com/ku6f9nl The Internal Revenue Service is considering a bold move to label perks like free lunch given to workers by companies as taxable. The agency wonders if freebies like haircuts and gym memberships are a way to compensate the highly skilled rather than just a way to jumpstart productivity. Companies say it would be a step too far that needlessly chips away most notably at the fruitfulness of industries in Silicon Valley that have become a driving force behind the American economy. 'I clearly think it ought to be taxable income,' University of Florida tax law professor Martin J. McMahon, Jr. told the Wall Street Journal. After all, argue proponents of such a tax, workers at Silicon Valley firms like Google and Facebook receive free meals from famously fancy in-house eateries every day. Some companies even go a step further by offering freebies like haircuts, car services, and child care. Typical workaday folks can expect to pay for all these using their fully taxed wages, an argument at the heart of the agency's reason for pondering the added tax. 'I buy my lunch with after-tax dollars,' McMahon told the WSJ. 'And I have to pay taxes to support free meals for those Google employees.' Huh?

Posted by: RWC at April 16, 2014 11:53 AM (fWAjv)

163 Whoops, I mean AMAC.

Posted by: Y-not at April 16, 2014 11:53 AM (zDsvJ)

164 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 16, 2014 03:50 PM (dfYL9) I actually know a couple of people who used to work for the AMA. They were committed leftists in the "everything is political" camp.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 16, 2014 11:53 AM (HDwDg)

165 Um, I'm pretty sure that wanting to know the actual numbers for Obamacare sign-ups is racist, you bunch of Koch Brothers loving wingnuts.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 16, 2014 11:54 AM (SH7t3)

166 Won't it be fun IF we have a republican President watching the press absolutely relentlessly grill the President and his spokesman? Would be more fun if the spokesman answered every question with "FYNQ!"

Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2014 11:54 AM (xorT2)

167 >>To finish off cementing the place as Liberal Zombie zone, at least two cars had Coexist stickers and one blonde woman, probably in her 40s, was wearing the Parisian Mime style of dress but she lacked the black beret. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) Probably not this sticker: http://www.rangerup.com/co.html

Posted by: Aviator at April 16, 2014 11:54 AM (3rrMW)

168 Abortions are tax deductible.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 16, 2014 11:54 AM (ZPrif)

169 (Voice emanating from the sky) : "NSAnet is now operative. We know all. We see all. Your data set is complete. The selfie lens on your iPhone tracks your eye movements so we even know what percentage of the time you are gazing at boob-level on HackedSnapChat.com. Accept the fact that we have omniscience." (Peon shouting impotently heavenward) : "How many people signed up for ObamaCare?" (Voice from sky) : "Does not compute. Zero divided by infinity can not exist. Calculating. Calculating. Irrational. Irrational. Does not compute doesnotcompute doesnotcompute DOESNOTCOMPUTE...!!!" (Bright flash in the sky briefly blinds the populace.) And so it begins again. Apemen smash rocks with thighbones as "Thus Spake Zarathustra" wells in the background.

Posted by: zombie at April 16, 2014 11:55 AM (mizYg)

170 The Megan McCardle item in the sidebar is worth a read as well.

Posted by: BuckIV at April 16, 2014 11:55 AM (CLfqv)

171 Posted by: runningrn at April 16, 2014 03:52 PM (o6g4X) Daily reminder, numerous states had already extended insurance coverage to people between the ages of 24-26 (depending on state) before Obama was even a presidential candidate. I know my state was one of those states, as I've said before I actually had trouble getting *off* my dad's insurance because the insurance company seemed not to want to remove me (it cost nothing to keep me on, so eventually we just stopped trying.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 16, 2014 11:55 AM (HDwDg)

172 Yeah I wandered into the computer place. Computers all over. Used and new parts up front. Even saw a Zip drive on a table, remember when they at 100MB were da bomb? The other stores were some kind of Green store plus a whole food store. Plus advertising for massages. As I said, Liberal Zombie zone. I would lose my mind if I worked there.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 16, 2014 11:55 AM (FbAHC)

173 Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2014 03:54 PM (xorT2) Yes, yes it would.

Posted by: Seems legit at April 16, 2014 11:55 AM (jEV5Y)

174

Second look at Mel Gibson for WH PS?

Those numbers? Sure...I'll get that for you. But first...

Posted by: Sam In VA at April 16, 2014 11:56 AM (Q52VH)

175 I actually know a couple of people who used to work for the AMA. --------------- hey..., hold it...

Posted by: American Motorcyclist Association at April 16, 2014 11:56 AM (aDwsi)

176 Ah, but the italics! That's when I had them!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/s] [/u] at April 16, 2014 11:56 AM (HsTG8)

177 And I have to pay taxes to support free meals for those Google employees.' Huh? Posted by: RWC at April 16, 2014 03:53 PM (fWAjv) -------------- See, they're funding it because the Gov. is not taxing itmand Google gets to deduct the cost from their taxable profit. Or something.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 16, 2014 11:56 AM (ojnk6)

178 Carney did you cum? did you cum?

Posted by: Sally at April 16, 2014 11:57 AM (m2CN7)

179 &

Posted by: eleven at April 16, 2014 11:57 AM (GXZgZ)

180 Aviator, nope. The original touchy feel good one with all the religious symbols.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 16, 2014 11:57 AM (FbAHC)

181 'I buy my lunch with after-tax dollars,' McMahon told the WSJ. 'And I have to pay taxes to support free meals for those Google employees.' Huh? Posted by: RWC All top tech companies in the Bay Area have free 24-hour cafeterias staffed by world-class chefs. Seriously.

Posted by: zombie at April 16, 2014 11:57 AM (mizYg)

182 The Internal Revenue Service is considering a bold move to label perks like free lunch given to workers by companies as taxable. I emailed that article to some tech friends who work at Microsoft this a.m. I already heard back from one. He said "As we all know, there is no such thing as a free lunch...except for the IRS." He is spot on.

Posted by: runningrn at April 16, 2014 11:57 AM (o6g4X)

183 Don't worry folks, we're on it. Look for an ad talking about marriage anytime here.

Posted by: TOP MEN IN THE GOP at April 16, 2014 11:57 AM (F6KtL)

184 I have long advocated for Captain Hate as WH press secretary.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at April 16, 2014 11:58 AM (bX7ov)

185 heh. Alfa Romeo to *again* import cars. How does one spell 'fickle' in Italian?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 16, 2014 11:58 AM (aDwsi)

186 Posted by: zombie at April 16, 2014 03:57 PM (mizYg) See I would see this as an argument for a simplified tax code. somehow leftists see it as an argument for a more complex one.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 16, 2014 11:59 AM (HDwDg)

187 All top tech companies in the Bay Area have free 24-hour cafeterias staffed by world-class chefs. Seriously. Posted by: zombie at April 16, 2014 03:57 PM (mizYg) I don't doubt that. The 'huh' was him stating that they are tax payer funded.

Posted by: RWC at April 16, 2014 11:59 AM (fWAjv)

188 "Won't it be fun IF we have a republican President watching the press absolutely relentlessly grill the President and his spokesman?"

Absolutely key will be having a press secretary who regards the press corps(e) as the pack of lying jackals and Democratic auxiliaries that they are. Who takes none of their shit but dishes out plenty to them on a daily basis.

::: hands go up, question from press corps about budget :::

"I'll be happy to give you the full response in a moment. But I have to say, it's good to see that NOW you lot are suddenly interested in these sorts of details, after eight years of you asking the previous administration the really tough, sharp-edged questions, like 'what has enchanted you the most about serving?'"

Posted by: torquewrench at April 16, 2014 11:59 AM (noWW6)

189 How does one spell 'fickle' in Italian? ficcoli

Posted by: eleven at April 16, 2014 11:59 AM (GXZgZ)

190 See, they're funding it because the Gov. is not taxing itmand Google gets to deduct the cost from their taxable profit. Or something. Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 16, 2014 03:56 PM (ojnk6) Ohhhhh.

Posted by: RWC at April 16, 2014 12:00 PM (fWAjv)

191 Follow up, Jay? The pocket square? How much and where?

Posted by: tu3031 at April 16, 2014 12:00 PM (nsQhi)

192 I second that emotion Mr. Dave. Captain Hate is an able spokesman.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 16, 2014 12:00 PM (32Ze2)

193 Posted by: RWC at April 16, 2014 03:59 PM (fWAjv Remember, to a leftist, every untaxed dollar is "theft from the government."

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 16, 2014 12:00 PM (HDwDg)

194

.....4 chicks and a dude. Dude will rotate.

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I wasn't that impressed with the stamina of the Dude

Posted by: 4th chick at April 16, 2014 12:01 PM (SO2Q8)

195 ficoli? thought that was Spicoli?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 16, 2014 12:01 PM (FbAHC)

196 "I'll be happy to give you the full response in a moment. But I have to say, it's good to see that NOW you lot are suddenly interested in these sorts of details, after eight years of you asking the previous administration the really tough, sharp-edged questions, like 'what has enchanted you the most about serving?'" Posted by: torquewrench at April 16, 2014 03:59 PM (noWW6) But first you will...

Posted by: RWC at April 16, 2014 12:01 PM (fWAjv)

197 189 All top tech companies in the Bay Area have free 24-hour cafeterias staffed by world-class chefs. Seriously. Posted by: zombie at April 16, 2014 03:57 PM (mizYg) I don't doubt that. The 'huh' was him stating that they are tax payer funded. Posted by: RWC at April 16, 2014 03:59 PM (fWAjv) Add to that his instinct was to find a way to tax that rather than understand why he thinks his taxes somehow support it. Fucking idiot.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 16, 2014 12:01 PM (tNrYO)

198 Valerie! Coordinate!

Posted by: Jay 7, with smoke coming out of his hears at April 16, 2014 12:02 PM (QupBk)

199 That's not good. Not clear what party this idiot mayor belongs to, he needs to not be a mayor anymore. --- Missouri Mayor Says He 'Kind Of Agreed' With Alleged Jewish Center Shooter @TPM http://talkingpointsmemo.com/ livewire/frazier-glenn-miller-marionville-dan-clevenger Â…

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 16, 2014 12:02 PM (ZPrif)

200 All top tech companies in the Bay Area have free 24-hour cafeterias staffed by world-class chefs. Seriously. Microsoft doesn't provide free lunch, but it's subsidized and they provide unlimited, free beverages of the non-alcoholic variety. They also will have free concerts, free bowling or outings as morale events, ship parties, etc. It's a lot of stuff to encourage the people who work there to stay late and do a good job. They use their perks (including their once awesome extremely generous healthcare benefits--they actually started cutting back on those this year) to recruit and retain people. Google here does the free lunches as does my other friend's company (a much smaller business). It's a competitive market. To all these whiners that are saying "it isn't fair", go get educated and try and land a job at one of these places instead of whining about it. Why do a bunch of whiners have to ruin things for other people? Why not focus on themselves and better their own lot in life instead of trying to take other people down? (That's a rhetorical question). Sadly, Precedent You Didn't Build that has made success unpalatable and compensation for hard work a scarlet letter stigma. (Not to mention what he's been doing for race relations). We have the most petulant, divisive, unprofessional, ideologue hack in the WH ever. It's absolutely breath taking that anyone who actually works hard for a living could support this tool.

Posted by: runningrn at April 16, 2014 12:03 PM (o6g4X)

201

Go with crabapples in your cheeks.

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Nice one, Orr

Posted by: BuckIV at April 16, 2014 12:03 PM (CLfqv)

202 FoxNews is launching their version of the View, it seems. Show will be called Outnumbered - 4 chicks and a dude. Dude will rotate. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 16, 2014 03:30 PM (ZPrif) Somehow I don't think that the FNC version of this show will be ANYTHING like the Horde version, IYKWIMAITTYD.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 16, 2014 12:03 PM (TIIx5)

203 Oh, and if you are going to tax people for job perks, what about leading by example? Why not have Harry, Nancy, and Obama pay the taxes for all their travel on taxpayer dime not to mention all their perks--car service, free postage, etc. I'd love to see what the Mooch would owe on just her last vacation.

Posted by: runningrn at April 16, 2014 12:04 PM (o6g4X)

204 Add to that his instinct was to find a way to tax that rather than understand why he thinks his taxes somehow support it. Fucking idiot. Posted by: model_1066 at April 16, 2014 04:01 PM (tNrYO) And he's a tax professor. SMH.

Posted by: RWC at April 16, 2014 12:04 PM (fWAjv)

205 I don't doubt that. The 'huh' was him stating that they are tax payer funded. Posted by: RWC Today's protest-argument is that tax breaks given to entice companies to stay in California now count as "corporations stealing money from the people by not paying their fair share of taxes." The SEIU has been out in force since Monday in SF making this argument. (The SEIU is now a branch of the Federal government, in case you weren't clear on that.)

Posted by: zombie at April 16, 2014 12:04 PM (mizYg)

206 Posted by: runningrn at April 16, 2014 04:03 PM (o6g4X)

As long as the companies are following the law, I don't give a shit.

Free lunch at Google is not the most pressing issue in our tax code.

And....how do you keep your mouth shut in the People's Republic of Washington?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 16, 2014 12:05 PM (QFxY5)

207 Marionville, Missouri needs to get a new mayor. Talking Points Memo ‏@TPM Mayor no longer wants to discuss how much he agrees with alleged Jewish center shooter: http://bit.ly/1iq8uu7 pic.twitter.com/K1hLBe3lZz

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 16, 2014 12:06 PM (ZPrif)

208 Nood..long one.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 16, 2014 12:06 PM (ojnk6)

209 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 16, 2014 04:02 PM (ZPrif) The deuce you say, a small town in Rural Missouri might have some racists in it? Next you'll be telling me they found a meth lab nearby. Honestly, I'm doubting this guy even has a "party." Lots of mayors in this state run party-less. (I'm sure they support one party over the other, but for the purposes of elections, they don't break down that way.) I'm in a suburb of St. Louis, and that's how ours works (as well as several around us.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 16, 2014 12:07 PM (HDwDg)

210 Speaking of hypocritical socialists who say the rich should pay their fair share, did you see DeBlasio only paid like 8.3% tax rate on his $120k plus annual income and over $50k rental income? He also was not forthcoming about his actual net worth. Shocking, huh?

Posted by: runningrn at April 16, 2014 12:07 PM (o6g4X)

211 new one

Posted by: Vic[/i] at April 16, 2014 12:07 PM (T2V/1)

212 If this mayor is a Republican he's about to become famous.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 16, 2014 12:08 PM (ZPrif)

213 183----All top tech companies in the Bay Area have free 24-hour cafeterias staffed by world-class chefs. Seriously. Posted by: zombie at April 16, 2014 03:57 PM (mizYg) -------------------- That really SHOULD be taxed. It's compensation in kind. Hey, if I paid my employees in a combination of cash and ammo, you can bet the IRS would be all over it.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 16, 2014 12:08 PM (dfYL9)

214 And....how do you keep your mouth shut in the People's Republic of Washington It's hard! I usually don't. That one particular friend, though, we agreed we disagree. It wasn't worth losing a friendship over something that we will never see eye to eye on. She is against illegal immigration, though.

Posted by: runningrn at April 16, 2014 12:10 PM (o6g4X)

215 Somehow I don't think that the FNC version of this show will be ANYTHING like the Horde version, IYKWIMAITTYD.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 16, 2014 04:03 PM (TIIx5)

Knowing Fox the women will at least have faces fit for television and voices fit for radio - unlike the way it is done on the View.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Snow! AHHHHHHHH! at April 16, 2014 12:10 PM (hLRSq)

216 >>Bullshit! The AMA crested 7.5 million members just last month!!
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 16, 2014 03:38 PM (+lsX1)<<
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Hell of a membership drive, as they had 224,503 members in 2012

Posted by: Javems at April 16, 2014 12:10 PM (nTgAI)

217 That really SHOULD be taxed. It's compensation in kind. Hey, if I paid my employees in a combination of cash and ammo, you can bet the IRS would be all over it I disagree. It's food. It's consumed on the job and probably pooped out there too. The companies are trying to extend the work day and get people to stay on campus during lunch (so they aren't wasting time going off) and stay late (so they can still have dinner even though they are staying late). I call it an incentive. It's not something they can sell to someone else for profit (like ammo) or cash. It's a recruitment and retention tool, and it keeps people physically at the campus.

Posted by: runningrn at April 16, 2014 12:13 PM (o6g4X)

218 If this mayor is a Republican he's about to become famous. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 16, 2014 04:08 PM (ZPrif) TPM and Kos still haven't found a party, Likely he votes republican, but he may not have run with one.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 16, 2014 12:13 PM (HDwDg)

219 189 All top tech companies in the Bay Area have free 24-hour cafeterias staffed by world-class chefs. Seriously. Posted by: zombie at April 16, 2014 03:57 PM (mizYg) I don't doubt that. The 'huh' was him stating that they are tax payer funded. Posted by: RWC at April 16, 2014 03:59 PM (fWAjv) The tech companies get to write off the meals as a business expense since they could say that employees were usually discussing business while eating. The company could come up with a "price" for each meal, say $10, even though the price to fix and serve is only $5. Thus, the employees get a tangible benefit that others cannot receive and don't pay taxes on it.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at April 16, 2014 12:14 PM (HxSXm)

220 Knowing Fox the women will at least have faces fit for television and voices fit for radio - unlike the way it is done on the View. Oh come on! Nothing is hawter than Whoopie and Joy...

Posted by: runningrn at April 16, 2014 12:14 PM (o6g4X)

221 heh. Alfa Romeo to *again* import cars. How does one spell 'fickle' in Italian? Jaguar.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2014 12:16 PM (xorT2)

222 Ace is downright terse today. Posted by: Groovy at April 16, 2014 03:18 PM (yn6XZ) I like 'pithy'

Posted by: Bill O'Reilly at April 16, 2014 12:16 PM (nCSwS)

223 207 I don't doubt that. The 'huh' was him stating that they are tax payer funded. Posted by: RWC Today's protest-argument is that tax breaks given to entice companies to stay in California now count as "corporations stealing money from the people by not paying their fair share of taxes." The SEIU has been out in force since Monday in SF making this argument. (The SEIU is now a branch of the Federal government, in case you weren't clear on that.) Posted by: zombie at April 16, 2014 04:04 PM (mizYg) I have to say, I really hate those incentives that localities give to companies to entice them to stay or come because all the small businesses in those areas take it up the dumper to pay extra in taxes. It SHOULD be a level playing field for all, no government favoritism.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at April 16, 2014 12:17 PM (HxSXm)

224 172 The Megan McCardle item in the sidebar is worth a read as well.Posted by: BuckIV at April 16, 2014 03:55 PM (CLfqv)

Now there's a phrase you don't see often.

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at April 16, 2014 12:17 PM (H84UO)

225 Nood Megan McCardle item.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2014 12:20 PM (xorT2)

226 Posted by: RWC at April 16, 2014 03:59 PM (fWAjv) When a leftist sees the word "free", he automatically assumes it is a government benefit and is evil, unless he gets it too.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 16, 2014 12:22 PM (o3MSL)

227 I currently work for a hospital system. When I first arrived, lunches in the company cafeteria were huge and cheap. Then the IRS judged them to income and taxable. So they had to raise the prices until the cafeteria broke even. This was 10 years ago. How does Google avoid this now?

Posted by: toby928© at April 16, 2014 12:23 PM (QupBk)

228 Carney is transparent as fuck

Posted by: fabio at April 16, 2014 12:26 PM (uxJMc)

229 Yeah, about the Soviet propaganda in my kitchen? That's nothing, when you compare it to the Soviet propaganda in my pet newspapers.

Posted by: Jay Carney-Barker at April 16, 2014 12:27 PM (LISuA)

230 The check is in your mouth and I won't come in the mail...

Posted by: Bytebrothers at April 16, 2014 12:36 PM (PMGbu)

231 Everyone has signed up.

We have reached 100% insurance coverage in the country among legals, illegals and others.

Next question.

Posted by: Jay Carney at April 16, 2014 01:03 PM (25HWz)

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