December 24, 2010
— Open Blogger So, explain to me again why it was so critical for US diplomacy and Obama's standing to rush the START treaty through the lame duck session?
Russian lawmakers gave preliminary approval Friday to an arms agreement with the United States, but signaled they would slow progress on the so-called New START treaty to a crawl after it was rushed through Congress earlier this week with some 11th-hour arm-twisting by President Obama.ÂThe treaty cleared an initial hurdle through Moscow's lower house of parliament, but a senior lawmaker said the treaty won't get full approval until at least next month.Â
Konstantin Kosachev, head of the State Duma's foreign affairs committee, said that the treaty would need a total of three required readings before it can be fully ratified. He said full ratification could only happen next month "at the earliest."Â
And, of course, the Clowns of Congress felt it absolutely had to be completed in this lame duck session. I may send a letter with a copy of this article to every RINO who supported START. ..fritz..
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And more responsible government.
I guess because they're former commies, while we're future commies.
Posted by: nickless at December 24, 2010 06:19 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: jimmytheleg at December 24, 2010 06:21 AM (EZIfr)
Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at December 24, 2010 06:23 AM (Eo1wN)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 24, 2010 06:23 AM (AzcBR)
Posted by: that guy that doesn't read all the comments at December 24, 2010 06:23 AM (QarOb)
Posted by: nevergiveup at December 24, 2010 06:25 AM (0GFWk)
It was implied.
Posted by: nickless at December 24, 2010 06:25 AM (MMC8r)
Heh, who would have thought the Duma would approach legislation in a more rational manner than the World's Greatest Deliberative Body?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 24, 2010 06:27 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: ed at December 24, 2010 06:30 AM (QLhy5)
Posted by: t-bird at December 24, 2010 06:31 AM (kho+0)
Posted by: nevergiveup at December 24, 2010 06:32 AM (0GFWk)
IIRC GW took some heat when he proposed sending some patriot batteries over to the Ukraine and Poland because it supposedly violated some treaty we had with the USSR.
The conservative argument was "We don't need to follow a treaty with a country that no longer exists".
This new treaty with Russia takes care of that argument nicely.
The shit stain dems just told Eastern Europe to fuck off.
Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at December 24, 2010 06:33 AM (Eo1wN)
Posted by: nevergiveup at December 24, 2010 06:33 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: pep at December 24, 2010 06:34 AM (8lSIO)
Posted by: Alex at December 24, 2010 06:35 AM (yY28H)
Posted by: Brian at December 24, 2010 06:35 AM (sYrWB)
Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at December 24, 2010 06:35 AM (dQdrY)
Posted by: t-bird at December 24, 2010 06:36 AM (kho+0)
Putin read Obama's psych profile.
It said that he was a child abandoned by both parents and is a weak individual who wants the approval of those who are not going to give it.
Posted by: Who Knows at December 24, 2010 06:37 AM (QLiYt)
The conservative argument was "We don't need to follow a treaty with a country that no longer exists".
You are referring to the ABM treaty which the Bush Administration formally withdrew the US from in the summer of 2002 (to the great consternation and gnashing of teeth of liberals everywhere).
The world didn't end - that treaty was a '70s relic that needed to be thrown in the trash-heap of history along with disco. Alas, Obama is hell-bent on taking everyone back in time to the era of KC and the Sunshine Band. Hope you guys still have your polyester pants and 8-track tapes.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 24, 2010 06:38 AM (9hSKh)
Next thing you know, Canada will start looking more like a free nation then we do.
Posted by: Barbarian at December 24, 2010 06:41 AM (EL+OC)
And I love the part about how they HAVE to read it three times through before voting-- I wish they'd make that rule HERE.
Posted by: Cynthia at December 24, 2010 06:42 AM (lhhNH)
MOSCOW (Reuters) –
Russian President Dmitry Medvedev praised President Barack Obama on Friday for
winning U.S. support for an
arms treaty at the center of a "reset" in ties and lamented the slow
pace of his own drive to modernize Russia.
I'm sure that Hitler was pretty happy with Chamberlain when he handed him the Sudetenland for nothing. Aggressors like to deal with
pussies like Barry who just roll over for them
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 24, 2010 06:43 AM (1DISj)
Economically, Canada is now a freer nation than the US, according to Heritage.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 24, 2010 06:43 AM (9hSKh)
Dems don't like foreign affairs. They want them to go away, so they appease, or eat up time with diplomacy, which requires no major efforts or resources. This then allows them to concentrate on domestic affairs (building their domestic socialist utopia) which is really all they want. The rest of the world is just something to be taken off the table.
Posted by: nickless at December 24, 2010 06:46 AM (MMC8r)
IN THE RED CORNER, Vladimir Putin, former KGB Lt. Co., judo blackbelt, who has managed to gain and maintain control over a nation that's largely controlled by vicious organized criminals and who didn't eliminate feudalism until the 1850s.
IN THE BLUE CORNER, Barack Obama, community organizer, junior senator from Illinois, and.... That's about it, actually.
WHO WILL WIN?
Posted by: Secundus at December 24, 2010 06:48 AM (+2TJZ)
Posted by: Pragmatic Republicans at December 24, 2010 06:48 AM (AZGON)
Our latest models are in, Prole.
Posted by: Government Motors Buerecrat at December 24, 2010 06:49 AM (yY28H)
Putin... EX KGB Agent who plays Chess, and practices Judo.
Obama... Ex Community Organizer, who plays Basketball, and practices deception.
And the really sad part? it was the GOP Leadership... which is basicly in place next term as well, who got rolled by Bambi...
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 24, 2010 06:49 AM (AdK6a)
French president says Russia has agreed to buy at least 2 French warships - AP
/Conventional Russian power projection is so bad that they need French ships to help with logistics (for transporting helicopters and such). IIRC, such ships would have significantly helped the Russians during their war with Georgia a scant 2 years ago.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 24, 2010 06:50 AM (9hSKh)
What's next, we get schooled by Mexico on immigration policy?
Already happened / happening. Believe it or not, Mexico has its own illegal alien problem of Guatemalans and other Central Americans trying to sneak in to Mexico, and the Mexicans are no-holds barred about it, even though *their* illegals speak the same language and look about the same.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 24, 2010 06:51 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Brian at December 24, 2010 06:52 AM (sYrWB)
<b>Fake Treaty in Time for a Fake Holiday!</b>
Here's wishing you all a shapely stripper to swing on your Festivus Pole!
Posted by: CoolCzech at December 24, 2010 06:54 AM (tJjm/)
According to the Heritage Foundation Index, they might now?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 24, 2010 06:54 AM (ujg0T)
said that the treaty would need a total of three required readings before it can be fully ratified.
You mean they actually read these things?
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at December 24, 2010 06:55 AM (4hF7m)
See, I pointed out before that START 2 appears to be a Fake Treaty, with the Russians saying from the start they can withdraw whenever it strikes their fancy. Hey, you know why it was so important to pass it in time for Festivus?
<b>Fake Treaty in Time for a Fake Holiday!</b>
Here's wishing you all a shapely stripper to swing on your Festivus Pole!
Back off Whitey and Jewboy interlopers....
Posted by: Kwanzaa at December 24, 2010 06:55 AM (ujg0T)
Little boys and girls are soon going to be taught about Festivus by some liberal "educator" that puts up a Festivus Pole in the classroom and makes them air grievances...
Won't They?
God, I hate brain-dead un-American liberals.
Posted by: CoolCzech at December 24, 2010 06:58 AM (tJjm/)
Oh, God, something just occurred to me...
Little boys and girls are soon going to be taught about Festivus by some liberal "educator" that puts up a Festivus Pole in the classroom and makes them air grievances...
Ahem--again.....
Posted by: Kwanzaa at December 24, 2010 06:58 AM (ujg0T)
You mean the Russian members of parliament actually READ bills and treaties before voting on them? That seems so passé.
Posted by: CoolCzech at December 24, 2010 06:59 AM (tJjm/)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at December 24, 2010 07:00 AM (SJ6/3)
"...that the treaty would need a total of three required readings before it can be fully ratified."
Wait, you mean they don't have to ratify it to find out what's in it first?
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at December 24, 2010 07:02 AM (fLHQe)
The ray of sunshine shining through Barry's ears will be a sight to see.
Posted by: CoolCzech at December 24, 2010 07:03 AM (tJjm/)
in case no one has pointed this out, this shows the world that we really are serious about arms control. That'll show Kim John whats-his-name, dontcha think?
(See how easy it is to think like a liberal? It's just like looking with one eye closed, just applying the method to the brain. Or you can instead think of it as looking with both eyes wide open when you have your head up your butt.)
Posted by: mallfly at December 24, 2010 07:04 AM (bJm7W)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at December 24, 2010 07:05 AM (SJ6/3)
Posted by: Jeff at December 24, 2010 07:07 AM (TAMPV)
(See how easy it is to think like a liberal? It's just like looking with one eye closed, just applying the method to the brain. Or you can instead think of it as looking with both eyes wide open when you have your head up your butt.)
At some point the excuse of foolishness falls away and we have to call it treason, plain and simple.
At least Neville Chamberlain and his fellow dupes had a plausible hope that Hitler could be induced to move east against the Soviets when they gave away the store in 1938. The Demunists in the Senate don't even have THAT.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 24, 2010 07:07 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: flurmf at December 24, 2010 07:08 AM (Kn2lh)
Posted by: nevergiveup at December 24, 2010 07:09 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: David Frum at December 24, 2010 07:09 AM (AZGON)
I predict that, in 2011, Obama will go on an all out charm offensive to woo gullible women.
Watch: Those fools will become as gah gah over him as they were over Scott Brown.
Posted by: Brian at December 24, 2010 07:09 AM (sYrWB)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at December 24, 2010 07:09 AM (SJ6/3)
Next he'll resume sucking up to Ahminajihad and Boss Hugo. Surely his charm will turn America's adversaries into sleepover buddies.
Posted by: Kortezzi at December 24, 2010 07:10 AM (VSU8t)
Next he'll resume sucking up to Ahminajihad and Boss Hugo. Surely his charm will turn America's adversaries into sleepover buddies.
I do suspect Boss Hugo and his proxies in Latin America will be a major problem for the GOP president in 2013. Venezuelan Contras will probably be in order. And no doubt all the saps who knelt down and bent over to perform political fellatio on the Sandinistas will be back to suck Hugo off, too. And bend over and take it up their commie chutes for him.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 24, 2010 07:14 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at December 24, 2010 11:09 AM (SJ6/3)
That is simply the beginning. Coming soon - TSA interactive programs that will search your literal junk virtually.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 24, 2010 07:16 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: Grayson at December 24, 2010 07:19 AM (nJhke)
7 And yet out leaders seem to forget that Russia/USSR has never fulfilled their end of these agreements.
Posted by: Rickshaw
Saying they forgot implies they knew. You are giving them way too much credit.
Posted by: kansas at December 24, 2010 07:20 AM (nNgbi)
In Russia, you don't pwn Putin....Putin pwns you...or puts radioactivity poison in your food. Or you die in accident. Or just die.
Posted by: It's Been This Way For Centuries at December 24, 2010 07:20 AM (Hi9sS)
Posted by: kansas at December 24, 2010 07:20 AM (nNgbi)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at December 24, 2010 07:21 AM (SJ6/3)
Posted by: some1 at December 24, 2010 07:24 AM (0F7Xm)
What's next, we get schooled by Mexico on immigration policy?
Already happened / happening. Believe it or not, Mexico has its own illegal alien problem of Guatemalans and other Central Americans trying to sneak in to Mexico, and the Mexicans are no-holds barred about it, even though *their* illegals speak the same language and look about the same.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 24, 2010 10:51 AM (ujg0T)
Look the same as what???? .....*wait for it*....
OUR ILLEGALS????
bwahahaha
Posted by: Jokes On US...again at December 24, 2010 07:25 AM (iw+m7)
Fuck congress. Fuck Obama. Fuck 'em all. Give me back my Constitution!!!
Unfortunately, this bogus treaty was done quit Constitutionally.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 24, 2010 07:26 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: USS Diversity at December 24, 2010 07:26 AM (DLxD/)
Posted by: George Orwell at December 24, 2010 07:28 AM (AZGON)
Look the same as what???? .....*wait for it*....
OUR ILLEGALS????
bwahahaha
Indeed. One wonders why Mexico doesn't just "pass the buck" and transport them to our border. Then again, that would still cost them, wouldn't it?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 24, 2010 07:29 AM (ujg0T)
In related news the EEOC has ordered Festivus camels and Christmas minaret dioramas to be installed in every post office and federal lobby by Dec. 25.
Whitey liberals still keeping us down....
Posted by: Kwanzaa at December 24, 2010 07:30 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: flurmf at December 24, 2010 07:31 AM (Kn2lh)
In related news the EEOC has ordered Festivus camels and Christmas minaret dioramas to be installed in every post office and federal lobby by Dec. 25.
Seriously, I am surprised they haven't mandated Ramadan on us yet.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 24, 2010 07:33 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Palerider at December 24, 2010 07:38 AM (m+nIW)
Posted by: Brian at December 24, 2010 07:39 AM (sYrWB)
I recently heard rumors to the effect the Kremlin is seriously considering coming up with a pretext for not approving START. If this were to happen, Obama would suffer grievously, perhaps even fatally: He gave up missile bases in Poland (which Russia really, really objected to because of the limited advance warning times involved) in return for.......Nothing! What a laughing stock if that proved true!
Maybe this is in fact what those pesky Russians are up to! I suggest Mr. Putin et al view The One as a dangerous naif, thus better somehow removed from office or fatally weakened for the balance of his term. The next few weeks might tell.
Posted by: alwyr at December 24, 2010 07:40 AM (w2++y)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 24, 2010 07:42 AM (ujg0T)
/Conventional Russian power projection is so bad that they need French ships to help with logistics (for transporting helicopters and such).
I don't believe this story. There is something else going on. Google carrier de Gaulle for a review of French warship construction.
Posted by: pep at December 24, 2010 07:43 AM (8lSIO)
God, are we stupid fucks.
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 24, 2010 07:48 AM (x9xik)
Posted by: Brian at December 24, 2010 07:56 AM (sYrWB)
Posted by: justin cord at December 24, 2010 08:00 AM (c0+w5)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at December 24, 2010 08:17 AM (SJ6/3)
But I got a treaty approval rammed through the Lame Duck, and I got something to wave to the adoring media
Now watch me pull a rabbit out of a hat
Posted by: BA+rA+ck ObA+mA+ at December 24, 2010 08:20 AM (vdfwz)
Posted by: Beagle at December 24, 2010 08:28 AM (sOtz/)
And, of course, the Clowns of Congress felt it absolutely had to be completely in this lame duck session.
Not only that, but no media outlet bothered asking about this idiocy and none of the Vichy shitheads saw fit tp even mention the fact that they were rushing through ratification of something the Russkies were still laughing about.
I consider this fraud on the part of the Vichy Right. They should have to explain their America-hating move and then be forced to resign their positions (yeah ... I wish).
Posted by: Russkies&Vichy Right Rushed US at December 24, 2010 08:30 AM (n98P0)
Posted by: drizzler's battlefield buddy at December 24, 2010 08:40 AM (0YS61)
#95 - Those were not offensive missles which would have been installed in Poland. They would have been defensive missles which would have provided an umbrella or a shield over western Europe to destroy incoming missles.
It's astonishing that members of the MSM are too stupid to notice that, with each passing day, and in a variety of different ways, the Obama Administration and Democrats in Congress are taking stealthy measures to weaken America, not so much, I suspect, because they hate all of that for which America stands, but more so, I suspect, because, by their very nature, the people who become Democrats are incredibly stupid, incredibly immoral and incredibly loony people.
It has always been my contention that Democrats are a coalition of creeps, losers, misfits and perverts, all of whom are immoral, and all of whom are either mentally ill or mentally retarded ...., and by colluding with each other, their coalition forms a majority
Posted by: Brian at December 24, 2010 08:41 AM (sYrWB)
I was thinking the lilly-white, squishy liberals and independents were more to blame. You know, the dirty, university educated, metrosexual, feel-good sacks of "groupthink" shitfucks.
Posted by: Darth Rove at December 24, 2010 08:46 AM (GfYt/)
Posted by: Darth Rove at December 24, 2010 12:46 PM (GfYt/)
It was America being thrown into a psychotic break by the credit crisis that did it. America just lost it and voted to end the whole nightmare through Suicide by Indonesian.
Posted by: Russkies&Vichy Right Rushed US at December 24, 2010 09:02 AM (n98P0)
Posted by: Russkies&Vichy Right Rushed US at December 24, 2010 09:03 AM (n98P0)
Posted by: GhostShip at December 24, 2010 09:21 AM (kWn29)
"He did a great job, succeeding in his push for the ratification of this very important document, the New START in quite difficult conditions," Medvedev said. "I told him: Barack, you have a rest now."
We are so f-ed.
Posted by: rockhead at December 24, 2010 09:25 AM (RykTt)
I'm not that upset anymore. These treaties arent worth the paper they are written on. New POTUS in 2012 should use it for toilet paper.
Posted by: swamp_yankee at December 24, 2010 09:30 AM (3DIBw)
Posted by: swamp_yankee at December 24, 2010 01:30 PM (3DIBw)
Except that our own federal courts love to use these ridiculous treaties to bash our own nation. Just wait until they start pulling treaties out of their asses to rule against Arizona.
Posted by: Russkies&Vichy Right Rushed US at December 24, 2010 09:33 AM (n98P0)
So, in-between vacations, ramming an unwanted healthcare albatross on the American people, stealing GM, and saving the gulf, Hussein made himself an expert on US-Russian relations. So much so that this much touted START II treaty had to be rammed home by a lame duck Congress in the midst of legalizing gays in the military, squabbling over Bush era tax rates, and getting ready for the holidays...Makes perfect sense in the new America...The russians are still laughing and will be toasting Hussein this holiday season...
Posted by: Nozzle at December 24, 2010 09:39 AM (Shb70)
Russians aren't going to ratify until after January anyway.
What a bunch of fucking stooges. Couldnt wait a couple weeks right?
Posted by: swamp_yankee at December 24, 2010 09:43 AM (3DIBw)
Do it. RINOs need to be hammered at every opportunity until they purge themselves of RINO tendencies. If they won't, then raise the specter of primary challenges when they reach the end of their current terms.
Either change, or you'll be turned out.
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at December 24, 2010 10:13 AM (nD3Pg)
Posted by: charles krauthammer at December 24, 2010 12:04 PM (2rOwc)
You left out Canadian immigrants, H8R!!!111!!!
Posted by: david frump at December 24, 2010 12:06 PM (2rOwc)
Merry RamaKwanzaa, Betabama.
Posted by: sifty at December 24, 2010 02:14 PM (fH5CI)
Suicide by Indonesian Imbecile...FIFY
Indonesia does not report its suicides/rates. They lump the bodies in with 'accident' victims.
Posted by: torabora at December 24, 2010 03:27 PM (iw+m7)
Posted by: torabora at December 24, 2010 04:32 PM (iw+m7)
Until I watched that klutzy Indonesian imbecile at the Christmas Celebration in Washington, D.C., on December 9, 2010, I had never seen anyone swaying and dancing to the music of Christmas Carols, and certainly not while a young girl was singing "O Holy Night"!!!!!
If you missed it, you missed that asshole's most bizarre display of bad taste, even more bizarre than when that klutz bowed to Japanese dignataries. It boggles the mind that our current President of the United States is such a klutzy, sleazy and trashy, sick freak. No class, absolutely none whatsoever.
And the Democrats ridiculed Bush!!!! Geezez, Democrats and this administration in particular are so fucked up and so alien to all of the other cultures in the world that they could be from a different planet ..., and the MSM doesn't find anthing wrong with their trashy behavior?.
Instead of her bizarre efforts to stop obesity in children, Michelle and her trashy husband need to take some classes in etiquette, They're such a disgrace and such an embarrassments to this country. But then, who would have expected them to behave any differentlt?
Posted by: Brian at December 25, 2010 04:39 AM (sYrWB)
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Quick question, if I find Congress beneath contempt, does that lower their disapproval rating more than just thinking they do a terrible job?
Posted by: huerfano at December 24, 2010 06:18 AM (QgmBR)