June 08, 2010
— Ace In the generic congressional, he has Republicans up nine, 44% to 35%, which, I feel stupid for having to say this but you are, of course, morons, is almost ten.
The latest poll has Republicans holding steady and Democrats losing two points from their previous level of 37%.
RedState figures that that kind of a lead is good for a 60 seat pickup. Assuming all the things you need to assume.
If you click around Rasmussen's site, it's pretty much all good news, or, at least, neutral-to-good.
Another Poll: This one of registered voters, in which Democrats, unsurprisingly, hold a margin-of-error non-lead of 47% - 44%. Hotline, which conducted the poll, notes this means that Democrats will lose, not gain, seats.
Democrats are having success at attacking the Tea Party:
Meanwhile, it's not just incumbents who are viewed as unpopular. The poll also shows support for the Tea Party movement is dropping, and a majority of voters now have unfavorable views of the libertarian-leaning movement. Just 36% see the Tea Party favorably, while fully 50% say they have an unfavorable impression of Tea Partiers.That's a significant jump, of 11 points, in voters' unfavorable mood, since a poll conducted in late March. The rise comes after months of orchestrated efforts by Dems to paint the Tea Party as out of touch with mainstream America.
Registered voters, again, but even so-- the trend is there. (That is, the last poll was of registered voters too, and the last poll had higher levels of support for the Tea Party.)
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Posted by: Will Folks at June 08, 2010 11:55 AM (IhQuA)
Not only that, I have information that will BLOW EVERY RACE WIDE OPEN. See my blog in a few hours to find out more!
Posted by: Erick Erickson at June 08, 2010 11:56 AM (FkKjr)
Posted by: EC at June 08, 2010 11:56 AM (mAhn3)
Posted by: In before the troll's ass at June 08, 2010 11:56 AM (E4Pj8)
Posted by: tachyonshuggy at June 08, 2010 11:57 AM (yUybe)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 08, 2010 11:57 AM (UOM48)
--There are a couple of syllables in there that should be highlighted.
Posted by: asslogprof at June 08, 2010 11:58 AM (Mmw0q)
Posted by: Sheriff Joe at June 08, 2010 11:58 AM (YZISw)
It's a 16 pt swing. Thanks Barry!
Posted by: damian at June 08, 2010 11:58 AM (4WbTI)
i almost, almost, don't want the republicans to win either house. maybe just enough seats to stop obama's agenda, but not enough that Obama is able to spend 2011 and 2012 blaming the house republicans for all the nations problems.
the 1994 election guaranteed Bill Clinton re-election in 1996.
I know this make me seem cynical, and i am, but it is more important that Obama is not the president in 2012 than it is we control either house of congress in 2010.
Posted by: Ben at June 08, 2010 12:00 PM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Vic at June 08, 2010 12:00 PM (6taRI)
One House, subpoena powers, corrupt Administration.
Some assembly required.
Posted by: damian at June 08, 2010 12:01 PM (4WbTI)
Posted by: Johnnyreb at June 08, 2010 12:01 PM (NNrYJ)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 08, 2010 12:02 PM (pTyL2)
Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at June 08, 2010 12:02 PM (ps0+9)
This is not 1996 and Obama does not "triangulate". He is full on commie and I don't think he intends on running for a second term.
As things are right now the Republicans would blow him out of the water unless we nominate another RINO and the base stays at home.
Posted by: Vic at June 08, 2010 12:02 PM (6taRI)
While solid majorities of Democrats and Republicans support their own party, the plurality (42%) of voters not affiliated with either major party now prefer the Republican candidate, while 18% like the Democrat.
Posted by: taylork at June 08, 2010 12:03 PM (0Hn5w)
One House, subpoena powers, corrupt Administration.
Some assembly required.
Posted by: damian at June 08, 2010 04:01 PM (4WbTI)
I can see both sides here. I would love it if the R's could retake both and then either blame the D's for filibustering in the senate or odipshit for vetoing popular bills like repealing Ocare.
Posted by: Hedgehog at June 08, 2010 12:03 PM (oQIfB)
Seriously, we need Slu's handiwork on this one.
I give you President Barack Kick-Ass Obama Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Comancho.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at June 08, 2010 12:03 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Pgis at June 08, 2010 12:04 PM (xtgOI)
Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at June 08, 2010 12:04 PM (ps0+9)
Do we think that Obama would do something like Welfare reform to regain the center? I sure don't.
Posted by: taylork at June 08, 2010 12:04 PM (0Hn5w)
I know this make me seem cynical, and i am, but it is more important that Obama is not the president in 2012 than it is we control either house of congress in 2010.
One House, subpoena powers, corrupt Administration.
Some assembly required.
that would be a terrible mistake. The whole Clinton trial benefited Clinton. Clinton won. He looked like an ass to us, but he left as one of the more popular presidents in modern history.
Not everyone is a political junky like we are, or ideologues like we are.
The people didn't want investigations of Bush, and they don't of Obama.
We might want them for Obama and the left might have wanted them for Bush, but joe and jane vote don't
Posted by: Ben at June 08, 2010 12:05 PM (wuv1c)
I know this make me seem cynical, and i am, but it is more important that Obama is not the president in 2012 than it is we control either house of congress in 2010.
Posted by: Ben at June 08, 2010 04:00 PM (wuv1c)
You seem to think we will actually have elections in 2012 if we don't do something now. I don't agree with that.
Posted by: robtr at June 08, 2010 12:07 PM (fwSHf)
Agree to the first, disagree to the later.
Commies do stuff. Ifn' Capt. Kickazz was a true commie, BP would have been nationalized last month How many rounds of golf do you think Stalin got in during 1938?
He's a low-flying shit eater from Chicago. Period.
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at June 08, 2010 12:07 PM (zgd5N)
Posted by: joncelliASS at June 08, 2010 12:08 PM (RD7QR)
Bob Dole didn't help, either. Like the guy, voted for him, but the GOP should have put up someone of Clinton's generation.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 08, 2010 12:08 PM (mR7mk)
As things are right now the Republicans would blow him out of the water unless we nominate another RINO and the base stays at home.
You rang?
Posted by: Mittens Romney at June 08, 2010 12:08 PM (pTyL2)
Right, and what you need to assume is that we'll have True Conservative Rand Paul-calibre candidates in each and every one of those races. That's why I'm going to inject myself into every single primary and drive bitter wedges between the camps of all GOP candidates, in the quest to make sure that the 95% Electable Conservatives aren't beaten by the 100% Real Conservatives. I am in charge of this movement and I'll explain my entire brilliantly unorthodox strategy... soon!
Moe, Neil, if any of these Teabaggers have a problem with it you know what to do.
Posted by: Erick Erickson at June 08, 2010 12:10 PM (GTiRE)
This is not 1996 and Obama does not "triangulate". He is full on commie and I don't think he intends on running for a second term
If the republicans win the house and senate, or come close to winning the senate, Obama will fire his entire political team, he will move closer to the mythical "center" for two years in hopes that winning in 2012 will allow him to freely go full left as he will be a lame duck and not have to worry about re-election. He will probably also bank on the fact that many Republicans that were able to win swing districts in 2010 will lose those seats giving him a shot at starting a second term with a slim republican majority.
Posted by: Ben at June 08, 2010 12:10 PM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Bob Dole, of course. at June 08, 2010 12:10 PM (RD7QR)
It seems likely, but it will be unprecedented to win the House but not the Senate.
However, a trend is a trend, until its not.
Posted by: damian at June 08, 2010 12:10 PM (4WbTI)
Interestingly, they fail to mention the party affiliations of who they are sampling. Could it be that they're oversampling dems by a 2-1 margin? Nah, that would be biased and the MFM isn't biased.
Posted by: taylork at June 08, 2010 12:11 PM (0Hn5w)
the 1994 election guaranteed Bill Clinton re-election in 1996.
Bob Dole didn't help, either. Like the guy, voted for him, but the GOP should have put up someone of Clinton's generation.
the only other option at the time was Powell if I recall. He was very popular. I think it was very unlikely the Republicans could have won that election regardless of the candidate they put forth. Same went with 2008. There was no republican that was going to beat the democrat that year.
Posted by: Ben at June 08, 2010 12:11 PM (wuv1c)
You rang?
Posted by: Mittens Romney at June 08, 2010 04:08 PM (pTyL2)
You went and left me, but I will be hanging around (your neck) for awhile.
Posted by: Bankrupt Mass Care at June 08, 2010 12:11 PM (NNrYJ)
How long the Fed can keep this up is an interesting question.
Posted by: damian at June 08, 2010 12:12 PM (4WbTI)
Posted by: someguy's ass at June 08, 2010 12:12 PM (xO+6C)
Posted by: USA at June 08, 2010 12:13 PM (YZISw)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 08, 2010 12:14 PM (pTyL2)
How long the Fed can keep this up is an interesting question.
Posted by: damian at June 08, 2010 04:12 PM (4WbTI)
Someone is trying to get it back over 10,000 before closing.
Posted by: Johnnyreb at June 08, 2010 12:14 PM (NNrYJ)
Posted by: asslogprof at June 08, 2010 12:14 PM (Mmw0q)
Posted by: Bob Dole, of course. at June 08, 2010 12:15 PM (RD7QR)
It's a 16 pt swing. Thanks Barry!
Posted by: damian at June 08, 2010 03:58 PM (4WbTI)
Barry maybe the best thing to happen to the Republican party in years
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 08, 2010 12:15 PM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Barack Obama at June 08, 2010 12:16 PM (0Hn5w)
2.) It will occur in a vacuum (it most assuredly will not); and
In the absence of armed revolution. Total economic collapse is the only feasible precursor to a socialist system.
I don't mean to go Zombie on everyone. If the collapse occurs, and it is every bit as epic as it is shaping up to be; Consider which side you want to deal with the resulting civil unrest. Choose wisely, it might be the last real choice you ever have.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 08, 2010 12:16 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 08, 2010 12:16 PM (pTyL2)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 08, 2010 12:17 PM (pTyL2)
It would be nice if somebody could convince Sarah to go for Begich's seat in AK. A term as senator under her belt would plump up her resume' and dispel some reservations about her.
i think she is done with elected office. Once you quite a governorship i think you are pretty much saying you are done.
Posted by: Ben at June 08, 2010 12:17 PM (wuv1c)
"Democrats are being self-destructive."
More popcorn, please.
That's what scares me. They're ready, welcoming, and almost rooting for the crash. It's like watching Evangelist Christians rooting for judgment day.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 08, 2010 12:19 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: eaglewingz08 at June 08, 2010 12:19 PM (dv8zz)
Posted by: TallDave at June 08, 2010 12:20 PM (/s1LA)
Now would be a good time to look at that sampling. Despite numerous polls this year showing the partisan identification gap between Democrats and Republicans narrowing to its smallest number in at least five years, the PostÂ’s sample shows 34% Democrats, 25% Republicans, and 38% independents among the registered voters in this survey of the general adult population.
Posted by: someguy's ass at June 08, 2010 12:20 PM (xO+6C)
Not they didn't. That's the WaPo/NBC poll I linked to a few posts ago.
Posted by: Barack Obama at June 08, 2010 12:20 PM (0Hn5w)
This is nothing but bad news for Democrats. They have been so focused on the "Tea Party" that their efforts to confront Republicans have gone unwashed. This also mean that electorate discontent will be vented at Democrats, in favor of Republicans, and not toward other 3rd parties.
Posted by: Neo at June 08, 2010 12:22 PM (tE8FB)
Posted by: USA at June 08, 2010 12:22 PM (YZISw)
Posted by: Truman North at June 08, 2010 12:22 PM (e8YaH)
and the Tea Party patriots have bupkiss, by design.
It could be worse. We could have Michael Steele on our side.
Posted by: Dang Straights at June 08, 2010 12:23 PM (fx8sm)
Neither did Clinton do welfare reform. He vetoed it twice and finally was forced to sign it the third time after a large enough vote passed it. The Republican congress did the reform despite Clinton.
The press gave him credit and somehow the myth has been promulgated. He deserves zero credit.
In any case, all that reform has largely been undone. It is all back in place now only "for the children".
Posted by: Vic at June 08, 2010 12:24 PM (6taRI)
Après moi, le déluge
(French for badass motherfucker!)
Posted by: King Barry the Asstastic at June 08, 2010 12:25 PM (Mmw0q)
RedState figures that that kind of a lead is good for a 60 seat pickup. Assuming all the things you need to assume.
Posted by: fishdicks, do you like them? at June 08, 2010 12:25 PM (uFokq)
You are correct sir. Thanks for the reminder.
Posted by: taylork at June 08, 2010 12:25 PM (0Hn5w)
Some of my favorite things to type.
Posted by: Intrepid at June 08, 2010 12:26 PM (92zkk)
I hope everyone who had a primary today voted. Turnout was really light at my polling place here in LA county late this morning based on the sparsity of signatures in the election book.
Posted by: Y-not at June 08, 2010 12:27 PM (Kn9r7)
What Vic said time ten million.
This is a good thing, though: It provides the jus ad bellum for countering the left's class warfare.
Posted by: MikeO at June 08, 2010 12:28 PM (lBmZl)
The Dems can make the Tea Party look bad because one, they own the MFM and that is how most people, even "likely" voters, get their news.
Two, there are almost as many competing Tea Party factions as there were once competing Mafia families. Confusion breeds a lack of clear message, which turns people off.
Three, the Tea Party IS out of step with most Americans. Why do I say that? Because most Americans are still fucking sheep who have not found a way to reject their from-birth public-school programming that Government Is Good, and that the two-party farce we have had since the Civil War is enshrined in the Constitution. It's not. It's enshrined in Federal election law, which is written by those two parties to make sure they get to pass the steering wheel and the crack pipe back and forth for all eternity, amen.
Posted by: SGT Dan at June 08, 2010 12:29 PM (GgXZc)
RedState figures that that kind of a lead is good for a 60 seat pickup. Assuming all the things you need to assume.
This assumes we wisely run highly electable moderates like the honorable Charlie Crist and Dede Scozzafava, which of course we will continue to do.
Posted by: The NRCC at June 08, 2010 12:30 PM (plsiE)
The Dems can make the Tea Party look bad because one, they own the MFM
They've been smearing for over a year now. How's that workin' out for 'em.?
Posted by: Dang Straights at June 08, 2010 12:30 PM (fx8sm)
This is the part that worries me.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 08, 2010 12:33 PM (mR7mk)
Posted by: Ass at June 08, 2010 12:34 PM (VXBR1)
Posted by: sloeride at June 08, 2010 12:36 PM (qxcKC)
Well, I never! We only went out on a couple of dates and never went further than 2nd base......
Posted by: Intrepid at June 08, 2010 12:37 PM (92zkk)
What we have to be careful of is these phony tea party groups who are started up for subversive reasons.
Posted by: Vic at June 08, 2010 12:40 PM (6taRI)
Posted by: Have Blue at June 08, 2010 12:41 PM (mV+es)
5 terms or bust, baby!
Posted by: Brian72 at June 08, 2010 12:45 PM (GNBk5)
#94, according to the article Ace posted, the smearing of the Tear party is working. Support in that poll is dropping. 50 percent unfavorable. Now I don't know where, who, or when they called, but it looks like some of the wind is out of the sails.
#95, it can worry you and it scares me shitless. America's been conditioned to vote for its own slavery. People like it that way. Freedom is too hard. What? You don't trust the government? What kind of weirdo are you?
Meanwhile the government's commie bus is about to drive off a financial cliff as they run out of other people's money. Me, I work for a defense contractor since I got medical'ed out, and every dollar my wife and I bring in comes from either my disability checks, her disability checks, or what I make from my employer who gets it from the DoD. So yeah, shrinking government is cutting my own throat, but I don't give a shit because it's not like she or I are healthy enough to live to a ripe old age. No kids either. I'm never home, pregnancy would probably kill her, and she's in no shape to be a single mom.
I feel bad about the worst part. The family name will die with me. WWII killed the rest of the family tree's branches. And the Islamics are outbreeding us anyway. I would have liked to have fathered my replacement in the Long War.
Posted by: SGT Dan at June 08, 2010 12:49 PM (GgXZc)
I don't see how there can be any parallel between 1996 and 2012. Clinton rode a hot economy to reelection.
Every last thing Obama and his looting crew are doing is beating the living shit out of the economy.
If the House flips, then there is a two-year window of opportunity to put big government on trial in wall-to-wall investigatory hearings. I'd format it as at least one jobs/economy issue hot on center stage the whole time with at least two corruption and malfeasance hearings on the side.
Since there will be no way to override a veto, spend the time on something useful and far reaching like breaking leftist assholes and ruining lives. Keep score by the number of bitches that off themselves rather than appear before the committees.
That's how the other side has been playing.
Posted by: MikeO at June 08, 2010 12:51 PM (lBmZl)
Posted by: Amos at June 08, 2010 12:52 PM (gDWoG)
Posted by: Clarence Coyote at June 08, 2010 12:56 PM (HtIec)
Yep. We have that writ large here in Virginia 41. Keith Fimian is the tea party-ish guy. Pat Herrity is the establishment guy. This has been one ugly primary.
Posted by: MikeO at June 08, 2010 12:56 PM (lBmZl)
This is exactly what I've had in mind for months now.
Regain the house and start uncovering stimulus corruption. Economic-related malfeasance. Put Obamacare repeal upto a vote, have Bamster veto it, have Republican presidential candidates hammer him with it.
Posted by: JB at June 08, 2010 01:03 PM (arkzF)
And have every Republican Senate candidate hammer his opponent with it in 2012, as well.
Posted by: MikeO at June 08, 2010 01:05 PM (lBmZl)
Posted by: Vic at June 08, 2010 01:06 PM (6taRI)
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